Speaker 1: The Heads Podcast Network.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Slow It Down. I'm your host,
Speaker 2: PJ Harding, and I want this to be a place
Speaker 2: where you can come hang out on the weekend, relax,
Speaker 2: reflect and tap into ways of getting through tough times.
Speaker 2: There's so much noise in the world. We have more
Speaker 2: information than ever and we're all so overstimulated. I want
Speaker 2: to strip it back, get to the core of what
Speaker 2: it means to be a human will discovering beautiful and
Speaker 2: simple ways to stay sane in the chaos. No judgment,
Speaker 2: just a safe and inspiring space where hopefully you can
Speaker 2: catch up with your week's laundry. This week on the show,
Speaker 2: I am joined by someone that a lot of New
Speaker 2: Zealanders will be well familiar with, Matilda Green. She obviously
Speaker 2: came onto the scene in twenty fifteen when she entered
Speaker 2: the first season of New Zealand's The Bachelor, and she
Speaker 2: was one of the lucky ones. She ended up actually
Speaker 2: finding love and going on to marrying Art. The two
Speaker 2: have now got three beautiful children, living semi rurally outside
Speaker 2: of the big smoke of Auckland and Warkworth. And I've
Speaker 2: always really looked up to Matilda. I think she is
Speaker 2: a beautiful role model. She's always been really open about
Speaker 2: prioritizing health and I wanted to tap into her brain
Speaker 2: this week because obviously there's a lot going on. She's
Speaker 2: got three kids, she's working, she's got a podcast, and
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know her survival tips and tricks
Speaker 2: and how you can thrive in the season that she's
Speaker 2: currently in. I hope you enjoy the chat. Matilda Green
Speaker 2: is joining me for Sloight Down. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm so good. I'm sitting here in my lounge. It's
Speaker 1: like a grade rizzly day and got my baby Penny
Speaker 1: beside me, who is just going to be passed over
Speaker 1: to act. But I feel very calm and just so
Speaker 1: excited for this.
Speaker 2: Is calm like a common state of mind for you,
Speaker 2: as a mum of three, podcaster and all around probably
Speaker 2: quite busy woman.
Speaker 1: I think I work really hard to bring the calm,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Like, if I didn't
Speaker 1: put that work in to bring the calm, then it
Speaker 1: would be chaos. So I know that that's a really
Speaker 1: big priority for me, is to set aside time for
Speaker 1: meditation and different bits and bobs, just so I can
Speaker 1: be in a calm space when things are going to shit?
Speaker 1: Can I say shit?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? You can say all of the shits and all
Speaker 2: of the pities, you know.
Speaker 1: When things are really going crazy. Then I know that
Speaker 1: I am not going to get dragged into it emotionally,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll get more into like the rituals and
Speaker 2: things you like to do, son, but paint us the
Speaker 2: picture of your general weake like your week days, in
Speaker 2: your weekend. How does that kind of look at the moment.
Speaker 1: So it's very fluid. I was telling a friend about
Speaker 1: this recently, actually, about how so many of mine and
Speaker 1: arts conversations are around logistics.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can we just shut up so sexy?
Speaker 2: I know, with your logistics?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like what are you doing Monday afternoon? Because
Speaker 1: I'm going to be out and who's gonna look after pennies?
Speaker 1: So it's just very much who's doing what, what's your
Speaker 1: week looking like? What's my week looking like? And who's
Speaker 1: picking up dropping off? That sort of thing. But in
Speaker 1: a general week, So I do like pick up and
Speaker 1: drop off for the older two preschool four days a week,
Speaker 1: and then Penny's home with me, and then all kids
Speaker 1: are home on a Wednesday. So can you hear about
Speaker 1: crushing in the background? So about that?
Speaker 2: Ant's just hey, look, we're thriving in the chaos. This
Speaker 2: is what it's all about. What's he doing?
Speaker 1: He is in the kitchen ap currently.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how stress red nose.
Speaker 1: It's actually this is okay because it's it's a cosmetic
Speaker 1: reg ok so there's no like removing of big parts
Speaker 1: of the house or anything. So it's okay. But yeah,
Speaker 1: poor Art, he's he's he's said it bit on with
Speaker 1: trying to get this done with three kids around. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so that's that's sort of how it looks. And
Speaker 1: on the weekend we prioritize family time and we're going
Speaker 1: to a lot of birthday parties. That's pretty common. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just doing fun stuff. We'd like, go for cool hikes,
Speaker 1: go to the beach, do lots of different things. I
Speaker 1: go to the library during the week with Penny, we
Speaker 1: do wriggle and rhyme. You know, that's really what we're
Speaker 1: doing on a weekly base.
Speaker 2: Are you quite rigid with routine or are you do
Speaker 2: you kind of like organized chaos or do you roll
Speaker 2: the flow? What sort of works best? For you.
Speaker 1: I always thought that I would be a go with
Speaker 1: the flow hype of mum, because that's how I am
Speaker 1: usually as a person. I don't do a lot of planning.
Speaker 1: But I've found it's really hard to thrive in chaos,
Speaker 1: and it makes my life so much easier when I
Speaker 1: have some sort of structure. So I try and plan
Speaker 1: it out on a Sunday how the week's going to look,
Speaker 1: and loosely what we're gonna do, And oh my god,
Speaker 1: it makes such a big difference when I can plan
Speaker 1: out meals. I know what the plan is for the week,
Speaker 1: and but but I don't. I think I've learned after
Speaker 1: having three kids now that you can't be too rigid
Speaker 1: in your plans.
Speaker 2: Because anything could happen constantly.
Speaker 1: Someone's got a fever, or someone's just like I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. So you know, there's there's a
Speaker 1: bit of movement in the in the in the routine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it helps me a lot to have structure.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like I'm somewhat in control.
Speaker 2: I am exactly the same way. I always thought I
Speaker 2: was a happy, go lucky, spontaneous person who didn't need
Speaker 2: no routine, And like now, I'm working with the toddler,
Speaker 2: and I actually I need it. My brain just I
Speaker 2: can't contain my brain otherwise and there's just constant noise
Speaker 2: and chaos, and I just I've realized I have to
Speaker 2: and the meals ahead. Like I never thought i'd be
Speaker 2: a whelproper, you know, I have to have that Sunday.
Speaker 2: The Sunday I need dedicated to feeling like I'm getting
Speaker 2: on top of shirt.
Speaker 1: It's key, it's yeah, And how are you finding me
Speaker 1: back on the tools?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's initially a real emotional juggle, but I feel
Speaker 2: like the more you do it, the more it just
Speaker 2: feels like normal. But God, you feel so out of
Speaker 2: sorts at the beginning, especially when like these briastfeeding in
Speaker 2: the max or whatever. Your brain's just not there. But
Speaker 2: I think the more time you spend at work kind
Speaker 2: of doing your thing, it kind of just becomes more normal.
Speaker 2: But it was definitely a real awkward dance at the beginning,
Speaker 2: and that guilt because my mom is looking after Charlie,
Speaker 2: who's nearly two, like all the time, which which is
Speaker 2: a lot, you know, even though she's like, I love
Speaker 2: it and hurt. My grandmother did that for me it's
Speaker 2: really special, really special, but it's probably not sustainable long term.
Speaker 2: We're going to have to give a danger. But no,
Speaker 2: it is really nice. But but yeah, the mum girl
Speaker 2: and all that definitely look loves to cray on every
Speaker 2: now and then. But I want to talk about your
Speaker 2: rattuels that you were talking about, that are sort of
Speaker 2: your non negotiables that you know, when that chaos does come,
Speaker 2: those waves decide to roll on in. You know that
Speaker 2: it's going to help you at big time. So what
Speaker 2: how does that look for you?
Speaker 1: My meditation practice is really important to me. So I
Speaker 1: learned vade meditation through Georgi of Ebbsat and honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: just so grateful that I did that. So I did
Speaker 1: that I think four years ago when I was how
Speaker 1: Milo must have been around one. So yeah, my oldest
Speaker 1: Milo was around one and and I got the practice.
Speaker 1: And it's been really difficult to bring it into a
Speaker 1: daily routine, really hard. There's no sugarcoating it. It's when
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, just you know, make sure you
Speaker 1: do it, set aside the time, first thing in the morning.
Speaker 1: It is hard for kids and some days I just
Speaker 1: don't get to it. But I really feel a difference.
Speaker 1: I just find that, you know, when sometimes you lose
Speaker 1: you shit as at much. And hey, some listeners might
Speaker 1: be like, I can't really how auld are you? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, the fuse the short fuse is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I find that when I'm prioritizing that meditation practice,
Speaker 1: I'm like way further away from that breaking point, so
Speaker 1: like I can still get there where I'm just like
Speaker 1: it's too much, I've lost my shit, but it's it
Speaker 1: takes a lot more for me to get there, so
Speaker 1: I've got a lot more bandwidth. And so the meditation
Speaker 1: practice is the first one, and the second one is
Speaker 1: music and dance. I love music, I always have and honestly,
Speaker 1: if I can just put on some music and just
Speaker 1: vibe out in the kitchen for five to ten minutes,
Speaker 1: it makes such a difference. And like prioritizing fun as well,
Speaker 1: because sometimes when things are just crazy, kids are getting
Speaker 1: on my left, it it's just like all too much.
Speaker 1: Like if I can just be like, do you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to lean in and we're just going
Speaker 1: to be real silly and have a great time and
Speaker 1: let's just trash the house and have fun and I'm
Speaker 1: going to deal with it later. That's been really like
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't sound like much, but that has
Speaker 1: been a changer for me to just lean into the fun,
Speaker 1: you know, like that that's all kids want to do.
Speaker 1: It's their first priority are And I always laugh about
Speaker 1: it that, like they get up in the morning and
Speaker 1: they're like, what am I going to do today? Have fun?
Speaker 1: And that's all they want to do.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, and we just.
Speaker 1: Try and lean in. Just do it, have fun, be silly, and.
Speaker 2: It's all about how you make them feel. And you know,
Speaker 2: looking back, it's not going to be all the things
Speaker 2: that you had or all the things you know that
Speaker 2: you were focused on. It was actually on how you
Speaker 2: made them feel. So if you're bringing fun, I think
Speaker 2: that's everything. I always find that there's a playlist. It
Speaker 2: was actually my birthday playlist. It's got like lots of
Speaker 2: like really like wholesome tricks like the Verve, but a
Speaker 2: sweet symphony, you know, just tracked. Honestly, I'll put that
Speaker 2: playlist on and it just brings me back to what
Speaker 2: really matters. I'll be, you know, having a moment and
Speaker 2: then I just put that on and I'm like life
Speaker 2: is beautiful. I'm really grateful.
Speaker 1: Like how music can do that again, brings you back
Speaker 1: to the moment you're like, oh, this doesn't.
Speaker 2: Matter no once your go to or do you mix
Speaker 2: it up? Ah?
Speaker 1: I really mix it up. My Spotify is all over
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: I am a real.
Speaker 1: Classic rock kind of fan. But then just everything, truly everything,
Speaker 1: Like if I'm gonna it depends on the mood I'm in,
Speaker 1: Like if I'm feeling kind of like melancholy, i might
Speaker 1: put on a little bit of like Nasy star.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Like that, yeah, that sort of thing. And then if
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like I want to tackle the day, you
Speaker 1: might do like Queen m Michael Jackson. Controversial but you
Speaker 1: know that that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: So just to that whole Michael Jackson thing, I feel
Speaker 2: like the world's closed over that. The last couple it
Speaker 2: was real controversial and now everyone was like, I just
Speaker 2: like his music.
Speaker 1: Always, so people are like Boycott like Tacon I mean,
Speaker 1: I do like that song. I'm just gonna play it
Speaker 1: the once today.
Speaker 2: Oh dear, Now, look looking at your life from the outside,
Speaker 2: a lot of people would say you've got a lot
Speaker 2: of gifts, you know, like you're very lucky and you've
Speaker 2: got a beautiful life. Do you ever fall victim to
Speaker 2: the grass's green and mentality? You wish that you know
Speaker 2: things are a little bit different, You wish that you
Speaker 2: were doing this or that, And because leaks be honest,
Speaker 2: Instagram is never like an absolute accurate portrayal of our lives.
Speaker 2: Do you, Matilda Green, find that you do full victim
Speaker 2: to a bit of rose colored glasses from time to time?
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent. Yes. But I think I've gotten
Speaker 1: a lot better now at noticing when I'm feeling like that,
Speaker 1: like I can, and usually I can pinpoint it to
Speaker 1: something else. So if I'm feeling like I'm comparing myself
Speaker 1: to other people, whether they've got i don't know, more
Speaker 1: money or a better house or whatever it is, I
Speaker 1: can usually think, ah, do you know what? I've been
Speaker 1: spending too much time on my phone recently, which is
Speaker 1: usually linked to me feeling shitty. Yeap, So it's all
Speaker 1: this vicious cycle. When I'm feeling tired and a bit
Speaker 1: burnt out and just not quite on my game mentally,
Speaker 1: then I spend more time on my phone, and then
Speaker 1: I start comparing myself, and then I can I can
Speaker 1: usually snap myself out of it pretty quick by just count.
Speaker 2: Looks like there's a head popping into the frame. Is
Speaker 2: Penny or is it a dog?
Speaker 1: It's a little dog. Okay, cool, that's faster. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I truly am so grateful every single day, and I
Speaker 1: count my blessings no matter what. I really, I really
Speaker 1: don't take anything in my life for granted, and I
Speaker 1: just have to remind myself of that whenever I feel
Speaker 1: because we all fall victim to it sometimes, I think.
Speaker 1: And it depends on the situation you're in, Like sometimes
Speaker 1: you could be in a group where you know everyone's
Speaker 1: got lots of money or something, or it just depends
Speaker 1: and then you start comparing yourself. But really, we're all
Speaker 1: so lucky, so so lucky.
Speaker 2: And what does success mean to you? If you were
Speaker 2: to answer that in a sentence, how would you define it?
Speaker 1: Success?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 1: I think means living a life that I can be
Speaker 1: proud of in front of my kids. So if that
Speaker 1: can be an example for them, then that's true success.
Speaker 1: That's all it comes down to for me.
Speaker 2: And when are you in your most proud moments? Like
Speaker 2: if you could think back to when you had the
Speaker 2: most pride. What would it be.
Speaker 1: I think probably after the birth of my son Milo.
Speaker 1: I that moment for me was the most incredible moment
Speaker 1: of my entire life, after going through such a long
Speaker 1: journey of you know, pregnancy and labor and all of that.
Speaker 1: And I remember just lying in bed holding him because
Speaker 1: I had a home birth, so I got to be
Speaker 1: in my own bed, which was so nice, and I
Speaker 1: was holding him just thinking like I can do anything.
Speaker 1: And I think it was also like the hormones and
Speaker 1: the feeling of like he's here, I get to meet him.
Speaker 1: This is the person that's been a part of me
Speaker 1: for so long, that I've talked to in my belly
Speaker 1: and that I feel so bonded to. Now he's he's here,
Speaker 1: He's a person I can I can look into his eyes.
Speaker 1: And I also felt like go me. You know. I
Speaker 1: really did think like I can achieve anything if I
Speaker 1: put my mind to it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And those hormones they really are wild, like wild drugs.
Speaker 2: And I think that's so like telling you know, because
Speaker 2: it is sort of coming through like a really hard
Speaker 2: time and having that and I think like you learn
Speaker 2: a lot from life in that moment, right of like,
Speaker 2: you know, good things are worth real hard work and
Speaker 2: hard times, and it's not just going to be an
Speaker 2: easy road. And also like expect the unexpected, don't even
Speaker 2: know what's going to freaking happen, and you kind of
Speaker 2: just have to roll with the punches. Yeah, is there
Speaker 2: a quote or some kind of mantra that you like
Speaker 2: to live your life by, whether it's consciously or subconsciously.
Speaker 2: Is this something that you kind of revert back to
Speaker 2: sometimes when things are getting a bit tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got two. So one is one is life
Speaker 1: begins at the end of your comfort zone, which is
Speaker 1: kind of like what you're saying about how nothing worth
Speaker 1: having comes easy right there. Discomfort is a good thing
Speaker 1: and just being comfortable all the time is not necessarily
Speaker 1: healthy or helpful for you. And I try and live
Speaker 1: my life that way and think, if this is feeling scary,
Speaker 1: then maybe it's worth doing. And the second one is
Speaker 1: can't win the more honestly, like that is just that's
Speaker 1: saying helps me so much, Like if something goes wrong
Speaker 1: or maybe I didn't get an opportunity, if something falls through,
Speaker 1: or if you know, I haven't had a great day
Speaker 1: on the parenting tools, I just go oh, I can't
Speaker 1: win them all, and it really helps me because it
Speaker 1: takes the charge out of it as well. And it's just,
Speaker 1: oh wow, tomorrow's a new day. It's just it is
Speaker 1: what it is. It can't be perfect all the time.
Speaker 2: But you can win the war. You can lose a
Speaker 2: few battles, but you can still win the war.
Speaker 1: Right, there's still chance, you know, like we can bring
Speaker 1: it there tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It's okay when you look back to you know how
Speaker 2: your life in the media kind of started years back
Speaker 2: when you're on The Bachelor, Like how old were you?
Speaker 1: I was twenty four? Oh my god, And I cannot
Speaker 1: watch that again because I'm like, who is that? Who
Speaker 1: is that child on the show?
Speaker 2: Would you do anything different? I mean, look, it worked
Speaker 2: out pretty well for you, but would you have done
Speaker 2: anything different? Like looking back through your journey of your
Speaker 2: entrance into the public arena.
Speaker 1: Oh, so many things, Okay, so many things. I think
Speaker 1: I've evolved so much as a person, so it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to think, Oh, I wish I'd done that differently
Speaker 1: because I kind of was a different person. You know,
Speaker 1: we all change as we get older. But I think
Speaker 1: for me, I wish i'd been a little bit more
Speaker 1: authentically myself because I was such a people pleaser at
Speaker 1: that time in my life, especially like extreme, So I
Speaker 1: just wish I had had had the courage to say
Speaker 1: what I really thought and stood up for myself a
Speaker 1: bit more and just had had the guts to have
Speaker 1: more of an opinion.
Speaker 2: Big time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I think I just you know, I
Speaker 1: was young twenty four and twenty four at the time,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm really mature, and then now that
Speaker 1: I'm almost thirty four, like, I don't know, should think
Speaker 1: I was mature to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, you can't go through life with regrets, but
Speaker 2: you can, certainly, I guess, go through and evaluate, but
Speaker 2: you got to be you got to be count yourself.
Speaker 2: You can reflect, and I think being authentic is probably
Speaker 2: one of the hardest things for a lot of people,
Speaker 2: Like we're just so especially the world of and right now,
Speaker 2: it's just so hard to say something and then you
Speaker 2: don't know how it's going to go, and then you're like, well,
Speaker 2: there we go. That's gonna alienate me or that's gonna
Speaker 2: It's a really interesting space that we're in right now,
Speaker 2: where you know, people will have to be so careful
Speaker 2: with what they say. And yeah, I hope that people
Speaker 2: kind of do find their authenticity. I think that's the
Speaker 2: ultimate in life. Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. And we're in this
Speaker 1: bizarre time where everyone is expected to have an opinion
Speaker 1: on everything, and I think it's actually really unhelpful to
Speaker 1: be honest, because no one's one opinion holds more weight
Speaker 1: than anyone else's. And it's this weird time, isn't it,
Speaker 1: where just because somebody has a social media following, get
Speaker 1: expected to like have this public stance on so many
Speaker 1: different issues. And it's like, Okay, I got followers from
Speaker 1: going on The Bachelor, Like do you want.
Speaker 2: Me to yeah, into the geopolitical as exactly? I know,
Speaker 2: I know, and yeah, it's it's not it's not normal.
Speaker 2: It's not normal. And also the exposure that we have
Speaker 2: to every single thing that goes on in the world,
Speaker 2: Like back in villages times when we were like cave
Speaker 2: me in, you know, you didn't know half the shit
Speaker 2: that was going on. It's just like so much information,
Speaker 2: whether it's even about health stuff or whether it's about
Speaker 2: political stuff. It's so hard to wag through.
Speaker 1: And like nobody knows what's what's true anymore. Just like
Speaker 1: somebody somebody sees something on Instagram with like a in
Speaker 1: an authoritative way, You're like, oh, well, you know that
Speaker 1: must be that must be true. And then someone else
Speaker 1: say something completely different in a confident, abative.
Speaker 2: Way exactly, and then you're like, what just sucking side
Speaker 2: do I take? I think the most important thing for
Speaker 2: sanity is to just try and step away and like
Speaker 2: absorb your world like the most. I think the most
Speaker 2: beneficial thing you can do is be a positive impact
Speaker 2: on your like immediate community, right, one hundred percent, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because that's that's somewhere where you can make a direct impact,
Speaker 1: Like if you are an active part of your community
Speaker 1: looking after those around you and and being an example
Speaker 1: to your children about how to look after those around
Speaker 1: you and and care for people and help others, that
Speaker 1: is that's, in my opinion, one of the best things
Speaker 1: you can do, because then you're raising those people to
Speaker 1: help the people around them, and then it's a you know,
Speaker 1: it's a blow on effect of positivity.
Speaker 2: Do you have any role models that you looked up
Speaker 2: to or that you've even in the last ten years,
Speaker 2: someone that you look up to now that you're like man,
Speaker 2: they've got it going on.
Speaker 1: So many people. But do you know what, mostly my
Speaker 1: family and my neighbors like some honestly, like the people
Speaker 1: that are in my community are so generous and giving.
Speaker 1: And it's not that they have all of the stuff
Speaker 1: to give, and it's just that's that's the community spirit.
Speaker 1: And these people are just so kind and so generous.
Speaker 1: And I think since moving to a smaller community from
Speaker 1: the city, I've learned so much from them about how
Speaker 1: important it is to look after those around you and
Speaker 1: be active in fostering those relationships around you and in
Speaker 1: your community, because it doesn't just happen like you do.
Speaker 1: Actually have to make an effort to be a part
Speaker 1: of a community to have the community.
Speaker 2: I found that big time moving rurally, Like, the community
Speaker 2: spirit is wild. When I lived in the city for
Speaker 2: so many years, I know even you my neighbors never
Speaker 2: had any assistance striped through hard times. When anything happens,
Speaker 2: they all band together and it's just the most beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: And I think it is how we're supposed to live
Speaker 2: as human beings, especially when there's children in the mix.
Speaker 2: Like it does take a village and it takes a
Speaker 2: community to actually stay sane, and I think that's why
Speaker 2: there's so many issues going on now, like people feel
Speaker 2: like they're forced to do it all on their own life.
Speaker 2: If we could have been together. This is student like
Speaker 2: an inspirational but isn't it true, like we need other
Speaker 2: humans to survive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because social media gives us the illusion of connection,
Speaker 1: but it's not connection, not at all. Like if anything,
Speaker 1: it's well, I mean, we can just take one lock
Speaker 1: at all the mental health stats and see that it's
Speaker 1: not working. When we're like, we're we're connected, but we're
Speaker 1: actually the less the least connected we've ever been. And
Speaker 1: it's really sad. When we had the same situation when
Speaker 1: we lived in Auckland, our neighbors like we'd come and
Speaker 1: go and we were the same age. We probably should
Speaker 1: have made an effort to be friends, but the only
Speaker 1: time we ever interacted was when they was when their
Speaker 1: dog escaped and I and so it was in the
Speaker 1: morning and I was holding my coffee and I was
Speaker 1: holding the dog. I was calling them and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize but like I was bending down to and get
Speaker 1: the dog. And then as I was bending down, I
Speaker 1: was pouring coffee on its head.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even fuck and that's when we left
Speaker 2: the city.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like this, so so then I had
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, I've got your dog and also
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry I bourn coffee all over.
Speaker 2: How did they go down? Did they talked to you afterwards?
Speaker 1: All? I know? It was just an awkward interaction and
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, that's okay. I was like sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't mentor and they were like, yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 1: We're going to take the dog now.
Speaker 2: So you won't be moving back to the city anytime.
Speaker 2: So so you line up there. So you guys are
Speaker 2: like out of the city quite not rural, but like
Speaker 2: small town small small town.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, like it's not that small. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the population of Walkward, US have you five thousand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Ce's it's tweet on the way tweet Tweet's
Speaker 2: not the right word.
Speaker 1: It's i'd say it's medium small town. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: it's it's growing pretty rapidly, and some of the og
Speaker 1: locals are not happy about it.
Speaker 2: They're not they're not in training. You haven't got McDonald's
Speaker 2: or the wee house coming in of you at the
Speaker 2: warehouse to be here We've got the warehouse and it
Speaker 2: goes off, it pops off. It's great for kids.
Speaker 1: I'm saying to actually, like, you know what we need.
Speaker 1: We need a kid's boutique, you know, like we need
Speaker 1: a kids drop in town where people can go and
Speaker 1: get their their kids party supplies.
Speaker 2: You're going to advocate breaking kids boutique.
Speaker 1: From even start. One.
Speaker 2: Been so nice chatting with you today. I want to
Speaker 2: finish on what advice you would give to your eighteen
Speaker 2: year old self. I know we talked about like looking
Speaker 2: back at the Bachelor of that if you could talk
Speaker 2: to a younger version of yourself, knowing what's ahead, what
Speaker 2: would you tell yourself?
Speaker 1: The first thing would be lay off the fake han
Speaker 1: for the of God, it's just it's just not okay.
Speaker 1: And the main, the main serious one is because I
Speaker 1: went through school with most people telling me that I
Speaker 1: wasn't an athlete and that I wasn't academic, and so
Speaker 1: I had these these beliefs from when I was really
Speaker 1: young to when I finished school, thinking, right, I'm not
Speaker 1: smart and I'm not good at sports, So what's left
Speaker 1: I'm good with people? Okay, so that's a pretty small pool.
Speaker 1: So I'll go into sales and like, which was great,
Speaker 1: But I really wish that I could tell myself, like,
Speaker 1: you are smart and you can achieve whatever you want
Speaker 1: to achieve. And I just wish I had had more
Speaker 1: voices telling me that through school. And it has made
Speaker 1: me realize how important it is not to label your
Speaker 1: children as well, because they really take it on board
Speaker 1: like oh, you're shy, you're quiet, you're sporty, you're this,
Speaker 1: you're smart, you're not good at writing, you're good at this,
Speaker 1: because they believe it and they think, oh, okay, well I'm
Speaker 1: not good at that, so that's the reality. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. So I really wish I could tell eighteen
Speaker 1: year old me that you can achieve it if if
Speaker 1: you try, you're not done.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Well, I'm so grateful for you popping on
Speaker 2: today and having a little chat and having like a
Speaker 2: little lens into your life behind the behind the scenes
Speaker 2: of Matilda Green.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. It was lovely to catch up
Speaker 1: and just be a part of this zen moments.
Speaker 2: Lovely, mist I should have told you to bring a
Speaker 2: cup of tea or something. I've actually got my oil
Speaker 2: b Do you like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? To the side, Oh that's nice. I've just got
Speaker 1: a dog and a lot of mess, so I won't
Speaker 1: show you the backdrop.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's what it's all about, the realness of being human. Matilda,
Speaker 2: thank you so much. I really really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks Pja.
Speaker 2: Listening back to that chat, I really wish I had
Speaker 2: dived into a few more questions with Matilda, but I
Speaker 2: ended up cutting it short, and I've still got more
Speaker 2: I want to talk to her about. But there were
Speaker 2: a few things that really did stick out to me
Speaker 2: this week, and I loved that. You know, when she
Speaker 2: is feeling overwhelmed or she's about to lose a shit,
Speaker 2: she'll reset with a dance in the kitchen, with like
Speaker 2: a little you know, a little dance party. It's that simple.
Speaker 2: Just turning on music really loudly, and it doesn't matter, Like,
Speaker 2: don't care if it's a cool song or not. Just
Speaker 2: blast it loudly and it does reset the mode. I
Speaker 2: found it so so effective when my toldles melting darden
Speaker 2: or having a tantrum, or just the day it feels
Speaker 2: really hard. As I said, I put on that birth
Speaker 2: playlist and it just brings me back to what really
Speaker 2: matters in life. I also love how she made it
Speaker 2: clear of what her non negotible is.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's lots of things that she does also
Speaker 2: incorporate into a routine, but the meditation, and I know
Speaker 2: that's also really kind of off putting for a lot
Speaker 2: of people. They think, shit, I can't sit that still
Speaker 2: for that amount of time. I learned vadic meditation. Gosh,
Speaker 2: when was it? When I was in Melbourne on breakfast
Speaker 2: radio and I was sleep deprived, and I just remember
Speaker 2: how incredible it was. They say it's like equivalent to
Speaker 2: a few hours sleep or something like that. Who do
Speaker 2: it properly? You set yourself out to do it twice
Speaker 2: a day, twenty minutes each time. Now as your parent,
Speaker 2: there can differ, but I think trying to stick to
Speaker 2: doing that as much as possible. It does. There's so
Speaker 2: much research and science behind it. It really is a
Speaker 2: magical tool. So I love that she has put that
Speaker 2: as one of her Nona Gosh balls. I was really
Speaker 2: related with her move to walk with in that small
Speaker 2: community and the impact that that's had on her life
Speaker 2: and seeing firsthand the simple acts of community and how
Speaker 2: they really make a difference, And you know that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff is so much more important than posting the
Speaker 2: latest opinion on the latest thing that's going on in
Speaker 2: the news and feeling value from that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that that doesn't have a place. It absolutely does,
Speaker 2: But I think it can feel really overwhelming when there's
Speaker 2: so much going on and you feel like you're not
Speaker 2: contributing to the world. One way of getting back to
Speaker 2: feeling like you are making some kind of difference as
Speaker 2: tepping into your community and seeing your acts firsthand pay off.
Speaker 2: So that really sat with me, and I loved her
Speaker 2: advice to her younger self. I'm going to kind of
Speaker 2: paraphrase it here, but the way I read it was,
Speaker 2: don't absorb what others think of you, because look, they
Speaker 2: could tell you a green elephant, and if you hear
Speaker 2: that enough, you will genuinely believe it. And that's what
Speaker 2: we do, right. People will tell you you're not sporty,
Speaker 2: you're not good enough, you're not this, you're not that,
Speaker 2: and you genuinely believe it if you hear it enough.
Speaker 2: So it's finding that strength in yourself to know who
Speaker 2: you are. And I don't think that you get that
Speaker 2: when you're younger. That happens when you grow up, you
Speaker 2: have experiences, and you learn who you are who you
Speaker 2: know as the years go by. But it's something we
Speaker 2: can all take something from, you know, standing true to
Speaker 2: yourself and not believing every negative word that someone has
Speaker 2: to say about you. So yeah, I really enjoyed my
Speaker 2: catch up with Matilda this week. As I said, I
Speaker 2: do wish actually I kind of dived a little bit
Speaker 2: deeper and now I'm looking back. We could have gone
Speaker 2: on some wild tangents, but look, I hope you've got
Speaker 2: something out of it. I'd love to know your thoughts
Speaker 2: on this week's episode, and if you've got any suggestions
Speaker 2: for other people who'd be a great fit for the podcast,
Speaker 2: get in touch with me on Instagram at PJDJ and
Speaker 2: I'll be back next week. Have a good one.