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Speaker 1: Potans still living, Zelensky on red Or saying still no

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Speaker 1: replies Zelensky and Turkey basically waiting for him to turn up.

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Speaker 1: He now says he won't meet with anyone but Putin.

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Speaker 1: BABC senior Russia reporter Olga if Shina is with us

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Speaker 1: this morning, thank you for being with me. Do you

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Speaker 1: think it's likely Poten will turn up in the flesh.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the biggest question now right And if I knew,

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Speaker 2: if anyone could read Putin's mind or probably that person

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Speaker 2: would be one of the most inferential and important people

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Speaker 2: in the world right now. So the trouble with Puttin

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Speaker 2: is he follows his own logic, which we have seen

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Speaker 2: precisely in the past three ten years. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: quite unpredictable. Russian Russian officials are keeping the pause of

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Speaker 2: not not releasing much information. There is an interesting sign

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Speaker 2: that today Brazilian president made a stopover in Moscow and

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Speaker 2: didn't meet with Putin, but it's probably too far to

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Speaker 2: say that there is a sign of possibly him put

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Speaker 2: In preparing for something big, but it's it's it's still.

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Speaker 1: Olga. We've lost you. No, I think we've lost Olga. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: it just gone nine minutes away from six. Olga, are

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Speaker 1: you there, No, we've lost it. We'll have to leave

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Speaker 1: it there. Unfortunately, it was interesting what she had to

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Speaker 1: say anyway. So the problem, I mean, what he will

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Speaker 1: be weighing up, what the Kremlin will be weighing up,

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Speaker 1: is how does it look to the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world if I don't turn up? How does it look

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Speaker 1: to America in particular, if I don't turn up, does

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Speaker 1: that make it look like I'm not keen on a deal?

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Speaker 1: You know? These are the calculations the Kremlin will be making.

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Speaker 1: Olga's back with us. I think, Olga, that'll be what

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Speaker 1: presumably what the Kremlin's weighing up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, in a way, krimlinly is enjoying this tension, as

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Speaker 2: was exactly their strategy for many years now, to keep

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Speaker 2: the attension as much as possible in order to try

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Speaker 2: to provoke cares, provoke confrontation, provoke doubts and discussions within

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Speaker 2: the allies in Europe, in the United States, between Ukraine

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Speaker 2: and the United States, for example. So the tension is

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Speaker 2: actually favorable to Moscow, so we have to wait until

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Speaker 2: tomorrow to get the answers. But Kremlin is enjoying that

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Speaker 2: tension and possible disruptions which it may bring.

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Speaker 1: Algert really appreciate your time. Thank you with the dodgy

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Speaker 1: line for us At BBC. Senior Russia reporter Olga if

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Speaker 1: Shina on with Putin will turn up in the Flesh.

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