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Speaker 1: In the Brady UK correspondence with us Hello, Inda.

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Speaker 2: Hey Heather. Good to speak to you again, right, so

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Speaker 2: are you.

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Speaker 1: I looked at this has a story and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's lovely. He got to see his dead for an hour.

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Speaker 1: You looked at it and went his dad gave him

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Speaker 1: less than an hour.

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Speaker 2: What's going after nineteen months? After nineteen months, forty five

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Speaker 2: minutes and a cup of tea after nineteen months. Ex Look,

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Speaker 2: you can see Charles's thinking And I think the people

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Speaker 2: who'll be really annoyed about this meeting taking place at

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Speaker 2: all are the insiders behind the scenes that who Harry's

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Speaker 2: mother referred to as the men in gray suits, because

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Speaker 2: they will now be worrying that there will be a

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Speaker 2: podcast next week or Oprah Winfrey will suddenly pop around

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Speaker 2: with a TV crew of twenty and every word that

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Speaker 2: was said inside the Palace yesterday evenings Clarence House yesterday

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Speaker 2: evening will be made public. But I guess it's the

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Speaker 2: beginning of healing between father and son. But interestingly, absolutely

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Speaker 2: no sign of William this week on Harry's radar.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean, this will be the test,

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Speaker 1: won't it, Because Harry has to prove himself, so they

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Speaker 1: will tell him things. They'll have conversations and see whether

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Speaker 1: it comes out or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, if you wanted to be really twisted,

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Speaker 2: you could have told him an awful lot of lies

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Speaker 2: and waited for it to hit the media. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's just a fascinating dynamic. But I think he is

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Speaker 2: moving in the direction of travel, that he wants to

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Speaker 2: spend more time in the UK. Major donation to knife

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Speaker 2: crime charity in Nottingham the other day two million dollars.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about being here more often. But where is

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Speaker 2: Megan in all of this? Because I don't think she

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Speaker 2: ever I don't think she ever wants to look at

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Speaker 2: Europe again, unless it's with some A list celebs in

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Speaker 2: the Malfi and the coast in Italy.

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Speaker 1: What are you suggesting, Hinda.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just think long term, perhaps young

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Speaker 2: Loll van Doll it's cracked up to be.

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Speaker 1: Are you just asking some questions?

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Speaker 2: Are you in my head? In my head hypothetically?

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Speaker 1: Listen, we've lived a life, haven't we. We know how

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Speaker 1: this thing often goes. Now, talk to me about Peter Mandelssohn.

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Speaker 1: What are the chances that he gets the sick.

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Speaker 2: So Starmar sticking by like the wind next week is big.

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Speaker 2: The timing of this is crucial. So for anyone who

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Speaker 2: hasn't followed, it's Peter Mandelsson is Labor Royalty. He was

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Speaker 2: the architect of New Labor. He helped Tony Blair could

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Speaker 2: not have happened without Mandelssohn. So he's been embedded in

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Speaker 2: the UK political establishment for decades. Turns out he was

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Speaker 2: very very good pals with Jeffrey Epstein. Now pictures have

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Speaker 2: appeared of Mandelssohn lounging in a dressing gown, chatting and

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Speaker 2: having breakfast with Epstein on the island, all looking very

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Speaker 2: very cozy. Now I should point out that there is

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Speaker 2: absolutely no suggestion Mandelson has done anything wrong or was

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Speaker 2: involved in criminality that we know Epstein was. And Mandelson

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Speaker 2: is a gay man, so he would have no interest

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Speaker 2: in what Epstein was doing with girls categorically. But I

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Speaker 2: think the question marks being raised are over his judgment,

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Speaker 2: you know, being around this guy. Mandelsson has come out

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Speaker 2: and said this week that he he deeply regrets ever

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Speaker 2: meeting Jeffrey Epstein and that there's more to come. He's

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Speaker 2: gone on a podcast yesterday and he said, actually embarrassingly,

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Speaker 2: there would be more information to come. So it was

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Speaker 2: clear that he was very very close to Epstein. This

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Speaker 2: is causing Starmer a problem. And into the mixed. Next

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Speaker 2: week we have Donald Trump coming and Mandlsson is the

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Speaker 2: UK's ambassador to America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well Mandlelsson is s Matt and he knows how

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Speaker 1: PR works and he knows it's drip trip trip right,

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Speaker 1: so he will be aware that if he is being

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Speaker 1: taken down that there will be a constant leaking of information, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: So I.

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Speaker 2: Think Sunday will be the key day in all of this,

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Speaker 2: the Sunday newspapers, if they've got a lot more and

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Speaker 2: I think with Mandleson and Epstein it will be more

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Speaker 2: business or more who did Epstein want him to lean

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Speaker 2: on or introduce him to? You know, I just think

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Speaker 2: Tony Blair's name might get brought into the mix. It's

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Speaker 2: just very embarrassing for everyone that mandelson but was duped.

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Speaker 2: But like he says, this was a very charismatic criminal

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Speaker 2: who fooled everyone. But Mandleson is as sharp as attack

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Speaker 2: and as sharp as he is today. Thirty years ago

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Speaker 2: he was even Sharper, So I'm a bit surprised.

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Speaker 1: Fare enough, Hey tell me quickly what the award is

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Speaker 1: That Jeremy Clarkson's got.

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Speaker 2: National Television Awards, so he won Best Factual Program last night.

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Speaker 2: And the standard of TV in the UK is very,

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Speaker 2: very tough, so Clarkson turned up. Clarkson's Farm won and

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Speaker 2: it won big and all the characters were there with him.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Cooper, the young Oxfordshire farmer who's turned into an

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Speaker 2: agricultural superstar. He was there, Clarkson's partner Lisa Charlie, cheerful

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Speaker 2: Charlie who always breaks the bad news about the realities

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Speaker 2: of farming and finance to Jeremy, and he was very

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Speaker 2: very funny. Clarkson, I have to hand it to him.

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Speaker 2: He has done more for farming in the UK and anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I would say, remember because having spent childhood summers on

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Speaker 2: my grandparents dairy farm in Ireland, I've seen how hard

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Speaker 2: it is to make a living out of the land

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Speaker 2: and Tackson just shows you that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah too right, and it always good to talk to

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Speaker 1: you mate. We'll talk to you next week. Indo Brady,

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Speaker 1: UK correspondent.

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