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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsweakers to get the real story. It's Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge on Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: Newstal said, be good afternoon, New Zealand. Great to have

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Speaker 2: you with me this afternoon. It is Wednesday, the eighteenth

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Speaker 2: of December. Coming up on the program an update from

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Speaker 2: Port Vila on Vanuar to Chris Bishop on the show

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Speaker 2: after five, What the Green Party wants with your cat?

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Speaker 2: Barry Soper on the Easter training laws that just never

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Speaker 2: seem to pass. Plus, if you're an investor, what is

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Speaker 2: a Santa Bounce?

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge?

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Speaker 2: When you say fast track, how fast do you actually mean?

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Speaker 2: That question is absolutely crucial when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: fortunes of this country, which, let's face it could do

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Speaker 2: with a bit of a polish, a bit of a

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Speaker 2: spit and shine. As soon as the Fast Track Bill

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Speaker 2: passed its third reading in the House yesterday, the opposition

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Speaker 2: benches were shouting and screaming and making threats to the

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty nine projects and envy that were

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Speaker 2: listed on the bill. If we're to have any hope

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Speaker 2: of getting richer as a country, if we're to have

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Speaker 2: any hope of securing energy in this country. This bill

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Speaker 2: has to be the closest thing to practical lawmaking aimed

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Speaker 2: at doing just that that our Parliament has seen it

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Speaker 2: in a very long time. You have to agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Just last week we brought you news from one of

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Speaker 2: the projects. It was the Fuddy ketto Pong of mine.

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Speaker 2: This is in why he minimum four billion bucks worth

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Speaker 2: the ground. It's an underground, mind, not an open pit.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred extra jobs on top of the four hundred

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Speaker 2: that are already there. These guys have cash they want

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Speaker 2: to invest, and like many others, they get wrapped up

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Speaker 2: in consents and red tape and stuff doesn't happen, and

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Speaker 2: we all get poorer in the process. We get poorer.

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Speaker 2: You and I. Fast forward to yesterday afternoon in the House,

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Speaker 2: the opposition MP's were threatening to revoke any consents that

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Speaker 2: are granted under this legislation if they're re elected to government,

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Speaker 2: and they were warning potential investors to take that threat

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Speaker 2: seriously before investigating projects to fund in New Zealand. Now,

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Speaker 2: not every project is going to be excellent for the

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Speaker 2: environment granted, and not every project should get the go ahead,

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Speaker 2: but there is a process. It is independent ministers no

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Speaker 2: longer have final say and how embarrassing, honestly, how embarrassing

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Speaker 2: as a country that's just been told it'll be in

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Speaker 2: the red till the twenty thirties, whose debt to GDP

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Speaker 2: and businesses we're basically closed. Sorry, So to the government,

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Speaker 2: I say, how fast is your fast track? Because if

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Speaker 2: shovels aren't in the ground by the time you leave office,

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Speaker 2: they may well never be bread rich. Nine minutes after

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Speaker 2: four news talks, they'd been nine two ninety two is

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Sport Esports n Z they're not happy. They

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Speaker 2: say it's short sighted that they've been left out of

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Speaker 2: a funding boost from High Performance Sport. New Zealand. High

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Speaker 2: Performance Sport just announced it's investing around one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty million dollars for thirty six national sporting organizations over

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Speaker 2: the next four years. Some of the sports included rowing.

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Speaker 2: You name them, you'll know them, cycling, speed climbing, tennis,

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Speaker 2: but electronic sports. Nah president of the New Zealand est

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Speaker 2: Sports Federation. It's Connor English's with me this afternoon, Connor Goodey,

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Speaker 2: how are you good? Thank you? What did they say

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Speaker 2: to you exactly when they rejected you?

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Speaker 4: They just said that on this occasion, your investment request

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Speaker 4: has been unsuccessful when assessed against the criteria.

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Speaker 2: What's the criteria?

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, it's on your website.

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Speaker 2: Well hang on, let me ask you. That's a different question.

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Speaker 2: Is one of the criteria that it has to be

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Speaker 4: Well, the sports is a sport and we know this

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Speaker 4: Ryan because the New Zeland, sorry, the International Olympic Committee

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Speaker 4: You'll have the Summer Olympics, the Winter Olympics, and then

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Speaker 4: they do. And I think it's recognized globally that esport

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Speaker 2: And there was a slightly a slightly tang and check question,

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Speaker 2: If you're the sporting high performance sporting body, wouldn't you

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Speaker 2: rather isn't it better to fund sport, the actual sport,

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Speaker 5: Version well, high Performance Sport New Zealand have actually provided

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Speaker 5: He's been to a lot of international tournaments. But I

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Speaker 5: It's digital competition that we're talking about, and that can

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Speaker 5: you have digital manifestations of existing traditional sports like say

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Speaker 2: So you can actually get a sweat on doing sport.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think the thing that wakes a

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Speaker 2: you know, a mountain bike. If you're doing mountain bike.

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Speaker 4: Well it could be. I mean, an esport you can

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Speaker 2: Why is it more inclusive than actual sport?

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Speaker 4: Ah, Because it doesn't matter what your shape or sizes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't I mean, shouldn't sport be about athleticism? You know,

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Speaker 4: Well? You know, I think there's all SATs and sizes

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. And the other thing is we're

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Speaker 2: we really want to be encouraging people to be you know,

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Speaker 4: I've been too a few international events where we've had

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Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, so are you going to follow up

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Speaker 2: with them? Any hope still that you holding out hope

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Speaker 4: Well, it's only disappointing in that this is a four

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Speaker 4: but we do need funding from government and if high

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Speaker 4: So if New Zealand as a country and as a

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Speaker 4: OIGN should just say that and then we can skin

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time, Connor English, President of

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand Esports Federation. We'd love to hear your

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Speaker 2: views this afternoon, nine two ninety two is the numbers text?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they are deserving of a bit of dosh?

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Speaker 2: We could ask Darcy too here and.

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Speaker 1: Next who will take the White House results and analysis

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, it is eighteen minutes after four News Talk said,

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Speaker 2: b We've just spoken to Esports New Zealand. They have

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Speaker 2: missed out on funding from high Performance Sport in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Loads of feedback on that. By definition, they.

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Speaker 7: Let me guess, it's not a sport.

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Speaker 2: Not a sport, fatman beer, Darcy's here for sports something. Well,

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Speaker 2: actually no, here is the defense our darts. A sport

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Speaker 2: is stand up pistol shooting a sport. Neither requires physical prowess.

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Speaker 7: There's a theory that says if you don't have to

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well they don't even need to wear shoes,

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Speaker 7: Well, they do whatever they want, so they can do it. Look,

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Speaker 7: the thing is it's a growth area and entertainment, sportainment

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Speaker 3: It's the best way.

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Speaker 7: I remember when I was younger going to Wizards, which

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Speaker 7: is a people may remember that from way back in eighties.

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Speaker 7: It was a video game parlor in christ Church. It's

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Speaker 7: you know, Dad, can I have some money because I

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Speaker 7: being a.

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Speaker 2: Really good soul, missing out though on something by not

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Speaker 7: Now, you know the problem with the funding model that

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Speaker 7: we you successful last time. If you were, will give

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Speaker 7: you more money you can do it again. But if

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Speaker 7: pinnacle event, we're going to take your money off you

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Speaker 7: because you weren't good enough. So it's an interesting whip

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Speaker 7: And there's the argument whether it's a sport or not,

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Speaker 7: and that goes on and on because apparently chess is

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Speaker 2: No, it's so well, they say it moving your finger.

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Speaker 2: So who's missed out? Then? Based on the Paris.

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Speaker 7: Hockey hockey have been smashed. They've lost one point four

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Speaker 2: He with everything brilliant.

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Speaker 7: You can shoot him and he just look at you and.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 1: Heather duplessy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand let's get

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Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying your Wednesday afternoon, New Zealand. It's

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Speaker 2: great to have your company across the country. We are

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on News Talks EDB Drive.

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Speaker 2: We're starting in the US, where Luigi Mangioni has officially

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Speaker 2: been charged with murder of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

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Speaker 10: Defendant is charged with one count of murder in the

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Speaker 2: More on that in the Moment with a UIs correspondent

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Speaker 2: Dan Mitchison, who's standing by to the war in Ukraine

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Speaker 2: In Australia, broadcaster Alan Jones's addressed as in decent assault charges,

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Speaker 12: I am certainly not guilty and I'll be presenting my

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Speaker 2: As you heard this morning.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Three away from five. Dan Mitchison's a US correspondent, Luigi

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Speaker 2: Manngione charged with an act of terrorism in the United

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Speaker 14: Interesting that they've charged him underneath this, and I think

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Speaker 2: That is shocking, Dan, because and I was pleased to

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Speaker 14: to be true, and you get through, and you get through,

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Speaker 14: and by the time you get to the end, you

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Speaker 14: find a well, wait a minute, I'm paying a couple

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Speaker 14: of one hundred dollars more than I was told I

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Speaker 14: was going to be and these can add up to hundreds,

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Speaker 14: if not thousands of dollars for a family vacation. So

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Speaker 14: you think you're getting a bargain, you really aren't. This

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Speaker 14: is going to change and it could save nine fifty

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Speaker 14: sixty million hours per year for people who are searching

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Speaker 14: online for a great deal, not to mention billions of

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Speaker 14: dollars over the next decade in savings for people. So

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Speaker 14: come on over and take advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds pretty good, Dan, Dan mentions and now US correspondent,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for your time. Eight and a wife

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Speaker 2: from five. I'm sorry. Can we just just take a

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Speaker 2: second to reflect on that forty one percent of young

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Speaker 2: Americans think that it's okay or somewhat okay that a

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Speaker 2: young guy, point blank, first thing in the morning on

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Speaker 2: a busy street in New York shoots a dude for

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Speaker 2: running a company. Really, I can understand people getting upset,

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Speaker 2: getting angry. If you know you're someone sexually abuses one

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Speaker 2: of your family members or kills one of your family members,

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Speaker 2: I can understand why you would think it's justified to

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Speaker 2: shoot them or to take physical action against them. I

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Speaker 2: can understand that. But just for running a company, even

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Speaker 2: if that company did something bad, I mean, you have

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Speaker 2: to start worrying if this is the mindset you don't.

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Speaker 2: You have to start worrying about people who are you know,

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Speaker 2: who really are obsessed with climate change? What would they

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Speaker 2: think is justifiable to the CEO of BP? You know

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Speaker 2: where does this end? Seventeen to five politics credit, check

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Speaker 2: your customers and get payments certainty, Just go on quarter

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Speaker 2: just five News Talk ZIB. The senior political correspondent, Barry

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Speaker 2: Soper is in Wellington with us today. Hey Barry, good afternoon,

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Speaker 2: Right Ken, we can touch on the inconsistencies. Can we

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Speaker 2: over the conscience vote on Easter trading in Sunday advertising?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's fascinating, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: That You've got to remember they'll keep Holly the Sabbath

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Speaker 15: Because the first reading of the advertising at the Weekends

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Speaker 15: bill that was successful ninety four to twenty nine. But

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Speaker 15: it seems the cruc affexion and the rise of Jesus.

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Speaker 15: A couple of days later at Easter trading, we people

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Speaker 15: have broken the law essentially to trade.

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Speaker 3: Easter trading has been defeated again seventy.

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Speaker 15: Four votes to forty nine, So the retailers won't be

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Speaker 15: able to trade at Easter weekend.

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Speaker 3: But it's incredible, isn't it. At a time Ryan, when

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Speaker 3: you think, if.

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Speaker 15: Ever the retailer we're facing it tough at the moment

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Speaker 15: that the MPs would have thought, well, let's give them

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Speaker 15: a break.

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Speaker 2: Which MP's are we talking about? I mean, who was

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Speaker 2: largely in four and four?

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Speaker 15: And again, well, if you look at the Easter trading

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Speaker 15: seventy four we're against in forty nine four, I would

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Speaker 15: imagine the whole of the National Party voted for. But

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Speaker 15: you know they don't do the breakdowns of who voted what, and.

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Speaker 3: So you know it's a funny. It's a conscience vote.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird in mansistent, Yeah, it is Lake Alice,

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Speaker 2: a torture survivor's art to get compensation.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know a dreadful period in our history

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Speaker 15: that was they can either choose an expedited payment, a

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Speaker 15: quick payment for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, or

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Speaker 15: they can lodge acclaim and that'll be viewed by an

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Speaker 15: independent arbiter and they'll make a determination on their mouth. Now,

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Speaker 15: these were many of them with kids and they were

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Speaker 15: getting shock treatment, which was absolutely shocking. They in fact

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Speaker 15: have got until April next year. Those are the ones

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Speaker 15: that want the expedited payment, or they can delay until

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Speaker 15: September next year if they want to negotiate a payment. Well,

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Speaker 15: payments will be all done by the end of next year.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 15: The Minister Erica Stanford said all the organs of state

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Speaker 15: were notified about the torture of children, but it seems

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Speaker 15: no one was listening.

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Speaker 16: Dozens more complaints and concerns were made to every government

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Speaker 16: department that had some connection or responsibility for lake Alis.

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Speaker 16: Complaints were made to police officers, social workers, heads of

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Speaker 16: departments of social welfare, education and health, the Medical Council,

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Speaker 16: Yombusman district inspectors, doctors and nurses, and none was sufficiently

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Speaker 16: acted on. The Crown utterly failed survivors. When we owed

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Speaker 16: the majority of care protection, you'd have.

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Speaker 3: To say that was absolutely the case.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, no arguing with that. The final clash of

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Speaker 2: the leaders in the House for the year.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the Prime Minister and the leader of the Opposition.

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Speaker 15: Given the clash, they'll no doubt certainly be pleased see

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Speaker 15: the last of each other. As Parliament draws to a

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Speaker 15: close for the year, they're having the adjournment debate. At

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Speaker 15: the moment Chris Luckson has just been on his feet

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Speaker 15: and Chris Hopkins followed him, but earlier on during question time.

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Speaker 15: Here they are, with Chris Luckson defending the record of

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Speaker 15: his Finance minister, Nichola Willis.

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Speaker 17: Nichola Willis is going to go down as the best

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Speaker 17: finance minister as country's ever seen.

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Speaker 2: He goes, by god, what a mess she.

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Speaker 17: Has picked up, and she is cleaning house and she's

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Speaker 17: getting the job done, and she has delivered a value

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Speaker 17: for money, reliable, sensible, faery solution of rail, combatible fairies,

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Speaker 17: and our great Minister of Rail's got a limited window

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Speaker 17: to try and improve upon it.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise we're going.

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Speaker 17: To get new fairies twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Don't you worry about it?

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Speaker 18: So why does he think he the most unpopular prime

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Speaker 18: minister in New Zealand's history and what does he think

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Speaker 18: Nichola Willis is more likely to replace next year the

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Speaker 18: inter Island fairies or have his Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is a bit ranch, isn't it? Isn't

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Speaker 2: that a bit ranch?

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Speaker 17: How are the conversations with David Parker and Kieren McNulty

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Speaker 17: working out sun They're getting olf very well, haven't they?

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Speaker 2: Goodness? Okay, all right? And just finally Shane Jones while

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Speaker 2: he's having a bit of fun too, well.

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Speaker 3: Look he was at his lyrical best.

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Speaker 15: I've got to say as he was lauding the success

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Speaker 15: of his regional summits, he's been holding up and down

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Speaker 15: the country in his mind. Jones told Parliament he hasn't

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Speaker 15: a sceric of doubt about how well they were.

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Speaker 19: Received, unheralded popularity. The summits have been an opportunity to

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Speaker 19: meet and greet people. Occasionally there have been one of

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Speaker 19: three protesters as I've sought to engage garden variety Kiwis.

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Speaker 19: But the days of those mung being meddlers are over,

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Speaker 19: without a doubt. Taranaki will enjoy a boost with offshore

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Speaker 19: mining opportunities. Sadly, no, that's enough from the Kumua munches.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to have any of that today.

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Speaker 19: And International Gas and Oil Explorer announced at six thirty

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Speaker 19: this morning they're no longer withdrawing from New Zealand and

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Speaker 19: on your behalf New Zealand. I claim a little credit

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Speaker 19: for that.

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Speaker 15: God to say that's a great way to go out,

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Speaker 15: isn't it, Because you know, he is probably I think

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Speaker 15: one of the most humorous and able speakers in the

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Speaker 15: place at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That, well, they're a bit short on those, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: They in the past week.

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Speaker 2: We had great.

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Speaker 15: Orators in the old days and they're not quite the

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Speaker 15: same today.

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Speaker 3: So he's the pick of the budge at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I think long may he rain, Uncle Shane, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. Barry Soper out of Parliament, nine away from

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Speaker 2: five news talks, be.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions, the newspeakers, the mic Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: This is worse than expected.

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Speaker 11: We're not going to be getting to surplus anytime this decade.

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Speaker 11: Only two things that are going up as debt and

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Speaker 11: interest repayments.

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Speaker 2: Finance Minister Nicholaullss is with us.

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Speaker 10: Hey.

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Speaker 11: The other thing that's going up is growth.

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Speaker 3: Next year. So that's a.

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Speaker 11: Positive zero point five percent. Yeah, and then it recovers

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Speaker 11: beyond that. But after several years bouncing.

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Speaker 20: Along the bottom and recessionary conditions, that period of sustained

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Speaker 20: growth will feel a lot better.

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Speaker 2: I take your point.

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Speaker 21: But we are still going backwards to capita next year,

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Speaker 21: aren't we.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm literally going to be getting poorer.

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Speaker 13: Look, there's no sugarcoating.

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Speaker 22: It's what the Treasury presented was a tough set of

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Speaker 22: books that represent significant economic challenges for New Zealand. Now

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Speaker 22: the government is going to do the right things.

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Speaker 1: Hey, the Duplessy on the mic Hosking Breakfast back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at six am with the Jaguar f Base on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: EDB six to five on News Talks dB oh nearly

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Speaker 2: did that. Now, Wellington City Council absolutely positively useless. So

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Speaker 2: they get finally they get to their long term plan

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Speaker 2: yesterday and they get it done and they get it

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Speaker 2: signed off, and you think they'd be like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to the pub for a drink and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to just get myself out of the media spotlight

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Speaker 2: for Christmas. No, after all of that, the councilor terry

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Speaker 2: O'Neill called Councilor Ray Chung a racist.

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Speaker 20: The councilors that vote against the submission should be ashamed.

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Speaker 20: This is giving into racist rhetoric and it's for the

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Speaker 20: sake of a cheap boat. It is sinister to pretend

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Speaker 20: that your opposition to the submission is anything other than racist.

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Speaker 2: So this was all over the submission on the Treaty

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Speaker 2: Principal's bill. Terry O'Neill's like a pakiha. Lady Ray Chung

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Speaker 2: is of Chinese descent. I believe she's calling him racist

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't want not because he doesn't support the bill,

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Speaker 2: but because he doesn't want the council to put a

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Speaker 2: submission in on a bill that's going nowhere anyway. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: Councilor Ray Chung is now laying a Code of conduct

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Speaker 2: complaint against Terry O'Neill for this, saying she shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: allowed to call him racist. This is serious, Terry. She's

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Speaker 2: now had a chat with Tory and stands by her comments.

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Speaker 2: She's now as in Tory is now reached out to

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Speaker 2: Ray for a one on one and as yet to

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Speaker 2: hear back. Good luck everybody. Four minutes away from five

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Speaker 2: on news talks, there'd be lots of your texts coming

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Speaker 2: in on ester trading. Who would have thought to be

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Speaker 2: honest with you. It's one of those issues I just

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Speaker 2: never really think about because it happens once a year

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't have a huge effect on me. It's

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Speaker 2: one effing day, says John. For goodness sakes, you can

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Speaker 2: do without shopping. Our parliamentarians have just conscience voted to

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Speaker 2: keep the ester trading restrictions in place for those who

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Speaker 2: are just joining us. Barry Soper was life from Parliament.

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Speaker 2: After five, we're going to the fast Track Bill. How

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Speaker 2: fast is the fast Track Bill? Is it fast enough

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Speaker 2: to beat an opposition which has held bent on reversing

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Speaker 2: anything the government gets through in this term and potentially

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Speaker 2: reversing any permits for projects that are passed as well.

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Speaker 2: All of that to the man in charge, Christ Bishop.

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Speaker 23: Afternoons, the only drive show you can trust to ask

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Speaker 23: the questions.

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Speaker 1: Get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: News Talk z B seven. After five we're two for

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Speaker 2: the fast Track The hotly debated fast Track Builder became

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Speaker 2: law last night, not before some protesters had their say

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Speaker 2: one final time.

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Speaker 8: Leave the house. Please, no, don't do that, guys, pull that,

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Speaker 8: don't interfere.

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Speaker 2: No, they certainly got told, didn't they. One hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty nine projects are named in the bill supposed to

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Speaker 2: get the big infrastructure stuff off and running, housing, energy

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Speaker 2: projects all off the ground faster. Chris Bishop is the

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Speaker 2: Minister for Infrastructure. Hello minister hello, thanks for being on

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Speaker 2: the program. What happens now the law's passed? How quickly

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Speaker 2: can a project happen?

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Speaker 6: So the law has been passed and the Government General

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Speaker 6: wills fin it and then it will be officially law

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Speaker 6: and people will be able to apply on the seventh

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Speaker 6: of Febrary next year, and a whole lot of work

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Speaker 6: behind the scene. We're standing up the you know, we've

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Speaker 6: got a point of panel convened, a point of the

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Speaker 6: expert panels, if we've got to get the sort of

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Speaker 6: portal live and all the kind of you administrative stuff

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Speaker 6: that you'd expect. But seventh of February is the key.

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Speaker 2: Date, so that's when you can apply. How long do

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Speaker 2: you think applications will take?

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Speaker 6: Well, it will depend a little bit. Some are going

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Speaker 6: to be more complicated than others. But obviously we've got

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Speaker 6: that initial list of the one hundred and forty nine

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Speaker 6: projects that are sort of pre approved as meeting the

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Speaker 6: test of national and regional significance, so they'll be the

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Speaker 6: kind of fist cabs off the rank if you if

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Speaker 6: you want to put it like that, and then I'm

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Speaker 6: almost certain that many will apply straight away. We've got

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Speaker 6: to get the expert panel set up as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 6: so we're doing that work over the next six to

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Speaker 6: eight weeks, and then you know, they'll be sit up

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Speaker 6: and they'll be going off to the panel. So I

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Speaker 6: would expect you will see projects consented next year definitely.

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Speaker 2: Will you be okay, that's good? And then presumably they

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Speaker 2: will be some of them will be going home wanting

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Speaker 2: to get shove and ground or an ocean whatever it

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Speaker 2: might be.

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Speaker 6: Straightway, Yes, I mean, the whole point of the fast

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Speaker 6: track law is that it's a one stop shop. So

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Speaker 6: you're dealing with resource consents, Wildlife Act conservation. You know,

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Speaker 6: again it will depend on the project, but you know

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Speaker 6: all of the things you need to do so that

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Speaker 6: you can turn the first side and get on with things.

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Speaker 6: Fundings are separate issue. You know, there will be projects

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Speaker 6: that will get consented that that aren't economic to build

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Speaker 6: quite yet, or don't have funding attached, both from the

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Speaker 6: public and the private sector. But you know, if there's

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Speaker 6: private capital available and the projects are consented through the

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Speaker 6: fast Track, then you know they can get on with it.

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Speaker 6: And that's exactly what this country needs. We need people

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Speaker 6: putting up money, getting on with the job and getting

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Speaker 6: things built in this country.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. But would you be

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Speaker 2: surprised if any who are on the list one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty nine that you talk about don't get approval.

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Speaker 6: Well, we've deliberately left it open for the expert panels

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Speaker 6: to decline projects in some circumstances where the adverse effects

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Speaker 6: on the environment outweigh the significance of the project. And

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Speaker 6: so you might remember when we first started talking about

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Speaker 6: fast Track, it was going to be the minister or

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Speaker 6: minister's plural the twika, you know, me and Shane and

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Speaker 6: sim we were going to have the ability to essentially

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Speaker 6: grant the consents ourselves. We changed that because, well, for

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Speaker 6: a variety of reasons, but we heard the sort of

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Speaker 6: public feedback around that, and so the Panels have the

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Speaker 6: ability to grant the final yay or nay, so you

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Speaker 6: know it will be ultimately over to the panels. But

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Speaker 6: we've sent a very clear message Parliament has and the

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Speaker 6: government has that we want to get on with the

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Speaker 6: job of making it easy to build infrastructure, renewable energy, minds,

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Speaker 6: quarries and all the things that this country needs to

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Speaker 6: get ahead.

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Speaker 2: Opposition says if they are put back in charge, they'll

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Speaker 2: revoke consents. They are even warning those who are investing

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Speaker 2: in these projects look out, because you know we'll becoming

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Speaker 2: and making life hard for you. Do you think that

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Speaker 2: would put Bat's call some trepation in the minds of

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Speaker 2: those who are wanting to invest.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Married Party said that, but I don't think

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Speaker 6: anyone takes them particularly seriously. I mean they're just a

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Speaker 6: joke of a political party that that sort of stuff

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Speaker 6: would make New Zealand into a banana republic. I mean,

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Speaker 6: no one should take.

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Speaker 2: Well, we did the oil, and we did the oiland

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Speaker 2: was no warning.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I don't think anyone should take anything. The

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Speaker 6: Married Party says, seriously, this is a really important bill

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Speaker 6: and act actually now that will help New Zealand get ahead,

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Speaker 6: and any sort of suggestion from the opposition that projects

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Speaker 6: that are consented might have their their projects retrospectively reversed

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Speaker 6: or anything like that, you know, that would that would

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Speaker 6: see in New Zealand even further down down the past

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Speaker 6: the civil status where we were heading under.

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Speaker 2: The last government. It's technically possible, though, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: a new government came in and they wanted to do that,

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Speaker 2: they could do that. What you're saying is that that

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Speaker 2: would just sully our reputation to the point beyond beyond

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Speaker 2: which it's a joke.

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Speaker 6: Well, Parliament and New Zealand a sovereign you know, Parliament,

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Speaker 6: Supreme Parliament can do you know, almost anything in this country.

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Speaker 6: But there are institutional norms and constitutional conventions that prevent

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Speaker 6: parliaments doing things like that. So I would hope that

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Speaker 6: saner minds on the opposition ventures prevail and no want

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Speaker 6: to take any as any attention to the wild ramblings

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Speaker 6: of a favored political party in the married party. No

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Speaker 6: ultimately Parliament of sovereign, but I think saner minds would prevail.

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Speaker 2: All right, minister, thank you for that. That's christ Biship,

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Speaker 2: Infrastructure Minister twelve after five Ryan Bridge. The bill's seeking

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Speaker 2: to remove Good Friday and Easter Sundays restricted trading days

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Speaker 2: has been voted down. Politicians voted against at seventy four

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Speaker 2: to forty nine, and the conscience vote Carolyn Young Retail

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Speaker 2: and Z Good Evening, Go TOV on the.

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Speaker 4: Show, Carolyn Callen, nice to be here.

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Speaker 2: You disappointed with that?

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Speaker 24: We are really because you know it's a good opportunity.

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Speaker 24: It was a good opportunity for the trading shop trading

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Speaker 24: hours to be aligned with other places around the world.

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Speaker 24: And with online trading, you can buy anything. People will

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Speaker 24: be online on Christmas Day, purchasing, making purchases ahead of

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Speaker 24: Boxing Day, stores on on the on Boxing Day, and

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Speaker 24: there's nothing to stop someone trading online. So why would

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Speaker 24: not be sensible for someone for a store to be

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Speaker 24: able to be open should they want to be open

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Speaker 24: on Easter Friday or the Friday Easter Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the staff. It's the staff, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's giving everybody a day off together as one. I mean,

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Speaker 2: sure people can shop online, but you don't have to

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Speaker 2: man a physical store.

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Speaker 24: Well, I think the thing about that is that we're

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Speaker 24: not all the same and so the fact that people

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Speaker 24: think that everybody wants to have the day off with

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Speaker 24: their family on that day, some people might rather work

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Speaker 24: and get the penal rates and then be able to

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Speaker 24: take the day and lose that they get as an

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Speaker 24: alternate public holiday that they could go to their son

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Speaker 24: or daughter's school sports day or see their play or

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Speaker 24: something like that which they couldn't do any other time.

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Speaker 24: Fair enough, sometimes that can give you greater flexibility.

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Speaker 2: Are you giving up on this?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Is as dead in the water?

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Speaker 24: Look, I think it'll come background again, Pops is here

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Speaker 24: up every time. We'll be looking to make it.

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Speaker 2: Just like it'll be back next year. Hey, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about this this ComCom thing. So the comments question has

799
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Speaker 2: come out that got a draft proposal for reducing Visa

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Speaker 2: and master Card payment fees that we pay, which the

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Speaker 2: well the retailers pay and then we pay. And now

802
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Speaker 2: MasterCard has released a statement suggesting that some retailers pass

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Speaker 2: on more fees than they are actually charged.

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Speaker 24: Do they look, it's a complicated space. What we can

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Speaker 24: say in somewhat, I guess is a short answer, but

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Speaker 24: the long answer is that the merchant service fee, which

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Speaker 24: is the total fee that retailers pay. Retailers and hospitality

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Speaker 24: businesses pay to accept transactions via those rails. There's up

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Speaker 24: to six providers in there that are all taking a

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Speaker 24: piece of the pie. For a retailer, it's a really

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Speaker 24: complex space to really understand what your total fees are

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Speaker 24: for problems. One is that when you pay on the terminal,

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Speaker 24: you go there and you pay a lot of people

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Speaker 24: think about it as being the f pos terminal, but

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Speaker 24: it's a terminal. Those terminals don't have the ability to

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Speaker 24: put differential fees on them, so you should. What we

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Speaker 24: want the terminal providers, and what we wrote to the

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Speaker 24: Commics Commission about was actually that the terminal food providers

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Speaker 24: need to be able to pay differential fees for a

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Speaker 24: debit transaction or a credit transaction. That would go some

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Speaker 24: way to alleviating that, I think also simplifying the system

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Speaker 24: so that everybody understands what the total fees are. The

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Speaker 24: draft that's come back for the Commerce Commission goes some

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Speaker 24: way to some of the things that we were looking for,

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Speaker 24: which is lower fees. But actually we our submission was

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Speaker 24: ready about we think that if the Commis Commission wants

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Speaker 24: the fees to be at one percential lower, which is

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Speaker 24: what they stated in their draft documentation for consultation. They

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Speaker 24: should regulate the total fee because what we know that

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Speaker 24: interchange is only one part of the fee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't done and in short, can you give

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Speaker 2: me just a really short yet or no here after

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Speaker 2: this draft proposal has been released, are consumers going to

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Speaker 2: get cheaper fees at the terminal?

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Speaker 24: Well, retailers will will eventually get cheaper fees and consumers

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Speaker 24: will as well because the comments Commission will be regulate so.

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Speaker 2: Long, so long as they're passed on. Carolyn, that's the key,

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Speaker 2: Carolyn Young, retail and Z sixteen after five. We all

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Speaker 2: want to be the best, don't we, But not all

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Speaker 2: You know this myth that you can claim insurance. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, somebody has text in about what happened

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Speaker 2: at the Northern Club in Auckland, and yes we are

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Speaker 2: going to talk about that, and yes we will do

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Speaker 2: it soon right now. Though, you know that myth that

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Speaker 2: you can't claim insurance if you crash your car while

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Speaker 2: wearing jandles. Sometimes your mum would say, hey, you can't

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Speaker 2: wear chandles. Well, according to the Insurance and Financial Services

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Speaker 2: on Bodsman, it's all nonsense. Apparently insurers will decline your

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Speaker 2: claim for other reasons, but not just because you're wearing Jandles.

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Speaker 2: Karen Stevens is the Insurance and Financial Services on boardsman Karen. Hello,

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Speaker 2: hello Ryan, how are you very well? Thank you, so

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Speaker 2: we can cross this one off the list. It's a myth.

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Speaker 25: It is a myth. And the thing is that most

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Speaker 25: people wear jendles when they drive. And the only thing

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874
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Speaker 25: might hit something or that the particular problem with the

875
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 25: type of shoe you're wearing. Then of course you don't

876
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 25: do that because that's a risk that you don't take.

877
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 25: But otherwise, if you think that you've done many times

878
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 25: and there's never been a problem, then it should be okay.

879
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 25: What insurers are worried about are the risks that you

880
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 25: know about already that you take anyway, because those are

881
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 25: never going to be covered.

882
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: No. But if you've got a warrn a fitness so

883
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: recently issued warrn of fitness and your tires are there's

884
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: a bit of tread lost on them, they a bit baled.

885
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: You might not know that, but they can still decline

886
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: you on that. Is that right?

887
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 24: Yeah?

888
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 25: And I think that the word you use there is

889
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 25: an important one recently issued whaff because in most cases

890
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 25: that we've seen through the ifso scheme, it's usually a

891
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 25: WAFT has been issued, you know, sort of nine months earlier,

892
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 25: and somebody's done probably hundreds of kilometers since that time.

893
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 25: They know that their tires were sort of a bit

894
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 25: borderline when they got the WHAFF, and they haven't done

895
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 25: anything to get new tires in the meantime. That's that's

896
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 25: the sort of thing that you know that there's a

897
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 25: bit of a risk there and you don't do anything

898
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 25: about it, And that's what an insurer is not prepared

899
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 25: to pay for.

900
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: Right if you are so. Lots of people are going

901
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: on there summer roadies in the next couple of weeks,

902
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: next couple of days. Even if you've got your war

903
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: on a fitness you know, you've recently serviced, you've got

904
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: no other reasons to think there's something wrong with your car.

905
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: Do you have to or should you go and get

906
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: it checked anyway by a mechanic, because I mean, it

907
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: is expensive to get it done and they are busy

908
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: at this time of year.

909
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 25: Not if there is no thing to alert you to

910
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 25: the fact that there's a problem. I think that's probably

911
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 25: going above and beyond. Most people will check their tires

912
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 25: before they go away and make sure that you know

913
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 25: everything is fine. If you look at your tires and

914
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 25: you think, oh, this one's looking a bit bored, or

915
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 25: oh there's a bit of a problem with this one,

916
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 25: then that's when you should do something, not think, oh,

917
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 25: she'll be right and leave it. It's the sort of

918
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 25: thing that you think about before you go. It's not

919
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 25: taking the risk that most of us wouldn't take in

920
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 25: that particular circumstance. And that's what insurers don't want you

921
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 25: to do. You know, most of the time, you know,

922
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 25: we can be a little bit careless, we can be

923
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 25: a little bit negligent, But if you take it that

924
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 25: step further and then you're positively reckless about oh, well,

925
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 25: look I don't care. I know that you know my

926
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 25: tires are a bit dodgy, or I've got a problem

927
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 25: with this, or you know, I'm leaving the house, but

928
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 25: I've left a window open to the cat.

929
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 2: It's not so you most you're in different territory than Karen.

930
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Karen Stevens, Insurance and Financial Services

931
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: on Bardsman. On your road trip before you take off

932
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: this summer, make sure you've got no worries. Twenty four

933
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: after five News Talk said, be.

934
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on

935
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Heather Duper c Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

936
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: get connected at news Talk as sid BE.

937
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: Twenty six after five News Talk said be let's be

938
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: honest everybody, the news and the lead up to Christmas

939
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: has been a bit depressing. It's been a little bit gloomy,

940
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: a bit ho hum. Surplus is pushed out, costs have

941
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: blown out, rates are going up, and yesterday confirmation our

942
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: GDP per person will go backwards again next year. We've

943
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: all been running with clenched cheeks towards the end of

944
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: the year, hoping and praying for a bit of growth

945
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, like you know, almost like you

946
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: know when you're holding a bit of gas after dinner,

947
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 2: trying to get to the car to let it out,

948
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: say that no one hears you. That's what we've been

949
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: doing getting to the end of this year, just hoping

950
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: against all hope that we will have some growth next year,

951
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: and then bang, the equivalent of a fiscal punch in

952
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: the face right on Christmas Eve, boom, no growth. In fact,

953
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: we're going to go backwards per person. It's disappointing, but

954
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: it's also not the end of the world. And that's

955
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: my message this afternoon. When you look at the rest

956
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: of the world, we have plenty to be grateful for.

957
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: At least we're not France. Their debts so bad they

958
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: can't even pass a budget without collapsing their entire government.

959
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: They are literally back to political square one, the same

960
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: place they were when we watched the Olympians get Giardia

961
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: in the Seine during the Olympics in July. No government,

962
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: no prime minister and no budget. So there we go.

963
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: Number one, we're not France, we're doing well. Number two,

964
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: we're not Germany. They also can't sort a budget without

965
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: collapsing a three way coalition. They're back to the polls

966
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: in January. Number three, see what are you feeling better already?

967
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: Number three Britain has care Starmer. We're not them. Australia

968
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: has Albanezi. We're not them. And four Yes, technically negative

969
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: real growth makes us losers, but at least we're not

970
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: losers like the Democrats and Kamala Harris. You see, most

971
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: of us saw our misfortunes coming. Those guys spent an

972
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: entire one hundred day campaign living in deluded La La land,

973
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: thinking that they would beat the don on their economy

974
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: didn't happen. So today it's not a great day, it's

975
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: not an awful day. And tomorrow, well tomorrow's neither great

976
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: nor awful either. But it could always be worse, couldn't it,

977
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: And for that we should always be grateful.

978
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 3: Brian Breadley twenty.

979
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: Nine minutes after five. Some very funny myths people are

980
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: sending in that their mothers have told them over the years.

981
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: We'll get some of those later on. Plus the Greens

982
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: on your cats, what exactly do they want to do?

983
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 24: Good?

984
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need.

985
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Heather d Pussy, Ellen Dray with one

986
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talk as they'd

987
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: be if we could.

988
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 9: Dreg it in.

989
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 26: If you know me, put some on back heavy anderun

990
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 26: just do me and a drug Good afternoon.

991
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from six, Chris text in the

992
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: show earlier are you going to talk? By the way

993
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: after six o'clock, we've got a lot more to come

994
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 2: and clear, We're going to do a little focus on

995
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: the markets with Milford because there's a bit of a

996
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: Sanda bump that happens at this time of year. So

997
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: if you've got shares and money invest in the stock market,

998
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: you want to know about the sand To bump right now.

999
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: Are you going to talk about the Auckland Club today,

1000
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: says Chris. That's a very out there happening. In fact,

1001
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: it's just Chris. Yes, I was planning to talk about

1002
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 2: the Northern Club and Auckland and I never got round

1003
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: to it. So here's a good excuse for those who

1004
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: haven't caught up. So the Northern Club is like a

1005
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 2: fancy place where it's a member's only bar and local

1006
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: facility that rich people use. And there's a District Court

1007
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: judge called Emma Aitken who went to the Northern Club

1008
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 2: at the same time that New Zealand First was having

1009
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: a party function there, and Winston Peters was there and

1010
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: Casey Costello was there anyway, and so District Court Judge

1011
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: Emma Aiken is there with her husband who's an intensive

1012
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: care specialist and apparently a celebrity doctor. I'd never heard

1013
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: of him, but anyway, his name is doctor David Galla.

1014
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: They start yelling and sophisticated place. I've been in there

1015
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: once for an interview. Who's that British pop star from

1016
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: the nineties anyway, forget his name. He wasn't that memorable.

1017
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: It's quite nice in there. You know, everybody's dressed well

1018
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 2: and there's white table class and all that kind of stuff.

1019
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: This District Court judge obviously had a few starts hurling

1020
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: abuse and yelling at Winston Peters in Casey Costello as

1021
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: they're holding this event, and this intensive care specialist says

1022
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: apparently yelled out, you're doing a shit job in government.

1023
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine how embarrassing at a very

1024
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: posh club, well to do club in Auckland. Apparently this

1025
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: is the bad part. They told a waiter, this is

1026
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: Dr David Gallard, according to the Herald, apparently told one

1027
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: of the waiters that of the staff there, since when

1028
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: do we start allowing Indians to enter the club? Now

1029
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he is talking about a Casey Costello who

1030
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: was by the way of Maui and English and Irish heritage,

1031
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: not Indian, but that's who he was talking about when

1032
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: he was making all these accusations. Absolutely feral behavior. You know,

1033
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: you can dress them up in their wigs, with their

1034
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: gavels and their scrubs at hospital. But that, my friends

1035
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 2: reads if you ask me, and they should be kicked

1036
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: out of the club. That's the same club where old Pokinghorn, remember,

1037
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: and they gave him the boot after well a lot

1038
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: obviously woners trial, but on the meth alone they got

1039
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: rid of him from the club. I would have thought

1040
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: you'd clean them out with the same broom and brush.

1041
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: Twenty away from six Ray and Bridge, the Greens are

1042
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 2: having a crack at compulsory microchipping for all domestic cats.

1043
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Green and p Cellia Wade Brown is proposing a new

1044
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: law that would force every cat owner to microchip their

1045
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: cat and register it in a national Register of domestic Cats. However,

1046
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 2: the bill doesn't include making d sexing compulsory. Green party

1047
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: in p Celly Wade Brown is with me. Now, Hello,

1048
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: good afternoon, Ryan. How are you very well? Thank you.

1049
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: How difficult do you think it's going to be to

1050
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: microchip all domestic cats?

1051
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 21: Well, I think about half of people's pets are already microchips,

1052
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 21: and we want to make sure that all of them

1053
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 21: can be reunited with their owners.

1054
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: And why aren't you including compulsory d sixing.

1055
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 21: Well, about eighty eight percent of cats are already defixed,

1056
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 21: So we think it's important that the second half of

1057
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 21: cats that aren't micro chipped and registered, and that that's

1058
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 21: our priority. That's going to improve cat welfare because they'll

1059
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 21: be reunited and it will also decrease the number of

1060
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 21: strays that become ferrals and are a big problem for

1061
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 21: our wonderful, unique wildlife.

1062
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: But why not make it compulsory to d six them

1063
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: so they don't keep procreating and causing more problems.

1064
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 21: Many people do desecx their cats already god free chips.

1065
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 21: That's only twelve percent of the total. And we think.

1066
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: About very unifications breed like rabbits, don't they cats?

1067
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 21: Certainly, uncontrolled breeding can cause problems, and there are far

1068
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 21: too many far or cats. This bill is a step

1069
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 21: towards reducing the.

1070
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: Number of Why certainly, why take one stick when you

1071
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: can take two? I mean, why leave the gate open

1072
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: to twelve percent? Gate open to feral breeding.

1073
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 21: I think there's a lot of people that would like

1074
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 21: to consider whether we do compulsory desexing, and that may

1075
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 21: come up when I get the bill to Select committee.

1076
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 21: The first step is to get this bill to Select

1077
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 21: committee so that we can hear the public's views, the

1078
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 21: experts views, the animal welfare people in more detail. I've

1079
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 21: been working with animal welfare people and conservation groups, and

1080
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 21: you're right, there are a lot of people that are

1081
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 21: interested in cats being de sex It's a bit more complex.

1082
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 21: You need a breeders register, and it's just a step

1083
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 21: too far for a private members bill a members fill.

1084
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: What happens to all the stray cats when they aren't microchipped.

1085
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 21: Well, it depends what the calls or other organizations that

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Speaker 21: are already doing, I mean ferral cats in the middle

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Speaker 21: of field land where you're not allowed to have cats anyway.

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Speaker 21: That will continue with the whatever trapping procedures that they're

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Speaker 21: using at the moment. But there's some new technology with

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Speaker 21: live traps that they won't even go off if it's

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Speaker 21: a domestic cat, and also if it's a live trap

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Speaker 21: where it's difficult to know near people's houses where there

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Speaker 21: are cats, a pet cat or a ferral cat, and

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Speaker 21: so having a micro chip will make it much easier

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Speaker 21: to return them home.

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Speaker 2: We should bring back those competitions where they shoot the

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Speaker 2: feral ones. Do you like those?

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Speaker 21: I think that the Mirror Mar Peninsula would be much

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Speaker 21: better off with live traps, have you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Meanwhire and Mirror Mar. I suppose. But you know

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Speaker 2: in the rural areas, you're all on board with them,

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Speaker 2: you know, shooting them.

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Speaker 21: Well, the rural communities have been doing a fantastic job

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Speaker 21: in the catchment communities of bringing that while life and

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00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 21: they don't want to harm their neighbors pet cats either,

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Speaker 21: So we'll just see horses for courses, rural and town

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Speaker 21: and city and wild field land.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, Isn't that? It's hard? Seily be because it's

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00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: because you're you're a green empe and you can't say

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Speaker 2: shoot cats, you know what I mean, even though you

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00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: might want to.

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Speaker 21: I think the green MP's are pretty keen on our

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 21: overall commitment to both climate protection and nature protection. And

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00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 21: this is one step towards protecting nature with some added

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Speaker 21: benefits for pet cats.

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Speaker 2: All right, get on your Celia Sila around Green Impe.

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Speaker 2: It is sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, Local

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Speaker 1: and global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Tim Wilson, the Mexim Institute, Jack Tame host

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: of Q and A and Saturday mornings on ZB. Good evening, guys,

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00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: good evening, Good evening. What do we think, Tim, what

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Speaker 2: do we think about the cats?

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Speaker 13: Well, you probably didn't hear it, but Jack was cracking

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Speaker 13: up because Cecilia wouldn't take your bait that you dangled

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00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 13: Ryan shooting feral cats. Now, there may or may not

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Speaker 13: be a place called Young's eergun Shop on Dominion Road

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Speaker 13: that does Kalashnikov mockups fully automatic BB guns. Now I'm

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Speaker 13: not suggesting that that's that's the thing to do. I

1130
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 13: think she's trying to solve a problem that she thinks

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Speaker 13: she can solve. It's the micro chipping, so go for it.

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Speaker 13: But the problem is the numbers. Microchipping is forty to

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Speaker 13: eighty bucks, desexing fifteen bucks for a male. I know

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Speaker 13: where i'd go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the good point, Jack, what are you? Poor?

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00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: Poor Cillia way Brown? I mean, well, came on here

1137
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Speaker 2: to do a nice interview.

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Speaker 27: It was the casualness with which she said, you like

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 27: shooting cats?

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Speaker 8: So like.

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00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 27: This, I can see the way your brain's working, and

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Speaker 27: I love it. Look, I am speaking from the perspective

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Speaker 27: of someone who made some extremely ill advised comments about

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Speaker 27: about cats and the protection of birds and various measures

1145
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 27: that might help in that front on morning television in

1146
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 27: the past, and as a result has received about ten

1147
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 27: thousand letters of complaint and various death threats and things

1148
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Speaker 27: in the male. So I'm going to be very careful

1149
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 27: with my language, but I am not a big fan

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01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 27: of cats. I think compository marcroshipping is a really good idea.

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01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 27: I think you're right. I think we could go one

1152
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 27: step further and have desexting as well. I'd be personally

1153
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 27: supportive of that, and I think in the right setting

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01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 27: in rural communities when it comes to feral cats not

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Speaker 27: domestic cats, that yes, sometimes those competitions they have to

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01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 27: try and reduce the feral cat numbers are a very

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 27: good idea.

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01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 13: Yeah, because oh my goodness, see the air will cloud,

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 13: the air will cloud with texts. Jack Tamer is for

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Speaker 13: shooting cats. Look out, guys.

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Speaker 2: I just think because we don't have we've got birds. Basically,

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: we don't have much in the way of interesting things

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: to look at in the bush. But we've got birds

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Speaker 2: and we've got cats killing them, so we need to

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01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: kill the cats. Quite simple.

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Speaker 27: Well, I mean I think that the theory would be

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01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 27: that if we do have more micro chipping and we

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01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 27: have more decexing, which again I support, then hopefully we

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 27: would have fewer feral cats in the future and they

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Speaker 27: would present less of a risk to birds and preps.

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Speaker 27: We wouldn't have to hunt them as well.

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Speaker 2: It is thirteen away from six. Coming up next, Tim

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Speaker 2: Wilson and Jack Tame on the ferals at the Northern Club.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevated the

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01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: marketing of your Home.

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: Eleven to six. Tim Wilson the Maxim Institute and Jack

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: Tame host a Q and A and Saturday mornings on

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: ZB Guys, that's before we get to the Northern Club

1179
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: and what the judge and the senior lawyer did or

1180
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 2: didn't say to Winston Peters there the easter trading thing.

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01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: Obviously the conscience vote has gone nowhere, so easter trading

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Speaker 2: won't be happening anytime soon for me, Tim, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is not a religious thing or anything. It's just

1184
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: it's nice for people to have a after we need

1185
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: to be shopping every day and you can do it

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01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: online anyway.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's true, but I guess I was thinking

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01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 13: about those people and obviously, for for me and my

1189
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 13: family it's a it's a it's a sacred day. But

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Speaker 13: for those who don't you know who who don't see

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 13: it that way, and the right not to work on

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Speaker 13: Good Friday, that sort of seemed a fairness issue, which

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 13: you would think would appeal to you know, keewis love fairness.

1194
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 13: So I was quite I was quite surprised by the

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01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 13: sort of vehemence of the response in Parliament on that

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01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 13: conscience vote today. I don't know how much conscience was

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01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 13: being operated. Maybe there's a bit of secret whipping going on.

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Speaker 27: Well it looks like it, Jack, What do you think, Yeah,

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Speaker 27: I mean I'm a little surprised actually, because you know

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Speaker 27: it just I feel like this issue comes up every

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01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 27: single year and has done for my entire lifetime. Like

1202
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 27: it feels like that for decades now. Every Easter we

1203
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 27: have the inevitable newspaper editorials or talk back radio conversations.

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Speaker 3: About why don't we allow trading?

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Speaker 27: We like, you say, you can go and shop, you

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01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 27: can go and buy stuff on the internet, so why

1207
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 27: should you be able to buy stuff on the internet,

1208
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 27: but you can't go down to your local garden center

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Speaker 27: and pick.

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Speaker 2: Up a thing or two.

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Speaker 27: So look, I was a little surprised to see the

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Speaker 27: vote today. I think the only way this debate would

1213
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Speaker 27: be stopped is if they voted to support easter trading.

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Speaker 27: And you know we're not there now obviously, but yeah,

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Speaker 27: you know, I just I think it's inevitable that come

1216
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 27: next year, once again we're going to be saying, oh,

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01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 27: why you're allowed to go down to the shops?

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Speaker 2: Yeah that retail and Z said they pretty much exactly that.

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Speaker 2: I said, when's the next time you think you're going

1220
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Speaker 2: to raise this issue? And she goes, well, next year, Hey,

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01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: let's talk about what happened Evan Northern. First of all, Tim,

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: have you been to the Northern Club? What's what's it like?

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Speaker 22: Can you give us as it's pretty swish and it's yeah,

1224
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 22: it's not quite you know, lit the hallways of the powerful,

1225
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 22: murmuring their assertions and cravats.

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Speaker 13: But it is it's wish, it's quiet and it's orderly.

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Speaker 13: So what what I mean what we're hearing about sounds

1228
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 13: like some kind of you know, orientation week brought to

1229
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 13: the Northern Club with judges screaming out at you know,

1230
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Speaker 13: the deputy Prime minister. And you think if you flipped it,

1231
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 13: like if there was a judge was found to be

1232
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 13: screaming at, say, you know it's the deputy prime minister

1233
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 13: who was a Greenee. I think this is a bit

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Speaker 13: of politics going on here as well, where the elite,

1235
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 13: a group of members of the elite don't like the

1236
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 13: politics of a particular party and they're playing it out.

1237
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 13: But that's not leadership. That's not what leaders do. And

1238
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 13: you were saying, you know, oh, they should boot them out.

1239
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 13: N I think actually they should be made to do

1240
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 13: the dishes at the Northern Club for two weeks or

1241
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 13: working with a lot of Indians.

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Speaker 27: Isn't it amazing that it doesn't matter what First of all,

1243
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 27: I'm glad to see that I'm the only one of

1244
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 27: the three of us never to have been to the

1245
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 27: Northern Club, so I spoken.

1246
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 13: Stat well, you're the one who's saying you've never been

1247
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 13: to the Northern Club, Jack.

1248
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 27: I find it just amazing. It doesn't matter. It doesn't

1249
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 27: matter how professionally successful you are, it doesn't matter how

1250
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 27: fancy your job title is. All of that stuff, you

1251
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 27: can still come across at a Christmas party, Like what

1252
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 27: was going on at this judge's party that things got

1253
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 27: so loose? Now, you know, I think it should be

1254
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 27: pointed out, is it David Galler.

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 27: Yeah, he's so strenuously denying he made any kind of

1257
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 27: racist comment, but you would have to say, from the

1258
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 27: details that aren't being.

1259
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 13: Denied, it has been reported.

1260
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just.

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Speaker 27: Totally totally inappropriate behavior, like you say, definitely has an

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01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 27: ear of politics about it. We should have, you know,

1263
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 27: total separation when it comes to the judiciary and politicians.

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01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 27: So I hope that politicians don't go too far in

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 27: terms of the consequences that they are demanding of this situation.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think hopefully this.

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Speaker 27: Reflects really really poorly on those rolls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. I think hopefully we can just leave

1269
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: it there as a sort of a messy end to

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Speaker 2: the year and a bit bit too much booze at

1271
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: a Christmas party. Guys, thanks so much for being on

1272
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Speaker 2: with me. Six minutes away from six that's Jack Tame

1273
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: and Tim Wilson on ZB.

1274
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: Red or Blue, Trump or Harris who will win the

1275
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: battleground states? The latest on the US election. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duplicy Alan Drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected

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Speaker 1: US TALKSB.

1278
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Speaker 2: News Talk ZB coming up after the News at six,

1279
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Speaker 2: we are talking to a reporter out of Vila in Vanahatu.

1280
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Speaker 2: The runway they've got issues with that cracks in the

1281
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: side of the runway. There has been a landslide on

1282
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: the port. So how are you going to resupply? They're

1283
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: okay for supplies at the moment, according to latest reports,

1284
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: but how do you resupply this area that's been hit

1285
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: by an earthquake. Fourteen people have sadly lost their lives. Thankfully,

1286
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Speaker 2: some good news today. They did find those two IMFAT

1287
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Speaker 2: workers are locals who worked for m FAT. They did

1288
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: find them, so a little spot of bright news. Will

1289
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Speaker 2: check in with our reporter after this.

1290
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Speaker 1: What up, what's down? What were the major calls and

1291
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: how will it affect the economy.

1292
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: Of big business?

1293
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: Questions on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and my

1294
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: Ata on News Talks.

1295
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: FB seven after six, New Talk SEDB. In just a

1296
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Speaker 2: few moments, we are looking at S and P global ratings.

1297
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: What are they saying about the government's books we revealed yesterday?

1298
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: Right now Key we search and Rescue teams are preparing

1299
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Speaker 2: to fly to Vanuatu in the next few hours. Early

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Speaker 2: reports estimate hundreds have been injured. More than a dozen

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Speaker 2: people have died. This after yesterday's seven point three earthquake.

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Speaker 2: There is little to no electricity, running water, or fuel.

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Speaker 2: Journalist Dan McGarry is with us from Vanuatu. Dan, thanks

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Speaker 2: for being on the program. First of all, where exactly

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Speaker 2: are you and what's going on where you are right now?

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Speaker 28: I'm in Portfolio, the capital, which was about thirty four

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Speaker 28: to thirty five kilometers away from the epicenter of the earthquake.

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Speaker 28: It is because it's the most built up area on

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Speaker 28: this island. It's the area that has experienced the most damage.

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Speaker 28: We've seen buildings destroyed, you know. I'm sure you've seen

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Speaker 28: the images and widespread damage to a great many buildings,

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Speaker 28: especially in the city center. We have seen massive landslides.

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Speaker 28: They're visible from you know, over a kilometer away down

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Speaker 28: in the area right beside our national shipping or international

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Speaker 28: shipping terminal that's been closed. The entire facility is out

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Speaker 28: of bounds now, as is the downtown area in Port Vila.

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Speaker 28: Power is off. Water is being restored very slowly to

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Speaker 28: local neighborhoods. We lost two large capacity water tanks on

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Speaker 28: the hills just outside of town, and so water supply

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Speaker 28: is going to be a continuing concern. We've also seen

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Speaker 28: the National Disaster Management Office is reporting fourteen dead, two

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Speaker 28: hundred injured, and they expect that the casualty figure will

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Speaker 28: increase in the next day or so.

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Speaker 2: Are they still hopeful of finding people alive.

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Speaker 28: I've heard that rescue operations are ongoing. Somebody told me

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Speaker 28: that they had pulled somebody out. I haven't been able

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Speaker 28: to confirm it, so I won't speculate. However, we do

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Speaker 28: know that there were four bodies recovered from the wreckage

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Speaker 28: in the last twenty four hours or so.

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Speaker 2: So the port is basically out of action because of

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Speaker 2: the landslide. What about the earfield? What about the airport?

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Speaker 28: There were cracks reported on the edge of the tarmac,

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Speaker 28: so I think prior to any plane landing they're going

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Speaker 28: to need to get engineers to take a close look

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Speaker 28: at at the extent of the damage. So it's just

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Speaker 28: too soon to say what's going on. But there are

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Speaker 28: no flights incoming or outgoing at this time. There were

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Speaker 28: overflights by Royal Australian Air Force and New Zealand Air

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Speaker 28: Force planes to do aerial surveys, but I don't think

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Speaker 28: that any of them have landed.

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Speaker 2: Is that a problem that we can't you can't get

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Speaker 2: freightened or can't get any air freight in at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Are people in need of water or food or supplies?

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Speaker 28: We've got enough because we're you know, we import almost

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Speaker 28: everything by ship. You know, we're used to having a

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Speaker 28: fairly large standing stock of essentials. But with these two

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Speaker 28: facilities constrained and possibly offline, that's a really significant concern

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Speaker 28: in terms of resupply. And so you can imagine, you know,

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Speaker 28: there are a lot of people who are waiting anxiously

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Speaker 28: to see just what the extent of the damage was,

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Speaker 28: especially down in the content.

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Speaker 2: All right, take care Dan. That's Dan McGarry, who's a

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Speaker 2: journalist based in Portville, Vanawatu. It has just gone ten

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Speaker 2: minutes after six News Talk said b coming up next,

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Speaker 2: what are the rating agencies saying about us? After we

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Speaker 2: opened our books yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Analysis from the experts bringing you everything you need to

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Speaker 1: know on the US election. It's The Business Hour with

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy, Allen and my Hr ehr solution for busy

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Speaker 1: SMEs News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Six thirteen News Talk ZAIB. SMP Global Ratings is warning

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Speaker 2: that all the debt we're going to need to keep

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Speaker 2: the lights on is going to come at a cost.

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Speaker 2: Treasury yesterday warned that the government will need twenty billion

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Speaker 2: dollars more than forecast at the budget in May. It's

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Speaker 2: next to sixteen percent in bonds than was predicted. And

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Speaker 2: Jane tips Training is with us. She's The Herald's Wellington

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Speaker 2: business editor. She's been across this story. Good evening, Jane.

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Speaker 2: Nice to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 29: Hello, Ryan, good to be here.

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Speaker 2: Now, what has SMP been telling you?

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Speaker 30: So?

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Speaker 29: I've just come off the phone with a guy called

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Speaker 29: Martin fu. Now, you know, credit rating agencies what they

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Speaker 29: have to say about the New Zealand government books matters

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Speaker 29: because our credit rating agent. Credit rating determines the sort

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Speaker 29: of interest rates that we pay investors who buy our debt. Now,

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Speaker 29: Martin noted, you know they're still digesting the numbers. For

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Speaker 29: now New Zealand's credit rating has not changed. The outlook

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Speaker 29: is still stable. But he was surprised by the deterioration

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Speaker 29: of the economic forecast you know, the things are not

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Speaker 29: looking as good as previously assumed. He also made the

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Speaker 29: point that because the New Zealand government is having to

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Speaker 29: issue in additional sixteen percent more bonds, additional twenty billion

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Speaker 29: dollars over four years, that's a lot more than expected.

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Speaker 29: Because of that, he reckons, sure, there will be investors

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Speaker 29: around the world and domestically who are willing to buy

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Speaker 29: those bonds, but it'll come at a cost. Right, So

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Speaker 29: if there are more bonds in the market, the price

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Speaker 29: of the bonds falls and the yields rise, so that

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Speaker 29: means we have to pay more interest most likely to

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Speaker 29: get these bonds sold. So Martin Foo made the point that,

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Speaker 29: you know, the New Zealand government is not the only

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Speaker 29: one issuing a whole lot of debt at the moment us.

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Speaker 29: You know, all through Europe they're doing the same thing.

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Speaker 29: There are a whole lot of bonds to be bought

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Speaker 29: in the bond market. Because of that, the interest rates,

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Speaker 29: the yields, there will be some upward pressure on that

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Speaker 29: that will rise a bit. So that means, you know,

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Speaker 29: we are paying more interest for the debt.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, isn't it, because then you start thinking, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: making a decision in isolation. To issue bonds is one thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, to take on more debt is one thing,

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Speaker 2: But then how what the market situation is like at

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Speaker 2: the time that you actually do that as another And

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what you're telling us now. And then does

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Speaker 2: it make you reevaluate whether, oh, perhaps I should have

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Speaker 2: cut more spending or perhaps I should have raised revenue.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, well that's the thing. When COVID came along, interest

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Speaker 29: rates were really low, so servicing the debt was very cheap,

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Speaker 29: and everyone expected interest rates to remain low. So we

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Speaker 29: didn't foresee the sorts of inflation that we've had globally,

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Speaker 29: which means we didn't foresee interest rates rising as much

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Speaker 29: and therefore debt servicing costs rising as much as they have.

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Speaker 29: So the Treasury thinks that the cost of servicing the

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Speaker 29: debt could hit about twelve billion dollars by twenty eight,

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Speaker 29: twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine, So twelve billion dollars

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Speaker 29: in a year. That's that's really high.

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Speaker 2: And this wasn't healthy, it's saying, is it.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, yeah, well something like that, And you know, we

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Speaker 29: didn't we didn't foresee that. The reason fiscal conservatives. Conservatives

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Speaker 29: will say we need to get back to surplus. Is

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Speaker 29: because once we get the books back to surplus, we

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Speaker 29: can start repaying the debt. What we're doing at the

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Speaker 29: moment is just rolling over the COVID debt and then

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Speaker 29: issuing more debt on top of that to pay for

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Speaker 29: all the new spend. And you know that's fine. We

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Speaker 29: actually need to keep the lights on in the country.

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Speaker 29: We have all this infrastructure that we need to invest in,

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Speaker 29: but it does come at a cost. And other countries

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Speaker 29: are doing the same thing, and that is putting upward

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Speaker 29: pressure on those on those interest.

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Speaker 2: Rates, which gets us to the peak forty seven percent

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Speaker 2: GDP to debt to GDP ratio that we're expected to

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Speaker 2: hit on the back of these new forecasts. Right and

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Speaker 2: you know, you look for pre COVID, we were sitting

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Speaker 2: at around twenty we're always twenty or maybe up to

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Speaker 2: twenty four, but less than that. Then we went up

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Speaker 2: to forty. Now we're going to peak at forty seven

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Speaker 2: percent debt to GDP. Is that how worrying is that?

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's nothing nowhere near what other countries like Europe, etc. Are,

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Speaker 2: But we're a small trading nation. How vulnerable are we

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 29: Well, that's the exact thing.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 29: There'll be people who say, we can't just go slashing

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Speaker 29: everything because we need you know, healthcare, and we desperately

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Speaker 29: need investment in infrastructure, so we can't go not spending money.

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Speaker 29: But on the other hand, if there was to be

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Speaker 29: another big disaster or another big event, we are exposed.

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Speaker 29: We're a little ireland. We rely on our trading partners.

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Speaker 29: The world is a pretty volatile and uncertain place. There

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Speaker 29: is arguably greater need for us to have our books

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Speaker 29: in really good shape because of our vulnerabilities compared to

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Speaker 29: other countries like the US, you know, which have way

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Speaker 29: more debt than we have, even relative to the size

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Speaker 29: of the economy. So it's a balancing act and you know,

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Speaker 29: the government has a national at least has suggested it

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Speaker 29: does want to strike a good balance and not you know,

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Speaker 29: slash spending at all costs. Whether they are striking that

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Speaker 29: right the balance in a good way is the issue

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Speaker 29: that's really up for debate.

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Speaker 2: To know, really good analysis. Thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 2: Jena to Trainey, who's New Zealand Herald's Wellington business editor,

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Speaker 2: with US Live nineteen minutes after six on news Talk SEBB.

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Speaker 2: So at the moment it sounds like the rating agencies,

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Speaker 2: the s and ps, etc. They're not they're not panicking

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Speaker 2: about what's going on, but they do say it's going

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Speaker 2: to cost us because everyone else is issuing bonds and

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Speaker 2: we're issuing a lot more of them than we thought.

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Speaker 2: We won't get as good a price, as mean as

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Speaker 2: we're going to pay more for the debt that we

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Speaker 2: need to run the place. Nineteen after six Coming up next?

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Speaker 2: What is coming up next? Forgive me? It's Milford and

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Speaker 2: we're talking about Santa. What has Santa got to do

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Speaker 2: with your shares?

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics. It's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hours with Ryan Bridge and my HR

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Speaker 1: the HR solution for busy SMEs News talksb.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two after six. Time to have a quick look

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Speaker 2: at the market. Stephanie Bachelor from Milford Asset Managements with me. Stephanie, Hello,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon, Ryan. There's a phenomenon in the financial markets.

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Speaker 2: They call it the Santa Rally. Apparently happens every year.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 30: Yeah, So the Centanta rally refers to the share market's

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Speaker 30: history of being really strong over the last five trading

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Speaker 30: sessions in December and the first two trading sessions in

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Speaker 30: the new year. If you go back and look at

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Speaker 30: every year since nineteen twenty eight, those seven trading sessions

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Speaker 30: have delivered positive returns almost eighty percent of the time,

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Speaker 30: and on average it's delivered a return of about one

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Speaker 30: point six percent. So it's a nice little gift from Center.

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Speaker 2: Is this like what causes it? Because is this more

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Speaker 2: just that most traders are actually away on holiday at

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Speaker 2: this time.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, so that's part of it. It's not really known,

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Speaker 30: but there are a few theories. So one is that

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Speaker 30: it's a time when people get Christmas cash gifts or

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Speaker 30: work bonuses that they then want to put to work

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Speaker 30: in the markets. And because a lot of those professional investors,

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Speaker 30: as you mentioned, are off on holiday, there are fewer

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Speaker 30: trades happening, and so that can amplify share price movements.

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Speaker 30: Others kind of think it's just the general holiday optimism

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Speaker 30: that helps, or it could actually just be a bit

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Speaker 30: of a self fulfilling prophecy. Because people know about CENTER rally,

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Speaker 30: they invest in stocks to benefit from it, which in

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Speaker 30: turn pushes is higher and kind of causes the Center

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Speaker 30: rally in itself.

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Speaker 2: We actually can't discount Stephanie that it might actually be

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Speaker 2: Santa at work.

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Speaker 30: True, I hadn't thought of that one.

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01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: Nice to learn it for some people then if they

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01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: want to jump in at this time of year, what

1514
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: let's take a look back at the year that was though,

1515
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: how global markets ended up in general? Obviously, the US

1516
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: has been up heaps, Japan's been up heaps. Tell us

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01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: the numbers.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, so it's been an incredibly strong year pretty much

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01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 30: all around. So as you say, the US market has

1520
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 30: been the strongest, up twenty seven percent, Japan also strong

1521
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 30: eighteen percent, and actually China's done quite well since the

1522
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 30: government announced stimulus measures, so that's kind of up in

1523
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 30: the mid teens. And then we have New Zealand, Australia,

1524
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 30: Europe all coming in around nine percent, and the UK's

1525
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 30: at seven percent, So pretty positive all round.

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Speaker 2: What have been some of the big winners? You know,

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01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: I'm thinking tech stocks AI.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, So if we look at the MSCI world, it's

1529
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 30: the main global The best performing stock has been a

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 30: company called app Lovin, and it's up seven hundred and

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01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 30: sixty percent this year. So that's a technology company that

1532
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 30: provides advertising solutions to gaming app developers. And then the

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 30: next one on the list is Palenteer, which is up

1534
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 30: three hundred and forty percent, and again it's a tech company.

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01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 30: It offers software platforms to help companies better analyze and

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01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 30: utilize all the data that they that they have. And

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01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 30: both of these, as you say, they're considered AI stocks,

1538
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 30: so that theme is very much alive and well. And

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 30: another name that people might recognize is robin Hood that's

1540
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 30: coming in at number five, up two hundred and forty percent,

1541
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 30: and that's the stock trading platform that became really popular

1542
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 30: during COVID at Love.

1543
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: And I hadn't heard of that one before. I'm just

1544
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: googling it now. Really interesting company. Let's talk about the

1545
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: big bad boy of well, not bad boy, but the

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01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 2: big boy of the post child of AI in Nvidia.

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 2: How have they performed this year because obviously they had

1548
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: a stellar run over the last four to five years.

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01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 30: Yeah, they have, so it's it's still right up there.

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01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 30: It's number eight on the list, so a very healthy

1551
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 30: upp one hundred and seventy percent year to date. But

1552
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 30: keep in mind that's after a very strong run, you know,

1553
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 30: two hundred and forty percent last year, so very impressive

1554
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 30: growth still for that one.

1555
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: And then now where their market cap is now more

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01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,839
Speaker 2: than the next five listed a top five listed companies

1557
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: or something ridiculous like that, and the companies that haven't

1558
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: done so well s Jeff this year.

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01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 30: Yeah, So in stark contrast to Nvidia is actually another

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01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 30: semiconductor company called Intel, and it used to be the

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01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 30: largest computer chip maker, but it's more focused on legacy

1562
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 30: PC chips rather than those kind of newer, hotter areas

1563
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,839
Speaker 30: of the market which are GPUs and that's all about AI.

1564
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 30: So shares of Intel are down about sixty percent this year.

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01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 30: And then another name people might remember is Maderna. So

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01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 30: it rolled out one of the first COVID vaccines back

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01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 30: in twenty twenty and shares did really well, but of

1568
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 30: course vaccine sales have fallen and it doesn't have enough

1569
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 30: of the sort of other products or other vaccines to

1570
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 30: fill the gap. So shares on this one also down

1571
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 30: about sixty percent this year.

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Speaker 2: All right, stephaniely, thank you for that's Stephanie Bachelor Milfin

1573
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: Asset Management with a market wrap just coming up twenty

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 2: seven minutes after six year on news Talk, said be

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01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 2: lots more to come. After the news, I'll tell you

1576
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: about the hunting accident in the United States. It's making headlines.

1577
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 2: It's a shocking story. Also, the bridge from Winyard Quarter

1578
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: will get you from Silo Parks of Winyard Quarter. They've

1579
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 2: fixed it ten million dollars again two times now. It's

1580
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: it's broken after being fixed. So we'll get to look

1581
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: at that as well.

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Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates. The Business Hour

1583
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and My the HR Solution for busy

1584
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,520
Speaker 1: s Emmy on News Talk ZIBB.

1585
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 3: Sebaration.

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01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 2: And Mere seven Good evening, twenty five away from seven

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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZVB. We're going live to our correspondent, our international

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 2: correspondent just before seven right now. Virginia and the United States.

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Speaker 2: This is an awful case of it's kind of calmer

1590
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. So a group of hunters

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01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: go hunting in Virginia for beers. They're going beer shooting

1592
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:46,839
Speaker 2: and follow the beer through the forest through the trees.

1593
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 2: Beer runs up a tree. This is a true story.

1594
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 2: It's been reported today. A beer runs up a tree.

1595
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 2: The hunters pull back from the tree to see if

1596
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: they can get it catch a glimpse of the beer.

1597
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: One hunter does catch a glimpse of the bear, opens fire,

1598
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: kills the bear. Beer falls from the tree, lands on hunter,

1599
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 2: kills hunter karma, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: I mean?

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01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: And moral of the story, it's a dangerous thing. Apparently

1602
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 2: this is quite common. Another man was injured in twenty nineteen.

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01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: So his hunting partner shot a bear in tree and

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01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: this is in North Carolina. The bear fell out of

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01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: the tree, wasn't dead, started biting the hunter. I mean,

1606
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 2: there dangerous animals. What do you expect? Anyway? The man

1607
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 2: and the animal then tumble off a cliff. Hunter taken

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01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: to hospital. Bear was found dead. Moral of the story,

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01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: dangerous bear hunting dangerous twenty four away from seven ran Bridge.

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01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: Also potentially dangerous is installing some of our kitchen bench

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01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 2: tops In New Zealand. The government has opened a consultation

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01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: process around the harmful effects of engineered stone that's used

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01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: in our kitchens. Australia banned the use of them and

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01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: the manufacturer back in July after evidence of serious illness

1615
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 2: from dust particles. The government has expressed a number of

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01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 2: options are possible, including a partial or total band Doctor

1617
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 2: Alexandra Mutu is the Royal Australasian College of Physicians spokesperson

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01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: and is with me this evening. Good evening, Hi Ryan,

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01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: how are you very well? Thank you? Can you give

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: us an idea of exactly what it is we're talking

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01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: about here? Engineered stone? What is it? How common is

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01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: it in New Zealand.

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01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 31: So if you have a look at the kitchen at

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01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 31: your workplace or your home and maybe a bathroom, that

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 31: benchtop material is probably made of engineered stone. It's the

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01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 31: most common sort of thing that's used in those locations

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 31: in your property because it's really easy to fabricate and

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01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 31: it looks good.

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01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 2: Looks like marble somewhere. Let's not go overboard. But it

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01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: looks nice, yes, And is it harmful to us if

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01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: we just sitting here eating.

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 31: Off it, No, it's not harmful. It's a little bit

1633
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 31: like asbestos, if any of their listeners know about that.

1634
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 31: So if it's left alone and it's solid, then it

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01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 31: is fine. The danger is that when it's being maybe

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01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 31: what we call fabricated, which is you might put a

1637
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 31: tool onto it and you make dust. It's got a

1638
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 31: very high content of silica in it, and so that

1639
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 31: dust goes into the air, which is made of silica dust,

1640
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 31: and you breed that in and it gets right to

1641
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 31: the bottom of the lungs and causes a whole raft

1642
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 31: of health conditions, both in the lungs but also elsewhere

1643
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 31: in the body.

1644
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: Does a mask fix that.

1645
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,839
Speaker 31: Only some masks work, and only if they're worn properly,

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 31: and it's very tricky to do it well. There's also

1647
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 31: silica in natural rocks, so when people are doing construction

1648
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,839
Speaker 31: work like the tunnels or mining, that also produces silica

1649
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 31: dust in the air, but that is at a much

1650
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 31: lower concentration. So an engineered stones, the concentration can be

1651
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 31: right up above eighty ninety percent of the product, you know,

1652
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 31: is silica, and so what you're breathing in is a

1653
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 31: very high concentration of silica dust. And we know from

1654
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 31: the research and from what work Safe has done when

1655
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 31: they've gone and looked at these workplaces, is that even

1656
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 31: after really good education, people cut corners. They either don't

1657
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 31: wear a mask or they don't wear it properly. And

1658
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 31: so there's other things that can be done.

1659
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 13: Like.

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01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 31: When you're producing that dust, you can use water to

1661
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 31: dampen down the dust. Again, that only works partially, and

1662
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 31: so we know that we're still getting workers who are

1663
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 31: getting high concentrations of silica dust down into their lungs,

1664
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 31: even when they're doing everything they can to try and

1665
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 31: protect themselves and their colleagues.

1666
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: How does it affect their health?

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01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 31: It can affect your health in multiple ways. One the

1668
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 31: most common one that we're talking about often in the

1669
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 31: media is silicosis. Silicosis is really what we call an

1670
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,919
Speaker 31: interstitial lung disease. What that means is it causes scarring

1671
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 31: in the lungs, and scarring in the lungs can be

1672
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 31: caused by multiple different things, one of which is silica

1673
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 31: dust and with enginet stone, because of the really high

1674
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 31: concentration of silica, you get a much shorter exposure period.

1675
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 31: So what I mean by that is the first time

1676
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 31: you get exposed to it, you can have one or

1677
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 31: two years of workplace exposure and develop this significant scarring

1678
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 31: in the lungs, Versus if you were in mining, it

1679
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 31: might take ten years of exposure with poor controls, so

1680
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 31: there's a much higher risk. So that's the scarring and

1681
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 31: the lungs. It can also lead to cancers in the

1682
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 31: lungs and elsewhere it can cause autoimmune problems and impact

1683
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:52,839
Speaker 31: on the heart and other systems like the kidneys.

1684
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: And what percentage of workers are we talking Is this widespread?

1685
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Are we talking like one percent of the work force?

1686
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 31: If we look at the Australian data they have done

1687
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 31: in some of their states, they have done very extensive

1688
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 31: assessments of all of the workers and they have up

1689
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 31: to twenty five percent of workers with very serious disease. Sure, yeah,

1690
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 31: it's really high.

1691
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: And that's with them using the safety precautions as well,

1692
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 2: or a bit of both, a bit of both.

1693
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 1: We know that.

1694
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 31: The people who yeah, it's a good question, Ryne, We

1695
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 31: know that people who get educated should be able to

1696
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 31: use better safety precautions. But we know from the evidence

1697
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 31: that those things aren't usually followed very well.

1698
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand that we all get a bit lazier.

1699
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: I mean we get lazy with driving a car. I mean,

1700
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: I can imagine you know what I mean. You get

1701
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: lazy with things that work and health and safety, don't you.

1702
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: So what happens what happened in Australia when they got

1703
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 2: rid of the industry, basically when they banned this product.

1704
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 31: So I understand, you know there are commercial sensitivities and

1705
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 31: I do feel really feel for people who have had

1706
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 31: their business in this area. But I've met some of

1707
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 31: those people who have developed significant disease personally or in

1708
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 31: their loved ones. And I know of at least one

1709
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 31: New Zealander who has passed away from silica related lung disease,

1710
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 31: and that was a family owned business. So you know,

1711
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 31: while in Australia, I know there are people who have

1712
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 31: lost some of their livelihood and they've had to go

1713
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 31: back to using products such as marble. What's happened is

1714
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 31: there's been less introduction of this engineered stone products into

1715
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 31: Australia and so the demand has obviously gone because it's

1716
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 31: illegal now to use.

1717
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 2: It, right, Interesting, all right, Well, obviously our government's open

1718
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: for consultation, so we'll wait and see what comes of that.

1719
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time. Great to have

1720
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: you on the program, Doctor Alexandra Mouth through the Royal

1721
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: Australasian College of Physicians spokesperson. The time is seventeen minutes

1722
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 2: away from seven. You're on NEWSTALKSBB Lots more to come,

1723
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Speaker 2: including our international correspondent and an update on what they're

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Speaker 2: doing in the Australian state of Victoria with protesters. That's

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Speaker 2: proving controversial.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and my HR the

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Speaker 1: HR Solution for busy SMS on News TALKSBB.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen Away from seven on News TALKSZBB. Gavin Gray is

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Speaker 2: our UK correspondent. We're going to get to him in

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Speaker 2: just a second, but I just wanted to run this by.

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Speaker 2: This is in Victoria in Australia. This is a legislation

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Speaker 2: that's being introduced, so it's just at the state level,

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Speaker 2: but the Premiere they're just into alan. Obviously they've been

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Speaker 2: dealing with some pretty horrible arson attacks on a synagogue

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Speaker 2: in particular in Melbourne, right and they're wanting to do

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Speaker 2: something to try and stop these attacks from happening in

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Speaker 2: the future. So the Victorian pre has come up with

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Speaker 2: an idea protesting would be banned outside any place of worship.

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Speaker 2: What's more, if you protest with a face mask or

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Speaker 2: certain flags, then they would be prohibited. You could be

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Speaker 2: arrested for doing that. Now it's a tough one, isn't it,

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Speaker 2: Because obviously you don't want anyone to be going out

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Speaker 2: and inciting violence or harassing people outside a place of worship,

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Speaker 2: you know, like a synagogue, and no one wants to

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Speaker 2: see that. But also, at what point do you start

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Speaker 2: to encroach on people's civil liberties when you say you

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Speaker 2: can't wear a mask outside, you can't protest outside this

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Speaker 2: building and outside that building. And I know they do

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Speaker 2: that with abortion clinics in New Zealand. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess where do you draw the line? Nine two

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Speaker 2: nine two. It's just gone thirteen away from seven Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Gray are UK correspondent with US. A plot to

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Speaker 2: assassinate Pope Francis during a trip to Iraq has been

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Speaker 2: stopped following a tip off from British intelligence. Kevin, what

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Speaker 2: can you tell us about that?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Ran.

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Speaker 32: This all comes from the autobiography, which is being published

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Speaker 32: over the coming weeks now, and the Pope writes that

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Speaker 32: after landing in Baghdad back in March of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 32: he was told that an event at which he was

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Speaker 32: set to appear was going to be targeted by two

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Speaker 32: suicide bombers. His visit to the country, which took place

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Speaker 32: over three days during the pandemic, was the first ever

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Speaker 32: to rite by a pope, and it did see a

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Speaker 32: massive and intense security operation. The year before there'd been

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Speaker 32: lots of infighting between Shea and Sunny Muslims, as well

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Speaker 32: as the persecution of religious minorities, so as you can imagine,

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Speaker 32: when he got there, the security operation was pretty huge. Now,

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Speaker 32: according to British intelligence, a plot was discovered in which

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Speaker 32: basically a woman was going to become a suicide bomber

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Speaker 32: and head towards Mosul to blow herself up d in

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Speaker 32: the papal visit, a van had also set off at

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Speaker 32: high speed with the same intention. It's being reported, so

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Speaker 32: this is the allegation. The British officials then told the

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Speaker 32: Iraqi police and then those two were intercepted and killed.

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Speaker 32: This according two excerpts from the autobiography coming up. Apparently,

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Speaker 32: the Pope asked the security official what had happened to

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Speaker 32: the would be attackers, and the official replied they are

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Speaker 32: no more. The Iraqi police intercepted them and blew them up.

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Speaker 32: The book is entitled Hope. It's published in mid January.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we'll all be getting copies of that.

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Speaker 2: Sounds fascinating. What about the former Archbishop of Canterbury George

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Speaker 2: Kerry who's resigned as a priest after allegations of sexual abuse.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, this is quite extraordinary. The Church of England here

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Speaker 32: is in disarray, would appear. So let me just go

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Speaker 32: back a bit so you'll know that the Archbishop of

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Speaker 32: Canterbury has resigned. He's stepping down on the sixth of January.

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Speaker 32: That was over the way in which he handled or

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Speaker 32: didn't handle allegations against a serial abuser, John Smythe He

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Speaker 32: had said that somebody's head must roll and it should

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Speaker 32: be his. But the report into the serial abuser John

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Speaker 32: Smith showed that he was the most prolific serial abuser

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Speaker 32: associated with the church and he could have been brought

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Speaker 32: to justice earlier if the Archbishop Justin Welby had reported

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Speaker 32: him to the police in twenty thirteen. So wellbeat resigns.

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Speaker 32: His temporary stand in is the Archbishop of York, Stephen Cottrel.

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Speaker 32: He is now being accused of not doing an off

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Speaker 32: over a sex abuse case as well. He allowed a

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Speaker 32: priest called David Tudor to stay in post despite knowing

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Speaker 32: that he had been banned by the church from being

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Speaker 32: alone with children and had already paid compensation to a

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Speaker 32: sexual abuse victim. So there's that going on. And now

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Speaker 32: we learn that the former Archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey,

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Speaker 32: has actually resigned as a priest. He said it had

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Speaker 32: been an honor to serve, having been practicing since nineteen

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Speaker 32: sixty two. He is eighty nine years old and was

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Speaker 32: named this month. And an investigation into a disgraced priest

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Speaker 32: who was found to have been barred by the church

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Speaker 32: from being alone with children and paid compensation to a

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Speaker 32: sexual victive sexual abuse victim. So I'm afraid the three

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Speaker 32: very high or two very high members of the current

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Speaker 32: Church of England and a former archbishop, all very very

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Speaker 32: quickly now having their reputations looked at, that this resignation

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Speaker 32: actually from becoming from being a priest is quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Certainly is in kiss Starmer the British Prime Minister. He's

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Speaker 2: in a spot of bother for looking about stingy again.

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Speaker 32: Yes, he's becoming known as the flip flop Prime Minister.

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Speaker 32: Saying one thing in opposition and another thing in government

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Speaker 32: sounds familiar, doesn't it. I think a lot of politicians

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Speaker 32: do that. But in this that's because women were hit

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Speaker 32: by changes to the state pension age. But not properly

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Speaker 32: informed about it, So three point six million women born

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Speaker 32: in the nineteen fifties were not properly informed of the

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Speaker 32: rise in state pension age to bring them into line

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Speaker 32: with men. So ages ago, back in the dawn of time,

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Speaker 32: women were receiving a state pension age at sixty and

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Speaker 32: men had to wait until they were sixty five. The

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Speaker 32: government decided to level this up. However they didn't fully

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Speaker 32: inform the women who were being leveled up, who were

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Speaker 32: suddenly being told, oh, no, you're not going to get

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Speaker 32: your pension immediately, you're going to get it in a

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Speaker 32: few years time, that they didn't inform them of what

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Speaker 32: would happen. So apparently some women decided to retire only

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Speaker 32: then to realize they weren't going to get a pension

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Speaker 32: payment for several more years than they had expected. And

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Speaker 32: at the time, in opposition the Labor Party, in Secure

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Speaker 32: Starmer said this is clearly an injustice and the recommendations

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Speaker 32: from the Ombusman was that each woman should receive roughly

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Speaker 32: four thousand New Zealand dollars in compensation. Now our Prime

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Speaker 32: Minister Kistarma is saying, yeah, it's not good, but actually,

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Speaker 32: do you know what we can't dish out money to everyone.

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Speaker 32: So he's being accused of hypocrisy and flip flocking there.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's always about how when you're in pairing and

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Speaker 2: that you've got no money, isn't it? Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for that. Gavin Gray, a UK correspondent out

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Speaker 2: of London, seven minutes away from seven. Just for those

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Speaker 2: who are interested in the memoir by the Pope, it

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Speaker 2: would be the first memoir written by a sitting pontiff.

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Speaker 2: It'll be published by a random house, I think it is.

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Speaker 2: And it looks at his roots back in Italian roots,

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Speaker 2: his ancestry, his immigration to Latin America, his childhood has

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Speaker 2: adaly since the whole gambit by the sounds of it.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. I would have thought you'd be

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Speaker 2: wanting people to read the Bible, but there you go.

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Speaker 2: Read my memoir.

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Speaker 1: Getting ready for it. You administration in the US, what

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Speaker 1: will be the impact? It's the Business Hour with hither

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Speaker 1: News talksb.

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Speaker 2: Just gone four minutes away from seven. On news talks,

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Speaker 2: heb Auckland Council is fixing the bridge. This is the

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Speaker 2: one that takes you from Silo Park across to wind

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Speaker 2: you'd quarter the big thing that moves. It's like one

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Speaker 2: of those robots, one of those transformers. That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to say. It's like a transformer. Anyway. They spent

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Speaker 2: ten million dollars fixing this bridge because it was broken.

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Speaker 2: It lets boats through, it goes up and down and

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Speaker 2: up and down, and then last Friday they finally opened.

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Speaker 2: It's been closed for most of the year and then

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Speaker 2: since then it's had to close twice to be fixed. Now,

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Speaker 2: instead of saying we're fixing new problems with the bridge,

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Speaker 2: they have used this phrase, which just bugs me, rectifying

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Speaker 2: minor teething issues. We're not fixing the bridge, We're rectifying

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Speaker 2: minor teething issues. So there you go with the bridges closed.

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Speaker 2: You know why. And also it's only opening at the

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Speaker 2: moment between seven thirty am and eleven thirty pm because

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Speaker 2: if something were to happen, they need someone obviously on

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Speaker 2: call to fix it. So that you go. Andy is

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Speaker 2: on with us today, Andy, what are we going out to?

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Speaker 2: We're going out with the Jonas brothers who have joined

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Speaker 2: the lineup for Dick Clark's New Year's Rock and Eve

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Speaker 2: with Ryan Secrets twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 14: Very American, but I always hear about it every year,

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Speaker 14: but ever watch it, But anyway, they're goodlining it with.

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Speaker 2: Rita Aura very good. Thanks Andy, Thanks everyone for listening to.

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