1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: A busy reporting season has just finished for the ins 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: and exlisted companies. We'll talk about the winners and the 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: losers from the last four weeks. Jeremy Hutton from Milfed 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Asset Management is with us right now. 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Hey, Jeremy, good evening, Heather, Hey, doing very well. 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. One of the big winners has got to 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: be A two Milk. 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, A two Milk. They had another bumper reporting season. 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Investors absolutely loved it. They sent the share price up 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: over twenty one percent in August alone, and the stock 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: is now up sixty percent so far year to date 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. The A two Milk story, it 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: really can be boiled down to the fact that the 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: company is doing really well in a tough market. And 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: we know Chinese birth rates have been declining for a 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: number of years and that is a substantial headwind for 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: infant formula players and A two as well to overcome. 18 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: But now by market share, A two is the fourth 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: biggest player in the massive Chinese infant formula market. It's 20 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: bigger than huge competitors like Nesley and me Johnson and 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: other large Chinese and Western brands as well. So A 22 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: two continue to perform really well in a tough market. 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Market really loved that transaction. That the purchase of the 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: plant in Poconoa. 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, So the acquisition of the local Ushiley 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: dairy plant and Pocono The markets got really excited about this. 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: Now it wasn't so much about the financials of the deal, 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: but more that the site comes with these extra China 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: market registrations and these are effectively a license to operate 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: your brand or product in the Chinese market. And A two. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: They currently only have one of these registered China label 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: products and it has been holding them back versus competitors, 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: they all have multiple products in the market. So they 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: get these two extra slots from the Pocono plant and 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: that means A two. You know, they can continue to grow, 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: bring out some new products and innovate and really de 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: risk the brand story a lot here. 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Okay, on the other side of the equation, what happened 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: with Ebos. 40 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ebos is a very tough start for the new CEO. 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: In his first update, the share price was down over 42 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: twenty percent, and this is very surprising for Eboss. It 43 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: is a great company. It's performed really well and always 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: consistently grows. Has done so over the past decade on 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: the nz X, but their forward guidance this time round 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: for the next financial year was for flat earnings and 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: the market got really caught off side by this. They 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: had to downgrade a lot of their outlooks for earnings. 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: But one could say it's a bit of a harsh 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: reaction as there is still confidence in the EBOS story. 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Their core businesses of Australian pharmacies and animal care products 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: are still growing reasoningly reasonably well medium term. But sometimes, 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: particularly when it's a new CEO in the chair, the 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: market can shoot first and ask questions later, particularly if 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: they get the framing or the pitch wrong. 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Now now that the Reserve Bank is leaning on reducing 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: the OCR, or what's the outlook for the rest of 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: the year, do you think. 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, supportive Reserve Bank and OCR interest rate track should 60 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: be positive for the New Zealand market. The local market 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: has lagged key pairs substantially this year, but we are 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: considered a defensive, yield driven market. We don't have the 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: racy tech or AI stocks like they do overseas. We've 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: got more solid high dividend payers like telecoms companies, infrastructure, 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: real estate and these should perform well in a falling 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: interest rate environment. And then secondly I'll just call out 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: also the cyclical sectors, which is sort of the next leg, 68 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: like construction companies, retail exposed companies. They've really had a 69 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: tough time as we know in New Zealand, but again 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: should start to perform better when some of the economic 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: activity and data starts to improve. 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Hey, Jeremy, thanks as always for talking us 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: through that. Jeremy Hutton, Milford Asset Management. For more from 74 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks. It'd 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on 76 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio