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Speaker 2: We are talking all things building and construction right up

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Speaker 2: to a thirty helen. Greetings to you, good morning to you. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: how can I help?

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Speaker 4: I've got a thirty three year old house. I've got

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Speaker 4: a balcony out of my upstairs bedroom which is untiled.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: It's a wooden balcony tiles which and I think you

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Speaker 4: no underneath yep. Over the last eighty months, I've had

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Speaker 4: a huge subdivision developments going on less than three meters away.

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Speaker 4: So sense while there was a couple of cracktailes, I've got,

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Speaker 4: you know, really bad cracktailes, and the groutings are loose

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Speaker 4: and everything else. I'm looking at selling shortly. Do I

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Speaker 4: when do I replace it before I sell?

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Speaker 6: Or two?

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Speaker 4: I have had one quote which is about twenty four stouts.

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Speaker 4: There's something cheaper you can do it with about maybe

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Speaker 4: the tiling or do I need to replace the waterproofing?

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Speaker 2: I guess the first question is does it leak.

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Speaker 4: Downstairs? There is one week occasionally when the wind blows

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Speaker 4: that way. But I've had it tested three or four

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Speaker 4: years ago. And the guys couldn't find a leak by

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Speaker 4: actually squirting the deck. So I'm not convince the deck

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Speaker 4: type thing.

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Speaker 2: So in most instances, because again, if you're going to sell,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be one of the questions, and certainly

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Speaker 2: any halfway decent prepurchase inspection person who comes to look

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Speaker 2: at it will go okay. So what we see here

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Speaker 2: is timber substrate butte nole application direct fixed tiles. Now,

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Speaker 2: even if the job was done really, really well, there's

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Speaker 2: a couple of things. One is you're not allowed to

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Speaker 2: build like that anymore for a number of good reasons.

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Speaker 2: The other one is that it's possibly reaching the end

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Speaker 2: of its life and serviceability is difficult because if there's

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Speaker 2: a problem with the waterproofing, you can't get to it

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Speaker 2: because the tiles are stuck down to it. Certainly removing

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Speaker 2: the tiles is going to damage the waterproofing, in which

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Speaker 2: case you need to replace or repair the waterproofing membrane.

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Speaker 2: And then you can't direct fixed tiles down to waterproofing

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Speaker 2: membrane anymore. So you could do like a timber deck,

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Speaker 2: or you could use jacks with tiles.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that legally.

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Speaker 4: That you can't now direct.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's certainly not compliant with the building code anymore

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Speaker 2: to direct fix it, and to be fair, I'd be

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Speaker 2: there already, even if they said, look, it's maintenance, I'm

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Speaker 2: doing like for like. The reality is we know that

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Speaker 2: these things cause a problem, and so you don't want

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Speaker 2: to leave that problem with somebody else. In fact, if

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Speaker 2: and there was a problem with it, they would be

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Speaker 2: I think liable for the repairs. So I mean there

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Speaker 2: are some systems whereby you could, for example, have the

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Speaker 2: butteanyl if the buttanyle generally is in reasonable condition, as

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Speaker 2: in it's still well adhered to the substrate, you could

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Speaker 2: do a coating over the top of that and then

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Speaker 2: thicker tiles like a nineteen mill tile and have effectively

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Speaker 2: the waterproofing and the advantage of that is that if

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Speaker 2: lift those out and get access to the waterproofing for repair.

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Speaker 2: So that would be a much more cost effective solution,

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Speaker 2: you know, But there's you've got to be realistic around

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Speaker 2: the limitations of how waterproof that might be if you

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Speaker 2: had extensive waterproofing issues, and you know, in all fairness

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Speaker 2: to the contractors, typically if you were doing that work

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Speaker 2: and you wanted to do a sort of absolute belt

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Speaker 2: embracest approach, you might be taking the joinery out, you'd

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Speaker 2: be taking the lower parts of the cladding off, you'd

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Speaker 2: be stripping off the waterproofing completely. You might find for

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Speaker 2: that vintage that the plywood that's underneath it, it will be untreated.

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Speaker 2: In some cases, I've seen that plywould fix down with clouds.

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Speaker 2: The clouds work their way out of the joist and

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Speaker 2: then the head pops up above the plywood and is visible,

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Speaker 2: and that can be I've seen it cut through the waterproofing.

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Speaker 2: So then you say, okay, well then my plywood's no good,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to rip up all the ply would

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Speaker 2: replace that, maybe increase the fall threshold, might not be

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty millimeters, which it's required by the code.

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Speaker 2: Now you can see how these things get complicated.

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Speaker 6: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, But in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of a straightforward repair, it would be remove the tiles,

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Speaker 2: apply waterproofing coating that is compatible with the bututanyl and

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Speaker 2: there are some of those. There's one product called Injurist

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Speaker 2: that I've used recently, not for that application, but a

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Speaker 2: similar type thing. Then you know the jacks and the

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Speaker 2: tiles that'll give you or finish that's maintainable, attractive to

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Speaker 2: look at, and you know it's a reasonable solution.

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Speaker 4: Is there any other sort of like I was sort

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Speaker 4: of looking like a place called Superior Waterproofing of something.

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Speaker 4: Is there any other sizes putting tiles down? Any other option?

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Speaker 2: Well, essentially you either tend to go tiles or timber, right,

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Speaker 2: so you might make up a raft like a timber

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Speaker 2: raft that sits on these jacks, on these pedestals. The

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Speaker 2: whole thing is whatever we put over waterproofing in that

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Speaker 2: situation where it's protecting a habitable space below has to

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Speaker 2: be serviceable. So whatever decking system, whether it's tiles or timber,

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Speaker 2: a way as it can be demountable, can be lifted up,

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Speaker 2: and you can get access to the waterproofing for maintenance.

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Speaker 2: So yes, you can do timber or you can do tiles.

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Speaker 2: All right, a couple of options. Therefore you okay, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, good luck all the us take care

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Speaker 3: All of this.

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Speaker 2: Quick text before we get rid. Actually this is a

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Speaker 2: really interesting one. Morning. I've sold part of my land

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Speaker 2: so the neighbors can create a driveway for better access

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Speaker 2: to their property. We had someone come over quote the work,

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Speaker 2: accepted it and it got underway. Halfway through, they realized

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Speaker 2: that a retaining war was needed and wanted to charge

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Speaker 2: us an extra thirty grand to complete this. Where do

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Speaker 2: myself and the contractors stand. The contractor has taken some ownership,

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Speaker 2: but the quote has changed significantly since then. It's a

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Speaker 2: really challenging one because you know, like a reasonably well

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Speaker 2: informed contractor will know what the heights will be, and

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not like a retaining wall magically suddenly

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Speaker 2: becomes necessary. So you know, was there a problem with

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Speaker 2: the scope of works? You know, when asking the contractor

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Speaker 2: to price for work, did the floor levels or the

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Speaker 2: finished ground levels not be clearly identified, or did he

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Speaker 2: just simply or they not take responsibility, take due care

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Speaker 2: to ensure that if they were going to excavate down

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Speaker 2: half a meter, for example, then you're going to need

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Speaker 2: a retaining war. But of course if it's not in

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Speaker 2: their quote, if they didn't quote for a retaining war,

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Speaker 2: then it becomes a kind of ethical thing as to

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Speaker 2: should they have informed you that a retaining war was

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Speaker 2: likely so that you could price it into the job.

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Speaker 2: Be interesting to know how you get on with that one, Rightio,

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Speaker 2: let's jump into the garden. Red climb past is on

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Speaker 2: standby back with rut In just a moment, just a

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Speaker 2: lot bit excited every week every week, How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, mate, I'm good. Do little things. First of all,

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Speaker 3: last week we released ten kiwi in Yes, did you

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Speaker 3: hear about it? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Are they tracked? Are you monitoring them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Gosh yeah, well say yeah, they got transmitters up there.

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Speaker 3: But brilliant, make no mistake. We know where they are

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Speaker 3: and it's really cool to see the little dots of

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Speaker 3: where they are, you know, when they're settling in. So

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Speaker 3: that's number one. I thought that was brilliant, And number

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Speaker 3: two is This is something for people that have been,

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Speaker 3: you know, teachers that have been to the Blake Inspired

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Speaker 3: thing that we do every year three times with the

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Speaker 3: Supeter Blake Trust, if you like, we have in christ

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Speaker 3: Church a reunion of the Blaky's if you like, on

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Speaker 3: the twenty ninth of May. That's only a couple of

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Speaker 3: days ago, a couple of days away. It's on Thursday

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Speaker 3: at the Craft Embassy from five thirty to seven thirty.

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Speaker 3: Abby Sider will organize that. Everybody will know her email address.

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Speaker 3: If you've been at Blake and everybody is welcome, I'm

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Speaker 3: going as well. It'll be good to talk to me,

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Speaker 3: to talk to the teachers, to see what I've done

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Speaker 3: over the last few years after doing the Blake Inspired thing.

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Speaker 3: It's so cool.

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Speaker 2: Fabulous, Yeah, fabulous radio. Let's get into what it's gonna

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Speaker 2: get busy. Nick greetings, morning morning.

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Speaker 5: How do you guys name?

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Speaker 3: We're going well? Nick?

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Speaker 5: Hey, So I emailed through a photo of some trees.

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Speaker 5: I just purchased a property and I think to judge

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Speaker 5: the property up, they put a little bit of that

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Speaker 5: some black bark down and when I looked at the

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Speaker 5: photo from looked at the property, initially the trees looks fine,

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Speaker 5: and then two weeks later, as you can see in

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Speaker 5: those photos, they're all starting to die. And I'm just

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Speaker 5: wondering if that's anything to do with the bark, or

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Speaker 5: if they get a disease, or what the story might be,

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Speaker 5: if you might be.

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Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with the bark. It has

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with the white soccer ball that's in there.

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Speaker 3: It has everything to do.

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Speaker 5: The way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, So it's football, is it football?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I get it. I tell you what. It

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Speaker 3: has something to do with something you did not see,

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Speaker 3: and even I can pick it up on your picture.

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Speaker 3: There are lots of little case moths in those trees.

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Speaker 3: The trees, by the way, tuya or kamasiprus, which are

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Speaker 3: if you like, you know anyway they like pine trees,

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Speaker 3: if you like, they belong to that group. But the

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Speaker 3: case moths you didn't see are the ones that are

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Speaker 3: covered in silk. Inside that silk and sometimes they're up

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Speaker 5: Okay, look, this is the twentieth three is it's justly

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it's you can do Look, you can do

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Speaker 5: It'll be the case marsters versus neck marks versus.

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Speaker 3: Neck Yeah, it will be and I reckon you can

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Speaker 2: Thanks your Sunday sorted. Yeah, thanks very much for calling Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: What what can we do with you.

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Speaker 7: We've got a mandarin trade that we've had for about

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Speaker 7: it fruits really well. Last year it excelled itself. We

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Speaker 3: So something has totally stuffed everything in that tree, or

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Speaker 3: had a really good year. That sometimes happens when things

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Speaker 7: Okay, it's right to sign an orange tree and that

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Speaker 3: Maly, Okay. You you fertilize both of those quite regularly,

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Speaker 7: Spring three times a year. We give it about three

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Speaker 3: And what is that fertilizer if I may ask.

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Speaker 7: Oh, we usually by ten a citrus fertilizer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, excellent, that's all you need now. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: But if you say citrus fertilizer, you'll be fine because

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Speaker 3: I reckon there was something this year or the year

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Speaker 7: Okay, but next year I speak to broad again.

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Speaker 3: If I were a betting man, I'd bet on your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, awesome, good luck to you, take care,

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Speaker 2: go well mate, all the very best, and Alistair hello.

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Speaker 6: Mor Later there were going, what can we do with you, Elisair?

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Speaker 6: Pruning of fijos. Obviously We've finished the fruiting there, and

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Speaker 6: I've got a few plants here that are probably about

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Speaker 6: can I prune the fijos.

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Speaker 3: As hard as you like?

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Speaker 6: She's telling me that the birds should be able to

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Speaker 6: fly through them. I'm like, oh, how big of the

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Speaker 6: bloody birds. But okay, I can go hard check it.

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Speaker 2: Chicken sauce, chickens.

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Speaker 6: I got chickens, and I don't like to see Alistair.

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Speaker 3: This is this, This is what we did when Billboard

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Speaker 3: the same thing. You get, indeed, a frozen chuck out

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Speaker 6: Right. That's an interesting technology, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know it is they always say a bird should be

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Speaker 3: able to fly through it. So what does that look like?

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Speaker 3: What I just gave you the picture. But but the

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Speaker 3: very Yeah, they are very easy to prone. Yeah, no problems.

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Speaker 6: More looking for the actual ease of harvest as well,

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Speaker 6: because there obviously a bag of the the fruit under

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Speaker 3: I know exactly what you mean. And still that is

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Speaker 3: because they do you have to wait for them to

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Speaker 6: It's okay, So go hard with the printing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can again if you want it smaller

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Speaker 3: and narrow, well, yeah, go for it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I might try that with two or three.

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Speaker 6: That's perfect. No, that's good, Thanks so much for that.

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Speaker 3: Rud, go for it. You can do it.

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Speaker 2: Typically it's the sort of thing that I leave to Jay,

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Speaker 2: say you can't kill them, but it's amazing how much

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Speaker 3: Absolutely and they will refurbish, no problem at all. You're

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Speaker 2: Well, probably the fairer way of putting it is I

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Speaker 2: done that to the fijos, you're doing okay, right, Pie

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Speaker 2: Creasings to you, Pie, Hello Greasings.

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Speaker 3: He got it.

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Speaker 8: I've got an issue with my liquid embers. There seems

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Speaker 3: Difference in the systems. But you've got fung fungy growing.

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Speaker 8: There not I'm not sure if it's fungal, but it's

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Speaker 8: it's like the bark has become crinkly, you know what

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Speaker 8: I mean, on the liquid ember and it seems to

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Speaker 3: So ah, could could that be liken you're talking about?

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Speaker 5: No, it's not liking.

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Speaker 7: It's okay, I do, I do.

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Speaker 8: It's it just seems to be some type of growth.

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Speaker 8: It's happening on it, and when you try and take

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Speaker 3: Oh m oh, what's the color of that stuff?

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Speaker 8: It's coming out like a gray gray type of color. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it looks kind of looks like a back, but it's

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Speaker 8: it's not. Yeah, because some of the trees are dying

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Speaker 8: well throughout the other trees. I'm trying to make a

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Speaker 3: No, I I don't know what that is. I can't

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Speaker 3: say that I've seen that, to be quite honest. I

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Speaker 3: its leaves, of course because and beautiful colors, but I've

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Speaker 8: We did have a look on that on Google and stuff,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are nasty things. Those are usually quite hard

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Speaker 3: were talking about a fungicide before, did you a possible

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Speaker 3: finger side use?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I would try that, yeah, yeah, and if that doesn't

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Speaker 3: that it goes inside the plant. You know what I mean? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I do, yes, by this is this is unusual. I've

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Speaker 5: My yeah, no crazyh Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well I could send you some photos of it's.

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Speaker 3: All right, don't worry. I can picture what what's happening.

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Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't. I don't think i've seen

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Okay, I kind of thought, you know, because we're

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Speaker 8: we're still eighting degrees up here in northmand I just

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Speaker 8: all the very.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day. Take care. We're taking short break

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Speaker 2: with Bick with Susan After the break.

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