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Speaker 1: Let's welcome to the program, Kate hawks Be and Tim Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Does that.

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Speaker 3: Go okay?

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Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I cannot believe you

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Speaker 4: sent Sam out in this weather. Boss Auckland is experiencing

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Speaker 4: to go get you a coffee, which I see to

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Speaker 4: say was probably just blown to smithereens and freezing cold

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Speaker 4: by the time he got back with it.

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Speaker 1: It's a very good point.

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Speaker 3: And then what did what did? What did he get called?

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Speaker 3: After putting you first and getting that coffee? What did

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Speaker 3: you call him?

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Speaker 1: George Russell?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I did? I said, you sound like George Russell. You're

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Speaker 1: a mona, You're a whiner. Because he came back, so

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Speaker 1: what No, just just to he came back soaked. No

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Speaker 1: he didn't. Well, he came but he claims he came

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Speaker 1: backsacked and that's what makes him George Russell esque because

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Speaker 1: he's a whiner. So what happened was we had the discussion.

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Speaker 1: Now this is where Will, our new boss, comes in,

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Speaker 1: and Will is still trying to ingratiate himself with the team.

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Speaker 1: So Will came in this morning, Will came up. Will

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Speaker 1: came in this morning. Because we're a clothes shop where

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Speaker 1: will came in this morning? He says, hey, guy, if

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Speaker 1: you want a coffee this morning, I'm happy to go

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Speaker 1: across and get it in the weather. And I thought,

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Speaker 1: good on them. Fair enough, because we've just had the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I said to Sam, I said, what are your feelings

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Speaker 1: visa v. Meteorological conditions and coffee? And he goes and

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Speaker 1: God bless Sam for the attitude. He said, I'm more

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Speaker 1: than happy to go. So at that point I went, no,

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Speaker 1: good attitude. I like it, and I said, of the two,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the closer one so that you don't

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Speaker 1: get as wet, because literally, the gap between leaving our

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Speaker 1: building and getting across the road is about three and

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Speaker 1: a half to five meters, so at pace you'd barely know.

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Speaker 1: It's a poor day with the atmospheric river we're experiencing

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Speaker 1: all over the country at the moment, unfortunately. So it's

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Speaker 1: all gone well until he came back and he went,

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Speaker 1: oh boy.

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Speaker 3: It's so he didn't so he doesn't sound like that.

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Speaker 3: Let's stop it.

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Speaker 1: Then he started referring to as the bomb, the bomb, the.

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Speaker 4: Bomb, And I was the same as Sam. I didn't

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Speaker 4: know until I went out in it how bad it is.

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Speaker 4: It's really wet and blowy and miserable and horrible and wintery.

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Speaker 4: It's just random ass. And the other thing I am

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Speaker 4: deeply concerned about now is does coffee addiction? Is it

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Speaker 4: sparling a bit out of control?

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Speaker 3: It does sound like am and mean again during fifty

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Speaker 3: eighteen fifty let's starts.

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Speaker 1: Let's break that down. Let's break that down. First of all,

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Speaker 1: the it's only on a Friday, is my secondary one

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Speaker 1: is only on a Friday. And the other one to

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Speaker 1: start the day, it's a gut cleanser, and everybody knows

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Speaker 1: cleansing your gut first thing in the morning is fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Spikes your cortisol is what it does, and you're not

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Speaker 4: meant to drink coffee on an empty stomach.

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Speaker 1: But it's a gut down.

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Speaker 2: First thing I thought you said it was a This

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Speaker 2: is why it's so ratty, so foul mouthed and so

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Speaker 2: unconscionable is because you're you're having cortisol for breakfast.

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Speaker 1: As opposed to eighteen dollars for two fifty grams. And

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Speaker 1: I would argue tim in terms of coffee. In terms

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Speaker 1: of certain things in life, you go quality over quantity

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Speaker 1: or just sheer price. Certain things you go price petrols,

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Speaker 1: for example, But coffee you can go a little bit extra. Wine,

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Speaker 1: you can go a little bit extra. Cut of meat,

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Speaker 1: you can go a little bit extra because of quality.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I'll concede that if you go and say sorry to

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Speaker 1: Sam in the break, Sorry, Sammy, I'll do it, you know, sorry.

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Speaker 3: Just as an impartial observer to all of this, I.

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Speaker 1: Was really impartial, Glenn Well.

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Speaker 3: I was feeling sorry for Sam when he first came

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Speaker 3: back and looked a little bit dragged.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and and you're blinking and that sort of thing, gasping.

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Speaker 1: But then the very fact that he then.

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Speaker 3: Went on to tell Kate and Tim about this exactly.

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Speaker 1: He's a whiner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Sorry, he's a traitor.

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Speaker 1: Listen to in the f one George always goes the

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Speaker 1: seats really hot, seats really hot. Oh, the seats so hot,

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Speaker 1: a bomb. I'm ringing the Herald. Sam sounds like my

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Speaker 1: sixteen year old son Mike does a job willingly, then

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Speaker 1: whins about it. Morning. My black coffee in the morning

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Speaker 1: is a very good antioxidant for your body. Tell the

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Speaker 1: lady who just said it's bad on an empty stomach.

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Speaker 1: So I tell the lady, come on, this is not

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Speaker 1: a weather bomb. We better rain a little bit of wind.

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Speaker 1: No right here in Christ to Mike, beautiful Suday, we're

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Speaker 1: waiting for you to join us.

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Speaker 4: Than you can.

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Speaker 3: We talk about twenty five years. Congratulations, like twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: I feel in this gag.

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Speaker 3: It's it.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, I feel like, I feel thank you,

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Speaker 1: You're very kind. I feel sort of fraudulent because it's

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Speaker 1: not sort of the complete story. It's just just at

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Speaker 1: this particular place, that's all. It's kind of I suppose that's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one stays anywhere for twenty five years anymore,

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Speaker 1: do they really? I guess.

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Speaker 3: But I want to know what you were thinking that

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Speaker 3: first morning when you sat down and you're sitting there

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Speaker 3: waiting watching it tech back. You would have been quite young.

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Speaker 3: You would have been what fifteen, So what was going

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Speaker 2: April?

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Speaker 1: Well, it was April first, twenty five years ago, but

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Speaker 1: it was for Saturday morning. I was doing Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: That was all I was doing at the time, so

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Speaker 1: I sort of probably wasn't thinking about anything. I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: yesterday morning sounds fun to me. This could be good.

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Speaker 1: Worked out. Okay, what would what.

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Speaker 3: Would the twenty five years older Mike say to that

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Speaker 3: callow teenager?

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Speaker 1: Now, well, he's not a callow teenager, because I'm sixty

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Speaker 1: minus twenty five. Work it out too, he was sixty

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Speaker 3: I he's actually gotten younger.

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Speaker 1: I did say earlier this morning. And it's one of

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Speaker 1: I have no real reason to understand why I got

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Speaker 1: quite interested in doing some stuff. You got anything, And

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Speaker 1: one wrote back and said, well, we've got this thing

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Speaker 1: And they sent me a test and I wrote some

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Speaker 1: and I thought that's quite good. And then after they

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Speaker 1: And I said sure. And so that was the end

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Speaker 1: of that. Rest like, could you think of carry on?

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Speaker 4: No, I was just going to say, the good thing

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Speaker 4: is that you enjoy it, like it's been fun the

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Speaker 4: whole way. I mean, COVID was testing I'll be honest,

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Speaker 4: that tested us. I don't know that broadcasting during COVID

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Speaker 4: was a fun time. That was a challenge. Good for

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Speaker 4: the ratings and you wanted to tear your hair out, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But it was hard yards.

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Speaker 1: But it was hard yard. Everything was hard yards for COVID.

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Speaker 1: But I got I just I just My main point

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Speaker 1: was I worry for people who have regret in something

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Speaker 1: that you spend so much time doing. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: not like it's like I played golf and I regret it,

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Speaker 1: like whippy, do you know this is your whole life.

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Speaker 1: This is like eight hours plus per day for forty

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Speaker 1: something you're busy regretting. I mean, what's the point of that. Well,

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Speaker 4: Don't have other options and choices. I mean, you're self said,

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Speaker 4: if you didn't do this, you have no idea what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if I was forced, I'd do something. So

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Speaker 1: discover I like it. And you're right, I mean.

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Speaker 3: You have in real estate.

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Speaker 4: Working in a wine shop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see, that's what the problem. I'd work in a

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Speaker 1: I've watched it.

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Speaker 4: I would just say my highlight of the week and

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Speaker 4: my person of the week. I don't know that you

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Speaker 4: played it on your show, but Whinston Peter's calling the

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Speaker 4: reporter a dickhead this week? Are we at Pete Winston?

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Speaker 4: Because I think I railed against him big time during

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Speaker 4: the election campaign. I thought he was just bad news,

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Speaker 4: bad news. Didn't want to borrow it. The sign of

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Speaker 4: an intelligent curious mind is someone who's able to be

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Speaker 4: open minded enough to change their mind. And I've completely

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Speaker 4: come full circle and I just now I just love

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Speaker 4: is at his peak, isn't he could?

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Speaker 1: I think, do you know what it is? He's found

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Speaker 1: his purpose and he's worked out two things. One this

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Speaker 1: is his final chance to look like a statesman. And

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Speaker 1: he's found his purpose. And he's on a plane every

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Speaker 1: he's on a good diet. And he's turning eighty and

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Speaker 1: he's thinking, man, I never thought i'd be here at

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Speaker 1: the age of eighty. Good on me. And he's on

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Speaker 4: He's very impressive for eighty.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. Sure, he sure is. He's a testament to

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Speaker 3: Benson and Hedges and good Scott.

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Speaker 1: Well isn't it. Because my understanding I'm getting the morning

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Speaker 1: I think he I think he's given up smoking. I

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Speaker 1: might be wrong. And I was also told he'd pretty

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Speaker 1: much given up drinking. No one really gives up drinking.

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Speaker 1: But he's certainly given up drinking. He certainly hasn't turned

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Speaker 1: up on this program. And this is the advantage of

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Speaker 1: having been around for forty four years. He used to

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Speaker 1: well that the green parrot had had a good night,

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Speaker 1: and whereas these days you just don't hear it. He's

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Speaker 1: too busy, too diligent, working too hard.

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Speaker 3: Age producers wisdom. It's actually why do we venerate the young?

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Speaker 4: And you're talking about people who stay in the same job.

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Speaker 1: Whereas you can look at some of them and go

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Speaker 3: And courageous too, like calling out that Benjamin Doyle those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that comes from the fact that he's got

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Speaker 1: Tim about Shakespeare and compulsion in school. You comfortable with

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Speaker 3: No? Absolutely, absolutely, And there was a comment sort of yes, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: to be unpacked, and if it has to be compelled,

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Speaker 1: Caddie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a fan of compulsion for kids at

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Don't like being forced to do things. But Shakespeare, I

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Speaker 4: did extra curricular Shakespeare. She enjoyed it so much. Wow,

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Speaker 4: when I did extra Shakespeare workshops and plays. I mean, it's.

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Speaker 1: Funny you should say that I didn't know that. How

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Speaker 1: much else goes on at home that I got no idea?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it was major. Do you want a

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Speaker 4: prize for it?

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Speaker 3: I remember that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was Shakespeare. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: something else. Anyway, listen, I got to mond of you guys.

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Speaker 1: I could stay here and talk to you forever, but

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