1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Frame bridge. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Google this week unveiled its third generation quantum computing chip 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: called Willow, to much excitement. It's considered the fastest computer 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: chip ever produced and solves problems at remarkable speed. So 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: let's have a look at what investors are thinking about this. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Sam Dicky from Fisher Funds is with me. Sam, Good evening, 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Good evening, Ryn. Give us a bit of a background here. 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: What is First of all, what's um quantum computing and 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: how does it differ from classical computing. 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so classical computing harnesses classical physics to process data. 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: So remember bits, bits of binary only one state at 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: a time, either a zero or one, a yes or no, 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 3: while quantum computing harnesses quantum physics. So we're the so 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: called cubits which are the building blocks of quantum chips, 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: while bits of the building blocks of normal chips. They 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: can exist in multiple states at once, so they can 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: be zero or one or both at once, or anything 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: in between. So, if you think about it in a 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: simplistic way, if the classical computer was so in a 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: jigsaw puddle puzzle, it would have to try each piece 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: one at a time at binary zero, one, yes or no, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: whether the piece fits, while a quantum computer, when it 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: was solving the same jigsaw puzzle would try all of 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: the pieces all at the same time, considering all possible 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: solutions simultaneously. So it just means it's exponentially faster than 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: a classical computer. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: In other words, Willow is the brainy kit in class. 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: That's right, it's the race source, that's right. 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: So let's go to the new chip. Then what is 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: that and why is that? 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: You know that? 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I can understand the hype given what you've 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: just said, but why the hype about will Open in particular. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, So they released it two days ago and it's 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: making headlines because it can perform what is a sort 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: of a benchmark extremely complex computation used in quantum computing, 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: in under five minutes. 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: So that's a. 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: Task that would take the world's top classical supercomputers ten 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: septillion years to complete. So that's the number with twenty 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: four zeros, which is far longer than the age of 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: our universe, and Willow consulted in five minutes. And what 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: happened here is Google cracked it a thirty year long 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: struggle in quantum computing, so older quantum computing chips found 45 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: that the rate of error is multiplied as you added 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: more cubits those building blocks of quantum computing chips. But 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: Google figured out how to make the rate of eras 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: full exponentially as you scale up or add cubits. 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: So then absolute game changer and quantum computing. 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: Is it a human that is creating this or is 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: it a computer that's creating this? 52 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, combination. 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's the Google's Google Quantum AI division in 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: Santa Barbara. 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: There's about three hundred of them. Three hundred people that 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: is that. 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: That's not the computers, and obviously they're exceptionally intelligent, but 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: clearly using AI and generative AI and super compu classical 59 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: supercomputers to create these quantum computing chips. 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: Incredible stuff. What are the what do you do with 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: something like that? What are the applications? 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Show off? No, No, I'm just. 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: Much faster drug discovery, potential breakthroughs, and this is all 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: this is coming from Satya. 65 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm not Satya. 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: Sorry, this is coming from the sea of Google potential 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: breakthroughs and fusion fusion energy, so the ultimate limitless clean 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: energy and the winners of this, I guess those at 69 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: the forefront of quantum computing the losers. It'll be interesting 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: if this does become commercially viable, which is still an if. 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: It could be companies that have made their beds developing 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: classical computer chips, like Intel or Samsung, but those companies 73 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: are just to be clear, investing in quantum computing as well. 74 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: What does this mean for investors. 75 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: Well, Google's added a lazy quarter of a trillion dollars 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: in market cap in the two day last two days 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: since the announcement. And we've talked about Google before in 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: the show, Ryan, So remember back in March and again September, 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: the market was punishing the stock and calling it an 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: a I laggard and legacy search business as you know 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: Open ai and chat GPT. We're getting all that the accolades, 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: and of course that's not true. And when you take 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: a step back and just look at Google narrowly for 84 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: a sec, Yes, it's got its search business with ninety 85 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: seven percent market share. It's also got its generalive AI 86 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: suite of tools like Gemini, it has YouTube, It's got Google, 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: It's Google Cloud business growing rapidly, It's autonomous car business 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: way Moo, and now it's leading the field and quantum computing, 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: so it's not really clear it's a laggart in anything, 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: but more broadly for investors than to steal a quote 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: from Microsoft, quantum computing looks even more exciting than generative AI, 92 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: and that's obviously send everyone into a bit of a 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: frenzy in the last two years and it could be 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: a multi trillion dollar business. But before we get too excited, 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: it is very early days. Most don't think we'll see 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: commercial applications until into the twenty thirties. 97 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: But definitely want to keep an iron right. 98 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: And I guess the thing is weird as it all 99 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: stop right once you make will Once the AI plus 100 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: humans make Willow, what does Willow make? You know? You 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: almost you would struggle to think of problems that we 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: have for them to solve. 103 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: But at some stage, yeah, it's a long way from that, 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: but yeah, I do think that's the Terminator franchise. 105 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: And no, I'm just joking. 106 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: Sam, Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Fascinating 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: stuff from Google, that is Sam Dicky from Fisher Funds. 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to 109 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: news talks. 110 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: It'd be from four pm weekdays or follow the podcast 111 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: on iHeartRadio,