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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Doing there from a Jump here. I don't really know

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Speaker 2: how was the beager I've been doing me another hot it.

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Speaker 3: This is Jess b from the Jump playing Exploor this

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Speaker 3: weekend for the last time. Exploor's last hurrah at the

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Speaker 3: Guitar Papa Kanga Regional Park. It's been going for twenty

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Speaker 3: eight years. I think now our music reviewer Chris Shultz

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Speaker 3: is going to be there. As soon as he's finished

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Speaker 3: this little conversation, he's going to make his way to

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Speaker 3: Splore for the last time.

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Speaker 2: It's sad, isn't it. I feel a little emotional. I've

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Speaker 2: seen the posters up around town and that they are

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Speaker 2: putting it on the posters. They're saying, this is the

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Speaker 2: last splaw. Definitively, there's no coming back from this. I

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Speaker 2: was nineteen years old when this festival started. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: there was no social media, there were no cell phones.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of wild to think about how long this

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Speaker 2: festival has endured. It is the longest running music festival

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Speaker 2: in the country.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight years?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's longer than the Big day out that's

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Speaker 2: longer than rhythm and vines. That's what I believe. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if it's not, it's right.

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Speaker 3: Certainly for a festivals of a certain size, right and scale, like.

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Speaker 2: A multi stage music festival of you know, several like

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Speaker 2: many thousands of people. Yeah, it's up there.

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Speaker 3: So for people who don't know SPORW, can you just

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Speaker 3: give us a bit of a like once over explained floor.

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Speaker 2: It's in the bush, Like, it's not on the bush,

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Speaker 2: it's on the beach. It's the beach. You can literally

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Speaker 2: see the main stage and stand in the water with

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Speaker 2: waves lapping at your toes. It's that kind of vibe.

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Speaker 2: There's trees, you camp, there's a lot of colorful outfits.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who've been going the whole time.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, I'm looking at you right now,

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Speaker 3: and you're very sensibly dressed in a white T shirt

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Speaker 3: and shorts. I was sort of expecting, Yeah there, I

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Speaker 3: was expecting, you know, like bray in your hair, nipple

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Speaker 3: rings and none of that.

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Speaker 2: But they're in the back of the car. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll put them on after this.

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Speaker 3: It's always had a kind of alternative vibe, right although

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Speaker 3: the alternative vibe has over time become a bit more mainstream.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, yeah. Yeah, but the headliners they get, you know,

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Speaker 2: the lineup is always the best thing about it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Today you can see you know this great Aukland mostly

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Speaker 2: female punk band Dick Move. You can see the Wellington

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Speaker 2: singer a Stare, you can suggest b and then you

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Speaker 2: can see the UK Nightmares on Wax Collective. You know,

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Speaker 2: like they're doing a DJ set that's been around for decades.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm going out there. You know that their

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Speaker 2: music is just so good for any occasion. Really, they've

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Speaker 2: got an album or a soundtrack for it. So it's

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Speaker 2: the kind of festival where you can see all these

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Speaker 2: different genres, see all these different people. Often a lot

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Speaker 2: of kids. Kids get I think it's under twelve get

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Speaker 2: them for free. So real family vibe. Yeah, I'm hoping

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Speaker 2: today's not too emotional. I'm hoping the emotions come out

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Speaker 2: on the Sunday. This is more of a celebration on

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Speaker 2: a Saturday. I think it's probably tomorrow when it might hit.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe there's a bit of a hangover and

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Speaker 2: people are like, oh, we're not doing this again. The

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Speaker 2: promoter John Minty has spoken about how he tried to

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Speaker 2: keep it going. He applied for the government's Major Events Boost,

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Speaker 2: which is a fund that's been created to keep things

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Speaker 2: like this happening to bring artists to the country to

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Speaker 2: make events possible. When he got denied, he only needed

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Speaker 2: I think it was two hundred and seventy thousand, He said,

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Speaker 2: he just needed a help through this kind of economic

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Speaker 2: crisis when costs for artists, winners and stages have gone

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Speaker 2: up and people aren't buying quite as many tickets. There's

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Speaker 2: raise of thin margins, he said, four or five hundred

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Speaker 2: tickets as kind of make or break where he's at.

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Speaker 3: That's stressful, Yeah, because it just seems crazy to me, Like,

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Speaker 3: given how popular it is, it seems crazy to me

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Speaker 3: that they would that ticket sales would be the reason

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Speaker 3: that they can't continue.

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Speaker 2: It's not the only one. I mean, look at Womad's

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Speaker 2: called things off this year, Listening called it off last year.

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Speaker 2: Splor actually took a year off last year hoping things

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Speaker 2: would improve, and then came out and said they haven't

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real shame. I mean, it's not lost

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Speaker 2: on me that this is the weekend when the last

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Speaker 2: Splaw is happening next weekend. Electric Avenue, a festival that

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Speaker 2: cannot stop growing, like it just keeps getting bigger and bigger,

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Speaker 2: is happening in christ Church, and so that juxtaposition is

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Speaker 2: quite jarring, like why does Explaw not work but Electric Avenue.

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Speaker 3: Which is even Yeah, it's I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, that's why I love this industry. It's full of

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Speaker 2: these potholes and these these It's always changing, and an

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Speaker 2: artist that worked one year may not work the next,

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Speaker 2: and it's a gamble. These guys, you know, these promoters

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Speaker 2: are gambler. They're putting it all on the line every show,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes it just doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Are you camping, I'm definitely not going to be camping, Jack,

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Speaker 2: but mustart actually turns sixteen to that. I've got I've

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Speaker 2: got a party to organize as well, So I'm nupping

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Speaker 2: out there. I'm going to check it out and see

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Speaker 2: what the vibers, hopefully see nightmares on Wax, and then

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Speaker 2: get back home for for.

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Speaker 3: Him, Yeah, very good. I think the forecast is okay,

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Speaker 3: so because there have been a few sort of knee

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Speaker 3: deep and mud experiences in the past, I think but

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Speaker 3: fingers crossed that won't be the case for the final spot.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, enjoy it. Whyon't you. We'll catch

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Speaker 3: you again Chris Schultz And of course you can hear

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Speaker 3: more from Chris by checking out a substack. For substack

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Speaker 3: is boiler Room. Tammy Nielsen's playing at Sport, so I reckon.

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Speaker 3: We are going to close out the show in a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes from one of hers with one of

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Speaker 3: her tracks, just to mark the end of an era

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Speaker 3: after twenty eight years.

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