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Speaker 2: Hello, Yoder, good afternoon and a very very warm welcome

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Speaker 2: and to the Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News

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Speaker 2: Talks EDB. November twenty nine, would you believe Happy forty

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Speaker 2: fifth birthday to forty five Test All Blacks midfielder Aaron

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Speaker 2: and Wales football superstar Ryan Giggs. I'm Jason Pine, Show

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Speaker 2: producer Any McDonald. We are here until three talking sport

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Speaker 2: and we have officially reached the midway point of the

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Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup cycle. The end of season review for

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks as as we understand it now. Comment

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Speaker 2: So what form would a review like this typically take?

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Speaker 2: We'll get some expert insight after one o'clock this afternoon

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Speaker 2: from our coach in guru, Wayne Goldsmith. First up today

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Speaker 2: though nineteen seventy four, nineteen ninety and maybe twenty thirty four.

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Speaker 2: There is genuine optimism New Zealand might host the twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty four edition of the Commonwealth Games. New Zealand Olympic

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Speaker 2: Committee Chief Executive Nicky Nichol is standing by the chat

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Speaker 2: to us about this and then I'm very keen to

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this. Should we bid to host

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Speaker 2: the common Games? That feels like a yes to me?

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Speaker 2: But where do they sit in what is an increasingly

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Speaker 2: crowded sporting landscape. How do you contextualize the Commonwealth Games?

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Speaker 2: I want to chat about that with you. This our

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Speaker 2: other matters around today. New Zealand Cricket has a new president.

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Speaker 2: Former international batsman and Black Caps head coach Mark great

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Speaker 2: Batch has been being elected to the role on a

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Speaker 2: three year term. What is the role of the President

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Speaker 2: of New Zealand Cricket? Mark great Batch on the show

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Speaker 2: after two Royal Wellington Golf Club is going to host

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Speaker 2: the eighth edition of the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Golf

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Speaker 2: Championship in February next year, bringing together the region's elite

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Speaker 2: women amateur golfers competing for starts in three major championships.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out more from Nick Shan, assistant Director of

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Speaker 2: Asia Pacific at the RNA after two, going to preview

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Speaker 2: the Grand Final of Sale GP for you as well

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Speaker 2: our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock and his regular slot. Already,

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Speaker 2: I see they're starting to talk about dropping usmand Kwaja

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Speaker 2: and opening with Travis Head in the second Ashes Test

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Speaker 2: starting on Thursday, off the back of his heroics in

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Speaker 2: the first Test in Perth. What is that being greeted

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Speaker 2: with in terms of agreement or otherwise? And other Australian

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Speaker 2: sporting matters with Adam Peacock this afternoon Live Sport Today.

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Speaker 2: As you heard in our Sports News Day four of

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Speaker 2: And three matches in the domestic women's fifty over competition

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Speaker 2: Newstalk SEDB, dot co dot MZ. Just gone ten pasmid Day.

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Speaker 1: The scoop from the track, fields and the court on

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Speaker 1: talks NB.

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Speaker 3: Can he do it?

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Speaker 2: He's got the gold medal?

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Speaker 4: Oh way it flies.

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Speaker 5: Listen to the yell, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Look he's got it. He's running around right.

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Speaker 4: Home in the year.

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Speaker 3: Left down in the air, both arms in the air.

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Speaker 6: It's up beck one from Tom Wolfs.

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Speaker 2: He co'ts clear? The fe made is to swim cleamber

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Speaker 2: gold for Lewis Clambert. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 7: Swim like a butterfly, one like a Geway.

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Speaker 6: She's a leeerless leg that she's looking to get herself

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Speaker 7: Towing towards the line of Leasenter.

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Speaker 8: She's got gold.

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Speaker 7: And our standing race to Alessandriws.

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Speaker 10: Karen Chop shots down. It's Gold four Pool Cold Stetarma

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Speaker 10: Silverams two on the Gold Coast Gold at Birmingham, he.

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Speaker 2: Goes to his knees some of the golden moments from

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Speaker 2: the last Commonwealth Games in Birmingham twenty twenty two. Glasgow

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Speaker 2: is genuine optimism that New Zealand might host the twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty four edition of the Commonwealth Games, the first time

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Speaker 2: they would have been here in New Zealand since nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Olympic Committee Chief Executive Nicky Nichol is with

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Speaker 2: us on this. NICKI, thanks for your time. How keen

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Speaker 11: I figure it would be a fantastic opportunity, not only

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Speaker 11: New Zealand and you know, I can remember nineteen ninety

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Speaker 11: Ruguey Will Cup at twenty eleven, the women's World Cups

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Speaker 11: have had I mean, we do bigsport, and I think

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Speaker 11: for our athletes to have something like that to aim for.

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Speaker 11: You know, there'll be athletes that are still at school,

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Speaker 11: but it'll be pretty exciting. And forty four years between

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Speaker 2: Time, indeed, it is. So what is the process from

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, Commonwell's sport have been in this rebuild phase

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Speaker 11: you know a short while ago where we were really

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Speaker 11: exciting when you think about all of the interest that

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Speaker 11: but also means that they've actually got highrograph confidence because

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Speaker 2: So in terms of that, then a flexible event, what

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So what they've done is they've put a lot

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Speaker 11: more flexibility in the host and so some of the

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Speaker 11: confidence that they're on the schedule every time. So that's

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Speaker 11: flexibility and of course we can do sports that we

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Speaker 11: So those things are being more flexible. And what we're

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Speaker 11: don't need high capital, athletes are staying in hotels. So

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Speaker 11: make it more affordable and attractive to more nations as well.

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Speaker 2: Is the one city model definitely the way for there's

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Speaker 11: There definitely is the possibility for that, and it even

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Speaker 11: So these are some of the things that we've just

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Speaker 11: probably in their own could host a full Commonwealth Games.

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Speaker 11: But again these are all the ideas. We've got new

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Speaker 12: We know about.

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Speaker 11: We know the Hawks Bays got some native facilities, we

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Speaker 11: value proposition as well.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of cost, would you need significant central government

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Speaker 11: Definitely, and so it would definitely be a partnership with government.

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Speaker 11: And so that's what's been really supportive to this point

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Speaker 11: What was really interesting myself and our President Liz Dawson

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Speaker 11: While we're up there, you know, we know what trade,

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Speaker 11: you know the importance of Indias as a market. We

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Speaker 11: to support India as they prepare for twenty thirty as well.

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Speaker 11: So in the room they had federal, state, and city

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Speaker 11: And as we've seen with our government taking a real

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Speaker 11: to New Zealand, these are the sorts of things that

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Speaker 11: you know, the Indian government is really aspirational in this space.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you engage Metabad credentials and capability readiness

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Speaker 2: to host in twenty thirty.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and they were certainly very humble and reflected on

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Speaker 11: Nourenda Moodi Stadium one hundred and thirty two thousand seat capacity.

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Speaker 11: They hosted the Cricket World Cup there in twenty three.

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Speaker 11: They have got massive ambition and even the facilities I've

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Speaker 11: aspiration and ambition for them. From a capability perspective, you know,

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Speaker 2: Right, and just to finish back to the potential of

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, great to be having the conversation, Nikki. Thanks

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Speaker 9: Hi Jason, Yeah, that's exciting. I think about that, just

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I like the idea. There's sixty years. You

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Speaker 2: You heard NICKI mention the eight core sports that are

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Speaker 15: I think it's just and I thought we were broke,

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Speaker 2: field venue, that sort of stuff. We have to go

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Speaker 2: with what exists already. But yeah, that is a it

432
00:23:13,787 --> 00:23:18,627
Speaker 2: is a very salient point. If Victoria, this powerhouse of

433
00:23:18,667 --> 00:23:24,787
Speaker 2: Australasian and Asian sport, can't host the Commonwealth Games, then

434
00:23:25,147 --> 00:23:27,667
Speaker 2: there must be question marks over us doing it.

435
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Speaker 15: Yeah, and I agree with some of the comments that

436
00:23:30,867 --> 00:23:32,267
Speaker 15: you know about sort of you know, they're staying in

437
00:23:32,267 --> 00:23:34,587
Speaker 15: hotels because building a village is just ridiculous. But I

438
00:23:34,587 --> 00:23:36,667
Speaker 15: mean they've got the Vlodrome and Cambridge as well, so

439
00:23:36,747 --> 00:23:39,107
Speaker 15: like you know, the high performance sports socychic, so that

440
00:23:39,227 --> 00:23:43,627
Speaker 15: that's all all do it. But it's just you know, yeah,

441
00:23:43,747 --> 00:23:46,427
Speaker 15: just just the fact that there is there will be

442
00:23:46,587 --> 00:23:50,107
Speaker 15: a massive cost and it's just yeah, I don't know,

443
00:23:50,267 --> 00:23:53,667
Speaker 15: like and the other thing too, just quickly. Has anyone

444
00:23:53,787 --> 00:23:56,707
Speaker 15: really missed the Commonwealth Games? I haven't even really thought

445
00:23:56,707 --> 00:23:58,707
Speaker 15: about it until you brought it up today on your show.

446
00:23:58,947 --> 00:23:59,747
Speaker 14: I haven't missed it.

447
00:24:00,667 --> 00:24:02,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't. We haven't missed any of them. I

448
00:24:02,627 --> 00:24:04,747
Speaker 2: mean the twenty twenty two went ahead and so will

449
00:24:04,747 --> 00:24:08,347
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, so it's not like we have missed one.

450
00:24:08,387 --> 00:24:11,427
Speaker 2: I think what Nikki said was the prospect of not

451
00:24:11,587 --> 00:24:14,587
Speaker 2: having it kind of sharpened a few views on it.

452
00:24:15,267 --> 00:24:17,827
Speaker 15: So what I mean was like, have you have you

453
00:24:17,947 --> 00:24:21,467
Speaker 15: personally kind of like gone, oh, what happened to the

454
00:24:21,507 --> 00:24:24,747
Speaker 15: Commonwealth Games? That's what I meant about missing Yeah, yeah.

455
00:24:24,587 --> 00:24:27,187
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah put it this way, Bevan. I don't

456
00:24:27,187 --> 00:24:30,867
Speaker 2: think about the Commonwealth Games in between Commonwealth Games that much,

457
00:24:31,147 --> 00:24:34,107
Speaker 2: but when they come around. I do enjoy watching them, mate,

458
00:24:34,147 --> 00:24:36,387
Speaker 2: I do it, And I'm like, you made them a

459
00:24:36,467 --> 00:24:39,067
Speaker 2: bit of a sports a bit of a sports fanatic.

460
00:24:39,307 --> 00:24:42,707
Speaker 2: I'll watch anything good to get your insight mate, Yeah

461
00:24:42,707 --> 00:24:44,627
Speaker 2: and yeah. Yet that would have been a hard sell

462
00:24:44,907 --> 00:24:47,627
Speaker 2: and no wonder it was part of the downfall of

463
00:24:47,667 --> 00:24:49,427
Speaker 2: Dan Andrews saying hey, we're not going to host the

464
00:24:49,467 --> 00:24:51,307
Speaker 2: games and we have to give two hundred million dollars

465
00:24:51,347 --> 00:24:55,267
Speaker 2: to Glasgow of your money. Twenty eight away from one,

466
00:24:56,147 --> 00:24:58,547
Speaker 2: Aaron Carlos, please hold there. I want to get to

467
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Speaker 2: you after this O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

468
00:25:00,387 --> 00:25:03,867
Speaker 2: if you've got a view the contextualization of the Commonwealth Games,

469
00:25:03,867 --> 00:25:07,227
Speaker 2: where do they sit? And should we be looking at

470
00:25:07,227 --> 00:25:09,267
Speaker 2: bringing them here in twenty thirty four? Back with more

471
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Speaker 2: of your thoughts after this.

472
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Speaker 1: It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with Jason

473
00:25:15,027 --> 00:25:20,787
Speaker 1: Paine and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder NEWSTALGSB.

474
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Speaker 2: News talks the twenty five to one. Chris says, can

475
00:25:22,667 --> 00:25:24,627
Speaker 2: we just bloody do it? I think of that fun

476
00:25:24,707 --> 00:25:26,547
Speaker 2: New Zealm was during the twenty eleven World Cup, the

477
00:25:26,627 --> 00:25:29,427
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety Colm Games. We never get the opportunity we

478
00:25:29,467 --> 00:25:31,347
Speaker 2: need it for the local morale. Boos something to look

479
00:25:31,387 --> 00:25:33,627
Speaker 2: forward to Let's be honest, we might be getting Rugby

480
00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:35,947
Speaker 2: World Cup again. Chris. I like your way of thinking.

481
00:25:36,747 --> 00:25:39,347
Speaker 2: It doesn't take into account a number of factors, but

482
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Speaker 2: I just I just really like the Can we just

483
00:25:42,147 --> 00:25:44,267
Speaker 2: bloody do it approach?

484
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Speaker 4: Aaron?

485
00:25:45,307 --> 00:25:46,547
Speaker 2: Hi, mate, thanks for holding.

486
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Speaker 16: Grudging Yes, we will get the Rugby World Cup. It's

487
00:25:51,907 --> 00:25:54,907
Speaker 16: the New Zealand's spiritual home of rugby, so it's just

488
00:25:55,067 --> 00:25:58,187
Speaker 16: non sort. It might come back here history. It's a

489
00:25:58,267 --> 00:26:00,867
Speaker 16: pilgrimage that so many people want to do, so we

490
00:26:00,987 --> 00:26:05,267
Speaker 16: will see it for that reason emotional only. But aside,

491
00:26:05,747 --> 00:26:09,507
Speaker 16: that's different do conframes other things. The reason why it's

492
00:26:09,547 --> 00:26:13,907
Speaker 16: not in Victoria, not Melbourne Victoria is that Daniel Andrews

493
00:26:14,067 --> 00:26:17,707
Speaker 16: lied to the public and they it was an election

494
00:26:17,827 --> 00:26:19,827
Speaker 16: bright to get them re elected, that they were going

495
00:26:19,867 --> 00:26:22,627
Speaker 16: to take it round the regions and then build all

496
00:26:22,667 --> 00:26:24,667
Speaker 16: the facilities for it. So they all had to be

497
00:26:24,707 --> 00:26:26,707
Speaker 16: built and everyone's going to have all these shining new

498
00:26:26,747 --> 00:26:28,827
Speaker 16: toys and so on and so forth. That's why the

499
00:26:28,867 --> 00:26:31,667
Speaker 16: budget blew out, and so firstly that's what went wrong,

500
00:26:31,987 --> 00:26:33,787
Speaker 16: and they should have just moved it to Melbourne because

501
00:26:33,787 --> 00:26:35,707
Speaker 16: I've got all the facilities there to do it. So

502
00:26:35,867 --> 00:26:37,867
Speaker 16: something else is up and we'll find out about why

503
00:26:37,947 --> 00:26:41,507
Speaker 16: that didn't happen later on. But everything Melbourne does have

504
00:26:41,547 --> 00:26:44,027
Speaker 16: all the stuff, they could have absolutely hosted it and

505
00:26:44,147 --> 00:26:45,867
Speaker 16: drop of the hat. So that's the first one over.

506
00:26:46,627 --> 00:26:49,987
Speaker 16: Next up as New Zealand could host it, and I

507
00:26:50,107 --> 00:26:52,787
Speaker 16: heard someone mentioned before crush Chach not calling them crush chach.

508
00:26:53,227 --> 00:26:56,867
Speaker 16: We could. As you'll be aware, you're used to Kaha

509
00:26:56,947 --> 00:27:00,227
Speaker 16: staying so you're opening and closing ceremonies because you don't

510
00:27:00,227 --> 00:27:01,947
Speaker 16: need the running track in that for those you do

511
00:27:02,107 --> 00:27:05,067
Speaker 16: that there because that's an event space as well as

512
00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:07,467
Speaker 16: a sports space. You do your track and field and

513
00:27:07,507 --> 00:27:10,227
Speaker 16: the purn a way that's the brand new athletics facility

514
00:27:10,227 --> 00:27:12,187
Speaker 16: and christ Sheitch And here's what I want to trail

515
00:27:12,187 --> 00:27:14,467
Speaker 16: on the next We're about to take down our Tin

516
00:27:14,547 --> 00:27:18,107
Speaker 16: Pou stadiums, so why not store a whole lot of

517
00:27:18,107 --> 00:27:22,747
Speaker 16: stuff from that, all that seating and stadium stuff that's

518
00:27:22,787 --> 00:27:25,627
Speaker 16: there really for those games and have it ready to

519
00:27:25,667 --> 00:27:28,187
Speaker 16: go because we've got all the Tinpreue stadiums stuff sitting

520
00:27:28,627 --> 00:27:30,827
Speaker 16: at the current Orange Series stadiums.

521
00:27:31,907 --> 00:27:33,907
Speaker 2: And this is the kind of this is the kind

522
00:27:33,947 --> 00:27:37,187
Speaker 2: of can do attitude. I love exactly. This is this

523
00:27:37,227 --> 00:27:39,267
Speaker 2: isn't like oh yeah, but yeah, but I know we can't.

524
00:27:39,307 --> 00:27:41,187
Speaker 2: We can't because of this. Because of that, I love

525
00:27:41,227 --> 00:27:43,667
Speaker 2: the can do attitude, mate, I love it. And look,

526
00:27:43,907 --> 00:27:46,547
Speaker 2: I know the fine folk of christ Jitch absolutely love

527
00:27:46,587 --> 00:27:49,107
Speaker 2: their sport too. And you're right. The facilities down there,

528
00:27:49,107 --> 00:27:51,227
Speaker 2: the new ones, the new I'm not sure if you've

529
00:27:51,227 --> 00:27:52,507
Speaker 2: had a look at. I'm not sure if it's even

530
00:27:52,507 --> 00:27:55,787
Speaker 2: open yet. The new swimming pool complex down there. It's

531
00:27:55,827 --> 00:27:58,667
Speaker 2: got the Olympic pool in it. It's amazing. It's got

532
00:27:58,747 --> 00:28:01,107
Speaker 2: diving and everything Olympic you know, ten meters diving board

533
00:28:01,147 --> 00:28:01,587
Speaker 2: and everything.

534
00:28:02,547 --> 00:28:04,907
Speaker 16: Yeah, all of that stuff is there. And it does

535
00:28:04,987 --> 00:28:08,907
Speaker 16: open in an in a few weeks, the middle of December.

536
00:28:08,907 --> 00:28:11,107
Speaker 16: It's open. We've got the special Olympics coming to town

537
00:28:11,507 --> 00:28:13,467
Speaker 16: and so that kicks us off. That's actually the first

538
00:28:13,507 --> 00:28:15,627
Speaker 16: ever event there before the public can even use it.

539
00:28:15,667 --> 00:28:17,387
Speaker 16: So it's a great way to get people along to

540
00:28:17,467 --> 00:28:20,427
Speaker 16: see it prior to it being open for playing in.

541
00:28:20,947 --> 00:28:23,067
Speaker 16: I'm actually a city councilor and christ Church, so I've

542
00:28:23,067 --> 00:28:25,907
Speaker 16: followed this stuff pretty closely. But I would move the

543
00:28:25,947 --> 00:28:28,387
Speaker 16: cycling to our good neighbors down and in the cargo.

544
00:28:28,547 --> 00:28:30,867
Speaker 16: Let's not forget in the South Island. I've got a

545
00:28:30,907 --> 00:28:34,107
Speaker 16: fantastic vallodrone down there, so I'd have all the cycling there.

546
00:28:34,467 --> 00:28:37,787
Speaker 16: Of course, the mountain biking you'd have here because we've

547
00:28:37,827 --> 00:28:40,307
Speaker 16: got the Adventure Park up the hill right here in

548
00:28:40,387 --> 00:28:43,587
Speaker 16: christ Church for that part. So I don't know, We've

549
00:28:43,627 --> 00:28:46,107
Speaker 16: got all the facilities. Let's just get on and do it.

550
00:28:46,147 --> 00:28:48,867
Speaker 16: And you're only talking tens of millions, and we could

551
00:28:48,867 --> 00:28:52,427
Speaker 16: wrap this up to a very big number and put

552
00:28:52,467 --> 00:28:55,067
Speaker 16: New Zealand on the map. And it's a TV event now.

553
00:28:55,107 --> 00:28:59,387
Speaker 16: It's no longer large stadia that needs huge crowds. It's

554
00:28:59,427 --> 00:29:02,147
Speaker 16: about having it look really good on screen.

555
00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:07,387
Speaker 2: Good man, Aaron, Well, I'm mate. You get my vote

556
00:29:07,627 --> 00:29:12,907
Speaker 2: literally and figuratively for the for the games themselves. Look, yeah,

557
00:29:12,947 --> 00:29:17,107
Speaker 2: as I say, there's so much year but these days,

558
00:29:17,427 --> 00:29:19,347
Speaker 2: oh yeah, but I know what about this. I know

559
00:29:19,387 --> 00:29:24,027
Speaker 2: we can't because of the more of the can do

560
00:29:24,147 --> 00:29:27,627
Speaker 2: attitude for me. Thanks Aaron, appreciate your call. And yeah,

561
00:29:27,627 --> 00:29:30,067
Speaker 2: by the sounds of it. Yeah. The new facilities which

562
00:29:30,107 --> 00:29:33,227
Speaker 2: are appearing in christ Jurich, including Ta Kaha and the

563
00:29:33,267 --> 00:29:38,347
Speaker 2: new swimming complex which is also a wider community facility

564
00:29:38,387 --> 00:29:41,907
Speaker 2: as well. I do know the name of it, but

565
00:29:41,907 --> 00:29:43,747
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try. I'm just going to make

566
00:29:43,787 --> 00:29:45,987
Speaker 2: sure I get it right. I had a tour through

567
00:29:45,987 --> 00:29:47,667
Speaker 2: there when I was down there earlier in the year

568
00:29:47,707 --> 00:29:51,307
Speaker 2: for the Super Rugby Final. It's absolutely outstanding facility. Good

569
00:29:51,307 --> 00:29:53,467
Speaker 2: to hear it's opening soon with the Special Olympics the

570
00:29:53,827 --> 00:29:56,027
Speaker 2: first event. Thanks Aaron, appreciate your call mate. All the best,

571
00:29:56,307 --> 00:29:56,907
Speaker 2: Carlos Hi.

572
00:29:57,987 --> 00:30:01,547
Speaker 17: Yeah, absolute piney Aaron spot on buddy. I'm with him

573
00:30:01,587 --> 00:30:04,187
Speaker 17: all the way. I mean, I mean, I was fortunate,

574
00:30:04,227 --> 00:30:06,107
Speaker 17: and I want to say fortunate. I'm an old bugger now,

575
00:30:06,467 --> 00:30:09,467
Speaker 17: but to be brought up the seventy four Commonwealth Games

576
00:30:09,627 --> 00:30:13,467
Speaker 17: and that's it's to my mind forever and I have

577
00:30:13,587 --> 00:30:17,387
Speaker 17: the such great memories about that, and people will do.

578
00:30:17,627 --> 00:30:21,587
Speaker 17: I'm sure you know in the nineties, you know when

579
00:30:21,587 --> 00:30:25,947
Speaker 17: they were young getting there, and I'm sure you do.

580
00:30:26,707 --> 00:30:28,547
Speaker 17: We can. Why does it have to be at one

581
00:30:28,667 --> 00:30:32,147
Speaker 17: venture this spread up? New Zealand's a small country. We're

582
00:30:32,187 --> 00:30:36,307
Speaker 17: not like you know, Canada or somebody else out there

583
00:30:36,827 --> 00:30:41,267
Speaker 17: or Australia. Let's spread it around. Let's have whatever events

584
00:30:41,267 --> 00:30:43,827
Speaker 17: are around, Let's have the cycling there, Let's have this there.

585
00:30:44,227 --> 00:30:47,947
Speaker 17: Surely that must couple of costs down a bit and

586
00:30:48,467 --> 00:30:49,467
Speaker 17: get it on board.

587
00:30:49,987 --> 00:30:52,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense as well, Carlos. You think about

588
00:30:52,507 --> 00:30:54,947
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympic Games. I mean the sailing was down

589
00:30:54,987 --> 00:30:58,227
Speaker 2: in the south of France, you know, hundreds of kilometers away.

590
00:30:58,587 --> 00:31:03,307
Speaker 2: You just you have to be nimble and flexible and adaptable.

591
00:31:03,347 --> 00:31:05,307
Speaker 2: You're so right. You don't have to say, okay, well

592
00:31:05,307 --> 00:31:07,387
Speaker 2: we can't have it in this place because we don't

593
00:31:07,387 --> 00:31:09,947
Speaker 2: have a velodrome. There's a there's a you know, there

594
00:31:09,947 --> 00:31:12,827
Speaker 2: are perfectly in fact, there are world class Valo dromes

595
00:31:12,827 --> 00:31:15,627
Speaker 2: in Cambridge and and Viicago. Now, so yeah, we're not

596
00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:17,867
Speaker 2: a you know, we're not a big country where where

597
00:31:17,867 --> 00:31:19,987
Speaker 2: it takes hours and hours to get from place to place.

598
00:31:20,547 --> 00:31:23,467
Speaker 2: It's let's you know, make it happen by being a

599
00:31:23,507 --> 00:31:24,987
Speaker 2: little bit flexible about.

600
00:31:24,707 --> 00:31:29,747
Speaker 17: This, absolutely pointy that spread it around, that brings you know,

601
00:31:30,347 --> 00:31:33,667
Speaker 17: tourism and everything, because some people down the South Land

602
00:31:33,707 --> 00:31:36,627
Speaker 17: whatever it is, you know, up in the North Island

603
00:31:37,347 --> 00:31:39,507
Speaker 17: in the summer, I mean, for goodness sake, I mean,

604
00:31:40,387 --> 00:31:43,547
Speaker 17: it's just a no brain it's me and let's bring

605
00:31:43,587 --> 00:31:43,787
Speaker 17: it on.

606
00:31:44,627 --> 00:31:46,947
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Colors love it mate, Thanks for calling in

607
00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:51,627
Speaker 2: part of Keioti Recreation and Sports Center is the name

608
00:31:51,827 --> 00:31:54,427
Speaker 2: of the new facility in christ Church. It will be

609
00:31:54,467 --> 00:31:58,867
Speaker 2: the largest aquatic and indoor recreation and leisure venue of

610
00:31:58,907 --> 00:32:02,427
Speaker 2: its kind in New Zealand. Part of Keioti. When I

611
00:32:02,467 --> 00:32:03,787
Speaker 2: went through, when would that have been when it was

612
00:32:03,827 --> 00:32:07,067
Speaker 2: a Super Rugby final? May it? May? I think was

613
00:32:07,107 --> 00:32:09,427
Speaker 2: that when I was down in Christy It's June perhaps

614
00:32:09,787 --> 00:32:12,667
Speaker 2: Andy Partakioti. They gave me a bit of a tour

615
00:32:12,747 --> 00:32:15,787
Speaker 2: through and it was just awesome. I could just like

616
00:32:15,827 --> 00:32:18,787
Speaker 2: I say, it's it's obviously a community facility, but it

617
00:32:18,867 --> 00:32:24,947
Speaker 2: also has an elite capability and that it has like

618
00:32:24,947 --> 00:32:29,387
Speaker 2: I say that the pool part of it is there's

619
00:32:29,387 --> 00:32:33,307
Speaker 2: a there's a swimming pool, but it's extendable. Would you

620
00:32:33,347 --> 00:32:37,307
Speaker 2: believe the technology is amazing? Late June, thanks Andy, late

621
00:32:37,387 --> 00:32:39,467
Speaker 2: June I was down there, and so they can make

622
00:32:39,547 --> 00:32:42,387
Speaker 2: it an Olympic sized pool. They have, like I say,

623
00:32:42,427 --> 00:32:46,707
Speaker 2: the dive, a full diving you know, like Olympic credentialed

624
00:32:46,867 --> 00:32:50,427
Speaker 2: diving pool with the spring boards and the ten meter platform.

625
00:32:50,907 --> 00:32:52,427
Speaker 2: I went up on the ten meta platform. That was

626
00:32:52,427 --> 00:32:55,667
Speaker 2: a mistake. I didn't dive and there was no water

627
00:32:55,747 --> 00:33:00,547
Speaker 2: in the pool at the time. But it's an outstanding facility.

628
00:33:00,907 --> 00:33:02,507
Speaker 2: Could it be part of a coasting of a of

629
00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:05,867
Speaker 2: a Commonwealth Games, Well, it'll be a massive box ticked

630
00:33:06,387 --> 00:33:09,787
Speaker 2: if you've got the aquatics facility. The two core sports

631
00:33:09,787 --> 00:33:13,067
Speaker 2: of the Commonwealth Games are track and field and swimming.

632
00:33:14,147 --> 00:33:18,347
Speaker 2: So tick those two boxes and you're halfway there. The

633
00:33:18,387 --> 00:33:22,227
Speaker 2: other facilities often, you know, there's multi purpose facilities. I

634
00:33:22,307 --> 00:33:26,987
Speaker 2: look at the other sports here, table tennis, weightlifting, netball,

635
00:33:27,107 --> 00:33:30,427
Speaker 2: artistic gymnastics. These are all sports that could be held, boxing,

636
00:33:30,507 --> 00:33:33,707
Speaker 2: that could be held in the same place. You know, bowls,

637
00:33:33,747 --> 00:33:35,827
Speaker 2: you just I mean, there's plenty of bowling clubs and

638
00:33:36,067 --> 00:33:37,187
Speaker 2: Christied burnsides.

639
00:33:37,307 --> 00:33:37,667
Speaker 8: Massive.

640
00:33:38,907 --> 00:33:43,067
Speaker 2: We're nearly there. We're nearly there, seventeen away from one.

641
00:33:43,107 --> 00:33:45,427
Speaker 2: News talks there, but we're talking Common Games until one o'clock.

642
00:33:45,467 --> 00:33:47,107
Speaker 2: And it just the relevance of them as well, as

643
00:33:47,147 --> 00:33:51,467
Speaker 2: I say, I know some people, you know, perhaps tend

644
00:33:51,467 --> 00:33:52,987
Speaker 2: to turn their nose up a little bit of the

645
00:33:52,987 --> 00:33:56,067
Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games. They're not the Olympics, of course they're not,

646
00:33:56,107 --> 00:33:58,507
Speaker 2: but for many they are a pinnacle event. Lawn bowls,

647
00:33:58,707 --> 00:34:01,867
Speaker 2: it's a pinnacle event, netball pinnacle event, and for many

648
00:34:03,547 --> 00:34:07,947
Speaker 2: athletes who are never going to stand on a podium

649
00:34:07,987 --> 00:34:10,507
Speaker 2: at the Olympic Games. Standing on a podium at the

650
00:34:10,547 --> 00:34:13,267
Speaker 2: Commonwealth Game still means a lot. You can't tell me

651
00:34:13,307 --> 00:34:16,187
Speaker 2: that when you see an athlete on the top step

652
00:34:16,227 --> 00:34:18,467
Speaker 2: of a dice at the Commonwealth Games, filled with emotion

653
00:34:18,627 --> 00:34:23,027
Speaker 2: after winning a gold medal, that it's put on, that

654
00:34:23,107 --> 00:34:27,987
Speaker 2: it's somehow secondary, that it's fake. Oh, one hundred and

655
00:34:27,987 --> 00:34:29,747
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty sixteen to one, back with more of

656
00:34:29,747 --> 00:34:30,547
Speaker 2: your calls after this.

657
00:34:31,307 --> 00:34:35,027
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

658
00:34:35,067 --> 00:34:38,787
Speaker 1: Pine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home.

659
00:34:38,667 --> 00:34:44,307
Speaker 2: Builder thirteen to one. Sure and good, I mate, Yet.

660
00:34:44,347 --> 00:34:48,467
Speaker 18: My hair going calling from a very human, steamy Bruceblane

661
00:34:48,547 --> 00:34:51,387
Speaker 18: this morning lady, thirty degrees or half last night in

662
00:34:51,387 --> 00:34:51,747
Speaker 18: the morning.

663
00:34:51,827 --> 00:34:55,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I intro. Well I didn't trying to

664
00:34:55,347 --> 00:34:58,147
Speaker 2: make us all jealous over here in fourteen degree Wellington

665
00:34:58,227 --> 00:35:00,027
Speaker 2: made yeha.

666
00:35:02,827 --> 00:35:05,747
Speaker 18: The city councilor from cars Shurch was bay on the money.

667
00:35:06,387 --> 00:35:10,427
Speaker 18: It wasn't a Melbourne Common Games. It was a regional

668
00:35:10,467 --> 00:35:14,467
Speaker 18: Common Games based out of Bendigo and the reason for

669
00:35:14,627 --> 00:35:19,667
Speaker 18: that was Melbourne hosted the two thousand and six Commonwealth Games.

670
00:35:20,787 --> 00:35:22,987
Speaker 18: I don't know if you remember, but the other front

671
00:35:23,067 --> 00:35:26,067
Speaker 18: runner for the two thousand and six was Wellington. They

672
00:35:26,107 --> 00:35:28,387
Speaker 18: were seriously looking at putting.

673
00:35:28,107 --> 00:35:28,427
Speaker 19: A bit in.

674
00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:32,827
Speaker 18: Don't know whether I think I sort of got the

675
00:35:32,867 --> 00:35:35,027
Speaker 18: message back then, well they're not going to match Melbourne

676
00:35:35,027 --> 00:35:37,747
Speaker 18: because Melbourne's a bigger player, more money and all that

677
00:35:37,787 --> 00:35:41,627
Speaker 18: sort of stuff. I was, Yeah, so I was. I

678
00:35:41,667 --> 00:35:44,347
Speaker 18: was involved with the Common Games here in Gold Coast

679
00:35:44,427 --> 00:35:50,307
Speaker 18: in twenty eighteen, very very successful event. One of the

680
00:35:50,307 --> 00:35:53,227
Speaker 18: big things they did for cost cutting was the volunteer

681
00:35:53,347 --> 00:35:57,387
Speaker 18: part of it, so they really really hammered be a volunteer,

682
00:35:57,467 --> 00:36:00,427
Speaker 18: be part of it, do you a bit. Initially there

683
00:36:00,507 --> 00:36:02,867
Speaker 18: was some resistance, but then in the end it was

684
00:36:02,907 --> 00:36:07,467
Speaker 18: a roaring success. Everyone got free uniforms. That sort of

685
00:36:07,467 --> 00:36:10,187
Speaker 18: staff are well looked after and you still see people

686
00:36:10,227 --> 00:36:13,467
Speaker 18: wearing their volunteers uniforms today and that's what seven years later.

687
00:36:13,907 --> 00:36:14,307
Speaker 2: M hmm.

688
00:36:15,347 --> 00:36:15,547
Speaker 20: Yeah.

689
00:36:15,547 --> 00:36:16,067
Speaker 18: It's very good.

690
00:36:16,227 --> 00:36:18,587
Speaker 17: Also, it's critical and.

691
00:36:18,587 --> 00:36:21,187
Speaker 18: This is the joys of dinner of government. Get the

692
00:36:21,307 --> 00:36:23,827
Speaker 18: right people in to do the right jobs. Even here

693
00:36:23,867 --> 00:36:27,347
Speaker 18: in the Gold Coast, there is a lot of taxpayer

694
00:36:27,387 --> 00:36:33,027
Speaker 18: money wasted on just bureaucracy and stupid stuff. So if

695
00:36:33,067 --> 00:36:36,427
Speaker 18: you can rain add in run a tight ship, maybe

696
00:36:36,507 --> 00:36:38,187
Speaker 18: sell it to the public, which wouldn't be hard in

697
00:36:38,187 --> 00:36:41,027
Speaker 18: New Zealand, depending where you have it. Christ it sounds

698
00:36:41,067 --> 00:36:41,707
Speaker 18: like a good idea.

699
00:36:42,347 --> 00:36:44,187
Speaker 21: I think it would be a good.

700
00:36:44,227 --> 00:36:47,787
Speaker 2: A good option, good Man, Sean, good summary.

701
00:36:47,827 --> 00:36:50,107
Speaker 14: Mate, it's a great that's.

702
00:36:49,947 --> 00:36:52,227
Speaker 2: A great five. It's a great five. Sense enjoy the

703
00:36:52,267 --> 00:36:57,307
Speaker 2: steamy surrounds of Queensland, mate, humber bit jealous. Thanks for calling,

704
00:36:58,427 --> 00:37:02,627
Speaker 2: giving us having it's the benefit of your opinion, which

705
00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:04,467
Speaker 2: is a good one, and also making us a bit

706
00:37:04,507 --> 00:37:06,467
Speaker 2: jealous of the wonderful temperatures you have over there. What

707
00:37:06,547 --> 00:37:08,347
Speaker 2: a great part of the world, A gold coast Brisbane

708
00:37:08,387 --> 00:37:11,547
Speaker 2: fantastic eight hundred and eighty ten eighty our number. Thanks Sean.

709
00:37:11,627 --> 00:37:16,667
Speaker 22: Hi Mary, Hi poney, Hey, it concerns me you've been

710
00:37:16,707 --> 00:37:20,307
Speaker 22: a ranging seller. You never really mentioned Wellington. I've just

711
00:37:20,387 --> 00:37:24,947
Speaker 22: been down there and that's those scentistic facilities out near

712
00:37:24,987 --> 00:37:27,107
Speaker 22: for Tony then c is it?

713
00:37:27,347 --> 00:37:29,747
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that's it.

714
00:37:29,747 --> 00:37:34,307
Speaker 22: It's amazing that face there, So you know how much

715
00:37:34,347 --> 00:37:37,307
Speaker 22: it can hold. I don't know, but Wearrington's got so

716
00:37:37,427 --> 00:37:38,467
Speaker 22: many facilities.

717
00:37:40,707 --> 00:37:44,387
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary, you're saying, look, don't, don't. I'm absolutely a

718
00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:47,667
Speaker 2: proud Wellingtonian. There's absolutely no doubt about that. I'm just

719
00:37:47,707 --> 00:37:49,187
Speaker 2: thinking to myself and I don't want to become a

720
00:37:49,187 --> 00:37:51,427
Speaker 2: one of these, oh year, but I think about where

721
00:37:51,427 --> 00:37:54,347
Speaker 2: we would have the track and field. Newtown Park is

722
00:37:54,427 --> 00:37:58,267
Speaker 2: a good venue, but would it have the size for

723
00:37:58,347 --> 00:38:01,507
Speaker 2: something like that. Indeed, Cis, You're right, is an absolutely

724
00:38:01,587 --> 00:38:04,507
Speaker 2: wonderful facility. It's more of a training facility than a

725
00:38:04,507 --> 00:38:07,267
Speaker 2: performance facility, but I'm sure that they could make some

726
00:38:07,467 --> 00:38:11,387
Speaker 2: changes there. Olympic try swimming, Paul, we have one of those.

727
00:38:11,747 --> 00:38:15,147
Speaker 2: So yeah, look I would be Look, you would absolutely

728
00:38:15,147 --> 00:38:17,427
Speaker 2: get no argument from me if it could be made

729
00:38:17,507 --> 00:38:21,507
Speaker 2: to happen. But I guess, I guess I default to

730
00:38:21,587 --> 00:38:24,147
Speaker 2: christ you at your or upland there is more likely

731
00:38:24,227 --> 00:38:26,067
Speaker 2: than you know venues all locations.

732
00:38:27,147 --> 00:38:31,747
Speaker 22: The thing is, Wellington's got really good you know, transport

733
00:38:31,827 --> 00:38:38,067
Speaker 22: facilities as well, compared to Auckland's terrible whereas Wellington's. I mean,

734
00:38:38,067 --> 00:38:40,067
Speaker 22: I'm sticking up for Wellington because I love it there,

735
00:38:40,347 --> 00:38:44,547
Speaker 22: and that ends the C I s. I just think

736
00:38:44,587 --> 00:38:46,747
Speaker 22: that that's a lot of lot of people know about it,

737
00:38:46,987 --> 00:38:49,067
Speaker 22: like we've only just discovered and I've not seen there

738
00:38:49,107 --> 00:38:52,667
Speaker 22: for two or three years, but it's the Spen facilities

739
00:38:52,707 --> 00:38:57,267
Speaker 22: out there. But you're right about track and field, I'm

740
00:38:57,507 --> 00:38:58,227
Speaker 22: not sure.

741
00:39:00,307 --> 00:39:02,947
Speaker 2: Yeah again, though I'm sure that arrangements could be made

742
00:39:02,947 --> 00:39:04,827
Speaker 2: of some sort mirror. What you don't want is for

743
00:39:04,867 --> 00:39:07,067
Speaker 2: a whole new facility to have to be built because

744
00:39:07,067 --> 00:39:10,347
Speaker 2: I just don't think that's feasible. Upgraded maybe, but yeah,

745
00:39:10,707 --> 00:39:12,827
Speaker 2: let's have a can do attitude about it. I'm glad

746
00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:16,587
Speaker 2: you enjoyed your visit to ns cis. It's absolutely remarkable,

747
00:39:17,187 --> 00:39:18,467
Speaker 2: world class facility.

748
00:39:19,187 --> 00:39:22,907
Speaker 23: Peter High Oh good o there, Pony. I'm all for

749
00:39:22,947 --> 00:39:25,987
Speaker 23: the christ all for that christ jurge. But even though

750
00:39:25,987 --> 00:39:27,707
Speaker 23: I'm the Wellington one eyed.

751
00:39:27,587 --> 00:39:29,587
Speaker 2: Supporter, I was going to say, Peter, I would have

752
00:39:29,627 --> 00:39:32,947
Speaker 2: expected you to be front footing the Wellington bird.

753
00:39:33,347 --> 00:39:35,067
Speaker 23: Ah. But I've got a half of it.

754
00:39:35,267 --> 00:39:39,427
Speaker 24: I want the sevens here, all the racey here, Yes,

755
00:39:39,987 --> 00:39:43,947
Speaker 24: in Wellington because we originally started it off and in

756
00:39:44,027 --> 00:39:46,987
Speaker 24: New Zealand there we were the headquarters for it and

757
00:39:47,107 --> 00:39:48,347
Speaker 24: unfortunately lost it.

758
00:39:48,387 --> 00:39:51,587
Speaker 23: But I was down there in seventy four they were

759
00:39:51,627 --> 00:39:55,587
Speaker 23: the friendly games and you know Richard Taylor there winning

760
00:39:55,987 --> 00:40:00,587
Speaker 23: winning his race and the swim of Pankhouse, I think

761
00:40:00,587 --> 00:40:03,827
Speaker 23: it was. And I went to the six other other

762
00:40:03,947 --> 00:40:07,387
Speaker 23: sports down there and the city was just alive. And

763
00:40:07,507 --> 00:40:11,867
Speaker 23: I reckon, with all these new facilities down there, Piney,

764
00:40:12,227 --> 00:40:14,867
Speaker 23: I reckon that they should have it, and perhaps the

765
00:40:14,907 --> 00:40:18,267
Speaker 23: cycling could go down then the cargol to reduce the

766
00:40:18,347 --> 00:40:19,027
Speaker 23: costs too.

767
00:40:19,747 --> 00:40:22,467
Speaker 2: Nice one, Peter. Good thoughts from you as always great

768
00:40:22,467 --> 00:40:24,067
Speaker 2: to hear from you, mate. I know you're a huge

769
00:40:24,067 --> 00:40:26,467
Speaker 2: fan of crack and field in particular, but all sport,

770
00:40:26,867 --> 00:40:30,147
Speaker 2: so I'm good to get your view. Thanks. Indeed, just

771
00:40:30,227 --> 00:40:33,547
Speaker 2: on seven away from One, JT says it's twenty seven

772
00:40:33,587 --> 00:40:37,507
Speaker 2: degrees in ash Person, so I guess that's as a

773
00:40:37,707 --> 00:40:40,387
Speaker 2: there's a counterpoint to the thirty odd degrees that is

774
00:40:40,427 --> 00:40:43,187
Speaker 2: in Brisbane where Shawn called from before. Can anybody beat

775
00:40:43,187 --> 00:40:46,107
Speaker 2: twenty seven? Our text numbers nineteen nine and two of

776
00:40:46,147 --> 00:40:46,867
Speaker 2: so back in the.

777
00:40:46,867 --> 00:40:51,267
Speaker 1: Moment from breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every Field.

778
00:40:52,587 --> 00:40:56,387
Speaker 8: Weekend Sport with Jason nin News Talk zenby.

779
00:40:56,867 --> 00:40:59,667
Speaker 2: Four to one, Wayne says twenty eight degrees at Auckland Airport.

780
00:41:00,067 --> 00:41:03,667
Speaker 2: Sue says in Vokatan it's twenty nine twenty nine here

781
00:41:03,707 --> 00:41:07,267
Speaker 2: in flexmea Hastings is this one says? Who needs the

782
00:41:07,267 --> 00:41:10,507
Speaker 2: Gold coast twenty eight degrees here in Todonga, gorgeous in

783
00:41:10,547 --> 00:41:13,867
Speaker 2: the mounts for the surf games this weekend. Thank you, Michelle.

784
00:41:13,907 --> 00:41:17,467
Speaker 2: It's actually, I think pretty pretty nice everywhere. Aparpromble I

785
00:41:17,547 --> 00:41:21,027
Speaker 2: am and Wellington's fine today. It's absolutely no problem, but

786
00:41:21,627 --> 00:41:23,747
Speaker 2: it certainly doesn't get to the high twenties. Thanks for

787
00:41:23,827 --> 00:41:26,147
Speaker 2: your cause and correspondence on the com Game's great discussion

788
00:41:26,467 --> 00:41:31,227
Speaker 2: after one, how would an All Blacks season review typically

789
00:41:31,267 --> 00:41:34,227
Speaker 2: be carried out?

790
00:41:34,267 --> 00:41:37,187
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

791
00:41:37,267 --> 00:41:38,907
Speaker 1: on and afterfield.

792
00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:43,147
Speaker 8: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Hyde on your

793
00:41:43,187 --> 00:41:44,267
Speaker 8: home of Sport.

794
00:41:45,347 --> 00:41:49,027
Speaker 2: Use York one O seven. Welcome in or welcome back,

795
00:41:49,027 --> 00:41:50,787
Speaker 2: as the case may be. This is Weekend Sport on

796
00:41:50,787 --> 00:41:54,307
Speaker 2: News Talk said beat, I'm Jason Pine with Any McDonnell

797
00:41:54,787 --> 00:41:57,347
Speaker 2: running the cutter. We're here till three after two. Mark

798
00:41:57,387 --> 00:41:59,947
Speaker 2: great batches on the show, looking forward to chatting to him.

799
00:41:59,947 --> 00:42:02,267
Speaker 2: He's now the president of New Zealand Cricket. What does

800
00:42:02,307 --> 00:42:06,947
Speaker 2: that mean? What are his roles and responsibilities? And just

801
00:42:06,987 --> 00:42:09,587
Speaker 2: to look ahead twenty four hours this time tomorrow after

802
00:42:09,587 --> 00:42:14,227
Speaker 2: the one o'clock News tomorrow, delighted to welcome Michael Campbell

803
00:42:14,267 --> 00:42:18,027
Speaker 2: in for an extended chat. It's twenty years since he

804
00:42:18,067 --> 00:42:22,867
Speaker 2: won the US Open. Is a documentary which is going

805
00:42:22,907 --> 00:42:28,907
Speaker 2: to premiere tomorrow night on Sky Sport which basically talks

806
00:42:29,387 --> 00:42:34,947
Speaker 2: in depth about that very occasion. It's called Dare to

807
00:42:34,987 --> 00:42:38,787
Speaker 2: Be Different, The Michael Campbell Story. It's on Sky Sport

808
00:42:38,867 --> 00:42:41,907
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Ahead of that, Michael Camb're going to chat

809
00:42:41,947 --> 00:42:44,707
Speaker 2: to us tomorrow about two thousand and five, but also

810
00:42:45,307 --> 00:42:48,867
Speaker 2: about his career, the ups and downs, proving the doubt

811
00:42:48,947 --> 00:42:51,227
Speaker 2: is wrong and rising to the very top of the

812
00:42:51,227 --> 00:42:54,667
Speaker 2: golfing world. So that's tomorrow after the one o'clock News,

813
00:42:55,027 --> 00:42:57,987
Speaker 2: Michael Campbell on the show. Just a quick shout out

814
00:42:58,067 --> 00:43:02,467
Speaker 2: to the good folk of Nelson. I had a wonderful

815
00:43:02,467 --> 00:43:05,547
Speaker 2: opportunity to spend the evening there last night for the

816
00:43:06,467 --> 00:43:10,107
Speaker 2: Nelson's Sport and Recreation Awards put on by Sport Tasman

817
00:43:10,507 --> 00:43:12,627
Speaker 2: the team down there. Anyone who spent any time in

818
00:43:12,667 --> 00:43:16,027
Speaker 2: Nelson or knows anything about that wonderful place, knows what

819
00:43:16,107 --> 00:43:20,227
Speaker 2: a sporting hot bed it is. And the number of

820
00:43:20,307 --> 00:43:23,827
Speaker 2: elite sports people who have emerged from Nelson is just

821
00:43:23,987 --> 00:43:29,147
Speaker 2: eyewatering and it continues. Yeah, awesome night last night at

822
00:43:29,147 --> 00:43:33,187
Speaker 2: the Rutherford Hotel celebrating the best in sport and recreation

823
00:43:33,267 --> 00:43:38,427
Speaker 2: across the Nelson region. Huge congratulations to Sport tasman CEO

824
00:43:38,587 --> 00:43:42,707
Speaker 2: Ed Shuttleworth, Ryan Edwards who drives the whole show and

825
00:43:42,747 --> 00:43:45,307
Speaker 2: their awesome team down there. It was a great night.

826
00:43:46,827 --> 00:43:50,947
Speaker 2: Reci Leana PODi Lane. Incidentally, the seventh Star was, for

827
00:43:50,987 --> 00:43:53,387
Speaker 2: the second year in a row, the winner of the

828
00:43:53,427 --> 00:43:56,187
Speaker 2: Supreme Award down there. It was terrific stuff. So thanks

829
00:43:56,227 --> 00:43:59,107
Speaker 2: to the good folk and Nelson for having me enjoyed it.

830
00:43:59,187 --> 00:44:02,387
Speaker 2: Got to get back sometime soon. Nine past one, we

831
00:44:02,467 --> 00:44:06,587
Speaker 2: have officially reached the midway point of the Rugby World

832
00:44:06,667 --> 00:44:07,987
Speaker 2: Cup cycle.

833
00:44:08,227 --> 00:44:12,307
Speaker 3: And the curtain comes down on season twenty twenty five

834
00:44:12,387 --> 00:44:18,187
Speaker 3: for the All Blacks. No brand Slam, three losses, ten weeks,

835
00:44:19,547 --> 00:44:22,947
Speaker 3: final score fifty two to twenty six and Cardiff.

836
00:44:23,187 --> 00:44:25,707
Speaker 2: So we're done, all done for twenty twenty five. The

837
00:44:25,787 --> 00:44:28,627
Speaker 2: end of season review for the All Blacks will now commence,

838
00:44:28,667 --> 00:44:30,947
Speaker 2: In fact, it may already have. So what is the

839
00:44:30,987 --> 00:44:34,707
Speaker 2: best approach to something like this? Do you rebuild or

840
00:44:34,747 --> 00:44:39,067
Speaker 2: do you continue to build? Do you change nothing, do

841
00:44:39,107 --> 00:44:42,667
Speaker 2: you change everything? Do you change some things? And if

842
00:44:42,667 --> 00:44:45,667
Speaker 2: it's the last one, what do you change? And how

843
00:44:45,667 --> 00:44:48,067
Speaker 2: do you know were you going to get your biggest

844
00:44:48,067 --> 00:44:51,667
Speaker 2: bang for buck. Let's get some expert insight into this

845
00:44:51,787 --> 00:44:56,427
Speaker 2: from coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith, a regular contributor to Weekend

846
00:44:56,467 --> 00:45:00,307
Speaker 2: Sport and a real font of knowledge when it comes

847
00:45:00,307 --> 00:45:02,147
Speaker 2: to this sort of thing, Wayne, can we look at

848
00:45:02,187 --> 00:45:06,707
Speaker 2: those three options? Change everything, change nothing, or ch change

849
00:45:06,827 --> 00:45:10,187
Speaker 2: some things? If you change nothing, is that even an

850
00:45:10,227 --> 00:45:13,507
Speaker 2: option these days to do nothing, to just keep on

851
00:45:13,547 --> 00:45:16,627
Speaker 2: doing the same things you know? Or is it actually

852
00:45:16,627 --> 00:45:18,267
Speaker 2: an option? I'm not saying that the all blacks case,

853
00:45:18,267 --> 00:45:21,987
Speaker 2: but if something isn't broke, do you really not need

854
00:45:22,027 --> 00:45:23,547
Speaker 2: to fix it?

855
00:45:23,547 --> 00:45:29,107
Speaker 25: It's pointy, it's such a fascinating concept to consider, isn't so?

856
00:45:29,627 --> 00:45:34,467
Speaker 25: For example, if someone said to me, Wayne, we've recruited

857
00:45:34,507 --> 00:45:37,907
Speaker 25: you in twenty twenty eight to win some Olympic gold

858
00:45:37,907 --> 00:45:42,547
Speaker 25: medals in twenty thirty two, im medially my brain is saying, look,

859
00:45:42,707 --> 00:45:46,147
Speaker 25: I'm going to build progressively over the first year two years.

860
00:45:46,587 --> 00:45:49,667
Speaker 25: Then we're going to refine some elements because I want

861
00:45:49,707 --> 00:45:54,067
Speaker 25: to be at my peak on that day in that

862
00:45:54,307 --> 00:45:58,307
Speaker 25: place in twenty thirty two. Whether I show what we're

863
00:45:58,347 --> 00:46:00,227
Speaker 25: doing or give away too much in the lead up,

864
00:46:00,667 --> 00:46:01,907
Speaker 25: that's an issue for debate.

865
00:46:01,947 --> 00:46:03,947
Speaker 12: And I think just looking at Spring Tour at.

866
00:46:03,827 --> 00:46:07,587
Speaker 25: The moment, that's the question I've got is how many

867
00:46:07,627 --> 00:46:11,147
Speaker 25: of the teams, say all black Spring Box Wallabies to

868
00:46:11,187 --> 00:46:14,387
Speaker 25: a certain extent, How many of them are on a

869
00:46:14,587 --> 00:46:18,147
Speaker 25: path that they've put in place two years ago or

870
00:46:18,187 --> 00:46:22,027
Speaker 25: even earlier with the aim of peaking, and they believe

871
00:46:22,107 --> 00:46:22,987
Speaker 25: that they're on track.

872
00:46:23,427 --> 00:46:25,107
Speaker 12: How many of them have got to sit back and

873
00:46:25,147 --> 00:46:26,107
Speaker 12: go war.

874
00:46:26,227 --> 00:46:27,907
Speaker 25: I know we said we're going to do that, and

875
00:46:27,947 --> 00:46:29,907
Speaker 25: I know we're going to focus on a defensive game

876
00:46:29,987 --> 00:46:33,067
Speaker 25: or an attacking game or a counter attacking game. How

877
00:46:33,107 --> 00:46:35,507
Speaker 25: many of them gow? I know we said that, but

878
00:46:35,547 --> 00:46:38,467
Speaker 25: it's just not working. Two years is enough time for

879
00:46:38,587 --> 00:46:41,867
Speaker 25: us to change, and some of it is, you know,

880
00:46:42,147 --> 00:46:44,587
Speaker 25: I look at it and think, is what we're seeing?

881
00:46:44,627 --> 00:46:45,427
Speaker 12: What we're seeing?

882
00:46:46,027 --> 00:46:49,667
Speaker 25: So are we seeing a true reflection of teams building

883
00:46:49,707 --> 00:46:52,707
Speaker 25: towards greatness in two years? Are we seeing teams that

884
00:46:52,707 --> 00:46:55,667
Speaker 25: have just lost the plot and don't know and what

885
00:46:55,867 --> 00:46:58,707
Speaker 25: then as a result, what needs to be changed? How

886
00:46:58,747 --> 00:47:00,787
Speaker 25: does it need to be changed? When does it need

887
00:47:00,827 --> 00:47:03,147
Speaker 25: to be changed, and how will I know even if

888
00:47:03,147 --> 00:47:06,907
Speaker 25: that works. Is the spring tour, for example, the the

889
00:47:06,907 --> 00:47:09,947
Speaker 25: benchmark and the guide to see whether or not our

890
00:47:09,987 --> 00:47:13,387
Speaker 25: plan for two years is on place? Is that the

891
00:47:13,427 --> 00:47:18,347
Speaker 25: Southern Hemisphere competitions. These are huge questions that everyone's battling

892
00:47:18,387 --> 00:47:19,067
Speaker 25: with at the moment.

893
00:47:19,467 --> 00:47:21,827
Speaker 2: The big picture is such an interesting topic for me

894
00:47:21,947 --> 00:47:25,987
Speaker 2: because you know, in rugby circles, international rugby circles, big

895
00:47:26,027 --> 00:47:28,507
Speaker 2: picture is the Rugby World Cup. But in these days

896
00:47:28,507 --> 00:47:31,827
Speaker 2: of instant gratification, particularly as you know Wayne over here,

897
00:47:31,867 --> 00:47:34,867
Speaker 2: whether the All Blacks are expected to win every single

898
00:47:34,867 --> 00:47:38,187
Speaker 2: Test match they play, how challenging is it to keep

899
00:47:38,227 --> 00:47:40,267
Speaker 2: your eyes on the big picture.

900
00:47:41,547 --> 00:47:46,907
Speaker 25: Yeah, it's part of I think also being confident and

901
00:47:46,907 --> 00:47:50,067
Speaker 25: and comfortable in the vision and the plans that you

902
00:47:50,147 --> 00:47:52,987
Speaker 25: put in place when you took over the job. So

903
00:47:53,067 --> 00:47:56,027
Speaker 25: when you came in and said, look, I'm very confident

904
00:47:56,067 --> 00:48:00,507
Speaker 25: we've got the staff, the leadership, the funding, the players

905
00:48:00,547 --> 00:48:03,947
Speaker 25: to be really successful in Rugby World Cup. But it's

906
00:48:03,987 --> 00:48:06,107
Speaker 25: going to take a bit of time because the Irish

907
00:48:06,427 --> 00:48:10,867
Speaker 25: really picked up. We've got two time defending World championships.

908
00:48:10,867 --> 00:48:13,507
Speaker 25: In the South Africans, we're seeing some growth in Argentina,

909
00:48:13,667 --> 00:48:16,467
Speaker 25: the competition's got tougher and even as we've seen a

910
00:48:16,507 --> 00:48:17,427
Speaker 25: little bit with France.

911
00:48:17,987 --> 00:48:20,547
Speaker 12: So we're confident we can be right in four years,

912
00:48:21,067 --> 00:48:21,467
Speaker 12: but we.

913
00:48:21,587 --> 00:48:25,987
Speaker 25: May not be absolutely sharpen out our best until that

914
00:48:26,067 --> 00:48:28,387
Speaker 25: last eighteen months. Now, you've got to be able to

915
00:48:28,427 --> 00:48:30,387
Speaker 25: sell that to the board. You've got to be able

916
00:48:30,387 --> 00:48:32,867
Speaker 25: to sell that to the fans, to the media, and

917
00:48:32,987 --> 00:48:35,867
Speaker 25: to the players and to the provincial union.

918
00:48:35,907 --> 00:48:37,027
Speaker 12: You have to be able to sell it to.

919
00:48:37,027 --> 00:48:40,027
Speaker 25: Everybody to say, yeah, sure, we'd like to be winning,

920
00:48:40,067 --> 00:48:41,187
Speaker 25: but we are faith in you.

921
00:48:41,307 --> 00:48:42,907
Speaker 12: We know that you're heading in the right direction.

922
00:48:43,067 --> 00:48:46,147
Speaker 25: We've seen your bigger vision and it's okay that you're

923
00:48:46,187 --> 00:48:49,587
Speaker 25: not winning everything right now because we want that Rugby

924
00:48:49,627 --> 00:48:51,947
Speaker 25: World Club desperately in two years, and they'll.

925
00:48:51,747 --> 00:48:52,707
Speaker 12: Give you a little bit of slack.

926
00:48:52,987 --> 00:48:56,387
Speaker 25: I think if you haven't sold your vision well, people

927
00:48:56,427 --> 00:48:59,867
Speaker 25: start chipping away, and you know, of course, it's interesting,

928
00:48:59,907 --> 00:49:01,987
Speaker 25: is it. You know, it don't matter what's going wrong,

929
00:49:02,027 --> 00:49:04,467
Speaker 25: what's the solution. Sack the head coach. It could be

930
00:49:04,547 --> 00:49:08,307
Speaker 25: it doesn't matter what's going wrong. That's always the first

931
00:49:08,307 --> 00:49:11,227
Speaker 25: solution that people will turn to. And if the head

932
00:49:11,267 --> 00:49:14,987
Speaker 25: coach has got a great vision, for peaking at the

933
00:49:15,107 --> 00:49:18,307
Speaker 25: right time and dominating the next Rugby World Cup when

934
00:49:18,387 --> 00:49:20,987
Speaker 25: second next the head coach would be the dumbest thing

935
00:49:21,067 --> 00:49:21,507
Speaker 25: you could do.

936
00:49:22,027 --> 00:49:23,227
Speaker 12: And that's the trick, isn't it?

937
00:49:23,267 --> 00:49:25,747
Speaker 25: Is what do I need to keep doing? What do

938
00:49:25,787 --> 00:49:28,667
Speaker 25: I need to stop doing? And then what do I

939
00:49:28,747 --> 00:49:31,027
Speaker 25: need to introduce? Is there anything new that I can

940
00:49:31,067 --> 00:49:34,987
Speaker 25: bring in that's going to make a big difference. The

941
00:49:35,107 --> 00:49:38,387
Speaker 25: problem we're changing too many things, Pinte is the players

942
00:49:38,427 --> 00:49:40,947
Speaker 25: start the panic if you go, hey, guys, I know

943
00:49:41,027 --> 00:49:43,267
Speaker 25: I sold you the vision and I know we talked

944
00:49:43,307 --> 00:49:46,667
Speaker 25: about this master plan and peaking in the next Rugby

945
00:49:46,667 --> 00:49:48,707
Speaker 25: World Cup, and I know I told you that, but

946
00:49:48,747 --> 00:49:51,547
Speaker 25: I'm going to change one hundred and twenty sixties because

947
00:49:52,147 --> 00:49:55,507
Speaker 25: you've got to be really careful because if you've got

948
00:49:55,507 --> 00:49:58,827
Speaker 25: that high sense of belief from the team that what

949
00:49:58,867 --> 00:50:02,747
Speaker 25: you're doing is right and it's everything's going to come

950
00:50:02,787 --> 00:50:06,827
Speaker 25: good and be rosy and the Rugby World Cup and

951
00:50:06,867 --> 00:50:10,867
Speaker 25: you start to change things too dramatically, now will they start.

952
00:50:10,587 --> 00:50:12,827
Speaker 12: To think, Hang on a minute, what are we following

953
00:50:12,827 --> 00:50:13,347
Speaker 12: this guy for?

954
00:50:13,827 --> 00:50:16,587
Speaker 25: He told us and we believed in any and now

955
00:50:16,587 --> 00:50:18,867
Speaker 25: he's changing everything about the team.

956
00:50:18,907 --> 00:50:21,347
Speaker 12: So even if you come up with the right solution.

957
00:50:21,467 --> 00:50:24,667
Speaker 25: You've got to be very clever and very strategic about

958
00:50:24,707 --> 00:50:26,267
Speaker 25: how you introduce the change.

959
00:50:26,427 --> 00:50:27,747
Speaker 2: All right, I want to come to that in a minute.

960
00:50:27,827 --> 00:50:32,507
Speaker 2: The option of changing some things. But over here we'

961
00:50:32,987 --> 00:50:36,467
Speaker 2: and you alluded to it there, you know, complete change,

962
00:50:35,587 --> 00:50:39,787
Speaker 2: the nuclear option, as it's called. Over here, we change

963
00:50:39,827 --> 00:50:42,867
Speaker 2: the coaching staff completely. We sacked the head coach and

964
00:50:42,907 --> 00:50:45,787
Speaker 2: in the next two years we put faith in somebody else.

965
00:50:47,307 --> 00:50:50,587
Speaker 2: When and how do you know if that is actually

966
00:50:51,227 --> 00:50:51,707
Speaker 2: an option?

967
00:50:53,307 --> 00:50:56,587
Speaker 12: Well, that's dearly. That's the purpose of reviews.

968
00:50:56,627 --> 00:50:58,947
Speaker 25: I know when I do reviews now, whether it's nrrel

969
00:50:59,187 --> 00:51:03,187
Speaker 25: or professional teams, Olympic sports, it takes me a week

970
00:51:03,307 --> 00:51:05,267
Speaker 25: or so and most of the time I'm just talking

971
00:51:05,307 --> 00:51:08,107
Speaker 25: to people, start to get a feel for what do

972
00:51:08,187 --> 00:51:10,867
Speaker 25: people feel? So what are they Because you know, it's

973
00:51:10,867 --> 00:51:13,427
Speaker 25: sport pointing. We're rarely dealing with logic. We can throw

974
00:51:13,507 --> 00:51:16,187
Speaker 25: stats and data at people. It's so much of this

975
00:51:16,307 --> 00:51:18,987
Speaker 25: industry is what are people feel? What do people think?

976
00:51:19,027 --> 00:51:23,267
Speaker 25: We can throw all the data you're like, you can say, look, yeah, yeah, yeah.

977
00:51:23,947 --> 00:51:29,107
Speaker 25: Defense is slowly improving ball retentions, improving breakdowns and getting

978
00:51:29,107 --> 00:51:29,587
Speaker 25: but here's.

979
00:51:29,387 --> 00:51:30,747
Speaker 12: The data to prove it.

980
00:51:30,787 --> 00:51:32,987
Speaker 25: But if the players and the staff and the people

981
00:51:33,027 --> 00:51:36,227
Speaker 25: around the team don't believe it and they're not feeling it,

982
00:51:37,147 --> 00:51:38,827
Speaker 25: then that all the data in the world's not going

983
00:51:38,867 --> 00:51:39,787
Speaker 25: to make any difference.

984
00:51:39,867 --> 00:51:40,867
Speaker 12: That's that's the critical thing.

985
00:51:40,907 --> 00:51:42,747
Speaker 25: So I like to go and get a feel and

986
00:51:42,787 --> 00:51:47,667
Speaker 25: an understanding what what people think, believe and feel before

987
00:51:48,067 --> 00:51:51,187
Speaker 25: I look at the data. And that's really important. So

988
00:51:52,347 --> 00:51:54,707
Speaker 25: I would be I would be imagining that they're going

989
00:51:54,707 --> 00:51:57,987
Speaker 25: through that process now. They want to get real understanding

990
00:51:58,067 --> 00:52:01,187
Speaker 25: for exactly that great line, no good coming up with

991
00:52:01,227 --> 00:52:04,827
Speaker 25: a great solution to the wrong problem, and I think

992
00:52:04,947 --> 00:52:08,507
Speaker 25: doing the nuclear option. You know, I would do the

993
00:52:08,627 --> 00:52:12,667
Speaker 25: nuclear option if I could show that everything was falling apart,

994
00:52:12,787 --> 00:52:16,027
Speaker 25: So if the coaches had lost the faith of the

995
00:52:16,147 --> 00:52:20,107
Speaker 25: change room, if our data was going terribly, if staff

996
00:52:20,107 --> 00:52:22,227
Speaker 25: and players were saying, look, this is just the wrong

997
00:52:22,267 --> 00:52:24,827
Speaker 25: way to go, we don't believe in them, if there

998
00:52:24,907 --> 00:52:27,787
Speaker 25: was real obvious of internal politics, if there was a

999
00:52:27,827 --> 00:52:31,027
Speaker 25: disconnect with the player group, if there were a lot

1000
00:52:31,027 --> 00:52:33,067
Speaker 25: of things wrong, then of course you've got to look

1001
00:52:33,107 --> 00:52:37,147
Speaker 25: at big solutions when there's big problems. But I rarely

1002
00:52:37,187 --> 00:52:41,587
Speaker 25: see that rarely, so usually it's it's it's just little

1003
00:52:41,627 --> 00:52:42,907
Speaker 25: things that need tweaking.

1004
00:52:43,667 --> 00:52:45,307
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go to that then, because I

1005
00:52:45,347 --> 00:52:48,027
Speaker 2: get the feeling that's what they'll do. They won't, you know,

1006
00:52:48,067 --> 00:52:50,227
Speaker 2: the decision makers say right, keep on doing what you're

1007
00:52:50,267 --> 00:52:53,387
Speaker 2: doing because clearly there are still you know, some gaps

1008
00:52:53,387 --> 00:52:56,547
Speaker 2: and performance. They're not going to I don't think get

1009
00:52:56,627 --> 00:52:58,627
Speaker 2: rid of the coaching staff. So let's go to option three.

1010
00:52:58,667 --> 00:53:02,347
Speaker 2: You change some things. So how do you know? How

1011
00:53:02,347 --> 00:53:04,747
Speaker 2: do you decide what to change what not to change?

1012
00:53:04,747 --> 00:53:06,787
Speaker 2: Do you look at what the opposition are doing? Do

1013
00:53:06,867 --> 00:53:09,787
Speaker 2: you stick true to your own path? How do you know, Wyanne,

1014
00:53:10,307 --> 00:53:12,587
Speaker 2: where you're going to get your biggest bang for buck

1015
00:53:13,267 --> 00:53:14,907
Speaker 2: in changing some things?

1016
00:53:16,387 --> 00:53:16,587
Speaker 13: Well?

1017
00:53:16,667 --> 00:53:18,227
Speaker 25: I think with you guys made you and I have

1018
00:53:18,267 --> 00:53:21,107
Speaker 25: had a few laughs about this over the years, is

1019
00:53:21,507 --> 00:53:26,147
Speaker 25: that my view of New Zealand is generally in sport,

1020
00:53:26,307 --> 00:53:29,067
Speaker 25: is you just don't have enough faith in yourself. When

1021
00:53:29,067 --> 00:53:32,627
Speaker 25: I was in Canada recently and then Ireland and England,

1022
00:53:33,307 --> 00:53:38,787
Speaker 25: the All Blacks, the respect and the esteem and the

1023
00:53:38,867 --> 00:53:42,387
Speaker 25: way they're looked at not just as a team, but

1024
00:53:42,467 --> 00:53:45,427
Speaker 25: their culture and their history of excellence. And if you

1025
00:53:45,507 --> 00:53:48,547
Speaker 25: read an Oco's new book, I mean it's just whether

1026
00:53:48,587 --> 00:53:51,027
Speaker 25: you're winning on this spring till you have been the

1027
00:53:51,107 --> 00:53:55,587
Speaker 25: benchmark for one hundred and twenty years, and never forget that.

1028
00:53:56,107 --> 00:53:58,387
Speaker 25: I think the biggest danger pon is you go, you

1029
00:53:58,427 --> 00:54:01,187
Speaker 25: know what, the Irish really came at us, here, here,

1030
00:54:01,267 --> 00:54:03,667
Speaker 25: and here. We've got to change because that's what the

1031
00:54:03,707 --> 00:54:06,747
Speaker 25: Irish are doing. Or you go to the souths they

1032
00:54:06,747 --> 00:54:09,467
Speaker 25: will like steam rollers. We've got to change because that's

1033
00:54:09,507 --> 00:54:10,827
Speaker 25: what the South Africans are doing.

1034
00:54:11,387 --> 00:54:14,267
Speaker 12: That's dumb, dumb, dumb.

1035
00:54:14,787 --> 00:54:18,067
Speaker 25: The reason that you guys are respected so much around

1036
00:54:18,107 --> 00:54:20,347
Speaker 25: the world and have been and will always be in

1037
00:54:20,387 --> 00:54:23,107
Speaker 25: my view, is because you play.

1038
00:54:22,907 --> 00:54:23,547
Speaker 12: Like your place.

1039
00:54:23,747 --> 00:54:28,107
Speaker 25: It's a relentless, remorseless.

1040
00:54:28,427 --> 00:54:30,107
Speaker 12: Fast, highly technical.

1041
00:54:30,307 --> 00:54:33,307
Speaker 25: The way you play is what everyone else spends their

1042
00:54:33,347 --> 00:54:35,347
Speaker 25: time trying to figure out how to beat you. And

1043
00:54:35,427 --> 00:54:38,267
Speaker 25: the big mistake you would make if I was again

1044
00:54:38,507 --> 00:54:42,747
Speaker 25: tied up with your black seas. Don't shift from always

1045
00:54:43,387 --> 00:54:46,347
Speaker 25: from being what I call the hunted, the thinking you

1046
00:54:46,507 --> 00:54:50,227
Speaker 25: now you're just hunters. You are still considered the benchmark,

1047
00:54:50,307 --> 00:54:53,067
Speaker 25: the one that everyone wants to beat around the world.

1048
00:54:53,147 --> 00:54:58,147
Speaker 25: So the changes need to be New Zealand changes. They

1049
00:54:58,267 --> 00:55:00,347
Speaker 25: need to be, well, what do we do well when

1050
00:55:00,347 --> 00:55:04,827
Speaker 25: we're playing and dominating. What is it about us? Relentless

1051
00:55:04,867 --> 00:55:10,427
Speaker 25: counter attack, doily powerful defense, acceleration and speed to break down,

1052
00:55:10,907 --> 00:55:15,387
Speaker 25: brilliant attacking play, incredible accuracy with our kicking game. They're

1053
00:55:15,387 --> 00:55:19,227
Speaker 25: the things that have made the All Blacks exceptional for

1054
00:55:19,267 --> 00:55:22,627
Speaker 25: so long. If you're going to make changes, make New

1055
00:55:22,747 --> 00:55:26,747
Speaker 25: Zealand changes, don't get sucked in to thinking well, we'll

1056
00:55:26,787 --> 00:55:28,787
Speaker 25: steal that from South Africa, and we'll pinch that from

1057
00:55:28,787 --> 00:55:31,067
Speaker 25: the Poems and we'll steal that from Ireland. Does it No,

1058
00:55:31,707 --> 00:55:35,267
Speaker 25: that would be the single biggest mistake you can may

1059
00:55:35,347 --> 00:55:37,147
Speaker 25: have faith in yourselves.

1060
00:55:37,987 --> 00:55:40,027
Speaker 2: Just to finish. Then if you and I are chatting

1061
00:55:40,027 --> 00:55:41,867
Speaker 2: a year from now, and I'm sure we will be,

1062
00:55:42,387 --> 00:55:45,507
Speaker 2: and it's a year out from the World Cup and

1063
00:55:45,627 --> 00:55:48,027
Speaker 2: the All Blacks are still off track a little bit,

1064
00:55:48,067 --> 00:55:52,067
Speaker 2: there are still work ons. Is November twenty twenty six

1065
00:55:52,227 --> 00:55:55,547
Speaker 2: too late to be ready for November twenty twenty seven?

1066
00:55:57,467 --> 00:56:00,547
Speaker 25: Look, I think what I know of the coaching staff,

1067
00:56:00,587 --> 00:56:04,427
Speaker 25: and I would think you would have and I call it.

1068
00:56:04,707 --> 00:56:06,787
Speaker 12: I call it the success flow chart.

1069
00:56:07,387 --> 00:56:09,347
Speaker 25: I would go, right, what do we need to do

1070
00:56:09,427 --> 00:56:13,467
Speaker 25: right here, right now to have a great December general? Obviously,

1071
00:56:13,507 --> 00:56:15,147
Speaker 25: players I'll have a break before they go back to

1072
00:56:15,227 --> 00:56:15,867
Speaker 25: Super Rugby.

1073
00:56:15,907 --> 00:56:18,027
Speaker 12: But but I would.

1074
00:56:17,787 --> 00:56:22,347
Speaker 25: Go all right, Plan A is we stay on track,

1075
00:56:22,427 --> 00:56:24,707
Speaker 25: we switch a few little things, and then we are

1076
00:56:24,787 --> 00:56:26,347
Speaker 25: reassessed this time next year.

1077
00:56:27,347 --> 00:56:30,267
Speaker 12: Plan A is, if we're going better, we do this.

1078
00:56:30,787 --> 00:56:33,787
Speaker 12: Plan B. If we're going the same, we do this.

1079
00:56:33,867 --> 00:56:37,707
Speaker 12: Plan C. If we're going really down on the train,

1080
00:56:37,827 --> 00:56:38,307
Speaker 12: we do this.

1081
00:56:39,067 --> 00:56:43,987
Speaker 25: I would think you need three plans ready and lined

1082
00:56:44,107 --> 00:56:46,587
Speaker 25: up to go so that this time next year, no

1083
00:56:46,627 --> 00:56:50,307
Speaker 25: matter what discussion you're and I are having, that they're

1084
00:56:50,307 --> 00:56:52,547
Speaker 25: not starting from scratch and going, oh my god, what

1085
00:56:52,587 --> 00:56:54,787
Speaker 25: the hell do we sorry, that's swear when.

1086
00:56:55,267 --> 00:56:57,707
Speaker 12: But what do we do? You know, what do we do?

1087
00:56:58,467 --> 00:57:00,947
Speaker 25: If you get to this time next year and you

1088
00:57:01,067 --> 00:57:05,347
Speaker 25: don't have alternative paths, then that's when the organization will

1089
00:57:05,387 --> 00:57:08,107
Speaker 25: force it on you. That's when you see those catastrophic

1090
00:57:08,387 --> 00:57:11,667
Speaker 25: decisions like boards saying, right, you guys are all out,

1091
00:57:11,707 --> 00:57:15,787
Speaker 25: We're bringing everybody in no matter what happens, highly successful

1092
00:57:15,907 --> 00:57:19,267
Speaker 25: same as we are now, or catastrophic failures. I would

1093
00:57:19,267 --> 00:57:22,467
Speaker 25: suggest very strongly the coaching staff and the leadership, you've

1094
00:57:22,467 --> 00:57:25,547
Speaker 25: got to have three plans up your sleeve so that

1095
00:57:25,787 --> 00:57:28,067
Speaker 25: you can come back from spring tour and go right.

1096
00:57:28,147 --> 00:57:30,667
Speaker 25: It didn't work quite the way we thought. We're still

1097
00:57:30,667 --> 00:57:33,307
Speaker 25: in track bank and Plan B is already in place.

1098
00:57:33,547 --> 00:57:37,027
Speaker 25: I would probably even have some shadow staff kicking in

1099
00:57:37,107 --> 00:57:39,267
Speaker 25: Plan B and see a little bit behind the scenes,

1100
00:57:39,787 --> 00:57:41,987
Speaker 25: so that if you've got to make a last minute change,

1101
00:57:42,027 --> 00:57:44,827
Speaker 25: they were already doing it. They're already We've already had

1102
00:57:44,907 --> 00:57:48,187
Speaker 25: that as a contingency plan if this happens. And I

1103
00:57:48,227 --> 00:57:51,667
Speaker 25: know it's counterintuitive because people say no high performance, totally committed,

1104
00:57:52,707 --> 00:57:54,627
Speaker 25: uncompromising dedication.

1105
00:57:54,267 --> 00:57:56,787
Speaker 12: To one plan. That's not the real world.

1106
00:57:56,907 --> 00:58:00,707
Speaker 25: You've got to be adaptable, flexible and ready to switch

1107
00:58:01,227 --> 00:58:04,707
Speaker 25: regardless of what happens to you. And I mean the

1108
00:58:04,787 --> 00:58:09,227
Speaker 25: Kuwees are still made to my They're just a benchmark,

1109
00:58:09,267 --> 00:58:11,267
Speaker 25: and they're smart enough to know that that they'll have

1110
00:58:11,307 --> 00:58:14,827
Speaker 25: three plans up this sleep and they'll have one in play,

1111
00:58:14,867 --> 00:58:17,187
Speaker 25: and I'll have two ready to go no matter what happens,

1112
00:58:17,667 --> 00:58:20,107
Speaker 25: so that they're firing in Rugby World Cup.

1113
00:58:20,627 --> 00:58:23,267
Speaker 2: Well, all Blacks fans listening across our country will certainly

1114
00:58:23,307 --> 00:58:25,827
Speaker 2: hope that you're right. Wayne. Terrific insight is always from

1115
00:58:25,827 --> 00:58:28,027
Speaker 2: you on a fascinating topic. Mate. Let's stay in touch

1116
00:58:28,187 --> 00:58:29,627
Speaker 2: look forward to catching up again soon.

1117
00:58:29,867 --> 00:58:31,027
Speaker 12: Always a pleasure, my friend.

1118
00:58:31,107 --> 00:58:34,907
Speaker 2: Thank you mate. That is Wayne Goldsmith WG coaching dot com.

1119
00:58:34,907 --> 00:58:39,827
Speaker 2: Incidentally is his website. Just a plethora of amazing insight

1120
00:58:39,907 --> 00:58:43,907
Speaker 2: and information on there. Wayne always brings good insight. One

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00:58:44,027 --> 00:58:45,987
Speaker 2: twenty four. Like I know, I said last week, we

1122
00:58:46,027 --> 00:58:49,267
Speaker 2: wouldn't talk All Black Rugby anymore. This year, probably we might,

1123
00:58:49,307 --> 00:58:51,267
Speaker 2: though we might just talk it for a couple of minutes.

1124
00:58:51,867 --> 00:58:54,987
Speaker 2: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Just put yourself

1125
00:58:54,987 --> 00:58:59,067
Speaker 2: in that review room, just, you know, just imagine for

1126
00:58:59,107 --> 00:59:03,947
Speaker 2: a second that you're part of the review process for

1127
00:59:03,987 --> 00:59:06,667
Speaker 2: the All Black years. So you've got Scott Robertson in

1128
00:59:06,667 --> 00:59:09,347
Speaker 2: front of you. What are the two or three questions

1129
00:59:10,427 --> 00:59:15,787
Speaker 2: that you're asking to get assurances that things are going

1130
00:59:15,827 --> 00:59:18,587
Speaker 2: in the right direction, And if you want to zoom

1131
00:59:18,587 --> 00:59:20,147
Speaker 2: out from that a little bit, I'd be very, very

1132
00:59:20,187 --> 00:59:22,827
Speaker 2: keen to know whether you think there are any circumstances

1133
00:59:22,907 --> 00:59:27,107
Speaker 2: under which they would make significant change. I've said it

1134
00:59:27,147 --> 00:59:29,787
Speaker 2: all along and I stand by it. I do not

1135
00:59:29,947 --> 00:59:35,107
Speaker 2: see them taking the nuclear option, much as it's been

1136
00:59:35,427 --> 00:59:39,067
Speaker 2: talked about, the fact that if they wanted to, they could.

1137
00:59:39,387 --> 00:59:41,907
Speaker 2: David Kirk's chair of the board and presumably he's running

1138
00:59:41,907 --> 00:59:45,627
Speaker 2: this process. Could if he wanted to make a change,

1139
00:59:45,667 --> 00:59:48,147
Speaker 2: he could say, look, we've given this two years. It

1140
00:59:48,147 --> 00:59:51,147
Speaker 2: ain't working. We're going to go a different way in

1141
00:59:51,227 --> 00:59:53,587
Speaker 2: order to get success at the twenty twenty seven Rugby

1142
00:59:53,587 --> 00:59:56,507
Speaker 2: World Cup. If he wanted to, he could, or the

1143
00:59:56,547 --> 00:59:59,427
Speaker 2: review panel could. I honestly cannot see a set of

1144
00:59:59,467 --> 01:00:02,627
Speaker 2: circumstances under which they would do that. It just doesn't

1145
01:00:02,667 --> 01:00:07,947
Speaker 2: seem feasible to me. It's not as though, you know,

1146
01:00:07,987 --> 01:00:10,987
Speaker 2: we've got a fifty percent win record under Scott Robertson

1147
01:00:13,227 --> 01:00:15,507
Speaker 2: ten out of thirteen this year, ten out of fourteen

1148
01:00:15,627 --> 01:00:21,507
Speaker 2: last year. It's hardly catastrophic. However, there will be assurances

1149
01:00:21,587 --> 01:00:26,627
Speaker 2: needed for comfort to be had around where we are

1150
01:00:27,227 --> 01:00:31,467
Speaker 2: with the Rugby World Cup now less than two years away.

1151
01:00:32,307 --> 01:00:34,587
Speaker 2: So just the two or three things that you'd want

1152
01:00:34,627 --> 01:00:38,147
Speaker 2: assurance is about. One thing that I would love to

1153
01:00:38,347 --> 01:00:40,547
Speaker 2: hear from Scott Robertson is that he is going to

1154
01:00:40,587 --> 01:00:45,547
Speaker 2: do more of the actual coaching of this team. And

1155
01:00:46,827 --> 01:00:49,227
Speaker 2: it may have come as a surprise to you, It

1156
01:00:49,267 --> 01:00:51,787
Speaker 2: certainly did a little bit to me that it was

1157
01:00:51,827 --> 01:00:54,027
Speaker 2: reported in the Herald back end of our Northern Tour

1158
01:00:54,067 --> 01:00:59,467
Speaker 2: that actually most of the tactical, actual rugby coaching of

1159
01:00:59,467 --> 01:01:01,907
Speaker 2: the team is not done by Scott Robertson that he

1160
01:01:01,987 --> 01:01:05,067
Speaker 2: is more of a manager in the style of an

1161
01:01:05,067 --> 01:01:09,307
Speaker 2: English football manager for example, who oversees things as a

1162
01:01:09,347 --> 01:01:14,067
Speaker 2: man manager. And Razor is big on his themes. I

1163
01:01:14,067 --> 01:01:16,147
Speaker 2: heard last night that he likes to When he was

1164
01:01:16,147 --> 01:01:19,667
Speaker 2: at the Crusaders, he used to theme their campaigns around

1165
01:01:20,187 --> 01:01:26,027
Speaker 2: highly successful sports teams from other codes. He'd themed around

1166
01:01:26,107 --> 01:01:29,427
Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm and the NRL, or the Chicago Bulls

1167
01:01:29,467 --> 01:01:32,067
Speaker 2: in the NBA and get his players to buy in

1168
01:01:32,107 --> 01:01:36,107
Speaker 2: that way. So he is very much more a big

1169
01:01:36,187 --> 01:01:39,027
Speaker 2: picture guy, if you like, rather than somebody who's going

1170
01:01:39,107 --> 01:01:42,787
Speaker 2: to do the actual coaching of you know, somebody who

1171
01:01:42,827 --> 01:01:44,867
Speaker 2: used to plan his position. Is he going to coach

1172
01:01:45,107 --> 01:01:48,947
Speaker 2: Peter Larkeye on on the intricacies of being an excellent

1173
01:01:49,027 --> 01:01:52,387
Speaker 2: number eight for example, see I think he would have

1174
01:01:52,387 --> 01:01:54,347
Speaker 2: a lot to offer in that space. Surely he would.

1175
01:01:54,387 --> 01:01:59,227
Speaker 2: He was a former All Black, so striking that balance

1176
01:01:59,347 --> 01:02:01,347
Speaker 2: and having assurances about that would be one thing that

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Speaker 2: I would I guess like to know. One twenty seven.

1178
01:02:03,947 --> 01:02:05,547
Speaker 2: It is Chris Hold. They've got to get a breakaway

1179
01:02:05,827 --> 01:02:07,427
Speaker 2: will come back with you. There is a spear line there.

1180
01:02:07,427 --> 01:02:09,147
Speaker 2: We'll talk some rugby for five ten minutes and then

1181
01:02:09,187 --> 01:02:10,987
Speaker 2: we'll we'll move if you want to jump on, Oh,

1182
01:02:11,027 --> 01:02:12,307
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1183
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1187
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1188
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Speaker 2: out for the all Black Shieer of twenty twenty five

1189
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Speaker 2: Chris Can.

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Speaker 26: I mate, yeah, mate, the old review process.

1191
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Speaker 27: Now.

1192
01:02:37,147 --> 01:02:40,867
Speaker 26: I was talking to a friend of mine free the

1193
01:02:40,987 --> 01:02:45,387
Speaker 26: international season and I said to him, if we managed

1194
01:02:45,427 --> 01:02:50,707
Speaker 26: to defend eden PERHKS record, win the blinterslow and win

1195
01:02:51,227 --> 01:02:55,667
Speaker 26: three out of the four tests when we go north,

1196
01:02:56,267 --> 01:02:59,707
Speaker 26: because you know it's a bit of a heart these days,

1197
01:02:59,787 --> 01:03:03,267
Speaker 26: Ireland and England are really good. So I said that

1198
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Speaker 26: would be my past mark. And it happened like we're

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Speaker 26: never going to win all games like we thought we

1200
01:03:12,907 --> 01:03:16,707
Speaker 26: did because we have as a country to alls other

1201
01:03:16,787 --> 01:03:21,987
Speaker 26: countries how to be excellent with all of our coaches overseas.

1202
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Speaker 26: So now I look at it. You know, we are

1203
01:03:27,707 --> 01:03:31,787
Speaker 26: the people need to drop our standards instead of thinking

1204
01:03:31,827 --> 01:03:34,627
Speaker 26: we need to win every single game. All right, we

1205
01:03:34,707 --> 01:03:37,547
Speaker 26: had a loss, Okay, what can we do from that?

1206
01:03:38,427 --> 01:03:41,827
Speaker 26: In an England game, there was two or three situations

1207
01:03:42,267 --> 01:03:45,187
Speaker 26: where if that ball went into touch, we had a

1208
01:03:45,307 --> 01:03:48,867
Speaker 26: line out ten meters away and we could have rumbled

1209
01:03:48,867 --> 01:03:52,067
Speaker 26: it up the guts and changed the game. So you know,

1210
01:03:52,347 --> 01:03:55,987
Speaker 26: for me, this was not a bad year. I can

1211
01:03:56,067 --> 01:04:00,107
Speaker 26: see this team growing and I'm very happy to see it.

1212
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Speaker 2: Just want to pick up on a couple of things there, Chris.

1213
01:04:05,747 --> 01:04:08,507
Speaker 2: You say, yeah, that kicked it out and rumbled ford

1214
01:04:08,507 --> 01:04:10,107
Speaker 2: and had a lineup that might have got another tribe.

1215
01:04:10,107 --> 01:04:13,147
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. It's those I think the two

1216
01:04:13,147 --> 01:04:16,627
Speaker 2: touch finders that you're referring to, they should have found touch.

1217
01:04:16,947 --> 01:04:18,707
Speaker 2: These are the All Blacks. And you talk about dropping

1218
01:04:18,867 --> 01:04:20,987
Speaker 2: dropping our standards, and I know that, you know, you

1219
01:04:21,027 --> 01:04:23,267
Speaker 2: can read that phrase a lot of different ways. I

1220
01:04:23,267 --> 01:04:24,987
Speaker 2: don't want to drop my standards on what the All

1221
01:04:24,987 --> 01:04:28,507
Speaker 2: Blacks represent. I want them to represent excellence. I don't

1222
01:04:28,507 --> 01:04:31,547
Speaker 2: want to be okay with nine wins out of fourteen

1223
01:04:31,627 --> 01:04:33,587
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, because you're right, I mean, Eden

1224
01:04:33,667 --> 01:04:36,147
Speaker 2: Park led us low and three at a four test wins.

1225
01:04:36,187 --> 01:04:38,307
Speaker 2: It sounds on paper pretty good a past mark, as

1226
01:04:38,347 --> 01:04:40,147
Speaker 2: you say. So then you look at next year and say, hoy,

1227
01:04:40,147 --> 01:04:41,947
Speaker 2: what's the pass mark for next year? When we go

1228
01:04:41,987 --> 01:04:44,707
Speaker 2: to South Africa and play them four times? What is

1229
01:04:44,747 --> 01:04:45,707
Speaker 2: the pass mark there?

1230
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Speaker 4: Is it?

1231
01:04:46,067 --> 01:04:46,827
Speaker 2: Two wins each?

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Speaker 26: I'll tell you now. I'll tell you now, two out

1233
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Speaker 26: of the four tests. That's the pass mark we're going

1234
01:04:56,107 --> 01:05:00,307
Speaker 26: to South Africa. Anything else is a bonus, But to

1235
01:05:00,427 --> 01:05:04,347
Speaker 26: win two of them over there, that's the pass mark

1236
01:05:04,427 --> 01:05:04,707
Speaker 26: for me.

1237
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Speaker 2: All right, Chris, Well, yeah, look, we'll no doubt you

1238
01:05:09,187 --> 01:05:13,067
Speaker 2: and I chat more about this as as time goes on. Sorry, Matte,

1239
01:05:13,067 --> 01:05:14,227
Speaker 2: you were just about to make another point.

1240
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Speaker 26: Sorry, yeah, we will because like that is like we

1241
01:05:19,787 --> 01:05:23,907
Speaker 26: are going there, but we've scrapped the old try nation

1242
01:05:24,947 --> 01:05:30,267
Speaker 26: and we are going deliberately to blood our guys against

1243
01:05:30,627 --> 01:05:35,027
Speaker 26: hardened rugby men of all of the provinces of South

1244
01:05:35,067 --> 01:05:38,187
Speaker 26: Africa and our and our B team that will play.

1245
01:05:38,787 --> 01:05:42,267
Speaker 26: This is great for us a year out from a

1246
01:05:42,307 --> 01:05:44,827
Speaker 26: World Cup, and it's good for South Africa too because,

1247
01:05:45,027 --> 01:05:48,067
Speaker 26: let's be honest, if it's not them at that So

1248
01:05:48,507 --> 01:05:53,307
Speaker 26: we we are going to be training our men. This

1249
01:05:53,307 --> 01:05:56,827
Speaker 26: this is an exciting next year to watch, but I

1250
01:05:56,947 --> 01:06:00,427
Speaker 26: expect to win out of the four tests.

1251
01:06:01,627 --> 01:06:03,827
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Chris. Always good chatting to you mate. I

1252
01:06:03,867 --> 01:06:07,027
Speaker 2: appreciate you calling from from the center coast of New

1253
01:06:07,067 --> 01:06:10,827
Speaker 2: South Wales every time. Always good to chat to you, mate. Yeah,

1254
01:06:10,867 --> 01:06:12,947
Speaker 2: and I guess there are two ways of looking at

1255
01:06:12,987 --> 01:06:15,347
Speaker 2: this in terms of what Chris was just saying there.

1256
01:06:15,507 --> 01:06:19,587
Speaker 2: You can look at it in terms of quantifiables like okay,

1257
01:06:19,627 --> 01:06:21,187
Speaker 2: if we win the Bletterers like Cup, or retain the

1258
01:06:21,187 --> 01:06:23,147
Speaker 2: Blazes like Cup. If we don't get beaten at Eden Park,

1259
01:06:23,187 --> 01:06:24,587
Speaker 2: if we win three or four tests on the end

1260
01:06:24,627 --> 01:06:27,827
Speaker 2: of your tour. These are quantifiable, but they're more outcome things, right,

1261
01:06:28,187 --> 01:06:31,907
Speaker 2: what about processes? Are we seeing improvement? Are we seeing

1262
01:06:32,027 --> 01:06:37,147
Speaker 2: enough in terms of the game plan, the style of rugby,

1263
01:06:37,227 --> 01:06:40,507
Speaker 2: those sorts of things. That's less quantifiable, right, It's more

1264
01:06:41,267 --> 01:06:46,107
Speaker 2: it's a bit more of a philosophical discussion are we improving?

1265
01:06:47,227 --> 01:06:50,827
Speaker 2: When you just go from tin tax of the data

1266
01:06:51,227 --> 01:06:54,067
Speaker 2: ten onnes out of thirteen, sometimes it doesn't give you

1267
01:06:54,107 --> 01:06:57,227
Speaker 2: the full picture. Greg, Hi, mate, there you am Pine.

1268
01:06:57,307 --> 01:06:59,027
Speaker 2: You're right, good, Greg, very good men.

1269
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Oh seems like it.

1270
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm glad you pulled Chris up there, because that's

1271
01:07:05,947 --> 01:07:08,187
Speaker 14: I think he says b this. I mean, like as

1272
01:07:08,187 --> 01:07:10,827
Speaker 14: far as the standards, that's that's the problem. It's right

1273
01:07:10,907 --> 01:07:13,147
Speaker 14: to the New Zealand society. And there you talk before

1274
01:07:13,187 --> 01:07:15,947
Speaker 14: about how you know we can't be expected to win

1275
01:07:16,027 --> 01:07:17,827
Speaker 14: every game, and then you hear the media talking to

1276
01:07:17,867 --> 01:07:20,827
Speaker 14: hear the general public talking about it. We say professional rugby,

1277
01:07:20,907 --> 01:07:23,227
Speaker 14: other teams got better. I don't think the New Zealand

1278
01:07:23,267 --> 01:07:25,067
Speaker 14: public expect that All backs to win every game. But

1279
01:07:25,107 --> 01:07:27,627
Speaker 14: I think the New Zealand public expect the All Blacks

1280
01:07:27,667 --> 01:07:30,427
Speaker 14: to attain try and attain excellence every time they go

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Speaker 14: on the paddock. If we don't, if we don't keep

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Speaker 14: that attitude, we'll never compete with these countries We've got

1283
01:07:36,027 --> 01:07:39,027
Speaker 14: more money and bigger populations, and it's creepy in New

1284
01:07:39,107 --> 01:07:40,907
Speaker 14: Zealand society. I don't know why we're dropping our stands.

1285
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Speaker 14: We've got to aim for that all the time.

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Speaker 2: Greg, you preach into the converted with me, mate, and

1287
01:07:47,307 --> 01:07:48,987
Speaker 2: I know a lot of our audience will be nodding

1288
01:07:49,027 --> 01:07:52,347
Speaker 2: their heads because the moment we start accepting and I'm

1289
01:07:52,347 --> 01:07:54,267
Speaker 2: not saying we do, but the moment we start accepting

1290
01:07:55,227 --> 01:07:58,747
Speaker 2: even not mediocrity. You know, I'm just hate they're doing okay.

1291
01:07:59,227 --> 01:08:01,547
Speaker 2: The moment we start accepting that from the all blacks,

1292
01:08:01,867 --> 01:08:04,747
Speaker 2: what this team has been built on disappears, just starts

1293
01:08:04,787 --> 01:08:09,267
Speaker 2: to evaporate every social every time we accept something subpar

1294
01:08:09,387 --> 01:08:12,107
Speaker 2: from them, when the legacy of this team has been

1295
01:08:12,187 --> 01:08:13,507
Speaker 2: built on excellence.

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Speaker 14: And I don't think they'll actually thinking that way, but

1297
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Speaker 14: if they keep from the public, from the public, and

1298
01:08:19,787 --> 01:08:22,187
Speaker 14: you know from the pundits of that, you know they

1299
01:08:22,227 --> 01:08:24,227
Speaker 14: will start to it will start to creep in there.

1300
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Speaker 14: And that's what really worries me.

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Speaker 2: Good on your great, great point, well made, Call back anytime.

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01:08:28,907 --> 01:08:30,347
Speaker 2: Make good to chet to you, Brent.

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01:08:30,267 --> 01:08:33,667
Speaker 27: High, good day, Jason, are you.

1304
01:08:33,507 --> 01:08:36,067
Speaker 2: I'm good, Brient, Thanks, how are you today?

1305
01:08:36,107 --> 01:08:36,707
Speaker 26: Good things?

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01:08:37,027 --> 01:08:37,227
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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01:08:37,307 --> 01:08:43,627
Speaker 27: Touching and mentoring. I think the guys like.

1308
01:08:46,107 --> 01:08:47,267
Speaker 21: Joe Smith and.

1309
01:08:49,027 --> 01:08:54,427
Speaker 27: Any other like that should actually be mentoring around the

1310
01:08:54,427 --> 01:08:57,747
Speaker 27: country instead of having capsule out of paper shufflers and

1311
01:08:57,787 --> 01:09:00,427
Speaker 27: the head office of Willington. Have those sorts of guys

1312
01:09:00,427 --> 01:09:04,547
Speaker 27: Smithy and those sorts of guys mentoring the that's the

1313
01:09:05,827 --> 01:09:09,907
Speaker 27: clubsop or not club sized than any team to pass

1314
01:09:09,947 --> 01:09:13,147
Speaker 27: that knowledge on. Because when you look at the NPC,

1315
01:09:13,707 --> 01:09:18,147
Speaker 27: A lot of the coaches are very young, and there's

1316
01:09:18,267 --> 01:09:22,387
Speaker 27: more to coaching than just being a player. And in

1317
01:09:22,547 --> 01:09:24,907
Speaker 27: taking up coaching you understand what.

1318
01:09:24,827 --> 01:09:27,227
Speaker 2: I mean, I do, I do, And look, I think

1319
01:09:27,667 --> 01:09:29,667
Speaker 2: the value of a guy like Wayne Smith and any

1320
01:09:30,067 --> 01:09:34,827
Speaker 2: if Wayne Smith walks into any coaching environment immediately there's

1321
01:09:34,867 --> 01:09:38,587
Speaker 2: benefit because the guy is just so capable of such

1322
01:09:38,627 --> 01:09:41,147
Speaker 2: a They call him the professor as you know. So yeah,

1323
01:09:41,187 --> 01:09:46,187
Speaker 2: anything he adds would be of extreme value then, and

1324
01:09:46,227 --> 01:09:49,267
Speaker 2: people people have suggested, sorry, sorry, Brian, people are suggested,

1325
01:09:49,547 --> 01:09:51,747
Speaker 2: you know that he spends more time in the All Blacks.

1326
01:09:52,987 --> 01:09:55,147
Speaker 2: I feel as though, once you become the All Blacks coach,

1327
01:09:55,267 --> 01:09:57,907
Speaker 2: yes you still need a bit of mentoring. Okay, you

1328
01:09:57,987 --> 01:10:02,667
Speaker 2: still need everyone wants to improve. But I'm not sure

1329
01:10:02,667 --> 01:10:07,147
Speaker 2: that Razors should need Wayne Smith in the environment to

1330
01:10:08,147 --> 01:10:12,107
Speaker 2: have greater success in that environment. Raiser is the All

1331
01:10:12,147 --> 01:10:15,907
Speaker 2: Blacks head coach. Yes he should take advice here and

1332
01:10:15,947 --> 01:10:16,667
Speaker 2: there we need it.

1333
01:10:17,187 --> 01:10:22,547
Speaker 27: But yeah, yeah, that's all I need to someone with that.

1334
01:10:23,627 --> 01:10:26,147
Speaker 27: And they say, if you're great, here is that as

1335
01:10:26,187 --> 01:10:27,587
Speaker 27: he did with Fuzzy and that.

1336
01:10:28,427 --> 01:10:31,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I mean it's a good example bring

1337
01:10:31,547 --> 01:10:35,027
Speaker 2: you know, Joshmitt was excellent Free and Foster in that environment.

1338
01:10:36,387 --> 01:10:40,747
Speaker 2: Would Joshmidt and Razor be a good fit? Don't know,

1339
01:10:40,787 --> 01:10:44,267
Speaker 2: Wouldjom even want to do it, don't know, But yeah,

1340
01:10:44,307 --> 01:10:49,587
Speaker 2: I sort of feel once you reach that that level, Yes,

1341
01:10:49,707 --> 01:10:53,187
Speaker 2: everybody needs mentors. Everybody needs people who they can confide in,

1342
01:10:53,547 --> 01:10:57,507
Speaker 2: who they can take advice from, whose opinion means a

1343
01:10:57,547 --> 01:11:00,467
Speaker 2: lot to them. But yeah, I don't know. I just

1344
01:11:00,467 --> 01:11:02,107
Speaker 2: sort of feel as though, if you're the All Blacks

1345
01:11:02,147 --> 01:11:05,547
Speaker 2: head coach, you should have most of the answers by

1346
01:11:05,587 --> 01:11:08,227
Speaker 2: the time you're ated to that role. Good on your brain,

1347
01:11:08,307 --> 01:11:09,787
Speaker 2: good to chat, Hello Carl.

1348
01:11:11,347 --> 01:11:14,027
Speaker 20: Oh hey Pony, your first time callers show.

1349
01:11:15,027 --> 01:11:19,107
Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show. Cal I was.

1350
01:11:19,027 --> 01:11:22,867
Speaker 20: Thinking about, like in terms of what the guest specker

1351
01:11:22,987 --> 01:11:25,987
Speaker 20: was talking about and making comments about how we've had

1352
01:11:25,987 --> 01:11:31,307
Speaker 20: a legacy. I think, you know, the bouncing off what

1353
01:11:31,347 --> 01:11:34,507
Speaker 20: the last caller said about coaching set up, and you

1354
01:11:34,547 --> 01:11:40,067
Speaker 20: know Brian Lahall he had two very good coaches, and

1355
01:11:40,067 --> 01:11:43,347
Speaker 20: and John Hard and Gris Willy and then we had

1356
01:11:43,867 --> 01:11:48,307
Speaker 20: we had Graham Henry. That went back to you know,

1357
01:11:48,387 --> 01:11:53,267
Speaker 20: he surrounded himself with uh, top notch or top class

1358
01:11:53,707 --> 01:11:57,387
Speaker 20: coaches as well. And I think that's probably where Razor

1359
01:11:57,467 --> 01:12:01,427
Speaker 20: is lacking because no one knows these other coaches and

1360
01:12:01,467 --> 01:12:05,107
Speaker 20: I think they're not at the same pinnacle or have

1361
01:12:05,267 --> 01:12:09,467
Speaker 20: the same experience being there, done that international experience, and

1362
01:12:10,267 --> 01:12:13,027
Speaker 20: I think that's probably what he's missing. And I would

1363
01:12:13,067 --> 01:12:15,827
Speaker 20: have thought it would have been better to have Jamie

1364
01:12:15,907 --> 01:12:21,267
Speaker 20: Joseph himself and Tony Brown come on board. And I

1365
01:12:21,307 --> 01:12:24,827
Speaker 20: think Graham Henry really said a real good foundation of

1366
01:12:24,867 --> 01:12:27,387
Speaker 20: how to do it. And I think with Ian Foster,

1367
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:28,627
Speaker 20: at the end of the day, you want to be

1368
01:12:28,667 --> 01:12:34,387
Speaker 20: a successful World Cup winning coach and surrounding yourself with

1369
01:12:35,547 --> 01:12:40,347
Speaker 20: equal or better coaches. You know, sometimes we need to

1370
01:12:40,347 --> 01:12:43,747
Speaker 20: set aside ego so we can get to the goal,

1371
01:12:43,867 --> 01:12:45,827
Speaker 20: which is to win a World Cup at the end

1372
01:12:45,827 --> 01:12:52,107
Speaker 20: of it. But I think he's gone back to us. Yeah,

1373
01:12:52,107 --> 01:12:57,147
Speaker 20: he surrounded himself with, in my opinion, not the same

1374
01:12:57,267 --> 01:13:01,107
Speaker 20: level of coaches as Wayne Smith and Steve Hansen or

1375
01:13:01,147 --> 01:13:06,187
Speaker 20: even Ian Foster when he surrounded himself with Joel Shuster,

1376
01:13:06,827 --> 01:13:08,587
Speaker 20: and I think that's probably what's missing.

1377
01:13:09,227 --> 01:13:11,107
Speaker 27: And I would I.

1378
01:13:11,027 --> 01:13:14,227
Speaker 20: Would really go Ego Sousing and Leers to go down

1379
01:13:14,267 --> 01:13:20,267
Speaker 20: and probably invite someone like Jamie Joseph. You know, if

1380
01:13:20,307 --> 01:13:23,827
Speaker 20: there's ultimate goal is to be a world a Rugby

1381
01:13:23,867 --> 01:13:27,467
Speaker 20: World Cup winning coach. And I probably that's my sentiments

1382
01:13:27,547 --> 01:13:31,027
Speaker 20: of where the review needs to come around. Rather than

1383
01:13:32,187 --> 01:13:35,947
Speaker 20: putting everything on Razor, he needs to get good coaches

1384
01:13:35,987 --> 01:13:37,987
Speaker 20: around them, top notch guys.

1385
01:13:38,707 --> 01:13:40,947
Speaker 2: Well, first things first, Carlott, I can't believe it's taken

1386
01:13:40,987 --> 01:13:43,907
Speaker 2: your list long to call the show. I needed you

1387
01:13:43,947 --> 01:13:45,707
Speaker 2: to call a lot, a lot earlier than nurse and

1388
01:13:45,707 --> 01:13:47,867
Speaker 2: I hope you'll be a regular from now on. Yeah,

1389
01:13:47,907 --> 01:13:49,947
Speaker 2: great point, And I guess history will judge, won't it.

1390
01:13:50,547 --> 01:13:54,947
Speaker 2: The likes of Scott Hanson, Jason Ryan, Tomothy Ellison the

1391
01:13:55,027 --> 01:13:58,067
Speaker 2: current assistant coaches. But you're right, you look back at

1392
01:13:58,587 --> 01:14:01,067
Speaker 2: Sir Brian Lahore and Ed Wiley in heart. They don't

1393
01:14:01,067 --> 01:14:02,747
Speaker 2: necessarily go on with one another, but as a team,

1394
01:14:02,747 --> 01:14:05,707
Speaker 2: I think they were great. The Sir Graham, Henry, Steve Hanson,

1395
01:14:05,787 --> 01:14:09,427
Speaker 2: Wayne Smith trio, you know, has proven, history has proven

1396
01:14:09,427 --> 01:14:13,587
Speaker 2: that that was, you know, an utterly tremendous trio. Eventually

1397
01:14:13,627 --> 01:14:15,987
Speaker 2: in O seven it wasn't, but in twenty eleven it was.

1398
01:14:16,067 --> 01:14:18,827
Speaker 2: So I guess history will judge what happens around the

1399
01:14:18,907 --> 01:14:21,787
Speaker 2: likes of Scott Hans and Jason Ryan and Scott robertson himself.

1400
01:14:21,787 --> 01:14:24,827
Speaker 2: But it's a it's a thought for a provoking call, Carl.

1401
01:14:24,947 --> 01:14:26,427
Speaker 2: Good to hear from you. Eight thanks for picking up

1402
01:14:26,467 --> 01:14:28,667
Speaker 2: the phone. Seventeen away from two. We'll not get on

1403
01:14:28,667 --> 01:14:30,107
Speaker 2: the head there, take a break, come back and head

1404
01:14:30,107 --> 01:14:33,587
Speaker 2: across the Tasman Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent standing by.

1405
01:14:33,907 --> 01:14:37,547
Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side and eighty ten eighty Weekend

1406
01:14:37,627 --> 01:14:41,907
Speaker 1: Sports with Jason Paine and GJ. Garvnerholmes, New Zealand's most

1407
01:14:41,947 --> 01:14:43,187
Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

1408
01:14:42,987 --> 01:14:47,187
Speaker 2: News Dogs NB coming up fourteen away from two Saturday afternoons.

1409
01:14:47,507 --> 01:14:49,587
Speaker 2: A feature of the show is a chat to our

1410
01:14:49,587 --> 01:14:53,107
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent Adam Peacock, who joins us now, Adam, can

1411
01:14:53,147 --> 01:14:56,227
Speaker 2: we start with cricket? The Second Ashes Test starts on

1412
01:14:56,267 --> 01:14:58,267
Speaker 2: Thursday at the Gap. Hopefully it will last longer than

1413
01:14:58,307 --> 01:15:02,467
Speaker 2: two days. Former captain and opener Mark Taylor has said

1414
01:15:02,467 --> 01:15:05,867
Speaker 2: this week that he reckons Travis Head should continue to

1415
01:15:05,907 --> 01:15:09,427
Speaker 2: open the batting after his match winning knock in Perth,

1416
01:15:09,507 --> 01:15:12,467
Speaker 2: and that Usmond Khawaja should be dropped from the side.

1417
01:15:12,747 --> 01:15:15,627
Speaker 2: Have these comments from Mark Taylor been met with general

1418
01:15:15,667 --> 01:15:16,507
Speaker 2: agreement or not.

1419
01:15:17,507 --> 01:15:22,747
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think people are before he got a backspasm,

1420
01:15:23,187 --> 01:15:27,547
Speaker 21: and yes, maybe it was kind of brought upon by

1421
01:15:27,907 --> 01:15:32,307
Speaker 21: overuse of golf, but everyone's used this an excuse basically

1422
01:15:32,387 --> 01:15:35,347
Speaker 21: to go, oh, well, look at his record. Well his

1423
01:15:35,507 --> 01:15:37,947
Speaker 21: record was the same pretty much before the Tests, and

1424
01:15:37,987 --> 01:15:40,947
Speaker 21: I didn't hear too much about his position. So yeah,

1425
01:15:41,347 --> 01:15:44,187
Speaker 21: feels a bit scapegoatish, even though we won the game

1426
01:15:44,227 --> 01:15:47,827
Speaker 21: by eight wickets, it was extraordinary Test matchup. But as

1427
01:15:47,867 --> 01:15:52,507
Speaker 21: we discussed last week. But yeah, I don't subscribe to

1428
01:15:52,507 --> 01:15:56,067
Speaker 21: that theory wholly, but a lot of people do. And

1429
01:15:56,067 --> 01:15:59,307
Speaker 21: it's Mark Taylor. He's captain his country, so fair enough,

1430
01:15:59,587 --> 01:16:02,627
Speaker 21: I'd go down the path of Buzzie says he's right

1431
01:16:02,707 --> 01:16:04,227
Speaker 21: the goal of a sudden again, but he's had a

1432
01:16:04,267 --> 01:16:08,147
Speaker 21: double backspasm. There's obviously something wrong structurally, So do you

1433
01:16:08,187 --> 01:16:11,507
Speaker 21: take the risk? That's the bigger question now is can

1434
01:16:11,547 --> 01:16:13,107
Speaker 21: you risk a guy like that where he's meant to

1435
01:16:13,107 --> 01:16:16,187
Speaker 21: be opening the batting and he can't. That's the question

1436
01:16:16,227 --> 01:16:17,787
Speaker 21: I reckon I've got to answer in the next couple

1437
01:16:17,827 --> 01:16:18,627
Speaker 21: of days.

1438
01:16:18,427 --> 01:16:21,627
Speaker 2: And just on Travis' head, I know he obviously, you know,

1439
01:16:21,787 --> 01:16:25,587
Speaker 2: battered unbelievably in that second innings in Perth and effectively

1440
01:16:26,147 --> 01:16:28,347
Speaker 2: took the game away from England and won it for Australia.

1441
01:16:28,387 --> 01:16:32,107
Speaker 2: But is he Is he a logical opening batsman and

1442
01:16:32,347 --> 01:16:34,227
Speaker 2: Test match cricket. I've always thought him as a middle

1443
01:16:34,267 --> 01:16:34,827
Speaker 2: lader batsman.

1444
01:16:35,707 --> 01:16:40,347
Speaker 21: Yeah, he's opened a couple of times over India Sri Lanka.

1445
01:16:41,707 --> 01:16:44,507
Speaker 21: He can do it. Is he is as effective as

1446
01:16:44,507 --> 01:16:45,387
Speaker 21: what he is at five?

1447
01:16:45,467 --> 01:16:46,307
Speaker 18: That's the big question.

1448
01:16:47,187 --> 01:16:48,987
Speaker 21: I don't think so. I think his track record at

1449
01:16:49,067 --> 01:16:52,827
Speaker 21: five is a lot better. But we're using that strength

1450
01:16:52,907 --> 01:16:57,627
Speaker 21: to cover a weakness in the opening spot. Probably if

1451
01:16:57,627 --> 01:16:59,387
Speaker 21: he ends up going now and I reckon, that's always

1452
01:16:59,427 --> 01:17:02,307
Speaker 21: lace with danger. So yeah, I'd keep him at five

1453
01:17:02,347 --> 01:17:06,227
Speaker 21: personally and find someone else to open the batting. But yeah,

1454
01:17:06,427 --> 01:17:09,107
Speaker 21: maybe as a short term fix. If Kwaja is not

1455
01:17:09,147 --> 01:17:11,267
Speaker 21: good enough and he's done what he's done in that

1456
01:17:11,347 --> 01:17:13,547
Speaker 21: first Test, well we use him again there, all right?

1457
01:17:13,587 --> 01:17:15,427
Speaker 2: We wait and see what happens when the second tist

1458
01:17:15,467 --> 01:17:19,227
Speaker 2: gets underway. The Wallabies have finished the year an unhappy

1459
01:17:19,427 --> 01:17:23,507
Speaker 2: Northern Tour, four straight defeats. Looking back on twenty twenty five,

1460
01:17:23,827 --> 01:17:27,147
Speaker 2: how should we and how do Australian rugby fans evaluate

1461
01:17:27,187 --> 01:17:27,587
Speaker 2: the year.

1462
01:17:29,107 --> 01:17:33,107
Speaker 21: Uh really the halfway mark, the feelings a lot different

1463
01:17:33,147 --> 01:17:36,787
Speaker 21: to now. I think that the general feeling is that

1464
01:17:36,827 --> 01:17:40,187
Speaker 21: it just ranked one of ranked disappointment. How it all ended,

1465
01:17:41,307 --> 01:17:43,827
Speaker 21: how it eventually came to pass that don't win a

1466
01:17:43,867 --> 01:17:47,387
Speaker 21: game in Europe. Yeah, couldn't get past the All Blacks

1467
01:17:47,427 --> 01:17:49,947
Speaker 21: again when they felt like they were there for the taking.

1468
01:17:50,747 --> 01:17:54,747
Speaker 21: But yeah, mixed up with a British and Irish Lions

1469
01:17:54,787 --> 01:17:57,387
Speaker 21: win and a near miss in that series, it must

1470
01:17:57,387 --> 01:18:00,187
Speaker 21: be said, and a win in South Africa. Yeah, it's

1471
01:18:00,787 --> 01:18:03,667
Speaker 21: hard to balance it all. But I'd be more on

1472
01:18:03,707 --> 01:18:06,347
Speaker 21: the disappointed side rather than because you wanted to see

1473
01:18:06,427 --> 01:18:09,867
Speaker 21: can push on after those those mid season results that

1474
01:18:10,227 --> 01:18:12,627
Speaker 21: they were going to actually improve and springboard off that.

1475
01:18:12,787 --> 01:18:16,307
Speaker 21: But it definitely felt like they had best plateaued. If

1476
01:18:16,507 --> 01:18:20,227
Speaker 21: at worst got bad, it went to pot if you

1477
01:18:20,227 --> 01:18:20,667
Speaker 21: know what I mean.

1478
01:18:21,107 --> 01:18:24,267
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, we'll wait to see what happens in

1479
01:18:24,467 --> 01:18:27,667
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. There to football. The Matilda's far too

1480
01:18:27,667 --> 01:18:29,987
Speaker 2: good for the football Ferns last night winning five mil

1481
01:18:30,427 --> 01:18:35,507
Speaker 2: in Gosford, Australia hosting the Women's Asian Cup in March.

1482
01:18:35,547 --> 01:18:36,867
Speaker 2: Now I do I think you've won this for a while.

1483
01:18:36,907 --> 01:18:38,867
Speaker 2: Twenty ten I think I read so how big a

1484
01:18:38,947 --> 01:18:42,467
Speaker 2: target is it for the Matilda's, your Australian women's football team,

1485
01:18:42,507 --> 01:18:45,307
Speaker 2: to win the Asian Cup on home soil early next year?

1486
01:18:46,107 --> 01:18:46,307
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1487
01:18:46,467 --> 01:18:50,587
Speaker 21: Big, especially for the players generationally. I think. I think

1488
01:18:50,627 --> 01:18:53,707
Speaker 21: Sam Kerr was in that squad in twenty ten.

1489
01:18:54,867 --> 01:18:57,427
Speaker 18: I think that the most of her generation.

1490
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Speaker 21: David shortly thereafter and having won a trophy since, had

1491
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Speaker 21: some unbelievable moments and change the face of women's sport

1492
01:19:07,387 --> 01:19:10,027
Speaker 21: in Australia, not just women's football in Australia. It's been

1493
01:19:10,027 --> 01:19:15,467
Speaker 21: an extraordinary half decade or more. Yeah, this bit, this

1494
01:19:15,547 --> 01:19:17,907
Speaker 21: is every chance. I mean, you've got everything in your favor.

1495
01:19:18,507 --> 01:19:22,147
Speaker 21: You were Australia was the last team left standing from

1496
01:19:22,147 --> 01:19:25,227
Speaker 21: this confederation. Not going to be easy. Japan will probably

1497
01:19:25,307 --> 01:19:27,667
Speaker 21: go in as favorites, but it's going to be big. Yeah,

1498
01:19:27,867 --> 01:19:29,547
Speaker 21: they'll sell it out again and every one will catch

1499
01:19:29,587 --> 01:19:32,227
Speaker 21: Matilda's fever again. So it's brilliant for football.

1500
01:19:32,307 --> 01:19:34,427
Speaker 2: And just while we're talking the ramball game, first A

1501
01:19:34,547 --> 01:19:38,467
Speaker 2: League means Sydney Derby tonight, Kombank Stadium, Sydney FC flying

1502
01:19:38,507 --> 01:19:41,227
Speaker 2: top of the table, four straight wins, Western Sydney only

1503
01:19:41,267 --> 01:19:43,147
Speaker 2: getting there first one of the season last weekend. But

1504
01:19:43,147 --> 01:19:45,107
Speaker 2: I feel like all bits are off on Derby Day,

1505
01:19:45,107 --> 01:19:45,507
Speaker 2: aren't they.

1506
01:19:46,667 --> 01:19:51,787
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's the general rule anywhere in the world. Yeah,

1507
01:19:52,027 --> 01:19:55,867
Speaker 21: I can't say it though. I think Sydney FC handle

1508
01:19:55,947 --> 01:19:58,867
Speaker 21: Western Sydney Wanderers. That all the talk from Wanders this

1509
01:19:58,907 --> 01:20:01,547
Speaker 21: week is about how much they get up for this

1510
01:20:01,587 --> 01:20:05,467
Speaker 21: game and they want to make it physical and not

1511
01:20:05,587 --> 01:20:09,507
Speaker 21: let their opponent get over them that way. I was

1512
01:20:09,547 --> 01:20:12,107
Speaker 21: to think if Sydney play their football and they tactically

1513
01:20:12,187 --> 01:20:14,187
Speaker 21: don't get it right Western Sydney Wanders without the ball,

1514
01:20:14,187 --> 01:20:16,307
Speaker 21: that could be in serious trouble. So who will wait

1515
01:20:16,347 --> 01:20:21,027
Speaker 21: to see Darby's take away your confidence if you're like

1516
01:20:21,067 --> 01:20:23,587
Speaker 21: one team or another just by virtue of what we've

1517
01:20:23,627 --> 01:20:26,667
Speaker 21: mentioned that at the start there. So yeah, probably Sydney's

1518
01:20:26,627 --> 01:20:28,907
Speaker 21: seen this one. But it's always a great occasion and

1519
01:20:29,307 --> 01:20:30,027
Speaker 21: can't wait to watch.

1520
01:20:30,227 --> 01:20:32,747
Speaker 2: Fantastic Always good catching up, Adam. Thanks for the latest

1521
01:20:32,787 --> 01:20:35,587
Speaker 2: update on Australian sporting matters. We'll do it again next weekend.

1522
01:20:36,387 --> 01:20:37,867
Speaker 21: Sounds good, Thanks buddy, No, thank.

1523
01:20:37,707 --> 01:20:41,387
Speaker 2: You, Adam. Adam Piccock there out of Australia with with

1524
01:20:41,587 --> 01:20:44,227
Speaker 2: matters from across the Tasman. Yeah. So that second Ashes

1525
01:20:44,267 --> 01:20:47,347
Speaker 2: Test starts on Thursday at the Gabba? Is that a

1526
01:20:47,427 --> 01:20:49,067
Speaker 2: day night? I know which one's the day night Andy?

1527
01:20:49,147 --> 01:20:50,667
Speaker 2: Is that the one you're going to an Adelaide? Or

1528
01:20:50,747 --> 01:20:55,307
Speaker 2: is Brisbane? The day night Brisbane and Brisbane? Yeah? Two

1529
01:20:55,347 --> 01:20:56,907
Speaker 2: day Yes, that's right. It might be a lofe at

1530
01:20:56,947 --> 01:21:00,907
Speaker 2: my lunch on day two. They might, they might, And

1531
01:21:00,947 --> 01:21:03,627
Speaker 2: I wonder if this sneaks into day three. Day nighties

1532
01:21:03,627 --> 01:21:07,147
Speaker 2: don't last long. If the sneaks into day three and

1533
01:21:08,187 --> 01:21:10,947
Speaker 2: Test matches over, they would have over the course of

1534
01:21:10,987 --> 01:21:14,187
Speaker 2: two Test matches, lost an entire Test match worth of days.

1535
01:21:15,947 --> 01:21:18,587
Speaker 2: So I just hope, I just hope that when you

1536
01:21:18,627 --> 01:21:21,227
Speaker 2: get to Adelaide for the Test match that you're taking

1537
01:21:21,227 --> 01:21:23,627
Speaker 2: and that must be the third Test? Is it before Christmas?

1538
01:21:23,347 --> 01:21:23,467
Speaker 19: Yes?

1539
01:21:23,787 --> 01:21:25,867
Speaker 2: I just hope you get it. Yeah, Like I just

1540
01:21:26,387 --> 01:21:30,027
Speaker 2: I wish for you a five day Test. Yeah, I'll

1541
01:21:30,027 --> 01:21:32,947
Speaker 2: take four. At the moment, I'll tell you I'll take four.

1542
01:21:33,547 --> 01:21:36,627
Speaker 2: It feels optimistic, Yeah, I know, I know. I'm very

1543
01:21:36,627 --> 01:21:39,147
Speaker 2: pretty bullish on that one. So I'll take four. If

1544
01:21:39,187 --> 01:21:42,787
Speaker 2: it's three long days, then that's good as well. Test

1545
01:21:42,787 --> 01:21:45,547
Speaker 2: cricket here in New Zealand this week as well. On Tuesday,

1546
01:21:45,547 --> 01:21:47,747
Speaker 2: the first of three Test matches begins at Agloval and

1547
01:21:47,787 --> 01:21:50,107
Speaker 2: christ Church. Are black Caps up against the West Indies?

1548
01:21:50,107 --> 01:21:52,667
Speaker 2: Are black Caps Head coach Rob Walter joins us on

1549
01:21:52,707 --> 01:21:56,587
Speaker 2: the show after midday tomorrow seven away from two New stalksb.

1550
01:21:56,867 --> 01:22:00,587
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world

1551
01:22:00,747 --> 01:22:03,427
Speaker 1: Weekends fort with Jason Hye call.

1552
01:22:04,987 --> 01:22:06,947
Speaker 8: News Talk ZB four to.

1553
01:22:06,907 --> 01:22:08,707
Speaker 2: Two on weekend Sport will take the news in it

1554
01:22:08,787 --> 01:22:10,827
Speaker 2: too and then be back into it. Mark great Batch

1555
01:22:10,947 --> 01:22:14,027
Speaker 2: going to join us after two o'clock. He is now

1556
01:22:14,107 --> 01:22:17,227
Speaker 2: the President of New Zealand Cricket. What exactly does that

1557
01:22:17,307 --> 01:22:20,507
Speaker 2: role mean? Is he on the board? Who does he

1558
01:22:20,587 --> 01:22:24,227
Speaker 2: discuss cricketing matters with most commonly? And while I've got

1559
01:22:24,267 --> 01:22:26,547
Speaker 2: Mark great Batch quite can to chat to him about

1560
01:22:26,547 --> 01:22:29,107
Speaker 2: that nineteen ninety two Cricket World Cup when he came

1561
01:22:29,107 --> 01:22:30,587
Speaker 2: out at the top of the order and just started

1562
01:22:30,587 --> 01:22:34,627
Speaker 2: smashing it and also that incredible innings in Perth when

1563
01:22:34,667 --> 01:22:38,067
Speaker 2: he defied Australia for eleven hours in scoring one hundred

1564
01:22:38,067 --> 01:22:40,307
Speaker 2: and forty six not out. So Mark great Batch, new

1565
01:22:40,347 --> 01:22:44,587
Speaker 2: President of New Zealand Cricket. First up after two.

1566
01:22:44,387 --> 01:22:47,307
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1567
01:22:47,667 --> 01:22:48,827
Speaker 1: and after fields.

1568
01:22:49,347 --> 01:22:53,027
Speaker 8: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vane on your

1569
01:22:53,067 --> 01:22:55,827
Speaker 8: home of Sport News Talks.

1570
01:22:56,867 --> 01:22:58,947
Speaker 2: Hello there, this is Weekend Sport on News Talks NB

1571
01:22:59,187 --> 01:23:01,707
Speaker 2: until three. Tim Beveridge will take the mic after that

1572
01:23:01,747 --> 01:23:03,987
Speaker 2: for the Weekend Collector. Before we can hand it over

1573
01:23:04,347 --> 01:23:07,867
Speaker 2: Mark great Batch shortly to talk about his new role

1574
01:23:07,947 --> 01:23:10,587
Speaker 2: as President of New Zealand Cricket, what that means and

1575
01:23:10,587 --> 01:23:12,747
Speaker 2: what it involves, but also want to take a bit

1576
01:23:12,787 --> 01:23:16,227
Speaker 2: of a wander down memory lane with a guy who

1577
01:23:16,307 --> 01:23:19,267
Speaker 2: was at the center of a couple of iconic cricket moments,

1578
01:23:19,387 --> 01:23:22,707
Speaker 2: the way he just went for it from the start

1579
01:23:23,067 --> 01:23:25,787
Speaker 2: during the nineteen ninety two Cricket World Cup, which at

1580
01:23:25,787 --> 01:23:29,347
Speaker 2: that time was quite the foreign concept, and also batting

1581
01:23:29,427 --> 01:23:34,107
Speaker 2: for eleven hours to defy Australia in Perth in nineteen

1582
01:23:34,187 --> 01:23:38,347
Speaker 2: eighty nine, one hundred and forty six not out. Yeah,

1583
01:23:38,347 --> 01:23:41,067
Speaker 2: a couple of iconic cricket moments. Mark gray Batch to

1584
01:23:41,067 --> 01:23:42,787
Speaker 2: come on the show. We're also going to talk some

1585
01:23:42,907 --> 01:23:48,347
Speaker 2: golf this afternoon because the Royal Wellington Golf Club is

1586
01:23:48,347 --> 01:23:52,507
Speaker 2: going to host the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship in

1587
01:23:52,547 --> 01:23:57,147
Speaker 2: February next year, bringing together the region's elite women amateur players.

1588
01:23:57,587 --> 01:24:00,227
Speaker 2: This has been developed by the RNA and Asia Pacific

1589
01:24:00,267 --> 01:24:04,267
Speaker 2: Golf Confederation and the winner gets the chance to play

1590
01:24:04,267 --> 01:24:06,987
Speaker 2: in three of the five women's majors, So it was

1591
01:24:07,067 --> 01:24:11,147
Speaker 2: quite the carrot there. Nick Shan, Assistant Director Asia Pacific

1592
01:24:11,227 --> 01:24:13,907
Speaker 2: at the RNA, is going to join us. We'll play

1593
01:24:13,947 --> 01:24:16,587
Speaker 2: a sporting chants with the tab one hundred and fifty

1594
01:24:16,587 --> 01:24:18,747
Speaker 2: dollars bonus bet for you to win and then have

1595
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Speaker 2: a bet with and collect any winnings that come your

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Speaker 2: way if your bet is astute, and we'll also preview

1597
01:24:24,827 --> 01:24:28,827
Speaker 2: the final round of sal GP with Chris Reeve out

1598
01:24:28,867 --> 01:24:31,907
Speaker 2: of the New Zealand Herald. Your cause and correspondence continue

1599
01:24:31,907 --> 01:24:33,947
Speaker 2: to be welcome. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: is our phone number nine two nine to two. Feed

1601
01:24:36,147 --> 01:24:40,707
Speaker 2: text messages emails to Jason at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot NZ.

1602
01:24:40,907 --> 01:24:43,587
Speaker 2: But as we tick past eight past two, as we

1603
01:24:43,827 --> 01:24:47,627
Speaker 2: always do on weekend Sport after the two o'clock news,

1604
01:24:48,187 --> 01:24:49,627
Speaker 2: we'd like to bring you up today with a few

1605
01:24:49,627 --> 01:24:51,627
Speaker 2: of the things that might have escaped your attention in

1606
01:24:51,747 --> 01:24:53,667
Speaker 2: case you missed it as the name of the feature.

1607
01:24:53,907 --> 01:24:57,867
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate, and of course Thanksgiving

1608
01:24:58,227 --> 01:25:02,267
Speaker 2: in the US means NFL football. The Green Bay pack

1609
01:25:02,387 --> 01:25:04,547
Speaker 2: is with a big win over the Detroit Lions.

1610
01:25:05,387 --> 01:25:12,507
Speaker 7: Yeah, Orphan three love looking around pressure his base through Nes.

1611
01:25:14,707 --> 01:25:20,707
Speaker 2: D'tavian legs loft. This shoe didn't matter. First down Packers

1612
01:25:20,787 --> 01:25:23,867
Speaker 2: and that will do it. The Dallas Cowboys put a

1613
01:25:23,867 --> 01:25:27,027
Speaker 2: massive Deans in the Kansas City Chiefs playoff hopes and

1614
01:25:27,187 --> 01:25:27,707
Speaker 2: they convert.

1615
01:25:27,787 --> 01:25:30,027
Speaker 7: Here Prescott looking around in trouble.

1616
01:25:30,107 --> 01:25:34,147
Speaker 28: He delposit two arms for the touchdown that the lads

1617
01:25:34,267 --> 01:25:36,987
Speaker 28: corment Gavantaine.

1618
01:25:36,347 --> 01:25:41,667
Speaker 2: Was open and waiting for us, and the Cincinnati Bengals

1619
01:25:41,707 --> 01:25:44,747
Speaker 2: have welcome back this stock quarterback Joe Burrow with a

1620
01:25:44,787 --> 01:25:46,027
Speaker 2: win over the Ravens.

1621
01:25:46,107 --> 01:25:51,707
Speaker 7: Pressure comes picked up for a yosef Ash touchdown. Cincinnati

1622
01:25:53,427 --> 01:25:56,267
Speaker 7: Eadie for the Fingals in the insoles getting up dat.

1623
01:25:56,387 --> 01:25:59,307
Speaker 2: Let's got a Formula one. Oscar Piastre doing his beast

1624
01:25:59,387 --> 01:26:03,347
Speaker 2: to close the gap on Orlando Norris and the Driver's championship.

1625
01:26:03,587 --> 01:26:08,067
Speaker 28: Russell absolutely lighting up the timing chants. Fernando Alonso goes

1626
01:26:08,187 --> 01:26:11,867
Speaker 28: third fastest, Rasta mart Here comes George Russell's across the

1627
01:26:11,947 --> 01:26:16,107
Speaker 28: line ghost quickest overall. George Russell, who's never taken a

1628
01:26:16,147 --> 01:26:19,267
Speaker 28: sprint pole to front Rose before, is in provissional pullman

1629
01:26:19,347 --> 01:26:22,147
Speaker 28: not for long, because Oscar Pias three by three one

1630
01:26:22,227 --> 01:26:26,747
Speaker 28: hundreds of a second claims his second sprint pole here.

1631
01:26:26,667 --> 01:26:29,867
Speaker 2: In katap Idigo. Oscar Pistree will lead the grid at

1632
01:26:29,907 --> 01:26:33,547
Speaker 2: the start of the sprint race in Cutter A close call,

1633
01:26:33,667 --> 01:26:37,307
Speaker 2: but the Tall Blacks fell late to the Australian Boomers

1634
01:26:37,347 --> 01:26:38,627
Speaker 2: and basketball last.

1635
01:26:38,507 --> 01:26:40,707
Speaker 14: Night doing nothing on offle and now red numbers on

1636
01:26:40,747 --> 01:26:41,387
Speaker 14: the shot block.

1637
01:26:41,387 --> 01:26:44,107
Speaker 2: Ikey must file and gets it done.

1638
01:26:44,707 --> 01:26:50,387
Speaker 6: Dude, huge shot by dave O Hickey, inconsistent three points

1639
01:26:50,387 --> 01:26:53,947
Speaker 6: suit up that has the capacity to knock it down

1640
01:26:54,827 --> 01:26:57,747
Speaker 6: and at the biggest moment of the game steps up,

1641
01:26:57,827 --> 01:27:00,787
Speaker 6: willing to take responsibility and knocks it.

1642
01:27:00,787 --> 01:27:03,387
Speaker 2: Down a five point last four the Tall Blacks eighty

1643
01:27:03,387 --> 01:27:06,147
Speaker 2: four to seventy nine and Hobart Game two in Wellington

1644
01:27:06,227 --> 01:27:09,347
Speaker 2: on Monday night and a great day at the Australian

1645
01:27:09,387 --> 01:27:15,227
Speaker 2: PGA Championship. The Kiwi golfer Kazuma Kibori and loves the wedges.

1646
01:27:16,947 --> 01:27:18,827
Speaker 2: It's going a little bit longer this year. One of

1647
01:27:19,107 --> 01:27:21,067
Speaker 2: one of the shortest players on our tour.

1648
01:27:22,067 --> 01:27:22,547
Speaker 5: He's done.

1649
01:27:25,467 --> 01:27:25,827
Speaker 2: That's it.

1650
01:27:26,867 --> 01:27:28,547
Speaker 9: Pick it up, I says.

1651
01:27:29,587 --> 01:27:37,067
Speaker 2: This time start he could be the outright leader. Sally

1652
01:27:37,107 --> 01:27:38,347
Speaker 2: be part of it.

1653
01:27:38,467 --> 01:27:43,427
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails weekend

1654
01:27:43,507 --> 01:27:45,027
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pine.

1655
01:27:45,267 --> 01:27:49,427
Speaker 2: News Talk zenby Yeah Kwei. Kazuma Kabori was the overnight leader.

1656
01:27:49,467 --> 01:27:52,427
Speaker 2: He's underway in his third round and two under through

1657
01:27:52,507 --> 01:27:55,587
Speaker 2: five holes to be twelve under for the tournament. That

1658
01:27:55,667 --> 01:27:59,987
Speaker 2: has a shock clear of Australian Anthony Quayle, who was

1659
01:28:00,027 --> 01:28:02,667
Speaker 2: all alone in second place at eleven under. And then

1660
01:28:02,707 --> 01:28:05,347
Speaker 2: there is a group of one, two, three, four five

1661
01:28:05,427 --> 01:28:08,867
Speaker 2: golfers on under. And then we find our way down

1662
01:28:08,907 --> 01:28:11,347
Speaker 2: to nine under the car where Daniel Hillier is. He's

1663
01:28:11,387 --> 01:28:14,267
Speaker 2: also two under, threw six holes today, nine under for

1664
01:28:14,347 --> 01:28:16,747
Speaker 2: the tournament. So a couple of key weis there, Kazumi

1665
01:28:16,787 --> 01:28:20,387
Speaker 2: Kabori and Daniel Hillier inside the top ten at the

1666
01:28:20,427 --> 01:28:25,587
Speaker 2: moment during the third round of the BMW Australian PGA Championship.

1667
01:28:25,587 --> 01:28:27,947
Speaker 2: We will keep you right up to date with progress.

1668
01:28:28,587 --> 01:28:31,427
Speaker 2: It's at twelve past two. New Zealand Cricket has a

1669
01:28:31,467 --> 01:28:35,467
Speaker 2: new president, former international batsman and Black Caps head coach

1670
01:28:35,747 --> 01:28:39,107
Speaker 2: Mark great Batch has succeeded Leslie Murdoch in the role

1671
01:28:39,227 --> 01:28:42,187
Speaker 2: on a three year term. Mark great Batch played forty

1672
01:28:42,227 --> 01:28:45,627
Speaker 2: one Test matches and eighty four One Day Internationals for

1673
01:28:45,827 --> 01:28:49,267
Speaker 2: New Zealand. He scored back to back ODI centuries on

1674
01:28:49,307 --> 01:28:52,747
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety two of England and pioneered the pinch

1675
01:28:52,827 --> 01:28:55,347
Speaker 2: hitting role at the top of the one day order

1676
01:28:55,427 --> 01:28:58,947
Speaker 2: during the nineteen ninety two World Cup, scoring three hundred

1677
01:28:59,027 --> 01:29:01,947
Speaker 2: and thirteen runs at an average of forty four point

1678
01:29:02,067 --> 01:29:04,827
Speaker 2: seven to one. During New Zealand's run to the semi

1679
01:29:04,827 --> 01:29:09,267
Speaker 2: finals in he scored a century on debut against England

1680
01:29:09,667 --> 01:29:14,627
Speaker 2: and an iconic unbeaten one hundred and forty six batting

1681
01:29:14,667 --> 01:29:19,067
Speaker 2: for eleven hours against Australia in Perth in November of

1682
01:29:19,187 --> 01:29:20,147
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine.

1683
01:29:21,867 --> 01:29:23,867
Speaker 29: Is there it is down the ground past mid on

1684
01:29:24,907 --> 01:29:26,067
Speaker 29: you magnificent hundred.

1685
01:29:35,467 --> 01:29:38,507
Speaker 30: I'm not even showing a lot of emotion, and I

1686
01:29:38,627 --> 01:29:40,147
Speaker 30: reckon there is and he's doing that.

1687
01:29:40,827 --> 01:29:41,387
Speaker 5: Is that.

1688
01:29:42,907 --> 01:29:46,347
Speaker 30: He doesn't feel as other job's completed. He wants to

1689
01:29:46,347 --> 01:29:48,627
Speaker 30: be here for the rest of the afternoon. Showed very

1690
01:29:48,667 --> 01:29:54,947
Speaker 30: little emotion. Then, what a great performance by Mark great

1691
01:29:55,027 --> 01:29:58,347
Speaker 30: Batch four hundred and sixty five minutes, one hundred ninety.

1692
01:29:58,427 --> 01:30:00,987
Speaker 29: To go off the ground and what a sensational moment

1693
01:30:01,027 --> 01:30:03,827
Speaker 29: for the New Zealanders. Mark great Batch and Martin Snadden.

1694
01:30:04,427 --> 01:30:06,067
Speaker 29: Prayer should be out on the ground. This a bit

1695
01:30:06,107 --> 01:30:09,107
Speaker 29: of its discussion there between Board and Peter McConnell. But

1696
01:30:09,267 --> 01:30:11,147
Speaker 29: the game is over and it's a draw. What can

1697
01:30:11,187 --> 01:30:14,867
Speaker 29: happened by Mark great Batch standing ovation in the small crowd?

1698
01:30:15,427 --> 01:30:18,067
Speaker 29: A wonderful happen. One of the all time great as

1699
01:30:18,107 --> 01:30:22,787
Speaker 29: far as saving a match. Congratulations to Mark and his

1700
01:30:22,907 --> 01:30:23,947
Speaker 29: team as a probatic.

1701
01:30:24,907 --> 01:30:25,067
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1702
01:30:25,107 --> 01:30:27,867
Speaker 2: Mark great Batch also a very handy fieldsman and later

1703
01:30:27,907 --> 01:30:31,747
Speaker 2: became coach of both Central Districts and New Zealand make

1704
01:30:31,787 --> 01:30:34,787
Speaker 2: great batches with us on weekend Sport. Mark, congratulations on

1705
01:30:34,827 --> 01:30:37,987
Speaker 2: this new role. What exactly does the position of New

1706
01:30:38,067 --> 01:30:40,187
Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket President involve?

1707
01:30:40,867 --> 01:30:43,187
Speaker 5: Thanks very much, nice to be on your show.

1708
01:30:44,547 --> 01:30:48,387
Speaker 4: It's it's very much an ambassador's role, you know, promoting

1709
01:30:48,427 --> 01:30:55,307
Speaker 4: the game positively, communicating with our members, you know, having

1710
01:30:55,387 --> 01:30:59,067
Speaker 4: good relations and having robust discussions about.

1711
01:30:59,067 --> 01:31:01,627
Speaker 5: The game and where the game is going to New Zealand.

1712
01:31:01,787 --> 01:31:04,587
Speaker 4: So you know, I think it's a it's it's an

1713
01:31:04,627 --> 01:31:09,067
Speaker 4: embassador's role on the board in a non voting capacity,

1714
01:31:09,107 --> 01:31:12,667
Speaker 4: but part of the board discussions in regard to projects

1715
01:31:12,747 --> 01:31:16,467
Speaker 4: and things that we think can help New Zealand Cricket

1716
01:31:16,507 --> 01:31:17,427
Speaker 4: go forward further.

1717
01:31:17,827 --> 01:31:20,667
Speaker 2: So you sit in on board meetings. Who will you

1718
01:31:20,827 --> 01:31:23,387
Speaker 2: have the most contact with in this role? Will it

1719
01:31:23,427 --> 01:31:25,667
Speaker 2: be the board members, the chair of the board, Will

1720
01:31:25,707 --> 01:31:28,307
Speaker 2: it be Scott Winning, the CEO of New Zealand Cricket.

1721
01:31:28,307 --> 01:31:31,307
Speaker 2: Who do you think you'll spend most time in conversation with.

1722
01:31:32,667 --> 01:31:35,147
Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty early days, Jason. I was only just

1723
01:31:35,187 --> 01:31:39,107
Speaker 4: been appointed. But you know, I think you know, the.

1724
01:31:39,507 --> 01:31:43,227
Speaker 5: Board members, the chair and the CEO.

1725
01:31:43,387 --> 01:31:45,067
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's you know, I'll be getting

1726
01:31:45,067 --> 01:31:47,947
Speaker 4: around the traps across the board, you know, not just

1727
01:31:48,027 --> 01:31:50,947
Speaker 4: going to the top stuff, but going watching the boys

1728
01:31:50,947 --> 01:31:54,027
Speaker 4: and girls that played this great game of ours around

1729
01:31:54,027 --> 01:31:56,707
Speaker 4: the country and and you know, talking to parents, talking

1730
01:31:56,747 --> 01:31:59,627
Speaker 4: to coaches. You know, I've got to you know, I've

1731
01:31:59,627 --> 01:32:02,227
Speaker 4: got to use my experience, Jason, as far as you

1732
01:32:02,227 --> 01:32:04,907
Speaker 4: know what I did, which was playing and coaching and

1733
01:32:05,347 --> 01:32:08,387
Speaker 4: you know, talent ID So you know, I'm really interested

1734
01:32:08,387 --> 01:32:11,507
Speaker 4: in where that's at. I've had probably ten years out

1735
01:32:11,547 --> 01:32:15,227
Speaker 4: of the game, you know, without being in there closely,

1736
01:32:15,387 --> 01:32:18,147
Speaker 4: So it'll be really interesting for me to listen and

1737
01:32:18,227 --> 01:32:21,467
Speaker 4: learn what's going on. And I'm really interested in how

1738
01:32:21,587 --> 01:32:27,587
Speaker 4: the organization runs the business of cricket in this modern, modern.

1739
01:32:27,867 --> 01:32:28,547
Speaker 5: Day of ours.

1740
01:32:28,907 --> 01:32:31,947
Speaker 2: So during that decade when you weren't so closely involved

1741
01:32:31,947 --> 01:32:34,187
Speaker 2: in the sport, did you always have a hankering to

1742
01:32:34,227 --> 01:32:36,667
Speaker 2: get back directly involved in cricket.

1743
01:32:38,187 --> 01:32:40,907
Speaker 4: Well, I've always been involved in some form. I mean

1744
01:32:40,947 --> 01:32:44,307
Speaker 4: I ended up full time wise. I wanted to coach

1745
01:32:44,787 --> 01:32:47,347
Speaker 4: the kids to finish my coaching sort of career, so

1746
01:32:47,387 --> 01:32:49,547
Speaker 4: I ended up having four or five years at a

1747
01:32:49,587 --> 01:32:50,467
Speaker 4: school in Auckland.

1748
01:32:50,587 --> 01:32:53,587
Speaker 5: So you know, I haven't really been out of it.

1749
01:32:53,827 --> 01:32:56,947
Speaker 4: I do a little bit part time coaching in Queenstown

1750
01:32:56,987 --> 01:32:59,507
Speaker 4: where I live now, and and so I've always been

1751
01:32:59,547 --> 01:33:02,707
Speaker 4: around the game. This came out of the blue, to

1752
01:33:02,747 --> 01:33:05,667
Speaker 4: be fair, and you know, I had a really good

1753
01:33:05,667 --> 01:33:08,307
Speaker 4: think about because it's actually a three year term, so

1754
01:33:08,347 --> 01:33:11,707
Speaker 4: it's not a short term. But you know, when you

1755
01:33:11,827 --> 01:33:13,947
Speaker 4: talk I talk to Leslie Murdoch and a couple of

1756
01:33:13,987 --> 01:33:16,907
Speaker 4: other people that have been in the role, and they,

1757
01:33:17,427 --> 01:33:19,867
Speaker 4: you know, they said, it's it's such a rewarding role,

1758
01:33:19,947 --> 01:33:23,547
Speaker 4: because you're seeing the game that we all love, you know,

1759
01:33:23,667 --> 01:33:26,147
Speaker 4: particularly you know, I'm trying to think when I started

1760
01:33:26,147 --> 01:33:29,827
Speaker 4: playing cricket call part with you know, Long White Socks, and.

1761
01:33:31,547 --> 01:33:34,547
Speaker 5: When we love the game with Martin Crow and co.

1762
01:33:34,867 --> 01:33:37,227
Speaker 4: And you know, I think that's what I want to

1763
01:33:37,227 --> 01:33:40,987
Speaker 4: try and enjoy is going seeing those sorts of games

1764
01:33:41,067 --> 01:33:45,547
Speaker 4: and just just enjoying it and also listening. You know,

1765
01:33:45,587 --> 01:33:48,187
Speaker 4: I think you've got to in this role, You've got

1766
01:33:48,187 --> 01:33:50,467
Speaker 4: to listen and see what the pop of the game is.

1767
01:33:51,507 --> 01:33:54,787
Speaker 4: You know, there's some really exciting and challenging at the

1768
01:33:54,787 --> 01:33:58,587
Speaker 4: same things that are happening and will cricket at the moment,

1769
01:33:59,107 --> 01:34:01,467
Speaker 4: but you know, a little New Zealand do pretty well

1770
01:34:01,747 --> 01:34:05,107
Speaker 4: and it would be really important, really important and really

1771
01:34:05,227 --> 01:34:08,307
Speaker 4: cool of something over the next three or four years

1772
01:34:07,867 --> 01:34:11,027
Speaker 4: to help grow our game even further.

1773
01:34:11,427 --> 01:34:13,867
Speaker 2: So what do you perceive to be the biggest issues

1774
01:34:14,067 --> 01:34:17,067
Speaker 2: and challenges facing the game of cricket in New Zealand

1775
01:34:17,147 --> 01:34:17,547
Speaker 2: right now?

1776
01:34:20,147 --> 01:34:22,667
Speaker 4: You know, the calendar, there's only so many days in

1777
01:34:22,707 --> 01:34:27,347
Speaker 4: the year, and you know, I really put my head

1778
01:34:27,387 --> 01:34:30,067
Speaker 4: off to our people that work full time in the

1779
01:34:30,107 --> 01:34:33,067
Speaker 4: game regarding scheduling, and you know, there's a lot of

1780
01:34:33,067 --> 01:34:36,387
Speaker 4: cricket plays. I got a spreadsheet the other day. I

1781
01:34:36,467 --> 01:34:38,667
Speaker 4: got it in front of me. Now is the amount

1782
01:34:38,667 --> 01:34:41,947
Speaker 4: of cricket that has played at all the different levels tournaments,

1783
01:34:42,027 --> 01:34:45,467
Speaker 4: you know, tours, et cetera. So you know, I think

1784
01:34:45,507 --> 01:34:51,347
Speaker 4: that's always challenging, but it's exciting too because there's different formats.

1785
01:34:52,267 --> 01:34:54,747
Speaker 4: You know, there's the woman's game which has really taken

1786
01:34:55,427 --> 01:34:59,347
Speaker 4: taken on another leg and the girls. You know, the girls,

1787
01:34:59,747 --> 01:35:02,067
Speaker 4: you know a world tournament last year in the twenty

1788
01:35:02,147 --> 01:35:04,947
Speaker 4: twenty which was just really really cool to see.

1789
01:35:05,347 --> 01:35:07,987
Speaker 2: Speaking of the TEA twenty game, what is your view

1790
01:35:08,307 --> 01:35:11,387
Speaker 2: on the current conversation which is going on about the

1791
01:35:11,507 --> 01:35:13,627
Speaker 2: domestic t twenty game here?

1792
01:35:15,107 --> 01:35:19,387
Speaker 4: Well, what I can say as it's exciting because you know,

1793
01:35:19,467 --> 01:35:22,827
Speaker 4: New Zealand Cricket are currently looking at options and there's

1794
01:35:22,867 --> 01:35:25,907
Speaker 4: a few options on the table and they're quite exciting.

1795
01:35:26,547 --> 01:35:28,547
Speaker 5: So you know, it's early days.

1796
01:35:28,587 --> 01:35:30,267
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of d D to be

1797
01:35:30,387 --> 01:35:33,547
Speaker 4: done over the next few months, which has been done

1798
01:35:33,587 --> 01:35:39,467
Speaker 4: currently and I think whatever happens, whatever the decision has

1799
01:35:39,547 --> 01:35:43,107
Speaker 4: made in the best insur New Zealand cricket, I think

1800
01:35:43,147 --> 01:35:45,467
Speaker 4: it will be very very exciting.

1801
01:35:45,987 --> 01:35:48,267
Speaker 2: You come into the role of president at a very

1802
01:35:48,347 --> 01:35:51,027
Speaker 2: interesting time. There are a few issues going on at

1803
01:35:51,027 --> 01:35:53,747
Speaker 2: the moment, being reported that there's tension between the board,

1804
01:35:54,107 --> 01:35:57,587
Speaker 2: the major associations and New Zealand Cricket CEO Scott Winnik

1805
01:35:58,027 --> 01:36:01,587
Speaker 2: as President Mark, how much do you involve yourself in

1806
01:36:01,587 --> 01:36:08,907
Speaker 2: those conversations.

1807
01:36:05,947 --> 01:36:09,587
Speaker 5: Really that I mean, that's not my area. You know,

1808
01:36:09,707 --> 01:36:10,467
Speaker 5: that's a cheer.

1809
01:36:11,587 --> 01:36:15,507
Speaker 4: She's in charge of the board and you know, obviously

1810
01:36:15,787 --> 01:36:19,747
Speaker 4: I might be in conversations, but they're confidential and really,

1811
01:36:20,147 --> 01:36:24,587
Speaker 4: you know, again it's about trying to have the relations

1812
01:36:24,667 --> 01:36:28,627
Speaker 4: and the great communication between our stakeholders, you know, which

1813
01:36:28,707 --> 01:36:33,627
Speaker 4: is made with Association, the Players Association, the DA's Club,

1814
01:36:33,667 --> 01:36:37,067
Speaker 4: Cricket across the board. We've got to do as well

1815
01:36:37,107 --> 01:36:40,147
Speaker 4: as we can and it's challenging at times, even in

1816
01:36:40,227 --> 01:36:43,947
Speaker 4: a little old New Zealand, you know, the communication when

1817
01:36:43,987 --> 01:36:47,827
Speaker 4: people get busy with the season and preparation during the winter.

1818
01:36:48,627 --> 01:36:54,107
Speaker 4: But it's really important part of our organization to you know,

1819
01:36:54,307 --> 01:36:58,187
Speaker 4: be really really clear in what we're trying to achieve

1820
01:36:58,387 --> 01:37:02,747
Speaker 4: and communicate that and work with the stakeholders because they

1821
01:37:02,747 --> 01:37:05,467
Speaker 4: are the ones that are the foot soldiers on the

1822
01:37:05,507 --> 01:37:09,027
Speaker 4: ground in their districts in their majors.

1823
01:37:09,107 --> 01:37:12,427
Speaker 5: So that's really important to have great relationships.

1824
01:37:13,267 --> 01:37:15,147
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to get you on air for quite

1825
01:37:15,147 --> 01:37:17,227
Speaker 2: a while actually to talk about a couple of iconic

1826
01:37:17,267 --> 01:37:19,907
Speaker 2: cricket moments which you were right at the heart of,

1827
01:37:20,507 --> 01:37:22,907
Speaker 2: so I might take that opportunity now. Actually, that's okay.

1828
01:37:22,947 --> 01:37:25,307
Speaker 2: The nineteen ninety two World Cup was the first one,

1829
01:37:25,787 --> 01:37:30,067
Speaker 2: that incredible tournament based here and in Australia where the

1830
01:37:30,147 --> 01:37:32,587
Speaker 2: young guns, as you were termed back then, took us

1831
01:37:32,587 --> 01:37:35,067
Speaker 2: on a wonderful run to the semi finals. How do

1832
01:37:35,107 --> 01:37:38,307
Speaker 2: you remember the nineteen ninety two Cricket World Cup.

1833
01:37:40,107 --> 01:37:42,867
Speaker 4: Well, I think the whole country because the tournament was

1834
01:37:42,867 --> 01:37:45,147
Speaker 4: in Australia and New Zealand and we played all our

1835
01:37:45,187 --> 01:37:49,907
Speaker 4: games in New Zealand. You know, we started winning, which helps,

1836
01:37:50,347 --> 01:37:53,747
Speaker 4: but you know, I remember the public and going to

1837
01:37:53,787 --> 01:37:56,827
Speaker 4: the different regions. It was a real excitement for the

1838
01:37:56,867 --> 01:38:01,187
Speaker 4: game and for us, you know, in that tournament particularly,

1839
01:38:01,667 --> 01:38:05,187
Speaker 4: so you know that was the helter skelter. Obviously the

1840
01:38:05,227 --> 01:38:08,267
Speaker 4: eighties with one day cricket started it and we had

1841
01:38:08,307 --> 01:38:11,707
Speaker 4: a great team there playing competitive cricket against some effects

1842
01:38:11,747 --> 01:38:14,347
Speaker 4: in the world. And then the ninety two World Cup,

1843
01:38:14,387 --> 01:38:17,987
Speaker 4: I think took it again, so you know, I mean

1844
01:38:18,147 --> 01:38:19,107
Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun.

1845
01:38:19,147 --> 01:38:22,827
Speaker 5: It was six eight weeks. I mean it ended tragically.

1846
01:38:22,387 --> 01:38:25,707
Speaker 4: Like sport does sometimes when we lost in the semi

1847
01:38:25,787 --> 01:38:27,987
Speaker 4: to Pokistan. But you know, I think there was a

1848
01:38:28,027 --> 01:38:32,387
Speaker 4: real excitement about the game. And you know, I mean

1849
01:38:32,387 --> 01:38:35,747
Speaker 4: out our guys and girls are competing on the world

1850
01:38:35,787 --> 01:38:40,827
Speaker 4: stage now in different formats and world tournaments and doing

1851
01:38:40,867 --> 01:38:41,307
Speaker 4: us proud.

1852
01:38:41,347 --> 01:38:43,267
Speaker 2: I think if we think back to the way that

1853
01:38:43,307 --> 01:38:46,707
Speaker 2: One day cricket was played in the early nineties, it

1854
01:38:46,747 --> 01:38:48,907
Speaker 2: was still very much certainly at the top of the order.

1855
01:38:48,907 --> 01:38:51,427
Speaker 2: Anyway you'd play yourself in. You might get through the

1856
01:38:51,467 --> 01:38:54,027
Speaker 2: first ten overs and big thirty without loss and be

1857
01:38:54,107 --> 01:38:55,827
Speaker 2: quite happy with that. But of course you came in

1858
01:38:56,627 --> 01:38:59,227
Speaker 2: and started pinch hitting at the top of the order,

1859
01:38:59,267 --> 01:39:02,907
Speaker 2: which had very rarely been seen before, particularly by New

1860
01:39:02,987 --> 01:39:08,307
Speaker 2: Zealand batsman. Was that an intentional decision? Before the tournament started, Mark,

1861
01:39:08,347 --> 01:39:11,027
Speaker 2: you and Martin Krod maybe Warren least the coach decided

1862
01:39:11,067 --> 01:39:12,827
Speaker 2: that you'd just go for it from ball one.

1863
01:39:14,707 --> 01:39:17,107
Speaker 4: Well, I think from memory, which is a long time ago,

1864
01:39:17,387 --> 01:39:20,347
Speaker 4: so it's probably clouded. But I was playing so badly

1865
01:39:20,587 --> 01:39:22,827
Speaker 4: they just said to me go out and play freely

1866
01:39:23,387 --> 01:39:26,627
Speaker 4: and so they almost gave me, you know, a.

1867
01:39:26,587 --> 01:39:28,027
Speaker 5: Free sort of script.

1868
01:39:28,347 --> 01:39:32,547
Speaker 4: And and myself and Rod Latham, who played positively in

1869
01:39:32,547 --> 01:39:35,987
Speaker 4: that tournament too, is that we did start to try

1870
01:39:36,027 --> 01:39:39,427
Speaker 4: and play a bit differently, to just change the you know,

1871
01:39:39,507 --> 01:39:41,827
Speaker 4: the way the game was played and being a bit

1872
01:39:41,827 --> 01:39:47,067
Speaker 4: more aggressive. Now now it looks like pretty sedately compared

1873
01:39:47,107 --> 01:39:49,347
Speaker 4: to the modern game, but you know, scoring at six

1874
01:39:49,427 --> 01:39:52,627
Speaker 4: or seven and over back then from two or three

1875
01:39:52,947 --> 01:39:53,947
Speaker 4: was quite a difference.

1876
01:39:55,267 --> 01:39:59,067
Speaker 5: So you know that that was the transition.

1877
01:39:59,227 --> 01:40:01,947
Speaker 4: And then the Slankins and next World Cup took it

1878
01:40:01,987 --> 01:40:04,707
Speaker 4: to another level with their openess.

1879
01:40:05,067 --> 01:40:07,267
Speaker 2: And the other iconic moment, and of course is the

1880
01:40:07,387 --> 01:40:10,827
Speaker 2: unbeaten one hundred and forty six in Perth to save

1881
01:40:10,867 --> 01:40:13,747
Speaker 2: the Test against Australia in November nineteen eighty nine. In fact,

1882
01:40:13,787 --> 01:40:16,107
Speaker 2: I've had it pointed out to me that is exactly

1883
01:40:16,147 --> 01:40:20,227
Speaker 2: thirty six years ago today that you played that innings,

1884
01:40:20,347 --> 01:40:22,627
Speaker 2: or certainly the second day of it, six hundred and

1885
01:40:22,667 --> 01:40:25,827
Speaker 2: fifty five minutes you're out there, four hundred and eighty

1886
01:40:25,867 --> 01:40:29,827
Speaker 2: five deliveries you faced. When you think back to that innings,

1887
01:40:29,827 --> 01:40:31,387
Speaker 2: what stands out most about.

1888
01:40:31,187 --> 01:40:33,547
Speaker 5: It, Well, it's interesting.

1889
01:40:33,587 --> 01:40:35,507
Speaker 4: I've just come back from Australia and I had the

1890
01:40:35,907 --> 01:40:39,187
Speaker 4: honor of spending some time with Alan Border, the great

1891
01:40:39,187 --> 01:40:41,947
Speaker 4: Alan Border, who was captain in that team, and I

1892
01:40:41,987 --> 01:40:45,587
Speaker 4: do remember him getting quite grumpy at the end of it.

1893
01:40:45,587 --> 01:40:49,107
Speaker 5: Because he couldn't give me out. His bowlers couldn't get

1894
01:40:49,107 --> 01:40:49,427
Speaker 5: me out.

1895
01:40:49,467 --> 01:40:53,707
Speaker 4: And even a few days ago he said, you were

1896
01:40:53,787 --> 01:40:56,667
Speaker 4: so boring in that Test, but he said it was

1897
01:40:56,787 --> 01:41:00,467
Speaker 4: amazing defense of display of Test cricket.

1898
01:41:00,507 --> 01:41:04,667
Speaker 5: And you know that we were without Richard Hadley who

1899
01:41:04,707 --> 01:41:05,227
Speaker 5: was injured.

1900
01:41:05,547 --> 01:41:09,107
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Andrew Jones was injured and John Bracewa was injured,

1901
01:41:09,147 --> 01:41:12,227
Speaker 4: so we went into that Test without three of our

1902
01:41:12,347 --> 01:41:15,627
Speaker 4: key players and to come out of that with a

1903
01:41:15,747 --> 01:41:20,707
Speaker 4: draw was pretty remarkable really, and you know, obviously it

1904
01:41:20,787 --> 01:41:24,067
Speaker 4: was probably you know, fortunately it was my highlight of

1905
01:41:24,107 --> 01:41:27,387
Speaker 4: my Test career because you know, I played at a

1906
01:41:27,467 --> 01:41:30,787
Speaker 4: high level for that game over a long period of time.

1907
01:41:30,867 --> 01:41:33,507
Speaker 4: I think I spent twenty nine out of thirty hours

1908
01:41:34,067 --> 01:41:38,267
Speaker 4: on the field. Because Australia got five fifty. I think

1909
01:41:38,627 --> 01:41:40,867
Speaker 4: Boone got two hundred, so we felt it a long

1910
01:41:40,907 --> 01:41:43,787
Speaker 4: time and then we bat it then followed on and

1911
01:41:43,827 --> 01:41:46,427
Speaker 4: I think I only had an hour in both of.

1912
01:41:46,347 --> 01:41:49,147
Speaker 5: Those innings is where I actually wasn't on the park,

1913
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Speaker 5: so you know it was.

1914
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Speaker 4: You know, it's a great memory and you know the

1915
01:41:55,747 --> 01:41:58,347
Speaker 4: little marts need denin and bat it for three hours

1916
01:41:58,387 --> 01:42:01,067
Speaker 4: at the end of that test and he got absolute

1917
01:42:01,267 --> 01:42:05,987
Speaker 4: battered by their quick bowls and he didn't flinch. I

1918
01:42:06,027 --> 01:42:08,427
Speaker 4: remember Chris Ken's playing his first Test. He bet it

1919
01:42:08,467 --> 01:42:10,587
Speaker 4: for a couple of hours with me. So it was

1920
01:42:10,627 --> 01:42:13,307
Speaker 4: a real team effort to try and you say, the

1921
01:42:13,387 --> 01:42:17,187
Speaker 4: Test and obviously winning test matches what it's all about.

1922
01:42:17,227 --> 01:42:20,747
Speaker 4: But sometimes you know, it can be as exciting watching

1923
01:42:21,867 --> 01:42:25,787
Speaker 4: a Test like that when it's you know, you know,

1924
01:42:25,867 --> 01:42:28,747
Speaker 4: test cricket is that's what it's about. You know, it's

1925
01:42:28,787 --> 01:42:33,107
Speaker 4: a test to your character, test to your skill, test physically.

1926
01:42:34,227 --> 01:42:35,907
Speaker 5: And all I can hope is that.

1927
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Speaker 4: Brisbane in a couple of weeks goes longer than two

1928
01:42:38,227 --> 01:42:39,787
Speaker 4: days exactly.

1929
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Speaker 2: Yes, it from one extreme to the other. The fact

1930
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Speaker 2: we're still talking about you're wunning thirty six years on,

1931
01:42:44,307 --> 01:42:47,267
Speaker 2: I think shows that it has stood the test of time.

1932
01:42:47,507 --> 01:42:49,747
Speaker 2: Part in the punt mark. Great to catch up to

1933
01:42:49,987 --> 01:42:51,987
Speaker 2: reminisce a bit, but also to chat about your new

1934
01:42:52,067 --> 01:42:54,667
Speaker 2: role as president of New Zealand Cricket. Thanks for taking

1935
01:42:54,707 --> 01:42:56,507
Speaker 2: the time this afternoon. Look forward to staying in touch

1936
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Speaker 2: over the next little while.

1937
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Speaker 5: Thank you take care Jason, now you.

1938
01:42:59,107 --> 01:43:01,547
Speaker 2: Take care too, Mark. Thanks indeed, Mark great Batch there

1939
01:43:01,787 --> 01:43:04,867
Speaker 2: one of our former greats and now presidents of New

1940
01:43:04,987 --> 01:43:08,547
Speaker 2: Zealand Cricket. Just freshly elected on a three year term

1941
01:43:08,787 --> 01:43:11,587
Speaker 2: two twenty seven. Speaking of cricket, just updating you on

1942
01:43:11,827 --> 01:43:14,827
Speaker 2: day four run chases in the Plunket Shield. All three

1943
01:43:14,867 --> 01:43:19,147
Speaker 2: of these games are into their final day with run

1944
01:43:19,227 --> 01:43:23,467
Speaker 2: chases happening at the Basement Reserve. CD are one eighty

1945
01:43:23,547 --> 01:43:27,227
Speaker 2: four for one, needing another one hundred and seventy seven

1946
01:43:27,307 --> 01:43:32,587
Speaker 2: runs to beat Wellington. Brad Schmullien is on ninety one,

1947
01:43:32,827 --> 01:43:36,507
Speaker 2: not out in the run chase. Curtis f there on

1948
01:43:36,547 --> 01:43:40,467
Speaker 2: seventy three, so ced going along very nicely. After a

1949
01:43:40,547 --> 01:43:45,787
Speaker 2: rather sporting declaration from Tom Blundell this morning, after quite

1950
01:43:45,787 --> 01:43:48,147
Speaker 2: a bit of this game's been washed out, so CD

1951
01:43:48,227 --> 01:43:50,027
Speaker 2: one eighty four for one, with another one hundred and

1952
01:43:50,067 --> 01:43:53,987
Speaker 2: seventy seven needed. Otago need a further two hundred and

1953
01:43:54,067 --> 01:43:57,227
Speaker 2: nineteen runs to beat Canterbury. They are one sixty four

1954
01:43:57,267 --> 01:44:00,547
Speaker 2: for six, one sixty four for six at the University

1955
01:44:00,587 --> 01:44:03,667
Speaker 2: of Otago Oval in Dunedin, so Canterbury looked to have

1956
01:44:03,707 --> 01:44:06,227
Speaker 2: the upper hand there and in the third of the match,

1957
01:44:06,427 --> 01:44:09,187
Speaker 2: which is taking place at Bay Oval in Mount Monganui.

1958
01:44:10,227 --> 01:44:15,587
Speaker 2: This is quite an incredible scorecard. Northern Districts two hundred

1959
01:44:15,627 --> 01:44:19,187
Speaker 2: and seventy two without loss, two hundred and seventy two

1960
01:44:19,187 --> 01:44:22,107
Speaker 2: without loss. They need another two hundred and thirty eight,

1961
01:44:22,667 --> 01:44:24,627
Speaker 2: so they got to get over five hundred to win

1962
01:44:24,667 --> 01:44:27,347
Speaker 2: the game. But Jet revals one hundred and twenty nine

1963
01:44:27,387 --> 01:44:29,547
Speaker 2: not out and Henry Cooper one hundred and twenty five

1964
01:44:29,627 --> 01:44:32,947
Speaker 2: not out two hundred and they've just lost a wicket

1965
01:44:32,987 --> 01:44:34,667
Speaker 2: just as I came across. We'll bring you news of

1966
01:44:34,667 --> 01:44:37,987
Speaker 2: that in a sec. But yeah, those run chases are

1967
01:44:37,987 --> 01:44:42,387
Speaker 2: ongoing around the country. Well are we two twenty eight.

1968
01:44:42,467 --> 01:44:44,987
Speaker 2: Let's take a break, come back and we'll talk some golf.

1969
01:44:45,067 --> 01:44:47,907
Speaker 2: The one of the biggest amateur tournament, one of the

1970
01:44:47,907 --> 01:44:50,507
Speaker 2: biggest women's amateur tournaments in the world, is coming to

1971
01:44:50,547 --> 01:44:53,667
Speaker 2: the Royal Wellington Golf Club in February. We'll find out

1972
01:44:53,667 --> 01:44:56,427
Speaker 2: more in just a moment to the Voice.

1973
01:44:56,147 --> 01:44:59,627
Speaker 1: Of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend Sport with

1974
01:44:59,827 --> 01:45:03,587
Speaker 1: Jason Vane and GJ. Gunner homes New Zealand's most trusted

1975
01:45:03,627 --> 01:45:05,067
Speaker 1: no builder News Talks.

1976
01:45:04,787 --> 01:45:07,747
Speaker 2: Ev one on news Talks hereb I forge it will

1977
01:45:07,747 --> 01:45:10,547
Speaker 2: play a sporting chance before three or chance to win

1978
01:45:10,587 --> 01:45:13,147
Speaker 2: a one hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet from the

1979
01:45:13,227 --> 01:45:15,627
Speaker 2: tab or you win that and then you place it

1980
01:45:15,707 --> 01:45:18,107
Speaker 2: on one of three options we give you and if

1981
01:45:18,227 --> 01:45:21,427
Speaker 2: the option you choose happens, you collect the Winning's pretty

1982
01:45:21,427 --> 01:45:23,947
Speaker 2: easy concept a sporting chance. In the next little while,

1983
01:45:24,307 --> 01:45:27,307
Speaker 2: Royal Wellington Golf Club will host the eighth edition of

1984
01:45:27,347 --> 01:45:31,547
Speaker 2: the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Golf Championship from February twelve

1985
01:45:31,627 --> 01:45:34,747
Speaker 2: to fifteen next year, bringing together the region's elite women

1986
01:45:34,867 --> 01:45:40,387
Speaker 2: amateur golfers competing for starts in three major championships. Developed

1987
01:45:40,387 --> 01:45:44,627
Speaker 2: by the RNA and Asia Pacific Golf Confederation, the prestigious

1988
01:45:44,707 --> 01:45:48,867
Speaker 2: championship provides a pathway to the international stage. The champion

1989
01:45:49,027 --> 01:45:53,507
Speaker 2: earns life changing opportunities to play in the AIG Women's Open,

1990
01:45:53,747 --> 01:45:59,107
Speaker 2: the Amundi Evion Championship and the Chevron Championship. Previous Women's

1991
01:45:59,147 --> 01:46:02,187
Speaker 2: Amateur Asia Pacific participants have also gone on to win

1992
01:46:02,627 --> 01:46:07,787
Speaker 2: five major Championships in just the last eight years. Beyond

1993
01:46:07,827 --> 01:46:11,787
Speaker 2: the elite competition, the Championship continues its vision to support

1994
01:46:11,787 --> 01:46:15,267
Speaker 2: the development of world class players in countries throughout the

1995
01:46:15,307 --> 01:46:19,827
Speaker 2: region via the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Academy. This was

1996
01:46:19,867 --> 01:46:23,067
Speaker 2: launched this year. It provides players from emerging golfing nations

1997
01:46:23,347 --> 01:46:27,707
Speaker 2: with access to world class coaching opportunities more regularly available

1998
01:46:27,747 --> 01:46:31,667
Speaker 2: to players from larger golfing nations. The second Academy has

1999
01:46:31,707 --> 01:46:34,667
Speaker 2: taken place at Royal Wellington this week and has focused

2000
01:46:34,667 --> 01:46:40,467
Speaker 2: on the Pacific Islands region. Invited players from American Samoa, Fiji, Guam, Papua,

2001
01:46:40,507 --> 01:46:43,747
Speaker 2: New Guinea, Samoa, Solomon Islands and Tonga and there's a

2002
01:46:43,787 --> 01:46:47,787
Speaker 2: New Zealand contingent as well. Let's bring in Nick Shan,

2003
01:46:48,027 --> 01:46:51,507
Speaker 2: Assistant Director Asia Pacific at the R and A. Can

2004
01:46:51,547 --> 01:46:55,427
Speaker 2: we start with the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Academy. Nick,

2005
01:46:55,467 --> 01:46:57,507
Speaker 2: what of these players who have come from all over

2006
01:46:57,547 --> 01:47:00,787
Speaker 2: the Pacific experienced in the past week or so?

2007
01:47:01,827 --> 01:47:06,547
Speaker 31: Well, Jason, They've experienced a fantastic week with experts in

2008
01:47:06,627 --> 01:47:13,307
Speaker 31: the field of sports science, track man data analysis, sports psychology,

2009
01:47:13,987 --> 01:47:17,827
Speaker 31: swing techniques, a short game and strength and conditioning. So

2010
01:47:18,627 --> 01:47:21,427
Speaker 31: in a week that they've been fortunate enough to spend

2011
01:47:21,467 --> 01:47:24,787
Speaker 31: time at roy Wellington, which is the venue for the championship.

2012
01:47:24,867 --> 01:47:28,187
Speaker 31: It's been an eye opening experience for them to firstly

2013
01:47:28,347 --> 01:47:32,267
Speaker 31: receive all of that information in a week preparing them

2014
01:47:32,307 --> 01:47:35,187
Speaker 31: to succeed during a tough championship week.

2015
01:47:35,547 --> 01:47:37,867
Speaker 2: Indeed, I mean eye opening as you say, but it

2016
01:47:37,907 --> 01:47:40,627
Speaker 2: could also be life change and could you could you

2017
01:47:40,667 --> 01:47:43,027
Speaker 2: see in some of these young players, you know, these

2018
01:47:43,547 --> 01:47:46,467
Speaker 2: these light bulbs going off with the with the amazing

2019
01:47:46,507 --> 01:47:49,147
Speaker 2: experiences that they would never I'm sure have had before.

2020
01:47:50,547 --> 01:47:54,827
Speaker 31: Yes, those experiences in terms of the exemptions into the

2021
01:47:54,827 --> 01:47:59,787
Speaker 31: major championships that Amundy, every Young Championship, that IG Women's Open,

2022
01:48:00,427 --> 01:48:04,467
Speaker 31: the year run Championship in America, these are experiences many

2023
01:48:04,507 --> 01:48:08,467
Speaker 31: can't buy, the exemptions which professionals would love to have.

2024
01:48:09,067 --> 01:48:13,067
Speaker 31: So for any budding young elite amateur, it's a fantastic

2025
01:48:13,147 --> 01:48:17,267
Speaker 31: prize which they really just dream off. So actually playing

2026
01:48:17,347 --> 01:48:20,827
Speaker 31: for a first prize, to have three exemptions into three

2027
01:48:20,867 --> 01:48:25,747
Speaker 31: of the five professional Ladies major championships is a fantastic

2028
01:48:25,747 --> 01:48:27,147
Speaker 31: goal to train and date.

2029
01:48:27,227 --> 01:48:29,067
Speaker 2: I want to talk more about the tournament in a moment,

2030
01:48:29,147 --> 01:48:31,867
Speaker 2: but in a wider sense, Nick how big a goal

2031
01:48:32,467 --> 01:48:36,187
Speaker 2: is building a long term pathway for women's golf across

2032
01:48:36,187 --> 01:48:37,547
Speaker 2: the Asia Pacific region.

2033
01:48:39,067 --> 01:48:43,307
Speaker 31: It's a tall task, chasing because Asia Pacific is a

2034
01:48:43,347 --> 01:48:49,707
Speaker 31: mathive region and trying to accommodate players from developing countries

2035
01:48:49,747 --> 01:48:55,507
Speaker 31: to gain that experience within the academy setting, gaining that

2036
01:48:55,627 --> 01:48:59,707
Speaker 31: knowledge from all of the experts. It's a long tour order,

2037
01:49:00,147 --> 01:49:02,387
Speaker 31: but we've started it and we're going to expand it

2038
01:49:02,427 --> 01:49:06,547
Speaker 31: across Asia Pacific, trying to give as many players from

2039
01:49:06,587 --> 01:49:08,387
Speaker 31: developing countries that opportunity.

2040
01:49:08,627 --> 01:49:10,747
Speaker 2: And I guess what it also does is when those

2041
01:49:10,787 --> 01:49:13,387
Speaker 2: players do go back home, they take with them some

2042
01:49:13,547 --> 01:49:15,707
Speaker 2: knowledge as well, don't they from the week they've just had.

2043
01:49:15,987 --> 01:49:17,627
Speaker 2: Is that part of it as well? That you'd expect

2044
01:49:17,707 --> 01:49:22,467
Speaker 2: them to benefit others in their countries once they get back.

2045
01:49:23,627 --> 01:49:26,787
Speaker 31: Most definitely, we want them to share that knowledge with

2046
01:49:27,387 --> 01:49:31,507
Speaker 31: either younger budding players that are developing in their country.

2047
01:49:32,147 --> 01:49:34,547
Speaker 31: And if the players who've come out of the academy

2048
01:49:34,627 --> 01:49:38,947
Speaker 31: become those players, those store wards which the younger players

2049
01:49:38,987 --> 01:49:42,347
Speaker 31: can look up to in terms of achievements or simply

2050
01:49:42,427 --> 01:49:45,587
Speaker 31: just being able to participate in the Woman's Amitas Pacific.

2051
01:49:46,107 --> 01:49:48,227
Speaker 31: That's an achievement in its own which would like to

2052
01:49:48,307 --> 01:49:51,907
Speaker 31: profile for younger players in the developing countries.

2053
01:49:52,027 --> 01:49:53,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the academy is a great part of this.

2054
01:49:53,667 --> 01:49:55,987
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the tournament now in February next year,

2055
01:49:56,147 --> 01:49:59,107
Speaker 2: very much looking forward to having this at Royal Wellington

2056
01:49:59,147 --> 01:50:03,027
Speaker 2: Golf Club, developed by the RNA and Asia Pacific Golf Confederation.

2057
01:50:03,147 --> 01:50:05,987
Speaker 2: Of course, tell us about this tournament. How big do

2058
01:50:06,027 --> 01:50:06,947
Speaker 2: you exp picked it to be?

2059
01:50:09,067 --> 01:50:13,827
Speaker 31: Well, Jason, it's the most televised female amateur tournament in

2060
01:50:13,867 --> 01:50:20,387
Speaker 31: the world. It's the only championship which has three exemptions

2061
01:50:20,427 --> 01:50:26,907
Speaker 31: into three professional major championships, and it's a very young championship.

2062
01:50:27,427 --> 01:50:28,627
Speaker 5: We've had seven editions.

2063
01:50:28,627 --> 01:50:31,067
Speaker 31: We're going to be staging the eighth at roy Wellington,

2064
01:50:31,787 --> 01:50:36,427
Speaker 31: a classic parkland layout. We were very thankful for the

2065
01:50:36,507 --> 01:50:40,747
Speaker 31: support from New Zealand Major Events and the Wellington Council

2066
01:50:40,947 --> 01:50:44,187
Speaker 31: as well as Golf New Zealand and we look forward

2067
01:50:44,227 --> 01:50:48,067
Speaker 31: to staging a special event during that week in February.

2068
01:50:48,147 --> 01:50:50,347
Speaker 2: Will you have to make many adjustments to the course.

2069
01:50:50,747 --> 01:50:53,947
Speaker 2: Are there are there alterations that are needed or is

2070
01:50:53,947 --> 01:50:56,027
Speaker 2: the course pretty much good to go as it is.

2071
01:50:57,747 --> 01:51:01,827
Speaker 31: It's really good to go as it is. It's been

2072
01:51:01,987 --> 01:51:05,907
Speaker 31: well kept and maintained by John Sprague's Sam and his team,

2073
01:51:06,587 --> 01:51:12,347
Speaker 31: overseen by their committee. It's just a parkland layout. We'll

2074
01:51:12,387 --> 01:51:15,387
Speaker 31: have the greens running at its probably about ten on

2075
01:51:15,427 --> 01:51:17,867
Speaker 31: the stump meter, and at that time of the year

2076
01:51:18,107 --> 01:51:20,907
Speaker 31: it will already be a test for all the players.

2077
01:51:20,987 --> 01:51:23,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll look at some I know roy Wellington it's

2078
01:51:23,787 --> 01:51:26,787
Speaker 2: a terrific place to spend a day playing golf, let

2079
01:51:26,827 --> 01:51:29,467
Speaker 2: alone watching some of the top amateurs from around the world.

2080
01:51:29,547 --> 01:51:32,547
Speaker 2: So I'll say here, I mean you've got ambitious targets

2081
01:51:32,547 --> 01:51:35,707
Speaker 2: for attendants, hoping to get ten thousand through the gates

2082
01:51:35,707 --> 01:51:36,627
Speaker 2: across the four days.

2083
01:51:37,867 --> 01:51:41,547
Speaker 31: Yes, we're going to have a Royal Village supported by

2084
01:51:41,867 --> 01:51:44,907
Speaker 31: roy Wellington Golf, New Zealand. There's going to be a

2085
01:51:44,907 --> 01:51:46,667
Speaker 31: lot of fun games and.

2086
01:51:46,667 --> 01:51:49,147
Speaker 5: Activities as well as food trucks.

2087
01:51:49,187 --> 01:51:54,467
Speaker 31: So we welcome golfers, nine golfers, juniors, adults to come.

2088
01:51:55,547 --> 01:51:59,467
Speaker 31: There will be sessions getting people who don't know golf

2089
01:52:00,787 --> 01:52:03,227
Speaker 31: putting a club in their hand and really getting them

2090
01:52:03,227 --> 01:52:07,547
Speaker 31: excited about trying the sport out. Everybody's most welcome to

2091
01:52:07,587 --> 01:52:11,347
Speaker 31: come to Royal Wellington into Upper Hut during those during

2092
01:52:11,387 --> 01:52:13,547
Speaker 31: that championship week, I know you'll.

2093
01:52:13,427 --> 01:52:16,627
Speaker 2: Get a lot of interest in that. February twelve through fifteen,

2094
01:52:16,747 --> 01:52:20,907
Speaker 2: the eighth edition of the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship. Nick,

2095
01:52:20,947 --> 01:52:23,067
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us with an update. Look forward to

2096
01:52:23,307 --> 01:52:25,227
Speaker 2: catching up again when the new year rolls around.

2097
01:52:25,387 --> 01:52:25,987
Speaker 5: Appreciate it.

2098
01:52:25,987 --> 01:52:27,987
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jason, No, thank you Nick. Nick Shan their

2099
01:52:27,987 --> 01:52:31,187
Speaker 2: assistant director Asia Pacific at the RNA. For those in

2100
01:52:31,187 --> 01:52:34,587
Speaker 2: the Wellington region, that's a four day period to put

2101
01:52:34,627 --> 01:52:36,947
Speaker 2: a ring around for the golf fans. Twelve to fifteen

2102
01:52:37,027 --> 01:52:41,067
Speaker 2: February next year, the Royal Wellington Golf Club hosting the

2103
01:52:41,107 --> 01:52:45,147
Speaker 2: eighth edition of the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship. Just

2104
01:52:45,227 --> 01:52:49,667
Speaker 2: updating you from the Australian PGA Championship. Kazumi Kabori is

2105
01:52:49,707 --> 01:52:54,027
Speaker 2: now joint leader. Anthony Quayle has moved to twelve under.

2106
01:52:54,187 --> 01:52:56,307
Speaker 2: He is three under today through six holes. I've just

2107
01:52:56,307 --> 01:52:59,227
Speaker 2: had sent three to me on text that Steve Williams

2108
01:52:59,267 --> 01:53:02,627
Speaker 2: is on Anthony Quayle's bag. So it's a really handy caddy,

2109
01:53:02,907 --> 01:53:04,987
Speaker 2: isn't it. Kazumikabori is still in the share of the lead.

2110
01:53:05,307 --> 01:53:07,547
Speaker 2: He is two under three six holes and twelve under

2111
01:53:07,587 --> 01:53:10,427
Speaker 2: for the tournament. Daniel Hilly remains at nine under the

2112
01:53:10,427 --> 01:53:14,747
Speaker 2: card two under today through six holes as well. Time

2113
01:53:14,827 --> 01:53:17,707
Speaker 2: to play a sporting chance with the tab. I'm going

2114
01:53:17,747 --> 01:53:20,547
Speaker 2: to offer you the choice of three bets short, evens

2115
01:53:20,627 --> 01:53:23,227
Speaker 2: or long. You decide which one you want, and we

2116
01:53:23,267 --> 01:53:25,827
Speaker 2: will place a one hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet

2117
01:53:26,147 --> 01:53:29,027
Speaker 2: on your behalf if it comes home. The winnings minus

2118
01:53:29,067 --> 01:53:32,227
Speaker 2: the initial one fifty are all yours. Pretty simple. You

2119
01:53:32,307 --> 01:53:34,387
Speaker 2: must be over eighteen. If you are and would like

2120
01:53:34,427 --> 01:53:37,307
Speaker 2: to play, call now Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

2121
01:53:38,427 --> 01:53:41,867
Speaker 8: The big issues on and after fields. Call Oh eight

2122
01:53:41,947 --> 01:53:43,027
Speaker 8: hundred eighty ten eighty.

2123
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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pain and GJ Gunderhomes, New Zealand's

2124
01:53:47,467 --> 01:53:52,227
Speaker 1: most trusted home. Bilder News talks ab It's time for

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Speaker 1: a sporting chance thanks to tab. Yes it is seventeen

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Speaker 1: to three. It's a pretty simple concept. Harrison's ready to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm gon give Harrison are three options short, evans and long.

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Speaker 2: He'll just choose which one he wants, will place the bet,

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Speaker 2: and if it happens, he'll collect the winnings. You understand

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Speaker 2: the concept, Harrison, Pretty easy to understand.

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Speaker 19: How good piney. I've heard it a few times. Long

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Speaker 19: time was the first time call here.

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Speaker 2: So the thing to play, mate, Let's see if you

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Speaker 2: can make if you can bat a thousand and get

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Speaker 2: a win on your first occasion of calling through. All right,

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Speaker 2: here are the three options mate. Short It's called the

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Speaker 2: fine I'll do it myself special it's Formula one Grand

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Speaker 2: Prix and cutter the sprint race max for staff. And

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Speaker 2: to have a podium finish. This is the sprint race,

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Speaker 2: not the actual Grand Prix race itself, So podium finish.

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Speaker 2: He's sixth on the grid. It's paying two twenty five.

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Speaker 2: You would win one eighty seven fifty for that. That's

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Speaker 2: your short option. The evens, the evens is hang on.

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Speaker 2: There's still rugby happening. Special. Wales against South Africa tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: Wales to lead the game at any stage during the match.

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Speaker 2: It's paying three dollars. You would win three hundred. So

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Speaker 2: Wales to lead South Africa at any stage of the game.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, and long long as just another

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Speaker 2: day at the football special Phoenix, Adelaide this afternoon, a

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Speaker 2: goalless draw as the correct score. It's paying twelve dollars.

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Speaker 2: You would win sixteen hundred and fifty so max for

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Speaker 2: Stapping to be in the top three in the sprint race,

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Speaker 2: you'd win one eighty seven to fifty Wales to lead

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Speaker 2: South Africa at any point in their test tomorrow. To

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Speaker 2: win three hundred or a nil all draw between the

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Speaker 2: Phoenix and Adelaide this afternoon, to win sixteen hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to go for?

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Speaker 19: Oh, honey, you know I'm a long time at die

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Speaker 19: heart Black Knights Sporter hair. So seeing the penex performance

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Speaker 19: in the last couple of years, especially with the Knights

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Speaker 19: and there, I'd be surprised if they can even get

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Speaker 19: a drawer at this chance. But I'll give them one

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Speaker 19: and take the long.

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Speaker 8: Mate, love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Look the Eurasia will be Adelaide.

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Speaker 2: I think they're more likely to get on the scores

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Speaker 2: seet at the moment. But look we'll place the bet

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Speaker 2: for you, mate. Looks not your money, You're playing with

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Speaker 2: house money. If it's a nil draw this afternoon, sixteen

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks come in your way.

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Speaker 14: Mate.

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Speaker 2: You can celebrate when you go and watch Auckland FC

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Speaker 2: playing Newcastle tomorrow. So mate, yeah, got on your man

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Speaker 2: hold there and you'll make sure he's got all your details.

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Speaker 2: Will place the bet and certainly keep our fingers crossed

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Speaker 2: for you. So a nil draw Phoenix Adelaide Harrison would

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Speaker 2: pick up sixteen hundred and fifty dollars. We'll place the

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Speaker 2: bet and hope it happens and we'll do it again

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Speaker 2: next week. Thanks to our mates at the tab as always,

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Speaker 2: please bet responsibly. Just on fourteen away from three, we

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Speaker 2: have reached the season finale, the final event of sal GP.

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Speaker 2: It's inn Abudbi this weekend to unpack it all for

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Speaker 2: us and let us know the Black Foils chance. It's

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Speaker 2: great to welcome and senior sports journalist specializing in a

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Speaker 2: number of sports including sailing at the New Zealand Herald,

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Speaker 2: Chris Reeve. Chris your headline this morning. Peter Berlin cleared

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Speaker 2: to return for the Black Foils after his finger injury.

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Speaker 2: Was he ever in serious doubt for the final regatta

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Speaker 2: of the season. Yeah, it's a good question.

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Speaker 32: I don't think so. I think the way he was

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Speaker 32: talking about it just being a cut, I mean that

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Speaker 32: the bandage he had on it was pretty thick. I

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Speaker 32: think that's where a lot of the sort of doubt

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Speaker 32: came in, you know just how serious it was, but

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Speaker 32: he sounded pretty confident that he'd get back on the boat,

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Speaker 32: and yeah, that's been the case.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. So I love Mackay. I think was standing by.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't she to take his place if he hadn't been

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Speaker 2: able to get there? I mean, I know we're speaking

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Speaker 2: hypothetically here, but how much of a blow would it

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Speaker 2: have been to have been without Peter Burling?

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Speaker 32: I mean, lives prepared for that role. Pete said it

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Speaker 32: during the week that you know they have prepared for

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Speaker 32: that situation. And in the case of a final though,

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Speaker 32: it is a little bit more pressure, isn't it. Abu

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Speaker 32: Dhabi's not really known for high winds, so that probably

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Speaker 32: would have worked in their favor, but it still would

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Speaker 32: have been not the ideal way to go into sort

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Speaker 32: of the biggest event of the year.

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Speaker 2: All's well, that ends well as far as his participation

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Speaker 2: is concerned. So tell us the format for the weekend,

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Speaker 2: because there's a one race shootout for the two million

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Speaker 2: dollar US prize, but there is still fleet racing first,

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 32: So this is season five and I still haven't figured

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Speaker 32: out the most succinct way to explain the final event

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Speaker 32: of the Sales GP season. So normally they would have

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Speaker 32: five to seven fleet races and then at the end

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Speaker 32: of the event would have sort of the best three

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Speaker 32: teams from the event going and compete for the title.

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Speaker 32: But because this one ends with the Grand Final with

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Speaker 32: the three best teams over the season, they just kind

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Speaker 32: of end the main regatta part itself after the fleet racing,

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Speaker 32: so they award an Abu Dhabi Regatta winner. They that

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Speaker 32: team gets sort of the same prize money that you

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Speaker 32: get from any other normal regatta, and then they just

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Speaker 32: finish it off with the best three teams from throughout

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Speaker 32: the season competing for the two million US.

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Speaker 2: I think you found a fairly succinct way of summarizing

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Speaker 2: an I don't know, I don't know, I understand what

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Speaker 2: you're talking about. So in that regard, then the Black

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Speaker 2: foils on the overall season table. Is there any danger

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Speaker 2: they will miss the three boat Grand Final?

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Speaker 32: Yeah, there is a chance. I don't think they will

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Speaker 32: because they're very good in the light winds and have

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Speaker 32: been very good in the Middle East over the last

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Speaker 32: few years. They need to finish sixth or better through

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Speaker 32: fleet racing to basically take the chance of missing out

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Speaker 32: out of the picture. So Spain currently fourth there I think,

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Speaker 32: four points outside the top three and six points behind

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Speaker 32: the Black Foils, I believe, so like a lot would

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Speaker 32: have to go right for Spain to beat either Australia,

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Speaker 32: New Zealand or Great Britain out of a spot in

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Speaker 32: that top three. But hey, stranger things have happened, Like

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Speaker 32: I didn't expect Spain to win it last year, but

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Speaker 32: that happens.

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Speaker 2: Yea, they never and the one ray shootout. It's just

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Speaker 2: absolute jeopardy, isn't it, Because having the Black Foils been

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Speaker 2: in the final the line last two years without winning one,

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Speaker 2: yep they have.

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Speaker 32: Indeed, this is the first year that the Grand Final

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Speaker 32: hasn't been contested in San Francisco, which is a huge

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Speaker 32: difference because the conditions are just completely different. So, like

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Speaker 32: I said, Abu Dhabi is not known for having sort

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Speaker 32: of high winds during racing, whereas San Francisco can be

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Speaker 32: very puffy. You can get high patches, low patches and

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Speaker 32: everything in between. So that makes the strategists role and

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Speaker 32: I guess the driver's decisions a lot more.

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Speaker 2: I guess on the minute.

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Speaker 32: Whereas with the light wind venues it's sort of a

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Speaker 32: lot more wiggle room I mean that we've seen in

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Speaker 32: the past. So yeah, it'll be a very interesting final,

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Speaker 32: very interesting final.

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Speaker 2: And it's just like one and done, right, I mean

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Speaker 2: we're used to these regattas and we've been to watch

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Speaker 2: sal GP and Auckland and all these regattas around the world,

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Speaker 2: and there's all the fleet races before the final, but

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Speaker 2: this is just like one and done. For all of

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Speaker 2: that money and all of that glory.

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Speaker 32: Yeah, you can't make a mistake, really can you. You

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Speaker 32: can be the best team all season like the Blackfoils

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Speaker 32: were last year, and get one or two things wrong

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Speaker 32: in that one race and watch it all slip away

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Speaker 32: from you. So it's all about being perfect on the day.

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Speaker 32: Let's hope that they are exactly that. Chris, thanks for

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Speaker 32: your for your update, your succinct analysis, Mate, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll look forward to reading your reports in the inn

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Speaker 2: Zed Herald. Always a pleasure, mate, got on your mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Chris Reef joining us in studio read him at

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Speaker 2: inzherld dot co dot NZ. As we reach the final

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Speaker 2: event of the sale GP season in Abu Dhabi. This

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Speaker 2: weekend nighte Away from three, News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

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Speaker 1: on Weekends Sports with Jason Hine, News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B six to three. That's pretty much us for today.

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Speaker 2: Just quick look ahead tomorrow, great line up, A guess

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Speaker 2: for you. Rob Walter, Blackcaps coach, can lead us off

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Speaker 2: after midday tomorrow as we talk Test cricket, West Indies

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Speaker 2: and black Caps going at each other for three Test

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Speaker 2: match in December. We'll talk about that and Michael Campbell

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Speaker 2: is our guest after one o'clock and extended chat. Twenty

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Speaker 2: years after he became a US Open champion. There's a

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Speaker 2: documentary on Sky which premiere is tomorrow night, all about

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Speaker 2: that and about Michael Campbell. It's called Dare to Be Different.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to chatting to Michael Campbell tomorrow after one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening in. Huge thanks to Annie McDonald for

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Speaker 2: producing an exit song today. If you would, Yeah, Piney,

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Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't really be doing this, but he runs

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Speaker 2: like jump the gun a little bit the Christmas trees

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Speaker 2: up outside of work. But at the same time, this

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Speaker 2: song is actually a song that I think transcends just

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Speaker 2: being Christmas. I think it's just objectively a fantastic, fantastic song.

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Speaker 2: So I've gone with the fairy Tale of New York

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Speaker 2: to finish us off today. I'll allow it. The Poke's

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Speaker 2: coming to New Zealand soon, I understand. I didn't even

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Speaker 2: know that there we go. There that's linked back to

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Speaker 2: being something topical. Not the original lineup, of course, but

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Speaker 2: they are coming anyway. See tomorrow, folks.

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Speaker 8: Churn make it up about.

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Speaker 12: My dreams around.

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Speaker 33: Say and my Bady Christmas wait by and the mountains

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Speaker 33: are riding out.

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Speaker 8: For Christmas Time.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live

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