1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720
Speaker 1: Putin's playing a game of chicken with the Europeans, and

2
00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,440
Speaker 1: so far the Europeans are the chickens. The NATO has

3
00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,360
Speaker 1: pretty much done nothing but talk about these fighter jets

4
00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,200
Speaker 1: and drones intercepted a couple. Take your pick of experts

5
00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880
Speaker 1: and former military bosses chiming in on the why over

6
00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,800
Speaker 1: the weekend, and you'll get as many different answers. Are

7
00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,800
Speaker 1: these incursions a mistake, No, there's too many of them now.

8
00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919
Speaker 1: It's orchestrated clearly. So he's doing this for one of

9
00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,960
Speaker 1: two reasons. To keep more territory in Ukraine, freak the

10
00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,120
Speaker 1: Europeans a bit they might buckle and give them more

11
00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,559
Speaker 1: of what he wants. Or he's picking off countries one

12
00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,800
Speaker 1: by one to test the NATO response, lining up his

13
00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,720
Speaker 1: next target. Does NATO respond differently to a Polish incursion

14
00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,920
Speaker 1: than a Danish one? The point of NATO is that

15
00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,240
Speaker 1: it shouldn't matter. It should be all for one, one

16
00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,520
Speaker 1: for all. The question then becomes, how do you deal

17
00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,960
Speaker 1: with that? And you've got to listen to a guy

18
00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,440
Speaker 1: called Maritz Break. He's with the Center for Advanced Security,

19
00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,280
Speaker 1: Strategic and Integration Studies. He says, you've got to be

20
00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,279
Speaker 1: more forceful with the Russians. The Turks. They shot down

21
00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,720
Speaker 1: a Russian jet back in twenty fifteen. You might remember

22
00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 1: that seconds after it entered their airspace. And guess what.

23
00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,399
Speaker 1: Putin didn't go to war with Turkey, did he. The

24
00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,400
Speaker 1: fighter pilots from Russia learned pretty quickly just whose airspace

25
00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,920
Speaker 1: belongs to who. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge,

26
00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,440
Speaker 1: listen live to News Talk Set B from five am weekdays,

27
00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,760
Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio