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Speaker 1: The beer is still to be poured for another day.

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Speaker 1: Brewers Garage Project have stepped into, say Fortune Favors from closure,

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Speaker 1: Fortune Favors or a forty five percent drop in revenue,

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Speaker 1: costs were up and awards don't pay the bill, so

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Speaker 1: it was over until it wasn't. Pet Llsbie is the

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Speaker 1: founder of Garage Project and as with there's Pete morning.

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Speaker 2: Oh what I do know, how am Ike?

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Speaker 1: Very well? Indeed, the state of craft beer generally as

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Speaker 1: you see.

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Speaker 2: It is what, Oh, it's been tough. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: just shows. I mean, Fortune Favors did an incredible job

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Speaker 2: setting up like a really cool little venue in the

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Speaker 2: heart of Wellington. You couldn't find a better place to

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Speaker 2: have a beer on one of the five nice days

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Speaker 2: we have in Wellington. And yet still, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: still this has happened. I think it's just tough. Tough

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Speaker 2: for them, tough for all venues in Wellington.

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Speaker 1: Well, what have you got that they haven't?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: How come you want to step in?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Look, honestly, Mike, it is like I said, they

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Speaker 2: did such an incredible job of that space. It would

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Speaker 2: just be a crime to see everything ripped out of there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what have we got, probably more optimism

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Speaker 2: than maybe we should. But I just feel like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it's worth doubling down.

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Speaker 1: Also, this is an altruistic thing on your This is

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Speaker 1: an emotional decision on your part, opposed to the cold,

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Speaker 1: hard numbers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, we wouldn't do it if we didn't

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Speaker 2: think we could pull it off. I mean there's definitely

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Speaker 2: an emotional element. I mean, I love Wellington, Mic. I

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Speaker 2: think it's really cool. I mean, I know it's a

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Speaker 2: bit shit in places, but I really want to double

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Speaker 2: down on it. I mean, we're doing this, We're partnering

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Speaker 2: with Bill Bailey down at the Pavilion as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's a moment we could turn

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Speaker 2: things around.

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Speaker 1: Well, let us hope. So that's what I'm arguing. I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering if you've got the bank balance to hold it

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Speaker 1: until the until the rising tide lifts everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, I mean obviously this is one of the things,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. I Mean, we have a little tap room

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Speaker 2: up at Atto. I mean it's tiny. It's like it's

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Speaker 2: like a sort of storage cupboard where you can go

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Speaker 2: and have a beer. So We've got obviously a brewery

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Speaker 2: behind us. We sell into supermarkets as well. Hopefully we've

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Speaker 2: got enough stretch to build of buffer and make this work.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, I mean it is on those

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Speaker 2: few sunny days in Wellington. I cannot think of a

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Speaker 2: place I'd rather cert and have a beer than on

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Speaker 2: that deck there. So yeah, it'd be nice to.

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Speaker 1: That youve be thirty seconds on zero or low alcohol beer.

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Speaker 1: Is it going off or not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean it's now our number one selling

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Speaker 2: six pack. Tiny is huge. I'd love to say Mike

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Speaker 2: that we saw it coming and we're very clever, But

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Speaker 2: to be absolutely honest, I mean we just had a

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Speaker 2: stab at making Tiny. It seemed I'd tried a lot

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Speaker 2: of the other non alcohol beers that were available at

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Speaker 2: the time, and I mean, honestly some of them were rubbish.

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Speaker 2: I really felt like we could crack something with a

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Speaker 2: little bit more flavor. So we made Tiny and we

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Speaker 2: just happened to be there at the right moment called

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Speaker 2: that wave. It's interesting where it's come from. Is it

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Speaker 2: just that we all sat at home during COVID and

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Speaker 2: maybe over indulged, and this is us swinging back the

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Speaker 2: other way.

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Speaker 1: Goodba Yeah all right mate. We'll go well with the

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Speaker 1: bar and good luck with the tiny and I love

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Speaker 1: talking about I found myself talking a lot about beer

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Speaker 1: this week, and I find myself enjoying that experience. Pete

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Speaker 1: Gillespie Out of Garage Project.

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