1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Right now, call logics called our Construction Price Index has 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: recorded the first drop in construction costs in twelve years 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: since the index started looking at prices. This should mean 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: that we get cheaper houses when we're building right Joining 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: me now is the new Zealand Certified Builders Chief executive 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Malcolm Fleming. Malcolm, what does it mean? 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Look? The drop in building us means it's a great 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: time time for home book owners to consider a building project. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Global supply chains are no longer disrupted, so costs are 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: returning to where they were pre pandemic and falling demand 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: for building materials has led to manufacturers and distributives becoming 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: more competitive with they're product pricing. So home ruwners can 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: now be more discerning about the builder engage to set 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: their building project up for success. Home owners would be 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: insisting on a trade qualified builder is aligned to the 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: Trade association because they have a choice. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Now, what does it mean for trade's wages? Are they 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: going down or are they just not rising at the 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: same rate? 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: Wages generally have stabilized four point one percent was the 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: last on that in terms of statistics, there has been 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: a slow down and the wage rises generally a constant sector. 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: Material costs are coming down, as we've just been talking about, 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: and part of an example of that is manufacturers and 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: disputed distributors of building products are becoming more competitive. So 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: in action, what we're seeing is merchants approaching our members 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: about opening your accounts with them at attractive pricing, and 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: that's something we never saw costs twenty and twenty twenty two. 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: This is all good news. Does this mean that we're 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: going to see cheaper that you first into the first 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: homes or new homes cheaper? 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: I think we're going to see some of those costs 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: coming through. Another driver behind this as well as subcontractor 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: margins are under pressure as demand is for so subcontractor 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: margins are a lot higher and more elastic than a 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: builder's margin, and downward movement in that space has an impact, 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: and that's what we're starting to see now. So again, 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: a really good time for the homeland and consider a 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: building project. 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: Malcolm, Thanks for your time. Malcolm Fleming with us this morning, 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: the New Zealand Certified Builders Chief Executive. 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: For more from. 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: News Talks B listen live on air or online and 44 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: keep our shows with you wherever you go with our 45 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: podcasts on iHeartRadio,