1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB. 3 00:00:13,227 --> 00:00:15,747 Speaker 2: And even back then he was determined to do this 4 00:00:15,827 --> 00:00:18,907 Speaker 2: and here we are, Here we are. He's looking for 5 00:00:18,947 --> 00:00:21,227 Speaker 2: a bit of extra speed though. His first two practice 6 00:00:21,467 --> 00:00:24,387 Speaker 2: practice sessions on the Albert Park track yesterday, Liam Lawson 7 00:00:24,427 --> 00:00:28,147 Speaker 2: saw him set the sixteenth and seventeenth fast times and 8 00:00:28,227 --> 00:00:31,187 Speaker 2: the two outings McLaren's Orlando Noris set the pace in 9 00:00:31,227 --> 00:00:34,107 Speaker 2: the first session, third and the second session. Charl Leclair 10 00:00:34,227 --> 00:00:38,147 Speaker 2: also pretty quick, highly respected motorsport identity and bring the 11 00:00:38,187 --> 00:00:41,547 Speaker 2: experience of three decades with McLaren Formula one to the show. 12 00:00:41,587 --> 00:00:44,267 Speaker 2: Bob McMurray is with us. Bob good to chat is 13 00:00:44,307 --> 00:00:49,027 Speaker 2: always what can or should we read into Liam's practice 14 00:00:49,067 --> 00:00:49,867 Speaker 2: times yesterday? 15 00:00:51,747 --> 00:00:54,747 Speaker 3: Hi, piny Well, Yes, that's a big call, but not 16 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:58,867 Speaker 3: a lot, is my first reaction. That was day one 17 00:00:59,107 --> 00:01:01,907 Speaker 3: out of seventy two days. He's got another seventy one 18 00:01:01,947 --> 00:01:08,147 Speaker 3: to go the second one today. Yes he was he 19 00:01:08,267 --> 00:01:10,587 Speaker 3: was slow, There's no doubt about it. He was slow. 20 00:01:11,027 --> 00:01:13,067 Speaker 3: But the only thing he's got to think about really 21 00:01:13,227 --> 00:01:15,307 Speaker 3: is that he is going to be compared to his 22 00:01:15,387 --> 00:01:20,707 Speaker 3: teammate and his teammate Max with Stappan is also struggling now. 23 00:01:20,987 --> 00:01:25,827 Speaker 3: In the second session, Liam was half a second, just 24 00:01:25,907 --> 00:01:29,187 Speaker 3: over half a second slower than for Stappen, and that's 25 00:01:29,267 --> 00:01:32,667 Speaker 3: not so bad really in a car that is clearly 26 00:01:32,827 --> 00:01:33,947 Speaker 3: a bit reculcitrant. 27 00:01:34,067 --> 00:01:34,107 Speaker 1: No. 28 00:01:34,267 --> 00:01:38,507 Speaker 3: Ronnie read last night that in many ways Liam's car 29 00:01:38,707 --> 00:01:41,027 Speaker 3: was different to max is in that Liam was running 30 00:01:41,067 --> 00:01:43,947 Speaker 3: the old floor and the old space nose and things 31 00:01:44,027 --> 00:01:47,987 Speaker 3: like that, So they are experimenting. It doesn't take away 32 00:01:48,067 --> 00:01:50,307 Speaker 3: the fact that he's seventeenth or something on the grid 33 00:01:50,307 --> 00:01:52,587 Speaker 3: and everybody was expecting him or not on the grid 34 00:01:52,627 --> 00:01:55,907 Speaker 3: so in practice and everybody was expecting him to be, 35 00:01:56,187 --> 00:01:58,347 Speaker 3: you know, right up there with Max and all the 36 00:01:58,387 --> 00:02:00,667 Speaker 3: rest of the stuff. But for goodness sake, it's give 37 00:02:00,747 --> 00:02:04,707 Speaker 3: the blood the chance. He's never been to Melbourne as 38 00:02:04,747 --> 00:02:08,747 Speaker 3: a racing driver before, never been in a session as 39 00:02:08,867 --> 00:02:13,347 Speaker 3: intense as this before. He's in a situation now where 40 00:02:13,387 --> 00:02:16,747 Speaker 3: people are going to comment if he doesn't shave that day, 41 00:02:17,227 --> 00:02:19,907 Speaker 3: or if he seems to have one eye shorter than 42 00:02:19,947 --> 00:02:22,867 Speaker 3: the other or something like that. He is under intense 43 00:02:23,107 --> 00:02:25,787 Speaker 3: scrutiny and it's got to I don't know how strong 44 00:02:25,827 --> 00:02:27,347 Speaker 3: he is. It's going to take a little bit of 45 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:29,227 Speaker 3: time to get your bum in the seat and to 46 00:02:29,267 --> 00:02:32,747 Speaker 3: get used to all that stuff going on around you. So, yes, 47 00:02:32,827 --> 00:02:35,907 Speaker 3: he was slow. I don't put it down to anything 48 00:02:36,067 --> 00:02:40,867 Speaker 3: other than fuel loads, trying to get the car to 49 00:02:40,907 --> 00:02:43,667 Speaker 3: work and all the other stuff, unfamiliarity with the track 50 00:02:44,347 --> 00:02:47,027 Speaker 3: and that sort of thing. So if he's over the 51 00:02:47,027 --> 00:02:49,547 Speaker 3: rest of the weekend time, but he's he's just got 52 00:02:49,587 --> 00:02:52,867 Speaker 3: to start learning every single second he gets to get 53 00:02:52,867 --> 00:02:54,187 Speaker 3: that car fast. As simple as that. 54 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:57,107 Speaker 2: You want to come back to talking about the car 55 00:02:57,187 --> 00:02:58,947 Speaker 2: and the speed of it. Leam's driving in a moment. 56 00:02:58,987 --> 00:03:00,587 Speaker 2: But something you said there is really interesting to me, 57 00:03:00,587 --> 00:03:04,147 Speaker 2: and that is the intense spotlight that goes on to 58 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:06,707 Speaker 2: him and all of these drivers when they reach, you know, 59 00:03:06,867 --> 00:03:09,867 Speaker 2: the elite level of being a full time Formula One driver. 60 00:03:09,907 --> 00:03:12,027 Speaker 2: You've known Liam for a long time. How do your 61 00:03:12,027 --> 00:03:13,427 Speaker 2: assist his ability to cope with that? 62 00:03:14,707 --> 00:03:19,067 Speaker 3: Oh? He has the ability, no doubt. He's a pretty 63 00:03:19,107 --> 00:03:23,587 Speaker 3: determined young man. He's a fairly brusque young man on 64 00:03:23,627 --> 00:03:26,227 Speaker 3: the track, as was proven by his performances last year 65 00:03:26,267 --> 00:03:28,827 Speaker 3: when he was getting in all sorts of clashes. But 66 00:03:28,907 --> 00:03:32,347 Speaker 3: he is being looked at a little example yesterday from 67 00:03:32,387 --> 00:03:34,347 Speaker 3: people who should know better. He was coming out of 68 00:03:34,347 --> 00:03:36,867 Speaker 3: the bits. I don't know if anybody saw this. As 69 00:03:36,987 --> 00:03:40,547 Speaker 3: cars do, they leave quite a lot of space between 70 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:42,707 Speaker 3: them and the car in front, so they can get 71 00:03:42,827 --> 00:03:46,787 Speaker 3: some space to not be in the set stream and 72 00:03:46,787 --> 00:03:48,187 Speaker 3: all that sort of thing in the car in front. 73 00:03:48,227 --> 00:03:51,067 Speaker 3: So he was slow coming down, following MaTx with staff 74 00:03:51,107 --> 00:03:53,947 Speaker 3: and out of the pits, and he was slow, slow, slow. 75 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:56,427 Speaker 3: On the right hand side, there was a little line 76 00:03:56,467 --> 00:03:59,947 Speaker 3: of cars led by Lando Norris. Liiam Lawson was in 77 00:03:59,987 --> 00:04:02,067 Speaker 3: the and he's not allowed to stop in the pit lane. 78 00:04:02,107 --> 00:04:03,987 Speaker 3: By the way, he was going as slow as he 79 00:04:04,027 --> 00:04:06,747 Speaker 3: possibly could to make the gap. He went past to 80 00:04:06,827 --> 00:04:10,467 Speaker 3: Lando Norris, and then Lando decided to launch his car 81 00:04:10,547 --> 00:04:16,147 Speaker 3: in the practice start. Immediately immediately the commentators who should 82 00:04:16,187 --> 00:04:20,507 Speaker 3: know better said it was Lando Norris. It was Liam 83 00:04:20,627 --> 00:04:23,547 Speaker 3: Lawson's fault for not giving way to Lando Norris. What's 84 00:04:23,587 --> 00:04:25,307 Speaker 3: he supposed to do. Is he's supposed to part in 85 00:04:25,307 --> 00:04:27,747 Speaker 3: the pit land and be fined. Is he supposed to 86 00:04:27,787 --> 00:04:31,467 Speaker 3: just say after you Lando? No, he's not. So everything 87 00:04:31,547 --> 00:04:35,987 Speaker 3: he's doing is being scrutinized in extreme detail, especially on 88 00:04:35,987 --> 00:04:40,547 Speaker 3: this side of the world, and he's been. I think 89 00:04:40,707 --> 00:04:42,747 Speaker 3: I'm fairly picked on a lot of the time by 90 00:04:43,067 --> 00:04:45,387 Speaker 3: all sorts of people. He's got to learn. He's going 91 00:04:45,427 --> 00:04:48,947 Speaker 3: to learn. He has the ability to learn. But he's 92 00:04:48,947 --> 00:04:51,147 Speaker 3: got a tough job. As everybody has said, he's got 93 00:04:51,147 --> 00:04:52,867 Speaker 3: a tough job. He's just got to get his head 94 00:04:52,867 --> 00:04:53,507 Speaker 3: down and do it. 95 00:04:54,307 --> 00:04:57,187 Speaker 2: If we talk about today and then on to tomorrow, 96 00:04:57,347 --> 00:05:00,427 Speaker 2: Bob can can they make the improvements to the car 97 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:03,387 Speaker 2: today into the way that Liam drives it in time 98 00:05:03,427 --> 00:05:05,587 Speaker 2: for him to qualify in the top half of the 99 00:05:05,627 --> 00:05:06,307 Speaker 2: grid later on too. 100 00:05:08,227 --> 00:05:10,987 Speaker 3: Historically Red Bull have been able to do that. Historically 101 00:05:11,027 --> 00:05:14,307 Speaker 3: over the last couple of three or four seasons, a 102 00:05:14,387 --> 00:05:18,067 Speaker 3: first day of practice on a Friday has not necessarily 103 00:05:18,107 --> 00:05:20,907 Speaker 3: been the best day for them. Yet they have the 104 00:05:20,947 --> 00:05:24,827 Speaker 3: ability or have had the ability to have the whether 105 00:05:24,947 --> 00:05:27,827 Speaker 3: drivers are doing the simulation work, and many times, of 106 00:05:27,867 --> 00:05:30,107 Speaker 3: course in the last couple of three years that was 107 00:05:30,147 --> 00:05:33,987 Speaker 3: Liam doing that back in the factory. So they have 108 00:05:34,067 --> 00:05:36,907 Speaker 3: the ability to change that car. They have the engineering 109 00:05:36,987 --> 00:05:40,627 Speaker 3: nous to do it. But clearly that car is not 110 00:05:40,827 --> 00:05:42,787 Speaker 3: as good as it was last year. In the testing 111 00:05:42,787 --> 00:05:46,307 Speaker 3: at Bahrain, they had a lot of trouble with the 112 00:05:46,307 --> 00:05:48,627 Speaker 3: car Max with Staffin was not happy with the car. 113 00:05:48,827 --> 00:05:51,587 Speaker 3: He is still not happy with the car. You can 114 00:05:51,667 --> 00:05:54,187 Speaker 3: see that they're not happy with the car because of 115 00:05:54,227 --> 00:05:57,067 Speaker 3: all the work that was going on in the practice 116 00:05:57,267 --> 00:06:00,067 Speaker 3: in Max with Staffin's garage, with the car up on 117 00:06:00,107 --> 00:06:02,267 Speaker 3: the stands during the one hour of practice. In the 118 00:06:02,307 --> 00:06:08,227 Speaker 3: second hours, that's something that doesn't normally happen. It's usually twigs, 119 00:06:08,387 --> 00:06:11,947 Speaker 3: it's not a wholesale change of suspension, which they were doing. 120 00:06:13,067 --> 00:06:16,507 Speaker 3: Plus the fact you don't know just how much fuel 121 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:22,267 Speaker 3: and stuff everybody's using. The V card that and Liam 122 00:06:22,267 --> 00:06:25,267 Speaker 3: Wilson got out of last year, which is now being 123 00:06:25,347 --> 00:06:28,467 Speaker 3: driven by Isaac Hadja. He was running on very very 124 00:06:28,507 --> 00:06:32,307 Speaker 3: low fuel. They've admitted that, whereas Liam may have had 125 00:06:32,587 --> 00:06:35,387 Speaker 3: three quarters race fuel or something. We don't know that. 126 00:06:35,987 --> 00:06:41,587 Speaker 3: So really, this afternoon or this evening and qualifying, that's 127 00:06:41,627 --> 00:06:44,747 Speaker 3: the time when you really got to look at how 128 00:06:44,747 --> 00:06:47,587 Speaker 3: things are shaping up. I don't think he's going to 129 00:06:47,627 --> 00:06:54,027 Speaker 3: be that much faster than he was today, well yesterday, sorry, 130 00:06:54,267 --> 00:06:56,107 Speaker 3: but he's just got to get a little bit closer 131 00:06:56,107 --> 00:06:58,467 Speaker 3: to Max, simple as that, and. 132 00:06:58,507 --> 00:07:00,747 Speaker 2: The Red Bull set up Max for Stepan is obviously 133 00:07:00,907 --> 00:07:03,307 Speaker 2: the number one driver in that team. Bob. So how 134 00:07:03,387 --> 00:07:07,227 Speaker 2: much resource will Liam be getting given that he is 135 00:07:08,227 --> 00:07:10,387 Speaker 2: very much number two to Max for Stepan. 136 00:07:11,987 --> 00:07:15,387 Speaker 3: He will be. He is the number two driver and 137 00:07:15,427 --> 00:07:18,987 Speaker 3: he is there to support Maxistappen. Therefore, if Maxistappen thinks 138 00:07:19,027 --> 00:07:21,947 Speaker 3: it's better that they put them the steering wheel behind 139 00:07:21,987 --> 00:07:25,027 Speaker 3: his head so he can drive backwards, it will be done. 140 00:07:25,107 --> 00:07:27,467 Speaker 3: If he thinks can drive faster that way, and then 141 00:07:27,507 --> 00:07:30,827 Speaker 3: it will be done on Liam's car. So regardless in 142 00:07:30,907 --> 00:07:36,107 Speaker 3: many ways of Liam having his own team there, they 143 00:07:36,187 --> 00:07:39,707 Speaker 3: will sacrifice everything to get Max Forstappen to be the 144 00:07:39,787 --> 00:07:42,787 Speaker 3: fastest or to be better, and the second driver will 145 00:07:42,827 --> 00:07:45,987 Speaker 3: always have to follow the ethos that Max has put 146 00:07:46,027 --> 00:07:49,747 Speaker 3: on the car, except for fine tweaks to suit the driver. 147 00:07:50,147 --> 00:07:53,547 Speaker 3: Now this is something once again that Liam must get 148 00:07:53,587 --> 00:07:56,187 Speaker 3: his mum in the seat on and assert some authority 149 00:07:56,547 --> 00:08:00,027 Speaker 3: over his own car, saying I don't like it over 150 00:08:00,027 --> 00:08:02,267 Speaker 3: steering like this? Can we do just stop it? I 151 00:08:02,267 --> 00:08:04,907 Speaker 3: don't like it under steering? Can we do something to 152 00:08:04,947 --> 00:08:07,507 Speaker 3: stop it. The more more he can prove that he 153 00:08:07,627 --> 00:08:11,827 Speaker 3: can tune his car to his way of driving and 154 00:08:12,067 --> 00:08:14,787 Speaker 3: show that he is faster doing that, the more the 155 00:08:15,227 --> 00:08:17,947 Speaker 3: garage will turn onto his side as well, and to 156 00:08:18,027 --> 00:08:20,627 Speaker 3: help him go faster. They don't want him to go 157 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:23,387 Speaker 3: slow by any means at all, but they do want 158 00:08:23,427 --> 00:08:26,787 Speaker 3: Max to go faster, and Liam to a certain extent 159 00:08:26,827 --> 00:08:29,867 Speaker 3: will have to follow follow the path dridden by Max. 160 00:08:31,187 --> 00:08:33,587 Speaker 3: But by the same token, if he can make his 161 00:08:33,627 --> 00:08:35,147 Speaker 3: own pass, they will support that. 162 00:08:36,387 --> 00:08:38,467 Speaker 2: Such an interesting thing you said as well before, Bob, 163 00:08:38,507 --> 00:08:41,667 Speaker 2: about yesterday being day one of seventy two, I mean 164 00:08:41,707 --> 00:08:44,627 Speaker 2: twenty four Grand Prix before we finished the season in 165 00:08:44,667 --> 00:08:48,267 Speaker 2: early December in Abu Dhabi. How do they balance it though? 166 00:08:48,307 --> 00:08:50,987 Speaker 2: You know that because all sports fans, and I'm sure 167 00:08:51,027 --> 00:08:54,707 Speaker 2: all sports teams want one is instant results. Our teams 168 00:08:54,747 --> 00:08:58,067 Speaker 2: like red ball, you know, are they known for being 169 00:08:58,147 --> 00:09:01,147 Speaker 2: patient or or if we look back to last year, 170 00:09:01,187 --> 00:09:02,587 Speaker 2: are they not so much known for that. 171 00:09:03,467 --> 00:09:05,627 Speaker 3: No, they're not known from being patient at all. And 172 00:09:06,947 --> 00:09:09,067 Speaker 3: I don't like doing it, but I was reading some 173 00:09:09,187 --> 00:09:12,147 Speaker 3: social media. There's about eighty percent of the people saying, 174 00:09:12,187 --> 00:09:14,227 Speaker 3: told you so, get Lawson out of there, et cetera, 175 00:09:14,267 --> 00:09:17,787 Speaker 3: et cetera. It's absolutely I was going to use a 176 00:09:17,827 --> 00:09:22,147 Speaker 3: word that rubbish. I'll say, I'm some rubbish for that 177 00:09:22,187 --> 00:09:23,987 Speaker 3: sort of thing. He's they're going to give him a 178 00:09:23,987 --> 00:09:26,787 Speaker 3: half a season minimum, and I do not doubt that 179 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:29,307 Speaker 3: in the first two or three races as they come up, 180 00:09:29,587 --> 00:09:31,907 Speaker 3: that Liam is going to improve his position. I do 181 00:09:31,987 --> 00:09:35,467 Speaker 3: not doubt they employed him because they know him. He's 182 00:09:35,507 --> 00:09:38,667 Speaker 3: been there longer than almost any other driver apart from 183 00:09:38,667 --> 00:09:41,467 Speaker 3: Max with staff and in that system, in that Red 184 00:09:41,507 --> 00:09:45,227 Speaker 3: Bull system, so they know exactly what he's capable of. 185 00:09:45,267 --> 00:09:47,347 Speaker 3: They didn't choose him just because he looks good and 186 00:09:47,347 --> 00:09:50,667 Speaker 3: it looks like a male model or whatever. He is 187 00:09:50,827 --> 00:09:54,027 Speaker 3: chosen because they know he can do the job ultimately, 188 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:56,587 Speaker 3: and he's got to stick with that. Mentally, he's got 189 00:09:56,627 --> 00:09:59,547 Speaker 3: to stick with the fact that they preferred him over 190 00:09:59,627 --> 00:10:03,107 Speaker 3: anybody else to be mex with Staffan's partner this year. 191 00:10:03,547 --> 00:10:08,347 Speaker 3: So stick with it. And you know, he's simply got 192 00:10:08,427 --> 00:10:11,387 Speaker 3: to work hard and for the team to work hard 193 00:10:11,427 --> 00:10:13,827 Speaker 3: to get the cars faster. He just needs to be 194 00:10:13,907 --> 00:10:18,627 Speaker 3: closer to Max in pretty much all conditions. As Helmet 195 00:10:18,707 --> 00:10:21,667 Speaker 3: Marcos said, three tenths of a second, they'll allow him, 196 00:10:21,947 --> 00:10:26,707 Speaker 3: and that's that's about it. Okay, yesterday he was obviously 197 00:10:26,867 --> 00:10:30,467 Speaker 3: five tenths of the second, five sixpence of a second. Piney, 198 00:10:30,547 --> 00:10:32,787 Speaker 3: that's not an awful lot, is it. But the problem 199 00:10:32,907 --> 00:10:36,667 Speaker 3: is in these days of Formula one, you can go 200 00:10:36,747 --> 00:10:41,587 Speaker 3: from seventh to seventeenth in just five tenths of a second. 201 00:10:41,907 --> 00:10:44,667 Speaker 3: Half a second, not a lot. So he's he's just 202 00:10:44,667 --> 00:10:46,587 Speaker 3: got to get better and better. What he doesn't have 203 00:10:46,627 --> 00:10:48,627 Speaker 3: to do is what Oliver Behman did yesterday and the 204 00:10:48,627 --> 00:10:51,867 Speaker 3: throat thing in the wall that is, although they him 205 00:10:51,867 --> 00:10:56,147 Speaker 3: did kiss the wall in practice, just just a light touch, 206 00:10:56,307 --> 00:11:00,827 Speaker 3: just the notes there. So yeah, he's he's on a 207 00:11:00,867 --> 00:11:05,067 Speaker 3: trajectory and this is this is you know, like base 208 00:11:05,427 --> 00:11:08,147 Speaker 3: what do they call it, ever is based one or 209 00:11:08,147 --> 00:11:11,187 Speaker 3: something like that. That's what he worries out of the moment. 210 00:11:11,667 --> 00:11:14,627 Speaker 2: That's a great filter to look at it through zooming 211 00:11:14,627 --> 00:11:19,267 Speaker 2: out of it. McLaren, Norris and Pastree, Ferrari, Leclair and 212 00:11:19,347 --> 00:11:23,187 Speaker 2: Hamilton as McLaren. The faster is that the faster car McLaren. 213 00:11:23,987 --> 00:11:26,067 Speaker 3: It has been proven to be the faster car over 214 00:11:26,067 --> 00:11:29,427 Speaker 3: a race distance at the moment. Leclaire and the Ferrari 215 00:11:29,507 --> 00:11:32,027 Speaker 3: have come up with a faster time as of yesterday, 216 00:11:33,307 --> 00:11:36,627 Speaker 3: and it may well be a faster car on that track. 217 00:11:37,467 --> 00:11:39,307 Speaker 3: The Ferrari does have a good record on that track. 218 00:11:39,347 --> 00:11:43,187 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that, but I think it's all 219 00:11:43,227 --> 00:11:44,987 Speaker 3: going to sort out as we go along. I mean, 220 00:11:45,067 --> 00:11:49,787 Speaker 3: yesterday was a little bit screwed up. I think in times, 221 00:11:49,827 --> 00:11:51,787 Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to see the Times yesterday 222 00:11:52,067 --> 00:11:56,467 Speaker 3: or the order of the Times yesterday translated into qualifying today. Certainly, 223 00:11:56,507 --> 00:11:59,227 Speaker 3: Lucle it's going to be at the top Norris's Pastree 224 00:11:59,427 --> 00:12:04,547 Speaker 3: most likely, and you could have got to say probably 225 00:12:04,627 --> 00:12:06,987 Speaker 3: Hamilton's going to be there as well. But the rest 226 00:12:07,027 --> 00:12:09,987 Speaker 3: of it is all mixed up. Different fuels, different car engines, 227 00:12:10,027 --> 00:12:15,267 Speaker 3: different powers set ups, different power availability. All things will 228 00:12:15,307 --> 00:12:19,027 Speaker 3: be will be proven basically in the first qualifying of 229 00:12:19,067 --> 00:12:22,987 Speaker 3: the year. Essentially, we're still in the testing phase from 230 00:12:23,187 --> 00:12:26,227 Speaker 3: the Bahrain test, where each driver got about a day 231 00:12:26,307 --> 00:12:28,747 Speaker 3: day and a half, including Liam in the car. And 232 00:12:28,787 --> 00:12:33,587 Speaker 3: Liam's day was disrupted enormously by rain, so he hasn't 233 00:12:33,627 --> 00:12:36,027 Speaker 3: had time in the car. Not many of these drivers have. 234 00:12:36,867 --> 00:12:40,947 Speaker 3: And the really is the old saying the rubber hits 235 00:12:40,987 --> 00:12:43,827 Speaker 3: the road this afternoon in qualifying too. 236 00:12:45,027 --> 00:12:47,067 Speaker 2: Bob, thanks so much for your time. I always learned 237 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:50,387 Speaker 2: plenty listening to you. Thanks for taking our call, and 238 00:12:50,747 --> 00:12:52,507 Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of the weekend. We'll catch up again, 239 00:12:52,587 --> 00:12:55,947 Speaker 2: so thank you, Bony, my pleasure, all the best mate, 240 00:12:55,947 --> 00:12:59,027 Speaker 2: Bobby Murray there gee he talks good scenes, doesn't he. 241 00:12:59,547 --> 00:13:03,107 Speaker 2: Like I said, I just always learned so much about 242 00:13:03,187 --> 00:13:05,387 Speaker 2: motor sport and about the intricacies of it from listening 243 00:13:05,427 --> 00:13:06,787 Speaker 2: to Bob McMurray. 244 00:13:06,827 --> 00:13:10,267 Speaker 1: Lack for more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen 245 00:13:10,347 --> 00:13:13,587 Speaker 1: live to News Talk Set B Weekends from midday, or 246 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:15,587 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.