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Speaker 1: the full picture. Heather Dupericy Ellen, Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Former Speaker

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Speaker 3: David Carter on whether the Maori Party punishment was too harsh,

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Speaker 3: the Ukrainian ambassador on the news that Putin is snubbing

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Speaker 3: the meeting and should an overweight nine year old be

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Speaker 3: allowed to breach the rugby weight rules by nine kilograms

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Speaker 3: to play with his friends.

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Speaker 4: Heather Dupercy Ellen, Well.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like Jerry Brownlee doesn't think that the rather

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Speaker 3: thinks that the Mardy Party punishment is too harsh. He

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Speaker 3: started our parliament today with a speaker's ruling and he

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Speaker 3: dropped some pretty strong hints that he thinks that twenty

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Speaker 3: one days without pay for Debbie and Rawri over that

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Speaker 3: Hucker is too much. He called the punishment very severe

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Speaker 3: and unprecedented because up to now the harshest punishment has

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Speaker 3: on the Privileges Committee that going through with the punishment

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Speaker 3: as it stands, will deprive the Maori Party of their

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Speaker 3: ability to vote in the House for several sitting days,

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Speaker 3: and that Parliament does not have to go through with it.

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Speaker 3: He told them that you don't have to go through

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Speaker 3: with it. Parliament can change the punishment now. Can't say

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Speaker 3: I agree with them on this for one simple reason,

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Speaker 3: and that is deterrence. Whatever the punishment is going to

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Speaker 3: this stuff for what it is.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: This isn't like Julie Anjenta losing her rag in Parliament

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Speaker 3: The Maori Party break the rules deliberately. This is their strategy,

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Speaker 3: so you can assume that they will keep on doing it.

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Speaker 3: And the reason they keep on doing it is because

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Speaker 3: for doing a hukker in the house, attention for not

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Speaker 3: recommendations of the Privileges Committee, and the list just goes on.

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Speaker 3: This isn't about they say, this is about tea kung.

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Speaker 3: It's not about tea hunger. Sneakers are not tea hunger.

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Speaker 3: This is about breaking rules for attention. It's a pr strategy. Now,

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Speaker 3: three days without pay is not going to deter them.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't even know that twenty one

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Speaker 3: days without pay will deter them, but it surely has

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Speaker 3: a better chance of doing it. And for the record,

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Speaker 3: twenty one days suspension is not that wild in the UK,

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Speaker 3: three MPs in the UK have copped suspensions of thirty

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Speaker 3: I don't know that we will ever get order back

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Speaker 3: And so twenty one days in that context doesn't seem

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Speaker 3: Here's the text number standard text fees apply and as

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Speaker 3: I say David Carter on that after five o'clock now,

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Speaker 3: meth meth in the workplace is skyrocketing. According to new

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Speaker 3: figures from workplace testing company the Drug Detection Agency, in

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Speaker 3: January of this year, thirteen percent of workplace meth testing

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Speaker 3: jump to twenty five percent in March of this year. Now,

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Speaker 3: Glenn Dobson is the CEO of the Drug Detection Agency

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Speaker 3: and with us now, hey, Glenn, hi, Heather. Does it

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Speaker 3: follow that if you expand the testing to everyone, that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, potentially. I mean this is a snapshot of society.

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Speaker 3: Result shash twenty five percent. So what are we finding

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's all around the risk of impairment. And

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Speaker 7: Which is the scary part for how long does.

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Speaker 3: It deter someone's ability to do their work? You know,

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Speaker 3: like with booze, you booze the night before. Obviously when

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Speaker 7: But general terms, and this isn't an absolute black and

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Speaker 3: Oh so like if you're on the glass pipe for

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Speaker 3: five days, then you're going to have a come down

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, your body just can't a say it's

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Speaker 3: So do you think that more companies, given that it

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Speaker 7: I mean the traditional workplace drug testing environment is for

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Speaker 3: The I guys started drug testing? Just ask you for.

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Speaker 7: Certainly, healthcare is one industry that does do an amount

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, why is there a problem in central North Like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if the average is twenty five percent, these

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Speaker 3: Glenn, it's good to talk to you. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Glenn Dobson, the Drug Detection Agency CEO. Hither there hasn't

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Speaker 3: there has not been despicable actions of such magnitude before.

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Speaker 3: I would say. But what I can't think of another

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Speaker 3: Four eighteen Hello Darce. Hey, So Ryan Fox playing tonight?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, five past eleven. He tees off in a major.

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Speaker 9: He never thought he was going to plan, and extraordinarily

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Speaker 9: But Slim I was looking up online desperately trying. I

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Speaker 9: I tried to talk to a few golfers, but I

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you get on a run? Yeah yeah? Or

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Speaker 3: you get what Trump he likes to call the yips,

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Speaker 3: which is when you get that's.

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Speaker 9: Not a trumpy word. You know, that's a regular word,

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Speaker 9: the yips.

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Speaker 9: If we will see? But look, he does surprising things.

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Speaker 9: You don't get.

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Speaker 3: good luck Powell, good luck dealing with as you said. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Getting the facts, discarding with fluff.

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Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy Ellen, drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 3: Heather Lydia co carried momentum. She won the Olympic gold

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to David Carter, as I said,

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Speaker 3: former Speaker about it after five o'clock. Hey, also, Debbie's

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Speaker 1: At the heart of the story, it's hither duplicy Ellen

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks they'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: Turns out Putin is not going to go to that

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Speaker 13: Russia was the first one to push for these talks.

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Speaker 15: And we want to do the right thing.

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Speaker 3: And finally, police in Switzerland reckoned that a duck that

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: With US now Hey mus Good afternon Heather.

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Speaker 3: How's elbows? Meeting in Indonesia going.

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Speaker 2: Looks pretty from this distance. Anthony albnezy on his way

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you again. So look at the very

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Speaker 3: You're breaking up, mus you're breaking up terribly. So if

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Speaker 3: Are you at the golf course?

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Speaker 2: I'll speak slowly, and they look at an important election

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Speaker 3: Are you one of the people who are upset about

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Speaker 3: the idea of taking a veggiemite on toast and then

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Speaker 3: putting the dill and the paperka and the cheese.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't work for me? I say, I like, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm an old fashioned guy. Give me a nice bit

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Speaker 2: of toes, but lastings of it and veggiemite. I've been

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Speaker 2: known to top a poached egg on top of that,

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Speaker 2: which went going very well. Yeah, a little bit of

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Speaker 2: cheese on top, but you know, please, the next thing

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Speaker 2: you can be putting a starudine on there or mashed

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Speaker 2: up American what's wrong with you?

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Speaker 6: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you Philistein? This sounds absolutely delicious? Have you mask?

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Speaker 3: Dil is the most underrated herb out there? Don't you think?

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Speaker 2: No? I do you? And a lot of Australians hate

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Speaker 2: this guy too, an abomination, barbaric and international crime. Go

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Speaker 2: back to America.

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Speaker 3: So just a perfectly rational response from the Australians to that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Mas appreciated as always. Murray Old's Australia corresponding

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Speaker 3: here that that lady about delay, Like, don't you think

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Speaker 3: dill is underrated? You know, we just don't stick Dell

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Speaker 3: on enough stuff. I just looking for an excuse to

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Speaker 3: stick a Del on something nowadays. I mean like a

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Speaker 3: Dell on a salmon. You know that. You know, a

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Speaker 3: Dell on a bit of cream cheese, you know that.

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Speaker 3: But now you've just been given permission to put Dell

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Speaker 3: on your veg. You might go for it if you

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Speaker 3: can afford the deal.

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Speaker 16: I think del gets a bad rap heather, just because

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Speaker 16: it tastes horrible by itself. So it's all about like

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Speaker 16: what you mix it with, in my opinion, like it

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Speaker 16: can go well in some recipes and stira.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with us? No, dill is delicious by itself.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is, okay, but it's you and I mean,

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Speaker 3: what's your favorite?

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Speaker 16: For me and my little brother used to try and

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Speaker 16: trick each other into eating dill by itself because of

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Speaker 16: how old gross it.

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Speaker 3: Just give us a sense of where you sit on

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Speaker 3: the culinary spectrum. What's your favorite food?

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Speaker 16: Oh? Yeah, I go to KFC at least once.

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Speaker 3: Agin Okay, right, thank you? Hither that lady about overweight

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Speaker 3: kids are so so wrong Pacific Island kids mature so

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Speaker 3: much faster than white kids. So that was terribly unfair

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Speaker 3: to say that it's just diet, which actually is a

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Speaker 3: fair point because you can see it from a young age.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but my kids, my boys three at

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Speaker 3: his KINDI there is a boy that is four that

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Speaker 3: is tiny compared to him, and then there's a boy

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Speaker 3: that is five that's just gigantic for a five year old.

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Speaker 3: And you know, like they're all over the show. There's

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Speaker 3: none of them are kind of the same size, and

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Speaker 3: none of them are fat. None of these boys are fat.

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Speaker 3: They're just normal boys. They just grow differently, don't they.

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Speaker 3: It carries on the whole way through anyway. Listen, here,

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Speaker 3: here's your Debbie Nada Wapaka So Debbie. Debbie and Rahi

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Speaker 3: sat down with Julian at the HUEI and Debbie got

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Speaker 3: a little bit teary. You could just hear it. She

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Speaker 3: just got a bit triggered and a bit of a

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Speaker 3: cracking her voice. Just within the first sixty seconds or so.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, we've all sort of said, you know, we know

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Speaker 17: what it's going to be, we know how it's going

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Speaker 17: to land, but it's just so harmful and triggering when

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Speaker 17: so many of our people are doing so much to

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Speaker 17: get ahead.

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Speaker 3: Feels to me like somebody doesn't like losing about eleven

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Anyway, we'll talk about that next sixteen Away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Jason Woll's political editors with us. Now, Hey, Jason, hey, hmmmm,

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Speaker 3: So it sounds very much like Jerry thinks this is

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Speaker 3: too harsha.

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Speaker 18: It does sound like that, I mean, just to catch

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Speaker 18: people up. It was quite an unusual situation in the House.

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Speaker 18: Today's quite unprecedented. Unprecedented the recommendation that came from the

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Speaker 18: Privileges Committee, as outlined by Jerry Browne.

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Speaker 11: These punishments recommended by the Committee are very severe and

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Speaker 11: are unprecedented in this Parliament as far as I'm aware.

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Speaker 11: Since the House first met in eighteen fifty four, no

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Speaker 11: member who's been found guilty of contempt has been suspended

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Speaker 11: for more than three days.

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Speaker 18: Which is obviously quite a long time. And he goes

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Speaker 18: on to point out that a twenty one day suspension

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Speaker 18: for the co leaders was agreed to buy quite a

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Speaker 18: narrow margin within the Privileges Committee. Now, remember Tipati Marti

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Speaker 18: were giving given an opportunity to speak at said committee.

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Speaker 18: They did not. They instead called it a quote silly

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Speaker 18: little committee and did not appear worried at all about

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Speaker 18: its determinations. Despite this, the committee extended its deadline for

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Speaker 18: their determination, allowing Tea Party Mary the opportunity to submit.

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Speaker 18: Tea Party Mary then again declined, and when the recommendations

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Speaker 18: were being considered, Tea Party Mary then leaked them on

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Speaker 18: Facebook along with a poll asking supporters how long they

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Speaker 18: think the committee was going to suspend them for.

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Speaker 4: So in short, there was.

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Speaker 18: The opportunity for the party to respond, but Brownlee is

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Speaker 18: giving them yet another chance.

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Speaker 11: In particular, there's a long standing convention for speakers to

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Speaker 11: safeguard the fear treatment of the minority. Unteamed to honor

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Speaker 11: that convention by ensuring the House does not take a

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Speaker 11: decision next week without due consideration.

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Speaker 18: So therefore there's going to be a debate without a

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Speaker 18: time limit, when members who can speak for as long

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Speaker 18: as they like, can speak as many times as they

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Speaker 18: like on Tuesday. This is in budget week, by the way,

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Speaker 18: just letting you know. They can also try to pass

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Speaker 18: motions in a bid to challenge or change how long

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Speaker 18: the suspension is four i e. If a member wanted to,

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Speaker 18: they could move that the suspension be but for four

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Speaker 18: days rather than twenty one as I understand it now.

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Speaker 18: Speaking to the ruling was Shane Jones, who I think

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Speaker 18: makes quite a good point here.

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Speaker 19: You are expecting a wide ranging debate potentially involving the

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Speaker 19: three people who did not turn up to the Privileges Committee,

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Speaker 19: but who may very very well be in.

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Speaker 20: The house, you know.

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Speaker 18: And he's bang on.

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Speaker 21: I think.

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Speaker 18: Meanwhile, Ty party MATI have taken to the program the Hui,

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Speaker 18: where Debbie and Arawdi were both brought to tears when

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Speaker 18: they were discussing how this has affected them.

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Speaker 5: Country loves my Aca, the world loves Myoca.

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Speaker 6: Hmm, feels like they.

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Speaker 5: Don't love me.

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Speaker 18: Then Araldi had a crack at Judith Collins.

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Speaker 5: For who to label us as nothing should have been

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Speaker 5: kind of terroist in this place, you know, as the

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Speaker 5: unruly natives. And it's said the same Richard, when we

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Speaker 5: all phetically being ourselves.

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Speaker 18: But at the end of it, it was Judith Collins

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Speaker 18: who had the final word when asked if the twenty

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Speaker 18: one day punishment was too long.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure they'll think of that next time they

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Speaker 3: wished to behave like that.

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Speaker 20: And there we have it.

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Speaker 3: When he says that she's liken them to terrorists, what's

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Speaker 3: he referring.

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Speaker 18: To, No idea, She's never done that. To my knowledge,

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Speaker 18: it has never happened. I think he's putting words in

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Speaker 18: her mouth. That's just not something that the Attorney General

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Speaker 18: would say.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And when he's angry with brooker'sy over the sea bomb.

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Speaker 4: He's not happy.

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Speaker 6: But this is one of the lowest I've ever seen.

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Speaker 7: When you go to that sort of at tandem language,

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Speaker 7: nothing is beneath you after that.

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Speaker 11: Is it.

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Speaker 18: So we asked Broke about this today she said it

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Speaker 18: was rather odd. Now the Speaker has decided that he

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Speaker 18: was in fact wrong to allow the question yesterday, and

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Speaker 18: he was wrong to have and have not addressed the

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Speaker 18: use of the word in the house when it happened.

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Speaker 18: You all know the word that I'm referring to here,

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Speaker 18: And that's not the only walk back today. Have a

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Speaker 18: listen to what Chris Hepkins said just before going into

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Speaker 18: the house.

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Speaker 12: So, in so far is Ourt quoting from a rather

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Speaker 12: controversial comment yesterday meant that the Labour Party was contributing

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Speaker 12: to the distractions around that. I think we will own

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Speaker 12: that it would have been better if we had quoted

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Speaker 12: from something else rather than from that particular column.

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Speaker 18: So essentially they were wrong to do that. But this

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Speaker 18: is what Chippy said yesterday.

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Speaker 14: It's Gerin's primary Christian in the House today.

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Speaker 12: It's quote directly from an article that was published in

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Speaker 12: the paper.

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Speaker 15: A wildly criticized article.

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Speaker 9: People.

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Speaker 12: We live in a country of free.

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Speaker 18: Speech, so something is obviously gotten to Chris Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing that's got to Chris Hopkins is that

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Speaker 3: are backfired right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a big way, in a big way.

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Speaker 3: Hey, did you see I'm very excited to tell you

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Speaker 3: that there are going to be some people in the

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Speaker 3: budget lock up with us.

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Speaker 18: I knew you were going to bring this up as

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Speaker 18: soon as I saw it today.

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Speaker 3: Did you think, oh, no, here they come, these economists.

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Speaker 22: No, I'm going to teach them how to read that budget.

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Speaker 22: It doesn't Okay, you said on air the other day

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Speaker 22: you said I had a ba or bugger all or

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Speaker 22: something like that. Still remind you I do have I

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Speaker 22: do have an economics degree.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm about a reguted saying that about you because

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Speaker 3: it was a lie, then.

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Speaker 18: I do have some bear and listen. My argument was

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Speaker 18: never that I was going to sit there and say,

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Speaker 18: oh I know best, but rather than everybody else. My

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Speaker 18: argument was the first take on the numbers is just

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Speaker 18: a pure this is what it says in the budget,

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Speaker 18: and then we go to the CTU and then we

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Speaker 18: go to the Taxpayers Union for a reaction afterwards. That

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Speaker 18: was all I was saying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Jason Heather three days running, Jason Walls,

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Speaker 3: political editor News TI z'd be eight away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 23: The mass exodus continues, driven largely by Young New Zealanders's

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Speaker 23: University sociologist Paul spoonleive, you needed to see the New

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Speaker 23: Zealanders leaving tail off significantly, and it isn't, And then

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Speaker 23: that surely is a worry, if not a crisis.

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Speaker 11: Well it is.

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Speaker 8: And it looks as though that the part in New

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Speaker 8: Zealand is year on year is around seventy thousand.

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Speaker 2: It would be okay if we reach.

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Speaker 8: That seventy thousand in one year and it started to come.

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Speaker 2: Back, but it's not.

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Speaker 8: It's staying at that seventy thousand tiger And.

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Speaker 23: What worries me sick is the young people. We could

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Speaker 23: use a few to grow the country and make us

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Speaker 23: a little bit better than we currently are. Back tomorrow

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Speaker 23: at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida

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Speaker 23: News Talk z' b.

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Speaker 3: Heather, Jerry Browne has got to take some responsibility for

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Speaker 3: the deterioration in standards that he's presided over in the House. Look,

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Speaker 3: there are some who do make that argument. The argument

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Speaker 3: that I would make is that if he he has

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Speaker 3: very clearly directed the House to go softer on the

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Speaker 3: Maori Party, and if the House follows him in this

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Speaker 3: and then the Maori Party continue to behave like this,

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Speaker 3: and they have indicated that they will continue to behave

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Speaker 3: like this because they've got the problem with the Regulatory

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Speaker 3: Standards Bill. They're going to go go hard on that.

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Speaker 3: They're not sorry for. The Huka might do it again.

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Speaker 3: If it keeps on happening, then it is Jerry's fault

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Speaker 3: because he's told the House to go a little bit softer.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the budget lockups so happy to report to you

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Speaker 3: they are all in taxpayers, Union, infrastructure, new Zealand Business

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Council of Trade Unions. This morning Council of

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Speaker 3: Trade Unions were told that they were allowed in, but

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Speaker 3: Craig Renny, their economist, was not allowed in. But then

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Speaker 3: everybody changed their mind and they said Craig Renny's allowed in.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to take some responsibility, by the way, for this.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to say it's because of all the song

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Speaker 3: and dance we made about it, but probably it's like

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Speaker 3: a tiny bit of truth. But probably it's really the

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Speaker 3: legal action that this threshong guide a Tastles union. So

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Speaker 3: there you go, a little bit of law fair. I

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Speaker 3: love it. Okay, Now listen Concerts. We've spent a lot

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Speaker 3: of time talking about concerts on the show, because you know,

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Speaker 3: there have been quite a few concerts going on in

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Speaker 3: this fine town of ours, in Auckland and the country

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Speaker 3: of ours. Somebody has on the internet compiled a list

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Speaker 3: of the most most value for money concerts that you

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Speaker 3: can go to and the least value for money concerts

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Speaker 3: you can go to. I'm going to run you through

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Speaker 3: some of this so that we can inform your decisions

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Speaker 3: on an economic basis. Lana Dalray, you do not want

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Speaker 3: to go to Lana Dalray will give you fifteen tracks

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Speaker 3: for eighty three minutes, which means you are paying per

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Speaker 3: song sixteen dollars. Lady, she's the worst, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Lady Gaga's a little bit better. She's got the Mayhem

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Speaker 3: Ball Tour on it. The moment. She's about fourteen dollars

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Speaker 3: per song. But but this is us dollars, by the way,

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Speaker 3: so don't get excited to think it. Well, bargain, bargain,

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Speaker 3: that's that's about a block of cheese. No, it's a

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Speaker 3: lot more than that's a two blocks of cheese. What

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Speaker 3: what Gaga's doing is she's doing a longer concert, right,

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Speaker 3: so you are going to get like it's it's slightly

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Speaker 3: cheaper than a Lana del Rey, but you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: more songs and you're gonna get a longer time.

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Speaker 21: Who's this Lana del Rey?

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Speaker 12: Look?

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Speaker 3: And this is free. This is better than going to

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Speaker 3: a Lana concert. I just play it to you. You

704
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Speaker 3: don't have to pay me. Beyonce's next up, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: give you beyond those details, and then I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: to Oasis, and then I'm gonna get to the value

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Speaker 3: for moneya wait for it. We'll deal with that in

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Speaker 3: the next half hour, some time.

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Speaker 1: Digging through the smith spens to find the real story

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Speaker 1: storing It's heather due for the on drive with One

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Speaker 1: New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be afternoon. Speaker Jerry Browne has suggested that he

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Speaker 3: thinks the Marvey Party MPs are being punished too harshly.

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Speaker 3: He said, no one's ever been suspended from Parliament for

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Speaker 3: twenty one days. The max thus far is three. It's

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Speaker 3: very severe and unprecedented to be punished like this, and

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Speaker 3: he's recommended Parliament that it doesn't was reminded rather Parliament

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Speaker 3: that it doesn't have to do what the Privileged Committee says,

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Speaker 3: but can actually change the punishment. David Carter is the

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Speaker 3: former Speaker of the House. David, Hello, Hi, Are you

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Speaker 3: surprised he said this?

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Speaker 24: Yes, I am. His job was to send it to

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Speaker 24: the Select Committee, to the Privileges Committee, which is the

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Speaker 24: most powerful Select committee in Parliament. His job then, in

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Speaker 24: my mind, is to report the findings of the Select Committee.

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Speaker 24: I'm surprised that he'd make the comments of the Airs.

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Speaker 3: Any any idea what would have come over him?

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Speaker 24: Well, he obviously thinks the penalties are too severe. If

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Speaker 24: I'd been there, I would probably have argued that the

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Speaker 24: penalties weren't severe enough. Why but Jerry's job is to

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Speaker 24: report it back to Parliament and for Parliament now to

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Speaker 24: decide whether to accept the select Committee report.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think they're not harsh enough?

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Speaker 24: I've never seen behavior like this. The standards of Parliament

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Speaker 24: are dropping significantly. We used to have a democracy that

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Speaker 24: we're proud of. But when you rewatch what happened in

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Speaker 24: that Harker and the intimidating behavior of those the co

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Speaker 24: leaders of the Barley Party, that is unacceptable. And then

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Speaker 24: to refuse to appair before the Privileges Committee again is

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Speaker 24: yet another contempt of the rules of Parliament.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that precedent is a consideration here? Not

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Speaker 3: just what they've done, but the suggestion that they are

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Speaker 3: going to do it again or rather deterras consideration? Do

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is it a consideration? Do you need to punish them

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Speaker 3: haigh enough to stop them doing it again?

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Speaker 24: I think that's why the Privileges Committee has ruled that

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Speaker 24: the penalty should be where they are. Bear in mind

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Speaker 24: the Mardi Party and the Green Party on that Privileges

752
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Speaker 24: Committee would argue that there has been no contempt. Labor

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Speaker 24: did acknowledge that there has been contempt by the actions

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Speaker 24: of these two members of Parliament. Their only argument is

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Speaker 24: that the penalty is too severe. The Privileges Committee is

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Speaker 24: made up that represents the composition of Parliament, so the

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Speaker 24: majority of them, without doubt accepted contempt occurred. The only

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Speaker 24: argument now is the severity of the penalty.

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Speaker 3: David, do you think I mean there's some argument coming

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Speaker 3: through on the text machine that Jerry needs to take

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Speaker 3: responsibility for the standards in the House because actually quite

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Speaker 3: a lot has happened under him. We've had Julian Genter's behavior,

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Speaker 3: We've had the sea bomb, we've had the hacker. Is

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Speaker 3: he to blame for any of this?

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Speaker 24: It's very difficult to be the speaker. You've got to

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Speaker 24: make decisions which are instant. I think the standards have

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Speaker 24: dropped considerably and Jerry, therefore, as Speaker has a responsible

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Speaker 24: to lift those standards again. He had an opportunity with

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Speaker 24: the penalties that have been passed out by the Privilegies Committee.

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Speaker 24: I'm surprised that he would choose then to criticize him

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Speaker 24: so soon after the reports tabled in Parliament.

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Speaker 3: David, thank you for your time, always appreciated. This is

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Speaker 3: David Carter, the former Speaker. As I said earlier, Debi

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Speaker 3: Nardi were Packer and the Idytt have given an interview

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Speaker 3: to the HUI. They say they're not sorry for the Huckett,

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Speaker 3: which is the thing that they're in trouble for, and

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Speaker 3: they would do it again.

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Speaker 15: We are not sorry for what we did, but we

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Speaker 15: understand that the impacts over the next twenty one days

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Speaker 15: is going to be felt because the Regulatary Standards Bill

781
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Speaker 15: is one of the most destructive and dangerous bills I

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Speaker 15: have ever seen and this country will ever see. It's intentionally,

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Speaker 15: it's deliberate. This is taken nearly six months to get

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Speaker 15: to this, and they've taken us out before budget, and

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Speaker 15: they've taken us out before the Regulatary Standards.

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Speaker 3: Bill to eleven past five.

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Speaker 4: Heither dupless Ladimir Putin will.

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Speaker 3: Not be turning up to the meeting with Ukraine' Vladimir

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Speaker 3: Zelensky for peace talks tonight. That means Donald Trump will

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Speaker 3: now also not come. Vassel Maarashnichenko is the Ukrainian ambassador

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Speaker 3: to the New Zealand vessel Hello.

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Speaker 21: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Its meeting is pointless now, isn't it?

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Speaker 6: It is?

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Speaker 25: Look I mean yeah. The whole point is that, as

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Speaker 25: you have seen out of over the weekend, four leaders

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Speaker 25: of four countries Britain, France, Germany and Poland came to

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Speaker 25: Ukraine and they have made a joint statement. They also

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Speaker 25: had a phone call with President Trump and they made

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Speaker 25: a clear statement demanding from Russia and immediate unconditional ceasefire.

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Speaker 25: And Russians have not accepted the ceasefire. More So, starting

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Speaker 25: from March eleventh, Ukraine agreed for a ceasefire which was

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Speaker 25: proposed by American President Donald Trump, and Russia never agreed

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Speaker 25: to any ceasefire. So we clearly see that Russia is

805
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Speaker 25: not interested in peace. Russia is interesting in continuing to

806
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Speaker 25: wage war. Russia is interesting in continuing to kill Ukrainians,

807
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Speaker 25: kill our children, kill.

808
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Speaker 4: Rape the women. So what happens hospitals?

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Speaker 3: What happens next? Vestal, Like, what is it going to take?

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Speaker 3: If everybody's pending their hopes on this meeting, So what happens?

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Speaker 25: So the only way to force Russia inter negotiations is

812
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Speaker 25: to further isolate Russia, impose most sanctions on Russia, provide

813
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Speaker 25: more defense assistance to Ukraine, and take over the immobilized

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Speaker 25: Russian assets which are three hundred billion dollars which are

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Speaker 25: currently primarily in Europe, in America and some other jurisdictions

816
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Speaker 25: for the support of Ukraine. That's the only way how

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Speaker 25: we can actually exert pressure on Russia to start negotiations

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Speaker 25: in good faith. For now, Russians will pretend negotiating, They

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Speaker 25: will pertain and they want peace, but they will continue

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Speaker 25: waging the war. You have to keep in mind it's

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Speaker 25: summer now in Ukraine. Therefore, Russians are currently on the

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Speaker 25: overdrive there, you know, as they say it in Australia

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Speaker 25: Battle Metal. So they are in full and trying to advance.

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Speaker 25: They are gaining gradually some ground, not much, but at

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Speaker 25: a huge expense, at a huge cost. But they are

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Speaker 25: out there and there is no motivation for them to

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Speaker 25: stop anytime soon. They still are on their main objective

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Speaker 25: of the war, and the main objective of the war

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Speaker 25: is to take over entire country.

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Speaker 3: Vassil, thanks very much, good luck with everything. Really appreciate

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Speaker 3: your time. Vassel Murashi Ychenko, the Ukrainian Ambassador to New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: I ever do for cl You're not imagining it.

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Speaker 3: If you're thinking things at the grocery store getting a

834
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Speaker 3: bit expensive. They are going up again. Food price is

835
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Speaker 3: three point seven percent in the last year, and you're

836
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Speaker 3: not imagining it if you're looking at the butter and

837
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Speaker 3: thinking what the hell happened there? Butter has gone up

838
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Speaker 3: big time, up sixty five percent. That's just in a year.

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Speaker 3: Milk up fifteen percent, cheese twenty four percent. The average

840
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Speaker 3: price for a block of butter is now about seven

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Speaker 3: dollars fifty. There's nearly three dollars more expensive than it

842
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Speaker 3: was round about this time last year, so maybe like

843
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Speaker 3: four dollars fifty ish and now it's seven dollars fifty.

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Speaker 3: Instant coffee is weirdly gone up in price, that's up

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Speaker 3: twenty one percent. Average cost is now about eight dollars

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Speaker 3: twenty ish per hundred grams. And on the air tickets,

847
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Speaker 3: because I know we're all excited about them, international airfares

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Speaker 3: went up twenty five percent just last month compared to

849
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Speaker 3: the month before. Just April. What happened in April school holidays,

850
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Speaker 3: Easter Long Weekend and Zach Long weekend fourteen past five. Hey,

851
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Speaker 3: digital scams aren't a joke, right, and it is really

852
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Speaker 3: important that we take these things seriously. There's a new

853
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Speaker 3: story in the media basically every day about increasingly cunning

854
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Speaker 3: scammers taking advantage of vulnerable kiwis. So what's happened is

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Speaker 3: A and Z has partnered up with Age Concerned New

856
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Speaker 3: Zealand and they are encouraging all kiwis to be on

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Speaker 3: patrol for scams. And they are not alone because they

858
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Speaker 3: have from the hit eighty show Chips. If you recall

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Speaker 3: officers Frank Poncherello and John Baker, who are bringing old

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Speaker 3: school justice to modern day scams. Now, this is a

861
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Speaker 3: nationwide invitation to ride along while also learning how to

862
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Speaker 3: be more conscious and aware of scammers. And we can

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Speaker 3: all do with a bit of that, can't we. What

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Speaker 3: does this mean? Remember you have the right to ask

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Speaker 3: questions when contacted by someone, Be cautious of too good

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Speaker 3: to be true investments, hang up on anyone asking for

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Speaker 3: an urgent transfer of money, and of course, be suspicious

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Speaker 3: of unexpected communication. Test to scam knowledge on A and

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Speaker 3: Z's Scam Academy web page at AMZ dot co. Dot

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Speaker 3: Z forward slash scams.

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Speaker 4: Ever duper clen.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen past five now rugby the nine year old. So

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Speaker 3: the nine year old Auckland boy, he's from Counties Mancal

874
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Speaker 3: has been told he can't play rugby in the same

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Speaker 3: grade as his friends because he's too heavy. This is

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Speaker 3: the county's Mancau club competition. He's fifty four CAGs but

877
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Speaker 3: the year four grade has a weight limit of forty

878
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Speaker 3: five CAGs. Now, Kevin part is a rugby commentator and

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Speaker 3: with us Now, hey.

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Speaker 8: Kevin, good afternoon, Heather.

881
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: Aparently it's unsafe if they made the right call.

882
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 8: Look, it's not unnecessarily about the right call. They've got

883
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Speaker 8: systems in place to try and look after safety. There's

884
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Speaker 8: just as many of the kids that are on the

885
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Speaker 8: other end of the scale that parents are going, well,

886
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Speaker 8: my little lad's not playing if it's not going to

887
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 8: be a safe game. So they've got to have some

888
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 8: sort of bandwidth. I guess the argument is where does

889
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Speaker 8: that go? Is a couple of cag's forgivable. But if

890
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 8: i'm you know, I was one of those skinny little

891
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Speaker 8: guys that was sort of around thirty five kg's playing

892
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Speaker 8: against the fifty five I imagine mum would have been a

893
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Speaker 8: little bit concerned as well.

894
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Speaker 3: Does I mean if you've if you've got a weight

895
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Speaker 3: limit of forty five, so that's the uppermost right, So

896
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Speaker 3: as you say, there might be thirty five little boys

897
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Speaker 3: and like thirty five kg duds in there, yep, is

898
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Speaker 3: that going to make a difference that extra nine cag's

899
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Speaker 3: above the limit?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 21: Look it does.

902
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Speaker 8: Around safety. You've seen what's happening, not just at the

903
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Speaker 8: baby level that we're talking about at professional level. Safety

904
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Speaker 8: is the key thing. You know that they've actually taken

905
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Speaker 8: away tackle from they had. They had rip a rugby

906
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Speaker 8: going for years. So please, we're talking now about an

907
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Speaker 8: exclusion of an individual. They are trying to save the

908
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Speaker 8: game as it is at the moment, So I can

909
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Speaker 8: understand if they had not given alternative or some sort

910
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 8: of compromise, then you could have a real moan about it.

911
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Speaker 8: But they said, well, hey, play up a great Mum

912
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 8: said no, that's not good enough, my lad, And.

913
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Speaker 4: She's well within her rights.

914
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Speaker 8: Well I'll tell you what, in which case, go play

915
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 8: football for a year, get some good skills, come back

916
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Speaker 8: and better be.

917
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Speaker 4: A better rugby player.

918
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Speaker 8: But if she had no other options then it would

919
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Speaker 8: have been a little bit unfair.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Kevin. I really appreciate it. Thank you very

921
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: much for your time. That's Kevin part Rugby commentator. Hither

922
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Speaker 3: of the Maori Party are worried about being represented in parliament?

923
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: How many days of sitting did they not turn up

924
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Speaker 3: to in the last year. This is a very fair

925
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: point from Glen, isn't it, Because they let's just put

926
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Speaker 3: it like this, They're probably not going to miss the

927
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Speaker 3: time in parliament because you actually have to be in

928
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Speaker 3: parliament to miss your time in parliament. But what they

929
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Speaker 3: might be missing is the pay packet. And we've done

930
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Speaker 3: a bit of a rough calculation and it works out

931
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Speaker 3: for three weeks at about eleven thousand dollars, So that

932
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Speaker 3: is going to sting five to twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Checking the point of the story, it's Heather Duplicy elan

934
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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and use dogs.

935
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Speaker 3: That'd be twenty three past five. By the way, Chris

936
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Speaker 3: Hopkins is going to be with us on the C

937
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Speaker 3: word and whether they're going to overturn the pay equity changes,

938
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Speaker 3: and he'll be with us after the headlines. I've got

939
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Speaker 3: to talk about the public sector union. This is the

940
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Speaker 3: union for public servants. I have no words for what

941
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Speaker 3: they're doing at the moment. I cannot believe that they're

942
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Speaker 3: genuinely planning to argue to the Employment Relations Authority that

943
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Speaker 3: public servants should be allowed to work from home because

944
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Speaker 3: it is better for women to work from home because

945
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Speaker 3: women disproportionately hold the family care responsibilities. I mean, just

946
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Speaker 3: follow the logic of this, Okay, just follow the logic.

947
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Speaker 3: They are arguing that public service women should be allowed

948
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Speaker 3: to work from home so that they can also, while

949
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Speaker 3: working from home, look after the kids, look after the

950
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Speaker 3: elderly parents, iron the husband's shirts, do the dishes, do

951
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Speaker 3: the laundry, mop the floors, cook the dinner. It goes

952
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Speaker 3: without saying, first of all, obviously, taxpayers do not pay

953
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Speaker 3: these women to be able to work while doing all

954
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Speaker 3: their family jobs. That's not what we're paying for. But actually,

955
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Speaker 3: to the more important point, I can't believe that the

956
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: PSA is seriously arguing that people need to women need

957
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: to work from home so that they can keep on

958
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: doing this stuff. It's like they're trying to keep women

959
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Speaker 3: in the kitchen. It's nuts. Women have fought you know,

960
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 3: don't forget. Women have fought for a very long time

961
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: to be considered equals in the modern workplace. Do not

962
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: have to do the lion's share of what happens at home,

963
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: to not have to be the only ones who do

964
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Speaker 3: post birth maternity care. We want to share this stuff

965
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Speaker 3: with guys. We want to be CEOs like men, We

966
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: want to be paid like men, we want to be

967
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: respected like men. But this does the complete opposite. What

968
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: this does is it leaves men in the office and

969
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: then takes the women back to the home. Yeah, you

970
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: can still do your job, but you've got to stay

971
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: at home as well and all the other stuff. Doing this,

972
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Speaker 3: I think, for this reason is a gigantic step backwards

973
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Speaker 3: for women. It's either that or it's suspicious argument from

974
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Speaker 3: the PSA, and I don't know which of the two

975
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Speaker 3: it is. And frankly, I think it's actually surprising that

976
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: they would go public with this. I mean, this is

977
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 3: a union that claims it has been advocating for women's

978
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Speaker 3: rights since nineteen thirteen, but now it's advocating for women

979
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: to be able to do their jobs and everything else

980
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Speaker 3: at home. You know what, I really hope that the

981
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Speaker 3: strong and ballsy and ambitious women of the public sector.

982
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: See this for what it is, which is taking us

983
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: back to the kitchen. Reject this and choose not to

984
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Speaker 3: go back to the kitchen ever. Do see Allen, I've

985
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 3: got to read you. Okay. So this is the book

986
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: about Biden, right, everybody's been waiting for this book about

987
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: Biden by the CNN journalist Jake Tapper and also the

988
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: Axios reporter Alex Thompson, and bits of it have been

989
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: coming out. We'll get a load of this, okay. So

990
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Speaker 3: there's an extrac which talks about that fundraiser that happened

991
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: in June last year in the lead up to the

992
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 3: presidential election where he Clooney was and remember it became

993
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: a big thing and Clooney wrote the big oldp ed

994
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: after that and blah blah blah. Anyway, it comes in.

995
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: The president comes in. This is Biden comes in from

996
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: the G seven in Italy and looks quote diminished. The

997
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: book quotes an unnamed Hollywood identity who watched as Biden

998
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: greeted guests at the shindig. It was like watching someone

999
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: who was not alive. The person said, it was startling,

1000
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: and we all looked at each other. It was so awful.

1001
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: Biden gave Clooney, who he knew very well, by the way,

1002
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Speaker 3: gave Clooney the same generic greeting that he'd given everybody,

1003
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: which was thank you for being here. Clearly didn't recognize Clooney.

1004
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: So his aide says, you know, George, and he goes yeah, yeah,

1005
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: and this sort of has this generic conversation with them

1006
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: clearly not recognizing George at all. It seemed clear to

1007
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: those involved in the encounter that Biden had not recognized Clooney,

1008
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Speaker 3: one of the world's most famous people, writes Jake Tapper

1009
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Speaker 3: and Thompson. Biden's aid offers a further prompt and says

1010
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: George Clooney, at which point Biden finally realizes who he's

1011
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: talking to and starts talking to George Clooney. And remember

1012
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: this whole time, this whole time, the White House is saying,

1013
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: he's totally fine, nothing to worry about. It's totally not

1014
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: Gaga at all. There you go, Okay, Beyonce. Beyonce is

1015
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: the top third least value for money concert. This is

1016
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: the Cowboy Concert, Cowboy Canter Concert. If you go along,

1017
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: you're paying thirteen dollars sixty three a track. Some of

1018
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: that is because the seats are very expensive. It's average

1019
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: of about four hundred and ninety one dollars per seat

1020
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: American more to company.

1021
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: If this who man.

1022
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Heather first.

1023
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

1024
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: get connected news talk.

1025
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: Sa'd be having to have.

1026
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: Value, well said Heather is one of them sister female types.

1027
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: I feel like my gender is being politicized. Oh honey,

1028
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 3: it's been going on for a long time now.

1029
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 21: Own.

1030
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: Hey, Rod Duke of Briscos is going to be with

1031
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: us after six. They're earned something really cool. They because

1032
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: you know, a Brisco store is a big old thing,

1033
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 3: but they're going to set up a bunch of mini Briscoes.

1034
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: And I am here for that. The world does not

1035
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: have enough Briscos. We need more. So he's with us

1036
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: after six in the huddle, standing by. First of all though,

1037
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: and by the way, it's twenty four away from six.

1038
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: First of all, though, it's been a bit of a

1039
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: day for Jerry Browne, hasn't it. Not only has the

1040
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: speaker indicated he thinks the Marty party punishment is too harsh.

1041
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: But he also said he should not have allowed Labor

1042
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: to ask the question that led to Brook van Valden

1043
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: dropping the sea bomb yesterday. Chris Hipkins is the Labor leader.

1044
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 12: Hey, Chippy, how are you?

1045
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: As Jerry Wright? He shouldn't have let it go.

1046
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he's probably right on both counts. I

1047
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 12: think we probably both the question and the answer probably

1048
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 12: shouldn't have been allowed. What you know. I mean, ultimately,

1049
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 12: I'm all for robust debate, but probably the column in

1050
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 12: question sort of crossed the line in parliamentary terms. I'm

1051
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 12: not going to form a judgment in terms of what

1052
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 12: editorial decisions newspapers should make, but Parliament does have to

1053
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 12: set a standard and and hold itself to that standard.

1054
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Chippy, you don't have to You

1055
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: don't have to make a call on editorial standards, but

1056
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: surely you can make a call on whether you think

1057
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: it's okay to attack women with a gendered slur like that,

1058
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 3: Like that's not.

1059
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 12: Okay, certainly not language that I would use. But having

1060
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Speaker 12: said that, the journalist in question is a woman with

1061
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Speaker 12: a long history of feminist advocacy, and I'm not going

1062
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 12: to tell you what we do bs.

1063
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Speaker 3: Women can be women haters too. I mean, okay, so

1064
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: are you telling me so? Just say this so that

1065
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: I completely understand exactly what your position is on this.

1066
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: You think it's okay for senior female cabinet ministers to

1067
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: be called the sea word.

1068
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 12: That's not what I've said, and I've said it's not

1069
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Speaker 12: language that I would use. I've just said that I'm

1070
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 12: not going to start making newspaper editorial decisions for them.

1071
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 12: But I have said us not language that I would use,

1072
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 12: and I don't think it should have been used in

1073
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Speaker 12: the House, and I don't think we should have quote

1074
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 12: it from the same article in the House.

1075
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Speaker 3: My problem with your position on this is because you

1076
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: went like over the top defending just Cinda anytime somebody

1077
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Speaker 3: sneezed something that nasty and direction, So why would you

1078
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: not defend other women too?

1079
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 12: Well, I will, and you know where I think that

1080
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 12: that's appropriate. But in this okay, let me an, it's

1081
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 12: a newspaper editorial decision, So.

1082
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 3: Okay, put it like, Okay, let's say that I in

1083
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: my Sunday start, in my Sunday column on the Herald

1084
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: on Sunday writes something horrendous about one of your MP's

1085
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: and call them the sea bomb. Do you think that's

1086
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: going to be okay?

1087
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 12: Look, you're asking me a hypothetical question without seeing what

1088
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 12: you're right. No, I'm not going to fall a judgment

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Speaker 12: or something that I have any.

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Speaker 3: The thing is no, of course it wouldn't. It wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be okay, Nor is this okay? This is what you

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Speaker 3: said in twenty twenty three. There is no question Unfortunately

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Speaker 3: women in leadership positions, women in politics, but women and

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Speaker 3: other leadership positions are the subject of far more abuse

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Speaker 3: and vitriol than men. I think we have a responsibility

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Speaker 3: as men to stand up, to step up and condemn

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Speaker 3: that and speak out against it.

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Speaker 12: That was you, yes, and I stand by that state.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Now, are you going to reverse the changes that the

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Speaker 3: NATS are the coalition government is doing to the pay

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Speaker 3: equity legislation.

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Speaker 12: I've said yes, we will, but let's be clear, that

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Speaker 12: doesn't necessarily mean going back to the law exactly as

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Speaker 12: it was and starting the clock all over again. So

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Speaker 12: one of the reasons we can't, well, one of the

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Speaker 12: reasons we can't be more specific because I think the

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Speaker 12: last thing that we want to do is if we

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Speaker 12: get eighteen months down of the track and those women

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Speaker 12: have started their whole process again, they're further along the process.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to do to them what the National

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Speaker 12: Party's just done, which has changed the law, and basically

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Speaker 12: start the clock all over again.

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Speaker 3: No, but you wouldn't have to You wouldn't have to

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Speaker 3: start the clock again, would you, Jippy, because the thing

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Speaker 3: is you would be more lenient. Therefore they could simply

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Speaker 3: progress with their claims as they were. You don't have

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Speaker 3: to stop the claims. You don't have to be you

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Speaker 3: don't have to be retrospective. You can change it without

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Speaker 3: being retrospective. Would you do that?

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Speaker 12: But that's exactly the point. So yes, But that doesn't

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Speaker 12: mean a direct reversal of the law change that the

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Speaker 12: government have made, so basically, I mean maybe I'm getting

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Speaker 12: hung up on the technicalities of parliament. We're not directly

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Speaker 12: repealing the law, but we will put the situation back

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Speaker 12: that women can claim what they were able to claim previously.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you will take it back to sixty percent

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Speaker 3: workforces women.

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Speaker 12: That's correct, because why should the secondary school teachers not

1130
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Speaker 12: be able to claim equity the primary school teachers.

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Speaker 3: Care and you would take it back to the setting

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Speaker 3: where they're able to use the comparators that exist at

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Speaker 3: the moment.

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Speaker 12: That is correct, because actually, if the government doesn't like

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Speaker 12: the comparators that are being used, it can negotiate different comparatives.

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Speaker 3: The librarians comparing themselves to.

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Speaker 12: Again, well, but that's not the point because.

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Speaker 3: Aviation workers, I don't have them all memory would you

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00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: allow that?

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Speaker 12: But job title is not the issue. That the value

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00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 12: of the work is the issue, because otherwise you get

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Speaker 12: a situation under the current law that the government have

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Speaker 12: now passed, where women will be comparing their jobs to

1144
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Speaker 12: even less relevant roles. So under the current law, for example,

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Speaker 12: the only available comparator for someone like an aged care

1146
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Speaker 12: worker is a gardener. That's the law that the current

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00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 12: the government have just passed.

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Speaker 3: Now, that doesn't sound outrageous to me, Chippy, Why is that.

1149
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 12: Outrageous because you're talking about different levels of qualification.

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Speaker 3: What is the qualification required to be an aged care worker?

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Speaker 12: But that's not my judgment to make.

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00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 3: That's fine, zero qualification required to be an age care worker,

1153
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: just like there is zero qualification required to be a gardener.

1154
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: That seems fair to me.

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Speaker 12: The whole point of the pay equity process. As you

1156
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Speaker 12: go through each of the jobs that you want to

1157
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Speaker 12: compare line by line, you look at the level of

1158
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 12: skill required, You look at the level of qualification required.

1159
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Speaker 12: You look at the working hours, you look at the

1160
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 12: working conditions, You look at all of those things to

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Speaker 12: make sure that you are comparing like with like, even if,

1162
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Speaker 12: even if the work being done is different. You make

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Speaker 12: sure you are comparing jobs that are comparable work of

1164
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Speaker 12: comparable value. And I think that's the key point here

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Speaker 12: because in some many of these female dominated professions, there

1166
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Speaker 12: aren't male dominated comparators that look will sound the same.

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Speaker 12: That's the point.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Chippy, thank you, I appreciate your time. It's Chris Hopkins,

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Speaker 3: Labor Leader, nineteen away from six the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Find You're.

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Speaker 3: One of a kind in the huddle with us Fillow

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Speaker 3: Raley of Iron Duke Partners and Ali Jones of read

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Speaker 3: pr Hell Are you two hi?

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Speaker 4: Ever? Right? So?

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Speaker 3: Phil? What do you reckon? Is the punishment for the

1176
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Speaker 3: Mary Party? Bang on too harsh or not harsh enough?

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Speaker 21: Well, if that's what they came up with, and so

1178
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 21: therefore I agree with it. Here's the point though, the

1179
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 21: reason it's so harsh is not only did they not

1180
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 21: only do they stop a vote in the Parliament in

1181
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Speaker 21: a pretty a pretty dramatic sort of way, then they

1182
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Speaker 21: didn't really engage. They never apologized that they were really

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Speaker 21: engaged in the process. And another thing, the whole thing's racist.

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Speaker 21: And let me give you a comparator. If I go

1185
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 21: on to Rye, then I'm expected to follow Mariy protocol

1186
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Speaker 21: and by the way, I absolutely do, and I support

1187
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Speaker 21: that idea. It's a fantastic idea. If I want to

1188
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Speaker 21: change that, I don't just walk in and abuse it

1189
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Speaker 21: and say, well, I don't if you comply with those rules,

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Speaker 21: because it was my particular my particular ethnicity. So if

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Speaker 21: the Mary Party wants to get changes in protocol and Parliament,

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Speaker 21: and I think they've got a very good chase, a

1193
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Speaker 21: very good case to do that, ye, then they need

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Speaker 21: to work through that process in a constructive way. And

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Speaker 21: that's why I think the punishments so harsh, and that's

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Speaker 21: why why you findmentally agree with it.

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Speaker 9: Ali Ah, I'm kind of over it.

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Speaker 26: But do you think that compara it is the new

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Speaker 26: C word here that I'm just beginning to wonder because

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Speaker 26: it seems to be used a lot. Look, I can

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Speaker 26: understand what phillis saying that there are rules they should

1202
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Speaker 26: be adhered to. If they want to change them, there's

1203
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Speaker 26: a process to go through. But the other thing too

1204
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 26: is how do we keep politics interesting and energetic and

1205
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Speaker 26: passionate but not an anarchy. And it's those it's that

1206
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Speaker 26: fine line or that line between those two things that

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Speaker 26: I think we need to look at. But yeah, look,

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Speaker 26: I think I do think it was a little harsh.

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Speaker 26: I think they probably be made an example of. And

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Speaker 26: I think it's a little harsh because it would have

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Speaker 26: to be for Jerry to suggest that. I mean I've

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Speaker 26: worked with him over the years with the earthquake recovery

1213
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Speaker 26: in christ Church, and yeah, for Jerry Browny to say

1214
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 26: he thought it was a little harsh as.

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Speaker 3: Very ali Maybe he softened in his old age. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. You obviously don't know, Jerry.

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Speaker 21: You know, Jurry's doing the right thing. They'd actually allow

1218
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 21: a good debate in Parliament about I think what a

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00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 21: good speaker would do because the punishment is unprecedented, and

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Speaker 21: I think Tim's saying he's going to let whatever say

1221
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 21: about that. I think it's good because it allows these

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Speaker 21: arguments to come out.

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Speaker 3: However, however, feel I'll give you an alternative argument on that, right,

1224
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: because it's a fair point that you're making. But here's

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00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: the alternative argument. If Parliament takes his direction and waters

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00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: down the punishment and then gives them I don't know,

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Speaker 3: let's say three days, seven days, whatever, and they do

1228
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Speaker 3: it again because they have indicated they are going to

1229
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Speaker 3: do it again, then it's on him, isn't it, Because

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Speaker 3: then he has told Parliament you need to soften this punishment,

1231
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Speaker 3: and then these and it's not a deterrent and these

1232
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Speaker 3: guys do it again.

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Speaker 21: Well, if that's the case, then put them out forty days.

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00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 21: I mean, that's the point, right, because you've got to

1235
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 21: have a situation where by if you want to if

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00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 21: you want to change the rules, you'd have a proper

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00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 21: debate about that in a context of fairness and in

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00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 21: the context of give and take, and then move it through.

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00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 21: And that's what's not happening here, and I think that's

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Speaker 21: why the punishment has been so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you made a really interesting point there, Ali, which

1242
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: is that we have to keep Parliament interesting. This is

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Speaker 3: ultimately what's going on here in the social media world.

1244
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 3: You've got these guys acting up, doing the hucker Brook,

1245
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: dropping the sea bomb, David driving a truck up the

1246
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: steps of Parliament. They're all doing it for social media attention,

1247
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: aren't they. Yeah, well, I think.

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 26: I think the social media helped to propel this to

1249
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 26: continue happening. Although we've got to remember that this kind

1250
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 26: of grandstanding is not you And I mean even before

1251
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 26: social media you might not remember that being as young

1252
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 26: as you are either, they didn't, you know, they still

1253
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 26: did this kind of stuff. So but maybe there's an

1254
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 26: added incentive to do that now. But I mean, look

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Speaker 26: at Winston. Winston has been around for years. He's been

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 26: doing this kind of silly carry on for ages. Imagine

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Speaker 26: if we didn't have someone like Winston Peters in there.

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Speaker 26: We've got to have the passion, even if we are

1259
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 26: critical of it, if it's uncomfortable, and there's a degree

1260
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 26: of reasonableness as well, But we have to have this

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00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 26: color and this passion in politics otherwise God.

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Speaker 3: Who would care? Yeah, Okay, listen, we'll take a break

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Speaker 3: and come back to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Back On the Huddle with Pillareali and Ali Jones, Ali,

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Speaker 3: were you surprised this drug testing at work found twenty

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Speaker 3: five percent positive for p Oh? Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 26: I'm kind of a I was gonna say, a bit

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00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 26: out of touch with all that stuff, but we regularly

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00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 26: hear these stories when they test the wastewater and you

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Speaker 26: know it went up I think during COVID and so forth.

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Speaker 26: But yeah, I was really surprised, But I would like

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00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 26: to know why what it is that? Is it the

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 26: availability of the drug. Is it that the cost of

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 26: the drug? Is it why people not taking cocaine as

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00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 26: they used to? I believe that they used to show

1278
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 26: up in the in the wastewater system. As far as

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Speaker 26: testing people, more goes absolutely. If they're in a role,

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 26: whether in charge of machinery or you know, driving a vehicle,

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Speaker 26: I haven't got a problem with that at all.

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Speaker 3: What about phil if they're just in a role like

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Speaker 3: for example, what about drug testing radio announcers? Because I seriously,

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Speaker 3: if one of us, and it definitely isn't me obviously,

1285
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: but if one of us was on the glass pipe

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Speaker 3: and then just got a bit loose, came to work

1287
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: still kind of having a woon on it, and started

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01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: just I mean, you could break all kinds of broadcasting rules.

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: There's the reputational side, which Glenn was saying to us

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01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: at the very beginning of the show, Glenn Dobson, there's

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01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 3: the reputational side. If you get busted and you're on

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Speaker 3: the pee or have been using the pee, how bad

1293
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: that looks for your company? So, actually, Phil, is there

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01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: not an argument for any employer to do it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: There is.

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Speaker 21: I agree with Value that the primary thing is health

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Speaker 21: and safety. That's why you see these really strict rules

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Speaker 21: and sort of q erail and at ports and airports

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Speaker 21: and airlines and so on, because that's where the robber

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Speaker 21: really is, the road and in those companies. I was

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Speaker 21: just checking with a few of my mates the South.

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Speaker 21: They need to confirm this. Actually, in places like a port, well,

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Speaker 21: everybody gets tested, the guy the boss, and the directors

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01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 21: and the guys running their straddle carriers, because everyone down

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01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 21: on that culture is everybody gets tested. Right, Here's here's

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01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 21: the little chap. So I think is there a role

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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 21: to think about the wider risk issue to say, to

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Speaker 21: your point, there's a risk that someone breaks some rules

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01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 21: because they're you know, they're on the on the on

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 21: the pipe. Yes, I think you could take that view,

1312
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 21: but you start to u under a few problems because

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Speaker 21: what I'm also reliably informed is that some of the

1314
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 21: testing can be pretty inaccurate. It can be this masking

1315
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 21: that can be done and so on. So do you

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01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 21: really know what you're doing? So yeah, I agree that

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01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 21: the testing is a good idea, along with education, along

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 21: with making sure the testing's right, along with well along

1319
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 21: by the way, having a view about that testing, which says,

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Speaker 21: if we find you, we're going to treat that as

1321
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 21: something we can we can treat, we can help you out.

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01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 21: We're not just going to fire, You're not going to

1323
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Speaker 21: bullet you straight away. We're going to work with you

1324
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 21: to try and make sure we can get you better.

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Speaker 21: And I think most employers would kind of buy that

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01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 21: idea such a it's a health issue as well as

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Speaker 21: a safety issue, and it's not perfect by any means.

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Speaker 3: No, not at all, Alie, Okay, to keep the fifty

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Speaker 3: four kg ked out of the forty five kg competition,

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Speaker 3: do you.

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Speaker 26: Know I put the mother lens on this when I

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01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 26: first saw the story. You know, I really and look,

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 26: my our son who's twenty two, used to play rugby

1334
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 26: and he was a bit of a tall, skinny white

1335
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 26: cat and when he played some of the teams that

1336
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Speaker 26: had the you know, the really big usually Polynesian boys.

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01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 26: We do have some Polynesian and Marti people in christ Church.

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01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 26: And when he would go and play in teams against

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01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 26: some of those boys, I mean they were men, some

1340
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 26: of them, and it would just really worry me. So

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01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 26: from the safety perspective, I do have an issue with that,

1342
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 26: But I don't know what the rules are Philly. You're

1343
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 26: a rugby player. Maybe if you're if you're a big

1344
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 26: guy and a team, does it worry you so much

1345
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 26: if you're playing against big guys?

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Speaker 21: I'm so useless at sport made I tell you what

1347
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 21: I'm hoping. But when I was, when I was a

1348
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 21: boy back in the day, you used to have weight

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Speaker 21: for age.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 21: It was because the challenge he was at rugby is

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01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 21: the contact sport. And that's where I think you do

1353
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 21: run into issues where someone is big. Either there you know,

1354
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 21: they're just bigger than normal, or they're foud or what

1355
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 21: eeveryone might be the challenges that they're going to crunch

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 21: a kid and that kid's going to get injured potentially seriously.

1357
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 21: So I think there is a rule. I think there

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01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 21: is a sensible rule to say, within some limitations that

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01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 21: if you're if you're over the weight, you go to

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Speaker 21: a bigger weight scale.

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Speaker 2: You know you might.

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Speaker 21: It's not you know, that's why I wait for ages.

1363
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 21: It's not just stage, it's also waked.

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Speaker 11: The man.

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Speaker 3: Is your birthday?

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Speaker 21: It is?

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Speaker 3: And Harvey Harvey. I don't know who Harvey is, but

1368
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: Harvey dobbed you in on the text machine. Do you

1369
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: know who Harvey is?

1370
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Speaker 21: I do know Harvey. He's a carphonetic from long Array.

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Speaker 21: I know exactly.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Phil, I hope you have a lovely day

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01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: and thank you very much. Hard This evening seven away.

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Speaker 1: From six, it's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show

1375
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: podcast on my Heart Radio powered by News.

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01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 3: Talk Uh here the read the pay equity Chippy won't

1377
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: change the law back, but he's more than happy to

1378
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: bank the savings from their terrible law. That's from Connell. Yeah,

1379
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: I feel a little bit like explaining is losing right.

1380
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 3: And I know that Chippy try to explain the distinction

1381
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: to us, but I still have that. I just have

1382
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 3: a niggling suspicion that when labor's back government and all

1383
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 3: of these ladies and people in the lower paid workers'

1384
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: work places are going to come to them and go, Okay, cool,

1385
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 3: so will you change the law back now? They will go,

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: oh yeah, some of it, some of it, but not

1387
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 3: all of it. And so in the end what you're

1388
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: going to end up with is a whole bunch of

1389
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: disappointed people. I have a sneaky suspicion that Labor are

1390
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 3: going hard on the politics but actually may be quite

1391
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: grateful that National and Act have pulled the pin on

1392
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: the thing and stop this thing blowing out in the

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01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: way that it was. Listen, this is probably not going

1394
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: to surprise you, but they've done this is Oxford University

1395
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: has done some new research on you know, those weight

1396
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 3: loss jabs like we go Vy and stuff like that,

1397
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: and what that found is no surprise whatsoever. You will

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01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: lose weight while you're on it, but the minute you

1399
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: stop doing it, you put the weight back on. So

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 3: what they found is typically patients lose about eight kg's

1401
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: on these weight loss jabs, but when you stop, you're

1402
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: back at that weight that you were at within ten months.

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 3: The newer drugs like we govy are better. You lose

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01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: twice as much weight on average sixteen cag's, but once

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01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: you stop, you put on ten kgs a year, so

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01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: you're back to your You're waiting twenty twenty months, and

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: that'll be because you haven't changed any habits, have you?

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01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: No habits have changed. You haven't learned to not put

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 3: the pie in your face. You're just not hungry, so

1410
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 3: you're not eating. So then the minute you start getting

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: hungry again, pie goes in. I know because I have

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01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: been there. Who hasn't. Frankly, Okay, here we go. The

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: value proposition is best if you go to the concert

1414
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 3: by Usher or Drake or ed Shearon. So Usher you're

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Speaker 3: paying three dollars seventy six per song. Now remember this,

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01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: this is compete to Lanadale. Ray's the most expensive. She's

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Speaker 3: sixteen dollars a song. Usha is three dollars seventy six

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Speaker 3: per song, Drake is four dollars sixty six per song,

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: and ed Shearon is full dollars seventy nine per song

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01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: But what you really want to know is are you

1421
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: getting value for money when you go to Oasis in

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 3: November in Melbourne thirteen dollars sixty per song thirteen dollars

1423
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 3: and this American dollars and that's not even fact So

1424
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 3: that's expensive. That's not even factoring in your flights to Melbourne,

1425
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: your hotel's Melbourne. And then the fact that Nadia wants

1426
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: to go get the chocolate moose at the brand new restaurant,

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna cost you five hundred dollars just to

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01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: go to that, So it's gonna be very expensive.

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Speaker 10: Rod Duke next, keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 4: The Business Hour.

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Speaker 1: With Heather Duplessy all dans players, insurance and investments, Grow

1432
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 10: News talks that be even in coming up in the

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Speaker 10: next hour.

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Speaker 3: Air Chattams is going to talk us through that report

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: on what the government can do to help regional airlines

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: and whether it should actually Liam Dan on the rising

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Speaker 3: price of dairy and Ende Brady on what we do

1439
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Speaker 3: now that potent snub the meeting. It's coming up eight

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01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: past six. Now when I say Briscoes, you imagine a

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Speaker 3: big store right with rows and rows of towels and

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01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: pots and pillows. The company is now adding fifteen mini

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01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: metro stores to its lineup to boost sales. Brisco's first

1444
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: quarter sales were down two point six percent, but its

1445
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: business is largely held up when much of the retail

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Speaker 3: sector has really been struggling of late. Brisco Matt Group

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Speaker 3: Managing director Rod Duke is with us now, hay rod, Hi,

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 3: how a, you're doing very well. Thank you. Know what's

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01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: the thinking behind these mini stores?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's part of our strategic look forward. So what

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01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 6: mught me do to increase outreach through New Zealand given

1452
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 6: that the only thing we've got up left is relatively

1453
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 6: smaller catchments, and so we're on a path to develop

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01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 6: a smaller unit which will address these the smaller catchments.

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01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like where are you thinking?

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Speaker 6: Well, there's probably about a dozen locations. I'll give you

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Speaker 6: a couple of examples. Tower Ager. I've got one store

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Speaker 6: in Toweroger. It's a pre big catchment. But I've got

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Speaker 6: one store downtown which addresses some of the over the

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01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 6: bridge catchment. But there's a much larger catchment developing further

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Speaker 6: out towards Bethlehem. We've got one store. Could we put

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Speaker 6: another two minis in there? Yeah? I think we probably could.

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 6: And that's the sort of thing we're looking at.

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01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: What about city centers, for example Auckland.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've got a Yeah, we've got a downtown.

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Speaker 3: Rebel at present, but that's not a Briscoes and Briscoes

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Speaker 3: is my jam.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but look we are looking. But at

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01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 6: present they landlords have got stars of their eyes at

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Speaker 6: the moment. So look we're looking.

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Speaker 3: We're like to god, is it that the landlords are

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01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: just charging too much?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, it's just some of the some of the

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Speaker 6: sites we have looked at that's just unprofitable. I just

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01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 6: can't make any money.

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Speaker 3: Is this is this Auckland Central? Are we talking around?

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Speaker 3: You know the Queen Street type areas, those kinds of places, not.

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Speaker 6: Necessarily Queen Street, but certainly in the in the adjacent

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 6: streets and buildings we're looking at. We'd like one in

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Speaker 6: downtown Auckland because look, there's a lot of apartments down

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people enjoying SI living at present.

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Speaker 3: What about Ponsonby Road asking for a friend?

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01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I live nearby. That'll be handy for me as well.

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 3: We could meet up there.

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01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, look we could, you have to. There's a lot

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 6: of smaller units there and they're individually held and so

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 6: it's it's hard to get you know, a thousand square

1488
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 6: meters on the ground adjacent to one another. But look,

1489
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 6: we're downtown in Wellington, we're downtown in christ Church. So

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Speaker 6: we've got downtowns in some of the big centers organized,

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 6: but but not all. Look, Hamilton's another one. You know,

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 6: we're only on the north side. There's still lots of

1493
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 6: housing on the on the east, west and southern side

1494
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 6: of Hamilton, but it's just a bit tough to get

1495
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Speaker 6: the right sized and right appropriate locations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet now this this distribution sense that you've

1497
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 3: got lined up, it sounds like a game changer. How

1498
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: big is this thing going to be.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be about Bible six times bigger than

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01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 6: we've got. It's going to be, as you say, a

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 6: game changer for us because we've lived in relatively modest

1502
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 6: sized DC center in just just Auckland, and so yeah,

1503
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 6: we've got the the the problems of when stock comes in,

1504
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 6: it's just got to go somewhere quick. So it just

1505
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 6: goes into the stores and quite frank after's got too

1506
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:26,959
Speaker 6: much stock.

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01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 3: In the stores, and so and and and presumably if

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 3: it's landing in the stores, then it's not necessarily in

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: the right store. And some stores are selling out faster

1510
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: than they need to transfer. It's just like you'll be

1511
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: double handling things the whole time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 6: Look, my my interest store transfer is just to balance

1514
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 6: the stock up is about nine hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah,

1515
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 6: so that was that was just fall off completely. Yes,

1516
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 6: I don't worry. Yeah, building right.

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01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: Listen on the budget, are you is anything that you're

1518
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 3: looking looking to in the budget? Anything you want out

1519
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 3: of it?

1520
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 6: Look, I just like a couple of nice, big items

1521
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 6: so I can be convinced that the company's actually doing

1522
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 6: something and looking to achieve something. I think that I

1523
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 6: think right now they're working on a lot of fronts

1524
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 6: and trying to complete a lot of stuff at one time.

1525
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 6: So I just look for some guidance from them that

1526
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 6: they're they're onto something like what, well, well, let me

1527
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 6: get some exclusions, you know, capital gains tax, wealth tax,

1528
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 6: you know, I think that's that's probably not on their

1529
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 6: cards anyway. But I'd like to see some infrastructure spending.

1530
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 6: You know, I think I notice Australia just recently have

1531
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 6: gone into toll roads and that's sort of thing. Can't

1532
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 6: afford it and then look someone else can and there'll

1533
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 6: be a toll on it for a period.

1534
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: Did I detect a hint of frustration at the government

1535
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: in your voice before?

1536
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 6: Oh?

1537
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 4: Look?

1538
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 6: I think Look, I think I think we all appreciate

1539
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 6: that they that the situation they walked into was pretty

1540
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 6: ugly and they needed to do something, and they needed

1541
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 6: to sit down and think about it and do something sensible.

1542
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 6: But it look like most of us it's just about

1543
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 6: time that elections rolling up, not that far away. It'd

1544
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 6: be nice to see, nice to see the government. You're

1545
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 6: kicking a few goals, and that's how I think what

1546
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 6: all of.

1547
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 3: Us will say, some significant stuff. Rod, It's always wonderful

1548
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 3: to talk to you. Thank you so much. Go well.

1549
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to one of your briscos popping up nearby.

1550
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 3: That's Rod Duke, Managing director of the Brisco Group. Thirteen

1551
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: past six. Now are you want some population numbers, here's

1552
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 3: some population numbers for you. We are officially, as of

1553
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: the thirty first of March, sitting at five point three million.

1554
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie. I was disappointed by that number.

1555
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 3: I thought that well, I thought, surely we're tracking to

1556
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 3: a good sixty good six mil. I thought, well, you

1557
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 3: ever getting bigger? No? Five points, They're still sitting around

1558
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 3: the five. Come on, people, I have some babies. Let's

1559
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: get going. But then, to be fair and I'm going

1560
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: to I have got to give you this disclaimer. The

1561
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 3: numbers have come from Statistics New Zealand. Now we know

1562
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 3: Statistics New Zealand have a problem with counting lately because

1563
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 3: they did the inflation numbers that forgot to count the

1564
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: red Joe price increase. They did the numbers on how

1565
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: many people had lost their jobs in Wellington. They got

1566
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 3: it wrong by a factor of about oh ten times.

1567
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 3: So you know, could be could be six point five million,

1568
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 3: could be seven point five million, but we're going with

1569
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 3: five point three because that's what stat said. We have

1570
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: two point six eight million females and two point six

1571
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 3: five million males, So ladies, you still you're still battling

1572
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: it out in a hunger game style. For the boys.

1573
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 3: The median age is thirty nine years for the females

1574
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 3: and thirty seven years for the boys so bit a

1575
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 3: cradle Snatching fourteen past six.

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplicy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

1577
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by Newstalk ZEPPI closing the numbers

1578
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: and getting the results.

1579
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 4: It's Heather Duplicy Allen with the Business Hour.

1580
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: And mass Insurance and investments, Grow your Wealth, Protect your

1581
01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,959
Speaker 1: Future Use talks.

1582
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: End seventeen past six. Now we've been speaking about the

1583
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 3: price of dairy earlier in the program's been going up

1584
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 3: quite a bit, driving the food costs higher. In the

1585
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 3: last year or so, food prices up three point seven

1586
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 3: percent over the last year, Milk up though fifteen percent,

1587
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 3: cheese up twenty four percent, butter up sixty five percent.

1588
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: Liam dann As The Herald's Business editor at large, Alam.

1589
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 6: Get a Heather.

1590
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: I mean it hurts, but we also see the good

1591
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: side of this, which is that our farmers are making

1592
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: some money for the country.

1593
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 27: Right.

1594
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, I mean I always do. I'm always pleased

1595
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 14: to see dairy prices booming. I know it's you know,

1596
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 14: these rises weren't surprising any of the king bakers and

1597
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 14: people who are using a lot of butter, because there's

1598
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 14: been plenty of stories about it. Going through the roof.

1599
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 14: But you know, and of course I had a look

1600
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 14: on Facebook and everything on the story and all the

1601
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 14: comments at the bottom. You know, why do we have

1602
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 14: to pay so much when we make it here? And

1603
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 14: I can't help thinking, do we make it or do

1604
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 14: some you know, it's Fonterra is still a company of

1605
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 14: you know, and the farmers are getting up at five

1606
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 14: in the morning. They're making it when you know, we

1607
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 14: can't tell them to sell it to us cheaper. They

1608
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 14: can get a better price in China and they can

1609
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 14: get a better price in China right now, so that

1610
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 14: that's driving it up a little bit more. I think

1611
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 14: on the you know, pointing towards where the inflation numbers

1612
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 14: are headed, it's a little it was a little bit

1613
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 14: more than the economists would have liked to have seen today.

1614
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 14: They you know, there's some other prices we can't control,

1615
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 14: like coffee prices were up about twelve percent, twenty one

1616
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 14: percent for instant coffee drinkers. That's not much fun. But

1617
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 14: you know, there's still the economists recently confident that, you know,

1618
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 14: because of the real downturn in the core of the economy,

1619
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 14: that the inflation isn't going to go back to those

1620
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 14: high levels and that this temporary and you're going to

1621
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 14: see or non tradable inflation continuing to fall to balance

1622
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 14: it all out.

1623
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 3: Now, Liam, I see that the air fas and I

1624
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 3: did make this point, you are in the program. The

1625
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: air fees have drawn attention again because the international airfairs

1626
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: for them just in April compared to March went up

1627
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: by twenty five percent. That's, of course because there were

1628
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 3: school holidays and you know, Easter and blah blah blah.

1629
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: But now the obvious assumption is that the airlines have

1630
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: hiked the price for the school holidays. But is it

1631
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: also not possible that it simply is as more people book,

1632
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: the supply and demand algorithm caccinna drives the prices up.

1633
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 14: I guess, you know, there's been that shortage of planes

1634
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 14: and so on, but I would say, you know, fuel

1635
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 14: prices are quite significantly down that they've been a good

1636
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 14: you know, going in the right direction. So you know, yeah,

1637
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 14: look as a dad who's booked all his overseas holidays

1638
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 14: just recently during the school you know, and I have

1639
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:44,919
Speaker 14: to go during the school holidays.

1640
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot are still at school I thought

1641
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: they were at UNI.

1642
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 14: Two of them are still at school and my wife's

1643
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 14: a teacher, so I can't get around them. You know,

1644
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 14: you don't think about when you think about the teachers

1645
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 14: having all those holidays as they can't get the cheap

1646
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 14: air fe is they've got to go winners a school holidays.

1647
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 3: You know what that is?

1648
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 14: A what's that?

1649
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 3: That's the first world problem.

1650
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 14: That's a first world problem. It absolutely is.

1651
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, no, I'll accept that.

1652
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 2: Lim.

1653
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 3: It's good to talk to you as always. Thanks mate.

1654
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 3: It's Liam dan Good, General Business Editor at Large. Hey,

1655
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 3: got a little bit of good news for you, probably

1656
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 3: New Zealand. Okay, we've only got this one aluminium recycler apparently.

1657
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 3: Now I thought we had more than that, but apparently,

1658
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 3: according to Business desk, we've only got one. It's called

1659
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: Glue China Alloys, and it was in Business desk this

1660
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 3: morning saying it's going to go out of business if

1661
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 3: it can't find a replacement energy source because it's got

1662
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 3: a gas contract with Genesis. But this thing is going

1663
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 3: to run out in September next year and you know,

1664
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 3: you know the price of gas and things are going

1665
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 3: to get very expensive for them, so anyway, They thought

1666
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: about switching to electricity, but that's not an option because Vector,

1667
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 3: which is the local lines company, is going to charge

1668
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 3: them half a million just to provide the capacity. Then

1669
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: they have to spend three hundred thousand on equipment and

1670
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 3: installation at the factory to make it all work and stuff.

1671
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 3: So they were like, electricity is not an option. It's

1672
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 3: it's eight hundred thousand right there, and gas is obviously

1673
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 3: not going to be an option. So what are we

1674
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: going to do anyway, So we gave them a call

1675
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 3: and we said, hey, let's chat about it on the show.

1676
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 3: We love a gas story. And they said, actually, we

1677
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 3: can't come on the show because we might have a solution.

1678
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: So I'm telling you that because all's well, potentially that

1679
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: ends well. So we will keep an eye on what's

1680
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 3: going on with Gluccina alloys and we will tell you.

1681
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 3: Six twenty two.

1682
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: The Rural Report with MSD Animal Health, Home of the

1683
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,480
Speaker 1: new ol flags rapid evotags.

1684
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: Oh, they set the algorithms, Heather, therefore it goes up.

1685
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 3: Thank you, Simon. That's a fair point. Six to twenty four.

1686
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 3: Jamie mckaye, Host of the Country is with us Hey

1687
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 3: Jamie Heather. Hey, so we're handing out all these awards, right,

1688
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: We're not handing them out, but we're going to talk

1689
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 3: about them. You've got the Primary Industry's awards coming up.

1690
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 3: Who's up for Rural Hero?

1691
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 21: Well?

1692
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,959
Speaker 27: This is kind of the Agrarian Oscars, the Bovine Bastards,

1693
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 27: the Equine Emmys. I couldn't think of any alliteration around Grammy's.

1694
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 27: Maybe you could do that for me, Heather while I'm

1695
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 27: going on about this. But yeah, this is the seventh

1696
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 27: annual Prime Re Industry in New Zealand Awards and they've

1697
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 27: named the finalists the highlight of the two day PINNs

1698
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 27: Summit taking place in the christ Church Convention Center in

1699
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 27: late June. The movers and shakers in the primary industry. Look,

1700
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 27: I just picked out a couple of categories with some

1701
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 27: interesting entrance. The Rural Hero finalists are the late Chris Allen,

1702
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 27: who died in a farm accident honor Ashburton Farm last year.

1703
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 27: He grave gave great service to Federated farmers and was

1704
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 27: a great bloke as well. Neil Btup helped set up

1705
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 27: the waikat O'haiaki Corrimandel Rural Support Trust in two thousand

1706
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 27: and four and twenty seventeen. He went on to become

1707
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 27: the founding chair of the New Zealand Rural Support Trust.

1708
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 27: This guy has given endless service and I really love

1709
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 27: this story. The third finalist in the Rural Hero Award

1710
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 27: category is a guy called n Jury who for twenty

1711
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 27: years has been raising money for the Taranaki Rescue helicopter

1712
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 27: by collecting batteries for recycling. When we get to the

1713
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 27: Champion Award, my old school Saint Peter's College and Gore

1714
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 27: and first fifteen rugby mate Jim Ward James Ward is

1715
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 27: up for recognition. He runs New Zealand's biggest farm, Molesworth's Station. Incidentally,

1716
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 27: his late father, Ron was an All Black pre war

1717
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 27: who had the distinction of playing in the Fords and

1718
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 27: the backs for the All Blacks. He's up against a

1719
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 27: research scientist, doctor Robin Dines and David Wheeler for that

1720
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 27: Champion Award. So all sorts of categories up for grabs.

1721
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 27: It's a great night out the rural folk of New Zealand.

1722
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 27: The primary industry put on their finest the penguin suits

1723
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 27: and everything, and it's off the christ Church.

1724
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: What about the grassroots Grammy says someone.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, well that's not bad.

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Speaker 7: Actually I might use that one.

1727
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:49,919
Speaker 3: With the Grammys.

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Speaker 27: Well, I'll go with grassroots. It sounds that sounds a

1729
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 27: wee bit better. But you can't beat grass bed grass

1730
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 27: fed meat. It's spent a long day.

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Speaker 24: Hey.

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Speaker 27: The other awards that are coming up, Heather are coming

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01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,520
Speaker 27: up in the little town of Lawrence in South Otago

1734
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 27: on Saturday night, Century Farm and Station Awards. Now, Lawrence

1735
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 27: is famous for being where Gabriel and Gabriel's Gully in

1736
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 27: nineteen or eighteen sixty one they discovered gold. Population of

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01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,959
Speaker 27: this little town swelled to over eleven thousand, and Dunedin

1738
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 27: as a result, became New Zealand's pre eminent city before

1739
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 27: it was eclipsed by Auckland. So look, it's a beautiful

1740
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 27: little town. Still got wonderful Victorian and Edwardian buildings and facades.

1741
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 27: And what happens at the Century Farm and Station Awards

1742
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 27: as farms that have been in the same family ownership

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 27: for one hundred years or more get recognized. This year

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01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 27: they're celebrating twenty one or awarding twenty one families. It'll

1745
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 27: be fantastic. The idea came about from a guy called

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 27: Russell Brown who lives down the road in a place

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01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 27: called Waiterhuna. He came up with the ida. There After

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01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 27: him and his wife hosted some North American tourists from

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01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 27: Vermont who told them about their State Century Farm program,

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01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 27: which did exactly the same things.

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Speaker 6: If you eligible, eligible.

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Speaker 27: Family, stop me when you want, Heather submit narratives of

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01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 27: their farm history with photographs supporting documents, and then they're

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01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 27: archived in the Alexander Turnbull Library and Wellington And a

1755
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,480
Speaker 27: final shot from me, Heather. The mackay family was recognized

1756
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 27: in twenty eleven. And that's Barry Soaper's grandfather who bought

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01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 27: that farm way back in nineteen ten.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you, Jamie. I appreciate that. Jamie McKay, Host

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Speaker 3: of the Country.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh airge Adams Little to airge Adams. Oh yep. So

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01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: they're going to have they're going to tell us what

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01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 3: the government should do to help regional airlines quishers should

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Speaker 3: we headlines next.

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Speaker 28: Post a MAZONI whether it's macro microbe or just playing economics,

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01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 28: it's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Ellen

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Speaker 28: and Mars Insurance and Investments.

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01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 4: Grew your wealth protect your future. News talks at.

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Speaker 20: Mel we deliter so I can't remember everything we say.

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01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 3: We see the Brady's going to be with us in

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01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 3: around about ten minutes time. I'm sure he's going to

1772
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: want to discuss what Cooton's just done, snubbing the whole

1773
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 3: thing and just yeah, just putting this. These talks are

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01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 3: utterly pointless, as as we discussed earlier. So ten minutes

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Speaker 3: some will have chat him about that, Harry. Now, Harry's popularity,

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01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 3: it will be no surprise to you whatsoever has fallen

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01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 3: since he gave that ridiculous interview to the BBC where

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01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 3: he suggested that Charles is basically, you know, on borrowed time.

1779
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 3: At the moment, he might be right. He might be right,

1780
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 3: but you don't go and say that out loud about

1781
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: your dad, do you. Anyway, So there's a UGOV poll

1782
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: that's had a look at where everybody ranks in the

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01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: royal family. Harry's favorable rating. Favorability rating has dropped to

1784
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: twenty seven percent. This is the lowest it's been in

1785
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: two years. Meghan is down to twenty percent. This is

1786
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: the lowest it's ever been since you have started tracking

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01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, the year before she married into the

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: royal family, So she's back down to there. Compare that to,

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01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: just for a bit of context, William on seventy five percent,

1790
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 3: Kate on seventy two percent, and these two clowns are

1791
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 3: sitting on twenty percent something. Remember also for a bit

1792
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 3: of context, Harry used to be on an eighty percent

1793
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 3: approval rating back in twenty eleven, when everybody loved him

1794
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 3: and thought he was cool because he was cool. Now

1795
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 3: he's sitting on twenty seven percent, twenty three away from seven.

1796
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 4: Heather due for CEL.

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Speaker 3: A new report reckons the increase in domestic airfares may

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01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 3: be due to a lack of the right kind of planes.

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01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 3: In particular, airlines apparently don't have access to suitable nineteen

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Speaker 3: to fifty seat passenger aircraft. In New Zealand has abandoned

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01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 3: some regional routes, but the gap in the market hasn't

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01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 3: been filled yet. Now, Dwyane em Andy is the chief

1803
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 3: commercial officer for Air Chathams and is with us. Now, hey,

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01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 3: Dwayne Goody, is this the problem? You guys don't have

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01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 3: these right kind of planes.

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01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 29: No, we do, we do, they're just not making them.

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Speaker 21: Anymore.

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01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 29: So we're using older aircraft, and with older aircraft, you know,

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01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 29: it becomes a bit more maintenance intensive and you've got

1810
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 29: to reinvest in them. Starts, it starts to cost a lot.

1811
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 3: Why don't that make them anymore?

1812
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 29: That's good question. There are a few operators like ATR

1813
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 29: still produce new aircraft. I think Dawnia's got a new

1814
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 29: variant coming out that's in that sort of thirty seat category.

1815
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 29: But yeah, I guess everyone's starting to look sort of

1816
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 29: ten years down the track and see what the new

1817
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 29: generation aircraft is going to look like and putting a

1818
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 29: lot of investment into that.

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01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 3: Okay, see, but so they are still making them. They're

1820
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 3: making these planes. Do you need these planes?

1821
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1822
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 29: I think they serve a really important role, especially in

1823
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 29: remote regional connectivity. But I guess what's also happening is

1824
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 29: that you're seeing bigger airlines, especially looking at centralizing in

1825
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 29: larger regional hubs using larger aircraft potentially at less frequency,

1826
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 29: but filling those planes up lower seat cost of They

1827
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 29: can do that and that's quite effective for them. So

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01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 29: obviously the net result that is some of the smaller

1829
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 29: regional ports, especially in New Zealand, just aren't serviced as

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01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 29: frequently as they used to be, in some cases.

1831
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Speaker 6: Not at all.

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01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 3: How much trouble are you guys in financially given what's

1833
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 3: going on with the recession.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, I mean it's it's challenging for for aviation businesses

1835
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 29: at the moment. I think for us really it was,

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01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 29: you know, we had a pandemic and now we've got

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Speaker 29: a recession. It's just working through that. You know, we're

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01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 29: very well supported by our bank, so we're very fortunate

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01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 29: for that. But yeah, it's really really tough. I mean,

1840
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 29: thirty six percent increase in direct operating cost cost of

1841
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 29: capital is very high for us. And then it's our

1842
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 29: ability to keep reinvesting in our business at a time

1843
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 29: where you're just just not making the money. So very

1844
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 29: very challenging, and of course that's why we're having these

1845
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 29: conversations with both central and local government, just to see

1846
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 29: how we can retain some of these really key services.

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01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, is anybody actually wanting to help you out?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think that do.

1849
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 29: I think they do, but it's just a mechanism for

1850
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 29: how you do that, because it really just doesn't exist

1851
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 29: and he's yond at the moment, So a lot of

1852
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 29: the conversations really are around you know, what would be

1853
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 29: the best mechanism to ensure that we can at least

1854
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 29: maintain what we have and then you know, develop something

1855
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 29: further which enables it to actually grow. So I think,

1856
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 29: you know, in the last probably eighteen months, there's been

1857
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 29: some really positive conversations. I think that having someone like

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01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 29: Minister Meager coming into the role has been really quite

1859
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 29: good because he understands it. He comes from to Muru.

1860
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 29: You know, he's seen the impact of you know, some

1861
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 29: of these regional connectivity issues, so he can sort of

1862
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 29: really speak from the heart in terms of what he

1863
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 29: thinks needs to happen and really drive his ministry to

1864
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 29: work on that. So, you know, we've got some optimism,

1865
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 29: but you know, something really does need to change, and

1866
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 29: I think there really needs to be a bit of

1867
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 29: a circuit breaker to say, hey, let's help these guys

1868
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 29: out now while we work out this longer term picture.

1869
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 3: Be honest with me, right, everybody loves to have a

1870
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 3: crack at air in New Zealand, but is there anything

1871
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 3: we can actually do? I mean, do you actually want

1872
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: a market study? Would it actually achieve anything? Is there

1873
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 3: anything that actually needs to change? There or are they

1874
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 3: just doing business like they should.

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01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 29: No, I don't think anything. I don't think a market

1876
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 29: study would change anything. You know, what I've read from

1877
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 29: body Zion's put out in the media, also what they

1878
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 29: said to the Select Committee recently, we totally agree with.

1879
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 29: I mean, the cost of running smaller turbo proper aircraft

1880
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 29: regionally is really really high, and therefore their fears need

1881
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 29: to be quite high too. So you know, if you

1882
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 29: want to waste your time money on a market study,

1883
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 29: fill your boots. But it's really not going to change anything.

1884
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dwayne, listen, beast of luck with it, because I

1885
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 3: love what you guys do. Duane m Any, chief commercial

1886
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: officer at Air Chathams. By the way, this battle between

1887
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 3: Harvard and the Trump White House over the funding is

1888
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: continuing and it looks like Harvard is getting, you know,

1889
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 3: as you would expect, into a little bit of financial

1890
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 3: strife over is a bit of cous just a bit

1891
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 3: tight now, isn't it. So Harvard's president has announced he's

1892
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: taking a voluntary pay cut. He's gonna cut a quarter

1893
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: out of his salary voluntarily. He's expected other staff in

1894
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 3: the top ranks will He's not like pressuring them, but

1895
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 3: it has been no. He has let it be known,

1896
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 3: and it is expected that others will also do the

1897
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 3: same thing to varying degrees, to help them out while

1898
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 3: they trying to figure out how they're going to make

1899
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 3: this work without all that money coming from the White House.

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01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:30,919
Speaker 3: Seventeen away from seven.

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01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,639
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01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 3: It's a seven intebraded UK correspondence with us now ended. Laura,

1906
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 3: the German just told me that someone just pulled a

1907
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 3: knife on you. You okay, Yeah, I'm fine.

1908
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 20: May do you hear what's just happened to me? This

1909
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 20: is London, though you never see a police officer. So

1910
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 20: I'm two hundred meters away from my studio and there's

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01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 20: a guy standing behind a row of bikes that you

1912
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 20: can hire by the hour, and he quite aggressively said

1913
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 20: to me, can you give me three fifty for a bike?

1914
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 20: And I never have any cash on me, so I said,

1915
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 20: I have no cash on me. He then said, well fu.

1916
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 20: He had a plastic pint glass full of liquid which

1917
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 20: he threw at me. So I jumped out of the way.

1918
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 20: The liquid went everywhere, and then I moved closer to

1919
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 20: him and I said, why did you do that? And

1920
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 20: quick as a flash, out comes the knife and he goes,

1921
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 20: come on then, and I said, put the knife down

1922
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 20: and we'll talk, and then he just kept moving. So

1923
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 20: at that point I thought, I'm not getting stabbed over this.

1924
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 20: Welcome to London, that is the city we live in.

1925
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 20: I'm okay, I'm I'm just amazed. I mean, you never

1926
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 20: see police officers. I'm looking down the street. Now there's

1927
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 20: a bus stop, there's kids. There's a girl who's probably

1928
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 20: twelve in school uniform, just getting on a bus. And

1929
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 20: this incident happened one hundred and fifty meters away from

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Speaker 20: where those kids are. It's shocking what has become of London.

1931
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 20: It really really is. And you know what, just permit

1932
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 20: me ten more seconds on this, Heather. I've just come

1933
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 20: back from Warsaw in Poland. I've been filming in Poland.

1934
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,759
Speaker 20: But the presidential election this weekend for the last three days,

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01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 20: clean safe police everywhere and nobody bothers you. And I've

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Speaker 20: just had that on my way to working.

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Speaker 3: I just want to ask, so you are I mean,

1938
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Speaker 3: you are out of Ham's way, right, He's not going

1939
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Speaker 3: to come.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, No, I'm true. I'm true. Security. Now I'm in

1941
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 20: the studio. I'm happy, but I'm just a little bit shaken.

1942
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 20: But like I'm quite annoyed because the city is getting lawless?

1943
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Speaker 3: What's going on?

1944
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Speaker 20: Did you never see any police officers?

1945
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Speaker 4: Why?

1946
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Speaker 20: Just never see? I don't know where the money goes.

1947
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 20: It is the mystery of modern Britain. I'm paying I'm

1948
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 20: in the top one percent of taxpayers and earners in

1949
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Speaker 20: the United Kingdom. I don't know where the money goes, Heather,

1950
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 20: They're certainly not spending it on police officers. And there's

1951
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 20: no point even going to the police about this. I've

1952
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 20: reported it to security downstairs there dealing with it, but

1953
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 20: there's there's usually never see cops.

1954
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the listener, this is and I mean, I

1955
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 3: hate to say this because I really hate it. The

1956
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 3: bad people get away with bad behavior. But in don't

1957
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 3: next time something like that happens, don't ask him why

1958
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 3: you did that, Just leave because you don't need Lucky

1959
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 3: to do He actually, you know, showed you what he

1960
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 3: was up to before you actually got in trouble. Now listen,

1961
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: speaking of all of this crime and stuff, you guys

1962
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 3: are running out of prison space again as well.

1963
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,560
Speaker 20: Yeah, they are. So it's a big announcement from the

1964
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 20: government today. Nine point four billion dollars is being set

1965
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Speaker 20: aside in the budget. They're going to build three new

1966
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 20: prisons and the reason being they've done their figures and

1967
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 20: they've calculated how many come in and out of the

1968
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Speaker 20: criminal system and the prison estate as they call it,

1969
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 20: and by November it will be full. So as of

1970
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 20: today they're on ninety nine percent capacity. And if you

1971
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 20: remember when Starmer took power of July last year, one

1972
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 20: of the first things he had to do was let

1973
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 20: guys out early. And there were not huge criminals. They

1974
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 20: were not rapists or pedophiles or murderers. These were people

1975
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 20: who had stolen things or you know, traffic violations, people

1976
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 20: who you know, were serving six to twelve month sentences.

1977
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 20: They were let out early in their one hundreds for

1978
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 20: several weeks. Clearly, they can't keep doing that, so the

1979
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 20: plan is three new systems' prisons to be built in

1980
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 20: the UK system in the next three years.

1981
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 3: Are you surprised that Gary Lineker actually apologized for something

1982
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 3: for once.

1983
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 20: Yes, I am really in a way, and I think

1984
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 20: he'd no option here. He is leaving his BBC Match

1985
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 20: of the Day role in a matter of weeks, but

1986
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 20: he has been booked to do the twenty twenty six

1987
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 20: Soccer World Cup on the BBC and that will be

1988
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 20: his last big gig for the corporation. So what he's

1989
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 20: done is he has reposted and shared on Instagram a

1990
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 20: clip a video and it says Zionism explained in two minutes,

1991
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 20: and there is a rat emoji on that footage. Now

1992
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 20: clearly we know this goes all the way back to

1993
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 20: the Third Reich and the kind of imagery and language

1994
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 20: used by the likes of Hitler and Goebbels and the

1995
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 20: rest of them. He deleted it very very quickly. He

1996
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 20: says he didn't want to cause offense, but he has apologized.

1997
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 20: I think a lot of his Jewish colleagues at the

1998
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 20: BBC are extremely angry. Jewish organizations are calling for him

1999
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 20: to be sacked. Watch this space, but he does seem bulletproof. Yeah,

2000
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 20: it's a strange one.

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01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 3: It really is. A listen putin calls for a meeting,

2002
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 3: then doesn't turn up. What the hell's he up to?

2003
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 20: So he has absolutely no interest in peace. I mean

2004
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 20: the whole point of what they're doing. And from every

2005
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 20: senior Russian that I have interviewed over the last three

2006
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 20: plus years of this war, the plan is that Ukraine

2007
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 20: does not exist, and they will grind on if it

2008
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 20: means an inch every week, and they do this for

2009
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 20: the next thirty years. That is the plan. He has

2010
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 20: no interest in peace whatsoever. And I think Zelenski has

2011
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 20: played a master stroke by calling him out and saying

2012
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 20: I'll be there, will you, And he knew he knew

2013
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 20: Putin would not turn up. Putin sending a deputy deputy

2014
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 20: culture minister. I mean, it's two fingers up to everyone.

2015
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 20: But at least hopefully now Trump and Vance and the

2016
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 20: rest of them in America can see what they're dealing with,

2017
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 20: because make no mistakes, and I predict this here and now,

2018
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 20: within the next three to five years, once Putin has

2019
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 20: recovered his economy and he gets more men into his military,

2020
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 20: he will go after one of the Baltic nations like Estonia.

2021
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope that doesn't happen, but I think you

2022
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 3: might be right, and to listen, thank you very much,

2023
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 3: and yeah, go and calm your nerves. That's endo. Brady

2024
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 3: how UK correspondent. I mean, do we even need to

2025
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 3: say this? There is value? I mean this is to

2026
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 3: Tamotha obviously, Tabitha of the Greens, there is value in

2027
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 3: having the coppers around. I know that they freak Tamotha out,

2028
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 3: but for the rest of us, there's value in having

2029
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 3: the coppers around. Do we even need to say that?

2030
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 3: And it just made the point nine away from seven?

2031
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 4: It's the Heather too.

2032
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: Percy Allan Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: Newstalk Zibby.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, I'm such a boomer. I can't believe it.

2035
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm a boomer. I'm not even a boomer's age. I

2036
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 3: have to download teams on my phone for a call tomorrow.

2037
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 3: Got to do a call tomorrow. And I said to

2038
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 3: the woman who would be honestly about two years younger

2039
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 3: than me upstairs, basically the building works like this.

2040
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 10: It's like.

2041
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 16: You, Oh, I can't wait to hear this very correct.

2042
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 3: The higher you go up the building, it's it's it's

2043
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 3: commensurate to your brains, like, hey, your IQ, So she's

2044
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 3: above me. A floor. So she's smarter than me. So

2045
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 3: I said to her today, I was like, how am

2046
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 3: I going to connect to this call tomorrow?

2047
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 15: What is it?

2048
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 3: What's the format?

2049
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 6: Is it?

2050
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 3: WhatsApp? Is it the phone? Is it the whatevers? I

2051
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 3: don't know what's the other one that we use?

2052
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 2: Zoom is it that?

2053
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 3: She goes n it's teams. She goes go into your

2054
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 3: calendar and vite gun and I was like, I know

2055
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 3: how to do that. Then she's like, it's teams and

2056
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I don't know how to do that.

2057
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: What do I do?

2058
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 3: She was like, you've got it? Download? Oh no, now

2059
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 3: I have to tonight. I have to download teams for

2060
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 3: a phone call tomorrow, just for the one phone call.

2061
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 3: I have to download the teams. And it's irritating me.

2062
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 3: I'm irritated, Like I am so irritated by it. Anyway,

2063
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 3: maybe Verry can help either of Gosh, no, he can't,

2064
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 3: because you know what happens when he when he has

2065
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 3: to deal with the technology, he slams the things down.

2066
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 3: The keyboard gets slammed down. It's just a disaster.

2067
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 16: And don't ask Darsy Watergrove for any help either. I

2068
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 16: know for any electronic device that comes within about a

2069
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 16: meter of them immediately starts creating problems, whether or not

2070
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 16: he's touching it.

2071
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 3: Anyway, what I've decided to do is I'm a bit

2072
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 3: young for it, but I'm just going to lean into it.

2073
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 3: Like the guys here at work talk to me about

2074
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 3: something called the slack, no idea what the slack is,

2075
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 3: and they're like, I'll just go on the slack and

2076
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not going on it because I don't

2077
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 3: know what it is. I don't even know what it

2078
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 3: looks like. I don't know where to find it. I

2079
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a rolling thing or if it's

2080
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 3: a picture that I don't know what it is. And

2081
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 3: I don't want to know, and I don't want anybody

2082
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 3: to explain it to me, and I don't want to

2083
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 3: be asked to use it. I just want other people

2084
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 3: to help me with it, like a proper boomer. And

2085
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it. By the way, I listen really quickly

2086
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 3: before we go. There is an award show you've probably

2087
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 3: never heard of. It's called the Webby Awards and it

2088
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 3: was held earlier this week. And what it does is

2089
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 3: it Awards Internet Content Creators on their work, and this

2090
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 3: year it gave them a challenge and it said you're

2091
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 3: allowed to come up, but you're only allowed five words

2092
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 3: for your acceptance speech, not like an oscar where they

2093
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 3: go on fever five words. So you know the ugly

2094
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 3: one and he's ugly. He's actually very handsome. But you

2095
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 3: know the one with the hair from the White Lotus,

2096
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 3: Walter Goggins, you know the one who's got the greasy hair.

2097
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 3: He won the Best Actor. This was his speech.

2098
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens, be grateful, very dramatic.

2099
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,560
Speaker 3: The Advocate of the Year, congress Woman Jasmine Crockett, went political.

2100
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 22: Only organized Outrage Overcomes.

2101
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 3: Oppression and the Taktok Stars Jake Shane, he did it

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Speaker 3: Tech Talk Stars.

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Speaker 4: I want to say more.

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01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 3: There we go and I want to say no, I

2105
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 3: counted it as well. I want to say more.

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01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 16: Yeah, I guess, I guess if we pull him up,

2107
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 16: we're being visa.

2108
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 3: He shouldn't, though he should because he was like because

2109
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 3: classic classic baby children. They can't say a word, they

2110
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 3: can't say a sentence. Where that unlike anyway.

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01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 16: I suppose TikTok he can usually do as many texts

2112
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 16: as he wants going, Shearon sing to play us out

2113
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 16: tonight because apparently, according to that serve you were talking

2114
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 16: about earlier, he is the best value you can go

2115
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 16: to a concert permit.

2116
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 3: It was Usher.

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01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 16: Yeah, so Usher is if you would go buy song

2118
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 16: three dollars seventy six a song insurant ninety one cents

2119
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 16: per minute, so you do.

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Speaker 3: Have to sit through. And Sharon, well, this is the whole.

2121
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 21: Thing with me.

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01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 16: I mean, if you like a Landadel Ray song, you

2123
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 16: won't care that she only played ten. You'd rather watch

2124
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 16: ten of those than forty in schering songs, wouldn't you,

2125
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 16: no matter how many much you're paying a minute?

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Speaker 3: Pree Sester, enjoy it. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to

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Speaker 1: news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.