1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business, Mariel's. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Argo correspondence with us right now heymas. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: And very good afternoon, Heaven. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: So tell me more about the Victorian government apologizing for colonization. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is being reported over here this afternoon by 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Sky News. Has been a news release from the government 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: saying that yes, an apology will be made formal apology 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: in the Parliament to indigenous people from Victoria. The apology 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: will be made for quote the harm inflicted upon them 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: through the actions and inactions of the state and the 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: colony that came before it. Now, the apology is a 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: key recommendation of the europe It's called a europe Justice Commission, 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: and it was a key part of the treaty that 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: was recently signed to law a couple of weeks back now, 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: the first such treaty in Australian history ever, and it 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: does formally acknowledge past and justice. It sets up new 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: institutions for accountability and telling the truth about what really 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: happened centuries ago. And basically it allows First Nations people 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: to actually have a bit more of a say in 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: the decision making that directly affects them. Now, critics are 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: all over this. I was wishy washy, you know, it's 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: just it's that it's the federal decision that was knocked 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: back by the people. But at the state level, the 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: supporters say, it's actually a wonderful achievement, the great outcome 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: and the process that started here the back in twenty sixteen, 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: the state governments also committed to including a whole bunch 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: of new stuff in the education curriculum, which I suppose 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: in a way that mirrors what's happened in New Zealand 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: in terms of using traditional names, indigenous names for areas, 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: for regions, for waterways and the like, and other measures 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: to basically improve outcomes for Victoria's Aboriginal people. So I 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: suppose the proof's going to be in the eating right there, pudding. 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: It looks pretty nice according to the supporters, But let's 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: see how it actually young. 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: But so are they. So it's not so much that 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: the apologizing for colonization. They're apologizing for what they consider 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: to be the evils that were done in the process 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: of colonization very much. 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: So, yeah, what's my interpretation of it. I mean, that's 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: the way the treaty reads that. Yes, I mean, you know, 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, but James Cook, the first fleet was not 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: the first people in Australia. They've been there for sixty 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: five thousand years. And the you know, the Europeans who 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: arrived on the first eleven ships, most of them convicts. 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: It was the start of you know, many people say oppression, 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: the start of dispossession of land and waterways and the 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: things that matter to Indigenous Australians. So it's a very 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: divisive issue, as you might expect. Those and the rights say, oh, 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: it's buddy nonsense, it's rubbish those who are more progressive. 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: So it's actually it's a very good thing. It's a 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: good thing the state can acknowledge past injustice. So it 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: just remains to be seen how this, you know, I mean, 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: how's it going to play out? 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: That's what we all want to Yeah, yeah, you're right, 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: We've got to see the wording of the thing to 57 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: really judge it. Now, what's happened to Barnaby Joyce that 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: he hasn't gone off with his girlfriend Pauline? 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: Well, she cooked a misteak dinner the other night in 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: the sandwich maker, would you believe it? 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Sandwich. But be that as it may. Yes, he is 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: now formally ended. He's been in Parliament twenty years. He 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: is one of the safest seats in Australia. The people 65 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: of Northern New South Wales and his seat, and you 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: that they love him even though he's a fair nakhm. 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: You're thinking a guy's just a lunatic. And I mean 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: even as one of his own supporters when it was 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: closest mates in Parliament accused him the other day of 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: having attention deficit syndrome. I mean, he just wasn't being 71 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: talked about enough. So, yes, he's quit after twenty years 72 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: with the Nationals. He's going to defect from the party. 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Looks like he's going to sit as an independent for 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: the moment. He'll keep trailing his coat with Pauline looking 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: for a headline here and there. Anyway, it's it's what's 76 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: it matter. I mean, the guys that has been really 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, his people up in his electorate love him. 78 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: No one in Parliament does. He's just a bit of 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: a joke, sad joke, sadly maz. 80 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to seeing 81 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: how that goes down with the two of them, Murray 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: Old's Australia correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, 83 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio