1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Got another update on Auckland's housing density plans. First it 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: was a promise of two million new homes, then it 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: was scaled back to one point six million new homes, 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: and now it's been scaled back again to one point 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: four million new homes. Chris Bishop is the Housing Minister. 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: High bish, good afternoon. 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Okay, why's it gone down again? 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: We wanted to achieve consensus and make sure we put 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: this issue to bed once and for all. It's really 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: important that Auckland continues to grow and it grows in 11 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: the right places around train stations and the city center, 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: the metro centers, the places where people think it should 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: grow and where the infrastructure exists. And that's what the 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: Auckland Plan will allow to happen. And I think it's 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: a good step forward for Auckland. 16 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Okay, So which suburbs are now not going to be affected? 17 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, those are issues for Auckland Council to deal with. 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: And the really important point is that Auckland is allowed 19 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: to plan its own city. As a central government. We've said, look, 20 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: you've got to grow around train stations, you've got to 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: grow around busways, you've got to grow in the central 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: city and you've got to grow in metro centers, you know, 23 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: where people go and live, work and play. But beyond that, 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: where exactly the housing goes. That's over to you as 25 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: a city. And it's important that Auckland communities take ownership 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: of this. An Auckland Council takes ownership. We don't want 27 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: to micromanage and plan Auckland. That's an issue for Auckland. 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: Who asked for it to be reduced from one point 29 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: six to one point four. 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: It was a cabinet decision to do that because we 31 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: thought it would create greater consensus and certainty. But I 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: do want to cons at whom consensus across the government 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: and across Auckland with the council to make sure that 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: we can move forward in this and finally put this 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: issue to bed once and for all. 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Dam or ask for this. 37 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Well we achieve consensus as a cabinet and as a government, 38 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: which is what we are always aiming to do and 39 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: with the council. And I do want to stress though 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: that the existing legal requirements around train stations will mean 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: that the number will settle at about one point six. 42 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: That's what the officials tell me. It will end up being. 43 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: Seeing what's the point of saying it's one point four. 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: If it's going to be one point. 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: Six, well the legal minimum will be one point four, 46 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: but it will end up at about one point six. 47 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, could you have made a complicated situation 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: even more complicated? Bish? 49 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: Oh? Trust meet, We definitely could ways to make this 50 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: way more complicated than it already has. I mean, this 51 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: is like rim a gymnastics. It's really complicated stuff. Okay, 52 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: now I'm trying to keep it simple for people. 53 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Listen, just really quickly. On the Sunday night meeting that's 54 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: got everybody excited. What was this was the Sunday night 55 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: meeting about leadership? 56 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about a Sunday night meeting. I mean, 57 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: we as ministers and senior politicians, we get together and 58 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: talk all the time. And I mean I was talking 59 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: to people this weekend, and I talk to people every 60 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: weekend because we're looking at what's the captain agenda coming up, 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: and what's coming up during the course of the week, 62 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: and you know, planning what's going to happen. So you know, 63 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: if there's a meeting on a Sunday, there's nothing particularly 64 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: unusual about that. I mean, there wouldn't be a Sunday 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: that goes by that I don't talk to Nicola and 66 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: Christopher and some in and the rest of the senior team. 67 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm on the phone to them all the time. 68 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: All right, Bish, thank you very much as always. Put 69 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: that one to bed then, Chris Bishop, Housing, Minister. 70 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 71 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: News Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.