1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,387 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB penty. 3 00:00:13,347 --> 00:00:16,587 Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup Final since twenty ten not. 4 00:00:16,747 --> 00:00:23,187 Speaker 3: Enough and New Zealand Legends, Susie Biggs, Sophie Divine here 5 00:00:23,307 --> 00:00:26,267 Speaker 3: to who who have turned the tables on the Western 6 00:00:26,347 --> 00:00:30,467 Speaker 3: Leies And finally they have exercised the gorse of twenty 7 00:00:30,587 --> 00:00:36,787 Speaker 3: sixteen and they are into the final well BICC Women's 8 00:00:36,787 --> 00:00:39,907 Speaker 3: T twenty World Cup twenty twenty. 9 00:00:39,587 --> 00:00:42,867 Speaker 2: Four three o'clock tomorrow morning. They'll face South Africa in 10 00:00:42,907 --> 00:00:46,147 Speaker 2: the final. White Ferns all Round. Amilely Kerr has had 11 00:00:46,147 --> 00:00:49,507 Speaker 2: a superb tournament, particularly with the ball, and she joins 12 00:00:49,587 --> 00:00:51,787 Speaker 2: us now on Weekend Sport. Mellie, thanks for taking our call. 13 00:00:52,667 --> 00:00:56,227 Speaker 2: New Zealand will play in the T twenty World Cup final. 14 00:00:56,347 --> 00:00:59,147 Speaker 2: Is that a sentence that you thought you'd be hearing 15 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:00,427 Speaker 2: a fortnight or so ago. 16 00:01:02,587 --> 00:01:05,187 Speaker 4: It's a great sentence used to be able to hear 17 00:01:05,307 --> 00:01:09,347 Speaker 4: now that we're here. You know, obviously it had been 18 00:01:09,387 --> 00:01:12,507 Speaker 4: a tough year for us, but I think world Cups 19 00:01:12,667 --> 00:01:16,467 Speaker 4: anything can happen. There's obviously more pressure one off games 20 00:01:16,507 --> 00:01:18,867 Speaker 4: and you know this World Cup you've probably seen a 21 00:01:18,867 --> 00:01:23,907 Speaker 4: lot of results that haven't been expected and it's one 22 00:01:23,987 --> 00:01:27,267 Speaker 4: great for the women's game, I think. But we've always 23 00:01:27,267 --> 00:01:29,547 Speaker 4: had the belief that we can get to this position 24 00:01:29,627 --> 00:01:31,787 Speaker 4: and have the chance to win a World Cup with 25 00:01:31,867 --> 00:01:35,547 Speaker 4: the players we have, and yeah, to be here now 26 00:01:35,867 --> 00:01:38,467 Speaker 4: after a tough yet pretty special. 27 00:01:38,627 --> 00:01:41,947 Speaker 2: What do you think you've done particularly well as a 28 00:01:41,987 --> 00:01:43,627 Speaker 2: team at this World Cup. 29 00:01:46,627 --> 00:01:50,227 Speaker 4: I think one, we've taken a lot of learnings and 30 00:01:50,307 --> 00:01:54,107 Speaker 4: growth throughout the last year. We've trained really hard and 31 00:01:54,547 --> 00:02:00,467 Speaker 4: we've stayed positive despite what media has said and what 32 00:02:00,587 --> 00:02:04,027 Speaker 4: may have happened. But also I think during this World Cup, 33 00:02:04,187 --> 00:02:09,147 Speaker 4: I think our bowling units really clap. And I guess 34 00:02:09,307 --> 00:02:12,387 Speaker 4: the other thing is you've seen the likes of Eden Carson, 35 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:16,507 Speaker 4: Georgia plimer Is. He gave three really young players in 36 00:02:16,547 --> 00:02:19,707 Speaker 4: our groups step up on the world stage and they've 37 00:02:19,747 --> 00:02:22,867 Speaker 4: been outstanding. And I think this World Cup there's been 38 00:02:22,907 --> 00:02:26,667 Speaker 4: so many different contributors throughout and that's how it leads 39 00:02:26,707 --> 00:02:29,147 Speaker 4: to the results we've had and it's been awesome to see. 40 00:02:29,347 --> 00:02:30,947 Speaker 2: I want to talk a bit more about a couple 41 00:02:30,947 --> 00:02:32,427 Speaker 2: of those players in a seck, but can I ask 42 00:02:32,427 --> 00:02:34,827 Speaker 2: you about the semi final against the West Indies one 43 00:02:34,947 --> 00:02:39,427 Speaker 2: twenty eight for nine in your twenty overs in the innings, 44 00:02:39,467 --> 00:02:41,587 Speaker 2: break Mealy, did that feel like enough? 45 00:02:44,707 --> 00:02:47,267 Speaker 4: I mean you always want more runs to defend, but 46 00:02:47,387 --> 00:02:50,067 Speaker 4: actually I did think that will be enough and we 47 00:02:50,147 --> 00:02:54,667 Speaker 4: give ourselves a chance. I think at Charja the outfield 48 00:02:55,107 --> 00:02:57,587 Speaker 4: was really slow, so I think that one twenty eight 49 00:02:57,667 --> 00:03:01,387 Speaker 4: is actually almost like a one forty on that wicket, 50 00:03:01,467 --> 00:03:05,547 Speaker 4: and we knew if we bowled well and how we've 51 00:03:05,627 --> 00:03:08,227 Speaker 4: been bowling as group, that we were in the game. 52 00:03:08,307 --> 00:03:11,307 Speaker 4: And also, you know, you see that finals cricket, it's 53 00:03:11,347 --> 00:03:15,027 Speaker 4: those funny things of people when there's pressure involved. You know, 54 00:03:15,147 --> 00:03:18,987 Speaker 4: you can either go within yourself or you can express yourself. 55 00:03:19,027 --> 00:03:24,307 Speaker 4: Then I thought we were outstanding to start. Obviously Dotton 56 00:03:24,387 --> 00:03:26,227 Speaker 4: gave us a bit of a skier there, and the 57 00:03:26,227 --> 00:03:28,507 Speaker 4: way she can strike the ball, it doesn't matter about 58 00:03:28,747 --> 00:03:31,227 Speaker 4: a slow outfield when you can hit it into the stands. 59 00:03:31,267 --> 00:03:35,387 Speaker 4: But yeah, it was it was. I thought that one 60 00:03:35,427 --> 00:03:39,027 Speaker 4: twenty eight gave us a real shot to be able 61 00:03:39,027 --> 00:03:42,467 Speaker 4: to win the game. And yeah, we got across the line, 62 00:03:42,507 --> 00:03:45,867 Speaker 4: and you always want more, but yeah, at the halfway point, 63 00:03:45,987 --> 00:03:46,867 Speaker 4: definitely believed. 64 00:03:47,027 --> 00:03:49,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it turned out to be enough. That's for sure. 65 00:03:49,547 --> 00:03:52,547 Speaker 2: Can I take you back to the opening game against India, 66 00:03:52,707 --> 00:03:55,907 Speaker 2: a really comprehensive fifty eight run when you bowl them 67 00:03:55,907 --> 00:03:58,507 Speaker 2: out for one hundred and two in nineteen overs. How 68 00:03:58,587 --> 00:04:01,867 Speaker 2: much confidence did that win in your opening game give you. 69 00:04:03,947 --> 00:04:07,107 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a huge win when knew how important 70 00:04:07,107 --> 00:04:11,467 Speaker 4: that game was and having India and Australia first up, 71 00:04:11,547 --> 00:04:14,667 Speaker 4: you know kind of they were huge. So to put 72 00:04:14,707 --> 00:04:17,827 Speaker 4: India away like that was outstanding. I mean, Sophie was 73 00:04:17,987 --> 00:04:21,907 Speaker 4: with the bat set that total up and to bowl 74 00:04:21,907 --> 00:04:24,467 Speaker 4: a team out like that was some of world class 75 00:04:24,467 --> 00:04:28,427 Speaker 4: batters for one hundred was outstanding. But I think that's 76 00:04:28,467 --> 00:04:31,067 Speaker 4: been throughout the whole world cut This bowling unit has 77 00:04:31,107 --> 00:04:37,747 Speaker 4: been Yeah, this bowling unit has been so impressive. Everyone 78 00:04:37,867 --> 00:04:40,547 Speaker 4: steps up in their different roles at different times and 79 00:04:41,347 --> 00:04:43,547 Speaker 4: even not gone for many runs or keep picking up 80 00:04:43,587 --> 00:04:47,427 Speaker 4: key wickets, and it's been so good to see. And yeah, 81 00:04:47,707 --> 00:04:50,667 Speaker 4: come to the game tomorrow. You want to express yourself 82 00:04:50,707 --> 00:04:53,907 Speaker 4: again and play like there's nothing to lose, even though 83 00:04:53,947 --> 00:04:55,827 Speaker 4: there's a whole lot of pressure and it's a big, 84 00:04:56,067 --> 00:04:58,747 Speaker 4: big day. But that's what all the hard works for 85 00:04:58,907 --> 00:05:00,747 Speaker 4: and what you kind of dream of as a young kid. 86 00:05:01,107 --> 00:05:04,667 Speaker 2: We mentioned Eden Carson before three for twenty nine in 87 00:05:04,707 --> 00:05:07,987 Speaker 2: the semi final, three crucial ws and just you know, 88 00:05:08,307 --> 00:05:11,387 Speaker 2: a further development for her. What have you seen merely 89 00:05:11,507 --> 00:05:17,387 Speaker 2: from Eden Carson and her development as a bowler. 90 00:05:17,987 --> 00:05:20,867 Speaker 4: I think she just keeps getting better and better. We've 91 00:05:20,907 --> 00:05:24,107 Speaker 4: got great a great spin coach with us at the moment, 92 00:05:24,147 --> 00:05:27,947 Speaker 4: Paul Wiseman, and at camps, you know, they bowl a lot, 93 00:05:28,027 --> 00:05:32,147 Speaker 4: and I think she's been working on trying to turn 94 00:05:32,187 --> 00:05:34,307 Speaker 4: the ball more and getting a lot of overspin as 95 00:05:34,307 --> 00:05:38,187 Speaker 4: well as her her armble and you know, being an 96 00:05:38,187 --> 00:05:40,547 Speaker 4: off spinner bowling big overs in the power play and 97 00:05:40,587 --> 00:05:43,587 Speaker 4: the way she has is outstanding. And it's just about 98 00:05:43,627 --> 00:05:47,787 Speaker 4: backing herself and the plans we have and she's taken 99 00:05:47,827 --> 00:05:50,747 Speaker 4: it on. She's been She's been so important for us. 100 00:05:50,827 --> 00:05:54,947 Speaker 4: And it's so often to see the young players step part. 101 00:05:55,067 --> 00:05:57,907 Speaker 4: I think of you know Fran as well. It's just 102 00:05:58,427 --> 00:06:00,987 Speaker 4: they're pretty cool, calm and collected for the as they 103 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:04,427 Speaker 4: are and the experience I've had, and they're going to 104 00:06:04,507 --> 00:06:06,347 Speaker 4: have long careers for new Zellen and it's excited. 105 00:06:07,147 --> 00:06:11,347 Speaker 2: And what about Georgia Plummer, your Blaze teammate, Can you 106 00:06:11,747 --> 00:06:13,747 Speaker 2: give us a bit of you know, a bit of 107 00:06:13,747 --> 00:06:16,827 Speaker 2: insight into what you've seen from her and her growth 108 00:06:16,827 --> 00:06:19,987 Speaker 2: as a as a T twenty opener, because it's been well, 109 00:06:19,987 --> 00:06:21,707 Speaker 2: it hasn't been a straight line, has it. It's been 110 00:06:21,827 --> 00:06:24,027 Speaker 2: a bit of a rocky road for Georgia Plummer. 111 00:06:26,107 --> 00:06:29,547 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think one Georgie's resilience has been outstanding, and 112 00:06:30,107 --> 00:06:31,947 Speaker 4: you know, I get to see her a lot behind 113 00:06:31,947 --> 00:06:35,987 Speaker 4: the scenes, having getting to play with her at Wellington, 114 00:06:36,147 --> 00:06:40,107 Speaker 4: so I've always known her ability and how good she is. 115 00:06:40,107 --> 00:06:43,427 Speaker 4: She's also one of the hardest workers, and you know, 116 00:06:43,547 --> 00:06:47,507 Speaker 4: sometimes it takes an innings to help build that confidence 117 00:06:47,547 --> 00:06:51,387 Speaker 4: and I think that's fifty against Australia really really helped her. 118 00:06:51,427 --> 00:06:54,667 Speaker 4: But it's always been there. She's always played with positive 119 00:06:54,707 --> 00:06:57,947 Speaker 4: intent and I think T twenty cricket's pretty fickle, so 120 00:06:58,587 --> 00:07:01,027 Speaker 4: you know you're going to fail a little bit, especially 121 00:07:01,067 --> 00:07:03,867 Speaker 4: when you're being aggressive, and for her, she's stuck to 122 00:07:03,907 --> 00:07:07,147 Speaker 4: her game plan and the success and the awards happening 123 00:07:07,147 --> 00:07:10,027 Speaker 4: for her at the moment and that's so pleasing to see, 124 00:07:10,067 --> 00:07:12,827 Speaker 4: knowing how hard she's worked and the criticism she's faced. 125 00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:15,547 Speaker 4: But yeah, she's been so important for us up top 126 00:07:15,587 --> 00:07:19,547 Speaker 4: and the power play and she's setting the toe, So yeah, 127 00:07:19,587 --> 00:07:25,267 Speaker 4: it's awesome to see. And you know she's only twenty still, 128 00:07:25,627 --> 00:07:28,267 Speaker 4: so that's another player in our group that's got a 129 00:07:28,267 --> 00:07:29,547 Speaker 4: long career ahead of her. 130 00:07:30,387 --> 00:07:32,307 Speaker 2: Now, I know from experience you don't like talking about 131 00:07:32,307 --> 00:07:34,067 Speaker 2: yourself very much, but I'm going to ask you about 132 00:07:34,107 --> 00:07:38,427 Speaker 2: your bowling. Superb. The numbers themselves are terrific in terms 133 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:41,107 Speaker 2: of the wickets you've taken, your run spur over what's 134 00:07:41,147 --> 00:07:42,547 Speaker 2: going well for you at the bowl increase. 135 00:07:45,267 --> 00:07:49,427 Speaker 4: I guess over here the conditions probably suit spin a 136 00:07:49,427 --> 00:07:53,187 Speaker 4: lot more than I guess around the world and back home. 137 00:07:54,027 --> 00:07:58,027 Speaker 4: I am just really clearing my plans. I've got my 138 00:07:58,147 --> 00:08:00,947 Speaker 4: variation with my wrong and that's been coming out really well. 139 00:08:01,027 --> 00:08:04,987 Speaker 4: And I think also games been set up well in 140 00:08:05,067 --> 00:08:08,227 Speaker 4: terms of partnership bowl and I want to steep up 141 00:08:08,227 --> 00:08:10,067 Speaker 4: in the big moments and at the moment we don't 142 00:08:10,107 --> 00:08:11,587 Speaker 4: have the ball in hand. I've got a lot of 143 00:08:11,627 --> 00:08:15,267 Speaker 4: confidence in the work I've done and also just the 144 00:08:15,267 --> 00:08:18,627 Speaker 4: spin group we have. I absolutely love bowling. I think 145 00:08:18,667 --> 00:08:21,587 Speaker 4: in my career this is the most enjoyment I've had 146 00:08:21,707 --> 00:08:25,307 Speaker 4: with my bowling, and that comes down to the coaches 147 00:08:25,387 --> 00:08:27,747 Speaker 4: and also the spin group we have because they make 148 00:08:27,787 --> 00:08:28,467 Speaker 4: it so fun. 149 00:08:29,627 --> 00:08:32,067 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the last time you played South Africa. 150 00:08:32,147 --> 00:08:35,867 Speaker 2: It seems like an awfully long time ago in T twenty. Anyway, 151 00:08:36,987 --> 00:08:38,867 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a frame of reference here. How 152 00:08:38,867 --> 00:08:40,707 Speaker 2: do you reckon your match up against South Africa in 153 00:08:40,747 --> 00:08:42,187 Speaker 2: T twenty. 154 00:08:43,627 --> 00:08:47,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, we know South Africa quality cyber world class players, 155 00:08:47,987 --> 00:08:50,387 Speaker 4: and we did have a series against them a year 156 00:08:50,387 --> 00:08:52,947 Speaker 4: ago where we played There's a few rainouts, but we 157 00:08:52,987 --> 00:08:55,547 Speaker 4: played a couple of tea twenties and we actually played 158 00:08:55,587 --> 00:08:58,867 Speaker 4: quite well against them. Obviously, that's a year ago and 159 00:08:58,987 --> 00:09:04,627 Speaker 4: we're here now in completely different conditions, so we know 160 00:09:04,667 --> 00:09:06,987 Speaker 4: what they are capable of. There's so much footage now 161 00:09:07,067 --> 00:09:09,547 Speaker 4: that you know they'll be scouting us. We'll be doing 162 00:09:09,587 --> 00:09:11,947 Speaker 4: the same. And at the end of the day, I 163 00:09:11,987 --> 00:09:15,747 Speaker 4: think in those big pressure moments, it's almost about who 164 00:09:15,787 --> 00:09:18,387 Speaker 4: takes the first punch, Who's who's going to be the 165 00:09:18,427 --> 00:09:20,867 Speaker 4: most fearless, and that's what it's going to come down to, 166 00:09:21,067 --> 00:09:24,187 Speaker 4: and backing our skills and when it gets tough, trying 167 00:09:24,187 --> 00:09:26,467 Speaker 4: to stay level and stick together, which we've done so 168 00:09:26,547 --> 00:09:27,867 Speaker 4: well throughout this whole tournament. 169 00:09:28,427 --> 00:09:30,427 Speaker 2: It must be quite cool, is it because you know, 170 00:09:30,467 --> 00:09:32,027 Speaker 2: if you're in the final, you get to stay at 171 00:09:32,067 --> 00:09:34,587 Speaker 2: the stay at the hotel right till the end. You know, 172 00:09:34,627 --> 00:09:36,907 Speaker 2: everybody else is just about god home, but you guys, 173 00:09:37,227 --> 00:09:39,067 Speaker 2: you guys are still there. It must be quite a 174 00:09:39,307 --> 00:09:42,627 Speaker 2: it must be quite a cool feeling and air a 175 00:09:42,627 --> 00:09:45,627 Speaker 2: fairly excited camp of players as you look forward to 176 00:09:45,707 --> 00:09:46,107 Speaker 2: the final. 177 00:09:46,147 --> 00:09:51,547 Speaker 4: Is it definitely? I mean, we have all experienced the 178 00:09:51,587 --> 00:09:54,107 Speaker 4: feeling of being knocked out and having to tack our 179 00:09:54,107 --> 00:09:57,987 Speaker 4: bags and get out the next day. So it's a 180 00:09:58,107 --> 00:10:01,627 Speaker 4: much better position to be in today where you know, 181 00:10:01,707 --> 00:10:03,707 Speaker 4: we've got one more game, it's the last game, and 182 00:10:03,707 --> 00:10:08,027 Speaker 4: we have a chance to do something pretty special, and yeah, 183 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:12,947 Speaker 4: who would have thought? And it's it's awesome for I 184 00:10:12,947 --> 00:10:15,987 Speaker 4: think our country, for New Zealand, we've showing this fight 185 00:10:16,147 --> 00:10:19,827 Speaker 4: and this determination that I think so many Kiwis show 186 00:10:19,907 --> 00:10:23,707 Speaker 4: and the resilience which I think represents our nation in 187 00:10:23,747 --> 00:10:28,427 Speaker 4: our country so well. So bring on Sunday. It's exciting 188 00:10:28,507 --> 00:10:32,147 Speaker 4: and we know that the country is behind us also, 189 00:10:32,187 --> 00:10:34,507 Speaker 4: but we also want to Dylan crowd well. 190 00:10:34,547 --> 00:10:35,987 Speaker 2: I know there'll be a lot of alarms set for 191 00:10:35,987 --> 00:10:37,987 Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning Monday morning, merely to get 192 00:10:38,067 --> 00:10:40,987 Speaker 2: up and see if you can take that one final step. 193 00:10:41,147 --> 00:10:43,467 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for chatting to us as always, congratulations 194 00:10:43,467 --> 00:10:44,867 Speaker 2: on when you are the team of a Chief. So far, 195 00:10:44,947 --> 00:10:47,587 Speaker 2: Let's hope there's one more, one more terrific performance and 196 00:10:47,627 --> 00:10:49,227 Speaker 2: you look forward to seeing how you go in the final. 197 00:10:49,907 --> 00:10:54,827 Speaker 2: Thanks Jas, Thanks Melee Kerr. There Amelia kur No One 198 00:10:54,867 --> 00:10:57,707 Speaker 2: most commonly is Mealy though and a big part of 199 00:10:57,747 --> 00:11:01,107 Speaker 2: this New Zealand side for quite some time. Three o'clock 200 00:11:01,147 --> 00:11:04,747 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, New Zealand against South Africa and the T 201 00:11:04,747 --> 00:11:06,067 Speaker 2: twenty Cricket World Cup Final. 202 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:09,867 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 203 00:11:09,987 --> 00:11:13,267 Speaker 1: to news Talks at B Weekends from midday, or follow 204 00:11:13,307 --> 00:11:14,907 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio