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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers. The mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Veda Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News,

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Speaker 2: B having welcome today new rules to make building cheaper

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Speaker 2: and other of these policies and helped that gives free

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Speaker 2: access based on race. Let's Goot Robertson with a word

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Speaker 2: on the plane for the big game in South Africa.

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Speaker 2: Tim and k to the week being a Priday Richard

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Speaker 2: Arnold Steve Prize. They provide elevated international coverage for Posky.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day, seven past six. Now the process

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Speaker 2: isn't over, but the hawks Bay District Council was the

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Speaker 2: latest yesterday to confirm a decision that they've made earlier

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Speaker 2: to introduce a Mari seat to their operation. Now under

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Speaker 2: this new law, if you've missed it passed by Wellington

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Speaker 2: the central Government. If you've done that, in other words,

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Speaker 2: introduced a new Maory seat, you either have to drop

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Speaker 2: that seat at next year's local body election or take

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Speaker 2: it to a vote. They have voted to take it

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Speaker 2: to a vote. A lot of councils have done the

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Speaker 2: same thing. I think in totality that's probably the right

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Speaker 2: thing to do. It's a good thing to do. Having

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Speaker 2: race based seats, of course is wrong, but at the

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Speaker 2: very least you have to give your constituents a say,

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Speaker 2: which has been the crime quite rightly identified and corrected

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Speaker 2: by the government. Part of the argument put Forden hawks Bay,

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Speaker 2: as I'm sure it has been in various council meetings

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The trouble with that is it simply isn't true. It

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Speaker 2: never has been. And in that misrepresentation of the facts

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Speaker 2: is the beauty of democracy. Democracy is alive and well

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Speaker 2: in this country. It's just sadly one of those things

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Speaker 2: that we take for granted part of the democratic process.

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Speaker 2: As anyone can stand, anyone can have their voices heard.

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Speaker 2: Far from being under threat, they're not the fascinating. But now,

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Speaker 2: once all the decisions on elections are made, is how

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Speaker 2: many votes for seats will there be and will anyone

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Speaker 4: Know?

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Speaker 2: What's that told us about the entire Murray seat exercise.

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Speaker 2: Could it be in certain areas though maybe Northland, Gisbon,

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Speaker 2: possibly Hawks Bay, that a campaign can be successfully run

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Speaker 2: to get enough numbers over the line. And if that happens,

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Speaker 2: does that spur others on? Could it be the democratic

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Speaker 2: exercise of actually voting leads to a growth the number

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Speaker 2: of Maori seats. Imagine that success by election, growth by democracy,

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Speaker 2: a voice heard enacted upon in a positive way. Surely

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Speaker 2: the prospect of that potential is far more satisfying and

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Speaker 2: satisfactory legally than the jury matted mess we haven till now.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Right to the States where lawyers are flat out all

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Speaker 2: over the place. Trump has played not guilty to the

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Speaker 2: rew Gen six case.

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Speaker 5: Jack Smith has done enough prooning of that indictment that

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Speaker 5: it will get over that hurdle that I call the

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Speaker 5: immunity hurdle. So that could take time in terms of filings,

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Speaker 5: oral argument, and a decision by Judge Chunkin.

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Speaker 2: Now while A's briefs handled that he's in New York

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Speaker 6: Unbelievably, she will seek a tax on unrealized capital games.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't even know.

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Speaker 7: What that means.

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Speaker 2: What does it mean?

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Speaker 6: And it is time to send Comrade Kamala Harris back

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Speaker 6: home to California.

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Speaker 2: Also in court, Hunter Biden, who's changed his play on

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Speaker 2: the cal on your text case he's decided he's guilty.

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Speaker 8: At the moment, we simply do not know what kind

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Speaker 8: of sentence he might face. The potential, of course for

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Speaker 8: up to seventeen years. We can probably safely assume it

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Speaker 9: If indeed there is any prison.

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Speaker 2: Time, then in France we've got a couple of things

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Speaker 2: blow me down. If we don't have an UPM.

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Speaker 10: It's a set of hands and that thing to be

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Speaker 10: needed into the current police constitution in France, where he

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Speaker 10: will have to face a fragmented parliament, a divided country.

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Speaker 9: So the challenge ahead of him is.

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Speaker 11: Act really huge.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Michael Bannier, we speak of you know the name

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Speaker 2: more shortly, and the debate about the Olympic rings on

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Speaker 3: I think it's okay for now, but not forever. It's

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Speaker 12: So for me, the town well is amazing, you know,

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Speaker 12: is so beautiful, but with the ring look a little

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Speaker 11: Esthetic, you know.

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Speaker 2: And in Brittany, in question of the death of Steve Diamond.

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Speaker 2: Now Diamond was on the Jeremy Kyle Show got monstered

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Speaker 2: diet you afterwards. This is unheed footage.

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Speaker 13: Just see her away. You failed every single question.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was never on faith. Failed their

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Speaker 2: request meant they did a light detective test. Finally, here's

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Speaker 2: a move. Nicholas Madeiro of Venezuela fame. He's under a

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Speaker 2: little bit of pressure, has been reported on this program

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Speaker 2: several times, given his stack the election back in July,

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Speaker 2: and has been facing protests and international condemnation ever since.

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Speaker 2: So he stand up on television and says, it's September

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Speaker 2: and it already smells like Christmas, which is why this

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Speaker 2: and in gratitude to you all, I'm going to decreate

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Speaker 2: early Christmas for October first. Mostly just means the decorations

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Speaker 2: and a couple of parties come. Here's the world in

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Speaker 2: ninety second. Yeah, Bane is interesting. He's a conservative, of

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Speaker 2: the course, He's got to face a no confidence vote

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Speaker 2: that's going to go. He's also been given a very

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Speaker 2: short period of time by Mac Ron to put together

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Speaker 2: the government. So good luck with that and we follow

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Speaker 2: with interest. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: And while Barney tries to piece together front the New

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party, the NDP have pulled the plug on Trudeau

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Speaker 2: in Canada. I'll work you through it. Actually it's a

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Speaker 2: very MMP type arrangement, but anyway, it's all falling apart

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Speaker 2: for him. Fifteen past six, Jay am I well handra

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Speaker 2: kelliher morning, Very good morning, Mylenstein Glassons. Who doesn't love

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Speaker 2: a good news retail story in these dark and dismal times?

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Speaker 13: I reckon, I reckon I couldn't go past this.

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Speaker 14: What looks on the face of it to be a

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Speaker 14: positive result announcement. So well done, Helen Stein Glassons. As

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Speaker 11: And the other thing I like about this.

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Speaker 14: So this is for the full year for the twelve

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Speaker 11: All sounds pretty good. Now. They didn't go into a.

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Speaker 2: Well done, very good. Indeed, I'm glad you raised this

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Speaker 2: again because this debate between the Reserve Bank and the government,

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Speaker 2: The government's meeting in Australia is allegedly driving inflation and

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Speaker 2: this is the standoff. And so she Michelle Bullock was

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Speaker 11: Yes Michelle.

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Speaker 14: RBA Governor Michelle Bullock gave him on the record speech

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Speaker 14: It started from none other than Treasurer Jim Chalmers, who

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Speaker 14: So it was a fairly she took her fairly sort

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Speaker 14: But yeah, it's been a big week for those guys

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Speaker 2: I like the cut of her jib. Now the number

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Speaker 13: No, they're not.

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Speaker 14: So the reason they're not is so last night we

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Speaker 14: National Employment Report. Ninety nine thousand jobs were added to them. Now,

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Speaker 14: so very mixed outcomes. And we're actually seeing exactly that

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Speaker 11: So yep, no clear picture.

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Speaker 2: What are the rest of the numbers?

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Speaker 2: Good we call it six Yesterday. I go to the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Canada is interesting, almost as interesting as the vote.

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Speaker 2: They had a new way this week. And it's not

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Speaker 11: I'll say, is just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Just give us ten seconds?

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Speaker 12: Wha, wha what?

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Speaker 9: Just give us?

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Speaker 11: He can't he can't be quiet, can he?

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Speaker 1: I don't have to be my name's on the show.

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Speaker 11: When you finish this, sow do you do? You go

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Speaker 1: I'm not a comedian.

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Speaker 13: That's what comedians do, very good when they're in front

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Speaker 13: Yeah, because they're losers.

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Speaker 11: Oh our securities.

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Speaker 2: At the door, he said he'd never be back. Not

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Speaker 2: surprisingly by the way, Mike. In nineteen eighty nine, I

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Speaker 2: Murray were able to stand for councils just like I was.

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Speaker 2: the four councilors were Maray or part Marray. Their voices

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Speaker 2: Which is my entire point. This idea that somehow, and

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, the deadline is today for those councils

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Speaker 2: So we'll have a look at that. Scott Robinson's going

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Speaker 2: I've seen politicians Richard Idol on the races in a

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Speaker 2: good morning, Mike, do you have the numbers in front

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Speaker 3: You we've got two that have decided that they're going

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Speaker 2: Okay, And as far as councils making that decision that

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Speaker 3: I think everyone's made that decision. I haven't rung them

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Speaker 2: And is that ratio surprised you or not?

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Speaker 3: No, I think councils have seen the value of have

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Speaker 3: it's important that we have, you know, that partnership in place.

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Speaker 2: And what about the legal angle that some people were

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Speaker 2: Did anybody actually do that or was that just a threat?

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Speaker 3: Now there's individual decisions that each council is going to make,

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Speaker 2: Do you see any council running a vote that's successful

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that councils have shown that melding in

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Speaker 3: So I think communities have seen that, and yeah, I

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Speaker 7: When we come to the polls.

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Speaker 2: That'll be fast. Do you think you have to sell

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Speaker 2: If you're right and votes are held and those votes

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Speaker 2: what does that then say about the jury manded system

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we've always enabled Maori voices around the

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Sam Broughton, who's the Local Government

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Speaker 2: New Zealand president, our research department seems to think that

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Speaker 2: they will scrape through. Nineteen away from seven. Germany's probably

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Speaker 2: been the most fascinating country of the week in the

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Speaker 2: sense that the elections last weekend and the region Saxony

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Speaker 2: being one of them, the success of the AfD. They

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Speaker 2: won the election. They probably won't run anything because no

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Speaker 2: one wants to work with them. But there's a very

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Speaker 2: good piece I'll come back to by Oliver Hartwich from

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand Initiative later on. But I note overnight

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Speaker 2: and this gives you an indication of the pressure that

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Speaker 2: has been placed on the coalition. The coalition, broadly speaking

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Speaker 2: three party coalition is broadly speaking left leaning. They buger

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Speaker 2: the economy Germany is not what it was and now,

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Speaker 2: surprise of surprises, they want to send EU migrants to

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Speaker 2: Rwanda and use the facilities left empty by Starmer pulling out.

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Speaker 2: So the UK were going to do the Ruanda thing.

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Speaker 2: As soon as Labor got to government in the UK

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Speaker 2: they said, we're not doing that. Germany goes actually, now

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Speaker 2: that we're under a bit of pressure, we might look

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Speaker 2: at it. Eighteen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: The beam scooter thing continues to unfold. Scandal we got

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Speaker 2: at in Auckland. What was it a week, two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: whatever it was, anyway, they had more scooters on, they

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Speaker 2: were clipping the ticket. The whole thing was a bust

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Speaker 2: and they canceled their license. It's now overnight been revealed

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Speaker 2: that they've been canceled in Brisbane, Canberra and Townsville as well,

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Speaker 2: more scooters than the license allowed some cases, allegedly avoiding

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Speaker 2: a clip of the ticket by the councils and the

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Speaker 2: revenue sharing deals. Why in this electronic age you would

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Speaker 2: behave that way is beyond me. But nevertheless they're the

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Speaker 2: They're the ones has been paying six forty.

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Speaker 1: Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Sired Richard Arnold. Happy Friday campaign trailed updatus.

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Speaker 17: Well, it's decades ago, of course when Clinton A. James

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Speaker 17: Carvill coined the phrase it's the economy stupid. When talking

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Speaker 17: about presidential politics here, not much has change. Money is

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Speaker 17: the topic of this day, and Trump just announced that

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Speaker 17: if he gets back in he will name Elon Musk

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Speaker 17: as an economic czar to review the entire government everything.

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Speaker 17: Elon Musk, which is man in the world, is head

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Speaker 17: of a government efficiency commission to take a look at

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Speaker 17: everything the government does, says Trump.

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Speaker 13: Of that idea, create a.

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Speaker 6: Government efficiency Commission task with conducting a complete financial and

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Speaker 6: performance audit of the entire federal government and making recommendations

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Speaker 6: for drastic reforms.

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Speaker 7: Need to do.

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Speaker 6: It can't go on the way we are now. And Elon,

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Speaker 6: because he's not very busy, has agreed to head that

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Speaker 6: task for us.

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Speaker 17: So Elon for Boss of the world. So that should

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Speaker 17: set up a little debate. The rest of Trump's speech

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Speaker 17: to the Economic Club of New Yorkshire time ago, it

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Speaker 17: was all about giving more tax cuts to the wealthy

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Speaker 17: and raising taris. Meantime, Kamala Harris is talking about sharply

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Speaker 17: increasing incentives for new small businesses and easing the tax

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Speaker 17: burden on the middle class. So rich versus poor longer

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Speaker 17: dynamic in American politics since the days of you know,

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Speaker 17: Canugee and Rockefeller and Vanderbilts and the rest of the

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Speaker 17: so called Robert barons at the turn of the twentieth century.

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Speaker 17: Kamala Harris says, all this a tariffs the deportations, the

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Speaker 17: ever growing corporate tax cuts will cause economic chaos.

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Speaker 18: He intends to cut off federal programs that give loans

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Speaker 18: to small businesses. He plans to give billionaires massive tax

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Speaker 18: cuts and to cut corporate taxes by over a trillion

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Speaker 18: dollars even as they pull in record profits.

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Speaker 17: Bill gold and Saxy financial services company and investment bankers

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Speaker 17: come out today siding with Harris.

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Speaker 2: Here's what they say.

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Speaker 17: Quote with Trump, the hit to growth from tariffs and

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Speaker 17: tighter immigration policy would outweigh the positive fiscal impulse. As

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Speaker 17: to Harris, they say, quote new spending and expanded middle

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Speaker 17: income tax credits would slightly more than off set lower

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Speaker 17: investment due to higher corporate tax rates. So that's perhaps

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Speaker 17: a little surprising from some on Wall Street, where the

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Speaker 17: Dow has been on a bit of a slide of late,

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Speaker 17: as we've seen. As for inflation, it's been really a

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Speaker 17: desperate battle in recent months to try to bring inflation down,

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Speaker 17: and that has sent interest rates to sky high levels,

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Speaker 17: making cars and homes unaffordable for many folks, and even

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Speaker 17: raising grossery prices. Goldin says increased tariffs on things like

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Speaker 17: auto imports from China Mexico and the EU would significantly

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Speaker 17: raise core inflation, while the shift away from federal health

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Speaker 17: and education programs would significantly add to the economic woes

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Speaker 17: of poor estates, especially southern states in this country, which

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Speaker 17: benefit way, way more than the wealthier states here when

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Speaker 17: it comes to federal programs.

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Speaker 2: And then as regards the election and what Merrick Garland

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Speaker 2: was saying yesterday at the Dog on top of this, Uh.

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Speaker 17: It's interesting, isn't it. They say that more than ever,

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Speaker 17: Putin's in a Circle has been trying to influence the

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Speaker 17: elections here. The US Attorney General Merrick Garland says, Putin

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Speaker 17: Aide set up phony websites meant to look like legitimate

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Speaker 17: news outlets, which then carried Russian propaganda opposing Biden and

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Speaker 17: the war in Ukraine.

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Speaker 19: These websites were designed to appear to American readers as

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Speaker 19: if they were major US news sites like the Washington

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Speaker 19: Post or Fox News, but in fact they were fake sites.

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Speaker 17: He says, this is more electoral interference than we have

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Speaker 17: seen before from Moscow.

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Speaker 19: It's an acceleration of and it's an increased sophistication.

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Speaker 17: So that's the headline. I didn't need to spend a

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Speaker 17: lot of money on it either it was a budget

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Speaker 17: around ten million dollars US, but the US now has

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Speaker 17: sees thirty two internet domains which were spun out of

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Speaker 17: a Tennessee based content creation company which posted nearly two

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Speaker 17: thousand fake videos in English, and then they were intended

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Speaker 17: to amplify the visions within this country's political scene.

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Speaker 11: Not hard to do.

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Speaker 17: One unnamed contributor with two point four million YouTube followers

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Speaker 17: received four hundred thousand US dollars a month for making

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Speaker 17: four videos a week. Another contributor was paid one hundred

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Speaker 17: thousand bucks per video. A meantime, Lady Me Putin has

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Speaker 17: just made an appearance where he has spoken of the

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Speaker 17: American presidential campaign, saying his favorite, if I may say so,

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Speaker 17: says Putin, was the incumbent President Biden. But he recommended

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Speaker 17: that his supporters support Miss Harris, said Putin, adding quote,

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Speaker 17: so we will do the same. Commentators noted that Putin

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Speaker 17: was smiling, grinning widely as he said this bit of a.

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Speaker 2: Joker is latly all right, every good weekend. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you on Monday, just before we live. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the Harris campers agreed. Apparently the weirdest thing on this debate.

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Speaker 2: They've agreed to the muted micro rule. I thought they'd

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Speaker 2: agreed to all the rules of the previous debate, and

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Speaker 2: then they decided they wouldn't agree. And now they've decided that,

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Speaker 2: well agree more probably more importantly, Biden's expected to announce,

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Speaker 2: by the way, that he's blocking a takeover of US

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Speaker 2: Steelmaker by Jap. The company are. It's a huge deal.

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Speaker 2: It's fifteen billion dollar deal. They announced it a while back.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it was announced last year Nippon Steel and

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Speaker 2: US Steel they were going to get together. It would

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Speaker 2: create one of the world's largest steel companies outside of China.

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Speaker 2: Investors loved it. It was going to save the company

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Speaker 2: because the US steels in a pile of pain. Not

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Speaker 2: that the unions can see that. They're up in arms now.

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Speaker 2: So Biden's going to block it. The shares are down.

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Speaker 2: Trump and Harris actually would block it as well. So

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Speaker 2: watch for that one in the next day or so.

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Speaker 2: Nine to seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Make Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talk said be.

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Speaker 2: Queaky of Elon Musk as Richard was a couple of

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Speaker 2: moments ago. I think he's announced overnight. I don't have

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Speaker 2: it in front of me. But I think he was

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Speaker 2: claiming overnight that the fully driverless car is going to

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Speaker 2: be available I think at least in Europe, not other

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Speaker 2: parts of the world, the next year. And that's not

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Speaker 2: going to happen. Of course he just says it is.

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Speaker 2: They're two different things. Starlink is now in the last

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Speaker 2: stages of getting operational licenses across the Pacific, while they

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Speaker 2: haven't been able to do that so far. I don't

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Speaker 2: know because people have been smuggling them in. So people

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Speaker 2: from the Islands go to New Zealand, Australia from Starlink

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Speaker 2: bring them back into the country. Solomon's have got one

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Speaker 2: and or got the license the Cook Islands as well Samoa.

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Speaker 2: The regulators expected to approve it any day. I would

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Speaker 2: have thought that that's top to toe, salt all your problem.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Starlink fan. Best thing Elon's ever done

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Speaker 2: is give the world's starlink. It works in war zones,

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Speaker 2: it works in rural New Zealand, it works in the

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Speaker 2: Pacific when they get it there. So it's a good, workable,

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Speaker 2: tangible idea far more workable than tangible than the driver's

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Speaker 2: car five minutes away. From seven all the inns.

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Speaker 1: And the outs HiT's the fizz with business Tiber take

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Speaker 1: your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: And in full disclosure, in a piece of raar honesty,

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Speaker 2: I am quite keen on buying a cyber truck. I've

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Speaker 2: got to be honest. I've looked at it. It's so cool.

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Speaker 2: I think I want to buy away. You can't get them.

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Speaker 9: I think you're the only person in the world who's

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Speaker 9: ever said that.

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Speaker 2: No, I think they're brilliant. I think they're potentially bringing

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Speaker 2: NFL season begins today, a good game this afternoon to

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Speaker 2: open the season. Chiefs Ravens sport of courses on a

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Speaker 2: mess of growth surge at the moment, but few sports

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Speaker 2: more successful than the NFL. Valuations average to own a

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Speaker 2: team one team ten point four billion billion values in

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Speaker 2: the last twenty years gone through the roof media deals

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Speaker 2: are the current agreements worth an average of fifteen billion,

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Speaker 2: which is eighty five percent more than the last deal.

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Speaker 2: When you add all the streaming deals that they've made

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Speaker 2: as well, the income jumps to about twenty billion. It

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Speaker 2: was ten billion the last deal, so it's doubled. All

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Speaker 2: thirty two teams share the sponsorship, the licensing, they collect

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Speaker 2: thirty four percent of the ticket sales. Last season, the

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Speaker 2: average team generated revenue of over a billion dollars a

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Speaker 2: year each and every team. So what are some of

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Speaker 2: these teams worth? The loser team, the worst team, not

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Speaker 2: that they're necessarily that way on the field, but they

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Speaker 2: just value them different ways. Of the Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 2: they're worth eight and a half billion. Twenty years ago

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Speaker 2: they're worth one billion, so they've gone from one to eight.

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Speaker 2: The most valuable team in the world is, of course,

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. They're worth seventeen and a half billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: And the great story about the Dellas Cowboys is that

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jones bought them for two hundred and forty million

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Speaker 2: dollars back in nineteen eighty nine. And when he brought

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Speaker 2: them for two hundred and forty million dollars back in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, they were losing a billion a month,

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Speaker 2: million a month or other one and a half million

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Speaker 2: a month. They were losing. And so now they're worth

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Speaker 2: seventeen point six billion dollars. And the big talking point

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Speaker 2: at the moment is what to do with them? How

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Speaker 2: had he because a lot of them are owned by families.

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Speaker 2: How do you pass it on one of the Texas

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Speaker 2: It's become a mess. Detroit Lines worth eight billion, Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chief that's Patrick and Travis's and Tay Taste team

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Speaker 2: nine point seven billion, Seattle Seahawks nine point eight, Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Eagles eleven point two, The New York Jets with Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers eleven point eight, The Giants useless team but worth

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Speaker 2: twelve point six billion dollars. Let's talk about building a

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Speaker 2: house in this country and whether or not we can

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Speaker 2: make it simpler and cheaper. More on that than us

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Speaker 2: which is next?

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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: across rest ssidential, commercial and rural US tod sad be.

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Speaker 2: Falling seven past seven to access to a greater range

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Speaker 2: of building materials. As a step close to the Building Amendment,

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Speaker 2: Build has been introduced to Parliament. This is the one

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Speaker 2: that came out of the jub shambles a couple of

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Speaker 2: years back. The Building and Construction Minister is Chris Pink. Chris,

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Speaker 2: morning to you, good morning, of all the things you

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Speaker 2: guys are doing around building, housing, land, et cetera in

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Speaker 2: this country. Where does this sit in terms of importance

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Speaker 2: and effectiveness do you reckon?

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Speaker 20: Well, look, I think it's pretty important and pretty far

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Speaker 20: At percent of the cost of construction is in materials,

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Speaker 20: so we can make a difference to that. But then

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Speaker 20: it goes alongside all the work that for example, Chris

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Speaker 20: Bishop's doing and freeing up the land in the first place,

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Speaker 20: and other stuff that's going on in building a construction too,

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Speaker 20: around processes trying to make it easier and more affordable

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Speaker 20: and quicker to builds and houses in this country.

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Speaker 2: How much theory versus reality is there? In other words,

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Speaker 2: are there a pile of products that are just sitting

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Speaker 2: waiting to come to the country that never have been

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Speaker 2: that will flood the market and suddenly the price drops, Well, look, I.

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Speaker 20: Mean that would be optimistic view. I think obviously we've

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Speaker 20: got to be realistic about the tech that there are

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Speaker 20: barriers that exist naturally to importing products in this country.

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Speaker 20: So we're a long way away. We've got a small market.

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Speaker 20: We're trying to make it a market. There's a bit lesson,

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Speaker 20: by the way, by encouraging a bit of activity, so

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Speaker 20: that again that's part of the overall picture of trying

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Speaker 20: to make it eatsier and quicker and cheaper to build

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Speaker 20: in this country. So look, it'll be somewhere between the

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Speaker 20: perfect world and what we've got now, but it'll be

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Speaker 20: a step in the right direction. And certainly it's going

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Speaker 20: to be about price, but also a little bit of

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Speaker 20: innovation and competition. It'll make people sharpening pencils here because

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Speaker 20: otherwise they would fear that people would find it worth

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Speaker 20: your while to ship a lot of products from Australia

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Speaker 20: and the US and wherever else.

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Speaker 2: Small irony here. This comes a day after the final

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Speaker 2: reporting to Grenfell in Britain. What's to stop the sort

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Speaker 2: of products that cause Grenfell coming into the country and

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Speaker 2: be put on houses.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, lot, very fair question. So our requirement is that

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Speaker 20: the same standards or higher equivalent standards from overseas are

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Speaker 20: going to need to be met. So it's not an

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Speaker 20: exercise in reducing safety or quality or sustainability for that matter.

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Speaker 7: It's saying that.

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Speaker 20: If you're already at that equivalent level two Zealand in

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Speaker 20: countries that you know have equivalent standard systems, and by

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Speaker 20: the way, also that conditions in New Zealand are suitable

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Speaker 20: for the use of those products, then you're going to

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Speaker 20: be able to use them. Otherwise, you know, it'll remain

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Speaker 20: that the normal pathways for getting stuff checked that's going

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Speaker 20: to continue to apply, which is.

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Speaker 2: Very slow in numbers, some much as a speaking of

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Speaker 2: slowne Comerson, as I mentioned, jib was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: How come does legislation take so long? How come we're

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Speaker 2: still here now and it's still not pass and I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming we'll be lucky to have this pass by the

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Speaker 2: end of the year.

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Speaker 20: Well, look, I can't for the previous government, but certainly

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Speaker 20: that was a golden opportunity that they had to do

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Speaker 20: something about this product that, to be fair, people have

721
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Speaker 20: talked about for years in the past. The board shortage

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Speaker 20: or crisis of a couple of years ago was just

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Speaker 20: the most obvious and well known example. So we've moved

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Speaker 20: quickly on it having come into government and we've got

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Speaker 20: legislation that is that yesterday has been introduced to the House.

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Speaker 20: You know, we'll do that as quickly as possible, but

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Speaker 20: at the same time, because the detail is important for

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Speaker 20: green cell tower. Another related reason, we're not going to

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Speaker 20: shorten the legis sort of process. So you know, in

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Speaker 20: terms of us coming in in moving quickly, we've done

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Speaker 20: that and we know that people are really looking forward

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Speaker 20: to that coming into effect.

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Speaker 2: Go well, have a good week in Chris Pink who's

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Speaker 2: the building construction Minister? Ten minutes past seven scale if

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Speaker 2: you can believe that the concept of ethnic priority appears

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Speaker 2: to be back in our health system. So we've held

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Speaker 2: a scheme in Hawk's Bay. It's been allowing fourteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty four year olds to receive free GP visits Act

739
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Speaker 2: in our claiming Mari and Pacifica are being prioritized for

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Speaker 2: that scheme. The Health Minister has asked the local officials

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Speaker 2: for an explanation. Orkan the University Medical America's emeritus professor

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Speaker 2: Das Gorman's with us stairs morning to you coome onring.

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Speaker 2: So my understanding this is a deal between Healthhawks Bay

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Speaker 2: and the local primary health So is it our business

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Speaker 2: or the minister's business or the local business? Do we

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Speaker 2: have an issue here or not?

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Speaker 16: Oh? I think agregating risk to the level of race

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Speaker 16: makes no sense whatsoever. If you'd believe there are inequities

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Speaker 16: in place which are driving inequalities you don't solve that

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Speaker 16: by doing something which generates another set of iniquities or inequalities.

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Speaker 16: The modern approach to healthcare, Mike, is to focus on

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Speaker 16: the individual's individual families in need and to put resources

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Speaker 16: in place that they need to actually improve or recover

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Speaker 16: and do well. But the minute you start aggregating risks

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Speaker 16: to the level of race, you've lost focus. And what

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Speaker 16: it means is that someone like me who identifies who's Mara,

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Speaker 16: who has a fucker Pubbet and Rpu and Marta Curri

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Speaker 16: has priority. But some struggling Asian family who are really

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Speaker 16: in desperate need financially and their kids of high health

760
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Speaker 16: needs are not primoritized. Now that's just an iniquities. So

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Speaker 16: what this represents, Mike, is the intilligence of what we

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Speaker 16: should be doing. The whole approach of the social investment

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Speaker 16: is not to say the problems otai who the problem is, Mari,

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Speaker 16: The problem is the family mind monastery, otah who we

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Speaker 16: need to put resources in place so that specific family

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Speaker 16: and the next is not doing this, Mike. We know

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Speaker 16: who these people are, we know where they live, and

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Speaker 16: there's only a matter of finding out what sort of

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Speaker 16: specific solutions they need to meet their specific needs.

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Speaker 2: How is it we've got ourselves down this rabbit hole?

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Speaker 16: Oh look, I think it's a mixture of virtue signaling

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Speaker 16: that I am also I think lazy thinking. Basically, well,

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Speaker 16: Mary have less access and do poorer in terms of healthcare.

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Speaker 16: Therefore let's prioritize Mara as if that's a dispect group

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Speaker 16: of people would defined boundaries exactly as a very sagmorphic group,

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Speaker 16: which includes people like me. So I think it's amazy

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Speaker 16: thinking in virtue signaling.

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Speaker 2: Do you think within your experience within the health system

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Speaker 2: that people defend it? I mean, bright people work in

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Speaker 2: the health system, do they using their brain power and

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Speaker 2: intellect actually defended as workable? Because I remember Chris Hepkins

782
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Speaker 2: got himself in dreadful trouble. He used to go, well,

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Speaker 2: a lot of mari are rural. Access to health is difficult,

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Speaker 2: which is true, but it's also difficult whether you a maor

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Speaker 2: or not. And he seemed to get himself tied up

786
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Speaker 2: on this. Everyone's in a knot over something that seems

787
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Speaker 2: to be incredibly simple to explain, and yet we still

788
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Speaker 2: do it. And I don't get that.

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Speaker 16: But yeah, look not why I'm like to be honest,

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Speaker 16: I don't know if people deviate from the very simple

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Speaker 16: task of identifying need and addressing need and then get

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Speaker 16: confused with all sorts of social phenomena And I don't

793
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Speaker 16: know what this is, this propensity to move away from

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Speaker 16: the obvious, which is where is the greatest need and

795
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Speaker 16: it addressed the greatest need before you know who these

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Speaker 16: families are, Like, we know who these individuals are, we

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Speaker 16: know where they live. There's no excuse for not being

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Speaker 16: with them and saying what do you want when it

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Speaker 16: comes do you want then working together to find specific

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Speaker 16: solutions for their specific needs. Instead what they get my

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Speaker 16: because they get a recipe or a menu of services

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Speaker 16: which frankly don't make their needs at all.

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Speaker 2: No exactly good to have you back on the program.

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Speaker 2: Does appreciate it very much. You have a good week.

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Speaker 2: In des Gormant Auckland University Medical Emeritus profession Professor. It

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Speaker 2: is fourteen past seven. Looks from Health New zeal And

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Speaker 2: Regional Manager Living Well Allison Russell. Zero fees. Healthcare is

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Speaker 2: funded for all children up to the age of fourteen

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Speaker 2: years across New Zealand. We have worked with Healthhawk's Bay

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Speaker 2: to reset the qualifying criteria to ensure financial sustainability of

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Speaker 2: the service for our most vulnerable young people across Hawk's Bay.

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Speaker 2: So far, so good, nothing wrong with that. From September one,

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Speaker 2: eligibility will be limited to young people age fourteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty four who are currently holding a community services card

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Speaker 2: fair enough, currently reside in a quintile five area, and

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Speaker 2: or have a diagnosed long term condition, including but not

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Speaker 2: limited to, diabetes, renal disease, cardinga basketa blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: once again not a problem, or Mario Pacific hoarnor so

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Speaker 2: up to that point medically no problem at all. Suddenly

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Speaker 2: race comes in. Why next point is this? It's all

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Speaker 2: very well for act to jump up and down about

822
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Speaker 2: this and go this is not right. Actor and government

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Speaker 2: do something about it. Fifteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Hike, asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how it

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be welling, Mike. Why people like Professor Des Gorman

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Speaker 2: running health in New Zealand instead of those and sane

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Speaker 2: people are ideologically possessed well, hopefully Lester Leeby's who's not

829
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Speaker 2: ideologically possessed as doing a good job and slowly but

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Speaker 2: surely cleaning those people out. By the way, Allan Lickman,

831
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Speaker 2: who I got a bit of time for. He's an historian.

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Speaker 2: He has has famed thirteen keys to the success of

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Speaker 2: the White House. He's got it right every single time,

834
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Speaker 2: including Trump and sixteen when very few people picked it.

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Speaker 2: So he's this morning worked as thirteen keys. Finally he's

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Speaker 2: come up with his prediction. I'll get to that later

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Speaker 2: on Clwitz Harris Mike, I get a bit of pushback

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Speaker 2: on the cyber truck, but I explain why it's Harris,

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Speaker 2: because there's some logic behind that. Mike, just been in

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Speaker 2: the US last week, saw a handful of cyber trucks,

841
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Speaker 2: unbelievably horrible. You're a man of class, correct, don't lower

842
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: your standards. I've looked at the cyber truck long enough

843
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Speaker 2: to believe, Yes, I don't even know that it's ugly anymore.

844
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Speaker 2: It's either one of two things. Either it's so ugly

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Speaker 2: it becomes fascinating, or it's usual it's not ugly, and

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00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: that part I can't work out. But nevertheless, I'm intrigued. Mike.

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Speaker 2: If you think you like the cyber truck now you

848
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: should check out Whistland Diesels YouTube channel, which I will

849
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: put a cyber truck up against the bad American pickup.

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Speaker 2: That's good viewing. That's my weekend sorted, Mike. The cyber

851
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: truck is awesome. They're just awfully big and not that pretty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they are big. That's the biggest part of why I

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Speaker 2: like it, Mike, C sixty three or a Mustang. It's

854
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: not part of what we're talking about. Stop them, by

855
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: the way, for all of this cost of living crisis,

856
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: you hear in the media, and I like to do

857
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Speaker 2: these stories because it does remind us that that what's

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00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: presented in the media is not always a true reflection

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00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: of society. So at the moment, you'd think that no

860
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Speaker 2: one can afford their groceries. We certainly can't afford to

861
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: turn the power on. We're all broken with third World,

862
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: which in some aspects we are. But I read also

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Speaker 2: this morning with a great deal of interest, that we

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Speaker 2: have households. You and I have put an extra two

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Speaker 2: point one billion dollars away in term deposits in July

866
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: July alone, two point one billion dollars, A lot of

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Speaker 2: money just piled it away. The high interest This is

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Speaker 2: all to do with the RB. Of course, in the

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Speaker 2: interest rates coming down, the amount of money held in

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Speaker 2: term deposits has gone up by one point six ods.

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Speaker 2: So this business of no one's got any money simply

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Speaker 2: isn't factually isn't true. We do have money and we're

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Speaker 2: putting it away. Term deposits have risen one point six

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Speaker 2: percent over the month to a record one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty six billion dollars. And that's just in savings accounts,

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Speaker 2: not the ones in the market's not the stuff tied

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Speaker 2: up in houses. It's just in savings acount. Fifty five

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Speaker 2: percent of all household bank deposits are in term deposits,

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Speaker 2: which is up from thirty eight percent. So we've seen

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Speaker 2: the opportunity gone. The interest rates are good. They're probably

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Speaker 2: as good as we get well bank. It simple as that.

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Speaker 2: Let's mark the week in a couple of moments. Seven twenty.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

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Speaker 1: by News talksp.

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Speaker 2: Too of mic ons is that that dodgy button again

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Speaker 2: could be the dodgy button last time I complained about

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Speaker 2: the dodgy button. Somebody, do you want to name names?

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Speaker 2: They did the investigation, they dropped coffee down at god

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Speaker 2: all sticky and they put a new one in. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: where am I seven twenty three timed out to mark

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Speaker 2: the week a little piece of news and current events.

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Speaker 2: It's more exciting than Nobbie Clark at a potluck dinner

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Speaker 2: coffee seven.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if we should be giving at seven

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Speaker 9: now that you said there.

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Speaker 2: Oh good point four, very good, eight ninety four, seventy five,

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Speaker 2: six twenty five. I reckon they could charge whatever they like, actually,

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Speaker 2: because we're so fixated with the stuff. Anyway toast two

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Speaker 2: wat a shat example of how you lose the plot

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Speaker 2: when you're down a rabbit hole. At thirty billion dollars

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Speaker 2: a year, Health's problem is not cooked bread, so stop

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Speaker 2: saying dumb things are The Grand Tour eight Telebastard.

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Speaker 13: After all these.

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Speaker 2: Years, it's out this time next week. I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: It is well worth it. A Brazil three spanning X

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Speaker 2: is more about politics and cleaning up content. Not that

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Speaker 2: the content doesn't need cleaning up, but read dis Silver's

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Speaker 2: comments this week on Muscard. There is your clue there. Elon,

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Speaker 2: speaking of witch six, called out our Prime minister on

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Speaker 2: a Asia tour this week, ask yourself how many major

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Speaker 2: business leaders globally would have the slightest clue as to

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Speaker 2: where Luxon is right now? O zimpic six this week

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Speaker 2: it sorts covid. How close to a miracle potion is

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Speaker 2: the stuff? Are the all blacks? Four? Ten point leads

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Speaker 2: should never be surrendered, But the TMO one, it's that

916
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Speaker 2: inept if it gets in the way of a good game.

917
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Speaker 2: What's the point Retail spending five? Because although it's down

918
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Speaker 2: for another month, is not down as much? And then

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Speaker 2: sinile a seven more money familiar. They brought a sign

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Speaker 2: that the green shoots light at the end of the tunnel,

921
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, is in fact evolving

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Speaker 2: in front of our very eyes. Are the outgoing treasury

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Speaker 2: head four? Anyone who advocates more taxes dangerous. But the

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Speaker 2: SMP report into our economy in debt three the current

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Speaker 2: account and council debt as bad as anywhere in the

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Speaker 2: whole world. And that is a lesson and a reminder

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Speaker 2: that once we get out of this not to head

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Speaker 2: back there again. Road funding seven. It was a long

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Speaker 2: time coming, wasn't it. Because we love roads, big roads,

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Speaker 2: white roads, roads that a loud to go place and

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Speaker 2: spring eight.

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Speaker 7: Good.

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Speaker 2: It is spring. Okay, we had a warm winter, lovely

934
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Speaker 2: warm winter, longer days. Daylight saving is just a couple

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Speaker 2: of days away, a couple of weeks away. Life is good.

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Speaker 2: That is the week copies on the website and the

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Speaker 2: meta oversite board, by the way, is ruled. Marking the

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Speaker 2: week is uplifting, educational, and at its best actually a

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Speaker 2: spiritual experience. Asking some numbers from the police, this is

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Speaker 2: really interesting. Tactical options report. Force remains low overall. Nine

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Speaker 2: percent increase in force events seven seven hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 2: last year overall. But that's zero point thirty percent of

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Speaker 2: all police jobs attended. So you just do that and

944
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Speaker 2: that maths quickly. If seven seven hundred and nineteen is

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Speaker 2: zero point three percent, think about how much work the

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Speaker 2: police do worldwide. They note that other jurisdictions are seeing

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Speaker 2: an increasing trend towards violence. Gang members here accounted for

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Speaker 2: nine percent of the events as in the force events,

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Speaker 2: despite making up only zero point two percent of the

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Speaker 2: national population. Police are forty five times more likely to

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Speaker 2: need to use force in these interactions. Gang members are

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Speaker 2: more likely to be armed twenty five percent more likely

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Speaker 2: to be armed last year. There's been a slight drop

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Speaker 2: in the number of incidents involving firearms by offenders where

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Speaker 2: police were also required to use firearms. Police discharge of

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Speaker 2: firearm only seven times last year, discharge only seven times.

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Speaker 2: Taser events. Now, this is interesting because all the whales

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Speaker 2: are said, are it's going to be dreadful. The number

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Speaker 2: of taser use or the amount of taser use has

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Speaker 2: not changed between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three. Now

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Speaker 2: to mention Mark Mitchell, here, Maray continued to be over

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Speaker 2: represented in the use of force events by police. Maray

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Speaker 2: account for half of them, percentage of the population, half

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Speaker 2: of them. As Mark Mitchell says, the police don't choose

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Speaker 2: who they deal with, so that whole bollocks about the

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Speaker 2: institutional in built racism within the force is exactly that right.

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Speaker 2: What's got going to do is he sorted? I mean

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Speaker 2: putting body on the bench. Should I raise that? Is

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Speaker 2: that awkward anyway? Scott robertson from South Africa after the News,

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Speaker 2: which is next here at News Talk Seed.

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Speaker 1: B You're Trusted Home the News for Entertainment, Opinion and

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Speaker 1: Mike Mike Asking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 1: News talks head be Jim and.

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Speaker 2: Cody after right twenty three minutes away from it. It's

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Speaker 2: let's have another correct time this week end for the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks as they line the South Africans up and

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Speaker 2: the decider in Cape Town in the early hours of

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, New Zealand Time All Blacks coach Scott robertson

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Speaker 2: with us, Good morning, I.

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Speaker 21: Help it from South Africa.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's very good. How's it been for you?

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Speaker 2: Talk us through the week.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I look to change your room. Been in a

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Speaker 21: few changing rooms, man. That was there was a tough

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Speaker 21: one that was a lot of heard got heard, and

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Speaker 21: it got about sick people, players and staff and management

987
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Speaker 21: and you can I mentioned we put everything into it

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Speaker 21: and we didn't give the job done and you got

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Speaker 21: turned the page pretty quickly and on the Monday we

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Speaker 21: funked it up. We'll get better and we got on

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Speaker 21: with it.

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Speaker 2: How exposed have you been this week to the commentary,

993
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Speaker 2: the noise, the local expectation, all of that stuff or

994
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Speaker 2: have you kept yourself away from it?

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Speaker 21: I haven't picked on so many apps, to be honest

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Speaker 21: with you. Look, of course, I don't know it's going

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Speaker 21: to be there no matter what happened. Really, so look, look,

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Speaker 21: I'm just doing everything I can. Just work for the

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Speaker 21: team and work for the all backs and that's my focus.

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Speaker 2: Good on you. The difference between Ellis Park and this

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Speaker 2: weekend Cape Town, the size of support all that, Does

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Speaker 2: that make any difference at all or not?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 21: Man, Ellis Park is someplace that it's an experience and

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Speaker 21: a half. Mic, I don't think there's anything that you

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Speaker 21: can compare that to you. But although I support it

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Speaker 21: down here, as you know, the the cape of right

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Speaker 21: behind us for so many people at are training and

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Speaker 21: there there phanetics, so I'll there'll be a different feel.

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Speaker 21: It's a totally different vibe than Bean up there, but

1011
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Speaker 21: still still a rectangle. It's still going to be as

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Speaker 21: fierce as it ever has. You know the spring Box,

1013
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 21: you know, they when they roll up, they roll up.

1014
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Speaker 21: So from from the point of view, in the atmosphere

1015
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Speaker 21: of view, doesn't matter when you go in South Africa,

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Speaker 21: they know their rugby passionate. Doesn't matter what color, gender

1017
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Speaker 21: they are, they are into it. So look, it's going

1018
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Speaker 21: to be another health test.

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Speaker 3: Men.

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Speaker 2: Are you able to given what happened last week? Are

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Speaker 2: you able to embrace in the guys able to embrace

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Speaker 2: the environment because you could argue these are the two

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Speaker 2: best sides in the world, the exponents at this particular

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Speaker 2: art and that's to be actually that that's exciting.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well that's the challenge you want, you know, like

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Speaker 21: we've it's seven or deep tones a share and they

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Speaker 21: just experienced if they never would have done before you

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Speaker 21: had before, to go and do it here against a

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Speaker 21: team that's you know, got clear DNA. You know they

1030
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Speaker 21: want you know, they want the ball off, the petrol

1031
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Speaker 21: will stop, so you know, they want a game where

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Speaker 21: it just goes into an arm wrestle and a grind.

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Speaker 21: And so there's so many factors. Is the referee, the interpretation,

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Speaker 21: the laws, you know they can play on top of

1035
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Speaker 21: your things. Games swing so quickly and so you know

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Speaker 21: you've got to learn really really quickly. And it's been

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Speaker 21: a great experience for us to tour. Normally tour you know,

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Speaker 21: my kids, but this is a genoine two block tour.

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Speaker 21: You know, normally play a team to back, so that's

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Speaker 21: unique in itself.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Speaking of which, the South African head of rugby,

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Speaker 2: let's look this this talk of this tour in twenty

1043
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Speaker 2: twenty six, eight matches, three tests. Is that something you

1044
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Speaker 2: would relish it'll.

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Speaker 21: Be an awesome Yeah, it isssu forties, but they you know,

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Speaker 21: if it does come along. But the concept's awesome, you know,

1047
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Speaker 21: like touring bit of old school to it. You know,

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Speaker 21: you've got a group of sixty odd midweek and just

1049
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Speaker 21: that they said genuine white touring, you know, two bigest rivals.

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Speaker 21: So it's something gets you know, it's a throw back

1051
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Speaker 21: in time, but it's just what you need right now

1052
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 21: and we're Rugby.

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Speaker 2: To talk us through. You talked about the changing of

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Speaker 2: the side, the changes you're making, and some of them

1055
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Speaker 2: are young guys or new guys. What do you tell

1056
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: them and why are you experimenting to this level at

1057
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: this particular point of the tour given you know, many

1058
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Speaker 2: people would argue, just put your best players on the

1059
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Speaker 2: field that you know, can you know, live up to

1060
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Speaker 2: the expectation and the tension.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, there's a bit of a balance to that, you know.

1062
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Speaker 21: Like obviously we had a couple of injuries with Deep

1063
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Speaker 21: and and Caleb playing great footing stuff on them. They

1064
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Speaker 21: disappointed out said they wanted to play and we just

1065
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 21: see so much in these young these young players, and

1066
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 21: to give them an opportunity, you know, like that's what

1067
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Speaker 21: said later for you know, they don't go and play them.

1068
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 21: You know, look, Courtious played a lot of rugby with

1069
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Speaker 21: the neck.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 21: It's an exciting young player. And we can finish with TJ.

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Speaker 21: And obviously we're bothing and his role in his experience

1073
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Speaker 21: and what he's done when he's come off the bench.

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Speaker 21: So we believe we've got a great balance to set

1075
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Speaker 21: these guys up to succeed and and go and play.

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Speaker 21: Are talented?

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Speaker 2: Good? How are you enjoying it? We haven't talked since

1078
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Speaker 2: you've got the job. You know you started out in

1079
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Speaker 2: the job. Have the all blacks got the full razor

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Speaker 2: imprint yet?

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Speaker 21: Look, because it's the first of everything. Everything is the

1082
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Speaker 21: first everything you do, the first test match, you know

1083
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Speaker 21: that your first your language, how you set it up,

1084
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Speaker 21: how I do my mindset stuff all the on field,

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Speaker 21: how you run a week? You know, the first tour

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Speaker 21: that you've got. So once you've done that and goes,

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Speaker 21: I've got it now because everyone's so sort of guessing

1088
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 21: what there's a match yet to what your feet when

1089
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 21: you walk into everywhere that we've got so your present

1090
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 21: everyone's like, oh okay, so there's a lot of now

1091
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 21: that's all done. But you do no matter how much

1092
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 21: preparation you do, you really only learn when you've got

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00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 21: the job. And it's as we know, it's all a

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00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 21: big job, but it's still about people. It's still about

1095
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 21: you know, trusting your instinct in just stipping forth and

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00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 21: doing the right things. So it's a big the hell

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00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 21: of a job, the hell of expectation and responsibility comes

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00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 21: with it. And the look I enjoyed, I'm just going

1099
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 21: to continue to.

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Speaker 2: Be myself my best thing you can possibly be. Will

1101
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: go well this weekend. Always good to talk to you

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00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: any good Scott Robertson out of South Africa for us

1103
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: this moment. Now, I've uncovered a scandal that involves the

1104
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: state broadcaster, Radio New Zealand. You and I pay for this.

1105
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: Radio New Zealand is a Radio New Zealand, Radio New Zealand.

1106
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: They're not what they worgling. But because they're not what

1107
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: they were, something nefarious, underhand and possibly dastardly has been uncovered.

1108
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: The exclusive detailales next sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Good The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1110
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: powered by the News.

1111
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: Talks at me right oh fourteen a away from it.

1112
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Speaker 2: Here's a bit of insight into how the radio industry works.

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00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: Yesterday morning leads story Matt Doocy on the Mic asking Breakfast.

1114
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: Matt Doosey was due to ring in. Matt Doocey's nowhere

1115
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: to be seen. At about five minutes past seven. We

1116
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: go to as what's happened to Matt Doocy? We start

1117
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: chasing him down. Turns out the person in his office

1118
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: had written down the wrong number for him to ring,

1119
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: so obviously immediate in confidence and needs to be dealt

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Speaker 2: with forthwith to the basics. Brilliantly, I thought was the

1121
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: National Party? It's not so. Anyway, he rings the number

1122
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: that's written down in front of him. Person answers the

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00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: phone Hello. He goes, Hello, It's Matt Doocy reporting for

1124
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: the Mic Hosking Breakfast, to which he hears the words, oh,

1125
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: you no longer have an interview on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

1126
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: He goes on, what's unusual, hangs up, and he disappears. Anyway,

1127
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: we eventually track him down and put him in the

1128
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Speaker 2: Whose phone number was that? Whose phone number was that?

1129
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: That phone number belonged to Radio New Zealand. So Matt Doocy,

1130
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: Minister of the Crown, rang up the state broadcaster as

1131
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: funded by you, and I threw our tax money and

1132
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: said Matt Doocy reporting for the Mike Hosking Breakfast, to

1133
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: which point they said, you no longer have an interview

1134
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: with the Mike Cosking Breakfast. Now that's not true, of course,

1135
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: that's a lie. They lied, They made it up and

1136
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: they lied. Now several questions for you. One, do I

1137
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: secretly admire them for being so quick witted that they

1138
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: first thing they do is instead of going, oh, you've

1139
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: probably got the wrong number, or whoops, you've rung radio

1140
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, sorry, they say you no longer have

1141
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 2: an interview with the Mike Hosking Breakfast. That's quite sharp,

1142
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: to be honest. Probably worth looking into employing that person,

1143
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: whoever they were, because there are some people here aren't

1144
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: remotely that sharp. Second, is it underhand?

1145
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 16: Third?

1146
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: Is that just competition and that's life? And would we

1147
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: have done the same thing if we were alerted up

1148
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: to do the same thing? Fourth? Is it just pure

1149
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: straight up and down sabotage? And you shouldn't line make

1150
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: stuff up that isn't true. What are your thoughts on this?

1151
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 9: Fifth?

1152
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: If we find out and I can who the person is,

1153
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: should I name and shame them? Thoughts please?

1154
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 11: Sex?

1155
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

1156
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1157
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 9: Should we just ring them?

1158
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? But they won't be the same that it's a

1159
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: general line. What if it's someone different?

1160
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 9: Seven?

1161
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 2: Yes?

1162
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 3: What was it?

1163
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 9: Russian state interference?

1164
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 2: Very good question? Hard to tell? Was the a bird

1165
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: in the background?

1166
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 9: Eight? Is there like, you know, an anchorman? Yes, instead

1167
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 9: of like an internewsroom rivalry? And eventually we'll have to

1168
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 9: go down to the oh yeah, you know, to the

1169
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 9: basketball court and with our aeriels and our zip guns

1170
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 9: and have a fight.

1171
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: You no longer have an interview with the Mic hosking

1172
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: Breakfast Click.

1173
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Tend to Wait, the mic hosting Breakfast with a Vida Returnment,

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Speaker 1: Communities News, tog sad.

1175
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: B seven Away from It So Wellington, They're at it again.

1176
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: Shell Lane, which is just off the Terrace, has had

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Speaker 2: a bit of a makeup. Part of its new bike

1178
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Speaker 2: rack holds twenty four bikes. Apparently the cost is half

1179
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Speaker 2: a million dollars. In fact, it's more than half a

1180
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: million dollars. It's five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The

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Speaker 2: Wellington City Council of Diane Kelbot's with us on this. Diane,

1182
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: very good morning.

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Speaker 7: To you, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: Just for clarity's sake, is the lane five hundred and

1185
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars or just the bike rack?

1186
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 12: Well, the bike crack was around about one hundred and

1187
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 12: twenty thousand. But to put the bike rack in they

1188
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 12: needed to make the footpath wider, and then they also

1189
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 12: put some CCTV cameras in, and then they need to

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Speaker 12: put some power to the bike rack. So all and

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00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 12: out it costs sort of round about five hundred and

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Speaker 12: sixty two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Do excuse me, why do you need power for a

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Speaker 2: bike rack?

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Speaker 12: Well, you need to have the cct that the camera's there. Okay,

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00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 12: look over twenty four bikes, which it seems quite bizarre

1197
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Speaker 12: when we don't have enough CCTV cameras through this CBD

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Speaker 12: with lots more people.

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Speaker 2: Around, I'm guessing there aren't twenty four bikes. There's never

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Speaker 2: been twenty four bikes, am I right?

1201
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 12: Well, look I've been down the last few weeks and

1202
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 12: either there's the most spikes I've seen there is one.

1203
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: Okay, one bint, so twenty three gets so pay plenty of.

1204
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 12: Park and fifty meters up the roads the council's building

1205
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Speaker 12: and there's a public bike rack outside and that's never

1206
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Speaker 12: full right.

1207
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Speaker 2: How is it the stuff happens from your experience?

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00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 12: Well, it's it's probably hidden away in some budgets that

1209
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 12: we never see the light of day. But I mean,

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Speaker 12: obviously an example like this, we need to make sure

1211
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 12: we've got better transparency because also this is a half

1212
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Speaker 12: a million dollar budget as it's turned out to be.

1213
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Speaker 12: But if we think about the Golden mar and Thornton Key,

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Speaker 12: which are millions of dollars, If we're doing this on

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00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 12: a simple bike crack, what on earth are we going

1216
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Speaker 12: to be doing on those projects?

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Speaker 2: We couldn't agree more. Are you cognizant that Wellington's dead

1218
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: has in Wellington City's debt will go up by ninety

1219
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: one percent this year from three years ago to one

1220
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: point eight billion dollars?

1221
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1222
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Speaker 12: I think it was around about one point eight one

1223
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Speaker 12: point nine billion.

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Speaker 2: And when we are talking about half a million.

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00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 12: Dollar bark cracks, well I do. But for Salmon, I've

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Speaker 12: been really surprised by some of my colleagues reaction as

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Speaker 12: if they're not really that concerned, which is really concerning

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00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 12: to me because we just had a twenty percent rates

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 12: increase and literally I've got residents saying, we can't afford this.

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Speaker 12: You know, we're on fixed incomes, we can't afford this,

1231
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 12: and we are spending half a million dollars on a

1232
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 12: bike crack that's not quired in that particular area.

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Speaker 2: Do you find your life frustrating as a council of Diane.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely absolutely, But you know somebody's got to keep on

1235
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Speaker 12: with good fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. You have a good weekend. I

1237
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: appreciate your time, Diane Calvert. I couldn't stand it. I'd

1238
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: rather shoot myself. Wellington's debt up by ninety one percent

1239
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: to one point eight billion, HUT up by one hundred

1240
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: and thirty nine percent to five hundred and thirty nine million,

1241
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: and PORI rue is up by one hundred and forty

1242
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: three percent to three and fifty five million. Okay, let's

1243
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Speaker 2: get to the r N zigate. Third, No, don't text.

1244
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Speaker 2: And third I can't remember what third was because I

1245
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: make the stuff up.

1246
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Speaker 3: It was.

1247
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Speaker 9: It's just a commercial reality, and I've probably done the.

1248
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: Same commercial reality okay, number three, that's competition. No naming,

1249
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Speaker 2: all right? Fair enough Radio in New Zealand cesspit of

1250
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: die Hard Dernista's Like many government departments. I think it's

1251
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: overly political. I don't think you need to go down

1252
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: that track, although I might agree. Name and shame Mike, Mike,

1253
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: Name and shame. That's two in a row. Mike, you'll

1254
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: never find out who it is. Don't Radio and New

1255
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: Zealand have like thirty five producers? Very good point last

1256
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: year in the Radio Awars. Actually this year on the

1257
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: Radio Awards, was it up to nineteen? I think they

1258
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: got up to nineteen. Last year it was sixteen producers

1259
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 2: per morning that's just Morning Reports, not Radio New Zealand,

1260
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: just Morning Report, the one show. So they're up to

1261
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: nineteen producers. So yep, finding them needle in a haystack,

1262
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: totally out the mic. That's exactly what some lefty woke

1263
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: would do. Paul, thank you, Name and shame Mike, Mike,

1264
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: Name and shame much more fun. I think name and

1265
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: shame wins, doesn't it.

1266
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

1267
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: Mike casting Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut from

1268
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: a different class. News talks edb.

1269
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: These days of wild thirty times and as empties. Guys,

1270
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: what's the guy's name? Straits course, nothing sounds like Naughlin,

1271
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: doesn't look.

1272
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 9: I don't think that's news. I think when it comes

1273
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 9: to slowhand guitarists who can't really say, this is Dave

1274
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 9: Gilmore at Mark notfler right, it was news to me.

1275
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 9: Eric claps there as well.

1276
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think Eric's a little bit better than this.

1277
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: I'd put Eric in a different league to this. This

1278
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: is Dave Gilmore, who once upon time was a member

1279
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: of the band any Much. His fifth solo record a

1280
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: band well you didn't have, Yes only as third of

1281
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: the twenty first century, so he's not exactly pumping them out.

1282
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: He continues to tour, He collaborates widely. He advocates for

1283
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: numerous just causes. This could be my CV donated the

1284
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: money from selling his home and guitars to charity. Anyway,

1285
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: this all sounds a bit self indulged for me, to.

1286
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 11: Be technically honest.

1287
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: It's called luck and strange and there is eleven tracks,

1288
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: but here's the twist, sixty one and a half minutes

1289
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 2: worth of music. But the final track is just sheer

1290
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: indulgence at fourteen minutes.

1291
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 9: Well, that's classic thing, Floyd, doesn't it says?

1292
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: I suppose Oh that was the band, wasn't it you?

1293
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: I remember him only it's the original Barney the Week.

1294
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: In Review with two degrees fighting for fear for Kiwi business.

1295
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: Mike who provided the wrong number, mistake or collusion stip

1296
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: straight to the Minister's office. If it's collusion, this goes

1297
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: all the way to the top, almost the top, because

1298
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: Matt Doocey is not really the top, but there's in

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Speaker 2: the cabinet of its collusion. Tim Wilson's with us good Morning,

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Speaker 2: and Kate Hawksby's with us good Morning.

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Speaker 22: I'm still in shock that one of the nineteen producers

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Speaker 22: at Arenz would be quick enough to say that. And

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Speaker 22: do we know they actually you sure they didn't just

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Speaker 22: say no that we don't have an interview with.

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Speaker 2: You no word. The words have come back from Matt

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Speaker 2: Doocy quote unquote because we put the wires on them

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Speaker 2: and we water ordered him and we said you tell

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Speaker 2: this straight up and our mate and he said, the

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Speaker 2: words were you no longer have an interview with the

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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 4: That is that is I'm staggered.

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Speaker 2: I'm staggered too that they had the wherewithal to do it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's why I'm not angry, because I who

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Speaker 2: someone's and that that's news to me. That's good, that's good.

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Speaker 15: You should have given Did you give them the wet

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Speaker 15: telephone book as well?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do about it. It's I mean,

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Speaker 2: I could take this place, as I reckon, I could

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Speaker 2: take this to the B s A. All thet take

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Speaker 2: it to the B s A. I can't be bothered

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Speaker 2: with the paper.

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Speaker 22: Who because surely that person needs a promotion, because they

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Speaker 22: must be the only person in the building.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, you see that's wet and would you wear

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Speaker 2: a future.

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Speaker 7: Producer.

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Speaker 2: They'll be listening because everyone at radio is listens to

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Speaker 2: this to work out how to do good radio and

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Speaker 2: so well.

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Speaker 4: Really only to criticize it later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but oh no, they've got they've got to do

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Speaker 2: that publicly but secretly. One of the edicts that went

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Speaker 2: out to post the survey period they said, you've got

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Speaker 2: to listen to Hosking to work out how to do

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Speaker 2: it properly, and so they all have to tune in

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Speaker 2: for a minimum of twenty minutes a day, and so.

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Speaker 15: That's more than U Kate, that's more than you listen

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Speaker 15: to it.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. The word I'm getting back is that they're thoroughly

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Speaker 2: enjoying it and they want to introduce a few elements.

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Speaker 2: And so if you get the call from them, don't

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Speaker 2: be surprised if they're looking to replicate some of the

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Speaker 2: stuff here.

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Speaker 15: Now we can review completely unscripted, like a circus of

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Speaker 15: drunk people.

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Speaker 7: But don't worry.

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Speaker 2: We're with you exactly. We're here exactly now. Oasis ticket

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Speaker 2: Tim tremendous upset and up excitement at our house over

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Speaker 2: the success of us gleaning four tickets to the Oasis

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Speaker 2: concert next year in Manchester. Now, but really I'm not here.

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Speaker 15: I'm not hearing that in your voice, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Well, not just hearing, because the advice I'm seeking do

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Speaker 2: you put yourself in our position, so young person's got

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Speaker 2: the tickets, do you, as a parent look to accompany

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Speaker 2: them on the trip and ji on the whole experience.

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Speaker 22: Because just just let me tell you this, Tim, we

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Speaker 22: got the news late overnight from the daughter who'd been

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Speaker 22: online for three hours and we'd gone to sleep, so

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Speaker 22: she texted all caps. Oh erg got the tickets. So

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Speaker 22: I wake up Father's Day morning and I say to

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Speaker 22: Mike just as he opens his eyes, well guess who's

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Speaker 22: going to Manchester.

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Speaker 4: And he's like not me, and I'm like, yep, we

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Speaker 4: gotta go.

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Speaker 22: And the daughter are both no way, you're not coming.

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Speaker 15: I think, yeah, look, you should go. It'll be an adventure.

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Speaker 2: Just do it.

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Speaker 4: Sort of advice is that that's pretty good advice.

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Speaker 2: The count The counter term is you've got to let

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Speaker 2: them spread their wings, raise the money themselves, go out

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Speaker 2: and get a job, book their tickets, book the accommodation.

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Speaker 7: Totally.

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Speaker 15: No, I'm not saying I'm not I'm not saying thunder

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Speaker 15: whole damn thing.

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Speaker 2: But you've got to go to the concert.

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Speaker 15: But what she's finding it okay, fine, fine, so get

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Speaker 15: over there, get into the mosh pet make her embarrassed individuations.

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Speaker 2: This is what makes it even more pathetic because we

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Speaker 2: don't have tickets. The four tickets are for her free.

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Speaker 11: Well I don't go.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I thought you had tickets.

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Speaker 15: Tickets we would just literally go and you drop them

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Speaker 15: off and pick them up.

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Speaker 2: No, all of these kids, well they're eighteen, they're adults

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Speaker 2: will be eighteen at concert time, so that we add.

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Speaker 11: A and get themselves there.

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Speaker 4: It's a big trip by themselves, and it's.

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Speaker 22: A long way away, and you know time zone and

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Speaker 22: you know there could be trouble.

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Speaker 4: It's an oasis consonant Manchester. For goodness sake, any mother

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Speaker 4: would worry.

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Speaker 2: Surely we'll take feed on this as well more in

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Speaker 2: a moment thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, car

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Speaker 1: it by News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks B sixteen past eight, a week in review

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Speaker 2: with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table.

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Speaker 2: Ask Kirsty Alsop what she'd do. It's a very good.

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Speaker 4: Point, you know what she'd do.

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Speaker 22: Look, look, be honest here this is just basically a

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Speaker 22: little entree THEU to pinishing a trip to London.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it for the parents? Well?

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Speaker 15: No, no, Look i think I've got the solution.

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Speaker 11: I've got this.

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Speaker 15: What's what's the UK correspondent Gavin Gray doing that night?

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Speaker 15: He can pick them up and drop them off.

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Speaker 2: He lives quite a way out of London. He'd find

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Speaker 2: that to be inconvenient. I've had a beer with Gabon

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Speaker 2: and he's.

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Speaker 15: A trustworthy person.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's trustworthy, don't get me wrong. And he paid

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Speaker 2: for the beer too, had a pint of London Pride

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Speaker 2: just below the Ferris Wheel in London. Mike, how much

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Speaker 2: were the four tickets? How much were o? Katy was

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Speaker 2: at three grand for four?

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Speaker 4: No, it wasn't that much, actually, yea it was.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 15: Oh my goodness, that's Aki Sweat. I always do this,

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Speaker 15: we have three grand. It's Azuki Swift, one of those

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Speaker 15: kids really want.

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Speaker 2: That's the ticket tech ticket master scam where they create

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Speaker 2: and there's there's an investigation by Parliament and Britain over this.

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Speaker 2: And what fascinates me about that is it's almost like

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Speaker 2: they've never held a concert in Britain and never sold

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Speaker 2: any tickets before because they've been surprised by the ticket

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Speaker 2: master thing, whereby they jerrymandered the demand, therefore boost the price.

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Speaker 2: Therefore everyone pays more than they want to pay. And

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Speaker 2: that's just the way tickets have sold forever. As far

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Speaker 2: as I can work out, that's surge pricing for you. Katie, omg,

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Speaker 2: you have had old children for crying out loud. Let

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Speaker 2: them into the wild. Are you going to twin rotor,

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Speaker 2: Russian tank lifting helicopter them right up there. Mothers always

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Speaker 2: worry counterbalance at Katie. Mothers always worry out of the age.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you just sometimes you just have to trust and

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Speaker 2: let them fly. That's from gen Who's I think on

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Speaker 2: your side?

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Speaker 22: Okay, I probably wouldn't worry so much if she wasn't

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Speaker 22: going to an Oasis concert in Manchester.

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Speaker 4: You put those two things together. If she was just

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Speaker 4: going to the UK, it might be all right. But

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Speaker 4: Manchester and Oasis and the crowd Oasis brings with them

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Speaker 4: makes me slightly worried having said that, I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to go to Manchester myself.

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Speaker 15: So ah, for goodness sake, have you got any trustworthy uncles,

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Speaker 15: aunt relatives, anyone you know that Could's what.

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Speaker 4: We're working on. There is a son living in London

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Speaker 4: and we are worth That's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: Yet the word being trustworthy there, Tim, that's the That's

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Speaker 2: where we're still working on. Take the foot pines or

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Speaker 2: two of that London.

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Speaker 15: Get Gavin Gray to give them a pints or two

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Speaker 15: of that London.

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Speaker 7: What was it?

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Speaker 2: London pride. Can't beat London pride. Take the foot off cap.

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Speaker 2: My son flew to South Africa. So you worried about Manchester.

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Speaker 2: My son flew to South Africa at nearly eighteen. Took

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Speaker 2: a leaf out of Kirsty's book.

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Speaker 4: There you go, that's impressive. That's good. Look it's not

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Speaker 4: it's not easily letting go of the last child. I

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Speaker 4: tell you what. It's not easy. After five of them

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Speaker 4: and she's.

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Speaker 11: The last leave.

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Speaker 22: It's very you know, it's quite traumatic as a parent

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Speaker 22: when you're youngest is finishing up school and venturing out

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Speaker 22: into the big wide world.

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Speaker 2: You've got all the still at four to two.

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Speaker 15: That's because you have to paying attention to that schmuck.

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Speaker 15: You're married, that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That's true. Do you know. I sit here, I've never

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Speaker 2: been more enthused about our future life together because you

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Speaker 2: do read those stories about the couples when the kids

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Speaker 2: leave home and stuff that they look at each other

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Speaker 2: and go on Jesus in a way to marry you

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Speaker 2: and then it all falls apart. There were some stats

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Speaker 2: out the other day on divorce.

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Speaker 11: Oh that was divorce.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and did.

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Speaker 2: You read those it's at fifty five plus. The percentage

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Speaker 2: goes up and it's based on the fact that the

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Speaker 2: kids leave home you look at each other realize you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been married in the first place, and then

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Speaker 2: you get divorced. Whereas I've never been more enthused about

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Speaker 2: spending the rest of my life with Katie.

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Speaker 9: You get a dog though you we have the dog helps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose that's true.

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Speaker 15: Now, I don't think those stats apply to people who

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Speaker 15: married at forty five, So I agree with you. I've

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Speaker 15: never been more in love with my WiFi. She's just amazing.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Mike. Admittedly you're the pre eminent broadcaster,

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Speaker 2: but do you really have the resources to find out

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Speaker 2: who this Finke at Radio New Zealand is? I almost can.

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Speaker 2: I almost doubt you can. They will close ranks, they will.

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Speaker 2: I think Mitch is right.

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Speaker 4: I think an oia could be.

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Speaker 2: That's excellent question. Release all phone records on the day

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Speaker 2: at the time. That wouldn't even take very long. Your producers,

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Speaker 2: which one of the nineteen picked up the phone.

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Speaker 7: And went.

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Speaker 4: She was on the other foot. It would be so easy,

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Speaker 4: because you've got one so exactly.

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Speaker 2: I got the single producer whose name is also.

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Speaker 15: Had a Pakistani producer at Rady in New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: I did love your bird calls behind. That was very good.

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01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 4: That was very funny and very true. He is there

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01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 4: a bird in the background?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I've got to I've got to know. Oh quick question, Tim,

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Speaker 2: how many record shops? So there's an ad for the

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Speaker 2: Dave Gilmore album right on our show this morning, and

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Speaker 2: I just played Dave Gilmore and it says available now

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Speaker 2: at a record shop near you. In fact, a good

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Speaker 2: record shop near you. How many record shops you are?

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Speaker 2: You reckon? They were left in New Zealand? Two right,

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: That's what I said. And do you know how many

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Speaker 2: there are on k Road alone in Auckland.

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Speaker 11: That's true?

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01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 4: Final collection is huge?

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, well it's yeah, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Actually.

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Speaker 15: Actually the other thing is I saw a piece about

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01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 15: books are coming back because people are abandoning abandoning devices

1522
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 15: because they actually want artifacts.

1523
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't think books ever went anywhere, did they? Thought

1524
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: books have always been popular and the Kendall never took off,

1525
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: and we love books. But I'm pleased to hear that

1526
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: that's the case.

1527
01:11:54,360 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 15: Five yep, No five five shops in New Zealand.

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01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: No five record shops and k Road alone. Okay, anyway,

1529
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: you have a good WEEKND.

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 22: No one can go to them anymore because k Road's

1531
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 22: just one giant bus lane finnily enough.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I said off here to people. It

1533
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: says they can't get there given the places closed down.

1534
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 2: But that's that's for another day. Hey, do you just

1535
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: quickly and I know I'm going on too long, and

1536
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: you watch this Katie Anna delviy is the name ring

1537
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: of Belly.

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01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, of course.

1539
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. So guess what she's doing.

1540
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 4: She's doing. I know what she's doing. Is it dancing

1541
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 4: with the stars.

1542
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: She's doing Dancing with the stars. She's a convicted she's

1543
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: a convicted felon, and she's going to be on Dancing

1544
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 2: with the Stars with an ankle bracelest yeap hollow rings.

1545
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: Reality television got.

1546
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 9: Well, and then you've got another convicted president.

1547
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: So you know that's actually Glenn makes a very good

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: point there, doesn't.

1549
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 15: It Maybe not according to the latest, you.

1550
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 11: Know the latest.

1551
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to get to that mine. I'm going to

1552
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 2: get to that right listen, I've got to go. You

1553
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: to just be quiet, you kick me to It's eight

1554
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: twenty three.

1555
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: The Mike hosting Breakfast with the Jaguar Fpace News Talks envy.

1556
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: Now since Chemists Warehouse opened their first store, Saint Luke's

1557
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: that was twenty seventeen, they promised with the promipts of

1558
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: it are very simple, affordable and accessible healthcare for all

1559
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 2: of us. Despite changes to the legislation by the way

1560
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Speaker 2: surrounding the reinstatement of the farm dollar prescription charge, their

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: commitment is unwavering to offer free prescriptions in every store

1562
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: every day, So whether you're in Toweronga or Timoru Chemists Warehouse,

1563
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: the team of pharmacists will be there to help you

1564
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: take on the day, and from Christ Judge to Cambridge,

1565
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: your local Chemist Warehouse pharmacists will be there till late,

1566
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: ready in waiting to offer you and you love one's

1567
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: friendly advice whenever you need it. Most so for the

1568
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: free scripts in every store every day and for trusted

1569
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: advice when and where you need it, you come on

1570
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: home to the Chemist Warehouse and to find out more

1571
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: or shop the unmeetable Chemist Warehouse range, you head in

1572
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: store or indeed online and most importantly both stop paying too.

1573
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: March with Chemist's Warehouse pasking.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

1575
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: The reference to Enna Delby is of course inventing Anna

1576
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: was a Netflix smash. Her real name Anasauric and she's

1577
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 2: a con woman. So she's competing and dancing with the

1578
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: stars with an ankle bracelet on. That would have been

1579
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: a new low, I would have thought, Mike. I went

1580
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: to Liam Gallagher at Nebworth two years ago. It was carnage.

1581
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: No cops or security ardhead over there too if they

1582
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: were Mike Kidston. So it goes by the way. Bill

1583
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 2: Shorten out of seemingly nowhere yesterday quit Australian politics. The

1584
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: Prime Minister who never was. Will get the detail from

1585
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 2: Steve Price's with us right after the news.

1586
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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show you can trust the Mike Hosking Breakfast

1587
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

1588
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: and rural news togsad be.

1589
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: Michael went to oasis when I was fourteen in another

1590
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 2: country and a fake id whatt an experience. Now thirty four,

1591
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: it's impressive. My matelift school at seventeen, fleu to Alaska,

1592
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: got a job in an Alaskan pipeline. Thank you, Lawrence. Mike,

1593
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: go to Manchester, go to visit the Coronation Street set

1594
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: in paorl Pint. I've done that. One of the great

1595
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: frills of my life. In fact, I've done it twice

1596
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: in the old set. They did an old set, the

1597
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 2: original set Grenada Television, and then they moved to a

1598
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: brand new, purpose built set, the only soap opera program

1599
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: in the entire world that had a specifically built set

1600
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: for that show and that show alone. Most sets are interchangeable,

1601
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: so they move walls and rooms, create root, all that

1602
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Coronation Street built their own twenty three

1603
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: minutes away from.

1604
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: The international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1605
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 16: That's the street, right, How are you or are neighbors?

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 7: Have you been to the street?

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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: Never been to the neighbors? Ramsey Street?

1609
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 7: Ramsey Street?

1610
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: Where is that? That's in Melbourne, isn't it?

1611
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 7: Glen Waverley and Melbourne.

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01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: I went to I've Got a Life. I'n like you,

1613
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 2: you know that's true. What I went to the Mooney

1614
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 2: Pond Street? Where was what's the Mooney Pond Street where

1615
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: day Med and Avidge came from.

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01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, just Mooney Pond. So I come down.

1617
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: I went to the street that was That was quite

1618
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: something because I love Dame d and Reverage and anyway,

1619
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: where was I Bill Shortened.

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 7: It was that out of the blue, pretty much out

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 7: of the blue. Yes, no one had predicted it. And

1622
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 7: he kept it very quiet and for good reason, because

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01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 7: he was one of the number of candidates to become

1624
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 7: the next vice chancellor of the University Australian National University

1625
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,879
Speaker 7: based in Canberra. What do you think a vice chancellor

1626
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,959
Speaker 7: of a university in Australia has paid.

1627
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 2: Six hundred and seventy five thousand.

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 7: Dollars one point one million Australian dollars he'll be on

1629
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 7: when he takes up the job. In February, former Labor

1630
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 7: leader of course, lost the unlosable election to Scott Morrison,

1631
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 7: then never really recovered. He then got sidelined. Anthony Alberize

1632
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 7: became Opposition leader and won in an election and he

1633
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 7: gave his old mate Bill short And of course Shorten

1634
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 7: comes from the right of the Labor Party and Anthony

1635
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 7: Alberanzi's from the far left. He gave him the job

1636
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 7: of fixing up the National Disability Insurance Scheme, which was

1637
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 7: about the cen Australia broke. And so I figured Bill,

1638
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 7: who's married, by the way, to the daughter of the

1639
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 7: former Governor General of Australia. He gave his friend and

1640
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 7: Bill the job of fix that, and Bill's looked at

1641
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 7: that and this has got here. However, I'm not going

1642
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 7: to be doing this forever. And someone said, why don't

1643
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 7: you become vice chancellor of AMU and we'll pay you

1644
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 7: one point one million dollars. He's going to stay around

1645
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 7: to February. He's going to recuse himself from cabinet decisions

1646
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 7: on higher education. There will be no by election, so

1647
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 7: I think that solves the question that you've been asking

1648
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 7: me all year. Women the election. It's going to be

1649
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 7: after February, so it's probably going to be an election

1650
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 7: in May next year.

1651
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 16: You would think.

1652
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 2: Good luck to him. And then we've got the union

1653
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 2: price and this thing won't go away. And I'm assuming

1654
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: from the union's point of view the ongoing court action

1655
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 2: isn't helping their mood.

1656
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 7: No, it's not. And John Setka made from the CFMAU.

1657
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 7: It's turned up two big built sites in Victoria this

1658
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 7: week unannounced, addressing up to six hundred workers on one

1659
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 7: of those sites. So even though he's been sacked as

1660
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 7: the boss at the union and the CFMEAU construction arms

1661
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 7: in administration set could just around doing whatever he wants

1662
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 7: to do. But the bigger problem for the PM is

1663
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 7: that they've been warned that another bunch of unions are

1664
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 7: going to work against the government in any election. Now

1665
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 7: you've got one hundred thousand members of a union called

1666
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 7: the Communications, Electrical and Plumbing Union. They voted yesterday to

1667
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 7: disaffiliate from the ACTU because of what's happened to their

1668
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 7: mates at the CFU. Now, unions donate huge amounts of

1669
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 7: money to labor, but more importantly, they donate feet and

1670
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 7: boots on the ground during election campaigns, like they have

1671
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 7: people knocking on doors, handing out how to vote cards

1672
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 7: and being quite intimidatory some stages during election day on

1673
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 7: the boots. So if the union movement completely pulls the plug,

1674
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 7: that'll be a big advantage, not for the opposition necessarily,

1675
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 7: but for the Greens. This is going to be one

1676
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 7: hell of an election.

1677
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I reckon, Hey, would you be

1678
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 2: still in town because you're about to go on holiday?

1679
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 2: Will you still be in town for the protest next week?

1680
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 7: No, I'll be on a plane out of here very

1681
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 7: early tomorrow morning. This protest is going to be massive.

1682
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 7: It's something called the Land Forces Military Expo. It's going

1683
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 7: to be held in the Exhibition Center, which is right

1684
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 7: in the middle of town. It's known as Jeff Shed

1685
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 7: because Jeff kennot good and the police have been given

1686
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 7: extra powers Mike. They can actually now demand that anyone

1687
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 7: in that protest has to remove a face mask and

1688
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 7: identify themselves. Now, these are powers the police haven't had

1689
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 7: in the past. We've all seen the pro Palestinian protests

1690
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 7: around the country and most of those protesters wear masks

1691
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 7: to hide their identity. Well, police will be todd up.

1692
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 7: You can do whatever you want to do. This is

1693
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 7: going to get extremely Ugly's why they're holding an expo

1694
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 7: like that in a public place like that is completely

1695
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 7: beyond me. The police resources required as huge and it

1696
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 7: will get very nasty and indeed, and I'm not looking

1697
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 7: forward to reading about it while I'm away.

1698
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: King Island Dairy. Is this an individual story in terms

1699
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: of they didn't run the company very well? Was this

1700
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: sort of more broad base to the Australian economy.

1701
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 7: Maybe the latter, but it came as a shock to

1702
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,480
Speaker 7: me yesterday. I Mean, I'm not a huge cheese consumers,

1703
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 7: but King Island brie. We all grew up on that cheese,

1704
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 7: and King Island itself is an absolutely sensational place. It's

1705
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 7: out in the middle of a bat strait, and of

1706
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 7: course what they've got there now was a couple of

1707
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 7: really sensational golf courses. But Saputo, which you would know, well,

1708
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 7: the massive dairy company, the Saputo company, has decided, well,

1709
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 7: we can't make a profit out of King Island Dairy

1710
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 7: and so what we're going to do is shut it down.

1711
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 7: And so their range of cheeses go. A lot of

1712
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 7: jobs on that island are connected to the dairy itself,

1713
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 7: and so it's not good news for anybody, especially someone

1714
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 7: like me who loves a nice bit of soft King

1715
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 7: Island brie.

1716
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, I have a little bit of fetter. When

1717
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: you get to Greece, where are you going all about

1718
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: Greece or just to a place in Greece?

1719
01:20:58,479 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 21: Oh?

1720
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 7: No, everywhere? Or five islands on the mainland in.

1721
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: The car have you been lived on?

1722
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 7: Next week, I'll be sitting sitting down, probably having a

1723
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 7: Greek coffee, playing game of backgammon, having a Greek salad, little.

1724
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: Little ritzina you ever had ritt sina?

1725
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 7: Yeah? Tastes like quick at that shocking.

1726
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: So have you been there before?

1727
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 7: I was there in nineteen seventy seven when Elvis presently died.

1728
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:24,799
Speaker 7: So that gives you hell.

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Speaker 11: I won't have help.

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Speaker 7: Not your favorite place.

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Speaker 2: It's like my sister lived at Santorini for a while

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Speaker 2: or one of those islands, and she she doesn't speak.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's nice in the sun. I mean you'll

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Speaker 2: get a tan and you know, have three weeks a

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Speaker 2: long time, Steve, you don't want to go to somewhere

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Speaker 2: modern like I don't know London or Rome or Milan

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Speaker 2: or no. Thanks fair enough? That good on you? All right,

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Speaker 2: go well mate, we'll catch up in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it pretty much as Steve Price Out of Australia

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Speaker 2: sixteen too.

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Speaker 2: In Away from was Puckle Street. Mike Truth, as he

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Speaker 2: came from Camberwell, only said it was Puckle Street because

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Speaker 2: it sounded funny. I'll take you with it. That that's

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Speaker 2: Dave Midner. Not sure where you were working at the time, Mike.

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01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 2: You interviewed Dave Gilmore back in eighty eight, when the

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Speaker 2: Floyd did a one off at Western Springs minus waters

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Speaker 2: on their monetary lapse of reason to a momentary laps

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01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: of the reason to I disagree with you. I don't

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Speaker 2: think I've ever interviewed Dave Gilmore an eighty eight. I

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Speaker 2: would have been in Dunedin either at Z b F

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Speaker 2: zed BE as it would have been called then, or

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Speaker 2: four exit, one of the other fires. At four EX

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Speaker 2: I certainly wouldn't have interviewed, and possibly if I at ZB,

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Speaker 2: I might have see you may be right, always open

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01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: to correction. So Allan Lickman, speaking of being correct, has

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Speaker 2: predicted he's become this nostri damer So what they called

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01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: the nostri Damas of the electoral system in America. He

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Speaker 2: picks everyone right, and he's got these thirteen keys. I'm

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01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: sure you've heard of him anyway. The thirteen keys are

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01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: all sorts of interesting things. Mid term gains, incumbency, primary contest,

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01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: third party, short term economy, long term economy, policy change,

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01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 2: social unrest, white House scandal, incumbent charisma, challenger charisma, foreign

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01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: policy failure, foreign policy success. And this goes back or

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01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: it's based on one hundred and twenty years of presidential

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01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: election outcomes, so he called Trump in twenty sixteen. He

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Speaker 2: became particularly famous at that point because very few people

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Speaker 2: outside of those who are obsessed were picking Trump to

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Speaker 2: actually win. And having been there in New York in

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01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen at the Center for Hillary Clinton, I can

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01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: tell you no one in that room thought she was

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01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: going to lose until, of course she did. So he

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01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: uses these what he calls keys, and the keys are

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01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: either true or false. So the White House Party gained

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01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: the House seats is one of his keys. In other words,

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01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,759
Speaker 2: in the midterms, So the midterm key, the White House

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: did better than many people thoughts, So that's a key

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01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: in favor of Harris. Incumbency as a key covers the

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: sitting president running for reelection. Biden, of course withdrew. So

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01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 2: that cost the Democrats this particular key because it's false.

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01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: So you can't have the key yourside because the incumbent's

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01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: not running. The White House Party avoided a primary contest

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01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: as part of the nomination process. That's a third key.

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01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: The short term economy, he says, or he argues, at

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01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: the moment, is strong. It's not in recession. That's a

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Speaker 2: key in the incumbent's favor. The long term economic growth

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01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: during the current presidential term has at least been as

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01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: good as the last two terms. Therefore, the long term

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01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: economic key is true. So you're building up the number

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: of keys in terms of Biden slash Harris. Social unrest

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01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 2: key is true. The scandal key, he argues, the controversy

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Speaker 2: surrounding Hunter Biden, for example, doesn't count within the scandal

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01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 2: key as it has to revolve around the president themselves,

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01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: not a family member. Donald Trump's has lost, rendering the

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Speaker 2: Democrats this year's winner is his conclusion. Trump cannot lose

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01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 2: he doesn't have enough keys. The incumbent charisma key is

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01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: a very high threshold, as the individual must be a

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Speaker 2: one in a generational broad inspirational candidates, so they don't

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 2: get that Harris hasn't met the standard. The challenger charisma

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01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: the eleventh key just because some people see Trump as

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01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: a god, he only appears to appeals to a narrow audience,

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01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: meaning the key is true. However, foreign policy, the foreign

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01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: policy keys could flip the whole outcome because the Biden

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01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: administration is deeply invested in the war in Gaza. But

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01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: even if both foreign policy keys flipped false. That would

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01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 2: mean that there were only five negative keys, which would

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01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: not be enough for Donald Trump to regain the White House. So,

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01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: in other words, reasonably comprehensibly, he is picking Karmela Harris

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01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: to win the election and he has never been wrong

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Speaker 2: nine to nine.

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Speaker 2: z asking Mike, You're never wrong either who you picking

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Speaker 2: right now, and I'm open to changing my mind obviously,

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Speaker 2: because it's very fluid right now. I think Harris will

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Speaker 2: win an. I think moderately comfortably five away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with them as well, Spring Frenzy.

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Speaker 11: Sale on now Go.

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01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: Probably they've gone and launch the latest action camera. It's

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01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: called the Hero thirteen black looks the same, but the

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Speaker 2: big noise is accessories. They've got a new magnetic Amount,

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Speaker 2: which I like. I don't have a go Pro and

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Speaker 2: I've got no interest, but if I had one, I'd

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 2: think a new magnetic amount would be quite a cool thing.

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Speaker 2: So you can change your tripods and your harnesses and

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 2: all that stuff a whole lot faster. The big news

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01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: is you've got lenses, and the lenses can come on

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01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 2: and off for a whole different look for the evids.

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Speaker 13: So you get a slight blur in the background.

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01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 7: Kind of cool thing.

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01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 9: Not something that I personally would use though, but good

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Speaker 9: option to.

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Speaker 11: Have if you want to make your action camera shots

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01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 11: look a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: So this is what looks like with the ultra wide

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Speaker 1: hyper view, which is just wild.

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Speaker 7: Wow do you see this?

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Speaker 11: Oh my god, take a look at my nose?

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Speaker 7: What they can basically just join hire studio just by

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Speaker 7: doing this.

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Speaker 2: Whow Okay. So that's a guy called Peter Lindgren, who

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Speaker 2: I'm assumers known to the authorities. Maybe not. So there's

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Speaker 2: a macro lens for close ups, a super duper ultra

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01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: wide lens. There's a whole lot of other lenses creates

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01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: cinematic styles and effects. The Hero thirteen Black that's available

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Speaker 2: pre order now for seven to fifty. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's written down here not bad. I don't know whether

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Speaker 2: that's bad or not.

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Speaker 9: Still, you know a lot of tech, you know, what

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Speaker 9: can you get for under a thousand bucks for some

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01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,839
Speaker 9: cool tech. I just sort of think that's that's reasonable.

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Speaker 2: So is that you saying it's not bad?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, that's me saying it's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you buy that for seven to fifty, will

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Speaker 2: you still be able to afford your new car?

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Speaker 9: It might be an either or situation.

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Speaker 2: Lenses are extra. There are about two fifty ish.

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Speaker 9: They've got this call anamorphic lens as well, which is

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01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 9: like the big one l like you see on movie cameras. Really,

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01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 9: so you know when you look at the sun and

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01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 9: you get that flaring effect.

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01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,759
Speaker 2: And that's on your bike, on a go probe, Yeah,

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01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 2: on your head. So you're walking around with an and

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 9: As big as the one on the movie cameras.

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Speaker 2: You're walking around with an anamorphic lens. Did you say

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 9: Gonna make you look cool while you're wearing it? I

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01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 9: said it was gonna make your videos look cool.

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Speaker 2: And you're the sort of person who would buy those goggles.

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Speaker 2: Zuckerbooks peddling as well. I bet you have an awesome weekend.

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Speaker 2: Back on Monday, as always, Happy Days.

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