1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: With us. Now is Jeremy Hutton, Milford Asset Management. Hi Jeremy, Hi, 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Heather he doing, I'm very well, thank you. Now, all 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: the financial market's attention has been on the Middle East. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: What's going on there. I'd imagine oil and energy prices 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: are leading the moves across many asset classes globally. 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. There are a few moving parts here. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: But unsurprisingly, oil has shot up aggressively over the past 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: few days. Recruite oils up almost fifteen percent since the 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Iranian strikes began on the weekend. Now, this is important 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: for many areas of financial markets, as it does flow 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: through into many areas. But I suppose all the markets 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: are trying to grapple with at the moment is how 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: long this disruption in energy delivery is going to be. 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: And I suppose that's really important for global inflation and 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: for how long we could have a little spike up 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: of inflation. And we know the straight up for moves 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: by Iran that carries about twenty percent of the world's 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: daily oil supply. And if this stays closed or impacted 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: for a while, then we could get some persistent higher inflation, 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: will get high costs flowing through into economies, and central 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: banks may have to increase interest rates and response to this, 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: And this could happen at a time where economic activity 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: is falling, and that's what the market fares is a 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: slightly ugly stakeflationary environment. Now Iran they've declared the straight closed. 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: You know, Trump was trying very hard this morning to 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: reassure markets and reopen it. But I think many countries 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: around the world will want this energy flow to continue 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: pretty soon. 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: So how have the major market indicy has been faring 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: so far? 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: At a headline level in the US markets, the SMP 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: five hundred and NASDAK, they've both opened down around one percent, 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: which doesn't seem like much given the situation, But below 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: the surface in certain sectors there's been some huge shifts 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: and a lot of volatility, but I suppose the mood 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: has generally been very risk off. Some of the economically 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: sensitive sectors like airlines, travel tourism unsurprisingly has been hit. 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 2: Commodities that are linked to economic growth have also fallen. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: The US stoller. There's been plenty of discussion on this, 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: but at the moment, it's still acting as we expected 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: it as a safe haven and gold is probably the 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: most interesting one. I mean, this is down sharply. Normally 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: gold would be up in an event like this, but 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: I suppose it's given how hot it's been, how much 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: positioning and risk has moved into gold, it's actually moved 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: the other way. In this risk of environment. 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I see the europe and the Asian markets are getting 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: hit a lot harder. 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is arguably the story that markets are a 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: little bit more concerned about. I mean the European and 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: Japanese main indexes they're both down of five percent, and 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Korea that's down around seven percent. And again this is 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: linked to energy and the flow of LNG and gas 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: this time. But it does show that how reliant these 55 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: countries are on Middle Eastern energy, and a lot more 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: so than the US. You're seeing spot gas prices in 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: Europe rise very sharply, and this is sort of reminiscent 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: of the Russia Ukrain crisis in twenty twenty two. And 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: then Japan and Korea. You know, they've got some very 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: valuable industrial and chip production that relies on the flow 61 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: of this Middle Eastern gas. So investors will get a 62 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: little bit more nervous on these markets if disruption continues 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: for an extended period of time. 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Jeremy, can we quick run down on how we're doing 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: here on the INSIDEX. 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Insietet's been a little holding up recently well, but 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: it is still down one and a half percent over 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: the past few days and travel stocks are leading leading 69 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: the falls like Circle and tourism holdings Iman. In fact, 70 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: there are only a few companies in the green so 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: far this month or over the last few days. So yes, 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: the INSIDEX under a bit of pressure as well. 73 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Good stuff, mate, Good to talk to you. Thank you, 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hautton, Milford Asset Management. For more from Hither Duplessy 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Alan Drive, listen live to news talks it'd be from 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio