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Speaker 2: Welcome today to new Methane target for the country and

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Speaker 2: the farmers. Is there a plan to turn ACC's books

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Speaker 2: in being a Monday sport in the country box. Of

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Speaker 2: course with the lads Richard Arnold, Steve Price, they do

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Speaker 2: the offshore bit as well. Pasky, Welcome to the new week,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. So I've read the latest KPIs for

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Speaker 2: the government. I'll have you know things that they're doing

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Speaker 2: or going to do before the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Drag this dump out of the quagmire would have been

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Speaker 2: my number one. But theirs is to introduce new planning

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Speaker 2: legislation to replace the RAMA, which is no bad thing.

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Speaker 2: But introducing stuff isn't the same as ticking stuff off

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Speaker 2: it And in this list, which is thirty three things long,

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Speaker 2: is part of this government's image issue. You most likely

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Speaker 2: won't have read or seen the thirty three because it's

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Speaker 2: a good example of the new cycle or our attention

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Speaker 2: spanner a bit of both. Remember when they first came

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Speaker 2: out mass coverage, a government with all a to do

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Speaker 2: list that was novel, things you could see and come

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Speaker 2: back later and check whether it had actually happened. It

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Speaker 2: was very business like. You may also remember that mainly

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Speaker 2: they get done others government has roughly achieved what they

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Speaker 2: set out to do, So as an exercise and discipline,

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Speaker 2: it deserves some sort of recognition. But and here's the problem,

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Speaker 2: a cheaper power bill and an annual surplus might have

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Speaker 2: been actually more used to most of us. So several

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Speaker 2: quarters and lists have come and gone. By that I

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Speaker 2: mean mainly the media we appear to have lost interest.

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Speaker 2: Are the latest list, as far as I can tell,

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Speaker 2: and I do quite a little bit of looking as

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Speaker 2: virtually nowhere to be seen. Further, it starts to look

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Speaker 2: like a list, and this is the problem with lists.

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Speaker 2: It starts to look like a list that has stuff

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Speaker 2: in it that is a mix of indecipherable, nonspecific and

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Speaker 2: or part of a sort of an ongoing broad based

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Speaker 2: thought bubble. Good example number three past legislation to allow

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Speaker 2: granny flats to be built without consent, perfect, simple, clear,

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Speaker 2: tick the box, but what about fifteen begin the hospel,

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Speaker 2: but tell us he sector review. I mean, is forecasting

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Speaker 2: the start of a Look, it's something a thing. Twenty

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Speaker 2: Take cabinet policy decision on options to provide more tools

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Speaker 2: to address antisocial behavior. Take a decision for tools for behavior.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's stacking your list. That's whiteboards

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Speaker 2: and blue skies and boring meetings. We've got an economic

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Speaker 2: shambles on our hands, and you've got and your hot

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Speaker 2: Fourth quarter take is some tools for behavior. Maybe one

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Speaker 2: of the KPIs in the first quarter could have been

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Speaker 2: let's not make bollocks up for futurists so they look

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Speaker 2: like we ran out of stuff to do.

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Speaker 1: Wow, news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: It's time tomorrow. The remaining hostages should be home. The

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Speaker 2: Israeli president knows who made it happen.

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Speaker 3: We have dmira Hem for his courage, for his leadership,

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Speaker 3: for his stamina, for his commitment to bring our hostages

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Speaker 3: back on hand, change the reality in the Middle East

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Speaker 3: towards a better direction.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Trump forward guards already in town.

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Speaker 4: To President Donald J.

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Speaker 5: Trump, a man who is a humanitarian through and through,

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Speaker 5: who once again proved that bold leadership in moral clarity

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Speaker 5: can reshape history and change the world.

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Speaker 2: The Palestinians still seem on board.

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Speaker 6: It's good to see hostages return to their families and arms,

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Speaker 6: and it's good also to make sure that this is

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Speaker 6: far agreement holds and is implemented and forced.

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Speaker 2: From the success as many Father's file comes the Brits

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Speaker 2: who are looking for a slice of the recognition.

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Speaker 7: We have played a key role behind the scenes in

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Speaker 7: shaping this.

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Speaker 8: It's right that we do so, because it's in all

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Speaker 8: of our interest, including our own national interest, that we

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Speaker 8: moved to a lasting piece in the region.

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Speaker 2: The Israeli is not as keen on that thinking.

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Speaker 9: Message that the UK government have sent Hamas was a

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Speaker 9: message up. The longer they continue this war, they will

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Speaker 9: be rewarded. I mean, you must understand what a terrorist

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Speaker 9: organization is thanking you that you are on the wrong

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a point, haven't they. Then the other

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Speaker 2: war where Zelenski's working hard not to be forgotten. He's

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Speaker 2: got a theory about Putin's drone incursions.

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Speaker 7: He wanted to.

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Speaker 10: See real reaction of Europe and I think that it

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Speaker 2: Finally, I'm not sure the new rule in college football

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Speaker 2: is working. They got the Big twelve director's vote at

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Speaker 2: fifteen to under penalize the home team if spectators throw

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Speaker 2: degree onto the field. Trouble came out of Texas Tech,

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Speaker 2: whose fans had been throwing to teas onto the field

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Speaker 2: for years. This weekend they did it three times against

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Speaker 2: the University of Kansas, so that now results in a

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Speaker 2: couple of fifteen yard penalties. But then there was a

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Speaker 2: stuff before the game so they can get on with it.

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Speaker 2: He is the world of ninety lecorn. You did you

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Speaker 2: miss that over the weekend. The bloke who quit last week,

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Speaker 2: he got the job back. I have no idea why.

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Speaker 2: Latsia James, she was the woman who took Trump to

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Speaker 2: call New York City was going to get her. He

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Speaker 2: got her. She got in dieted on Friday, so we'll

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Speaker 2: see where that goes. And small problem her mass has

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Speaker 2: said over the weekend that bloke Blair Tony London. There

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Speaker 2: is no way in the world he's going to be

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Speaker 2: running Gaza, so we'll see where that goes. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Well, they gave your heads up last week, but an

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Speaker 2: attempt at coup is now underway in Madagascar. Members of

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Speaker 2: the Elite Army Unit have joined this youth led protest.

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Speaker 2: This is this is Nepaul two point zero. Basically, the

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Speaker 2: what they call themselves. It's been three weeks now that

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Speaker 2: this has been going on. Anyway, Andre Ragelina, who runs

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Speaker 2: the place quote unquote, wishes to inform the nation and

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Speaker 2: the international community that an attempt to seize power illegally

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Speaker 2: by force has been initiated. So we'll keep you posted.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past from Jenner Rights Monday morning, Gregsmith, how are

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Speaker 2: you morning, to Mike, Well, thank you. They didn't like

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Speaker 2: what Trump said about rare rifts in China, or didn't

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Speaker 11: Markets didn't like at all. So yeah, we have seen

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Speaker 11: similar barbs leading out to previous negotiations, so we have

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Speaker 11: he's threatened tariffs of an additional one hundred percent over

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Speaker 11: export controls that China's introduced on rare refs. He's also

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Speaker 11: threatened further stuff one critical software as well, and said

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Speaker 11: he might cancel the meeting with a Canapachi which is

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Speaker 11: due to take place at the SUM in a couple

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Speaker 11: of weeks time. So he said they've had a very

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Speaker 11: good relationship over the past six months. You could say

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Speaker 11: that's probably debatable and China suddenly become hostile, but we

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Speaker 11: did have that progress on TikTok. But yeah, it's all

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Speaker 11: around rear effs, real bargainship for China. They control around

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Speaker 11: about seventy percent of global supply of the stuff it's

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Speaker 11: used in high tech, which is obviously very important. And

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Speaker 11: they've also, as part of these controls, said that our

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Speaker 11: entities must obtain a license to get things that'll contain

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Speaker 11: more than point one percent of rarefs in the country

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Speaker 11: of a trade war, did Chinese officials? They said that

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Speaker 11: this is all pretty normal, and that applications will be

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Speaker 11: also made the point in terms of the double standards,

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Speaker 11: that covers more than three thousand items, and that's more

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Speaker 11: they also said they're going to start charging US ships

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Speaker 11: for docking. That might seem a bit harsh, but Washington's

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Speaker 11: already done the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So tip for tap there.

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Speaker 11: So the current terrior truce, might that expires on maybe

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got the PMI Manufacturing and we're back

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Speaker 2: below fifty.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we're still in the doldrums. This is the Benz

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Speaker 11: Business New Zealand Performance and Manufacturing Index. So we went

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Speaker 11: back into contraction in August. We've stayed there in September

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Speaker 11: They made the point that there is some cause for optimism.

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Speaker 11: We obviously had the QSBO last week and net thirty

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Speaker 11: more optimistic.

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Speaker 2: Is that justified?

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Speaker 11: Obviously, we'd particularly like to see some optimism in the

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Speaker 11: to see what this looks like next month, and also

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Speaker 11: obviously with another potential quarter point cut coming in November

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Speaker 2: All right, and what'll we make of course, So.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's interesting, so obviously that Yeah, the government has

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Speaker 11: them mature over next sort of five to ten years.

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Speaker 11: Of course itself isn't who bothered that shares were just

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Speaker 11: The government says this is overs has no need to

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Speaker 11: hold the shares. Also, I guess there's the point that

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Speaker 11: will free up around about six hundred and forty million dollars,

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Speaker 11: which is.

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Speaker 7: The book value of the debt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's going to free money.

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Speaker 11: I guess the projects to talk about Budget twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 11: things at hospitals, schools and roads. And we've talked about

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Speaker 11: this before, Henry, so that government has seen no esset

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Speaker 11: sales during this term, but this is sort of getting

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Speaker 11: to be forty five percent of GDP. That's forty thousand

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Speaker 11: per person. They've already said last week the fifty one

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Speaker 11: plenty other things they could sell. Might You've got the

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Speaker 11: former Land Corps two billion dollar farming, portfolig and indied posts.

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Speaker 2: It be this is Metnyahu. A couple of moments ago.

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Speaker 12: Wherever we fought, we won, but to the same degree.

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Speaker 13: Trending now with chemist ware House great savings every.

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Speaker 14: Percent of the time when a child goes missing, it's

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Speaker 15: If anyone has any information, please we beg you come forward.

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Speaker 14: You know, I honestly didn't see this coming. Is nice

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Speaker 2: which is next this Monday morning, the Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breaks the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk

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Speaker 1: to make the Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate

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Speaker 2: to seven. Back here for now, though, we return this

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Speaker 2: Monday morning to the plight of ACC. So we told

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Speaker 2: The annual deficits one point five billion total now thirteen

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Speaker 2: Megan morning, good morning mate. Is the one point five

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Mike, quare working really hard to you know, to

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Speaker 17: you know, it's a big ship to turn around, and

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Speaker 17: we've got a lot of work to do to make sure,

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Speaker 17: simply put, that you know that we're getting people rehabilitated faster,

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Speaker 17: So they all make a difference.

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Speaker 2: Is there a lot of that? What's the real issue?

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Speaker 2: Is it the levies that need to rise, is it

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Speaker 2: the return on investments you're not getting, or is it

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Speaker 17: So look at the mix of things, Mike, as you've

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Speaker 17: just called out, you know, our investment fund is performing

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Speaker 17: big court decisions that essentially expanded the boundary of what

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Speaker 17: working with employers to keep people connected to work so

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Speaker 2: How much of the costs is simply cost plus accounting

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Speaker 17: Oh look, Mike, you know we work really closely with

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Speaker 2: You're going to have to get the mental stuff the

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Speaker 2: does that actually change anything?

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Speaker 17: You know, our job is to implement and operationalize the legislation,

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Speaker 15: We've got a lot more work.

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Speaker 2: All right, good to talk to you appreciate it and

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Speaker 2: What do Michael whin'sy leaving? Who's he actually meeting and

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Speaker 2: talking to?

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Speaker 13: Do?

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Speaker 16: We know it's going to leave shortly and the clock

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Speaker 16: is ticking on every count here.

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Speaker 19: JD.

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Speaker 16: Vans, the US Vice President, says the hostage is held

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Speaker 16: by Hamas, should be freed soon.

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Speaker 20: He says this, well, it really should be any moment now.

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Speaker 16: Knock on Wood says advance. The plan is that all

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Speaker 16: twenty of the remaining hostage is still alive would be

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Speaker 16: released together at one time by the Red Cross, then

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Speaker 16: transported to eight vehicles on route to medical assessments. They

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Speaker 16: want to make sure there are no military displays by

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Speaker 16: hamasas we've seen horribly before. As for the bodies of

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Speaker 16: the twenty eight hostages who are believed or have died in captivity,

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Speaker 16: they're still seen to be questioned. As Hamass claimed they

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Speaker 16: do not know the location of some of those victims.

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Speaker 16: At Hostage Square in Tel Aviv last night, trump Age

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Speaker 16: Steve Whitcoff and Trump's son in law Garret Kushner, appeared

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Speaker 16: in front of the crowd, which booed Israeli PM Netanyahu

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Speaker 16: when his was mentioned.

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Speaker 2: That the scene.

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Speaker 16: In contrast, Trump's name was cheered by that same crowd,

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Speaker 16: as Whitkoff spoke to them.

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Speaker 4: Your courage and endurance inspired the world, and it was

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Speaker 4: your belief, joined with the bold leadership of my friend

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Speaker 4: and President of the United States Donald J. Trump, that

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Speaker 4: made this peace possible.

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Speaker 16: So Trump will set out for a brief visit to

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Speaker 16: Israel and then Egypt. He will greet some of the

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Speaker 16: hostages and speak to the Israeli parliament. E Kanesse says

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Speaker 16: vance of the programming mind.

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Speaker 20: That's why the President is going. That he will be

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Speaker 20: greeting the hostages. It's a monumental thing. It's great, of

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Speaker 20: course for their families.

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Speaker 16: After that victory, lap three and a half our visit

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Speaker 16: in total, Trump will head to Shamil Shaik in Egypt

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Speaker 16: to meet with leaders of more than twenty countries to

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Speaker 16: discuss the next phase of the peace Hopes figures. Tens

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Speaker 16: of thousands of Powerstinians, as we've been seeing, have been

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Speaker 16: streaming into northern areas where they once had houses, only

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Speaker 16: to find now complete destruction and devastation, no homes, no water.

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Speaker 16: So many are turning back to who knows what kind

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Speaker 16: of future. That's the struggle for roughly two million gardens.

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Speaker 16: Israel has agreed to open five border crossings to let

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Speaker 16: food trucks into areas where there's been starvation. A mass

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Speaker 16: has not agreed to disarm, So this remains what tenuous process,

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Speaker 16: with Vance saying.

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Speaker 20: We think that the Arab countries, the Muslim majority countries

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Speaker 20: are going to step up in a big way with

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Speaker 20: troops on the ground.

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Speaker 16: Still all can see that recovery is going to take

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Speaker 16: years and years.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Letitia James Friday, John Bolton next we reckon.

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Speaker 16: I am your retribution, Trump said right during his last campaign,

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Speaker 16: and he's following through. We've had those two criminal cases

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Speaker 16: on the unfolding Trump revenge tour, with former FBI director

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Speaker 16: James Cammi saying he's not guilty of lying to the

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Speaker 16: Congress New York's age and Leticia James saying she's innocent

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Speaker 16: of mortgage fraud. A former Trump national security advisor John Bolton,

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Speaker 16: as you were just suggesting, appears to be next in line.

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Speaker 16: Prosecutors have been finalizing details of a possible case against

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Speaker 16: Bolton after the FEDS raided his home seven weeks bank

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Speaker 16: and found some old documents might classified. Bolton claims he

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Speaker 16: did nothing inappropriate with classified records. He of course, served

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Speaker 16: as Trump's National security advisor in his first term, but

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Speaker 16: since he was fired in twenty nineteen, he has been

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Speaker 16: sharply at odds with Trump in medium appearances and in

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Speaker 16: his book, So batsy with politics right now, Mike peacemaking

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Speaker 16: them addle least battle lines at home.

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Speaker 2: The strange business all right, might see you, and so

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Speaker 2: they appreciate it very much. He's gonna have to watch

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Speaker 2: this Trump because of course, Letitia James. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: all very well taking people to court, but of course

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Speaker 2: the cases all fell over. So if he's taken cases

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Speaker 2: that fall over, he's got a reputation unless you bestn't

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Speaker 2: by the way completed, I told you about this last week. Argentina,

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Speaker 2: they've bought some paesos, but they've also rolled in with

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Speaker 2: the American dollars twenty billion dollars worth, so they've got

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Speaker 2: dreadful trouble in Argentina and Milay is very close, of course,

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Speaker 2: to Trump, so they're busy helping them out. And if

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Speaker 2: you think the shutdown's worrying most Americans, you'd be wrong,

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Speaker 2: because I'm reading over the weekend that University of Michigan

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Speaker 2: has been doing some polling on the mood of the nation.

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Speaker 2: Things are a bit doer as regards the mood of

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Speaker 2: the nation, seventh lowest level in terms of consumer sentiment

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Speaker 2: since nineteen fifty two. Anyway, the shutdown is not remotely

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Speaker 2: bothering them. It's all about the pocketbook. If it affects

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Speaker 2: your wallet, they're into it. If some bloke in Washington

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Speaker 2: doesn't go to work, they couldn't care less. Interviews reveal

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Speaker 2: little evidence that ongoing federal government shutdown has moved consumers

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Speaker 2: views of the economy thus far turn away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Defender and

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Speaker 1: US tomstad.

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Speaker 2: B speaking of Poles bad knock after her stamp duty

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Speaker 2: speech last week at the Tories conference in Britain, would

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Speaker 2: she get nate point improvement? Is that a lot?

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Speaker 18: Yes?

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Speaker 2: She's still minus fourteen though, but it is the best

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Speaker 2: score so far this year. Not so good though, as

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Speaker 2: Susan Lay who just cannot get a break. There's a

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Speaker 2: poll out on her this morning, and she's just she's

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Speaker 2: tanking faster than tanking. There's actually another poll out that

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to Steve about later on immigration generally. OMG,

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Speaker 2: Mike Bathurst was brilliant those last few laps. Couldn't take

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Speaker 2: my eyes of the television. I'd heard Greg Murphy mentioned

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Speaker 2: pain earlier this week, so I've been watching him the

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Speaker 2: whole way. Yet Murphy'd be He's been mentoring Ryan when

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Speaker 2: Ryan Wood was leading and could well have won if

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Speaker 2: his car didn't stop working, which does tend to be

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Speaker 2: a problem. You should have seen his face just like

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Speaker 2: something blew up and you just it was the end

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Speaker 2: of his world. Mike, please think Piney if you cross paths.

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Speaker 2: He suggested on Friday that Paintander at seven dollars would

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Speaker 2: be a good bet. After practice six, they blew out

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Speaker 2: to twenty three. Now I'm six hundred and ninety dollars up.

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Speaker 2: Keith pine was irresponsible in offering those sort of odds

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Speaker 2: or suggesting too, Because here's what I know about Bathurst

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Speaker 2: as I watched that race yesterday. There is no way

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Speaker 2: in God's earth that you can pick anybody to win

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Speaker 2: that race. It is form is irrelevant. The top ten

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Speaker 2: shootout is completely and utterly irrelevant. You look at Kostecki,

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Speaker 2: he went round the better than ever. Everybody reminded me

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Speaker 2: of the twenty seventeen lap that McLachlan did. Kristecki was

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Speaker 2: there for all money, and yet as car blew up

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Speaker 2: and he ran it into the wall and someone went

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Speaker 2: up his back pipe and the whole thing was a disaster.

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Speaker 2: The number of things that happened in Bathhurst once the

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Speaker 2: rain starts and the cloud comes in at the top

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Speaker 2: of the mountain, literally anybody could win that race, so

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Speaker 2: that there are no odds. It's just sheer guess work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thrilled for you've got six hundred ninety dollars,

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Speaker 2: but I mean there's just no way in the world

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Speaker 2: that form has got anything to do with anything. Reynolds,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, David Reynolds came second. And who would

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Speaker 2: have thought that at the well Piney probably would. He

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Speaker 2: probably had odds all sorted out, and they're five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven B.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the ouse. It's the Fiarz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Grocery supply numbers for you, Inframetrics tells the supply of

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Speaker 2: costs were up two point three percent for September, so

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Speaker 2: they've eased slightly, and that's got a little bit to

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Speaker 2: do with the old international dairy demand. We've had a

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Speaker 2: couple of those auctions go backwards in the last few months.

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Speaker 2: West noted the other week. Last week, we're still holding

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Speaker 2: at ten percent for the farm gate price, so that's encouraging,

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Speaker 2: but it is affecting food in a good way. I

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Speaker 2: guess bakery highest three point nine, so there's still a

587
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Speaker 2: bit of bery at play there. The chilled foods up

588
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Speaker 2: three point five, but the butter component of that is

589
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Speaker 2: down slightly. Seafood was the other big mover. Fish costs

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Speaker 2: in general have been a lot higher. Why it's happening.

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Speaker 2: They're using a lot of butter in the sea. Are

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Speaker 2: they're putting butter. They're putting butter, but they're putting yogurt

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Speaker 2: in the ocean the fisher're eating. It's suddenly become expensive.

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Speaker 2: Salmon particularly is up. Seafood supply costs are up three

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Speaker 2: point two percent. That's the fastest since mid year. Month

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Speaker 2: on month, just over thirty two hundred produced products were

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Speaker 2: increasing in cost thirty two hundred. Now that's more than

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Speaker 2: the average. The average over time is twenty eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: From an international standpoint, we can probably expect butchery costs

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Speaker 2: to go up. Meat prices are up globally six point

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Speaker 2: six percent. That's the fastest increase for all sects. So

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Speaker 2: that's play something. I got to tell your story, and

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Speaker 2: I have time to do it now, but your things

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Speaker 2: have not gone well for me. This morning. I got

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Speaker 2: up at one thirty, and you'll go, why would you

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Speaker 2: do that? And that's a very good question. But I

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Speaker 2: had a planned power outage at my place and the

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Speaker 2: trauma involved in that is extraordinary. And I don't ring

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Speaker 2: people very often because I don't like dealing with people,

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Speaker 2: and I find myself deflated and generally disappointed. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you go to ring somebody and you think that

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Speaker 2: might be able to help you, and that never that

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Speaker 2: almost never works out well. But I had some interface

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Speaker 2: with Victor on Friday, and Victor, it's not like can

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Speaker 2: go anywhere else because Victor a lines company, of course,

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Speaker 2: So what are you going to do? Go to somebody

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Speaker 2: who's got other lines. There's no other lines that Victor's

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Speaker 2: got you by the short and curlies. Anyway, I interfaced

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Speaker 2: with AI on Friday, and I can tell you if

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Speaker 2: their version of AI is our future, we are done for.

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Speaker 2: Tulip was her name? Well, when't I say her, wasn't

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Speaker 2: it her? It wasn't it? Tulip was its name? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: more later and we'll talk about the Fed Farmers and

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Speaker 2: the meat lay for you right after the news, which

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Speaker 2: is next.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling the breakfast show you can't best. It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life your

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Speaker 1: Way News Togs.

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Speaker 2: He'd be only seven past seven. Big news for our

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Speaker 2: climate targets as the government sets the twenty fifty methane

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Speaker 2: numbers at fourteen to twenty four percent, which is down

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Speaker 2: from twenty four to forty seven. Wayne Langford's the president

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Speaker 2: of Fed Farmers and is with us Wayne, Morning, Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: While we're on the numbers business. Out of ten, it's

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Speaker 2: perfect one, it's a disaster. What's your number?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 21: This sitting somewhere around seven or eight.

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Speaker 2: Right, so it could be better, but you're not reasonably

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Speaker 2: happy well, I know.

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Speaker 21: We were advocating for fourteen percent, but I can understand

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Speaker 21: why the government's had to say around twenty four percent.

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Speaker 21: So there is a bit of a range there. But

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Speaker 21: I'll tell you what it does. It gives us a

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Speaker 21: real clear direction of travel when it's that's good for

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Speaker 21: farmers to have that.

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Speaker 2: How much of this is about politics versus how much

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Speaker 2: of it's an actual number or arrange that can be tangibly,

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Speaker 2: realistically achieved and therefore theoretically do something good for the planet.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think that's the best thing about this is

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Speaker 21: it's actually a scientific number that's got to start that

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Speaker 21: we're heading towards compared to the ideal dealistic targets that

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Speaker 21: were previously in place. So that's good for farmers, it's

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Speaker 21: good for everyone. It's something that we can measuring, and

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Speaker 21: we are currently measuring, and we know that we're on

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Speaker 21: track to achieve. So ultimately, I think this is in

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Speaker 21: a much better place.

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Speaker 2: It still plays into the business even if we achieve

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Speaker 2: the target. Fantastic. How does the world benefit? I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is the New Zealand first and enact argument, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: There will be lots of countries that don't even get

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Speaker 2: close to the target. The world isn't going to measurably

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Speaker 2: improve in any way, shape or form no matter what

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Speaker 2: we do. So therefore, how much do you want to

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Speaker 2: punish your farmer for?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, and that's that's what it leads into. And what

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Speaker 21: I guess what it's also saying is that, hey, we're

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Speaker 21: really on track to achieve this. We're on a track

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Speaker 21: for farmers to not add to warming at all, which

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Speaker 21: is what they're asking us for. If we can do that,

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Speaker 21: if we can stay with un amongst the targets and

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Speaker 21: still keep our markets and everything else, then isn't that

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Speaker 21: a good thing? And I think that's what this announced

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Speaker 21: and is reflecting, and it's what we've been davocating for

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Speaker 21: for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister always runs the free trade argument that

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Speaker 2: these free trade deals these days have this you've got

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Speaker 2: to be doing your bit for Paris line and do

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Speaker 2: we still fit in comfortably in the trade? In other words,

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Speaker 2: you're not being affected adversely by us.

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Speaker 21: We explored our ninety five percent of our milk products,

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Speaker 21: we explored ninety percent of our red mate products. We

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Speaker 21: are hugely dependent on trade. And what a consumer or

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Speaker 21: a customer overseas, it's asking for and so if this

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Speaker 21: is currently what they're asking for, hey, we've got to

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Speaker 21: live up to that. And that's what some of these

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Speaker 21: agreements are about. But at the same time, we can't

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Speaker 21: be going broke. I mean, we've been down We've been

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Speaker 21: down many rural towns in New Zealand. We've seen empty storefronts.

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Speaker 21: I know you're going to have the teachers on on

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Speaker 21: the show that today is tomorrow probably asking for more money.

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Speaker 21: Where do you think that comes from? That comes from

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Speaker 21: the agricultural sector. And we've got to make sure that

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Speaker 21: we're humming and not driving ourselves broke because hitting some

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Speaker 21: idealistic target won won't achieve that.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you've got the country on board? Because

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Speaker 2: the Greens and the Labor disagree with you and they

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Speaker 2: disagree with this decision. Therefore it's potentially an election argument,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: Quite disappointing. Probably that's the case, because they should be

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Speaker 21: in favor of this ranger. I mean that's what there

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Speaker 21: was an independent scientific panel that went and reviewed this,

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Speaker 21: that's what they came out with.

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Speaker 18: They should be in and.

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Speaker 21: In align with that to say to have them come

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Speaker 21: out kind of a roughly against it or saying that

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Speaker 21: our markets will be worried. Well, if the markets are worried,

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Speaker 21: then let the market take care of that. You know,

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Speaker 21: our processes want to say how you need to do

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Speaker 21: this or need to do that, then yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 21: amongst it. But setting an idealistic target that no one

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Speaker 21: can achieve that will destroy ural communities, that's not.

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Speaker 18: What it's about.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff waye appreciated Wayne Landfast, who's the presented of

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Speaker 2: Fed Farmers. There was a suggestion over the weekend that

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Speaker 2: New Zealand first would pull the trigger of the agree

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Speaker 2: to disagree part of it because they're particularly agreed with

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Speaker 2: what's going on. So they didn't because I think we

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Speaker 2: might have got them across the line. But anyway, more

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Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister run after seven to thirty this morning,

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Speaker 2: eleven past sevensk right, so what a weird old business.

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Speaker 2: Then local body vote turned out to be as we

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Speaker 2: sit here this morning, turnout has been thirty two percent,

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Speaker 2: which is down from last time. Are the mara ward

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Speaker 2: part of the equation twenty five of them scrap seventeen

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Speaker 2: retains Sam Broughton as the President of Local Government. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and is with us Sam, morning.

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Speaker 10: To you.

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Speaker 18: Good money mate?

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Speaker 2: Any escaping that this gets worse every time we have

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Speaker 2: a crack at democracy. It just gets more and more embarrassing.

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Speaker 22: It's hard, isn't it. It's a very very low turnout again,

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Speaker 22: and we've been raising this with the government. Now we've

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Speaker 22: come up with some recommendations that we urgently need to

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Speaker 22: be implemented by the next election because your democracy deserves

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Speaker 22: better than this sort of turnout.

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Speaker 2: What is a good turnout in your personal view? What

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Speaker 2: would make it credible?

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Speaker 22: Well, we want to be above faithy, don't we. We

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Speaker 22: want to think about as close to one hundred percent

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Speaker 22: as we can, but we want people to participate. Some

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Speaker 22: may choose not to. But if we look at central

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Speaker 22: government elections, you know, nearly getting double to turnout, and

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Speaker 22: I think we should expect that for our local government

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Speaker 22: elections too.

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Speaker 2: From your body's point of view, what do you make

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Speaker 2: it's a move to the right in general and people

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Speaker 2: who slapped on rate increases got punished. Is that fear?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: I think the cost of living that everyone's feeling the

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Speaker 22: pinch of at the moment, and the situation that councils

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Speaker 22: are in with rising costs and few funding levers other

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Speaker 22: than rates. Certainly means that people have you looked at

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Speaker 22: those rates increases and I think that has been been

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Speaker 22: influential on these outcomes year.

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Speaker 2: Is your story an example of them?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think certainly had larger than everydrects increases in

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Speaker 22: the last couple of years. So you have to ask

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Speaker 22: people individually why they voted the way they did, But

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Speaker 22: I think that's part of the story here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and when you put those rate increases on for

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Speaker 2: your area, did you go, JESU, this could cost me,

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Speaker 2: but it's worth it to me. Is that how that worked?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 22: You always know that it's going to hurt and that

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Speaker 22: might take a personal toll, but it's the right thing

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Speaker 22: to do for me. It's saying, we've got this long

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Speaker 22: term infrastructure that needs to last thirty to fifty to

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Speaker 22: eighty years. We can't just keep passing the costs on

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Speaker 22: to our children. So yeah, that was part of my

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Speaker 22: decision making this as we set that stuff up for

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Speaker 22: the future of our district.

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Speaker 2: And what about the mari wards twenty five scrap teen retained,

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Speaker 2: does that tell us anything?

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Speaker 18: Well?

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Speaker 22: Aljain Z's position was that you know, we should be

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Speaker 22: treating all wards equally, and we didn't have referendum on

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Speaker 22: rural wards or at large wards, but we have on

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Speaker 22: Maori wards and we've got the outcome now. So we'll

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Speaker 22: work with our elected members to make sure we support

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Speaker 22: everyone to get up to speed as they serve their

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Speaker 22: communities through.

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Speaker 18: The next three years.

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Speaker 22: And also those that are facing the end of the

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Speaker 22: Maori ward will particularly spot them through to Motawata.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you, Sam, Sam Broughton

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Speaker 2: who was the prison local government New Zealand. He was

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Speaker 2: a mayor, of course, if you didn't realize and lost

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Speaker 2: his seat thirteen minutes past. I'm asking, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: I'm Rina now Tony Alexander, this business of the mortgage rates?

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Speaker 2: Where are we at? He reckons five years four nine

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Speaker 2: nine is as good as it's going to get. And

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Speaker 2: he calls himself a conservative operator, a conservative borrower. And

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Speaker 2: at four nine nine, he reckons it's as good as

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Speaker 2: it gets, and he'd lock it up at four nine

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Speaker 2: nine for five years. If I were borrowing at the moment,

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Speaker 2: I would personally be quite happy to fix five years

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Speaker 2: just below five percent. I disagree with them, But then again,

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Speaker 2: you know each to their own mind. You I disagree

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Speaker 2: with Jason Pine on the odds for old Maddy paint

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Speaker 2: so having a bad morning of it so far. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: Or ight Glynn will lock it up? Four point ninety

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Speaker 2: nine it is Mike. Wayne sounded a fair bit like

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Speaker 2: fred Daek. Isn't that like all farmers sound like fred

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Speaker 2: dag Isn't it? Isn't that basically what marks you out

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Speaker 2: as a farmer. Also, by the way, Wayne said we'd

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Speaker 2: be having the teachers on today or tomorrow, asking well,

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Speaker 2: we are not having the teachers on today or tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We're not covering the strike. We have banned all coverage

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Speaker 2: of strikes on this particular program. Seventeen past seven. Potential

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Speaker 2: good news for you mums are we're going to have

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Speaker 2: allegedly a three day post natal hospital stay which builds

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Speaker 2: on the already funded forty eight hours stay. So what

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Speaker 2: happens here, Allison Eddie is the College of midwife CEO

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Speaker 2: and is with us Allison morning.

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Speaker 15: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Would we do three easily? Could we do free easily?

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Speaker 2: Or not?

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Speaker 11: Not?

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Speaker 15: With the resources in the current system, No, it's going

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Speaker 15: to be a bit of a job to get this

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Speaker 15: over the line.

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Speaker 2: So if I just gave you money, does that solve it?

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Speaker 2: Or do you need facilities and places to be? So

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Speaker 2: it's a bit more complicated than the money.

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Speaker 15: Absolutely, we need the beds, the actual physical beds, and

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Speaker 15: we need more staff nor midwives, which is not really

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Speaker 15: they're not flushing the system at the moment, so there's

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Speaker 15: quite a few constraints there. And yeah, that's our biggest

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Speaker 15: concern is that the system won't have the capacity to

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Speaker 15: deliver this. And yeah, we've got great intentions and we

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Speaker 15: really really welcome the focus on woman health, on new

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Speaker 15: mums and their needs post nationally, but we need resourcing

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Speaker 15: to back up the good intentions and they're not Those

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Speaker 15: resources are not going to be easy to.

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Speaker 2: Find, Okay, So let me come back to that in

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Speaker 2: just a moment. The three day thing is that like

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Speaker 2: the international norm, is there a norm of three day

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Speaker 2: brilliant or average or good or what?

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Speaker 15: No, there isn't really a norm I think, you know,

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Speaker 15: really back in the day it used to be ten days.

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Speaker 15: I mean, it was sort of ridiculous when you think

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Speaker 15: about it now. But we do have a post natal

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Speaker 15: care system in the home here in New Zealand because

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Speaker 15: almost every woman does have and mid wife that has

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Speaker 15: been caring for them during pregnancy, that knows them, that

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Speaker 15: comes and visits them in their homes after birth up

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Speaker 15: to six weeks afterwards, and that is quite unique many

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Speaker 15: parts that we don't have that sort of post natal

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Speaker 15: follow up care. In some places all you get is

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Speaker 15: a phone call or you might get one or two visits.

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Speaker 15: But we do have a very well resourced community based

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Speaker 15: system for post natal care. So yeah, that needs to

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Speaker 15: be put into the mix as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, So back to the funding. So when the governan

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Speaker 2: says they're seeking further advice, your advice would be we

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Speaker 2: need more people and we need more facilities. I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: they know this, don't they.

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Speaker 15: Well, they have done some work and you know they

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Speaker 15: used tomat it. That could be you know, yeah, they've

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Speaker 15: done some work to look at it. But I'm really

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Speaker 15: in a bit of a bit of a loss to

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Speaker 15: know how get how this is going to be implemented.

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Speaker 2: All right, well let's wait and see what happens to

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Speaker 2: Elis appreciate it, Alison Eddi, who's the College of Midwife? Cee?

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Speaker 2: Can I give you some more good news? Commercial real

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Speaker 2: estate seems to be the first half of this year

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Speaker 2: sales momentum. It's going just jll who do this? So

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Speaker 2: the outlook remains constructive, supported by converging positive fundamentals. This

873
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Speaker 2: is all good. Looks like a good place to invest

874
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Speaker 2: given accommodative government policies, falling interest rates and yield returns.

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Speaker 2: Wait till you get to the best. But Auckland in

876
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Speaker 2: particular offered prime industrial investment opportunities at superior yields to Australia.

877
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Speaker 2: There you go. So twenty five and twenty four recovery

878
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Speaker 2: demonstrated a healthy base for continued value and volume growth

879
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Speaker 2: and more sustainable market dynamic. Auckland industrials vacancy is at

880
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Speaker 2: two point eight, which is tighter than Sydney at four

881
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Speaker 2: point four, Melbourn at five point three, Brisbon at four

882
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Speaker 2: point seven. You can't get a place for love Normale here.

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Speaker 2: You can on Australia. Why because they suck a New

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Speaker 2: Zealand real retail also expected to see some improvement shopping

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Speaker 2: centers in large format retailer underlying residience. So that's your flickers,

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Speaker 2: isn't it's as a that's a bud, that's a seed.

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Speaker 2: That's a flicker, that's as a growth. It's hope, it's life,

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Speaker 2: From About Health Tasking HID seven twenty four an insight,

916
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Speaker 2: possible hope actually out of the government's move on young

917
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Speaker 2: people and the jobless seeker rules they announced last week. Now,

918
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Speaker 2: as part of the media's coverage in reaction to the move,

919
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Speaker 2: we got the usual parade of headlines about there being

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Speaker 2: one no jobs and to the people who had applied

921
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Speaker 2: for hundreds. In fact, one story had a person who

922
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Speaker 2: had applied for thousands of roles without success. Now, firstly,

923
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Speaker 2: I don't believe for one second that anyone applied for

924
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Speaker 2: thousands of jobs. That's the sort of hyperbolic bs that

925
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Speaker 2: muddies the waters and distracts from the real issue. Too

926
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Speaker 2: many people who apply for lots of jobs are doing it,

927
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Speaker 2: of course, in a machine gun sort of way. They

928
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Speaker 2: apply for literally everything. It doesn't matter what it is,

929
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Speaker 2: whether they got the skills for the job or not.

930
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Speaker 2: They simply click. This is not to say jobs aren't

931
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Speaker 2: tight and there aren't employers. You see a lot of applications,

932
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Speaker 2: but an application is not automatically a right fit for

933
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Speaker 2: the gap going. It's admin it's paperwork and nothing more.

934
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Speaker 2: And if you're applying for everything, you're wasting your time.

935
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Speaker 2: Second thing, and this is the hope bit. Is it

936
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Speaker 2: possible that we might just learn a larger lesson out

937
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Speaker 2: of all of this, And that is if life on

938
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Speaker 2: welfare isn't an option and in a tight economy jobs

939
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Speaker 2: are hard to find. Could the lesson be that you

940
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Speaker 2: just might want to stay at school a bit longer

941
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Speaker 2: and actually get some skills. Is it possible you might

942
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: want to work out just what it is you like

943
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: and want to do, as parents might be want to

944
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Speaker 2: spend a bit of time offering some help and guidance

945
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Speaker 2: around ideas and pathways. Seems a remarkable thing that we

946
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Speaker 2: have this infrastructure called education where you spend literally years

947
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Speaker 2: and you can one leave early, two possibly not turn

948
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Speaker 2: up much at all, Three turn up but do little

949
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Speaker 2: of anything. Four at no time in all those years,

950
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Speaker 2: have any idea what you might like to do for

951
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Speaker 2: the rest of your life. The vulnerable you see are

952
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Speaker 2: always going to be the first casualties of weak economies.

953
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: The answer has never been to offer them free money,

954
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Speaker 2: to ask about waiting for the boom times to come.

955
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Speaker 2: It's a collective embarrassment, the schools that watch them all

956
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Speaker 2: those years go nowhere, the parents who didn't instill the

957
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Speaker 2: desire to be somebody, and the state who thought money

958
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Speaker 2: for nothing sold anything. Osking like Tony Alexander's got a

959
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Speaker 2: terrible track record on his British Oh, for goodness sake,

960
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Speaker 2: give a moment ago you telling me he's a number

961
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Speaker 2: one economist. Now he's got a terrible trick. Rich, I

962
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Speaker 2: don't believe who to believe, Mike, One of our children

963
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Speaker 2: took Tony Alexander's advice nearly five years ago, fixed at

964
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Speaker 2: two nine night. It's been great. Theregre two to one.

965
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Speaker 2: Tony one's Mike, I am sure. I read over the

966
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Speaker 2: weekend that Nesleigh had withdrawn from the Global Dairy Methanection Alliance. Debbi,

967
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Speaker 2: you did, that's not actually news in New Zealand got

968
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Speaker 2: in there early and they were very good, and I'm

969
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Speaker 2: proud of being in New Zealand. On that they said, look,

970
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Speaker 2: we'd like to do this, but the reality is we can't.

971
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Speaker 2: It's not real and therefore we would be deluding ourselves

972
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Speaker 2: and therefore deluding you if we simply carried on pretending

973
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Speaker 2: we could do something we can't. So they pulled out

974
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Speaker 2: ages ago and there. It's just it's all part of

975
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Speaker 2: the global slowly but surely implosion as reality Trump's at

976
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Speaker 2: last theory. Right sport after eight we got the Canterbury

977
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Speaker 2: this MPC thing that I mean, they're going to be

978
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Speaker 2: in the semi finals and they'll win the semi final

979
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Speaker 2: and they'll go to the final and they win the

980
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Speaker 2: whole thing. So there's no mistake there. They'll win the MPC,

981
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Speaker 2: but they don't seem to be quite as good as

982
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Speaker 2: they used to be. We'll get into the commentary Boxer

983
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Speaker 2: after wake this morning meantime news is.

984
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Speaker 1: Next no fluff just facts and fierce debate. The Mic

985
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Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast with the land Rover defender embraced the impossible

986
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Speaker 1: news togs he'd been three.

987
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Speaker 2: Minutes away from eight. It is a Monday sport that

988
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Speaker 2: Jason Plane and Andrews several mentime the year Prime ministers

989
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Speaker 2: in the studio with us. Good to see you can

990
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Speaker 2: see tea Mike, Now the methane targets. Were you not

991
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: there yesterday behind the wooden stump on the farm because

992
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Speaker 2: you were fearful that the Greens would come after you?

993
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: So you see Todd and go out. No, there was

994
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Speaker 2: a lot of people involved in that.

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Speaker 8: We had good industry support as well, and obviously we've

996
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Speaker 8: got ministers from all the different political parties that have

997
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Speaker 8: got agricultural responsibilities there as well. But look, I'm really

998
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 8: pleased with that decision. That's something we've been working on

999
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Speaker 8: for a while. We said in the campaign as national

1000
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Speaker 8: that we would go off and look at that. It's

1001
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Speaker 8: appropriate that we do. Here's the deal. We are the

1002
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Speaker 8: most carbon efficient farmers in the world. We are the

1003
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Speaker 8: most productive farmers in the world, and the previous model

1004
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Speaker 8: of just sending that production off shore just makes greenhouse

1005
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Speaker 8: gas emissions worse and makes kiyis poor. And I think

1006
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Speaker 8: we've got to a very very sensible practical place.

1007
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Speaker 2: Okay, does it affect us in nyashape or form with

1008
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Speaker 2: the trade agreements we've already signed that.

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Speaker 8: No, no, no, this is us saying, look, we're on

1010
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Speaker 8: track for net zero twenty fifty. If that reports, we

1011
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Speaker 8: could do it anywhere up to six years early, but

1012
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Speaker 8: within the separate target, which was about methane, which was when.

1013
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 7: The legislation was created. We've always said we'd review.

1014
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 8: That based off the science that we see, lots of

1015
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 8: different advice, and we've got to a place a range

1016
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Speaker 8: of fourteen to twenty four percent reduction over the twenty

1017
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Speaker 8: seventeen levels by twenty twenty five.

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00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: Do you think this comes out? Do you think people

1019
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: then understand because of what the farmer's been arguing the

1020
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Speaker 2: whole time, Methane is different. It's not just in that

1021
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: whole big basket of Paris. Let's save the world. Methane

1022
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: is a different gas. Yeah, we need to understand.

1023
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 8: But what's actually been happening is the success of New

1024
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Speaker 8: Zealand farming over one hundred and fifty years.

1025
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Speaker 7: You know, we shouldn't be as.

1026
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Speaker 8: Successful as we are in the world, but we are

1027
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Speaker 8: because our guys keep adopting a whole hepotechnology and innovation,

1028
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Speaker 8: and it's the same on this. They've actually been making

1029
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 8: big improvements on breeding and genetics. On breeding they've been

1030
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Speaker 8: making you know, there's actually other innovation that's coming. It's

1031
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 8: going to be here in the next year or two

1032
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 8: that's going to make a big difference to methane emission,

1033
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 8: so you can actually lower your emissions and increase productivity

1034
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Speaker 8: I believe for New Zealand farming going forward from here.

1035
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Speaker 2: Is the attention within the coalition at the moment over

1036
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: Paris in general. That will play out next year in

1037
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Speaker 2: the election campaign.

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Speaker 8: Well, parties may have their own views on it, but

1039
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Speaker 8: as you've said, the government possession, which is all three

1040
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 8: parties in coalition, have said no, no, this makes sense

1041
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 8: for us to stay in Paris because you know, otherwise

1042
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Speaker 8: it's countries that we compete with in large multinationalsing our

1043
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 8: products out and that's not something we're up for. It

1044
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Speaker 8: just makes us poorous, So I think everyone understands that.

1045
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: But we'll act, for example, campaign on getting out of it,

1046
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: because they've already stated they want to get out of it.

1047
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: So how badly are you holding them in here just

1048
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: for them to wait to twenty twenty six?

1049
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1050
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Speaker 8: No, I mean, I mean they may well form their

1051
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 8: own party positions and I'll take that to the next

1052
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 8: I don't know what they'll do, to be honest, I'm

1053
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 8: just saying from a national point of view, and more

1054
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 8: importantly from a coalition government point of view, coming out

1055
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 8: of Paris would be really dumb for us. It would

1056
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Speaker 8: hurt us and that's not the wold. Make keys poor

1057
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Speaker 8: and that's not good. So I'm not punishing our farm

1058
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Speaker 8: as we genuinely are going to meet those You know,

1059
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Speaker 8: We're in Paris for a reason, which is there's four

1060
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Speaker 8: countries that aren't currently and it helps us a lot

1061
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Speaker 8: set our products.

1062
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: Is there any point in asking you about the local

1063
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: body elections given they were an a mitigated disaster.

1064
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll turn out what was pretty low, wasn't it?

1065
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 8: And I think you know what you saw there was.

1066
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 8: I think there's two bits to it. One is candidates

1067
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 8: have to be compelling and they have to have to

1068
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 8: excite voters to actually have a vision of what they

1069
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 8: wanted to achieve, what they want to do. The second

1070
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 8: thing is that you Islanders, you know, the voters themselves.

1071
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 8: I mean, if you don't vote, then you can't complain.

1072
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 8: And you know rates of gobon up twelve point seven percent.

1073
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 8: So I mean, if you feel strongly about an issue

1074
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 8: like that, well you need to shar up and actually

1075
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Speaker 8: vote and participate.

1076
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Speaker 2: But no one's doing anything about this, are they? Between

1077
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Speaker 2: now and the next local body elections? No one's going

1078
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: to change anything. Well, now we've got a system. It's

1079
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: as simple as register and vote. You know, people say

1080
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: to me, Chris, can you go off and do computerized voting.

1081
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 2: We can look at a whole bunch of things. Local

1082
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: government zone should definitely look.

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Speaker 8: At all of that. But the upshot is, look, we've

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Speaker 8: got a system that works. Just try to get also

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Speaker 8: and do it.

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Speaker 2: Do you read anything into the trend? Broadly speaking, there's

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Speaker 2: a move to the right, and broadly speaking, those who

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00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 2: whack big rates on lost.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well I think that's really important.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, when you don't have council's focus

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Speaker 8: on the basis as we've talked about, and those that

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Speaker 8: ran up massive rate increases, I saw that too, that

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00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 8: have been punished. I think that's you know, that's a

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Speaker 8: good thing. I mean, if you care about your rates,

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Speaker 8: then you care about what's going on in your city.

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Speaker 7: Should you should vote? And that's what's happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Chorus, how real How realistic are you about this? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I'm quite excited by it because it actually frees up

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Speaker 8: one point one billion dollars that we get to invest

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Speaker 8: elsewhere in the economy. And you know, I saw a

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Speaker 8: labor come out and say, oh, it's an asset sale

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Speaker 8: and I thought, yeah, you know, they're economically illiterate and

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Speaker 8: done as a bag of Ham's frankly, because if you

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Speaker 8: can't distinguish the difference between debt and equity, which is

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Speaker 8: a pretty basic thing. This is a company that's on

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Speaker 8: the New Zealand Stock Exchange. We don't own any of it.

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Speaker 8: It's just that we loan the money while we were

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Speaker 8: actually rolling out ultra fast broadband that's now finished. We

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Speaker 8: can sell that debt security to somebody else who gets

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Speaker 8: repaid by Chorus and one point them we go use

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Speaker 8: one point one billion dollars of that.

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Speaker 7: So you're going to do it well.

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Speaker 8: I mean I'd like us to. We're exploring it. See

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Speaker 8: whether we've got to find someone who can actually wants

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Speaker 8: to cut it to Mark will be full of people.

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Speaker 8: But I think it's a really good thing and sensible.

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Speaker 2: Right, So are you going to do it? When you're

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Speaker 2: going to do We're trying to We're trying to do it, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so it's on. We're set to go and put it

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Speaker 2: on a quarterly plan so much. Well, I don't even

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Speaker 2: give you those So as soon as you can find

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Speaker 2: somebody to take that, you'll take it. And it's it's money,

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Speaker 2: it's yeah. Look, I think it's really sensible, no brain.

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Speaker 8: And the other question for me is then, well, well

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Speaker 8: it's basically what's called balance sheet laziness, and you've got

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Speaker 8: to make sure that you're using you know that we

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00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 8: haven't got lazy balance sheets across the other government, cross government.

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Speaker 8: The question is is there other similar things?

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Speaker 2: Question? So, are you differentiating between the fact that's debt

1130
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Speaker 2: versus selling you're fifty percent of Near New Zealand for example.

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00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, noting asset sales this term, But.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be campaigning on asset sales?

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Speaker 7: Well, we haven't made a decision yet. No, we haven't

1134
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Speaker 7: made a decision.

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Speaker 8: We've got it well, a long way to go for

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Speaker 8: the elext money two thirds of the way through the term, Mike,

1137
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Speaker 8: So we've got plenty of time to think about it.

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Speaker 2: Are you favored or leaning towards the idea that you

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00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: could campaign on asset sales?

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Look, haven't haven't really, we haven't discussed it. We've got

1142
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Speaker 8: so much.

1143
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 7: Focus, you know, you must be like every day.

1144
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 8: We go into that joints and there stuff to sort

1145
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 8: out and clean up. That's been the last set of

1146
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Speaker 8: thinking about.

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00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: So you've thought about chorus, but you haven't thought about

1148
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: the possibility because you've got a moment ago. You're excited

1149
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: about you one point something, But I am super a

1150
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: good wh aren't you excited about the billions you could

1151
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: get from I'm just looking at the balance sheets the

1152
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Crown entities and just saying that there must be you

1153
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: are we using it a balance sheet as efficiently as

1154
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: it possibly can be?

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Speaker 8: Or have we got cash tied up that can actually

1156
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 8: be released to do other things?

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00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: Okay, what were you spend it on?

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00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 18: Look?

1159
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 8: Is the heap of stuff. We've got a mass amount

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Speaker 8: of infrastructure we've got to get built. We've got a

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00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 8: huge amount of roads to get delivered. There'll be one

1162
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 8: place to think about.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't want to pay off any debt at all, or

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Speaker 2: we might pay a little bit of debt, but a debt.

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00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 8: But I actually probably you know, the capital investment would

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00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 8: be something that would be really productive.

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Speaker 7: Don't come use for that money.

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00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: The advertising bill. Most people won't know what happened to here,

1169
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: but the house ran out of time or got closed

1170
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: down the other night. So the bill was up on

1171
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: advertising on Sundays for radio and stuff like that, and

1172
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: you guys ran out of time. Now, it's not the

1173
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: most important thing in the world. But what it does

1174
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: tell me and remind me of is what I tell

1175
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: you every time you come into the studio is open

1176
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: the place up more often and actually get some business done,

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00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: and then you wouldn't run out of time and close

1178
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: it down.

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00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 8: Says the man that's on holiday for what first November

1180
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 8: to like first of April isn't or something.

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Speaker 2: I'm not running the country, But yeah, I mean, do

1182
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: you know does the Parliament need to be more open

1183
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: to do more stuff?

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Speaker 8: Well, I just say we have put the parliament to

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00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 8: what's called urgency a lot, probably used it the most

1186
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 8: since the early eighties because we've got a lot of

1187
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 8: stuff to get done on that one. That was a

1188
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 8: bit weird and as to what actually happened there around

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00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 8: proxy votes that were recognized in the first reading and

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Speaker 8: the second reading, but they're not their Labor appealed and

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00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 8: then it.

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Speaker 7: Was the votes deferred until Tuesday, so when the next

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00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 7: sitting day is.

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Speaker 8: But the weird thing about that one was Labor actually

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00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 8: supports that bill and then actually challenged it and then

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Speaker 8: delayed the vote on that, which was a bit silly.

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Speaker 2: So okay, but it will pass though. Yeah, we'll pass

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Fontierra and does Peter, I know you're in a fan

1201
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: of in favor of Volontierra selling their commercial but Peter's

1202
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: makes a not on reasonable point, doesn't he? NL.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I just don't think farmers need politicians telling them.

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Speaker 2: What to do.

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Speaker 7: They had a guts full of that that's happened over

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Speaker 7: the last six years.

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Speaker 18: Yep.

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Speaker 7: I've got a different view, which is that.

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Speaker 8: Having worked in a big consumer goods company for eighteen years,

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00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 8: the margins on food service and ingredients and selling business

1211
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 8: to business are so much greater than business to consumer

1212
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 8: and selling consumer brands around the world. How come La

1213
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 8: tylers don't see it that way. Well, that could the

1214
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 8: same as what dear call businesses and consumer business. But

1215
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 8: what Fonterras discovered and why Fonterra is doing incredibly well,

1216
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 8: and Myles Harrel deserves tremendous credit and that team for

1217
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 8: refocusing that company after it lost focus I felt for

1218
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 8: a decade or so, is actually on saying actually we

1219
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 8: can sell ambient whipping cream that is devised and our

1220
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 8: research and development leaves is unique and can be stored

1221
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 8: at ambient temperatures and sent off to thousands, if not

1222
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Speaker 8: millions of Korean bakers, and that is a much better

1223
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 8: business that generates better margins and returns that goes back

1224
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Speaker 8: to the farmer shareholder. So I just have a different

1225
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 8: view on that. I just think that's a really smart

1226
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 8: move in a very good use of capital and an investment.

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Speaker 2: Did you say or how many times did you say

1228
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: to Lawrence Wong, I really wish I was like you? Lawrence?

1229
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: How many times did you say I wish we were

1230
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Speaker 2: more like Singapore?

1231
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Speaker 7: Well, I love Singapore.

1232
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 8: I must have been in my early twenties, and I

1233
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 8: like Leekorn news Singapore story third world to first world

1234
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Speaker 8: but we had a great three and a half hour

1235
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 8: private dinner actually at home, just the two of us

1236
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 8: and at your place, at my house.

1237
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was you get catering in for that.

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00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1239
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 8: Tony still very kindly came by and at a time. Yeah,

1240
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 8: he's a top man. He does a great job. So

1241
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 8: it was just no security, guys. It was just the

1242
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 8: two of us and now and Tony and it was

1243
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 8: great and and yeah, like Singapore is a fantastic example

1244
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 8: of what's achievable when you focus on management. But you know,

1245
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Speaker 8: he did say to me, he said he goes to

1246
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Speaker 8: parliament once or twice a month, and I thought, yeah,

1247
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Speaker 8: that's us.

1248
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:34,959
Speaker 7: He can run the country.

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Speaker 2: As a result, did Tony clean up the kitchen afterwards?

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00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 8: Between Tony and myself, we cleaned it up beautifully. Amanda's

1251
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 8: due back tomorrow, so hopefully she'll be a.

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00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 2: Lawrence do did he wait in the lounge? Wi clean?

1253
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 7: We carried some plates over.

1254
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Speaker 2: It was good. That's good to see how diplomacy's done.

1255
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Speaker 2: Nice to see you appreciated. Prime Minister Christopher Leux and

1256
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Speaker 2: thirteen to.

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Speaker 1: The My Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1258
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Speaker 1: by News talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make the road cones story. So

1260
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: the road cone tip line is being well, they're having

1261
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: a look at it. This is Brook van Belden's and

1262
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: bench and eight hundred complaints but only two hundred road

1263
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Speaker 2: cones moved. But if you actually read the story, the

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Speaker 2: MZTA in Auckland Transport, who are two of the biggest

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Speaker 2: road cone users in the country, say they didn't know

1266
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: how many cones have been removed, So how can they

1267
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: say there's only two hundred. This came from the Greens apparently,

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Speaker 2: and the media ran with it saying two hundred cones.

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Speaker 2: But when you get down to the NZTA in the

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Speaker 2: Auckland Transport part, they don't know how many cones. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether this is good, bad or in different.

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Speaker 2: By the way, my good economic news of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: On Friday on the program, I mentioned our old mate Matt,

1274
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Speaker 2: who's the picture hanger, and years ago when we started

1275
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Speaker 2: hiring Matt to come around and hang our pictures, everyone

1276
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: made fun of us because no one hired anybody to

1277
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: come around to hang up pictures anyway. Matt, of course,

1278
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Speaker 2: once I mentioned this on Friday, everyone started ringing Matt,

1279
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: and so Matt got like inundated with people, and so

1280
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: he texted me yesterday to thank me very much and said,

1281
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Speaker 2: I know you like good news stories. To tell you

1282
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: our revenue. Now he employs multiple people these days, so

1283
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: it's not just Matt anymore. He was a one man band.

1284
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Now he employs multiple people. And he was telling me

1285
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: via text over the weekend. He said, for the last

1286
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: eight months in a row, in other words, in the

1287
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Speaker 2: middle of a cost of living crisis twenty twenty five,

1288
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Speaker 2: New Zealand styles for the last eight months in a row,

1289
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: his revenue has increased. So you cannot tell me that

1290
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Speaker 2: there aren't people out there with money to hire people

1291
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Speaker 2: to hang pictures. So it's a good news story.

1292
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Speaker 1: Eight to eight, the Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real

1293
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Speaker 1: estate news talks.

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Speaker 18: There'd be coming up.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from it. What I'd like you to

1296
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Speaker 2: do today is ring vector, ring vector, and Tulip will

1297
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Speaker 2: answer the phone. So this morning, I got out of

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Speaker 2: bed at one thirty this morning, which is now earlier

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Speaker 2: than normal. The reason I got out of bed and

1300
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: now earlier the normal is because we had a planned outage.

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00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to ring vector on Friday to check that

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: the planned outage was actually going to happen, because last

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00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: time the planned outage was going to happen, it didn't happen,

1304
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: and they didn't tell me. So I ring them up

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: on Friday and tulip Ants is the phone, and Culip's

1306
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: a and says, hello, I am Tulip. I can understand you.

1307
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: And she goes, how can I help? And I said,

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00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: planned outages and she comes back and goes, there are

1309
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: no outages, and I went, no planned outages, there are

1310
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: no outages. So at this particular point, I so put

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Speaker 2: me through to a human and then I get put

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Speaker 2: through to the answer phone, which goes, we would like

1313
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: to know what you thought of Tulip between one and seven,

1314
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: seven being very good, one being a disaster. I hit two,

1315
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: leave it after the beef. I hit two two hash.

1316
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: Then it goes boom boom. We're very disturbed to hear

1317
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: that you've only rated Tulip a two. What appears to

1318
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: be the problem. And I said, I prefer to deal

1319
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 2: with a human being, not a robot, and they went

1320
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: goodbye and hung up on me. So then I rang

1321
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: back Tulip and went through the same exercise again and

1322
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: got nowhere. Eventually I got to a human being, which

1323
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: was debatable as to with the human being was better

1324
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: than tulip, because you know those human beings you end

1325
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: up dealing with who there's nothing wrong with them. She

1326
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: was pleasant enough, But you know those human beings and

1327
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: telecom centers who you know that they're not going to

1328
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: help you. You know they hate their job that they're

1329
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: not going to When I say, can I talk to

1330
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: a supervisor? There's no one here at the moment, and

1331
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: you know that's not true, but they're going to tell

1332
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: you there's no one here at the moment and they

1333
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: have no information. I said, all I want to know

1334
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: is is this going ahead or not? If it says

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00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: it's going ahead, it is, I said, Well, last time

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00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: it didn't, Well you'll be notified. Well last time I

1337
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: wasn't notified. I'm sorry, I can't help you. There's nobody

1338
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: else here. So the whole thing was just a complete cluster.

1339
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: So I end up freaking out and getting up at

1340
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: one thirty in the morning to beat the power going

1341
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: off at two so I can have a shower and

1342
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: have a coffee. Next problem, I walk into the kitchen.

1343
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: What's broken the coffee machine? The water's come out at

1344
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: the bottom of it. It's freezing cold. I can't even

1345
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: have a coffee. It's one thirty in the morning and

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00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: I can't even have a coffee yet. I did Tulip

1347
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: manage to break your coffee machine? By Remote Cotrell for

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00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: a good question.

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Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate finding the buyers. Others can't used talks

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Speaker 1: dead b.

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Speaker 3: Spru room.

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Speaker 19: It is no wrong, no one car that is.

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Speaker 13: Came.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming saies next week.

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01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 19: That is full time.

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 23: The bay of plenty steamers are into the semis on

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01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 23: the Bunnings in PC.

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Speaker 18: That a careful but I'll be pull way.

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Speaker 24: That'll go ahead with the fifteenth one.

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Speaker 23: I'm the visitor's cutting up and they'll take out the

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 23: pit quarter final if they did one hundred minutes.

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01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: But Janeedary punched the ticket and the budding sipc A

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01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: semi final and.

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 18: The victory five cards one crowds and belong.

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Speaker 13: God come.

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Speaker 11: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Some Monday morning commentary barks with Spears Finance Smart Asset

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Speaker 1: and Equipment Finance for Kiwi Businesses.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Saviles with us Morning MATEO Morning make along with

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine.

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Speaker 24: Morning to you Piney, Good morning Mike.

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: Very very disturbed about your odds on the Bathhurst. You

1374
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: have listened to somebody earlier on texting me said that

1375
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: one thousands off you it was all good. How do you,

1376
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: honestly hand on heart? Did you see the race yesterday?

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01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 24: Absolutely? I was glued to it, absolutely glued to it.

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01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: There is no way you could tell me that Payne

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01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: was going to win that before the race started. You

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: could say is he in with the chance yes? Is

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01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: he a good driver yes? Has he got some form yes?

1382
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: But given what happens on a rainy day, you could

1383
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: not possibly have known he was going to win.

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01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 25: Him No, No, impossible, impossible to predict the storylines at

1385
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 25: bathtist anyway, even on a good day. But on a

1386
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 25: day like yesterday, gee, I mean it was I think

1387
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 25: the best sporting theater I have seen in a long

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01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 25: long time. And you know, for Matt Pain to come

1389
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 25: through and win it as a key we obviously was amazing.

1390
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 25: But some of the cut and trust and the and

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01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 25: the wheel to wheel action and the the rain and

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01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 25: the treacherous conditions and the broadcast coverage as well. Gee,

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 25: I mean it's absolutely compelling stuff. But you're right, Mike,

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01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 25: there's no way from what he was eighteenth on the grid,

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01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 25: Matt Pain, he wouldn't be putting a lot of money

1396
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 25: on him, but there he was. Garth Tender as well,

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01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 25: off Horse's co driver. Look, just just remarkable stuff.

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01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: Andrew are you in.

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Speaker 19: The inn Mic? It doesn't really matter where you qualifying

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01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 19: a race.

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01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 23: Look, i'd have to say, yes, we've had winners and

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01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 23: if one, yes we've had a long time ago.

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01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 19: Yes we've had winners across the years of Lamon. But

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01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 19: that would have to be one of the great.

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 23: Would have to be one of the great New Zealand

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01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 23: motor racing drives of all time, wouldn't it?

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 19: In the condition I said, he.

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: He's got to have a Hellberg nomination, doesn't he surely.

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01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 24: As well?

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 25: I mean, yeah, incredible And just to hold his nerve

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01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 25: what is he twenty three? I know the young these guys,

1413
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 25: but to hold his nerve in the I mean, you

1414
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 25: know it's hard enough to drive on the motorway here

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01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 25: on Wellington when it's raining, you know, and you've normally

1416
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 25: gone about seventy k. These guys are up to two

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01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 25: hundred k in the wet, in the misty cloud at

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 25: the top of Mount Panorama.

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01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 24: You know, huge pressure to hold your nerve. It's just

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 24: remarkable that move.

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01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 23: He made at the end of the straight when he

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 23: went off. He eventually went off, but that moved to

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01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 23: go on the inside. There were three cars altogether. The

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01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 23: third place guy was up there, Jacksi's of the first two.

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01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 23: That was just extraordinary. Talk about written determination, and.

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01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: I think they'd lost I think they lost all sense

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: of normality at that point. I think it was just

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01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: one of those mad because the under normal circumstances. You

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: would not advise him doing what he did, because that

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: was almost.

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01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 18: Like thinking you.

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Speaker 23: I think he knew he had to have a crack.

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 23: He had to have a crack at getting into the lead.

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01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 23: There was you know, there was the issues with the

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 23: tires and pit stops and other crashes. I was watching

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 23: with one of my boys and I said, look, look

1437
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 23: when he was in third pain, I said, I reckon

1438
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 23: the number two car is going to have a crack

1439
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 23: at the leader and they'll probably take each other out

1440
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 23: because exactly what happened pretty much.

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01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't there one on the corner, that thing last corner

1442
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: as they went up the hill for the final time,

1443
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 2: that thing on the corner where he got a five

1444
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: second penalty.

1445
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 23: So he did well, he did well to handback and

1446
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 23: third and just just waited a little bit to see

1447
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 23: what one and dou did. But extraordinary for twenty three

1448
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 23: years of age. And we did a yarn on this

1449
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 23: kid probably about four or five years ago when he

1450
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 23: received a poor scholarship, and back then people were saying

1451
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 23: to me, this kid has got a lot of talent.

1452
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 19: He will go far and he won I.

1453
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 23: Think some races in the Toyd Racing Series a single season,

1454
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 23: but certainly a talent and he'll win a lot more.

1455
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 19: In supercars. Were very very close friend of Liam law.

1456
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson exactly the same age, same sort of stage,

1457
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: and they went through I mean he's he was currently

1458
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: before yesterday, was currently coming second and the you know,

1459
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: in the in the championship in general, they've got one

1460
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: more to go. I think it's on the Gold Coast.

1461
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: But it really was as as Jason, just to wrap

1462
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: this up as a sporting you don't even need to

1463
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: be remotely interested in motor racing. To understand if you

1464
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: were watching that yesterday, you would be virtually dead if

1465
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: you weren't spellbound.

1466
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 19: And I leap off the couch.

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01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 23: But when when those first two took each other out,

1468
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 23: I actually leaped off the couch watching motor racing.

1469
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 19: Couldn't believe it.

1470
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: And Dad, are you okay?

1471
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 19: Dad?

1472
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: Get up?

1473
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 24: The same with my wife. She came running in. What's

1474
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 24: going on? What's going on?

1475
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: Have you done?

1476
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 24: I'm just watching the motor racing.

1477
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 25: I felt for Ryan Wood, I must say, with his

1478
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 25: car sailing him, he was right up there was there

1479
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 25: were thirty.

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01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 24: Laps to go.

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01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 23: He probably would well I reckon, Yes, a lot could

1482
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 23: have happened, but he probably would have won his car.

1483
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 2: If it held it together. Here. But that's the thing.

1484
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: You look at Kasticki. He was the hot favorite for

1485
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: the weekend. Could he do it three in a row?

1486
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: And he won the shootout and all that sort of stuff.

1487
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: Next thing you know, he's in the wall. He's got

1488
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: another car up his backside. His car's broken to pieces.

1489
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: That's Bathhurst, isn't it.

1490
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 10: You know?

1491
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: So that's what that's why you can't really say who's

1492
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: going to well, let's talk about the NPC in a moment.

1493
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Speaker 1: Thirteen past the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1494
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: car it by News Talks it Be News Talks b

1495
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: sixteen past eight, the Monday Morning commentary Barks with Spears,

1496
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: fight ads, smart ass and equipment fight ads for Kiwi businesses.

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01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: Andrews hebll with us along with Jason Pine and Jason

1498
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: let's do this quickly. So Canterbury's going to win the NPC.

1499
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of who they've beaten, how it goes.

1500
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: And so the semifinals of who is it Canterbury Otargo.

1501
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 25: No No, No Otago against Bay of Plenty Canterbury Hawks Bay.

1502
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 24: I don't know.

1503
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 25: I just like the way Otago are going about things

1504
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 25: at the moment. Yes, it took them till the ninety

1505
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 25: or eighty odds a minute that mark the other night

1506
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 25: to kick the penalty that beats beat White Carto in

1507
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 25: a high scoring one.

1508
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 24: But I just like the momentum. They haven't and Canterbury

1509
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 24: huffed and puffed.

1510
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 25: Yes against Counties they eventually got there, they did, but

1511
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 25: an extra time and yeah, look, I think everybody outside

1512
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 25: of the Canterbury region probably wants somebody else to win.

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01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 24: Canterbury probably will win. But I like the way Otago

1514
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 24: are going down things.

1515
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 19: Of the canebar.

1516
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 23: You haven't actually won it for seven or eight years,

1517
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 23: Mike sitting out of talent, But I actually like I

1518
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 23: Plenty played very well on Saturday.

1519
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 18: They've got a.

1520
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 23: Good pack and they've got some electric backs, so look

1521
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 23: out for them. But also loving this Otago story. You know,

1522
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 23: they haven't won it since ninety eight, I think, and

1523
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 23: given the history of Otiger rugben how strong rugby has

1524
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 23: always been in that area, in that city, it's great

1525
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 23: for the game.

1526
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 19: I just wish more people would turn.

1527
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: Up, that's true.

1528
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 25: I see David Lasser, Yeah, David Laffert was trying to

1529
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 25: get a lot of people along yesterday the Otago legion.

1530
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 25: He was on social media saying, you've got to get there,

1531
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 25: You've got to get there. What they have five thousand

1532
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 25: there the other night, I'd say double that a semi final,

1533
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 25: wouldn't they surely on Friday night?

1534
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 24: And yeah to see them home.

1535
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: Saw Karen Read at the game and he's he was

1536
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: eating pies. Is that what you do want?

1537
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 19: I think it was hot. It was actually, can I

1538
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 19: just pull you up? I think it was hot chips.

1539
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: There was hot chips. My apologies, it was hot chips.

1540
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: Is that what happens to you when you when when

1541
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: you retire?

1542
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 23: You just to see him great to see him in

1543
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 23: his home union, which was which was County County's Medica.

1544
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: He looked good though, didn't he. I mean for a

1545
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: post post player, I thought, fair enough.

1546
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 25: Yeah, It's not like I wanted to get away with

1547
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 25: that poddle of chips. I'd say he kicks himself a

1548
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 25: pretty good nick.

1549
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: He looked like he was in pretty good nick. This

1550
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: three sixty sev seems so. I'm glad that somebody finally

1551
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: woke up to it, you know, because we raised it

1552
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and I thought, is an

1553
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: attention to this at all? And then last week all

1554
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 2: the unions came out and said, you're not playing it.

1555
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: May have I don't.

1556
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 19: I don't think it's completely dead just yet. Might because

1557
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 19: it sounds like they do have the money and they've

1558
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 19: got a ton of it. But as we mentioned, I

1559
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 19: think last week, is it going to garner any interest?

1560
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 10: No?

1561
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: None?

1562
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 19: Games between the Madrid and Magicians cares Lisbon Lions. But

1563
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 19: I don't.

1564
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 23: I just and if you haven't got the superstars, and

1565
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 23: a lot of those superstars will stay with their respective

1566
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 23: countries because they want to carry on playing test rugby.

1567
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 23: I don't know if they're going to have them be

1568
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 23: able to sign a big enough names you.

1569
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 25: Should want to make a lot of Pacific Island players, well,

1570
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 25: a lot of Pacific Island players will look at it.

1571
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 24: I think you know their union styge some more tongue.

1572
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 25: They can't afford to keep their best players playing domestically,

1573
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 25: they don't, do they And so if those players can

1574
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 25: earn some really good money playing R three sixty and

1575
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 25: probably enhance themselves as internationals, maybe that's the kind of

1576
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 25: player we're.

1577
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 24: Going to see in our three sixty.

1578
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 19: And I wouldn't blame the look.

1579
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 23: I wouldn't blame a lot of these young guys or

1580
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 23: many players for taking the money.

1581
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 18: Mike.

1582
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 19: It is huge money. It's a lot more than they

1583
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 19: getting of do that for two or three years.

1584
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 23: You see yourself up. But as long as the money

1585
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 23: definitely gets through and is paid. And then you look

1586
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 23: at live golf and that's losing money hand over first,

1587
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 23: how much long is that going to line.

1588
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: Well, they don't care that Saudi's got all the money

1589
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: in the world. By the way, do we need to

1590
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: start some sort of fun for Nolin?

1591
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 24: Yeah, a body quite Jordan.

1592
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: How many weeks is this going on for? I mean

1593
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 2: I thought that would this would be wrapped up, that

1594
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: this is two weeks in encounting. If it's not three

1595
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: weeks in encounting.

1596
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 16: Isn't it?

1597
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 19: It's longer than that it's been. I think they've stopped.

1598
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 24: I think they've stopped mediation. I don't think they're mediating now.

1599
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 24: I think they've reached an impass.

1600
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: Well what's that mean?

1601
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 24: Well, I don't know what does that mean? I really

1602
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 24: don't know.

1603
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: Well, Jason, Jason, what are the odds of it being

1604
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 2: concluded this week? Two to one?

1605
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 18: Well, very.

1606
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: Chance of winning a job than Matt Paine doesn't winning.

1607
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 2: What are the odds?

1608
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 25: No chance, no chance, no chance at all, more chance

1609
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 25: of more chances, But I don't know, but no no

1610
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 25: chance of being And I don't think it'll it'll Probably

1611
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 25: it's kind of stopped now, hasn't it. And knit Moore,

1612
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 25: New Zealand probably quite like that because there was this

1613
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 25: huge ground swallow support behind Dave Noleine.

1614
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: They the last a few days is part of the

1615
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: news cycle.

1616
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 24: It's going to fizzle out.

1617
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: Pretend it's a local body election. Everyone will get bored

1618
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: by it. No one will be interested anymore. It works.

1619
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 24: I cogrets to Keen Laban by the note.

1620
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: He's a good guy, isn't he?

1621
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 18: Yeah he is?

1622
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 24: Yeah, Yeah, terrific stuff. Mayor of Heart City.

1623
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,440
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, what are the odds of him being successful?

1624
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 2: Jason two to one?

1625
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 24: I mean, I mean, he knows everybody. I think he'll

1626
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 24: be Okay, that's true.

1627
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,879
Speaker 2: Right, quick question for you, saf So Tiger Woods seventh

1628
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:23,520
Speaker 2: back surgery, How at what point do you get surgically

1629
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: interfered with to the point where you go, you know what,

1630
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: as fun as the masters were, this is not this

1631
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: is not worth it to me.

1632
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 19: And what point do you go?

1633
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 23: You know what, I've had a brilliant career, one of

1634
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 23: the greatest in history. I've made hundreds of millions of dollars.

1635
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 23: Why don't I just stop?

1636
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1637
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: How many surgeries do you need to go through before

1638
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: you go? This is ridiculous?

1639
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 23: Well, how many of you had on that little frame

1640
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 23: of yours from your tennis I remember you're blue both

1641
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 23: and he's out at tennis and you're playing against me once.

1642
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: Literally literally that's libelists. You know that's libel because you've

1643
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: literally just made that up.

1644
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,560
Speaker 23: And the way you used to play golf and swing that,

1645
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 23: you know, drive the ball with the amount of talk

1646
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 23: going through that small I'm.

1647
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: Going to get I'm going to get Nolan's lawyer onto

1648
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: this because he or she's clear you're not doing anything

1649
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 2: about her. Yeah, that won't help you, no exactly.

1650
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 23: I mean, let's let's face it, you're only held together

1651
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 23: by bottles of Rizveritrot plus or whatever the hell you take.

1652
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: Pat Cummins he's another one. He's got lower back that

1653
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: I don't know whether he's going to play. How long

1654
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: do you bowl this?

1655
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 19: Because he's a fast bottle. They've always got lower But

1656
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 19: that's what I'm saying.

1657
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: When you're a fast bother, when you're a kid, does

1658
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: mom and dad not go at you and say, look,

1659
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: it's cool, you look really cool. It's not as good

1660
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: as you know. It's way more flamboyant than spin. But

1661
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 2: believe me, by the time you get to thirty nine,

1662
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to be able to

1663
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: do the reading. Yeah, you know, yeah, but they've had

1664
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: fun doing it, or you could have been just like you, Sam,

1665
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: and you spend the rest of your life out of shape,

1666
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 2: reading about it, leaping.

1667
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 25: Off the coup leaping off the couts like a gazelle,

1668
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 25: like I just imagine it.

1669
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 19: No, we're seeing Karen read yesterday.

1670
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 18: Exactly by me. Mate's expires you to do.

1671
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 23: What it's inspired me to stop doing the bench priests

1672
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 23: and just focus on cardio, focus on the hot shots.

1673
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: And nice to see you guys. Andrew Sevil Jason Fire

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Speaker 2: Check out the video clip of Laws and Liam and

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Speaker 2: get within ten seconds of a pro rally driver. It's amazing, John,

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Speaker 2: You're right, that's a couple of months old now. That

1699
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: came out with Goodwood, and I alluded you to it

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Speaker 2: do what he does, is well worth watching. So look

1703
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Speaker 2: that up. Speaking of Liam, I have news as regards

1704
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Speaker 2: his future in F one, so I'll come back to

1705
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: that in just a couple of moments and two poles

1706
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Speaker 2: out this morning. As far as I know, there might

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Speaker 2: be more, but two that I saw. One was on

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Speaker 2: immigration in Australia and the government might be misreading the

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Speaker 2: mood in Australia, and the other one was on miss

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Speaker 2: Lay who currently runs I use the word currently currently

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Speaker 2: runs the Opposition. I don't know how much more unpopular

1712
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Speaker 2: she can become, but the numbers don't look good. Steve

1713
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Speaker 2: Price with all of that and more.

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Speaker 2: This weekend to Texas for the next F one race.

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Speaker 2: Of course, here's this morning's buzz. This out of laisenbe

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Speaker 2: Simon Lazenby, who if you watch the Sky coverage, he's

1719
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Speaker 2: the main guy who hosts the show in coverage over

1720
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: the weekend. He's suggesting that a racing Bulls. This is

1721
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 2: regards Liam. Both drivers are going to end up being dropped,

1722
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: so that is Hedger hedges up to Red Bull, which

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01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: means that Sonoda goes back to racing bulls or does

1724
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: he know? The theory is that he will end up

1725
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: as reserve driver at Aston Martin replacing him at Red Bulls,

1726
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: and Lilliam's gone as well, replacing them both at Racing Bulls.

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: As Arvid Lindblad, now you'll know the name of your

1728
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Speaker 2: follow F one. He's the F two driver currently under

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01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: the auspices of the Red Bull Driver program. He's struggling

1730
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: an F two. He seems to be a favorite of

1731
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: Helmet Marco, but he doesn't have the form to be there.

1732
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: And that's why I don't actually agree with this particular scenario.

1733
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, these are whispers in the field. So Aarvid

1734
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: Lindbladd goes into Racing Bulls next to Alex Done, who

1735
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: has Alex Done. He's a talent and he has been

1736
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: with McLaren's reserve driver. They've just let him go. So

1737
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: Done ends up there, and so Sonoda goes to Aston

1738
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: and Liam is looking for work. The scenario being, or

1739
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: the weight behind that, is that racing Bulls knee drivers

1740
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: that can get to the level of the stappin' and

1741
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 2: at this point they don't have them, neither in Sonoda

1742
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: who's been there for four or five years, nor in

1743
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: Liam who's had a crack that failed. So goes the

1744
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: theory twenty two to.

1745
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 13: Nine International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of

1746
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,480
Speaker 13: Mind for New Zealand.

1747
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: Business Tadlas Steve Price morning.

1748
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 18: Makee when can we sack Lando? That's all I want

1749
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 18: to know.

1750
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: Lando is not getting sacked. But the other story floating

1751
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: around this morning is that Pastre's not happy and you

1752
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: can understand why he wouldn't be happy. Clear that Ferrari's

1753
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: not happy and you can't understand why he's not happy.

1754
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 2: So there's a swap going on. So Psre ends up

1755
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: at Ferrari.

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01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 18: No, Well, Oscar will be world champion. He can do

1757
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 18: what he wants.

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: That's true. So I don't think anything's going to happen.

1759
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 10: There.

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01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 2: Are you out again on those Palestinian marches? You've been

1761
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: going on?

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01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 18: Oh? I mean you wonder, don't you? I mean, seriously,

1763
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 18: these people, any sympathy they had, and it was pretty

1764
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 18: minimal from anybody, just went straight out the window of

1765
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 18: the weekend. So the Sydney situation was they were going

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 18: to march to the Opera House. The highest court in

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 18: New South Wales said no, they're not going to do that.

1768
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 18: We won't give you a permit, and so they were

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 18: forced to march down George Street. Someone said there was

1770
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 18: around eight thousand people there. No one can quite be sure.

1771
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 18: There was another massive rally in Melbourne. And the only

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 18: reason I raised it is one, what are they marching

1773
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 18: for now? Given what's happening in the Middle East? I mean,

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 18: the peace steal might not hold, but there is ap

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01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 18: steel and the hostages look like being swapped either today

1776
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 18: or tomorrow. So what were they marching for? Well, upstands

1777
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 18: Senator Lydia Thope. Now she's a former Green Senator now

1778
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 18: sits in the Senator as an independent. Under our system,

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01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 18: you get elected for six years as a senator. I

1780
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 18: think she's still got about four or five to go.

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01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 18: She stands up and says, quote, we as in the

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01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 18: people marching stand in solidarity because we know what it's

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01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 18: like to have a boot on our neck every moment

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01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 18: that we are alive, but we have survived. Then she

1785
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 18: went on to say we'll fight every day and then

1786
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 18: this quote direct quote, and if I have to burn

1787
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 18: down Parliament has to make a point. I'm not there

1788
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 18: to make friends. I'm there to get justice for our people.

1789
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 18: I mean, seriously, I mean, you knows no reference, of

1790
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 18: course to what happened on October seven, two years ago.

1791
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 18: She just ignores that, and she conflates what's going on

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,799
Speaker 18: in Gaza to the treatment of indigenous people in Australia,

1793
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 18: which is completely ridiculous.

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01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: Is that not inciting some sort of violence or hate

1795
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: or you know, doesn't somebody have a look at this

1796
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: and go this is a bit over the top and

1797
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 2: we could do something about this legally.

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01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 18: Well, these laws are useless. Macadia Cash from the Opposition

1799
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 18: called the statements disgraceful, shocking, but unfortunately unsurprising, and Cash

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01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 18: said that the Opposition would consider options available within the

1801
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 18: Senate to hold Senator Thought accountable. Well, I don't reckon

1802
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 18: that'll go anywhere, but she should be ashamed of herself.

1803
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 18: But she's got no shame, so that won't happen.

1804
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: So Susan Lay, how unpopular does she need to get?

1805
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: She's minus five neck balance was plus nine? How unpopular?

1806
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: And how fast does she fall before somebody'd actually does something.

1807
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 18: Well, I've had this point to here last week and

1808
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 18: I repeat it that I think they're just going to

1809
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 18: leave her there like some sort of a trojan Awesome.

1810
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 18: I mean, no one wants to be the Federal opposition

1811
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 18: leader in Australia under the current situation, given how bad

1812
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 18: the election result was just back in May. So Anthony Albanez,

1813
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 18: he's got not much short of three years. Any assessment

1814
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 18: of the numbers would say he's going to get three

1815
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 18: more years. So if you're in that job, you're saying

1816
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 18: to yourself, well, I'm going to sit there as opposition

1817
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 18: leader for six years banging on about things, and I

1818
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 18: might get elected if I'm lucky in two terms time.

1819
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 18: So I'm not sure how long the coalition will leave

1820
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 18: her there. The problem that the coalition has is they've

1821
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 18: got a whole bunch of center right moderates and then

1822
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 18: you've got the conservative wing. The conservative wing of the

1823
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 18: coalition are the good performers. I talk about former Sas

1824
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 18: soldier Andrew Hasty, an Indigenous senator Nampa Chimp for price.

1825
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 18: So the good talents on the back bench. And will

1826
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 18: they move on Susan Lee eventually? Yes? Is the candidate

1827
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 18: who could knock her off there in the parliament even

1828
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 18: who knows. But they're in a world of trouble. I

1829
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 18: wrote it the Weekend tongue in cheek really that I

1830
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 18: thought they should bring back Tony Abbott. He released a

1831
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 18: book last week and he's got a three documentary starting

1832
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 18: airing on Sky News from tonight. I think he would

1833
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 18: be sensational.

1834
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: I'll watch it. By the way, there's another pole floating

1835
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 2: around somewhere over the week in a resolve pole that

1836
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: most people in Australia, and they come from all political spectrums.

1837
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: I think the number of people coming into Australia by

1838
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: way of migration is way too high. Would that be

1839
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: your assessment? Generally?

1840
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 18: One hundred? I mean we've got to house in crisis.

1841
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 18: Net migration into the country is huge. I think three

1842
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 18: million people over the last four years or something like that,

1843
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 18: and most people think, look, let's just pause for a while.

1844
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 18: We're not anti migration because this country is built on migrants,

1845
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 18: but we're bringing in too many people, and you know,

1846
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 18: people like myself, so I think we should also question

1847
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 18: where we're bringing people in from and we should have

1848
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 18: a good hard look at it. At the moment you

1849
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 18: say that you're classified as a racist and someone who

1850
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 18: doesn't like migrants, well, I think most people just would

1851
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 18: like a pause.

1852
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough to Matt Pain as well of ours.

1853
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: By the way, just in case you were somehow trying

1854
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: to work out how to make them Australia. You had

1855
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: to see it to believe it.

1856
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 18: A It was unbelievable. I mean three, I reckon, four

1857
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 18: laps to go, I said, I reckon. Matt Painter will

1858
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 18: win this because the bloat leading at the time was

1859
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 18: a rookie and he looked very nervous. Pain was behind him.

1860
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 18: Anyone listening to us who didn't watch Bathist the Great

1861
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 18: one thousand k motor race yesterday, I didn't watch it all,

1862
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 18: but I watched the last hour. It started to rain

1863
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 18: and then the clouds descended on Mount Panorama and they

1864
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 18: couldn't even see through the clouds. And it was a

1865
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 18: cracking drive by Matt paint who just kept his nerve

1866
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 18: and one Baptist along with his co driver Gartander, who's

1867
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 18: now won six Bathist type of thanks to Matt Paine.

1868
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 18: That drive yesterday was unbelieved.

1869
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: He's a legend. I saw the weather came through Simon

1870
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 2: and Siddenly this whole lot of trees fell over massive

1871
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: winds yesterday and I happened to be watching it early

1872
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: in the morning at seven o'clock in your time. And Bathurst,

1873
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,879
Speaker 2: that part of the world. There was just a wisp

1874
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: of cloud across the valley. It was a crystal clear

1875
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: blue sky and then it all turns to crap by

1876
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: the end of the day.

1877
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 18: Yeah, it came over the mountains that we're set in.

1878
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 18: As you said to us, some damaged in Sydney. Baptist

1879
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 18: is like that. I mean that motor race has painted

1880
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 18: more amazing stories over its history than any other motorsport

1881
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 18: race anywhere in the world. And if you've ever go,

1882
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 18: if you ever go to Bathist, anyone listening to us,

1883
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 18: just take your little tootle around the Bathist motor circuit,

1884
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 18: which you can drive on because it's a public road.

1885
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 18: And you won't believe the elevation on the top of

1886
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 18: the mountain down to the bottom. How they drive around

1887
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 18: there at two hundred columbers.

1888
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: Now it's got me amazing. All right, mat go, we'll

1889
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 2: see you Wednesday. Steve Price, out of Australia, eight forty five.

1890
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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard

1891
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: By News talks at b.

1892
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Speaker 2: Some up and down, some good and bad for the economy.

1893
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 2: I note this morning the number of companies into liquid Ocean.

1894
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 2: There is going to be worse than last year, probably

1895
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: not surprisingly and despite the fact the economy is slowly

1896
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 2: but surely coming right. Liquidations are sort of the last

1897
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 2: cab off the rank. It's nowhere near, fortunately as bad

1898
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 2: as the GFC. It's a mile short of the GFC,

1899
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: so that's encouraging. But we got about thirty two hundred

1900
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: and fifty eight liquidations in the country. The good news

1901
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 2: is and I was a bit worried about this because

1902
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 2: as reading about Golden Golden Week has been in China

1903
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 2: and this is where the mass migration, I mean hundreds

1904
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 2: of millions of people on the move, and of course

1905
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 2: you'd hope that some of them would buy an airteket

1906
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,839
Speaker 2: and come to New Zealand and help our beleagued tourism

1907
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: sector out. But I was reading over the weekend about

1908
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 2: the Middle East, the numbers around the Middle East. If

1909
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: you ever want to see a group of people do

1910
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 2: something spectacular, the Middle East has been in terms of

1911
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: trying to diversify them themselves out of oil and they're

1912
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: looking at being a harb they're looking at being tourism,

1913
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. Sport is their other big

1914
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 2: one of course. Anyway, Chinese outbound travelers big on the

1915
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: Middle East at the moment. So basically Doha bookings into

1916
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 2: Doha are up four hundred and forty one percent on

1917
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 2: a year FO one hundred and forty one, Abu Dhabi

1918
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty nine, Dubai, which was already popular,

1919
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: up twenty seven percent, so the United Arab Emirates itself

1920
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: as in Dubai. Chinese travelers who traveled in premium business

1921
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 2: or first class, and this is what it's telling you

1922
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 2: on Friday, the demand for premium economy travelers through the

1923
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: roof around the world. But those people at the front

1924
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: of the plane, their bookings into that part of the

1925
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: world are up one hundred and thirty three percent. Chinese

1926
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: travelers heading to the Middle East are from China from

1927
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: the region just generally, so China to the Middle East

1928
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: flights are up twenty five percent, and when you compare

1929
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: it to the same period pre COVID, it's up one

1930
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty percent. So they are loving the Middle East.

1931
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: Now here's the good news. The five fastest growing overseas

1932
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: destinations for hotel bookings during the Golden Week were the

1933
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 2: aforementioned UAE and Saudi Arabia, but also Egypt, Kazakhstan unusual

1934
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: and you got it New Zealand. So the Chinese thing might,

1935
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: because that's what's been holding us up. That's why we're

1936
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: sitting at eighty six eighty seven percent of what we were.

1937
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: The Chinese thing might, fingers crossed, be coming right nine

1938
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: to nine.

1939
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: So my costing breakfast with the land rover, defender and

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Speaker 1: news togs.

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Speaker 2: Dead b Now life on the water's edge. Nothing else

1942
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Speaker 2: like at Norkland. This is Catalina Bay apartments, genuinely on

1943
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Speaker 2: the water's edge. I was looking at the video. This

1944
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Speaker 2: morning's pretty good video apart from anything it's been, in fact,

1945
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Speaker 2: so good. You sit there thing. I wouldn't mind sitting

1946
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Speaker 2: on that balcony anyway. Rare chance to live with the

1947
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Speaker 2: harbor greets you which morning, and the city's only twenty

1948
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Speaker 2: five minutes away, so you create a new routine, whether

1949
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Speaker 2: it's walking that boardwalk, strolling through the weekend markets, or

1950
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Speaker 2: evenings with a little wine on the balcony as the

1951
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Speaker 2: sun sets across the bay. It's a beautiful part of

1952
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Speaker 2: the world. These are unique freehold waterfront residences in a

1953
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Speaker 2: vibrant community. They're secure, they're enduring, their crafted by a

1954
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Speaker 2: proven team. So if you're looking to simplify a life

1955
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Speaker 2: or downsize and you want to make an investment in

1956
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Speaker 2: lasting value, Catalina Bay Apartments are where lifestyle well and

1957
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Speaker 2: your future certainly meet homes and a lifestyle ready for now.

1958
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Speaker 2: Basically flexiible settlement two available make the movie easier. If

1959
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Speaker 2: that's what you need, your book, your private appointment, it's

1960
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Speaker 2: all at Catalina Bay Apartments. It's all one word. Even

1961
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Speaker 2: I did that Catalina Bay Apartments dot co dot in

1962
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Speaker 2: z asking no. I was reading over the weekend of

1963
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Speaker 2: the British Press, talked to Rod about it tomorrow. In fact,

1964
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Speaker 2: we probably wont because I'm already over it, said Tony

1965
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Speaker 2: Blair met Jeffrey Epstein. Headline Tony Blair met Jeffrey Epstein.

1966
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Speaker 2: Are we going to go through every person that Jeffrey

1967
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Speaker 2: Epstein ever met in his entire life? And now the

1968
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Speaker 2: meeting is Blair recalls it whilst thirty minutes, So think

1969
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Speaker 2: about it. Sensibly, Epstein's a big wheel, He's got a

1970
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Speaker 2: lot of dough. He's moving in big circles and at

1971
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Speaker 2: some point when he's in Britain, abe try and tee

1972
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Speaker 2: up a meeting with the Prime Minister of the day

1973
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Speaker 2: happens to be Tony Blair. So he spent thirty minutes

1974
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Speaker 2: talking about business. Apparently that was the beginning of the

1975
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Speaker 2: middle and the end of it. So the fact that

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Speaker 2: you met somebody who once twenty thirty years ago is

1977
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Speaker 2: somehow a thing. And if it is a thing, how

1978
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Speaker 2: long is this thing going to go on for? Are

1979
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Speaker 2: We're literally going to have headlines for every well known

1980
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Speaker 2: person whoever met Jeffrey Epstein once five minutes away from nine.

1981
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Speaker 1: Now with Chemist Warehouse celebrate big Brands and biggest savings.

1982
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Speaker 2: So Robbie Williams was on Graham Norton. If you haven't

1983
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Speaker 2: caught up on this, this is this is moderately entertaining.

1984
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Speaker 2: So he's on Norton Show. He's got his new album

1985
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Speaker 2: out's called britt Pop. Now he's made brick Pop solely

1986
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Speaker 2: so he can get the sixteenth number one UK album

1987
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Speaker 2: and in doing that he would then beat the Beatles

1988
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Speaker 2: because they're currently tied at fifteen apiece. So on the

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Speaker 2: sofa with Robbie and Graham is Colin Farrell, Benedict cumber

1990
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Speaker 2: Patch and as you will find out, Julia Roberts Williams

1991
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Speaker 2: do you know on the coach?

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Speaker 26: No, everybody from watching them on the Tully Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 26: And Julia Roberts, Oh my god, I can't. I watched

1994
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Speaker 26: I've watched Pretty Woman six times in a row, and

1995
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Speaker 26: at the end of the sixth time I was like,

1996
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Speaker 26: one day.

1997
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Speaker 2: I will take a prostitute shop in oh.

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Speaker 18: And I did.

1999
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Speaker 10: I did.

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Speaker 22: That's a lovely story, Robble, that's really lovely.

2001
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Speaker 2: You can't say he's not brilliant. And if you've ever

2002
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Speaker 2: if you've got the time a period last summer, it

2003
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Speaker 2: was the summer of the last summer I can't remember

2004
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Speaker 2: which he went through on his social media, and he

2005
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Speaker 2: wandered through public places in Britain, and as he passed people,

2006
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Speaker 2: he was waiting to see whether they recognized him or not.

2007
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Speaker 2: And he was wearing the particularly funny one he was

2008
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Speaker 2: wearing a pink suit walking through Hyde Park coming home

2009
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Speaker 2: from dinner, and the pink suit differentiated itself slightly because

2010
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Speaker 2: not only was it pinky, pink shorts, and he just

2011
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Speaker 2: kept walking through Hyde Park in his pink in his

2012
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Speaker 2: pink suit singing. He started singing and people no one

2013
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Speaker 2: recognized him and it gets funnier and funny, as it

2014
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Speaker 2: wasn't like this in the old days. Anyway. The other

2015
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Speaker 2: thing about Robie Williams, I thought he was claiming last

2016
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Speaker 2: week he's got Turett's and if he's developing Turetts, I

2017
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Speaker 2: don't know why he's running the risk of going on

2018
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Speaker 2: the Graham Norton Show. But there you go. We're back

2019
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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning from six Tuesday Morning, look forward to your company, Happy.

2020
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Speaker 15: How Fast?

2021
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Speaker 23: And only twice?

2022
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2023
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2024
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