1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes warm 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: and try this winter news Talk said, be good morning. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to Thursday, just gone six minutes after five. Coming 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: up on the show this morning, we'll get to the 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: bottom of the transgender guidelines in sport. Is this all 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: a storm and a tea cupnos before six? Vincent mcavnie 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: out of the UK for us this morning? Who's hiking 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: our great walks? You might be surprised to see the numbers. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: We have a new report on homelessness which will run 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: you through this morning. And you know that ad campaign 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: everyone must go. The government says it's been a stonking success. 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: We'll give you those numbers this morning too. 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: The agenda. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: It is Thursday, the twenty fourth of July. More than 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: one hundred AID agencies saying that a mass starvation event 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: is happening in Gaza humas reckons ten of diet of nutrition. 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Just in the last twenty four. 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: Hours, I saw children again walking through the streets with 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: empty looking for food, children walking with antea bottles looking 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: for water, children listless, children visibly sen We were at 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: a tipping point in Gaza's I've never seen anything like 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: this in my whole career of over twenty years working 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: in this section. 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: The UN Security Council is going to hold an urgent meeting, 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: so that'll solve things, won't it. Meanwhile, Donald Trump has 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: a trade deal with Japan. They just saying the largest 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: trade deal in history, I think maybe the largest deal 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: of history with Japan. 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: And that was done with Japan. 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: They had their top people here and we worked. 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: On it long and haired and it's a great deal 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: for everybody. 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: So the interesting part about this is Japanese vehicles their 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: tariffs will be cut from twenty five or actually twenty 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: seven point five to down to fifteen percent, so they're 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: very happy. Companies like nis and and Zeki very happy today. 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Senden thing underway. For Idaho killer Brian Coburger, who stared 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: four university students to death in twenty twenty two, the 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: courtroom has been listening to emotional victim impact statements. This 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: one of the surviving roommates have a listen because. 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 5: Of him, for it beautiful, genuine, compassionate for. 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 3: You, pall. 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: We're taken from. 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: This world for no reason. 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 5: He didn't just take their leaves he took the weight 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 5: that carried it into every room. He took away who 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: they were becoming in the futures they were going to have. 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: He keeps his life. By the way, he avoided the 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: death penalty because he pleaded guilty earlier this month and 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: never given a motive. By the way, no idea why 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: he did that. Tributes have been flowing in for rock 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: legend Ozzie Osborne. He died yesterday at the age of 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: seventy six. Alton John says he was quote one of 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: the funniest people I've ever met. While rolling stones. Guitarist 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: Ronnie wood his final concert at Villa Park was described 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: as a glorious way to say goodbye. 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on early edition with an ex bol insulation 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: keeping Kili homes warm and try this winter news talks'b. 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Finton mcaviniel have more reaction to that, by the way, 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: after a news at five point thirty this morning. So 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: a couple of things to run you through. I'll just 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: start with this International Court of Justice in the Hague 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: coming out with a ruling overnight. So what happened was 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: there was a group of students, young people from Vanuatu. 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: One of the Pacific Islands who decided they take a 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: case all the way through their government, all the way 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: to the International Court of Justice in the Hague about 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: climate change, and the International Court of Justice will wait 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: for it. You can probably imagine a landmark decision from them. 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: They have cleared the way for countries to do each 72 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: other over climate change. So I presumably a Pacific island 73 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: could sue India or China for its coal fired power 74 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: production that heats the planet. So that's that's they have 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: given the all clear. Yep, you can start suing the 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: hell out of each other. Lawyer up, is what they've said. 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: But here's the problem. How do you prove how do 78 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: you untangle who calls which part of climate change? Now 79 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: the ruling non binding could have wide ranging consequences. Well, 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: it's non binding, so let's settle down for a second. 81 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: It's non binding. And also, how would you ever prove 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: because you know, this is just off the cuff here, 83 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: but I think we feed something like forty million people 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: with our produce every year, you know, with our meat, 85 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: with our dairy. Yet we're a country of five million. 86 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: Do we take on you know, with methane emissions? Do 87 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: we take on all of that responsibility. What about the 88 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: forty million people who are eating our food? Are they 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: going to shoulder They're part of that burden. Where do 90 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: you stop? How do you prove this? 91 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: So? 92 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I suppose they've got to decide something 93 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: in practice. How will that actually work? Eleven after five, 94 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: news Talks said, be, we've got some new transgender well 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: a cancelation of some transgender guidelines in school, which will 96 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: interest you. We'll get to that a little later, but 97 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: next we'll look at these homelessness numbers with Chinese tapsle ondor. 98 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 99 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and x Fole insulation keeping Kiwi 100 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry. This winter news Talk said, be. 101 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: It is thirteen minutes after five. Everyone Must Go was 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: the campaign that we launched at the Aussies. Unfortunately a 103 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: lot of New Zealanders looked at the ad and left 104 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: in winter Australia. But in terms of tourism, the government 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: reckons it's been a stonking success. Their press release on 106 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: this this morning take that tourism campaigner hit with Aussies 107 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: because they caught some flat fruit, so they reckon they 108 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: forecast they would get an additional six thousand, seven hundred 109 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: and fifty tourists to the country, and this is over 110 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: autumn ended up significantly exceeding expectations. Tourism New Zealand stats, 111 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: according to Louise Upston, say that they got nine hundred 112 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: and eighty one visitors, smashing the initial forecast eight hundred deals. 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: Apparently this is how they did it. You get the 114 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: tourism operators to offer deals, so they had eight hundred 115 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: deals from four hundred and fifty operators, included accommodation, transport, 116 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. How much did it cost us? 117 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: Half a million dollars and an additional three hundred thousand dollars. 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: But if those numbers are to be believed and you 119 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: can attribute them to the campaign, then you'd have to 120 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: say that it has been successful. Quarter past five Brian. 121 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: Finally we got some numbers on homelessness and not that 122 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: pretty Nearly five thousand kiwis a living across the country. Now, 123 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: we looked at the census data that's the most recent 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: and solidly reliable, a thirty seven percent jump between twenty 125 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: eighteen and twenty twenty three. Auckland has seen aspite Christ 126 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: Church up Taranaki up a two hundred and fifty fifty 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: percent in just six months. One of the regions facing 128 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: homelessness is Rota do Atania Tapsle's the mayor with me now, 129 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 2: Hi Tanya, good morning, Good to have you on the show. 130 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Do you think it's going up in your area? 131 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 6: Well, we've actually had targeted intervention to get it down, 132 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 6: but what we have seen is probably there's a lot 133 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: of transient people across the country, so you know, as 134 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 6: emergency house, your motiles, clothes, or they're not able to 135 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: find accommodation, they're starting to go to other regions. And 136 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 6: it's been interesting because we've recently had the local government 137 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 6: conference where I spoke with other mayors who were saying, hey, 138 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 6: we're getting your homeless or hey, they're coming from Auckland again. 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 6: So I think it's good that the government's looking at 140 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 6: a national approach because you know what blew my mind. 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 6: At present, over five hundred and fifty million dollars it's 142 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: spent annually on this half. 143 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: A billion we're spending on homelessness agencies, multiple agencies, transitional housing, 144 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: housing first rapid rehousing, other support services. Do you think 145 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: more because this will inevitably be the call Tanya, we 146 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: need more money for more wrap around services. Is that 147 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: going to solve it? 148 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 6: No, I don't. And actually what I really acknowledge Minister 149 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: Bishop and also Minister Pawtucker on is when I looked 150 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 6: at their latest report that's come out, they're really focusing 151 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 6: on funding what works, so not only about better utilizing 152 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 6: existing programs quote, but also funding what works. And this 153 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 6: is actually really smart because we've seen this significant waste 154 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 6: of money on emergency housing motiles where the motalitias are 155 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 6: the only ones succeeding. They're getting really rich millions of 156 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 6: dollars a year and actually it's bad for the communities 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 6: and it's not safe for those in the homes. So 158 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 6: definitely the housing Growth program is working. That's why we've 159 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 6: seen a significant reduction in it. To do it, we 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 6: almost finished all of our emergency house emotiles by the way. 161 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 7: That's great. 162 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 6: But what we really need to do, and what the 163 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 6: government has been pretty good at eiven on board, is 164 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 6: focusing on how do we stop this like for good. 165 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 6: It's not only about addressing the urgent issue, but how 166 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 6: do we go Hey, there's a real problem in our country. 167 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: How do we stop people being at risk of homeless 168 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 6: and when they do come up on the systems, how 169 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 6: do we assist them appropriately? 170 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: Tony, you said that at the start of this interview 171 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: about people coming between Who are these people that go 172 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: between regions? 173 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 6: So it was quite interesting. In the report as well, 174 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 6: they looked at the demographic breakdowns of those who are 175 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 6: living without shelter, and the median age was actually fifty 176 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 6: five years and often the biggest reason was, and I 177 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 6: think it was around about sety percent off the top 178 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 6: of my head, was people who have had a relationship 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 6: breakdown or a breakup, And honestly, that's what I was 180 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 6: hearing from the people in the motowns as well. So 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 6: you know, people are living tough, they're going week to 182 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 6: week and sometimes there is a genuine need for transitional housing. 183 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 6: But what I acknowledge is that there's a clear message 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 6: that we will end the large scale use of motels 185 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 6: for emergency house. 186 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely on the way out, Tony. Thank you, Tonya. 187 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: Tap swort or through a mere time is eighteen minutes 188 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: after five. There is interesting stuff in this report, including 189 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: it talks about insurance. So you've got private landlords who 190 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: are pulling out of providing community housing and community housing 191 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: providers pulling out of providing that help because they can't 192 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: get insurance. Why because the people who are needing the 193 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: help increasingly on meth anti social behavior, severe mental health, 194 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: and so insurance companies up the premiums because if you 195 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: put someone like that in the house, the chances of 196 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: being destroyed are actually quite big. Just gone nineteen after 197 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: five news talks there b and we'll talk about the 198 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: dock huts. Who's staying in our dock huts on our 199 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: Great Walks. Numbers might surprise you. 200 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: That's next get ahead of the headlines on early edition 201 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and ex Fole Insulation, keeping Kiwi, Holmes 202 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: warm and Drey this winter news talks. 203 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: They'd be twenty one after five. Good news for our 204 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: dock sites this morning. More than six hundred thousand beds 205 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: were being booked at dock huts, campsites and Great Walks 206 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: over the summer, bringing in more than thirteen million bucks. 207 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: Doc says sixty percent of those walk the tracks were 208 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: domestic travelers. That's up twelve percent on the summer before. 209 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: Meghan demes Aantos as president of the Federated Mountain Clubs 210 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: joining me this morning. Hi Meghan, sure to Ryan. Good 211 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: to have you on the show. So is this just 212 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: because we've got more kiwis doing it or fewer, you know, 213 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: foreign tourists here. What's the situation? 214 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 8: Well, I think you may have also noticed that doc 215 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 8: said that they were back to ninety three percent of 216 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 8: their pre COVID level. So I don't think it's because 217 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 8: there's there's less international tourists here that I guess. We 218 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 8: live in such a beautiful so why not get out 219 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 8: in it? But yeah, I guess there's probably a couple 220 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 8: of reasons. And I think the ease of getting information 221 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 8: to start out in the great outdoors is relatively easy. 222 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 8: You know, there's relatively low barriers to entry, and I 223 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 8: think I think that's that's one of the main reasons 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 8: why we're seeing more and more people pick it up. 225 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. This report says that fifty percent of 226 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: foreigners who come here ahead to a national park, which 227 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,359 Speaker 2: is great, and also that the tourism on public conservation 228 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: land is actually worth three and a half billion dollars 229 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: a year. 230 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 8: I know, wouldn't it be great to see more A 231 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 8: figure more commensurate to that come through in the budget 232 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 8: for doc as well. 233 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 6: Well. 234 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you do you think we're 235 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: charging enough for the dock huts, the nightly stay. I mean, 236 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: we would probably need to subsidize people who couldn't afford it. 237 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: But do you think if they're always full or they're full, 238 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: do we charge more so that we can fix the tracks? 239 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 8: Yeah. Look, it's a it's an interesting debate to have, 240 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 8: and and like you mentioned, it's really important that we 241 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 8: don't that we don't price people out of their their 242 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 8: own backyard. I think that that probably a question that 243 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 8: that should also be asked is whether potentially dock providing 244 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 8: an opportunity that's a little bit too elaborate as well. 245 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 8: You know, I think that toning down their ever standards 246 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 8: would be the equivalent to to charging more and people 247 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 8: would still have a great experience. 248 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: What suit, What do you mean get rid of the 249 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 2: toilet paper? 250 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 8: No, not really, I mean I mean I think things 251 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 8: like you know, if you if you look at the 252 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 8: cost of when of of of the build of great 253 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 8: wall cuts and tracks, and they have really hyper kilometer 254 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 8: cost compared to other types of tracks. But also things 255 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 8: like provide gas and hearts, which costs a lot of 256 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 8: money because you have to fly in providing split firewood. 257 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 8: You know, potentially they could look at providing rounds that 258 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 8: people split on site themselves, which is all part of 259 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 8: the experience has been in the back country. So I 260 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 8: think that there's a few ways that the department could 261 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 8: avoid having to keep increasing crisis. 262 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Interesting, Meghan, that's really I hadn't thought of that before. 263 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: But there is always cut firewood, isn't there, And often 264 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: if it's a busy hout, there's gas. That is Meghan 265 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: Demos Aantos, the president of Federated Mountain Clubs, talking about 266 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: those numbers of dock cuts. How would you feel turning 267 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: up and having to cut your own firewood? I mean 268 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: you couldn't do it in some conditions, obviously, nine the 269 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: number to text just gone twenty five after five. Will 270 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: get to a bit more detail on those homeless figures 271 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: in a second, and also we'll figure out what's going 272 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: on with Trump and trade in Japan. 273 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: The early edition full the show podcast I Am Radio 274 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: How It by News. 275 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: Talks IVB News TALKSB twenty seven minutes after five. You've 276 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: got a text in which is I'm going to speak 277 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: to you about homelessness, but this is the kind of 278 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: text that I was wanting to address. So Ryan, the 279 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: government and Christopher Luxen are proud of the way that 280 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: they're dealing with homelessness. Are you kidding me? He's a 281 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: frickin idiot, says this Texter. It's harder to get and 282 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: keep a benefit, harder to get social housing, and abolishing 283 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: emergency housing in motels. I wonder what they have to 284 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: be proud of. Well, there is a new political battlefront 285 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: opening up on homelessness. Nobody wants to see streets dotted 286 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: with tents like they do in San Francisco and downtown LA. 287 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: So we've got this report to Tama Paultucker doesn't nail 288 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: the problem. There are basically more people living rough, but 289 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: we can't say for sure how many more, and even 290 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: if we could, how statistically significant the change might be. 291 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: But because we had census data, we know it got 292 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: way worse under labor, up thirty seven percent from twenty 293 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty twenty three. The councils are reporting what 294 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: your economists might call high frequency data that things are 295 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: getting worse. So stuff like phone calls and reports are concerned. 296 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: They're getting from the public the real question, which is 297 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: the basis of what the opposition's upset about. Did the 298 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: government's crack down on emergency housing cause a wave of homelessness, 299 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: you know, homeless refugees camping out on the streets as 300 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: a result. That's the question. And here's the numbers. The 301 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: number of households living in emergency motels is down by 302 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: seventy five percent. Eighty five percent, or at least eighty 303 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: percent of them went on to some form of housing. 304 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: So that's great. They managed to smash through the list 305 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: and get most people housed. That's a success, surely. And 306 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: this is where Labour's claim gets a bit murky. Declines 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: so people applying for the emergency housing declients are on 308 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: the increase, but mostly rejected because their client either wasn't 309 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: eligible or could be helped in another way. Increase in 310 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: homelessness doesn't necessarily mean the emergency accommodation changes were a disaster. 311 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: In fact, the numbers would, at least on the face 312 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: of them, appear to show it's been wildly successful at 313 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: getting people out of motels and into actual homes, including 314 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: by the way, two thousand children. 315 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge twenty nine minutes. 316 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: After five, News Talk SEBB get to Vincent mcavnie out 317 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: of the UK after news our reporters around the country. 318 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: News Talk SEBB. 319 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 320 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kili Holmes warm 321 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: and dry. This winter News Talk set by. 322 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: The Pumpey. 323 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: Morning. 324 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: It is tw twenty four away from six. You're on 325 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 2: Newstalk sev B. I've got some numbers for you on renting. 326 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: It's slightly related to the homeless topic we've done for 327 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: the last half hour, but this is on renting, so 328 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: and it's good. It's good results. In fact, the first 329 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: sort of good news if you're a renter. Potentially since 330 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: as far back as two thousand and nine, so this 331 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: is a fall in the amount, well the increase in rents. 332 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: So New Zealand rental markets started to swing in favor 333 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: of tenants. This is according to a core Logic Catality 334 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: report this morning. Obviously your contributors are easing migration, so 335 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: you've got few people coming in here, You've got an 336 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: increase in supply of the stock and so as a result, 337 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: takes the heat out of the rents. So your national 338 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: median rent in the three months to May was down 339 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: zero point three percent from last year. Sure it's not massive, 340 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: but it is the first time that has decreased since 341 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. Auckland Meeting weekly rent dropped two 342 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 2: percent to four percent over the past year to six 343 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks. Wellington City. Well, no surprise there 344 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: a decline of point eight down to six hundred and 345 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: two dollars total. On that christ Church. You're also softer. 346 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: It is twenty two away from six Bryan, just go 347 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 2: to our reporters around the country, Colums and nenedanculum longest 348 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: running longitudinal study, the Dnedian Study. We like to talk 349 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 2: about it and it's set to help international policies now, Yeah, 350 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: it is. 351 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 9: This is the Denedan Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study, Ryan, 352 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 9: it's collaborating with the OECD now to help policymakers around 353 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 9: the world understand how early life experiences shape whether we 354 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 9: thrive or struggle in the future. The Denedan Study follows 355 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 9: the lives of more than a thousand babies born into 356 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 9: need in between nineteen seventy two and seventy three. The 357 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 9: study highlights the importance of using birth cohort data to 358 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 9: improve social policy discussions globally, and so researchers say this 359 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 9: study will now help inform those type for social policies. 360 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: Around the world. All Right, how's your weather. 361 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 9: It's another freezer? Fine, but morning frosts this morning nor 362 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 9: the least developing the heights today thirteen. 363 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: All right, thank you Claires in christ this morning, Claire, 364 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: good morning. Now you've got a new poll, have you 365 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: the mayors? Yes? So. 366 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 10: The Taxpayer's Union Curier poll has revealed that Phil Major 367 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 10: has surged nineteen points in popularity this quarter. That makes 368 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 10: him the most popular mayor when it comes to big 369 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 10: city mayors. Interestingly, though, he is still quite a distance 370 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 10: from the best in the country. In fact, he's twenty 371 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 10: six on a list of fifty three from right across 372 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 10: the country that includes the big cities as well as 373 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 10: the small town's. Coming in at number one, though, is 374 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 10: another Canterbury name why Muck and Eddi's Dan Gordon. For Auckland, 375 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 10: Dwayne Brown's popularity has held steady at sixteen points. Wellington's 376 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 10: Torrey Farno's improved, but she's still minus eighteen Now. Taxpayers 377 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 10: Union's James Ross says Major's big swing comes in line 378 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 10: with his support of rates capping. He says the takeaway 379 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 10: for other mural candidates from this poll is that they 380 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 10: should follow christ Church's footsteps as clearly something is working. 381 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: Clearly it is how's you wear the clear? 382 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 10: A bit of frost about here too clearing too fine, 383 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 10: northeasterlies and the high will be twelve brilliant. 384 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: Thank you Mex and Wellington Rex good morning. We've got 385 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: a guilty verdict in the Kendala murder trial. 386 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 11: Yeah, this came through last night. This trial really crept 387 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 11: into people's consciousnesses in Wellington and indeed nationally. Julia Deloney 388 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 11: accused of murdering her elderly mother in her suburban home 389 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 11: over reported money problems. Deloney accused of stealing from the 390 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 11: seventy nine year old, became a little too obsessed with 391 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 11: crypto investments, didn't trust banks, would stash bags of cash 392 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 11: around her home, including in her freezer. A jury deciding 393 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 11: yesterday evening she did indeed fatally assault her mother Gregory, 394 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 11: and then stage the scene, moved the body, tried to 395 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 11: make it look like an intruder had come in. Possibly 396 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 11: a case of mistaken identity. An audible gasp or cry 397 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 11: from the packed public gallery when the verdict was read 398 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 11: out last night. The court has been packed all trial long. 399 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 11: Deluney herself appeared to be fighting back tears. Sentencing now 400 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 11: September five. 401 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: Okay, how's your wear? The max A cold. 402 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 11: Start here as well, but mostly fine today with later. 403 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 11: When's thirteen the high Thank you? 404 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: Neva's in Auckland, Neva, good morning, good morning? Should I 405 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: say Neva or should I say missus Claus? 406 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 12: Actually, people out there set I'd be a great missus Clause. 407 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 12: It would be, but I don't like children, so that's 408 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 12: not a good star. 409 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: Plus what do you actually do? For most of the 410 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: year you're overseeing a factory line, your slave labor. 411 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 12: People thinking what are they talking about? It's an early 412 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 12: start for center recruitment with the old and new centers 413 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 12: jingling and mingling. This is happening over the next two days, 414 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 12: starting in Auckland today. So the event is run by 415 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 12: talent agencies, Scene to Believe and is going to christ 416 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 12: Church tomorrow apparently, so this is where people come together. 417 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 12: She had tips and learn new center skills. So the 418 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 12: hunt is also one for people to join the growing crew. 419 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 12: You need photographers, the ol missus claws. Apparently it's a 420 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 12: very lengthy process, so recruit it's got to start now. 421 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: I don't understand learn new Santa skills. You just sit 422 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: there but with a beard on and this day and. 423 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 12: Age though, you know, like do you sit on the 424 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 12: sanded Nana? Do you sit on the label? 425 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. So you think maybe they need a 426 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: good six months for security checks the background. 427 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 12: I think they do and walk and talk and pose 428 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 12: as well as work with the children and say, you know, 429 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 12: like what do kids say? 430 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: Do they still say? 431 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 12: Can I have this and this and this and this? 432 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they give you a list presumably, but I mean 433 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: in terms of poses, you're completely covered from here to time. Yeah, 434 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: give me a smise. 435 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 12: Even as a kidn't get Did you go to those 436 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 12: big departments stores? No? 437 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I didn't either. 438 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: Well, ours was Coastlin's the rhythm of the coast, and 439 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: there wasn't much rhythm. How's that? We there? Fine? 440 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 12: Morning frosts and shelter places. Fifteen is a high here 441 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 12: today in Auckland. 442 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: Brilliant. Thank you. That's Neva in Auckland and the rest 443 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 2: of our team around the country eighteen minutes away from 444 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: six here on news, Talk to Bible, get to Vincent 445 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 2: Mecavinie out of the UK next. Some reaction, strong reaction 446 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: from big British pop stars to the death of Ozzie Osbourne. 447 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace of mind 448 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business, big. 449 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: Change on the way, potentially big change on the way 450 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: for trains, athletes and sports. We'll get to ventness sick 451 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: and right now though, we're going to Vincent Mecavinie, our 452 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: UK correspondent, Vincent. A huge reaction outpouring to the death 453 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: of Ozzie Osbourne. Yeah, that's right. 454 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: About twenty four hours ago the news broke that the 455 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 4: legendary rocker had passed away. We're still not sure what 456 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: exactly happened, but we now understand an air ambulance was 457 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: to dispatched to his home and paramedics battled for two hours, 458 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: we understand to try to save him, but sadly he 459 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 4: passed away. He had had health struggles in recent years 460 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: following a Parkinson's diagnosis. The tributes have been pouring in 461 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 4: from across the music industry, from not just rock bands, 462 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: but from the life of Elton John as well members 463 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: of Rolling Stones paying tribute to him, his musical legacy 464 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 4: and him being just a generally funny person, many have remarked. 465 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: And so in his hometown of Birmingham, which is in 466 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 4: the Midlands, the city in the Midlands of the UK, 467 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: tributes have been laid there, lots of people gathering to 468 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: pay tribute to him, a city which he had played 469 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: indeed his farewell show less than three weeks ago. 470 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the malnutrition, the mess, starvation of it's being called 471 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: now in Gaza. Is anyone in Europe seriously sanctioning Israel 472 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: over at Yeat or are they threatening to No? 473 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 4: I mean there was a letter that went out yesterday 474 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: from about twenty six nations, including the UK, which said 475 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: that this must be stopped, and today one hundred international 476 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: aid organizations writing saying that not only are the people 477 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: of Gaza wasting away, but also NGO workers, doctors, humanitarians 478 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: in Gaza trying to assist themselves are now suffering little 479 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: food getting through in the disbursement method having been taken 480 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 4: away from sort of the UN to this sort of 481 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: Israel America backed so called humanitarian foundation where they're the 482 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 4: sort of doing instead of multiple small sites, these big 483 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: sites where we've seen these mass shooting incidents. People now 484 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: simply starving, not getting enough food and water, and the 485 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 4: doctors and nurses themselves trying to help out apparently getting 486 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: too weak to be able to do so. Something we've 487 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: heard as well from AFP, the French journalists organization. They're 488 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 4: saying that their reporters on the ground are sort of 489 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 4: two weak now to carry out their duties because there's 490 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: just simply not enough food in medicine getting in appreciate. 491 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: Your time, Vincent make of Any, a UK correspondent, just 492 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: gone twelve minutes away. 493 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: From six Bryan Bridge, so. 494 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 2: If you're just joining us this morning. The government has 495 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: told Sport New Zealand to scrap its transgender guidelines. Can 496 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: like completely scrap them. It was originally ours to review them, 497 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 2: now being told just stay out of it altogether. Thank 498 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: you very much. Individual sports organizations will continue to make 499 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 2: the call around gender and community sport. Row Edges from 500 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: Save Women's Sport joins me this morning, road, Good morning. 501 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 7: Good morning Lane. 502 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: They were only guidelines to begin with. Is this a 503 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: big deal? 504 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is because unfortunately Sport you're doing to hold 505 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 7: the funding leaders for sports throughout the country, and so 506 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 7: they all felt compelled to adopt them. You know, like, 507 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 7: we really welcome this decision to dump them because it 508 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 7: supported boys and men in the male advantage playing and 509 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 7: girls and women's sport, And it was an ideological policy 510 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 7: that while the intent I know was honorable, it was 511 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 7: obviously injectives to include males who identify as females and 512 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 7: women's sport couldn't be done without compromising FeNiS and safety 513 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 7: for our female athletes. 514 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: This is we're talking about community sports here, right, It's 515 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: not elite sport. Is that is that not a different 516 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: kettle of fish? 517 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 7: It is totally not a different kill of fish. Community 518 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 7: sports is all sport up until you represent your country. 519 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 7: So it includes regional competitions, national age grade competitions. That 520 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 7: is the half way through to allege sport. And you 521 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 7: know it's been in safety matters at elite level, it 522 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 7: matters at community level too. 523 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: What happens because it's the individual organizations the bodies that 524 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: set their own rules. So do you think that they 525 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: will listen to this or not listen to this, I 526 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: mean whatever, Have any of them changed their rules based 527 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: on the old guidelines to begin with. 528 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, they already have transfer on New Zealand and boxing 529 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 7: New Zealand have already moved to change their guidelines and 530 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 7: they protect the female category, and a lot of other 531 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 7: sports have had THEIRS in review. I think waiting on 532 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 7: this decision, the landscape of transgender inclusion sport has evolved 533 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 7: significantly since those guiding principles were first introduced. At the time, 534 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 7: sports did need some help because the IOC had made 535 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 7: this announcement which has done the world opening up the 536 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 7: female category and treating women as nothing more than men 537 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 7: with lower testosterone. But most international sporting federations now has 538 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 7: moved to protect the female category and this allows our 539 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 7: national federations to follow suits. 540 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: Okay, right, do you hate trains people? This is whatever? 541 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 7: Oh gosh, we want everyone to be included, and but 542 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 7: we play sport with our bodies, not our identity, so 543 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 7: it needs to be in the category of your biological chech. 544 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time this morning, wrote Edge Save Women's Sport Australasia. 545 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: New Zealand spokesperson just gone ten minutes away from six 546 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: here on news Talks VB AD a time like this, 547 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: we're paying down our mortgages. Some interesting numbers out yesterday. 548 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: Have to know what I'll bring you. But paying down 549 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: our mortgages at a rate we potentially haven't ever done before, 550 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: which is well good and bad actually for the economy. 551 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: It's ten to sex News Talks, VB. 552 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's 553 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge at Expol Insulation Keeping 554 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: Kiwi Homes Warm and Drey this Winter. 555 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: News Talks EDB seven to six on News Talks VB. 556 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: So turns out we're paying down our mortgage, which is 557 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: good and bad because it means that the money that 558 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: you're spending you're using to pay down your mortgage is 559 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: not going into the economy, but it is going down 560 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: to pay your mortgage, which the banks don't like because 561 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: then they have to find somewhere to put that money. 562 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: But for the year to June, this was twenty two 563 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: point six billion dollars in interest paid on housing loans 564 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: in New Zealand, which is close to an all time high. 565 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: June quarter, Borrow has made seven and a half billion 566 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: in regular payments that you'd expect to make, but then 567 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: we topped it up. Good on you four point six 568 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: billion in excess payments, so yes, we will pay off 569 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: our mortgage is fast. As a result of that, the 570 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: June level was easily, according to Interest dot Co, the 571 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: most ever on record. As I say, the banks then 572 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: have something somewhere to find to put that cash. And 573 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: as for Donald Trump and his deal with Japan, biggest deal, 574 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: he says, in the history of the world, certainly the 575 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: best deal since Liberation Day. And if she been needed 576 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: this the rumors he would resign, He's stamped on those 577 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: the US. It's, of course, Japan's biggest export market, and 578 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: Japan is the fourth largest economy in the world, so 579 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 2: this is significant. Tarif's come down to fifteen percent, and 580 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: the automakers of Japan particularly happy with that number. Just 581 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: gone six to six in the studio, Make good morning, 582 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: Good to see you're right great, Toe is always you've 583 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: been paying down the mortgage, but everybody's been doing. 584 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 13: Not a fan of debt, never been a fan of debt. 585 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 13: How bad on a scale of one to ten, Let 586 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 13: me ask you this question, on a scale of one 587 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 13: to ten, ten being shocking, one being no worries at all? 588 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 13: How bad was Nichola Willis yesterday post post Milkkake. 589 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: To be honest, I'm not shocked, So I won't be 590 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: ticking the shock box because you're not shocked at what 591 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: but the reaction that she had. 592 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 13: You're you're not shocked at the fact she didn't know 593 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 13: how butter's made and what it costs. 594 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: No, she knew that. Obviously she didn't, but she was 595 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: obviously going into the meeting. 596 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 13: You were it was a dumb game. 597 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: It was a pr exercise. 598 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 13: So you think that that it's valuable for the Finance 599 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 13: Minister of the New Zealand economy to rack people up 600 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 13: and going I'll tell you what. I'm going to get 601 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 13: Niles in the office and I'm going to give him 602 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 13: a good word and then come out and go, oh, 603 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 13: he said, it's not really a scandal. 604 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: I think it's politically expedient. Do you wrut ultimately a 605 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: waste of our time? 606 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 13: Do you think we can't see through that going going 607 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 13: into it? Everybody knows? Does no one know? There's an 608 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 13: article somewhere in the paper this morning it goes, we're 609 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 13: a nation of cows, so why is butter so expensive? 610 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 13: Do you honestly tell me that there are a chunk 611 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 13: of New Zealanders, including the finance minister that don't know 612 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 13: how butter's made and how it's The. 613 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: Finance minister knows how it's made, but she's playing to 614 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: the crowd who perhaps don't know as well. Those people 615 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: are there, well, I would guess probably the majority who 616 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: just go to the Nope, no think about it, go 617 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: to the supermarket and look at the price a butt 618 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: it and say if you if. 619 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 13: That's two different things looking at a price of something 620 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 13: and going that's that's expensive. That's fine because we all 621 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 13: agree it's expensive. No one argues it's not expensive, but 622 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 13: you can understand why it's expensive. Therefore, if you can 623 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 13: understand why it's expensive, you can't be upset because there's 624 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 13: a rationale behind it. And therefore, as a leader in 625 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 13: the community, which is what the finance minister is, you 626 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 13: shouldn't be in the busines of I. 627 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: Don't know what's going on. Yeah, but that's just playing 628 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: and it's just playing the game. Just send it to 629 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: the same thing. I mean, but she was useless. 630 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 13: I thought Nikola Willis was about credibility. 631 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: Well clearly, not clearly, not all I'd say, But the 632 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: question was am I shock fight No? No, sadly not 633 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: shot fight at all? Hey, have you got it? Shearon 634 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: on today? I do grace, it's luck would have Ryan? 635 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 13: I take it that wasn't a question out of left field? 636 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: Well no, I heard an ad and I thought we 637 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: didn't actually tease anything about your show us today, so 638 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: we why not throw that in there? 639 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 13: Well, come on, teach shear and tease more, id Sheeran 640 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 13: after Price the Butter and bashing Nikola. 641 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 642 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 643 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio