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Speaker 2: Six The Friday Sports Ddle with New Zealand Suburby's international

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Speaker 3: Kind on the halfway line and New Zealand has won

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Speaker 3: the match. Mission accomplished. New Zealand finer footballing hours, close

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Speaker 3: spots stayler heads South Africa twenty.

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Speaker 1: Eight years old and look you here, that's Spanish.

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Speaker 3: Honestly he'stility all lunch back to football's biggest stage.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand have made the impossible possible.

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Speaker 3: It's finished.

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Speaker 1: Italy won New Zealand one. This is the sports title

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Speaker 1: for your Friday evening. Abbie Wilson one, New Sports Edien

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Speaker 1: with us tonight. Hi Abby, Hello, great to have you

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Speaker 1: on the show. And Jim Kay's producer of the Breakdown

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Speaker 1: at Sky TV, is with us too. Hey, Jim Cado Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Eb's nice to have you back mate, Thank you,

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Speaker 3: Jim Hello Hello.

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Speaker 1: Now Ricky has been quite diplomatic there, but the tob

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Speaker 1: has Fiji. I think forty one dollars to win, so

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Speaker 1: it should be easy enough abbe for us, said the

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Speaker 1: cake tin Ah.

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Speaker 4: Yes he was being very diplomatic. I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: there are fifty nine ranking positions between the two teams.

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Speaker 4: So New Zealand undoubtedly should win, although as we know

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Speaker 4: in football, every now and then there's an outrageous upset.

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Speaker 4: But if you sort of look at the probability, New

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Speaker 4: Zealand should stroll into the final on Monday and really

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Speaker 4: should stroll into the World Cup, which is it's great,

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Speaker 4: it's great for Oceania. Will we see the same scenes

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Speaker 4: we saw if we call a high that we saw

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and nine for that great game in

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Speaker 4: bar Rang Maybe not, because maybe it has taken a

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Speaker 4: little bit of the luster off the accomplishment, but the

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Speaker 4: result is the same and you still get to go

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Speaker 4: to a World Cup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim, what's your take on that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I know that you were sort of hypothesizing is

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Speaker 3: it too easy? I was sort of thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: Who cares? You know, like, if it gets New Zealand

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Speaker 3: to the World Cup, then then fantastic. Ocean it's a

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Speaker 3: big area. Yes, it's not as strong as some of

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Speaker 3: the other football in areas, but you know, you can

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Speaker 3: only go the route that you can go, and if

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Speaker 3: it's an easy route, then fantastic. And if we get

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Speaker 3: the All Whites playing on a World Cup stage for

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Speaker 3: only the third time, then that's fantastic as well. So

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Speaker 3: I sort of look at and go, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: if it's yeah, as I say, if it's easy, great,

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Speaker 3: you know, the result is that the All Whites will

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Speaker 3: go to the World Cup. Surely that's what we all

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Speaker 3: want is as sports fans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't self fledge late and try and take a

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Speaker 1: hard road when there's an easy one.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, you know, And there's two parts we

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Speaker 3: can go here, a really hard one or an easy one.

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Speaker 4: But also there are disadvantages to playing from down in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand. You know, we're disadvantage with where we are,

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Speaker 4: how far away we are from teams. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: nice if there is an advance to our isolation and things.

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Speaker 4: It's almost about time, exactly.

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Speaker 3: The journey of isolation has worked against the Yellow sports

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Speaker 3: sense for a very long time. So this time if

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Speaker 3: it works in our favor, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Guys, you've really turned my negative attitude about this right around.

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Speaker 1: Well done. Abbie Wilson and Jim Kay's on the Sports Huddle.

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Speaker 2: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand South Ofy's International

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Speaker 2: real Zy, the ones with local and global reach.

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Speaker 1: Abbie Wilson and Jim Kay's on the sports Huddle tonight,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back guys now. Last Friday, I was told unequivocally

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Speaker 1: on this huddle that the Warriors would lose. And I

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Speaker 1: know it wasn't you two that said this, but that

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Speaker 1: the Warriors would lose. And then I last minute bord

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Speaker 1: a ticket, went to the game, fantastic fun and they won.

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Speaker 1: So what happens Jim this weekend?

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Speaker 3: That's a great thing about sport, Ryan, isn't it? Um?

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Speaker 3: Who would know? Especially with the Warriors. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: say that the Warriors went again at home, home ground, advantage,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pick a Warrior's win. But truly, I

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Speaker 3: don't think anyone really knows because they're a little bit

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Speaker 3: I think they had been for about a year or so,

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Speaker 3: so you know, you could be Are you going again tonight?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not going tonight. I've got other things on.

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Speaker 1: But I would actually go back for Abbie. I would

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Speaker 1: actually go back for the fireworks at halftime. That was

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Speaker 1: fairwelling Tohu Harris. Honestly, it was bigger than Matadiki, bigger

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Speaker 1: I thought, how big is their marketing budgets?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure they'd like to know that the only

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Speaker 4: reason you want to go back is the fireworks rather

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Speaker 4: than on the field fireworks. But I live on the

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Speaker 1: They certainly were. So who do you think?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 1: Is are they on form and they out of form?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the condition games?

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Speaker 3: Wh Who would know? After two games?

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Speaker 4: I think Jim's right, like this is the hard thing

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Speaker 4: with the Warriors. I would not beat my house on it.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say that they when they're great, they're great

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Speaker 4: when they're awful, like in Vegas, they're awful. And so

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Speaker 4: we're early in the season. I usually temporary expectations around

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Speaker 4: the Warriors, so I'd love to see them win. But

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Speaker 4: I think they haven't beaten the Roosters in their past

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen or some awful stats. So those stats would

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Speaker 4: say that you know it's going to be tricky. And

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Speaker 4: the Rooster's beat Penrith last week with an impressive win,

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Speaker 4: so they'll be riding high off that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, Aby, thank you. Now let's go to the

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Speaker 1: Western Springs. What do we think should happen with it next?

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Speaker 1: Jim Ah, that's.

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Speaker 3: Look, where do we begin here? Ryan? I mean, of

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Speaker 3: the three that seemed to me and put forward in

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Speaker 3: What I do know is that we have some dogs

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Speaker 3: four to twenty five thousand for sport. There's a great

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Speaker 3: Greater minds and mind can work that out. But somewhere

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Speaker 3: someone can say this is what we're going to do,

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Speaker 3: this is the plan, and this is how we're going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think you've hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 1: That has to be a decision that it's strategic decision

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Speaker 1: that's not just a one off about Western Springs and

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Speaker 1: what do we do? You know, it has to be

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Speaker 1: it has to be more what is the strategy and

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Speaker 1: how does this fit into it?

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Speaker 3: Abe? How did it work for the city? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Did a story years ago though, when they were looking

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Speaker 4: you get Taylor Swift, But in practicality, for three hundred

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Speaker 4: often than it's not. It doesn't take up as much room,

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Speaker 4: And so I actually I see Jim's point about when

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Speaker 4: I don't think Western Springs is a solution. I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that and then just fly to Sydney

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Speaker 3: That's the other options that we're depriving ourselves of, these

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Speaker 3: you know, we think small all the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess against the problem bigger vision. Do we

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Speaker 3: Do you really think she wouldn't sell out at a

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Speaker 3: putting it on. They've turned up four nights in a row.

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Speaker 4: But the rest of the time, you know, you put

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Speaker 4: a super rugby team there and they get five thousand

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Speaker 3: True, the twelve thousand seat stadiums there, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: Will How many stadiums are we going to have in Gymstown.

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Speaker 3: We've got's money, you two, We've got three average ones.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, I'd have two. One is a smaller,

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Speaker 3: need to play Auckland football there, Blues there, Warriors there,

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Speaker 3: there's no other place to go. You've all got to

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Speaker 3: go to the stadium. Well, you know, yeah, and maximize

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Speaker 3: the usage of it. At the moment, we have three

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Speaker 4: Do you think the all Lax would sell out a

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Speaker 3: Not at the moment.

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Speaker 4: AB. So we're building for Taylor and Taylor Alt.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, it was a good night. I went there for

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Speaker 3: that too.

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Speaker 1: That was a good night, always a good night at

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Speaker 1: six sixty. Hey, very quickly before we go, I just

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Speaker 1: want to get your quick take on Razor and this

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Speaker 1: whole story this week about him changing his mind on

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Speaker 1: on the All Blacks eligibility thing. And then you have

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Speaker 1: the the players you command and say, oh no, they

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Speaker 1: were sort of on the same page the whole time.

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Speaker 1: They just didn't really realize it. I mean, what, Jim,

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Speaker 1: what happened?

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Speaker 3: The machine said to Taylor to raiser, not Taylor to

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Speaker 3: raise a You need to conform. Look, the simple thing

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Speaker 3: is the best thing that happens in New Zealand is

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Speaker 3: that you have to be in New Zealand to play

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Speaker 3: for the All Blacks. If that changes, this country will

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Speaker 3: empty of decent players. They'll all go to Japan, they'll

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Speaker 3: all go to France, and all go somewhere else and

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Speaker 3: earn lots more money, and we will be looking at

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Speaker 3: a super rugby competition that is not super. So New

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Speaker 3: Zealand rugby needs to hold on for as long as

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Speaker 3: possible to the fact that you have to be in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand to play for the All Blacks because as

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Speaker 3: soon as they change that, honestly, this country will empty.

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Speaker 3: All the good players will earn lots of money going

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Speaker 3: elsewhere and just play for the All Blacks out of

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Speaker 3: Toyota or out of Toulon or out of Leicester. It's

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Speaker 3: as simple as that. Ryan, You change that law and

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Speaker 3: everyone will disappear because there's so much more money. Over says,

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Speaker 3: the only thing keeping rugby players in his yellow at

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Speaker 3: the elite level is the lure of the All Blacks jersey.

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Speaker 3: If that changes, goodbye to all of our decent players.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we have to leave it there. I'm afraid. Abby,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming on, and Jim appreciate

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Speaker 1: you both. Actually, just before we go, Lizzie has said

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Speaker 1: stuff Taylor Swift. She's a billionaire, why should she get

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Speaker 1: concerts in Auckland, Abby Wilson Jim Kay's Sports Huddle Friday Night.

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