1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,413 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks AB. 3 00:00:12,693 --> 00:00:16,373 Speaker 2: Doctor Brian Betty is here talking in grown toenails this morning, 4 00:00:16,373 --> 00:00:20,213 Speaker 2: you get all the glamorous subjects. Brian, Well, what actually 5 00:00:20,253 --> 00:00:23,013 Speaker 2: are in How do we recognize them? 6 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:24,013 Speaker 1: Yeah? 7 00:00:24,013 --> 00:00:27,093 Speaker 3: Look, look really really common. We see them all the 8 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:30,253 Speaker 3: time and they typically occur when the corner of the 9 00:00:30,333 --> 00:00:33,853 Speaker 3: side of the toenail, especially the large tone, grows into 10 00:00:33,853 --> 00:00:37,973 Speaker 3: the surrounding skin. So this occurs in the big toenail, 11 00:00:38,053 --> 00:00:41,013 Speaker 3: often on the outside of the toenail, and we start 12 00:00:41,053 --> 00:00:43,773 Speaker 3: to sort of see pain along the edge of the toenail. 13 00:00:43,853 --> 00:00:46,333 Speaker 3: People come in and sort of say, oh, it's really painful. 14 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:48,333 Speaker 3: Starts to get a bit red at the edge of 15 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:51,053 Speaker 3: the toenail. There's a bit of swelling that starts to occur, 16 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:54,253 Speaker 3: and it's very very tender to touch, so people say, oh, 17 00:00:54,373 --> 00:00:57,533 Speaker 3: touch it. It's really really sore. So very very common, 18 00:00:57,773 --> 00:01:00,173 Speaker 3: and it's where this nail starts to grow under the 19 00:01:00,173 --> 00:01:01,573 Speaker 3: skin and cause a problem. 20 00:01:01,693 --> 00:01:04,253 Speaker 2: What actually causes them, Look. 21 00:01:04,133 --> 00:01:08,453 Speaker 3: The commonest thing is badly cut toenails. So if they 22 00:01:08,493 --> 00:01:12,413 Speaker 3: are cut too short or the edges around the nail 23 00:01:12,453 --> 00:01:14,733 Speaker 3: can start to grow under the skin. So that's probably 24 00:01:14,973 --> 00:01:19,253 Speaker 3: the commonest thing we see now. Very tight fitting footwear 25 00:01:19,533 --> 00:01:22,133 Speaker 3: starts to put pressure on the nail and curve the 26 00:01:22,213 --> 00:01:24,573 Speaker 3: nail under, which can make it grow under the skin 27 00:01:25,293 --> 00:01:28,053 Speaker 3: or actually injuring the nail. So if you stub your toe, 28 00:01:28,253 --> 00:01:30,853 Speaker 3: or if you're a runner and there's recurrent pressure or 29 00:01:30,933 --> 00:01:32,933 Speaker 3: trauma on the side of the nail, that can actually 30 00:01:33,213 --> 00:01:37,293 Speaker 3: set you up to do it more uncommon causes genetics 31 00:01:37,373 --> 00:01:41,493 Speaker 3: sometimes cause rounded toenails, and actually occasionally medication, so a 32 00:01:41,533 --> 00:01:45,293 Speaker 3: medication called isotrenin that we use to treat acne can 33 00:01:45,293 --> 00:01:49,653 Speaker 3: actually set up conditions for ingrown toenails to occur. So, yeah, 34 00:01:49,653 --> 00:01:51,253 Speaker 3: who would have guessed happens? 35 00:01:51,933 --> 00:01:53,373 Speaker 2: How do you treat them? 36 00:01:53,973 --> 00:01:57,693 Speaker 3: Look, if they're very early, then just warm salt water 37 00:01:57,813 --> 00:02:01,013 Speaker 3: baths for about soaking the feet in salt water for 38 00:02:01,093 --> 00:02:05,013 Speaker 3: about well fifteen twenty minutes softens the skin and softens 39 00:02:05,013 --> 00:02:07,533 Speaker 3: the nail. Then what you can do is just lift 40 00:02:07,533 --> 00:02:08,973 Speaker 3: the edge of the nail and pop a little bit 41 00:02:08,973 --> 00:02:11,133 Speaker 3: of cotton wool under it and it allows the nail 42 00:02:11,173 --> 00:02:13,493 Speaker 3: to grow out. It's a really really easy thing that 43 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:17,453 Speaker 3: you can actually do and obviously wear more comfortable footwear 44 00:02:18,053 --> 00:02:22,093 Speaker 3: now Occasionally, because the skin is broken, bacteria get down 45 00:02:22,253 --> 00:02:24,293 Speaker 3: under the skin and you can get an infection, so 46 00:02:24,373 --> 00:02:28,333 Speaker 3: antibiotics become required. And where those simple measures don't work, 47 00:02:28,573 --> 00:02:33,253 Speaker 3: you actually need a simple procedure done under local anesthetic 48 00:02:33,813 --> 00:02:35,973 Speaker 3: called nail the vulsion. That's where we cut away the 49 00:02:36,013 --> 00:02:38,893 Speaker 3: side of the nail, put some chemical on it to 50 00:02:38,893 --> 00:02:42,693 Speaker 3: stop it growing back, and it cures the problem. So yeah, yeah, 51 00:02:42,733 --> 00:02:45,053 Speaker 3: that's where you end up. If it continues to be 52 00:02:45,093 --> 00:02:45,533 Speaker 3: a problem. 53 00:02:45,613 --> 00:02:47,133 Speaker 2: Can you prevent them? 54 00:02:47,653 --> 00:02:51,453 Speaker 3: Look, you can. The big thing is cutting your nails, 55 00:02:51,773 --> 00:02:54,253 Speaker 3: So allow the nails to grow out a bit and 56 00:02:54,293 --> 00:02:57,133 Speaker 3: cut them square and not round, and that tends to 57 00:02:57,173 --> 00:03:01,373 Speaker 3: reduce the chances of it happening. Obviously, avoid tight shoes, 58 00:03:01,413 --> 00:03:03,453 Speaker 3: as we've talked about, because they can put pressure on 59 00:03:03,493 --> 00:03:06,813 Speaker 3: that nail edge. And look, keep your feet clean, dry, 60 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:08,933 Speaker 3: because if we know that your feet are sweaty, it 61 00:03:09,053 --> 00:03:12,013 Speaker 3: sort of softens the nails, allows them to curve over 62 00:03:12,093 --> 00:03:14,013 Speaker 3: a bit and can actually start to grow under the skin. 63 00:03:14,173 --> 00:03:16,573 Speaker 3: So some basic things you can do to try and 64 00:03:16,933 --> 00:03:17,853 Speaker 3: prevent them happening. 65 00:03:18,533 --> 00:03:20,813 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you, Brian. Doctor Brian Biddy with us this 66 00:03:20,933 --> 00:03:21,973 Speaker 2: morning for 67 00:03:22,093 --> 00:03:25,173 Speaker 1: More from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame listen live to 68 00:03:25,253 --> 00:03:28,253 Speaker 1: News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or follow 69 00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:29,893 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio