1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:15,227 Speaker 2: We've got our boarding pass to go to Australia and 4 00:00:15,227 --> 00:00:18,467 Speaker 2: our Aussie correspondent, Adam Peacock is on the line. As 5 00:00:18,467 --> 00:00:21,227 Speaker 2: we do around this time every Saturday afternoon, we get 6 00:00:21,267 --> 00:00:24,107 Speaker 2: across the ditch and say good day to Adam Peacock, 7 00:00:24,227 --> 00:00:30,267 Speaker 2: afternoon morning whatever. Always a busy week across the Tesman. 8 00:00:30,307 --> 00:00:33,507 Speaker 2: And look, this Sam Kerr story was huge, but it's 9 00:00:33,507 --> 00:00:35,547 Speaker 2: now come to an end. And look a good result 10 00:00:35,627 --> 00:00:39,747 Speaker 2: for Sam Kerr overall, isn't it. Yeah. 11 00:00:39,867 --> 00:00:44,987 Speaker 3: I mean it's a complex issue, everything that's happened. It's 12 00:00:45,147 --> 00:00:48,627 Speaker 3: obviously not ideal that Sam found herself in that situation. Well, 13 00:00:48,787 --> 00:00:51,547 Speaker 3: had a big night out, a lot of opinion about 14 00:00:51,547 --> 00:00:54,827 Speaker 3: what should happen Now to Sam Kerr, I'm just kind 15 00:00:54,827 --> 00:00:59,947 Speaker 3: of pleased that it's resolved itself wishing the wrong to 16 00:01:00,067 --> 00:01:02,627 Speaker 3: find wrong. I mean we've all gone out and had 17 00:01:02,627 --> 00:01:04,787 Speaker 3: a big night out and you know I behaved in 18 00:01:04,827 --> 00:01:06,187 Speaker 3: a way that you look back on and go, oh 19 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:09,507 Speaker 3: that correct? Was that right? I think looking at the 20 00:01:09,547 --> 00:01:12,307 Speaker 3: whole bit of vision and the whole of it is available. 21 00:01:12,307 --> 00:01:15,427 Speaker 3: The thirty minutes. She's doesn't feel like she's done anything 22 00:01:15,467 --> 00:01:19,867 Speaker 3: criminally wrong. So yeah, now everyone hopefully can get on 23 00:01:19,947 --> 00:01:21,867 Speaker 3: with life. But it's not going to be that simple 24 00:01:21,867 --> 00:01:24,627 Speaker 3: because there's now questions over whether or not should be 25 00:01:24,667 --> 00:01:27,147 Speaker 3: captain or not, so that remains to be saying. 26 00:01:27,467 --> 00:01:30,307 Speaker 2: What's the public feeling in Australia. Should she remain captain? 27 00:01:31,827 --> 00:01:33,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people think that she should just 28 00:01:33,907 --> 00:01:38,627 Speaker 3: get on with life and it's normal, like it's how 29 00:01:38,667 --> 00:01:41,467 Speaker 3: she was viewed before this incident. Others think that there's 30 00:01:41,467 --> 00:01:43,187 Speaker 3: no way the world she should be a leader again. 31 00:01:43,267 --> 00:01:47,067 Speaker 3: My personal view is that I don't think she should 32 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:50,547 Speaker 3: be stripped of a captaincy. I thought a long time 33 00:01:50,587 --> 00:01:53,027 Speaker 3: ago when she was actually made captain. I'm not sure 34 00:01:53,027 --> 00:01:56,307 Speaker 3: if it's suited exactly what she needed in her life, 35 00:01:56,347 --> 00:01:57,867 Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. She was happy to 36 00:01:57,867 --> 00:02:00,627 Speaker 3: be captain, she wasn't forced into it. But I just 37 00:02:00,627 --> 00:02:04,307 Speaker 3: think that Sam is a leader through action. She's a 38 00:02:04,387 --> 00:02:06,107 Speaker 3: leader in the dressing room. Does she needed that a 39 00:02:06,587 --> 00:02:09,307 Speaker 3: layer of responsibility or always take talking to the media 40 00:02:09,427 --> 00:02:13,027 Speaker 3: and having that scrutiny. Probably not so. I don't know. 41 00:02:13,147 --> 00:02:15,827 Speaker 3: It might look too convenient now to take away from 42 00:02:15,827 --> 00:02:19,187 Speaker 3: the captaincy. But it's up to Football Australia to communicate 43 00:02:19,187 --> 00:02:21,107 Speaker 3: it properly whatever decision they come up with, and I 44 00:02:21,107 --> 00:02:21,827 Speaker 3: hope they do that. 45 00:02:22,387 --> 00:02:26,467 Speaker 2: Matthew Kernerman, the Aussie spinner, sighted for a suspect action 46 00:02:26,627 --> 00:02:29,387 Speaker 2: or reported I probably should say for a suspect action 47 00:02:29,467 --> 00:02:30,987 Speaker 2: over the course of the week. It's like there's a 48 00:02:30,987 --> 00:02:34,307 Speaker 2: prude to film watching it in slow motion. This is 49 00:02:34,547 --> 00:02:36,307 Speaker 2: it isn't even nice when a player gets called for 50 00:02:36,627 --> 00:02:39,307 Speaker 2: this sort of thing. What was your the take on it? 51 00:02:40,307 --> 00:02:43,387 Speaker 3: Yes, I just can't see how he can reach the 52 00:02:43,467 --> 00:02:45,747 Speaker 3: Test match level and then something like that all of 53 00:02:45,787 --> 00:02:48,267 Speaker 3: a sudden become an issue. Now Mattie Cernaman has had 54 00:02:48,387 --> 00:02:52,827 Speaker 3: questions around his action before, both domestically here in Australia. 55 00:02:52,987 --> 00:02:56,827 Speaker 3: Domestically here in Australia, I should say, obviously has jumped 56 00:02:57,147 --> 00:02:59,547 Speaker 3: over those turtles whatever's been put in front of him 57 00:02:59,547 --> 00:03:02,307 Speaker 3: because he's been selected to play for Australia. I don't 58 00:03:02,347 --> 00:03:04,907 Speaker 3: get how, all of a sudden then an umpire can 59 00:03:04,907 --> 00:03:08,627 Speaker 3: turn around and go, oh, actually his action looks at 60 00:03:08,667 --> 00:03:11,547 Speaker 3: it dodgy and now this whole cloud comes over his 61 00:03:11,707 --> 00:03:14,907 Speaker 3: entire career again. I think is grossly unfair. Personally, there's 62 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:16,787 Speaker 3: got to be better ways of dealing with this in 63 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:18,907 Speaker 3: the lead up to becoming a Test cricketer, rather than 64 00:03:18,947 --> 00:03:20,747 Speaker 3: getting on that stage and then all of a sudden 65 00:03:20,987 --> 00:03:23,827 Speaker 3: his action being called into question by one of the 66 00:03:23,867 --> 00:03:26,307 Speaker 3: on field umpires. So now he's got to go through 67 00:03:26,347 --> 00:03:29,587 Speaker 3: this whole rigmarole of proving that he doesn't chuck the 68 00:03:29,587 --> 00:03:32,507 Speaker 3: ball by the letter of the law and by the 69 00:03:32,547 --> 00:03:35,107 Speaker 3: angle of his arm and all of that. So, yeah, 70 00:03:35,507 --> 00:03:38,627 Speaker 3: it's a head scratcher administration wise that it can get 71 00:03:38,627 --> 00:03:40,627 Speaker 3: to that. But that's what Maddie Kernerman has got to 72 00:03:40,627 --> 00:03:43,267 Speaker 3: go through now to prove that he doesn't chuck. 73 00:03:43,827 --> 00:03:45,507 Speaker 2: It's one of those things. And I rember the Darryl 74 00:03:45,587 --> 00:03:48,227 Speaker 2: here one with when he noboard Merley Duran and the 75 00:03:49,067 --> 00:03:51,387 Speaker 2: mid nineties. That was huge at the time and it's 76 00:03:51,427 --> 00:03:53,587 Speaker 2: a story that still resonates, what about thirty years on. 77 00:03:54,787 --> 00:03:56,627 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that happened in the middle of a Test 78 00:03:56,627 --> 00:03:58,467 Speaker 3: match and he kept on no balling him instead of 79 00:03:58,467 --> 00:04:01,267 Speaker 3: giving him warnings. Instead it's all like a surprise attack 80 00:04:01,307 --> 00:04:04,307 Speaker 3: on him, which was grossly unfair at that time as well, 81 00:04:04,547 --> 00:04:06,627 Speaker 3: and it was himurely. He was a very young player 82 00:04:06,627 --> 00:04:08,547 Speaker 3: at that time. Went on to have an amazing career, 83 00:04:08,587 --> 00:04:11,827 Speaker 3: so it was obviously all okay how he was bowling, 84 00:04:11,907 --> 00:04:14,667 Speaker 3: but seriously, that was a that was a circus that 85 00:04:14,867 --> 00:04:17,307 Speaker 3: just did not need to happen. And hopefully Matt Kerneman 86 00:04:17,347 --> 00:04:18,707 Speaker 3: can avoid similar sight. 87 00:04:18,747 --> 00:04:21,627 Speaker 2: And look super rugby underway as of last night, the 88 00:04:21,667 --> 00:04:24,347 Speaker 2: waratas getting to win over the Highlanders. It might be 89 00:04:24,427 --> 00:04:26,907 Speaker 2: the year, it might be Australia's year in super rugby. 90 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:31,067 Speaker 3: Finally, yeah, one night, So let's all calm down, but 91 00:04:31,987 --> 00:04:34,427 Speaker 3: it's and they're not the Blues and they're not the 92 00:04:34,507 --> 00:04:36,947 Speaker 3: chiefs the Highlanders, with all due respect to them. A 93 00:04:36,947 --> 00:04:39,467 Speaker 3: bit of a buzz about got to say about rugby 94 00:04:39,867 --> 00:04:42,747 Speaker 3: starting again over here, and I think that is sw 95 00:04:42,987 --> 00:04:47,307 Speaker 3: Lee coming in Joseph, because Lee so the fact that 96 00:04:47,347 --> 00:04:50,947 Speaker 3: he started as a news wires are and played okay 97 00:04:50,987 --> 00:04:54,107 Speaker 3: by all all reports, both very good judges, not just 98 00:04:54,347 --> 00:04:58,107 Speaker 3: people like me who watch it occasionally. So yeah, it's 99 00:04:58,587 --> 00:05:02,467 Speaker 3: it's good that rugby's back well, not on like firmly 100 00:05:02,507 --> 00:05:05,587 Speaker 3: in the spotlight, but getting a bit of a say 101 00:05:05,627 --> 00:05:08,467 Speaker 3: over here. And the back end of last year with 102 00:05:08,547 --> 00:05:11,067 Speaker 3: the spread tours certainly helped. Having a British and Irish 103 00:05:11,147 --> 00:05:14,187 Speaker 3: Lions folded into a World Cup campaign not too far away. 104 00:05:14,707 --> 00:05:19,707 Speaker 3: That'll help and so we'll our super rugby clubs going Okay, 105 00:05:19,907 --> 00:05:22,467 Speaker 3: the Bumbies will be the benchmark again I think for Australia. 106 00:05:23,267 --> 00:05:27,667 Speaker 3: But having all these Melbourne Rebels players having that club 107 00:05:27,707 --> 00:05:31,187 Speaker 3: dissolved and then those players good ones filtering back into 108 00:05:31,187 --> 00:05:34,947 Speaker 3: the other other clubs and their systems has strengthened. So 109 00:05:35,307 --> 00:05:38,627 Speaker 3: hopefully that does strength in Australia's cause on this stage 110 00:05:38,627 --> 00:05:39,227 Speaker 3: against some of you. 111 00:05:39,387 --> 00:05:41,747 Speaker 2: But as I was at the Super Rugby launch in 112 00:05:41,787 --> 00:05:43,987 Speaker 2: Sydney for it for a day last week, Joseph suelite, 113 00:05:44,027 --> 00:05:46,507 Speaker 2: you would have reeled off. I think about twelve interviews 114 00:05:46,907 --> 00:05:49,907 Speaker 2: in a space about three hours. He's twenty one years old, 115 00:05:49,947 --> 00:05:52,307 Speaker 2: but he has a professionalism of a thirty year old. 116 00:05:52,387 --> 00:05:54,107 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be good for rugby in Australia. 117 00:05:54,827 --> 00:05:57,627 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pretty level headed kid. He's got his 118 00:05:57,667 --> 00:06:00,427 Speaker 3: head switched on, which is good and rugby needs that 119 00:06:01,427 --> 00:06:04,427 Speaker 3: needs good players first and foremost, but good people as well, 120 00:06:04,467 --> 00:06:07,227 Speaker 3: and a lot of them are of the rugby boys 121 00:06:07,227 --> 00:06:11,987 Speaker 3: are just good humans. And Joseph because I certainly certainly 122 00:06:11,987 --> 00:06:14,507 Speaker 3: fits that bill and I just you're just wanting to 123 00:06:14,547 --> 00:06:17,867 Speaker 3: have a clear runway health wise and all the good 124 00:06:17,867 --> 00:06:21,107 Speaker 3: players here from Australia because we don't have that layer 125 00:06:21,147 --> 00:06:24,587 Speaker 3: of depth that I reckon you require to consistently get 126 00:06:24,627 --> 00:06:27,387 Speaker 3: results on the international stades against the very good sides. 127 00:06:27,867 --> 00:06:31,267 Speaker 3: But that's what this competition is meant to build and 128 00:06:31,507 --> 00:06:33,707 Speaker 3: hopefully you can continue to go in the right direction 129 00:06:33,747 --> 00:06:35,227 Speaker 3: because it feels like it is in the last couple 130 00:06:35,267 --> 00:06:35,627 Speaker 3: of years. 131 00:06:35,707 --> 00:06:37,867 Speaker 2: Indeed. Well, Adam Peacock, thank you very much for your 132 00:06:37,867 --> 00:06:39,307 Speaker 2: time with you the best luck and we'll catch up 133 00:06:39,307 --> 00:06:40,107 Speaker 2: again next weekend. 134 00:06:40,987 --> 00:06:42,067 Speaker 3: Sounds good. Cheers mate. 135 00:06:42,147 --> 00:06:44,227 Speaker 2: Adam Peacock joining our says he always does around this 136 00:06:44,307 --> 00:06:48,227 Speaker 2: time on a Saturday afternoon, talking all things Australia and sport, 137 00:06:48,267 --> 00:06:51,227 Speaker 2: and no shortage of topics to get stuck into, that 138 00:06:51,347 --> 00:06:54,947 Speaker 2: is for sure with Adam this week. That's Simking is 139 00:06:55,547 --> 00:06:57,747 Speaker 2: of course, plenty of interest on both sides of the 140 00:06:57,747 --> 00:06:59,947 Speaker 2: Tasman here and in the UK. We're reading a whole 141 00:07:00,067 --> 00:07:02,867 Speaker 2: range of perspectives on that matter. 142 00:07:03,507 --> 00:07:06,867 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine Life to 143 00:07:06,987 --> 00:07:10,227 Speaker 1: News Talks It B weekends from midday or follow the 144 00:07:10,227 --> 00:07:11,747 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.