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Speaker 1: Afternoon. AI could be marking school assessments once n c

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Speaker 1: A is completely scrapped. It's actually already being used to

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Speaker 1: mark n c A co requisite exams. Chris Abercrombie is

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Speaker 1: the president of the Post Primary Teachers Association and with.

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Speaker 2: Us right now. Hey, Chris good a, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Thank yous?

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Speaker 1: This's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: What was already been used in say in some aspects

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Speaker 2: nowt of the COREX. I'm not one hundred think convinced

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Speaker 2: AI is there yet to do all of the work,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's we're using it right now and it

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Speaker 2: seems to be successful.

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Speaker 1: What do you think it can't do.

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Speaker 2: Well? I mean, I've marked n c A exams. I've

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Speaker 2: done that in my time, and I just sort of

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Speaker 2: seeing how the students right understanding, you know, reading between

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Speaker 2: the lines, trying to you know, sometimes you have to

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Speaker 2: figure out what the student's trying to say. And I

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Speaker 2: just don't know if AI is quite the yet to

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Speaker 2: be able to do those kind of things.

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Speaker 1: In the case where it is more simple and it's

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Speaker 1: like let's say, mathematics, i'd imagine would be much easier

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Speaker 1: where the ANSWER's got to be twenty six and there's

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Speaker 1: nothing else it can be. Apparently it's as good, if

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Speaker 1: not better than humans.

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Speaker 2: Have you found that? So again, we'll just going on

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Speaker 2: what enz QA said about doing the core exit. They've

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Speaker 2: been really happy with the success rate of it, and

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Speaker 2: they've been using human markers to check basically check their

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Speaker 2: I marking in the introm and they've been really happy

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Speaker 2: with the success of it. So I think there's definitely

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Speaker 2: some applications for it, but I just don't think it's

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Speaker 2: there yet for everything.

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Speaker 1: Is it the case that teachers will lose money because

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Speaker 1: they get paid for marking externals at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Yes, so at the moment. So if a teacher applies

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Speaker 2: to be a marker, they get paid to do that

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year for the end of

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Speaker 2: year exams. So if they are taken away, then yet

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Speaker 2: there will be teachers will be losing money for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any outcry about that just yet.

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Speaker 2: I haven't had any feedback from any of our members

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Speaker 2: yet about that, but we'll be interesting to see as

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Speaker 2: the years go on and we get close and close

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Speaker 2: at that time if that's something that's a concern.

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Speaker 1: Christ do you know what is surprising me is basically,

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Speaker 1: how well everything that Erica Stanford has done to this point,

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Speaker 1: everything has gone down with people. How is it because

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Speaker 1: generally unions will give a National education minister a really

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Speaker 1: hard time. Why is that not happening this time?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's never about the party, it's about the policy.

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Speaker 2: And if you've got policy that listens to the sector

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Speaker 2: and then we're going to get behind it. There's some

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Speaker 2: concerns about some of this policy about implementation. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be its two years time frame. It's pretty tight,

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Speaker 2: so it's going to have to be really on point

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Speaker 2: and well resourced about to get there. But there's general

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Speaker 2: consensus that some changes need to be made to NCAA.

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Speaker 2: We're already on that progress, particularly around coherence of subject

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Speaker 2: balance between internals externals, and so this meets some of

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Speaker 2: those goals.

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Speaker 1: So you guys feel listened to by her.

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Speaker 2: Definitely at the moment. We do in this aspect and

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Speaker 2: a lot of it, so hopefully that continues.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Hey, Thanks Chris, Chris ab Abercrombie, PBTA President.

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