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Speaker 1: Pressing the newspakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplicy Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: New Stork said b.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: the Polkinghorn trial is now focused on Polkinghorn's mistress and hookers.

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Speaker 3: We're going to speak to our reporter who's been in court.

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Speaker 3: The unemployment number is up, but not as high as expected,

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Speaker 3: so Jared kurv Kiwibank will explain what that means for

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Speaker 3: the ocr decision next week. And the Maori ward debate

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Speaker 3: appears to have turned quite ugly, and New Plymouth counselor

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Speaker 3: reckons his car was shot at will speak to the mayor.

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Speaker 3: Heather Duplessy Allen Well, I reckon we're being a little

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Speaker 3: harsh on these canoeing boys. A. I mean, people are

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Speaker 3: getting way too worked up about this. One of the

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Speaker 3: most most outlandish suggestions that I've seen is the one

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Speaker 3: that this is the most embarrassing performance at the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: I mean, get a grip. If this was them, if

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Speaker 3: this was their chosen sport, then yes, absolutely it would

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Speaker 3: be incredibly embarrassing that they are that bad at it.

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Speaker 3: But it's not their chosen sport, is it. They're not canoeists,

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Speaker 3: the kayakers, and they were only doing the canoeing the

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Speaker 3: C two in order to be able to perform in

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Speaker 3: the four man kayaking the K four. It's basically because

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Speaker 3: of a quirk in the rules that they came to

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Speaker 3: be participating in the canoeing. Because what happened is New

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Speaker 3: Zealand wanted to compete in the K four, but we

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Speaker 3: didn't qualify for the K four. But the sports bosses

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Speaker 3: were quite clever and they realized they could still qualify

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Speaker 3: for the K four through a technicality if they got

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Speaker 3: a crew into the Olympics for the C two. This

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Speaker 3: is the canoeing, right so that would automatically give them

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Speaker 3: a K two, a two man kayaking kayaking team going.

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Speaker 3: So the K two crew plus the C two crew

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Speaker 3: That's why the guys were so shocking at the canoeing

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Speaker 3: because they're not actually canoeists. They've only been doing this

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Speaker 3: done a lot better than that. They actually threw the

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Speaker 3: which is the one that they actually care about, and

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Speaker 3: they had to do two of those races in the

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Speaker 3: same day, and that's smart. Why waste your energy doing

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Speaker 3: something you're not any good at when you could preserve

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Speaker 3: it for something you might be good at. And think

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Speaker 3: about the counterfactual. Right, if you're upset about this, are

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Speaker 3: you seriously suggesting that the sports bosses, knowing full well

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Speaker 3: which is their sport, should have said, nah, nah, we

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Speaker 3: AM not going to do it because I don't because

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Speaker 3: for whatever dumb reason not going to do it. Come on,

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Speaker 3: would we really have preferred the bosses didn't send our

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Speaker 2: Heather duplessy Ellen, I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Darcy Waldgrave will have an opinion on that, and just

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Speaker 3: a Texas standby for that. Right now. It's ten past four,

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Speaker 3: on it. Obviously. On another subject, the Chief Onboodsman has

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Speaker 3: when children face either disciplinary action or you know, have

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Speaker 3: decisions on enrollment ahead of them. Saint Peter's College board

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Speaker 3: Kashmir High School had declined enrollment for an out of

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Speaker 3: well enough to the parents. Now the on Boodsman is

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Speaker 3: Chief Onwardsman Peter bowches with us. Now, hey Peter, good

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Speaker 3: afternoon here though, okay, on Saint Peter's is the problem

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Speaker 4: Can I say this by way of introducing this to

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Speaker 4: We'll do what we want. I just don't think that's

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Speaker 3: It no fair enough. So they wouldn't communicate with you

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Speaker 4: Well, they would that they refuse to engage and give

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Speaker 4: any good reason why they wouldn't adopt my recommendation. So look,

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Speaker 4: we go through a process of investigating, We form a view,

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Speaker 4: accountain can often reformed that our view. They just wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Was your recommendation well in that case there it.

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Speaker 4: Was mostly in relation to their form of communication, which

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Speaker 4: we felt was this is to the parents, which was

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Speaker 4: just not on. We recommended that they apologize for all

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Speaker 4: of the inadequacies in the way they went about it.

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Speaker 4: We recommended that the student's disciplinary record be amended and

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Speaker 4: a board, when it's doing a decision like this, should

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Speaker 4: have a clear process, should articulate it and abide by

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Speaker 4: it so that it won't have again in the future.

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Speaker 4: We didn't interfere whether it's decision to exclude. What we

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Speaker 4: said was you've got to let parents know what you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, okay, and Kashmi high same problem. Not

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Speaker 3: enough communication with the parents.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I just don't know what's so wrong worth

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Speaker 4: failing to apologize. It's not that difficult. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I find in this job what most people really want

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Speaker 4: to have their mana restored. And I think if the

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Speaker 4: right now. And what we're wanting to do with this

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Speaker 3: Peter, thank you very much, really appreciate it. That's Peter Bosher,

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Speaker 3: who is the chief on boodsman. Now St. Peter's College

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Speaker 3: agreed to two of the recommendations, but the board will

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Speaker 3: not apologize for excluding the student. And the headmaster, James

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Speaker 5: Well, basically, the board Beliezer made the right decision. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that it was a serious matter, and so they made

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Speaker 3: What about okay, and what about what Peter was saying

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Speaker 3: that you guys basically thumbed your nose at his recommendations.

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Speaker 5: Can I just go back a little bit on that.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little bit surprised at what he said. We

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Speaker 5: we spent two years engaging with the on boodsman and

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Speaker 5: it's been back and forward for two years. We'd certainly

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Speaker 5: explained our reasons for why we wouldn't apologize, And look,

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Speaker 5: can I just say, look, we understand that there are

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Speaker 5: some people in society who don't see marijuana as in

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Speaker 5: schools is a big deal these days. But our boarder trustees,

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Speaker 5: who represents our community, they saw it as a serious

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Speaker 3: And did you communicate with the parents properly?

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Speaker 5: Yes, we did. We believe we did.

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Speaker 3: What did you do that the Onwoodsman reckons you didn't do.

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Speaker 5: One of the things he said was that in our

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Speaker 5: The board was to keep more accurate notes in their

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Speaker 5: other thing which he asked for was for the decision

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Speaker 5: comply with that. So those two we did agree with.

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Speaker 5: But the board said that they would not be apologizing

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's a reasonably big deal for Peter

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Speaker 7: What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're a little bit surprised, and you know, marijuana

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Speaker 5: I hold the view as many schools do, if not

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Speaker 3: James, thank you very much for having a chat to us.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. James Bentleys and Peter's college headmaster.

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Speaker 3: Back to the Olympics. The Algerian boxer at the center

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duplicy Ellen

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand one give Leap for business

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Speaker 1: US talks'd.

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Speaker 3: Be Darcy water Grave sports talk hosters with me right now. Hey, Darce,

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Speaker 3: I'm expecting you to come in hot with your opinions

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Speaker 8: Means to an end, that's what it was.

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Speaker 9: Sur It's pretty It's pretty simple for me that they

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Speaker 9: found an opportunity to qualify the K four get the

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Speaker 9: rollers there that they wanted. The rollers knew, the kayakers new,

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Speaker 9: three months of training, they were going to get stone cold, moveless.

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Speaker 2: They knew that they were.

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Speaker 3: Under nassy illusion. There wasn't like two meters between us

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Speaker 3: a high five right now? You really yeah, because you

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Speaker 3: know what I think is going on here. We have

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Speaker 3: got a complex in this country about needing to overperform,

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Speaker 3: and anytime somebody does like, it's all like so embarrassing

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Speaker 3: for us. We're taking this person no deculous.

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Speaker 9: There are the guys in the canoe. They're probably not

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Speaker 9: feeling great about it, but they knew. That's not like

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Speaker 9: they went, oh wow, we're getting flogged by hundreds of meat,

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Speaker 9: in a four later on, and that's what you want.

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Speaker 9: I looked at it when it was not ideal, But

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Speaker 9: Old, it wasn't even them that did it. The qualified

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Speaker 8: They didn't even thrash.

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Speaker 9: Well, and there was also a fifty year old thinking

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Speaker 9: Look, they found a reason, they found a way to

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Speaker 9: exploit the laws. Maybe that's not the best word exploitation.

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Speaker 9: I suppose at a higher level you look at the

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Speaker 3: No, I'm going to ask you whether they're going to

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Speaker 9: The K four just sneaked in, just sneaked in.

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Speaker 8: They sneaked in. Look I don't, I'm not.

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Speaker 9: There's no faux outrage from me. There's no people lose.

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Speaker 9: People come last and they new I mean you look

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Speaker 3: Good times.

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Speaker 9: You know the Jamaican Bob Slid team, they knew it

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Speaker 3: All of the other guys that you've mentioned are guys

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Speaker 9: There's an argument that says that that was their chosen

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about what's coming up. Over so much good,

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Speaker 3: It surprised quite a few people that she picked Tim

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Speaker 12: There's also the fact he's Jewish, and although he has

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Speaker 3: Are we living in that kind of society now where

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Speaker 3: apparently it's absolutely fine for us to just say out loud, no,

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Speaker 3: he's Jewish. Now, you can't pick him because he's your

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Speaker 3: understand that we've got ourselves into a wicky little place

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Speaker 3: dam Mitchensen's going to be with us shortly and talk

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 2: Neither dup to c Allen drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Right, Barry sobers with us in politics in ten minutes time.

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Speaker 3: These are the unemployment numbers, the ones that we got

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Speaker 3: So the reason people love her is the same reason

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be drive so over on in the States. On

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Speaker 2: We just gotta fight.

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Speaker 10: We just gotta fight because as soon to be President

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Speaker 3: We fight, we were. One of the reasons she'll have

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Speaker 2: Well, it's true.

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Speaker 8: These guys are just weird and it is you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yah Sinoir has been chosen as the new overall

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Speaker 3: And finally.

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Speaker 2: He's right.

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Speaker 3: Two sharks and in the Querium and Italy have proven

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Speaker 3: Or how does that work?

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Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 3: Scientists have learned from this that hound sharks can reproduce

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Speaker 3: Jan Mitchinson, US correspondence with US Now, Hey Dan.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Heather.

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Speaker 3: So what do you make of Tim Waltz?

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Speaker 10: Well, I make the fact that he is the same

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Speaker 2: They're both sixty? Can you believe that?

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Speaker 3: and I thought, Jays, you're unlucky Tim.

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Speaker 10: big union supporter, and I think really what Kamala Harris

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Speaker 10: was looking for, and she didn't know a lot about

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Speaker 10: him until this weekend that one on one meeting, sat down.

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Speaker 10: Liked a lot of what he brought, liked the fact

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Speaker 10: that he's been going after Trump, and thinks that he

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Speaker 10: will help her across the Midwest. But what insiders have

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Speaker 10: said is that they just clicked and that was really

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Speaker 10: important to her, you know, and it has to be

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Speaker 10: when you're going to be spending that much time possibly

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Speaker 10: with somebody, and certainly over the next you know, three

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Speaker 10: months or so.

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Speaker 3: She vibed with him, didn't she. And one of the

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Speaker 3: things that he is probably most notable for is that

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Speaker 3: he actually started the thing that the Democrats now regularly use,

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Speaker 3: which is saying Republicans are weird? Didn't he He did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of had the.

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Speaker 3: Nail on the hate though, because they are a bit,

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Speaker 3: haven't they?

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Speaker 10: Well they are, I mean, both both sides are, and

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Speaker 10: it's going to be interesting to see if he gets

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Speaker 10: to a chance to debate JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance.

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Speaker 10: I think he's got a lot more experience, and quite honestly,

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Speaker 10: I think Vance has been a little bit of a

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Speaker 10: disappointment to two Republicans. Republicans don't like this guy. They

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Speaker 10: think he's way too much to the left. They think

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Speaker 10: he's a socialist. So we'll see how this works out

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Speaker 10: for Kamalay Harris.

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Speaker 3: Well, what are the policies that he's done for.

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Speaker 10: Well, he's done a lot with child tax credits over here,

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Speaker 10: and gun safety and access to reproductive health, so all

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Speaker 10: the things that the Democrats like, all the things that

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Speaker 10: Kamala Harris has been talking about across and he's just

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Speaker 10: down to earth, quite honestly. I mean, before he got

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Speaker 10: into politics, he was a teacher, he was a football coach.

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Speaker 10: I mean one of the first things I read about

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Speaker 10: him when it came out was he's got this affinity

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Speaker 10: for diet mountain dew. And I thought, well, of all

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Speaker 10: the things to put in the first couple of sentences

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Speaker 10: about a guy that's running for vice president is this,

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Speaker 10: And that's about as Midwest as you can get.

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Speaker 3: I think, Hey, how much a Snoop Dog getting paid

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Speaker 3: for being over at the Olympics.

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Speaker 10: Well, according to your producer, not enough, because he is

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Speaker 10: the star of the Olympics. Actually, about five hundred thousand

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Speaker 10: dollars a day is what y a day? Is what

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Speaker 10: some are saying that he's getting for being a correspondent

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Speaker 10: for NBC and Petecock.

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Speaker 2: And whether or not that is true, I.

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Speaker 10: Mean, he's adding a lot of color to the commentary.

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Speaker 10: He's been getting big hits on social media. He's brought

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Speaker 10: some laughs to the Olympics. He's covering all these different

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Speaker 10: kinds of sports, and he's helping them rake in the money.

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Speaker 10: They've already brought in over a billion dollars in advertising

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Speaker 10: and that is just the most amount that they have

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Speaker 10: ever seen for an Olympics game here and they're still

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Speaker 10: selling ads too.

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Speaker 3: Hey well how about that for and especially given that

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Speaker 3: he will be doing it wall stoned, that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 10: I Well, I mean, let me ask you this, when

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Speaker 10: you've seen Snoop, can you tell the difference putween when

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Speaker 10: he is and when he is?

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Speaker 3: Oh, because he's never not, He's always I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: as a constant state of debriation. Hey, so Matthew Perry's death.

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Speaker 3: Now there are some reports that suggested the charges are

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Speaker 3: only days away, they're coming any day. Who are they

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Speaker 3: looking to charge.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's the question that we're trying to figure out

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Speaker 10: right now, because they haven't said now there are as

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Speaker 10: soon as you get a leak like this, you know

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Speaker 10: that somebody is going to come out of TMZ, a

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Speaker 10: British tabloid, one of the entertainment shows. The question is

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Speaker 10: is this a name person, somebody that Perry knew, a

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Speaker 10: Hollywood colleague. Is it one of his doctors that prescribed

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Speaker 10: these medications or is it just someone off the street

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Speaker 10: who provided the drugs? And I got to tell you here, Heather,

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Speaker 10: in California, there's been a big push, a big mandate

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Speaker 10: to go after drug dealers like this with the overdoses

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Speaker 10: and this was you know, ketamine and drowning that happened

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Speaker 10: almost a year ago. So this has been an investigation

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Speaker 10: that's been going on since I think back in almost

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Speaker 10: December right now, and you know, if we're to believe

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Speaker 10: what they're saying, we may find out who is behind

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Speaker 10: this before weeks.

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Speaker 3: Und Dan, thank you very much, appreciate it. Dan Mitchinson

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Speaker 3: are us corresponding here?

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Speaker 17: There?

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Speaker 3: Are you aware that Karmala Harris's husband is actually Jewish?

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Speaker 3: And thank you? Yes, he's actually the first Jewish spouse.

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Speaker 3: The problem isn't so much with that, because I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure that that report was necessarily accurate. Like we don't

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Speaker 3: actually have any proof that Carmela didn't pick the guy

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Speaker 3: because he's Jewish. It's the fact that a correspondent thinks

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Speaker 3: it's an okay thing to say, how wacky are you?

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Speaker 17: Like?

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Speaker 3: Whow Anyway, the public sector we need to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: This is the unemployment numbers that have come out today

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Speaker 3: on all the wage data and stuff. The public sector,

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Speaker 3: it turns out, are making the dollars making the dollars.

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Speaker 3: So the rest of us, on average, our ordinary time

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Speaker 3: earling earnings are now, according to the official figures, forty

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Speaker 3: one dollars and fifty two cents, right, the public sector

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Speaker 3: forty nine dollars and fifty six cents. That's a lot more.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's like I'm doing a very rough calculation,

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Speaker 3: but it's like twenty five percent more, right, twenty five

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Speaker 3: percent more. That is why the public sector needs a

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Speaker 3: good going over, because I'm not really sure why the

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Speaker 3: taxpayer who pays for the public sector should get paid

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Speaker 3: less than the public sector that they get paid that

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Speaker 3: they're paid for. You don't you follow what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these people just expect to earn too much,

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Speaker 3: so do them over do a little trimming in there.

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Speaker 3: I'm down for that, Which is what's happening quarter.

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Speaker 1: To politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certainty Barry so Per, senior political correspondence with US Now Barry, Hello,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon, Aty. What is dipping out of We're pack

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Speaker 3: a set in the house?

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Speaker 18: Ah well, I find it extraordinary actually, and when I

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Speaker 18: sat and listened to it, I've got to say my

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Speaker 18: blood boiled. I thought, with John Key at the weekend

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Speaker 18: talking about tempering it down the divisions and society, She's

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Speaker 18: just turned the heat right up. It's the sort of

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Speaker 18: speech that in my view, insights and even the speaker

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Speaker 18: Jerry Browne at the end of it, he was asked

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Speaker 18: by ACT to review it and he said he will be.

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Speaker 18: Here's part of Parker's contribution.

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Speaker 19: This a know how has ACT groomed the Prime Minister

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Speaker 19: and indeed national into deliberately exercising ethno side. It is

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Speaker 19: the deliberate, systemic destruction of our culture and us as

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Speaker 19: Tanga Taquenua, using legislative power, political force and influence two

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Speaker 19: make us into one. They're one and our nun This

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Speaker 19: government has been led by a dark triad.

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Speaker 3: And let me explain what that means.

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Speaker 19: Three personality traits, the macavelian, the psychopath, and the narcissist.

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Speaker 19: And I'll get you to guess which ones which the manipulative,

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Speaker 19: extremely entitled.

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Speaker 3: And lack empathy.

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Speaker 19: But together those traits are dangerous for our people because

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Speaker 19: together they create some of the cruelest social chaos ever

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Speaker 19: known to Indigenous people.

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Speaker 18: Unbelievable. I mean, you know, if you take those words

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Speaker 18: and wasn't that was just part of the speech. If

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Speaker 18: you listen to the whole speech, I mean, it is

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Speaker 18: simply outrageous that it's allowed to happen in a party.

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Speaker 3: Why is Brownie having to review it? Was he not

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Speaker 3: in the house at the time, he.

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Speaker 18: Was there, but he sat there and listened. And certainly

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Speaker 18: Brook van Valden, she's stood up at the end of

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Speaker 18: it and she said she didn't want to interrupt because

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Speaker 18: let Packer sound off. And then she pleaded with the

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Speaker 18: speaker to just review what had been said.

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Speaker 3: On what grounds would he review, Well, he would have

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Speaker 3: to have.

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Speaker 18: A look at the language. I would suspect and you

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Speaker 18: know what, what category does it fall into. I mean,

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Speaker 18: in my view, this is hate speech and it's nothing

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Speaker 18: short of that. It's it's inciting moldy people to she

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Speaker 18: talked about ethnicide.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at the very least, she is not doing

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Speaker 3: anything to assist amicable race relations, right, She's whipping out

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Speaker 3: That's what the That's what the party is known for,

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Speaker 3: hasn't it.

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Speaker 18: Well maybe it is, but I think you know, to

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Speaker 18: say what she said in parliament, I honestly, in all

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Speaker 18: my time there, I've never heard the likes of a

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Speaker 18: speech like that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thanks stuff think it's pretty dangerous. Samon Brown's had

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Speaker 3: a crack at the energy crisis. What is he here

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Speaker 3: to say?

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Speaker 2: Well, he has.

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Speaker 18: He said it certainly is a crisis facing the country

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Speaker 18: at the moment he was speaking. This afternoon. He summoned

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Speaker 18: the four main supply Gen Taylors to a meeting today.

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Speaker 18: He told Parliament that the energy sector is in crisis

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Speaker 18: and he cheted the blame back to the last government's

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Speaker 18: decision to immediate decision it was on taking the Treasury

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Speaker 18: benchures to stop exploration for gas and oil. He says

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Speaker 18: that's led to an explosion in electricity prices.

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Speaker 20: New Zealanders are now paying the highest electricity prices in

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Speaker 20: the western world. Just this morning, the spot price in

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Speaker 20: Northland reached over one seven hundred dollars per mega wattow

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Speaker 20: must to speaker, after stifling investment in the gas sector,

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Speaker 20: after increasing our sovereign risk as a country, they're threatening

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Speaker 20: the viability of New Zealand businesses, many of whom export

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Speaker 20: products to the world, and the jobs they underpin. We've

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Speaker 20: seen that in recent days we announcement several hundred job

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Speaker 20: losses at Winstone Pulp and at OG's Penrose facility. High

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Speaker 20: electricity prices have been cited on both occasions.

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Speaker 18: It's a real issue, isn't it. It's a real problem.

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Speaker 18: The consumer, that's the household, haven't felt the impact of

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Speaker 18: it yet, but by goodness, it's coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, So what did he say to the gent tailors, Well.

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Speaker 18: He didn't say in parliament what he said to them,

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Speaker 18: But what.

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Speaker 3: Can the gent tailors do about it? I mean they

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Speaker 3: this is not to pass.

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Speaker 18: They have to pass on prices in the end.

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Speaker 3: We are they supposed to make a loss now, are they?

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Speaker 20: Well?

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Speaker 18: It's a bit like banks, isn't it? No doubt? He's

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Speaker 18: saying to the gent Taylors, you're doing pretty well out

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Speaker 18: of society at the moment in New Zealand. Can you

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Speaker 18: be a little softer than otherwise you mightez?

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Speaker 3: I mean they have to be careful. I mean, clearly

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Speaker 3: labor has made this issue a lot worse, but the

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Speaker 3: nets have to be really careful that they don't make

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Speaker 3: another Well.

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Speaker 18: I can't dictake to business just as my competid dictate

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Speaker 18: to the banks in this country.

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Speaker 3: Are they all right?

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Speaker 16: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Listen Berry, thank you appreciate. It's Barry so for senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondent coming up eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 21: Because new mari Ward law is playing at a council

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Speaker 21: level around the country as we speak.

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Speaker 8: In the mayor up north is Craig Gypsum? Who is

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Speaker 8: with us? Are you here kicking and screaming as a

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Speaker 8: council In other words, you wouldn't have done what the

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Speaker 8: central government has done.

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Speaker 13: Well I should have writed that. Singer and Brown said

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Speaker 13: that it was a return to democracycause I believe it was.

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Speaker 13: And when I ran the petition back in twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: before and then I retrospectively changed the law and I

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Speaker 13: had a very strong mandate of eight eight percent of

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Speaker 13: my voters here for signing the petition.

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Speaker 7: They didn't want the Mary Awards.

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Speaker 8: You can't argue about the democracy thing, can you.

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Speaker 21: I mean, what Mahuta did was undemocratic, and what councils

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Speaker 21: do if they don't ask people is undemocratic.

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Speaker 22: Oh, that's correct.

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Speaker 21: Back tomorrow at six am the mic asking, Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: the rain Drover, the laugh News talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Here there is a pastor the coach. Your argument about

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Speaker 3: the C two the canoeing doesn't convince me. Paddling in

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Speaker 3: front of the world like that is an embarrassment. That's

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Speaker 3: from Brian. We've got the chair of canoe Racing New

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Speaker 3: Zealand who would have been involved in the decision to

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Speaker 3: send these guys over there. He'll be with us in

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes time. Can not wait to speak to him

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Speaker 3: or the polkinghorn Cases has finally got to the mistress

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Speaker 3: and the escorts and the hawkers and stuff like that. Right,

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Speaker 3: don't pretend that we're not interested in this stuff, because

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Speaker 3: frankly we are. So today they've heard about how they

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Speaker 3: the police executed a search warrant on the mistress who

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Speaker 3: I think is an escort actually in her day job,

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Speaker 3: Madison Ashton, that's a good name anyway, So she and

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Speaker 3: Polkinghorn were at the Mount Cook Lakeside retreat at the

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Speaker 3: time when the cops came and they took her phone.

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Speaker 3: They seized the phone as part of the search warrant,

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Speaker 3: but then they found out there was a second phone,

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Speaker 3: and then they were told actually that phone is her

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Speaker 3: work phone, but they took it anyway, and then they

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Speaker 3: asked Madison Ashton to provide the pin numbers for the phones,

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Speaker 3: but she didn't want to provide the pin numbers, and

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Speaker 3: she was asked again and she refused, and so it

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Speaker 3: was a little bit of a difficult situation for the coppers.

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Speaker 3: So anyhow, we're going to talk to Chelsea Daniels, who's

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Speaker 3: been in court all day for that in the whole

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Speaker 3: way through and she'll give us the latest on it.

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Speaker 3: Before we have a chat to Jared Kerr of Kiwi

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Speaker 3: Bank about whether we are going to get a rate

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Speaker 3: cut next week because, as I said earlier, the unemployment

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Speaker 3: rates come in and suggested it's not looking too good

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Speaker 3: for that. Also a little bit more on what's going

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Speaker 3: on with the markets. Uber reported its second quarter result

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Speaker 3: last night and obviously people loved what they saw because

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Speaker 3: the shares were up eleven percent, which is nothing to

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Speaker 3: be sneezed at. Deborah Lamby of Milford Asset Management, have

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Speaker 3: a chat to us closer to half past six, around

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Speaker 3: about six twenty five and give us the details of

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Speaker 3: that sort of plenty to get through in the show

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Speaker 3: News talksz'db thucking.

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Speaker 2: Nost me when you're on a beans bed making you crazy?

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Speaker 1: Are you banging down me? Are you bang down me?

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Speaker 2: Are you thanking bown me?

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather due to the Elam.

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Speaker 1: Drive with One New Zealand, Let's get connected and news talk.

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Speaker 2: As said, be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. The polking Horn trial has turned to Philip

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Speaker 3: Polkinghorn's relationships with sex workers. Now he's accused of murdering

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Speaker 3: his wife, Pauline Hannah in twenty twenty one, while his

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Speaker 3: defense says she took her own life. Chelsea Daniels has

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Speaker 3: been covering the trial. She's with us now, how Chelse? I?

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Speaker 3: What was this morning's evidence?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 23: Day eight featured evidence from Detective Senior Sergeant Lisa Jane Anderson.

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Speaker 23: Now she went to Mount Cook where Polkinghorn and his

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Speaker 23: girlfriend Madison Ashton was staying after Hannah's death about April thirty.

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Speaker 23: For those who have been following along, Ashton is a

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Speaker 23: Sydney based sex worker. Now Anderson arrived at Mount Cook

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Speaker 23: Lakeside Retreat at about seven on April thirtieth. A white

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Speaker 23: Toyota polkinghorned hired, was parked out the front of a

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Speaker 23: standalone unit there. Anderson was there with two other christ

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Speaker 23: Church detectives to seize Madison Ashton's phones, which were then

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Speaker 23: handed over to digital forensic units in christ Church.

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Speaker 24: She declined to provide the pin numbers. Pogginhorn in prison

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Speaker 24: at that point, Yes, he was. What happened after she

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Speaker 24: refused to supply the pin numbers?

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Speaker 13: She was asked a king?

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Speaker 24: He refused to king there what happened?

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Speaker 3: What did we hear in the afternoon?

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Speaker 23: Well, the Crown called Rob Masters. He was living in

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Speaker 23: a unit in Northcote Point, a block of about twelve

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Speaker 23: apartments there on the north shore known as Melrose Court.

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Speaker 23: Now Masters noticed a white Mercedes with the number plate

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Speaker 23: Aret Ina Retna. He first saw the car about twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 23: and it visited the complex on a weekly basis, sometimes

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Speaker 23: more frequently the that Over time he came to recognize

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Speaker 23: the man who drove that car. He met him a

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Speaker 23: couple of times on the driveway where he trained clients.

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Speaker 24: Did you learn of the individual's name? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 24: What was that Philip Polkinghorn? And how did you come

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Speaker 24: to learn of his name?

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Speaker 17: He was introduced at one of our agms as Philip

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Speaker 17: John something along those lines.

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Speaker 24: I can't remember where there is surname.

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Speaker 17: And then obviously during the media attention right once his

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Speaker 17: wife had been had passed away.

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Speaker 23: The woman who lived at the complex was named rachel

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Speaker 23: or Alaria. She used both names now. She was in

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Speaker 23: her early to mid fifties, long blondish, grayish hair. A

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Speaker 23: polking Horn would visit a bag, usually in tow. Masters

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Speaker 23: saw some bottles of champagne, women's clothing. Perhaps it would

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Speaker 23: never be a farmer's bag. Though, or something like that.

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Speaker 23: He said that they were fancy bags. He described him

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Speaker 23: as being well dressed. He'd seen him once wearing his

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Speaker 23: scrubs like the ones a doctor would wear. He said,

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Speaker 23: Rachel or A Laria would have a couple of other

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Speaker 23: regular visitors, but none as frequent as the white Mercedes

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Speaker 23: with the number plate Retina. He disappeared during the COVID lockdowns.

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Speaker 23: Now Brian Dickie asked masters what his neighbor Rachel did

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Speaker 23: for work.

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Speaker 24: My understanding is that Rachel was a sex worker.

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Speaker 23: After Hannah's death, the neighbor noticed the car with the

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Speaker 23: number plate RETA vanished.

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Speaker 3: And the court was also shown video of Pulkinghorn's police interview.

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Speaker 3: Weren't they Yeah, It's about three hours long.

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Speaker 23: He jumps around from topic to topic, detailing things like

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Speaker 23: the couple's beach house, an argument that had about staining there,

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Speaker 23: the the episode of New Amsterdam they'd watched the night before,

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Speaker 23: and Hannah's work in general. He goes through the morning

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Speaker 23: he found his wife as well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chelsea. Appreciate Chelsea Daniels has been in court

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Speaker 3: for us, and you can hear more from Chelsea about

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Speaker 3: this on the Herald's podcast accused the Polkinghorn.

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Speaker 2: Trial together do for see Elen.

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Speaker 3: The unemployment rate has risen to four point six. It's

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Speaker 3: slightly better than most forecasters had predicted. At four point seven.

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Speaker 3: It's bang in line with the Reserve Banks for forecast.

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Speaker 3: Jared kurz Ki, Banks chief economist, Hey, Jared, Hey, Right,

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Speaker 3: this is this has hit the young ones particularly hard,

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Speaker 3: as it always does, isn't it.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, it has.

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Speaker 16: We've seen a list of unemployment and unfortunately it's the

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Speaker 16: younger people who have been hit first.

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Speaker 3: Wage inflation though still going up. That's a good thing

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Speaker 3: for people, isn't it.

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Speaker 24: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 16: But then if you ask them, you know, are you

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Speaker 16: working enough? Saying no, we want more hours. So the

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Speaker 16: under utilization rate rose. So people are working, but they're

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Speaker 16: just not getting the hours they want. How much longer

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Speaker 16: that's a reflection Sorry.

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Speaker 3: No, carry on.

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Speaker 16: I was just going to say, and that's a reflection

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Speaker 16: of you know, firms cutting hours rather than heads at

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Speaker 16: the stage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we we aren't nowhere near where we're

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Speaker 3: going with the unemployment rate. So how much longer have

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Speaker 3: we got for this thing to kind of play out?

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Speaker 24: Oh?

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Speaker 16: We've got another year, the unemployment rate does lag what's

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Speaker 16: happening in the economy. Businesses do hold on to workers

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Speaker 16: for as long as they can, So we think the

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Speaker 16: unemployment rate keeps lifting for the rest of this year

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Speaker 16: and into next, and it'll end up around five point

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Speaker 16: two five point three percent.

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Speaker 3: What do you think this means for the decision next

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Speaker 3: week on the official cash rate?

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Speaker 16: Look, I recommend the central Bank cut rates next week.

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Speaker 16: And I say that because we've seen enough in the

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Speaker 16: data to be confident that inflation's not only going to

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Speaker 16: be below three percent this year, but it'll be back

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Speaker 16: to two percent next year. And when they set policy today,

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Speaker 16: they're actually setting policy for the end of next year.

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Speaker 16: That's how long it takes to feed through. So cut

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Speaker 16: now for relief next year.

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Speaker 3: Jared, what about the immediate reaction though? I mean, at

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Speaker 3: the minute that they can't, people are going to feel

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Speaker 3: freer and start to spend. It might not be massive,

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Speaker 3: but it will change our attitudes, right, So could it

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Speaker 3: potentially fire up the inflation.

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Speaker 16: Just to weave it oh a little bit? And I

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Speaker 16: think that's kind of what we want. The economy has

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Speaker 16: been in recession for nearly two years. I think it

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Speaker 16: is time to try and lift people's heads. I think

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Speaker 16: it is time to try and boost confidence, get people investing,

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Speaker 16: get people looking for growth again. You know, business is

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Speaker 16: are shell shocked and they keep saying that they're trying

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Speaker 16: to survive until twenty five. And I don't like that mindset.

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Speaker 16: I want people lifting their heads again and looking for growth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jared, listen, Thank you very much. Always appreciated. Jared Kirkie,

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Speaker 3: We Banks Chief Economists ever do prosal Chris Luxon has

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Speaker 3: handled this drama over Paul Goldsmith Terrell invitation thing. I

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Speaker 3: reckon about the best way he could. Now, if you

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Speaker 3: haven't caught up on this, tv Z ran a story

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Speaker 3: last night revealing that there was a matti key invitation

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Speaker 3: that was going to be sent to an Aussie politician.

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Speaker 3: But then Paul Goldsmith intervened and he told the public

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Speaker 3: servants to take out all the Maori words and replace

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Speaker 3: it with English words like deer whoever kind regards Paul,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, Luxelan was asked about it

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Speaker 3: today in the House and he said, this is the

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Speaker 3: reason why they did that.

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Speaker 26: The correspondence was being directed to an Australian Minister overseas

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Speaker 26: and what I'd say to you in my dealings with Australians,

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Speaker 26: it's always pays to be incredibly simple and clear and

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Speaker 26: use English.

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Speaker 8: Supplementary.

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Speaker 24: Good to see him leading by example.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you got to handle that gun and nonsense.

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Speaker 3: see Allen coming up eighteen past five hours we've been

881
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: discussing on the show. The Kiwi canoeists at the Olympics

882
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: have caused quite a stir with their performance, which was

883
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: pretty bad. They finished about a minute later than all

884
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: the other boats in the C two five hundred overnight

885
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: because neither of them are actually any good at the event,

886
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: they were so far behind the pack our commentator Malcolm

887
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: Jordan thought they dropped out of the race.

888
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 18: My apologies, they didn't pull out.

889
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: They are now crossing the line now.

890
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 21: They were so far behind the action I lost complete

891
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 21: sight of them.

892
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: Greg Adlam is the chair of Canoe Racing New Zealand

893
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: with us. Now, Hey Greg, hi, here there are you?

894
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: Oh Greg, you sound deflated, Not at all.

895
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 11: No, the water sports have been fantastic and the characters

896
00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 11: are going fantastic.

897
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well they are right now, do you reckon?

898
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: People are being rough a little rough on these two guys,

899
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: given they're not actually there to canoe, they're there to

900
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: kayak and they just have to canoe in order to

901
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: be able to kayak.

902
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 11: It's probably an understanding of the selection process if I

903
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 11: maybe that may help outline why they're padding the.

904
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 6: Way they are.

905
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 11: And that's about when we're trying to qualify for Olympics.

906
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 11: In the year Pride Olympics World Championships, we're trying to

907
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 11: qualify as many seats as we can at those, which

908
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 11: is for the men, there's six kayaking men, six kayaking

909
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 11: women six but similarly, if we were to have a

910
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 11: sea boat program, it'd be six in each of those.

911
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 11: As a result of World Championships last year, we qualified

912
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 11: four women and zero men. So you come back to

913
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 11: Oceani your Agana and we qualified two more women out

914
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 11: of that to get out six, and we're able to

915
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 11: qualify three men. But we're also able to do which

916
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 11: we did, which was to qualify in the canoe discipline

917
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 11: the two and in the kayak discipline two. We're able

918
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 11: to under the rules, put those two together to make

919
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 11: up our K four for the men, which we did

920
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 11: as the K four men was seven fastest in the

921
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 11: world last year. But what we must do is we've

922
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 11: got to line up in the K boat and the

923
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 11: sea boat. And so what these two lads have done

924
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 11: is a tremendously good job in a very very difficult boat,

925
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 11: tremendously tippy. I've tried one once and all I did

926
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 11: was fell out of it. So these guys have done

927
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 11: a great job in skillect position and being able to

928
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 11: paddle that boat up the course and acknowledging what your

929
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 11: commentator said. The commentator on the television outlined it pretty well.

930
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 11: They said, you know, it's one thing for kayakers to

931
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Speaker 11: get into a canoe boat and to paddle it, but

932
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 11: it's another one to actually lay down power to get

933
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Speaker 11: it up to course. And that's the phase that we're

934
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Speaker 11: out now, and we're looking for these boat and it's

935
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Speaker 11: disciplined to be something for us for New Zealand and

936
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Speaker 11: canar racing and potentially not the next Olympic cycle maybe,

937
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 11: but certainly the one after for Brisbane. So it's a

938
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Speaker 11: start and it's a really really strong start and I

939
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 11: think what they're doing is is tremendous. They are really

940
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Speaker 11: displaying a new avenue of sport for New Zealand and

941
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Speaker 11: at internationally. It hasn't readily been available to this some time, so.

942
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Speaker 3: There's been a little bit of criticism of you guys

943
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: for using this technicality in the loophole to get in.

944
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: Is that fair?

945
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 11: The rules are there and we've we acknowledged and as

946
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 11: has and has been there for some time. And we're

947
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Speaker 11: not the first country to take this path, and depending

948
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Speaker 11: on what the International New Federation, so we may be

949
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 11: the last. I don't know, but at the moment, the

950
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 11: rules are there and we've used those rules to get

951
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Speaker 11: our K four through.

952
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: The lad's okay, because I mean they are copying it, right.

953
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: Have you checked in on them?

954
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, yep, yep. They're in really good spirit, actually really

955
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 11: good spirit, and I think you saw that on the

956
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 11: start line. You know, Max is a is a pretty

957
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 11: a pretty how do you the best describe it?

958
00:44:59,719 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 7: Isn't?

959
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 11: He's a great lad and he's very happy to show

960
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 11: a very happy emotion, which was good. And Grant's similar

961
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 11: behind him and pretty stoked to be able to do this.

962
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 11: And Grant is also as already said, you know, postal

963
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 11: them that she'd like to be able to take this

964
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 11: around the country to demonstrate to other people how cool

965
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 11: the support it is.

966
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about making other people sit on that boat

967
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: and see how it goes for them? Hey, Greg, thank

968
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: you very much. Greg Adlam Canoe Racing New Zealand board

969
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: chair see nothing to worry about is all part of

970
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: the plan five twenty two.

971
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

972
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplessy Allen drive with fun New Zealand. Let's

973
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: get connected and news talk as they'd be hither.

974
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: The rules also allowed the Australian cricketers to underarm bowl ray.

975
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: Is that the same thing? I mean, the Ossies used

976
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: a rule to win a game unfairly. We just used

977
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 3: a rule to get into the game and now we're

978
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 3: playing fair, aren't we. So I don't think it's the

979
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: same five twenty five anyway, Listen, this power situation is

980
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 3: getting worse. Got another business just today closing down because

981
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: of the cost of energy. It's og Fiber Solutions. This

982
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: is a paper and recycling plant in Penrose, Auckland. They've

983
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: said they're closing because the energy costs have approximately doubled

984
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: in the last year and are still skyrocketing, and that

985
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: means seventy five people in Auckland are going to lose

986
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: their jobs. Yesterday we had the Windstone Pulp and timber mills,

987
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: the two of them downing tools for two weeks because

988
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: of electricity going up six hundred percent for them in

989
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: three years. They are also considering permanently closing, so that

990
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: would mean the loss of three hundred jobs. Methodex is

991
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: running at half capacity because they haven't got enough gas.

992
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: Pan Pack has warned it's getting tough for them too.

993
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: The gas shortage means the three million dollars they used

994
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 3: to pay every year for gas is now nine million

995
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: dollars every year. Now here's a warning. This is not

996
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: even the start. This is going to get a whole

997
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: lot worse. And it is not just going to be

998
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: the big guys, as going to be me and you

999
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: paying this kind of stuff as well. It's going to

1000
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: get a whole lot worse unless we're to prepare to

1001
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: make some really, really tough calls in a bunch of spaces. Now,

1002
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: bless the government for talking about inquiries and calling the

1003
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: gen tailors and pappers before cabinet. None of that's going

1004
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: to change anything. It's just time wasting. That's just wasting

1005
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: everybody's time. What we already know what we need, and

1006
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: what we need is a lot more electricity generation and

1007
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: we need it fast. So we need to fast track it,

1008
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: which means, yeah, using the fast track legislation, it means

1009
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of communities and green warriors are going

1010
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: to have to suck it up and just let stuff

1011
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: get built. We might have to talk about dropping some

1012
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: of the wind farms in the solar panels and building

1013
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: a little bit more of the gas burning and dare

1014
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: I say it, the coal burning, getting some of that

1015
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: fossil fuel going again, because that's what we need. Because

1016
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but renewable energy, which is

1017
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: basically what we are heavily reliant on at the moment,

1018
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: is unreliable and intermittent, and it is why power part

1019
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: prices are partly expensive. I have a look at your

1020
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: power bill last mine last month. Mine was huge. I

1021
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: don't reckon I've ever paid that much for power in

1022
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: a month. More wind farms, more solar panels, are just

1023
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: going to make it more expensive. It's already projected. More

1024
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: wind farms, more solar panels, more of that stuff will

1025
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: add another twelve billion dollars to your power bills in

1026
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: the next twelve years. Do you like the sound of that? No,

1027
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: neither do I. We're gonna have to build fast we're

1028
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: probably gonna have to build dirty and I don't know

1029
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: about you, but I'm here for that because I would

1030
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: rather have those businesses operating in New Zealand than shutting

1031
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: down and hiring people than firing them. And I would

1032
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 3: rather have my power bill a little lower than it

1033
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: was last month.

1034
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: To Heather, do to see Ellen.

1035
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: This Marty Wards thing, I mean, it's like no one's

1036
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: listening to John Key. This Marty Wards thing has got

1037
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: a bit out of hand. Murray Chong is a counselor

1038
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: over in New Plymouth. He reckons he's the only one

1039
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: opposed to the Marty Wards and he thinks that's why

1040
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: people have been harassing him and shooting at his ute

1041
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: in one particular case. So he's now saying he's not

1042
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: going to oppose Marty Wards anymore because he's too scared

1043
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: for his own safety. His mayor is with us. After

1044
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 3: the headlines news to zabb.

1045
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: Hard questions strong opinion, Heather due for see allan drive

1046
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand.

1047
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: Let's get connected and news talk asid be.

1048
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Thanks you.

1049
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 15: Hey.

1050
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: After six, we're going to have a chat to Ben McNulty,

1051
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: who's a Wellington councilor because it looks like they have

1052
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: got another example of basically like a Redding cinema on

1053
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: their hands, this time not in them. And by that

1054
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: I mean a building that is just sitting there and

1055
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 3: basically looking awful and largely not being used this time

1056
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: out of the city, sitting in Johnsonville Johnsonville Mall. So

1057
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: they don't really know what to do about it. He's

1058
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: going to talk us through that. The huddle standing by

1059
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 3: to have a chat to us as well, Heather. The

1060
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: government needs to bring gas into the country asap because

1061
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: Western Australia has got plenty. That is actually a live

1062
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: consideration at the moment. There's talk of importing all g

1063
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: the trouble with importing allergy and I may, well, look,

1064
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: here's the thing. We've got heaps of gas turbine turbines right,

1065
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: so we can fire that gas like yay, we could

1066
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: burn the gas, get the lights going. It would work

1067
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: really well. There is a little bit of infrastructure though

1068
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 3: that you need to build, right because what you'd need

1069
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: to do is you basically need to put like have

1070
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: places to store it when you import it before you

1071
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 3: start firing it through the old gas turbines and stuff

1072
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 3: like that. But look, if that's if that's the solution,

1073
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. You know how I feel about

1074
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: the fossil fuels. Love my electricity prices to come down

1075
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 3: twenty three away from.

1076
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: Six, Heather duper Cela.

1077
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: Now, the Marty Wards debate has turned ugly unfortunately. New

1078
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: Plymouth counselor Murray Chong has been an outspoken opponent of

1079
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: Marty Woods. He's revealed he's been receiving death threats and

1080
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: his car was shot at, and he's not sure it's

1081
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: got to do with that opposition, but he thinks it is.

1082
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 6: I've had a message is saying that you know, i'lbi

1083
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 6: kin one day, so watch you know, watch you bet

1084
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 6: because you own you won't know about it. You'll wake

1085
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 6: up from the hospital. I've had them saying they'll grab

1086
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 6: my dog from my house and cut it up in

1087
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 6: pieces and put up my doorstep in the sack. You

1088
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 6: know my my daughter's been hassled. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 6: enough's enough now.

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Speaker 3: Marry Chong says he's not going to campaign against Marty

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Speaker 3: Wards anymore because he's too scared. Neil hold him as

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Speaker 3: you plumots mayor with us. Now, Hey, Neil, did I Heather,

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Speaker 3: did you know that the stuff was going on?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Murray.

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Speaker 27: Murray let me know a few days ago sent me

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Speaker 27: some images of of the you know, the dent that

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Speaker 27: are left in his vehicle, and I've kind of checked

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Speaker 27: in on as how he's feeling about that. He's obviously,

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Speaker 27: you know, it's appalling behavior. He's you know, highly stressed

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Speaker 27: that the team came together today. We had a we

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Speaker 27: had a sort of a strategy session today, but we discussed,

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Speaker 27: you know, what we're going to what measures we can

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Speaker 27: take to protect team members because actually it's a it's

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Speaker 27: indication of a pattern that's actually occurring across the country.

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Speaker 27: I think more than half of elected kind of counselors

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Speaker 27: across the country surveyed indicated that they've had some form

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Speaker 27: of kind of online aggression, and then about a third

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Speaker 27: of them have experienced it in person. So there's increasingly

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Speaker 27: kind of aggressive and intimidatory behavior towards local government elected people.

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Speaker 27: And unlike our peers and the Beehive, we don't get

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Speaker 27: the benefit of having security sweeps of our house, where basically,

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Speaker 27: if you're an MP, they send someone out, they do

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Speaker 27: a security assessment, they put in place protection measures. We're

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Speaker 27: just basically hanging out there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is it any particular subject you guys getting hansled on?

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Speaker 27: Look, people get you know, a range of things, are

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Speaker 27: rate increases, individual projects. You know, obviously there's the issue

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Speaker 27: around Mary Wards. There's a broad range of issues. And

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Speaker 27: if you look at the pattern though, what we're seeing

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Speaker 27: is there used to be people used to write in

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Speaker 27: emails and you know that express their views kind of

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Speaker 27: what i'd say, quite professionally and constructively. Now it's just

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Speaker 27: becoming increasingly aggressive and I mean it's putting people off

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Speaker 27: from expressing their views. And you know, we've discussed we've

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Speaker 27: got a broad range of views. We've got quite a

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Speaker 27: diverse council. But actually as a team, we get on

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Speaker 27: really well because we respect that diversity. And what we

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Speaker 27: do is we talk about ideas and values and we

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Speaker 27: argue and debate and then we make decisions. But what

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Speaker 27: we've got here is people that are just you know,

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Speaker 27: that crossing lines that you know, basically threatening intimidatory behavior

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Speaker 27: that's criminal acts. And you know, we've got a look

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Speaker 27: to ensure that our team are safe, and we're going

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Speaker 27: to look at how we can support Murray and the

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Speaker 27: wider team because there are other team members have had

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Speaker 27: abuse and threats for different issues.

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Speaker 3: Yeas and luck dealing with it. Neil, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: It's Neil Holdham, New Plum. It's man the.

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Speaker 3: what do you make of how ugly the Smarty Ward

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Speaker 3: debate has actually turned?

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Speaker 7: I am my heart think when I read the story

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Speaker 7: this morning. It just yesterday, the Text Bay Union we

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Speaker 7: published a full page in the Dominion Post calling on

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Speaker 7: political leaders to call out those political parties and political

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Speaker 7: leaders using frankly violent and drawing on extremist rhetoric. What

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Speaker 7: really concerned us was a series of means that leaned

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Speaker 7: on violent references with muskets and things like that, and

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Speaker 7: calling the government genocidal for.

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Speaker 3: Example, basically talking about the Marti Party on you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we are there, and we were saying that actually

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Speaker 7: labor need to call that out, and the Greens need

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Speaker 7: to call that out and simply saying oh, well I

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Speaker 7: wouldn't have said that, but not calling it out for

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Speaker 7: what it is. It's a dangerous precedent.

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Speaker 15: And we said that.

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Speaker 7: The thing is is that for you know, it is

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Speaker 7: only language, and you know, as you know, I'm a

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Speaker 7: free speech absolutist, but it does mean you can call

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Speaker 7: it for what it is and say New Zealand, we

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Speaker 7: shouldn't go there. And then just twenty four hours later

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Speaker 7: we have this happen over this very issue. My heart

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Speaker 7: thinks we have this is not the New Zealand I

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Speaker 7: know and love when we have a democratically elected official

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Speaker 7: standing up in tears and look, this isn't a shrinking violt.

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Speaker 7: I mean he's got I've had death threats before, but

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Speaker 7: now that I'm a father, I would have to be

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Speaker 7: more timid because the game and someone's shot a bullet

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Speaker 7: into the side of his truck and the drive by,

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Speaker 7: Holy moly, why isn't this leading menus? I find it alarming.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you Jack, how long is have we

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Speaker 3: got to this point that people who are so pro

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Speaker 3: MARII Woods and look, we don't know for sure that

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Speaker 3: this is what's going on Mary Chong. He believes it is.

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Speaker 3: But even in Kuiperer, how is it that people who

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Speaker 3: are so pro Mary Mary Woods have got so feral

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 15: Well, yeah, I think I think that is an important

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Speaker 15: Caveat first of all, we don't know for certain that

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Speaker 15: this is related to Marty Woods, and there are lots

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Speaker 15: of contentious things happening in councils at the moment.

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Speaker 27: We do know that threats were we do know that

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Speaker 27: early it is, we don't know personal required to government.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 15: You know, I think universally we just have to condemn

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Speaker 15: anything like this, any form of political violence. This is

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Speaker 15: totally unacceptable. So yeah, I agree uterly appalling. Regardless of

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Speaker 15: his of of Marrytong's views on anything related to his counsel,

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Speaker 15: business or political opinions, this kind of response is totally unjustified.

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Speaker 15: Why do I think that the Maori Ward's debates has

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Speaker 15: become so feel what I think, as Sir John Key

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Speaker 15: alluded to it the National Party conference at the weekend.

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Speaker 15: I think tensions around Ewie Crown relations and Rehethrick that

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Speaker 15: is being used is at a very high level at

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Speaker 15: the moment because the government has moved very quickly to

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Speaker 15: change direction from the previous government.

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Speaker 3: Can say something on this because I was reflecting on

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Speaker 3: this earlier. Right, the government has yes changed direction really quickly,

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Speaker 3: but the labor government previously changed direction on this very

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Speaker 3: subject very quickly as well. On limits. Just finish my thoughts,

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Speaker 3: and the opposition to what Nanaima Hooter did did did

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Speaker 3: not get this feral. So why is it the fheral

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Speaker 3: in one direction and not the other.

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Speaker 15: I think I don't want to speak to her, but

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Speaker 15: I think actually Niamhota would have experienced.

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Speaker 3: Some would get about that. Talk about what we are

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Speaker 3: seeing in public? Right, Well, we'll hang on.

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Speaker 15: Do me forget about that? That's the whole point you've

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Speaker 15: just said.

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Speaker 3: Well, because Jack, the point that what I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: say is forget about what Ima who is personally experiencing,

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Speaker 3: because otherwise we have to go and trall through what

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Speaker 3: Sam and Brown is personally experiencing, and we don't know

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Speaker 3: and what every other leading figure is. So misters and

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Speaker 3: I are winged about it in public we don't know,

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Speaker 3: but look at what we're seeing in public, what is

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Speaker 3: in the news and public, and it is much more

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Speaker 3: intense in one direction than the other.

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Speaker 15: I don't know that you can quantify it that way

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Speaker 15: and say it's much more in other Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 15: I think it's fad across the board, and I think

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Speaker 15: all parties, including those parties using terms like genocide, all

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Speaker 15: parties need to take the heat out of a conversation.

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Speaker 7: I think responsible even racist. You know, the former New

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Speaker 7: Plymouth near basically called anyone who just agreed with him

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Speaker 7: a racist. That's the sort of that's what started us

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Speaker 7: on the sort of path you know that we I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's sort of the end result of cancel culture. Once

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Speaker 7: you start calling people racists and trying to shut down

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Speaker 7: that debate, you do inflame a sort of a sort

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Speaker 7: of out the mob. And eventually what we warned about

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Speaker 7: literally in the full page ad yesterday calling for people

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Speaker 7: to sign the public letter, is that you know, this

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Speaker 7: could lead to bad places, and less than twenty four

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Speaker 7: hours later, here is a bad place. I think that

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Speaker 7: that all parties, including the Mali Party, should be saying, look,

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Speaker 7: we don't want to go, we don't want to go here,

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Speaker 7: and look I look at the We put an email

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Speaker 7: to the couple of thousand people that put their name

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Speaker 7: to that letter and today pointing this out, and I.

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Speaker 11: Just said, you know, this is not the New Zealand that.

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Speaker 28: I know, and marm And.

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Speaker 7: In this I've lost my train of thought.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, you don't.

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Speaker 22: About it.

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Speaker 3: Jordan jack Well, I agree with Jordan.

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Speaker 15: I think it would be impactful if political leaders like

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Speaker 15: to party. Maldi said, Hey, actually, this kind of this

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Speaker 15: this you know, if we are if we are having

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Speaker 15: if we are having violence political violence, And I say,

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Speaker 15: because we haven't had that one hundred concerned in this case,

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Speaker 15: but if we are having political violence relating to this issue,

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Speaker 15: that's totally unacceptable. The problem is that I would say

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Speaker 15: that people on the fringes of this argument, some people

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Speaker 15: in the fringes of this argument see it as beneficial

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Speaker 15: to their cause to throw fuel on the fire. On

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Speaker 15: both sides can also say can I can also say that,

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Speaker 15: you know, you just characterized in a naima hooter is

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Speaker 15: winging about it. I mean, just just think about your

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Speaker 15: own language here the way, and that you have just

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Speaker 15: very very quickly, very reflexively just completely minim her experience.

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Speaker 15: She will have had some of the most appalling abuse

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Speaker 15: of any modern pop modern pace. You have to agree

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Speaker 15: with it. I think you have to agree with it,

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Speaker 15: but you've just said, oh, yeah, she's when she is

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Speaker 15: Murray Chong. Absolutely, we all agree he's a victim. I

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Speaker 15: agree Murray Chong's a victim too. But then when you

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Speaker 15: don't use that kind of language, I mean, it's you're

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Speaker 15: playing into exactly the kind of problem you describe it.

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Speaker 3: Yep, thank you for that. All right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 3: Back with the Huddle, Jack Tam Jordan Williams. Jack, do

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Speaker 3: you reckon we're being too hard on the canoeists or

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Speaker 3: was it the most embarrassing New Zealand performance at the

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Speaker 3: Olympics ever?

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Speaker 15: I don't know ever, but certainly at these Olympics.

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Speaker 11: I don't think we've been too hard on them.

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Speaker 15: I think it was embarrassing. I think given the standards

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Speaker 15: of the nd DOC supposedly said around selection for our

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Speaker 15: other athletes and other sports, it was a disgrace.

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Speaker 16: I mean, honestly, it was.

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Speaker 15: My wife always scoffs at me because I did that

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Speaker 15: classic like mean thing where I'm like, oh, how would

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Speaker 15: I fear if I was competing against these world class

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Speaker 15: athletes in this extremely difficult event. But that was one

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Speaker 15: spot where even she had to agree that maybe if

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Speaker 15: I was out there on the course and I had

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Speaker 15: to win at my back, perhaps even I could have

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Speaker 15: been send them across the line.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon, Jordan?

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Speaker 7: Your producer was trying to go me to say, this

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Speaker 7: is an outrageous waste of taxpayer money and all that

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Speaker 7: sort of thing, which might all be true, but maybe

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Speaker 7: it's not a conturion And it's probably my worst nightmare

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Speaker 7: is sort of waking up and having to be having

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Speaker 7: to be an all black and the embarrassment that I've

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Speaker 7: got zero scaled in this area. But like these guys,

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Speaker 7: knowing they were taking the proverbial who've got a free

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Speaker 7: trip to Paris, got to see the ceiling a village,

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Speaker 7: have all the fun, pretend to be elite athletes, knowing

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Speaker 7: the whole time.

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Speaker 3: More importantly, they get to compete in the thing that

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Speaker 3: they're supposed to compete in, which is kayaking.

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Speaker 7: Right. Yeah, I mean, on the other hand, I sort

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Speaker 7: of got a like, again, it's a probably my conturioness,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, God on you mate, what is it? What

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Speaker 7: is more New Zealand and like a free CONTACTI through France.

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Speaker 3: You realize, do you realize though, that they're not actually canoeists,

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Speaker 3: like that they're just to get into the.

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Speaker 15: I understand that. I mean they by by competing in

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Speaker 15: the C two they could also compete in the K four,

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Speaker 15: in which they didn't totally humiliate themselves. I think they

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Speaker 15: they made it through to the second round, right, but

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Speaker 15: it was hardly like a totally dazzling performance. Look, I

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Speaker 15: just watching that if the if the plan was not

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Speaker 15: to try in the sea, to which I think that

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Speaker 15: was the plan because they saved the energy for the

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Speaker 15: K four. I mean, it just makes a bit of

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Speaker 15: an embarrassing spectacle on.

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Speaker 3: Canoeist, isn't canoeing? Actually? The thing that is the most

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Speaker 3: embarrassing here that that that Jordan, that you can have

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Speaker 3: people who don't even know how to canoe make it

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Speaker 3: and stuff.

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Speaker 7: Sports bodies at the Olympics are hardly covering themselves in law.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, surely the qualification standards. That's the truly embarrassing thing

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Speaker 15: about this. Yes, the loophole is the most embarrassing thing

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Speaker 15: you've brought me around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, thank you. How about that? All right? That's

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Speaker 3: the huddle this evening, Jordan Williams and Jack Dame. Thanks

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Speaker 3: very much guys for your time. Seven away from six upon.

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Speaker 1: Your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in your

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Speaker 1: car on your drive home. Heather duple c Allen drive

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Speaker 1: with One New Zealand one Giant Leap for Business News

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Speaker 1: Talk ZIBBI.

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Speaker 3: Hither that counselor that has been threatened needs to resign.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but if he's going to allow his vote

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Speaker 3: to be tainted by threats and blackmail, he shouldn't represent

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Speaker 3: the voters. Well that's pretty harsh, but I mean I

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Speaker 3: can see where you're coming from with that. Hither, I

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Speaker 3: have it on very good authority that the CEOs and

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Speaker 3: this is back to the energy thing, the CEOs of

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Speaker 3: Winston Pulp and Og. Both of these are businesses who

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Speaker 3: are affected by the electricity prices. One is closing down

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Speaker 3: completely in Penrose and the other one is downing tools

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: for two weeks at two MILS flew to Wellington today

1350
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Speaker 3: to meet with the government representatives on the power issues.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know what they expect them to do

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Speaker 3: immediately to help my point exactly pan Pack pulp mill

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Speaker 3: in New Plymouth, which is owned by OGI, has already

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Speaker 3: ceased producing, having only just restarted a few months ago

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01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 3: after cyclone, Gabrielle. It's not just the mills and the staff,

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Speaker 3: it's also all the ancillary businesses that feed materials in,

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Speaker 3: like the logs and the chip and the chemicals, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: And those who take it out like Kiwi Rail and

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Speaker 3: the trucks and the stevedors and the ports and the

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Speaker 3: shipping lines, et cetera. All of Winston and OG pulp

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Speaker 3: out of New Plymouth is exported. I also understand OG

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Speaker 3: are looking at closer at at their Kinleath pulp and

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Speaker 3: paper mill as well, So that's news. Didn't know that

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Speaker 3: that exports large tonnage but also has a decent domestic

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Speaker 3: market for paper. The country is in deep, deep trouble.

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Speaker 3: I think we're all starting to realize that we've been

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Speaker 3: warned about this for a while. It's starting to sink.

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Speaker 3: In very very good piece from Tony Alexander in one

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Speaker 3: roof today just warning us me included warning us to

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Speaker 3: take a chill pill over how good we think that

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Speaker 3: economic recovery is going to be Once Adriane decides to

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Speaker 3: finally start cutting the a of the ocr He's basically

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Speaker 3: warning that once the cuts happen, it's not gonna to

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Speaker 3: be fast and awesome our recovery. He points out a

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Speaker 3: bunch of reasons for that. First of all, the kei

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: we dollar is not sitting at highs. It's actually about

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Speaker 3: eight percent lower than it was three years ago. That

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Speaker 3: impacts our exports. International tourism has recovered, but that's about

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Speaker 3: as good as it will get because the Chinese still

1380
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: aren't flying, so it's flatlined. We can't rely on the

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Speaker 3: world to buy heaps of our stuff next year because

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Speaker 3: global growth is not going to be terribly flash especially

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Speaker 3: if the Chinese and United States economies do poorly. The

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Speaker 3: world is moving away from free trade, which we rely

1385
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Speaker 3: on so heavily, especially if Trumpy wins the next election.

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Speaker 3: Migration into New Zealand is falling off fast. The brain

1387
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Speaker 3: drain is going to go on and will do for years.

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Speaker 3: House building is falling off some more. Liquidations are highly likely. Rates,

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Speaker 3: as in council rates are going to keep shooting up

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Speaker 3: because councils can do that to us, So the Reserve

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Speaker 3: Bank might cut He says, but it can't cut too

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Speaker 3: much either because inflation might take off again. So in short,

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Speaker 3: as he says, we are set on a low growth path.

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Speaker 3: So I remain excited about the cuts, but maybe just

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Speaker 3: have to temper it a little bit. We'll go to

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Speaker 3: Wellington next find out what they're going to do about

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Speaker 3: the Johnsonville mall, and then we'll check in with Milford

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Speaker 3: Asset Management about that market turmoil. In the last few days.

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Speaker 3: News Talks b.

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing with the

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Speaker 1: Business Hour with Hander Duplessylan and my Hr on newstalksb.

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Speaker 3: Even and coming up for the next hour, if you

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Speaker 3: worked at Mackid's between twenty and nine and twenty twenty,

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: they might owe you some money. Gernative Trainey will talk

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Speaker 3: us through that. Milford Asset Management on the US reporting

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Speaker 3: season so far, it's actually very interesting. And the union

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Speaker 3: representing the workers at the Penrose plant that's shutting down,

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Speaker 3: it's going to talk us through what they want the

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Speaker 3: government to do to try to save those jobs. It's

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Speaker 3: eight past six now. Wellington counselors want to investigate what

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Speaker 3: tools the council has to force the redevelopment of Johnsonville

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Speaker 3: more like shopping center. The shopping centers and I saw

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Speaker 3: after decades of an action and all the big retailers

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Speaker 3: like the Warehouse and paper Plus and so on have

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Speaker 3: pulled out. It's owned by an investment management firm, Stride Property.

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Speaker 3: Stride Property says it's still working on redevelopment options. Wellington

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Speaker 3: councilor Ben McNulty put forward the emotion of notice and

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Speaker 3: it's with us.

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Speaker 15: Now, Hi, Ben, good thing than Heather, Thanks for having that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome. Listen what's happened? Why has it been

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Speaker 3: largely abandoned?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, Look, there's a really long history here which involves

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01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 29: a terrible council decision when Kira Pregnagasta was mayor to

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Speaker 29: actually protect the Golden Mile against competition in them all

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Speaker 29: and it's ability. And then in twenty twenty two the

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Speaker 29: shoe was on the other foot when we were working

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Speaker 29: as council and partnership with Stride to build a housing

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 29: project mixed use and government would have put seventeen milar

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 29: money in there for water. They walked away at the

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Speaker 29: last minute. They're half owned by an Australian superannuation fund

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 29: and that superannuation fund got the spooks and you know,

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Speaker 29: they probably couldn't point to Johnson Vall on a map if.

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Speaker 15: You tried them.

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Speaker 29: And the development fell over and we're in stagnation and

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Speaker 29: it's been decades of you know, the cycle going around,

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Speaker 29: so it's time to try something new.

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Speaker 3: So the fact that you guys want to use the

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Speaker 3: Public Works Act, I mean that's pretty serious. Does that

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Speaker 3: tell you that you expect that nothing is going to happen?

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Speaker 29: Oh? Absolutely this. I've been in our role for about

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 29: eighteen months now and I've been sort of patient. How

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 29: our local MP, greg O Connor's been working with Stride

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Speaker 29: up in Auckland trying to see something happen, and it's

1444
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 29: become increasingly clear that if you just even look at

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Speaker 29: their latest report, they're not in a position to do

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Speaker 29: a full scale development, and they're a commercial property developed

1447
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Speaker 29: by and large and commercial not working on the site.

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Speaker 29: If it was, it would be thriving. So you need

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Speaker 29: someone who's actually experienced at mixed use development, like precinct

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Speaker 29: of what they've done up in commercial bail something to

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01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 29: come in. So my view is if they're not going

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 29: to use it, they might as well lose it and

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Speaker 29: someone else who can actually do for work and has

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Speaker 29: the expertise needs to come in right.

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Speaker 3: And so what are you guys thinking about some sort

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: of a busting to change or something.

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Speaker 29: Well, that's the sort of hook right in the long

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 29: term plan for a greater Wellington. They want to build

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Speaker 29: a bus interchange next to the railway station. To do that,

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Speaker 29: they have to acquire some of them all land to

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Speaker 29: do that. So there's a really strong case of the

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Speaker 29: Public Works Act to be used there for the rest

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01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 29: of them all that might not be as easy, but

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Speaker 29: there's also the Urban Development Act, and we just want

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Speaker 29: to look at what the options are. So we've got

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Speaker 29: some kind of idea instead of just hoping and praying

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Speaker 29: that they might have a change of heart. You know,

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Speaker 29: one day.

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Speaker 3: Is there anybody actually still in the mall?

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Speaker 29: I think the vacancy rate's almost fifty percent. All of

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Speaker 29: the large retailer has gone, the warehouse, HELENSTEIN'SZBA games, you know,

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Speaker 29: paper plus. It is now just a mishmash of small

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Speaker 29: independent owners who are doing their best. But recently our

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01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 29: dray cleaner got run out. The rent went up as

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 29: roof was leaking. I'd be surprised if there's going to

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Speaker 29: be many people left if we don't do anything in

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Speaker 29: their future.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing how you go with this. Hey,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much. Ben, really appreciate it's been mc

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Speaker 3: naughty Wellington counselor.

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Speaker 13: Here.

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Speaker 3: The pan pack is in Hawk's Bay, not New Plymouth.

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 3: They're assessed to be seven to twelve percent of hawks

1485
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,919
Speaker 3: By's economy. Looks sorry. It is Napier, not New Plymouth,

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 3: and it is massive over there. And if they do

1487
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 3: shut down anymore in hawks Bay, it's going to be

1488
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Speaker 3: big for that region. Interesting aside in the Philip Pulkinghorn trial,

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Speaker 3: this was covered off on the Media Insider today mental

1490
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Speaker 3: Health Foundation has been revealed trying to stop media publishing details,

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Speaker 3: in particular the Herald, around the murder or suicide of

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Speaker 3: Pauline Hannah.

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Speaker 6: So the.

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Speaker 3: Mental Health Foundation senior media advisor Mark Wilson, who's a

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 3: lovely guy, wrote to the judge saying he had serious

1496
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 3: concerns about the reporting of proceedings in the trial. What

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Speaker 3: he was primarily concerned about is the quantity of information

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Speaker 3: being reported by the New Zealand Herald live feed. It

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Speaker 3: includes witness accounts, photographs, videos and detail on the mechanics

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Speaker 3: of a common suicide method in New Zealand. What Mike

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 3: was worried about is that it will lead other people

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Speaker 3: to also commit suicide, presumably by the same method, because

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 3: there is robust evidence which he points to, that news

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Speaker 3: stories about suicide or suicidal behavior can be followed by

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Speaker 3: further suicides. The lawyer acting for the Herald, en Zidmey's

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Speaker 3: general counsel, Genevivo Hallerin, said the Herald is already being careful.

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Speaker 3: In defense of the Herald said already being careful. Coverage

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Speaker 3: is full of warnings. Cover the trial is neither sensational

1509
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,440
Speaker 3: nor graphic. It is simply a straight report of proceedings.

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Speaker 3: And that's really important right in the principles of open

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: justice that you are able to report within reason what

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Speaker 3: is happening in court, subject to you know, short off,

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 3: short of having things like suppression of details, and that

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01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 3: does happen from time to time, but if you care,

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: if it is open happening in open court, you should

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01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: be able to report it. The judge, throughout the request

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Speaker 3: from the Mental Health Foundation, said the court has no

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Speaker 3: power to dictate the manner in which news organizations report

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 3: proceedings in court and brilliant. That is exactly how it

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 3: should happen. I think the right decision has been reached

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01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: thirteen past six crunching the.

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Speaker 1: Numbers and getting the results. It's Heather duplicy Ellen with

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Speaker 1: the business hours. Thanks to my HR, the HR platform

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Speaker 1: for SME on us talksb.

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Speaker 3: All right now it is called to past six. If

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01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: you worked at McDonald's between two thousand and nine and

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01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, about forty thousand current and former McDonald's staff

1528
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 3: might experience a little win full because of having to

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 3: correct a widespread payer role issue. Genet Tibtraine is The

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Speaker 3: Herald's Wellington Business editday and eight, Hey what happened?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 30: So there's a Holidays Act two thousand and three and

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 30: that is proving to be a very complicated and problematic

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 30: piece of legislation because a whole bunch of employers, including

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01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 30: government departments, have misinterpreted the Act and paid people incorrectly.

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01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 30: And this relates to and you'll leave holiday pay that

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01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 30: type of thing. Now, for some years, various employers have

1538
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 30: been reimbursing staff because of this spotch up, because of

1539
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 30: this confusion under the Act, and McDonald's is the latest

1540
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 30: large employer to start this quite significant reimbursement project.

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 15: So, as you said in your.

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Speaker 30: Intro, around forty thousand current and former McDonald's staff are

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01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 30: likely to be compensated. The company reckons they'll receive tens

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 30: of millions of dollars the low tens of millions. Wouldn't

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 30: say exactly how much. But I've had a little look

1546
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 30: online on various social media platforms, and you know, people

1547
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 30: are talking about receiving three thousand dollars one two hundred.

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 30: Someone's talked about receiving ten thousand dollars. So good news

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01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 30: for some people.

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Speaker 3: Do you know if it comes with interest, like, are

1551
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: you going to get it in two thousand and nine

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: money or are you going to get it in twenty

1553
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 3: twenty fours money? Because JA, that's a different story.

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Speaker 30: Well, that is a very good question, and I don't

1555
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 30: know the answer to that. It sounds like a really

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 30: complicated process all of this, And because McDonald's the various

1557
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 30: stores are owned by various franchisees, so the issue has

1558
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 30: been pulling them all together and figuring out what the

1559
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 30: payments are. So actually, some people have been overpaid over

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Speaker 30: the years. Those people won't be asked to repay McDonald's.

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01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 30: But the issue here is that there are some stores

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01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 30: where people won't be reimbursed. So there's about a handful

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01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 30: of stores that are either they're outside of this massive

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01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 30: process that's that the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment

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01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 30: is involved with with McDonald's and those people will log

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01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 30: onto this portal online and be told that they won't

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 30: be repaid for now at least. So yeah, complicated assure,

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01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 30: and I think there'll probably be some disappointed people there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, thank you, Jena. I really appreciate it.

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01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for talking us through it. Genetive training,

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01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 3: the Herald's Willing to Business Center. I'm not gonna lie.

1572
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: When I saw Jeanne's story in the paper today, I

1573
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 3: was very excited about it. I thought that that's me,

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01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: but no, Unfortunately I only worked at McDonald's Gosha like

1575
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 3: turn of the century. Yes, I love being able to

1576
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 3: I love being old enough to be able to say

1577
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: that I was doing something at the turn of the century.

1578
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: I reckon that's around about this. I missed out by

1579
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 3: nine years or thereabouts. As always with the Olympics, the

1580
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: best stuff that's coming from the Olympics is the stuff

1581
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 3: that's happening, Like, it's not actually the medals and the

1582
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: performance of the athletes. It's always the other stuff. Here's

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 3: a couple of things for you. You know that guy

1584
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 3: from France who was doing the high jumping and then

1585
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 3: is Willy got in the way and knocked the bar over,

1586
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 3: and then as a result of that, he basically he

1587
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: didn't reach the finals. He it's not all bad. I mean,

1588
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 3: you know, you'd think that's pretty bad you didn't get

1589
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: to the finals because of your crotch. But no, he's

1590
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 3: been offered a porn deal wortha reported two hundred and

1591
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,799
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars, apparently from a site called cam Soda.

1592
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: Never heard of it before anyway, TMZ's got the letter

1593
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 3: and they're absolutely excited about what they saw and they

1594
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 3: said there's a career for him in making adult video.

1595
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: And also the other thing that's happening is that the

1596
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 3: Kiwis have started a little craze by the looks of things,

1597
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: doing something they call the Munna wave. So what happens is,

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 3: you know, if you watch the Olympics and then they

1599
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 3: announced from New Zealand, Finn Butcher or whatever, this is

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01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 3: when this at this point when they were introduced, just

1601
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 3: before the competition, is when they decide to rock out

1602
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 3: the Munna wave. And Finn Butcher's done it, Lewis Claibert

1603
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: the swing, the Swimmer's done at the runner, Sam Tanner's

1604
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 3: done at the surfer, Billy ste and has done it.

1605
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 3: So it's a thing. And apparently what it is like,

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01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: I mean not apparently, I've watched it. Let me try

1607
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 3: and explain it to you. What a Munna wave is

1608
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: is you basically just stick your arm up in the

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01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 3: air with your hands spread like your fingers splayed on

1610
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 3: your hand like you're about to you know, like like

1611
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 3: how many apples have you got? Five?

1612
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 13: Like that?

1613
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 3: So you put your five fingers in the air and

1614
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: then that's it. That's the Muna wave. You don't wave

1615
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 3: like the Queen like with with your palm being vertical.

1616
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:31,839
Speaker 3: You wave with your palm being kind of horizontal. Slight problem.

1617
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 3: It's very close to the Nazi salute. So the only

1618
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: difference between the Nazi salute and the Munna wave is

1619
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: the placement of the fingers. With the Nazi salute, you

1620
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 3: get you getting those fingers right close to each other

1621
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: and with the Muna wave, you're spreading them out. And

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: my suggestion is, if you're going to start rocking a munnawave,

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01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: you just get those you you know, given especially what's

1624
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 3: going on with race relations in this country, you spread

1625
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 3: those five fingers out. I don't want to see any

1626
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: of your fingers close together when you're doing your unawave.

1627
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 3: But anyway, best of like trying to rock that could

1628
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: look cool in front of the young kids at the moment.

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01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,880
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Speaker 3: I thought the same when I saw the Munna wave.

1634
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: He here we are this because we're mums, We're like, ooh,

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01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 3: watch out, watch out. With that, we immediately just start

1636
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: getting you know, protective six twenty three. Now, it's been

1637
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 3: a hell of a week, as you know. On Monday,

1638
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 3: the S and P five hundred was down three percent.

1639
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 3: That's its biggest pullback since September twenty two. Same day,

1640
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 3: Japan had its worst one day drop since nineteen eighty seven,

1641
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 3: selling off a mass of twelve point four percent, bringing

1642
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 3: the total fall from the peak to a round about

1643
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 3: twenty five percent. To talk us more through this, Debra

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 3: l Ambi of Milford Acid Management. Hey, Deborah, Hi, how

1645
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 3: are you very well? Thank you said? Can you talk

1646
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 3: us through the market move? Since then? Has everybody? Has

1647
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:50,879
Speaker 3: everyone just recovered?

1648
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 25: Yeah, So what we've seen was overnight markets through the

1649
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 25: little bit as buys waited for him to buy the

1650
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 25: dip and S and P was up around one. So

1651
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 25: that's after on Monday, the SMP was down three. As

1652
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 25: you've said, in Japan had worst day since nineteen eighty seven,

1653
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 25: and so this was reassuring to see. But the index

1654
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 25: is still down around seven and a half percent from

1655
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 25: its highs and investors have been worried about the ability

1656
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 25: of big tech companies to generate a return on their

1657
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 25: huge art special intelligence end. Plus they've been some concerned

1658
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 25: about US growth, which made worse by a week jobs

1659
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 25: report last week. And then what we've seen is overnight

1660
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 25: in Japan, the nearly two to five closed up around

1661
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 25: ten percent, which signals that the worst of the panic

1662
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 25: might be over. So after having that worst day since

1663
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 25: nineteen eighty seven, up as your reference on Monday overnight

1664
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 25: was actually it's es day since two thousand and eight.

1665
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 25: So however, the total four from the peak in Japan

1666
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 25: is still around eighteen percent. As investors have been processing

1667
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 25: Japan's first interest rate height in seventeen years, and this

1668
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 25: caused an unwind of the yen carried trade, which effectively

1669
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 25: means that investors have reduced some of their Japanese debt

1670
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 25: and under that by selling global assets like US tech stops.

1671
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 25: So shot from what we've seen as markets have actually

1672
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 25: stabilized at these lower levels, and overnight what we saw

1673
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 25: of the japan Central Bank intelligent made a coordinated announcement

1674
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 25: to try and show a united front and restore some

1675
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 25: calm to financial markets, but we do expect volatility to

1676
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 25: stay high.

1677
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: Okay, overnight we also had Uber reported second quarter result

1678
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 3: and as a result, the shares were up about eleven percent.

1679
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 3: Why'd they go up?

1680
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 16: So?

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01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 25: Uber reported high and expected profit and importantly return to profitability,

1682
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 25: So this isn't the first time it's posted a profit.

1683
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 25: It was profitable last year, but at the start of

1684
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 25: the year it slipped at the losses on higher cost

1685
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 25: from equity investments and legal settlements, So in its results,

1686
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 25: it's revenue without sixteen percent, and the CEGO said it

1687
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 25: was well positioned to grow despite the unserved macroeconomic environment

1688
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 25: and was very clear that they're not yet seeing any

1689
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 25: weakness and demand from consumers, which we do you know,

1690
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 25: has been slowing their spending in other areas of the economy,

1691
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 25: including places like restaurants. So for now, uber it doesn't

1692
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 25: seem to be impacted by this. And then finally Uber's

1693
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 25: pushed into advertising continues and its new ad business exceeded

1694
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 25: one billion dollar revenue runway in the quarter. That was

1695
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 25: all tacking very well.

1696
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine we're about seventy five percent of

1697
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 3: the way now through the US earning seasons been quite

1698
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 3: a right, hasn't it. We've had Microsoft, Mesa, Google, Amazon,

1699
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: those really big tech names reporting their results. What are

1700
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 3: you seeing here?

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01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1702
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,919
Speaker 25: It has been a ride, all right, And so overall

1703
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 25: i'd say results from big tech have been quite mixed,

1704
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 25: and the key theme has been increased capital spending on

1705
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 25: artificial intelligence. So Amazon it had a fantastic result in

1706
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 25: its cloud computing business, but it's retailed business this week,

1707
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 25: so she has actually fell around nine percent metas digital

1708
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 25: AD revenue grew rapidly. It posted a strong revenue forecast

1709
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 25: and then talked to high capital spending on artificial intelligence

1710
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 25: and it she is up around five percent. Google source

1711
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 25: strength it's cloud business, but its AD revenue actually came

1712
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 25: in lowers and expected, so its shares sold off five percent.

1713
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 25: And then finally, Microsoft's cloud business actually missed expectations for

1714
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 25: the first time in two years, but because it was

1715
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 25: due to a lack of supply, not demand, it shares

1716
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 25: only traded down one percent. So the big common theme

1717
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 25: from all of those companies, so Microsoft, Amazon, Google letter

1718
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 25: was all big increases in capital spending to focus on

1719
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 25: building out their artificial intelligence infrastructure.

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01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 3: Oh, interesting stuff, that increase in the AI investment. Would

1721
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 3: that have been taken quite well by the likes of Nvidio.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, And so we don't get in Z's earning result

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Speaker 25: until the end of the month, and invests have been

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Speaker 25: really focused on what these big tech companies have been

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01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 25: saying and what means for in videot So while that

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01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 25: sounds great this high level of spend, currently invests are

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01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 25: increasingly concerned about how sustainable the level of tech capex

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Speaker 25: is in the sustainability of demand for in videos chips.

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Speaker 25: So these results show us that these companies are spending

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01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 25: tens of billions of dogs of now, but also that

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 25: it's not yet translating to meaningful growth. So on, this

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Speaker 25: is a questioning if the companies can actually generate and

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Speaker 25: accept you will return on these artificial intelligence investments, and

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Speaker 25: then how sustainable with its spenders. And then on top

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Speaker 25: of that, he's to have been bother exacerbated by a

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Speaker 25: room delay to the launch of the videos next generation

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Speaker 25: AI chip IF and videos shared are actually down around

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01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 25: twenty percent from its highs earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Deborah, thank you for talking to us through

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Speaker 3: a Deborah Landy of Milford Asset Management. Headlines are next.

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Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my HR,

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: the HR platform for SME US talks by.

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Speaker 31: High can come now.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I've got to run you through all of the

1746
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 3: things that are going to be happening overnight in the Olympics.

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: But the two things that are happening the closest from now,

1748
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't even know what the English wrould like. You know,

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01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 3: the ones that are at most imminent. There you go

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Speaker 3: are the Kayak Sprints, which will feature Amy Fisher and

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01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 3: Lisa Carrington. Now these are just heats, but still love

1752
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 3: to see these ladies in action, and that's going to

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Speaker 3: kick off at seven thirty. Now Banksy has done another one.

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01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 3: So we were just talking yesterday about Banksy doing a thing,

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: and now banks he's done another one. Yesterday it was

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Speaker 3: the goat that was perched precariously atop of a strut

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Speaker 3: on a building. Today he's done the silhouettes of two

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01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: elephants with their trunks stretched out towards each other, and

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01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: he's painted the elephants sort of like emerging from boarded

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Speaker 3: off windows. The windows had been boarded already, I think,

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01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 3: and painted white, and he's sort of got them coming

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Speaker 3: out of that. As a result of not having a

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Speaker 3: caption or any kind of obvious meaning for them, everybody

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01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 3: started to try to interpret what they mean. Some say

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01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: it means the elephant in the room. Others say it's

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Speaker 3: symbol like the trunks reaching out towards each other. Are

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Speaker 3: this a symbol of healing and reconciliations? The goo going

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Speaker 3: nuts over Banksy again twenty three away from sevengether do

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Speaker 3: for ce Allen. Now, the energy problem for New Zealand

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01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 3: is getting worse. Seventy five workers at a pulp mill

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Speaker 3: in Penrose and Auckland were told this morning that the

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Speaker 3: mill will probably have to shut down by mid December

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01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: because of power prices. And this comes after two mills

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01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 3: near or Harkuny down tools for two weeks for the

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01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 3: same reason. They may also shut and Method X is

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01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 3: running at half capacity because of a gas shortage. Joe

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Speaker 3: Gallagher is a negotiation specialist at two, which is one

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Speaker 3: of the unions involved in the Penrose mill. He joins us, Now, Hey, Joe,

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Speaker 3: good evening, how do you rate the chances that this

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Speaker 3: mill does actually shut down?

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Speaker 22: Look, I mean, you know, we all live in eternal hope,

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Speaker 22: but my experience up to twenty two years in this

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Speaker 22: in this industry is that it's going to be extremely

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Speaker 22: chellinging to keep this mill open given the pressure from

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01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 22: power prices this morning though were twelve hundred dollars a

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Speaker 22: megawatt and forty dollars the catilla what for gas, So

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01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 22: you know, I think it's going to be very very

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01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 22: hard to keep it open from facing those type of

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:07,919
Speaker 22: price pressure. Pressures.

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Speaker 3: What can the government do about this? Mean, everybody's looking

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Speaker 3: at the government to fix it.

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Speaker 22: Can they Well, look, you know, I think you know,

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01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 22: someone has to seriously have a look at how we

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01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,879
Speaker 22: could regulate or put some regulation and support for heavy industry.

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Speaker 22: This is you know, we're seeing you know, closures, We're

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Speaker 22: seeing Weebstar and Masterton, We're seeing those two plants idling up.

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01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 22: New Zealand still has to work, you know, potentially idle

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01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 22: up every now and then because in some cases it

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01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 22: costs two hundred and thirty thousand dollars an hour to

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Speaker 22: run a kiln. So all of these plants are under pressure.

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Speaker 22: It's really you know, incumbent, I think on the government

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Speaker 22: to come up with the strategies that that shows support

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Speaker 22: for manufacturing in New Zealand. They're supporting farmers, they're supporting landlords.

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Speaker 22: I think it's about time they reached out to heavy

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01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 22: industry and came up with a plan to keep manufacturing local.

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Speaker 3: So what are you suggesting the force the retailers, the

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01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 3: power retailers to cut prices or give these guys tax

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01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 3: breaks or what.

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Speaker 22: Well, I think you know, we need people need to

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01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 22: get together and look at all the solutions. I mean,

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Speaker 22: I don't think one there's going to be one solution

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Speaker 22: to this problem. But I mean, you know this, the

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01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 22: power and the gas price and the gas shortage, it's

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01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 22: all out of control. So I think we have to

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Speaker 22: look at waste to ensure that we have a strong

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Speaker 22: manufacturing based in New Zealand because a lot of these

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Speaker 22: mills and companies are critical to a rural New Zealand.

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Speaker 22: I'm down and towerpo at the moment, and can Leaf

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01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 22: Pulp and Paper well which just part of OG that

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01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 22: that is critical to that community. Likewise, Glenbrook and the

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01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 22: steel mill is critical to that water community. So we've

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01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,520
Speaker 22: got to be doing everything in our power all stakeholders

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01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 22: to work out a solution to support local manufacturing that

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Speaker 22: you know, it just doesn't make sense that ship it

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Speaker 22: off shore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you basically on the sentiment. It's

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Speaker 3: how to do it that's the problem made Listen on Kenleaf,

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Speaker 3: we we got told today that OGI is looking at

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Speaker 3: ken Leath Pulp and Paper Mill potentially going to shut

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Speaker 3: it down.

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Speaker 2: Have you that No, I haven't.

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Speaker 22: I've been on site today and no one's raise that

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Speaker 22: with me. So I wouldn't like that to you know,

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Speaker 22: get out there. You know, I've been down and I've

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Speaker 22: done a tour of the site. I've been talking to

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Speaker 22: all the members. I've got other meetings tomorrow. The note

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Speaker 22: there's none of that sentiment at the moment because that

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Speaker 22: would be a huge that would be a huge blow

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Speaker 22: to this community. I mean, Tokara was formed out of

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Speaker 22: can Lead needing workers to come down and build the mill.

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Speaker 22: So you know, at this stage there's been none of

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Speaker 22: that talk around.

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Speaker 3: What about Pan Pac millon Hawks Bay, which is also

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Speaker 3: owned by OG apparently has stopped producing, has it?

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Speaker 22: Look, I can't comment on that. I hadn't heard that today.

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Speaker 22: I haven't heard that. I've got further meetings next week

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Speaker 22: with OG senior management. I mean, you know those questions

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01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 22: that I can follow up on. I mean, all of

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01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 22: these mills are facing those same pressures rale industry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe listen, thank you very much for talking us

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Speaker 3: through that. I do appreciate it. As Joe Gallagher Air

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01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 3: Two's negotiation specialists. Hither those Olympians, by the way, have

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01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 3: stolen the run away from US truckies. It's been around

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01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: for years. I would like to see the transport industry

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Speaker 3: sender cease and desist letter to the chief to mission. Apparently,

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01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 3: the difference between this and the Nazi salute that is

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01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 3: there is how I reckon this is subtle. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: that there's a difference. The difference is that the Nazi

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01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: salute is apparently done from the center of the body,

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Speaker 3: a fact I did not know because not one to

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01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 3: involve myself in that kind of pursuit. But anyway, apparently

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01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 3: so whereas the Muna wave is supposed to be done

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01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 3: kind of across the body, if you know what I mean,

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01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Like the Nazi salute goes out, the Munna wave is like, yeah,

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 3: just you just want to throw it out there from

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01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 3: right to left or left to right. Apparently, now on

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01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: the Kuiperter thing, we have hardly spoken about this because

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Speaker 3: we've been this is re the Maori Ward's been speaking

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01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 3: about what's been going on in New Plymouth. But the

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01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 3: Kuiperer thing today was pretty hectic because today it was

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Speaker 3: the first council dis establish the Maori Ward right and

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01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 3: probably is not going to be the last, and it

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01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 3: got tense. What happened is the protest. There were protesters

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 3: there who disrupted the meeting. One of the protesters actually

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01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 3: came into the meeting, the council meeting room. And the

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01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 3: reason that the protester was able to come into the

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01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 3: council meeting room is because the Maori Ward Counselor opened

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Speaker 3: the door for them, and so they came in and

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01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 3: they stood in the doorway and they did a hucker,

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01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 3: which means it was so loud obviously no one could speak,

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01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 3: and so they had to adjourn the meeting, and then

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01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 3: the coppers had to come, wasting police time. Police had

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Speaker 3: to come and remove the protester. Sounds like the Maori

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01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,879
Speaker 3: Ward counselor also had kind of pulled up the blinds

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01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 3: so that you could see into the windows and you

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01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 3: could see into the doors as well. Once the meeting

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01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 3: got started, or when it was about to, they lowered

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: the blinds down again and they started the meeting, and

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01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 3: the protests were protested outside and they were singing while

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01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: the meeting was continuing, and then the Maori Ward Counselor

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Speaker 3: was warned that if she continued to operate in a

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01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 3: disorderly way, she would be removed from the meeting. The

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01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 3: meeting went on for an hour and then they had

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01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 3: to abandon it again because the Maori Ward Counselor once

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01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 3: again got up and opened the meeting venue doors. She

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01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 3: went outside the meeting at this point to go in

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01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: toe talk call, which means support the protesters outside. At

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01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 3: that point, the counselors had to leave the room. They

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01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 3: had to have the police inside and outside. Then the

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Speaker 3: Mardi Ward Councilor came back in and then the meeting

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01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 3: was reconvened. And then the Maori Ward Councilor tried a

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01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 3: different method, which was to basically keep putting points of order.

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01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: And Nati Fatsua then also previous to the meeting, filed

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01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: a judicial review against the council's decision to try to

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01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: stop it. But in the end, despite all of the

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01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 3: efforts from the protesters of the Mardi Ward Counselor and

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01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 3: Nazi Fatua, in the end the ward was disestablished anyway.

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01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 3: But I just want to say, right, you can choose

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01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 3: one of two ways to be able to get what

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01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 3: you want. One way is this kind of stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 3: protest is fine, but one way is but being disruptive

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Speaker 3: and wasting police time and all that other stuff that's

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01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 3: kind of borderline. It's starting to get irritating and not great.

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Speaker 3: You can choose that way and the shooting way and

1915
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 3: all the other ways it's been going on lately, or

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01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 3: you can just use the democratic process. If you're so

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Speaker 3: keen on Maori Wards being established again, vote for a

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Speaker 3: party that's going to bring them in again. That's how

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01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 3: it works. That's how they got disestablished again because people

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Speaker 3: voted for the National Party and that party and the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand First Party and got rid of them. There's

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01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 3: always a democratic way to get what you want. You

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Speaker 3: don't have to use the other methods. Sixteen away from seven,

1924
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Speaker 3: crunching the numbers.

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Speaker 2: And getting the results. It's Heather Duplicy Ellen with the

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Speaker 2: Business Hours thanks to my HR, the HL platform for

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Speaker 2: sim On News Talk CIV.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gray is our UK correspondent this evening. Welcome back, Devin,

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Speaker 3: Hi there, Hea.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So unfortunately more gatherings planned for this evening in the UK.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah, people I think holding their breath a little

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Speaker 28: bit about what is going to happen, because there are

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Speaker 28: claims up to thirty potentially forty right wing far right

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Speaker 28: gatherings are being planned tonight and they are across the

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Speaker 28: country and in some of the major cities, but also

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Speaker 28: some of the areas that I think have been potentially

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Speaker 28: very very annoyed by the housing of asylum seekers and

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Speaker 28: those crossing the channel illegally in hotels near them, So

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Speaker 28: plenty of hotels being targeted as well. The Prime Minister

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Speaker 28: held is second Cobra or emergency meeting with ministers and

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Speaker 28: heads of staff, security and police yesterday. He says communities

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Speaker 28: will be safe and announced more than four hundred arrests

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Speaker 28: that have already been made. One hundred people have been

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Speaker 28: charged in connection with the disorder. They're beginning to trickle

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Speaker 28: through the courts now and six thousand public order officers

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Speaker 28: are being mobilized to respond tonight are times six thousands.

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Speaker 28: They've also made five hundred extra prison places available in

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Speaker 28: order to ease the pressure on the justice system here.

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Speaker 28: But quite extraordinary and already riotly standby forces setting up

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Speaker 28: neighborhood policing patrols, teams of detectives, drawing up on CCTV

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Speaker 28: and body worn footage and using facial recognition to try

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Speaker 28: and pin down those who are responsible.

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Speaker 3: Devin, what was the straight to the t shock about.

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Speaker 28: Well, of course we're not alone in this sudden Veer

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Speaker 28: two getting violent about migration and asylum in Ireland. Over

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Speaker 28: the last few weeks they've had an ongoing pressure there

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Speaker 28: where so many migrants have arrived, some incidentally coming from

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Speaker 28: the UK and getting into Ireland over the land border

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Speaker 28: with Northern Ireland, and plenty of people. They're just saying,

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Speaker 28: can't get hospital, can't get housing, can't get anything, and

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Speaker 28: pressure preferences being given to migrants. In this particular instance,

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Speaker 28: the Ta shock as he's called, the Irish Prime Minister

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Speaker 28: Simon Harris and his wife have had a threat against them.

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Speaker 28: It's thought there was a mention of knives on an

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Speaker 28: Instagram post about them, and he says he won't be

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Speaker 28: deterred from doing his job. But actually it comes just

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Speaker 28: a couple of days after a van was rammed into

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Speaker 28: the gates of his department, a big sort of rather

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Speaker 28: grand building with big wrought iron gates. Yeah, van rammed

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Speaker 28: into those. And it was six weeks since a hoax

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Speaker 28: bomb threat was made at Simon Harris's family home in

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Speaker 28: County Wicklow. Also, so many high profile Irish policy fish

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Speaker 28: have had crowds of people gathering outside their home shanting

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Speaker 28: things and all this really predominantly carrying anti immigration banners

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Speaker 28: and wearing masks. As I said, it's not just the weather,

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Speaker 28: the summer weather that's hot here. It is also the

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Speaker 28: tension and the heat that's brought about with the asylum process.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, At that Polish guy who punched in Mark's

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Speaker 3: prime minister apparently can't remember doing it, Kenny, No, no,

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Speaker 3: So you.

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Speaker 28: May remember that the Prime Minister of Denmark, Meta Frederickson,

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Speaker 28: suffered minor neck and shoulder injury. She was walking out

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Speaker 28: and about and she was simply punched by a man.

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Speaker 28: Is her or the security detail were there but didn't

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Speaker 28: manage to prevent an attack because it sort of came

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Speaker 28: out of the blue. And the suspects, who can't be

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Speaker 28: named for legal reasons, but we've been believed to be

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Speaker 28: a Polish man, has gone on trial in Copenhagen the

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Speaker 28: Danish capital charge with violence against a public servant and

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Speaker 28: several counts of indecent exposure and fraud relating to other incidents. Now,

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Speaker 28: what he's saying is that he remembers he was having

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Speaker 28: a bad day, He remembers approaching the prime minister, but

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Speaker 28: then doesn't remember ending until being effectively arrested and so yeah,

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Speaker 28: he can't remember rending. We'll wait to see where this

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Speaker 28: goes with the court. But interestingly made Frederickson, the Prime Minister,

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Speaker 28: won't have to give evidence, which probably spares quite some

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Speaker 28: political embarrassment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, I Gevin, thank you so much, really

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Gevin Gray, UK correspondent gies you'd think you'd

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Speaker 3: remember punching the Danish Prime minister, or maybe it's just convenient.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that guy from the Capitol Riots who

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Speaker 3: became like the emblem of it, The guy who was

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Speaker 3: in all the picture do you know, the one with

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Speaker 3: the horns and the fury stuff and all the paint

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Speaker 3: on his face and stuff like that. That guy, the

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Speaker 3: QAnon Shaman as he's called. That guy's just want a

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Speaker 3: court case against the Department of Justice because the Department

2009
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Speaker 3: of Justice has been hanging on to his helmet and

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Speaker 3: his spear this whole time, and he's wanted it back,

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Speaker 3: and so he's gone to the courts by the looks

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Speaker 3: of things, and the court has ruled that the Department

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Speaker 3: of Justice has not proved why he needs to keep it,

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Speaker 3: so needs to give it back to him. Eight away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's macro, MicroB or just plain economics.

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Speaker 1: It's all on The Business Hour with Heather Duplessy Allen

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Speaker 1: and my HR, the HR platform for sme US.

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Speaker 2: Talks a B.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's five away from seven, Okay. I got to

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Speaker 3: get you across what's happening overnight in the Olympics. So

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell you the metal stuff, really,

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Speaker 3: because that's the most important stuff. So Thomas Saunders is

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Speaker 3: in the sailing. He's going to be on at quarter

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Speaker 3: past eleven this evening hits that's a medal race. That's

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Speaker 3: the one person dinghy. Then you've got Michael Wilkinson in

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Speaker 3: the sailing at quarter to one in the morning. That's

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Speaker 3: a metal race. Obviously. Why am I saying it's a

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Speaker 3: metal race. I told you the only metal races. Before

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Speaker 3: quarter past four, you've got the pole vault. That's Eliza McCartney,

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Speaker 3: imogen A Rus and Olivia McTaggart final obviously. And then

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Speaker 3: if you're still awake seventeen minutes past five, you have

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Speaker 3: got the track cycling team pursuit women. That's a bronze

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Speaker 3: medal final. And then five twenty eight am, well you

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Speaker 3: might be getting up for this actually five twenty eight

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Speaker 3: am Team Pursuit Women Gold medal finals, so there's plenty

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Speaker 3: going on. We might as you come away with some

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Speaker 3: medals this evening fingers crossed.

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Speaker 31: Heither, after you've watched all that, make sure you just

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Speaker 31: quickly take a nap because you'll need to be nice

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Speaker 31: and fresh for our show when it comes on at fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where we can discuss all of the drama. Hither

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Speaker 3: off topic. I wanted to thank you for the recommendation

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Speaker 3: of Colin from accounts. Hey watched four episodes last night.

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Speaker 3: I laughed so hard it was good laughs. You are

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Speaker 3: welcome Kerrie anytime. Just stay tuned and I'll just tell

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Speaker 3: you all the good stuff to watch, because it's all

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Speaker 3: I watch. I haven't got the patience to watch nonsense anymore. Ants.

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Speaker 31: The finalists for the seventeenth National Wayata Marii Music Awards

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Speaker 31: have been announced.

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Speaker 3: This is one of them.

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Speaker 31: This is Paradise by Cottery, which the song is up

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Speaker 31: for Best Song and the Cottery are up for Best

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Speaker 31: Marley Songwriters as well. Some of the other people in

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Speaker 31: the mix Corella One Drop Nation, Seth Harpo and a Coddington, Mahina,

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Speaker 31: Lawrence and Mohi and those awards happened on September the sixth.

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Speaker 3: Are you pronouncing Kosherie writer or is it Kochierie?

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Speaker 31: I thought it was cottery, but yeah, two T one

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Speaker 31: It would be appropriate than a story about Marley language

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Speaker 31: that I managed to stuff up the English word.

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Speaker 3: That would be two T one t there's just one.

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Speaker 3: There's Kocherie as German. Isn't that Coacherie? Oh yeah, like

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Speaker 3: a great it's an okay chap, apologies to everyone anyway.

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Speaker 3: It could be Kocherie. Who knows which is that's a

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Speaker 3: bit sexy. If it is Coacherie, so good on them. Okay,

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Speaker 3: thanks for that and it appreciate it. See you tomorrow

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Speaker 3: and you still too be.

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Speaker 2: It feels like summer again.

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Speaker 24: Just fine to feel.

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Speaker 2: It feels like summer again.

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Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow

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