1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Look, I'm assuming the instigators of the second COVID inquiry 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: are deeply disappointed in what is unfolding in terms of accountability. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Inquiry Part one was a Labour government's stitch up of 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: course and exercise and smoke and mirrors. Inquiry Part two 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: a coalition deal driven by ACT in New Zealand. First 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: was designed to look into areas not touched in Part one, 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: access to vaccine lockdown's economic damage and so on. I've 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: argued since the start we needed actually an adversarial approach, 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: in other words, British style call people to a witness stand, 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: hold them accountable. We didn't do that, and now we're 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: paying the price. Madern and Hipkins, along with Robinson and Verel, 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: declined to appear. No kidding A what a surprise. I 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: wonder why Now Grant Illingworth KC, who's in charge of 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: the current work, has the power apparently to pull them in. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: He's choosing not to do so. Hence my assumption of 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: disappointment at a political party level. The Illingworth justification is 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: the aforementioned operators are cooperating with proceedings not good enough 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: in my book, or indeed anywhere close. So simple question 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: is there a broad expectation among ordinary everyday New Zealander 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: is that those who made life changing calls and a 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: life changing period of this country owe it to us 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: all to front and be questioned under oath about why 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: they did what they did. Another question, what does it 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: say about the morals and character of said people who 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: seek public mandate and public support and approval that when 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: things get a bit orkies, they're nowhere to be seen. 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: Where is the courage of their conviction? Where are their 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: spines and their gonads? How can a person like Hipkins 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: and indeed veryl who also is refusing to front, possibly 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: present themselves to the voting public next year with a 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: straight face and ask once again for the power to 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: around the country having been the same people who in 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: August of this year ran for the hills when accountability 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: came calling. The rules of engagement were lacking at the 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: COVID inquiry. So we are being let down. Illingworth's head 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: with a power to do better apparently is letting us down, 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: but nowhere near adern Hepkins, Robertson and Verel, who should 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: be ashamed of themselves For more from the mic Asking 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: Breakfast listen live to News talks at B from six 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio