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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture vans and a play at store news talks,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, it is six after five news. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Newstalks said, be well, it was a great start. The

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Speaker 2: terrorist tax. Is it going to cost us more than

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Speaker 2: we actually gain from it? We'll look at that just

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Speaker 2: before six this morning. Is your phone giving you brain cancer?

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Speaker 2: We've all wondered it. A new study is definitive on

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Speaker 2: an answer. A terror expert says, we should be screening

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Speaker 2: security screening at our regional airports and for regional flights.

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Speaker 2: Plus can the police implement the new Gang's Bill. We'll

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Speaker 2: look at that just before five thirty as well.

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Speaker 3: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the fourth of September. Fifty one people

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Speaker 2: have died in the Ukrainian city of put Lava, one

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Speaker 2: of the deadliest russiattar since the start of the war.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen people are still reportedly trapped under rubble following the

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Speaker 2: missile strikes. The target was a military institute where Kiev

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Speaker 2: says cadets were training.

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Speaker 4: The time range for the ballistic missiles to reach the

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Speaker 4: target was very short and the only way to intercept

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Speaker 4: them was to have a Patriot system or Sempty Air

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Speaker 4: defense system because they're the only one capable of intercepting

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Speaker 2: A Greek flagged oil tanker in the Red Sea is

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Speaker 2: still on fire almost two weeks after being attacked by

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Speaker 2: Hooti rebels. It's carrying about a million barrels of oil,

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Speaker 2: which if spelt, could cause an environmental disaster and be

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Speaker 2: one of the worst oil legs from a tanker. In

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Speaker 2: other news, twelve people have died asylum seekers after a

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Speaker 2: boat sank crossing the English Channel. Twenty one thousand people

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Speaker 2: on that just before six back here. A new study

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Speaker 2: from Otarga University has found evening screen use only begins

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Speaker 2: to impact sleep if it's done from bed, not in

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Speaker 2: the hours before that. The lead author, Dr Bradley Brosnan

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Speaker 2: says this goes against current guidelines and is recommending people

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Speaker 5: Just even being a bit more mindful. If you can't

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Speaker 3: The first word on the News of the Day early.

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Speaker 6: Edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture

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Speaker 6: beds at a play at store news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be some good news this morning. On electricity, the

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Speaker 2: wholesale prices have plummeted the energy this is energy linked

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Speaker 2: when I say the word plummet, I mean it. Lake

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Speaker 2: on two weeks ago. This was always going to happen,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. I mean, the experts told us that it

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Speaker 2: would eventually rain, all the snow would melt and we

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Speaker 2: happen again, and we've got no bridging finance. Really that's

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Speaker 2: just gone ten minutes after five, Ryan Bridge, Now the phone.

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Speaker 2: Second bit of phone news for you this morning. This

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Speaker 2: Good Morning. Fourteen after five nine two is the number

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Speaker 2: that sas reporting to our terar threat in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: But first, this Gang's Bill is expected to pass its

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Speaker 2: This is the search powers for police being able to

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Speaker 2: disperse gang members if they're congregating together, banning the gang patches,

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Speaker 2: I mean if you think about it, how if you

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Speaker 2: one quarter past five. Cran Bridge, a terrorism expert, says

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Speaker 2: there's a realistic possibility of a terrorist attack in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: level hasn't changed. John Battersby is massive University Center for

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Speaker 2: Defense and Security studies expect with us this morning. John,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, Thanks for being with me. How

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Essays report hasn't really said anything

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Speaker 5: that's terribly different from the risk that has existed now

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Speaker 5: at which we could just strengthen our security consciousness and

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Speaker 2: What's the difference between a bus and a plane. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Oh look, you're absolutely right. The risk that it's there

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Speaker 2: I think what the report more generally talks about the

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Speaker 2: over issues like Palestine, and we've seen lots of protests

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Speaker 5: events do seep through interaction here. So yeah, where we

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Speaker 5: I think what worries me more is that the zenders

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Speaker 2: Massi University's Center for Defense and Security Studies with us

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Speaker 2: Just gone twenty one minutes after five. We're going to

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray over in the UK just after the five

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Speaker 2: point thirty news, I should say the large search and

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Speaker 2: a slowdown, So this is the latest shock. Is off

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Speaker 2: Twenty five after five NEWSTALKSB. I have zero issues with

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Speaker 2: Morning, it is twenty four away from the sixth Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: this is about the tourist tax going up from thirty

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Speaker 2: The tourist tax going up, my opinion is we will

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Speaker 2: Twenty three away from six Ryan Bridge, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to have reporters. Jamie Cunningham is in dneed in this

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Speaker 2: wor Jamie, good morning. You've got an update. Actually we

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning. So we've found out that they may

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Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather in Dunedin today, Jamie.

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Speaker 9: Well it's fine and there's a bit of high cloud

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Claire Schubert is in christ Church this morning. Claire,

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Speaker 2: you guys gonna host the Calm Games?

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Speaker 10: Well, put simply no, Ryan, that's the answer. The report

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Speaker 7: First to have it.

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Speaker 10: It recommends that christ Church puts the brakes on the

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Speaker 2: Right well, at least I've made a decision. I guess clear.

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Speaker 2: How's your weather today?

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Speaker 10: Rain clearing this morning, should become a bit finer by afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Max Toles and Wellington Max the Expressway Company.

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Speaker 2: Cooler, bit cooler, thank you, and even eighteen minutes away

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Speaker 2: Devin g At, UK europe correspondent, Live search and rescue

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Speaker 2: operation underwe in the English Channel. Devin, what's happened?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Ryan, I'm afraid another boat carrying migrants trying to

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Speaker 12: cross the English Channel to enter the UK illegally has capsized.

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Speaker 12: More than fifty people have been rescued, according to the

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Speaker 12: French Coastguard, but twelve people, including we now believe a

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Speaker 12: pregnant woman has died. This is the deadliest disaster this

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Speaker 12: year in the Channel. Indeed, some are suggesting it's probably

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Speaker 12: the biggest single fatality for several years within the Channel.

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Speaker 12: Downing Street here in the UK saying the news is

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Speaker 12: truly horrific. More than twenty thousand people have made the

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Speaker 12: crossing from France to the UK so far this year,

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Speaker 12: but the numbers of deaths has also risen significantly in

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Speaker 12: this last year alone, and they're saying that's because quite simply,

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Speaker 12: the people smugglers are getting more ruthless. They're using boats

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Speaker 12: that simply aren't capable of carrying people and certainly are

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Speaker 12: not seaworthy. Indeed, this boat was seven meters long, which

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Speaker 12: are sunk and it was overloaded with seventy people, and

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Speaker 12: quite simply, I'm afraid it seemed to go under. We

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Speaker 12: have had some windier rougher seas and I'm afraid it

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Speaker 12: just looks like this boat simply capsized.

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Speaker 2: Terrible. The former boss of Volkswagen has appeared in court.

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Speaker 2: This is the well huge scandal, but years and years

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Speaker 2: ago now taken a while to get to court.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it sure has.

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Speaker 10: So.

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Speaker 12: Nine years after the cow maker was found to have

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Speaker 12: rigged the missions tests, the former boss of Volkswagen, Martin Vintercon,

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Speaker 12: chief executive company in twenty fifteen, is on trial. He

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Speaker 12: denies the charges. We've just had the first day of

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Speaker 12: the so called diesel Gate trial, and if found guilty,

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Speaker 12: the seventy seven year old could face up to ten

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Speaker 12: years in prison. Now you'll remember the diesel Gate scandal

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Speaker 12: erupted in September twenty fifteen, and that was because American

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Speaker 12: environmental protection agencies accused Volkswagen of installing illegal software on cars,

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Speaker 12: so called defeat devices. And what that member was software

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Speaker 12: within the car recognized that the vehicle was being tested

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Speaker 12: in a laboratory and managed to turn on emissions control

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Speaker 12: so that it would pass the tests. As soon as

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Speaker 12: it was outside the laboratory, it would turn them on

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Speaker 12: again in order to boost performance. And of course it

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Speaker 12: became a scandal which engulfed Audi, Porsche, Sayout and Scoda

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Speaker 12: as well as Volkswagen itself. And indeed the scandal is

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Speaker 12: said to cost more than fifty five billion New Zealand

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Speaker 12: dollars in fines to Volkswagen.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, thank you for that, Kevin Gray, UK europe correspondent.

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Speaker 2: I did notice, actually that Volkswagen is going to be

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Speaker 2: closing one of its factories in Germany. We might ask

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Speaker 2: motoring expert Mike Hosking about it. Shortly just gone to

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Speaker 2: living away from six Bryan Bridge, right. The tourist debate.

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Speaker 2: It's raging this morning over how many tourists this new

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Speaker 2: text hike will turn off a visit to Middle Earth.

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Speaker 2: The international tourist levy is currently thirty five dollars, but

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Speaker 2: from the start of next month it'll cost visitors arriving

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Speaker 2: here one hundred dollars. The tourism industry says forty eight

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Speaker 2: thousand fewer tourists will come here as a result, and

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Speaker 2: they spend almost three hundred million dollars So who's right

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Speaker 2: who's wrong? Eve Lawrence is with Intrepid Travel New Zealand. Eve,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning. Do you who do you think

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Speaker 2: is right here? Do you think, you know, the numbers

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Speaker 2: being banded about are possible that we could lose fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand tourists a year?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I absolutely do. I think New Zealand is losing

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Speaker 7: competitiveness in the tourism landscape and I think it's absolutely

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Speaker 7: possible we could lose a lot of revenue to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: What types of tourists would be affected most? Do you think?

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Speaker 7: Well, when you think about the recent increases in visa fees,

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Speaker 7: we're talking about the Asian market as well. Here, if

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Speaker 7: you look at a family of four coming over to

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Speaker 7: New Zealand from China, that already now going to be

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Speaker 7: looking at around two thousand dollars just to choose New

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Speaker 7: Zealand as a holiday destination, and that's before they even

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Speaker 7: think about booking flights or coming here and paying for

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Speaker 7: on ground services.

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Speaker 2: Is that two thousand extra on top of what they

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Speaker 2: were paying because of recent heights or that's two thousand total,

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Speaker 2: that's two thousand total.

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Speaker 7: So the visa fees of doubled and the IVL has

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Speaker 7: now increased by one hundred and eighty five percent.

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Speaker 2: How does that compare to similar markets that they might

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Speaker 2: otherwise go to. I saw Australia put their livy up,

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Speaker 2: albeit only ten bucks in July.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they absolutely did. But the reality is we are

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Speaker 7: still lagging far behind a lot of other nations in

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Speaker 7: terms of our recovery from pre COVID. We're only sitting

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Speaker 7: at eighty percent visitation of pre COVID numbers, whereas Australia

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Speaker 7: are going to recover to one hundred percent in a

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Speaker 7: round about the next three months. We're lagging behind in

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Speaker 7: air connectivity and we're also lagging behind now on price.

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Speaker 2: So would you argue now's not the right time. Do

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Speaker 2: you can see that we do need at some point

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Speaker 2: to increase this levy because it pays for the upkeep

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Speaker 2: of our national parks, et cetera.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent. But that's also something that hasn't

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Speaker 7: been given to us or hasn't been discussed, is what

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Speaker 7: this funding mechanism is actually going to be going towards

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Speaker 7: and how it's going to be distributed. So we need

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Speaker 7: to understand what's going to go towards tourism and what's

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Speaker 7: going to be pushed towards conservation.

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Speaker 2: I've seen fifty to fifty split.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but who's that going to go to and how's

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Speaker 7: that going to be distributed? And of course we support

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Speaker 7: an increase, but a three week window in order for

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Speaker 7: us to push this out to travel agent market is

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Speaker 7: not long enough. So October twenty twenty five would have

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Speaker 7: been a more reasonable timeframe.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I suppose people have already booked. Well, if you've

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Speaker 2: already booked, whatuld you have already paid and therefore you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be affected from next month?

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Speaker 5: But who knows?

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Speaker 7: I think is it for new applications or are people

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Speaker 7: that have already submitted then their ETA going to be

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Speaker 7: expected to increase their fee if they arrive after the

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Speaker 7: first of October.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, you see, couldn't Eve thank you

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Speaker 2: for that, Eve Lawrence, Intrepid Travel, New Zealand. It is

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Speaker 2: eight minutes away from six nine to nine two the

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Speaker 2: number to text. Ryan. Backpackers spend a lot, particularly in

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Speaker 2: our regions, so let's not discount them. They are important

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Speaker 2: labor source for us as well. Ryan next one hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars to visit here is nothing. We need quality big spenders,

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Speaker 2: not quantity who are here on the cheap causing problems.

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Speaker 2: That's from Polly eight to six.

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Speaker 6: The News you Need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 6: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New

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Speaker 6: Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Sai'd be five to six, Peter says Ryan. The cost

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Speaker 2: to come to New Zealand is far larger than Australia

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Speaker 2: and Canada, et cetera. We need our fees to be

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Speaker 2: cheaper than theirs. Mike Hosking is here next. Hey Mike.

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Speaker 13: I'm in a real quandary over it, because in theory

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Speaker 13: I would argue it's bollocks. One hundred dollars is fifty pounds,

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Speaker 13: it's sixty US dollars, it's nothing. But all the people

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Speaker 13: I've talked to in the industry argue against it. Where

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Speaker 13: they've been hoisted. I suspect is that when Doucy yesterday

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Speaker 13: said ninety three percent or whatever the number was, said

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Speaker 13: they want an increase. So the consultation was do you

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Speaker 13: want an increase? Most people actually said yes. Where it's

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Speaker 13: fallen apart is the increases to one hundred dollars. Most

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Speaker 13: people said make it fifty or whatever, but they all

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Speaker 13: say it is material. But then again, you go back

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Speaker 13: to your question. If one hundred dollars as you hurdle,

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Speaker 13: fifty pounds as you hurdle, sixty bucks as you hurdle,

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Speaker 13: do you really want those people in the country If

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Speaker 13: suddenly you're going sixty US dollars, Oh my god, I

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Speaker 13: don't know if I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to go to New Zealand. How t A.

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Speaker 2: It's mainly backpackers. Were you ever backpacked? I was wondering

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Speaker 2: that before, because a ridiculous question. Do I look like

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Speaker 2: I've ever backed?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: But do we young?

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Speaker 13: I own a backpack?

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Speaker 2: You were young? Once? I thought, well, then when I

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Speaker 2: was young, I looked like this, and that's very sad.

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Speaker 13: And get this, of course it's sad, but it didn't

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Speaker 13: mean a backpacked And so that that's not not against backpackers.

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Speaker 13: But at the end of day, the end of the day,

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Speaker 13: I mean, so I can't with the real issue is

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Speaker 13: the fundamental issue, which is the people have not come

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Speaker 13: back to this country. We're at eighty percent of where

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Speaker 13: we were, and I think we killed our reputation when

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Speaker 13: we closed the borders and was so slow.

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Speaker 2: We're not as sexy now, and it's expensive to get here,

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Speaker 2: it is, and you've got plane supply issues, and you've

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Speaker 2: got root issues, and we're stuck.

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Speaker 13: We're stuck a bit at the bottom of the world.

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Speaker 13: And we shouldn't be arguing about one hundred dollars. Really,

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Speaker 13: we got bigger fish to for I agree, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, you'll be doing lots on that this morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure MIKE'SI the next I will see you tomorrow.

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