1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: So we have an overhaul of conservation law. The government 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: is looking to update the current Act, which has hardly 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: been touched in thirty seven years. Public feedback wanted on 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: proposals which include charging for access to dockland and reducing 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: red tape for tourism. The Conservation Minister is Toma Potucker, 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: who's with us. Good morning, chadlem Mike, very well. Indeed, 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: as regards conservation, what are you looking to do legislatively here? 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Is this a tidy up or an overhaul? 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: This is really reform. First thing is we want to 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: change the planning and concession system, just make it easier 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: for people to do business and run their conservation sort 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: of aspirations on the estate. The second thing is we're 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: looking at charging some people to go to some places 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: around their state so we can have a bit more 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: pootier to get the jobs done. 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: I was going to say, how much of it's about 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: just basic revenue generation you need more dough. 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of it is, but a lot of it 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: is making it easier and simpler for people to do 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: things on their state. It's a lot of tape out 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: there and we need to get rid of some of them. 22 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Why has it been so long, so many decades before 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: somebody has looked at this. 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think very few ministers and previous governments have 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: really had an appetite to do it. And as you know, 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: we want to get the country back on track. And 27 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: that's why I put my hand up to the promise 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: and said, okay, let's go. 29 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: And what's the timeline on this. 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: I look at the feedback by the end of February, 31 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: so a couple of months, and then we'll start forming 32 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: the policy a bit more firm and introduced central legislation. 33 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Are you expecting angst? 34 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: I think there will be a lot of concerns, especially 35 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: when we talk about access charging and asking people to 36 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: pay to go to certain places. But those international bills, well, 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: some people believe it's there and hand it right to 38 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: go to places for free. I think on the other side, 39 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of facilities. 40 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: And exactly, I mean I should be I should. 41 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Be tracked in state highway. 42 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Mate, yeah, exactly, But but I mean how can I 43 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: how can people count see that if you've dug a 44 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: track or put a bridge across the river, someone's got 45 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: to pay for that. 46 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: And if you go the seas is even like Australia, 47 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: the years rock and costsko Bans in Canada, Yellowstone in America. 48 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: You paid to go to those places. So we're talking 49 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: about getting out there, getting people's views and then we'll 50 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: see how we go. 51 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: Okay, a couple of things while I've got to you, 52 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: do you realize the Department of Conservation is one of 53 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: the slowest payers and if so, why and what are 54 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: you doing about it? 55 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: Yes? I do. There are some practices and the Department 56 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Conservation need to be improved. The Director General has been 57 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: given a message from me. We need to start moving 58 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: on us and make sure we're paying the time and manner. 59 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: And there's no excuse for it, is there? Is it 60 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: lack of resource? Do they not care? I mean, you 61 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: know paying a bill is not hard if you want to, 62 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: is it? 63 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely? I think some agencies are better payers than others, 64 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: and sermainly are off to be up there with the best. 65 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Right. And then yesterday, how'd you feel about it? 66 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: I think Sarah consisted there's a lot of tension. I've 67 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: provided my views in response to the questions, but I 68 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: think we need to get the country moving back on 69 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: track and need to get to equality of opportunity. That's 70 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: my quest in the house, and that's what I want 71 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: to do and focus on that rather than a few 72 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: other diversions. 73 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Was there any excuse for what unfolded? 74 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: I think the Speaker and only that took to speak 75 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: as responsibility. He's observed that there's a lot of disordery, 76 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: conduct and behavior in the house yesterday, and I expect 77 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: that he'll be pretty feminist and is carrying through his observations. 78 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: Appreciate time Conservation Minister time A Potucker. 79 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 80 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 81 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.