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Speaker 3: Yes and Nick, You're to good afternoon. Welcome in toykend

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Speaker 3: Sport on News Talks EDB. For the seventh of March.

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Speaker 3: Happy seventy fourth birthday to one of the truly great

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Speaker 3: West Indian batsman, Cervivian Richards. Happy sixty sixth to eight

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Speaker 3: time Grand Slam winner Ivon Lendel and happy thirty first

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Speaker 3: to form the World darts champion Gerwin Price. I'm Jason Pine.

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Speaker 3: Show producer today is Mark Kelly. We are talking sport

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Speaker 3: with you until three o'clock this afternoon. The Warriors, what

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Speaker 3: about that? A statement to open their NRL season, thumping

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Speaker 3: the Roosters forty two eighteen and Auckland last night. They

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Speaker 3: led twenty two six at the breakpowd On with three

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Speaker 3: second half Trice seven and all forty two points to

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Speaker 3: eighteen over one of the I guess you'd say competition

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Speaker 3: favorites and one of the powerhouses of the NRL, the

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Speaker 3: Roosters Our year? Is it our year? Far too early

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Speaker 3: to say that it's only the seventh of March, but

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Speaker 3: we can talk about it. Tanner Boyd is on the

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Speaker 3: show with us after one o'clock and we'll talk warriors.

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Speaker 3: Then we lead off today though with the appointment on

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Speaker 3: Wednesday of Dave Rennie as All Blacks head coach. The

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Speaker 3: now we can all chat about it here on Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport as well. Kevin Milamu is standing by to chat

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Speaker 3: with us. He was part of the selection panel that

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Speaker 3: chose Dave Rennie over Jamie Joseph. He was also part

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Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty five review panel that eventually decided

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Speaker 3: upon a change. Kevin Milamu is going to be able

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Speaker 3: to offer us a unique view on both processes and

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Speaker 3: then very keen on your thoughts. Have we got the

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Speaker 3: time to get the All Blacks fit and firing for

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Speaker 3: a tilt at the Rugby World Cup in nineteen short

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Speaker 3: months from now. Other matters around today, the National Track

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Speaker 3: and Field Champs are on in Auckland Tom Walsh after

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Speaker 3: two o'clock as he targets a fifteenth New Zealand men's

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Speaker 3: shot put title. The season opening Australian Formula One Grand

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Speaker 3: Prix is tomorrow. Practice three is underway in the next

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Speaker 3: little while qualifying from just before six o'clock tonight. Going

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Speaker 3: to get you to Melbourne Park with Alex Powell and

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Speaker 3: New Zealand racing's newest show piece take center stage at

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Speaker 3: Allesley this afternoon the four million dollar end ZB keyweek.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Gordy going to join us to break that down

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Speaker 3: for us. Is there any universe in which well written

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Speaker 3: doesn't dried home to win her sixth straight race in

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Speaker 3: the NZB Key with this afternoon. Adam Peacock, out of

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Speaker 3: Australia as well in his regular slot, actually quite keen

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Speaker 3: to hear from Adam what the reaction has been to

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Speaker 3: Dave Reney's appointment over there, because of course he was

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Speaker 3: Wallaby's coach until he was unceremoniously dumped from that role.

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Speaker 3: At the start of twenty twenty three, Hamish mcclennan and

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Speaker 3: and we know how that worked out. So Adam Peacock

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Speaker 3: The New Zealand Iron Man is on in Topoor, one

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Speaker 3: of the strongest fields ever assembled. We'll get you there

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Speaker 3: with Brian Ashby and round six of eight in Plunket

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Speaker 3: Shield Men's Domestic Cricket. Just the one game underway today.

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Speaker 3: The All Blacks have a new head coach, Dave Rennie,

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Speaker 3: appointed this week following the departure of Scott Robertson. One

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Speaker 3: All Blacks hooker Kevin Melamu played a key role in

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Speaker 3: that process. He was part of the panel that reviewed

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Speaker 3: the team's performance in twenty twenty five and also part

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Speaker 3: new All Blacks head coach. Kevin Milamu is with us

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Speaker 3: on Weekend Sport. Kevin, thanks for your time. How close

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Speaker 3: in Dave Rennie's favor.

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Speaker 4: Some good questions there, I think, I think to start with, actually,

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Speaker 4: I can say we must be. We must be the

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Speaker 4: I want to think of our two candidates just really

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Speaker 4: And I also think from my time as being an

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Speaker 3: Was there something as well, Kevi and Dave Rennie's vision

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Speaker 4: I definitely think. I definitely think so all have been

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Speaker 4: is that he's been able to grow great culture and

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Speaker 3: How rigorous was the due diligence part of this. The

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was really lucky to I think in total

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Speaker 4: It was done well. And I think that's you know,

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Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of time and thoughts gone

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Speaker 3: As a former All Black yourself and double World Cup

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Speaker 3: with Dane Coles of course, who was also involved. What

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Speaker 4: I think there's a few things in that there's someone

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Speaker 4: I also think that when we talked to had a

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Speaker 4: plan of what the short runway looks like, you know,

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Speaker 4: leading into EAC eighteen months. But he he also said

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Speaker 4: So I think just it's a combination of things that

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Speaker 4: you look at but deepically look at what what they

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Speaker 3: Out once you got to the final part of this,

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Speaker 4: I feel, as we did the last interview, it was

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Speaker 3: Did you talk to the two of them about who

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's one of the things that we'll

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Speaker 4: there there's still management that are that are still there

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Speaker 6: That that we talk about, but.

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Speaker 4: In respect to those that are they're currently you want

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Speaker 3: The All Blacks have long drawn enormous strength from pacifica players.

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Speaker 3: How significant is it that Dave Rennie now becomes the

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Speaker 4: It's a very proud moment. You know, one of our

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Speaker 4: Rugby board, she was the first to say that she's

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Speaker 4: one of the one of the people for the Coclan

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Speaker 4: World domination just to see you know, it's like all things,

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Speaker 4: you know, when you get a chance to see some

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Speaker 3: Do you see a possible roll down the track for

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Speaker 3: It's been a very busy few months for you, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, I know anybody who's who's watched you play has

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Speaker 3: Actually, just to finish, you talked about the short runway

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Speaker 3: Congratulates Kevin on your part in this process, and thank

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Speaker 3: Kevin Milamu there quality human being. You've had three days

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Speaker 3: From what I can see, this appointment has been met

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Speaker 3: Does he have enough time? Well, I think he'd obviously

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Piney Yeah, I wholeheartedly good Keevin, Kevin me LAMI

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and he did say that the DVD recorder will

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Grant. Look and I get the feeling, Dave.

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Speaker 3: bring up their schedule here. I believe that that Grand

431
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Speaker 3: Final is at the back end of sorry front end

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Speaker 3: of June. So the final is on the seventh of

433
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Speaker 3: June over in Japan. So if the Kobe Steelers were

434
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Speaker 3: to make that, then I guess Dave and he could

435
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Speaker 3: come home on the eighth or ninth of June, stood

436
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Speaker 3: and he'd be back in time to watch the Semis

437
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Speaker 3: and the final of Super Rugby, pick a squad and

438
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Speaker 3: then get ready for France and christ Jurge on the

439
00:24:49,227 --> 00:24:52,227
Speaker 3: fourth of July. It is a tight time frame, but

440
00:24:52,667 --> 00:24:56,027
Speaker 3: it's what has been handed to him due to circumstance.

441
00:24:57,227 --> 00:25:00,107
Speaker 3: He has to cut his cloth to suit. That's the

442
00:25:00,147 --> 00:25:03,387
Speaker 3: hand he's been dealt. To use another analogy, Peter, hold

443
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Speaker 3: there with you after this. Eight hundred and eighty ten

444
00:25:05,307 --> 00:25:07,827
Speaker 3: eighties our number there if you want to pass comment

445
00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:10,547
Speaker 3: on Dave any or anything you heard from Kevin Milamu

446
00:25:10,747 --> 00:25:15,467
Speaker 3: or your assessment of the major priorities between now and

447
00:25:15,907 --> 00:25:18,347
Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup twenty twenty seven. Lines are open. Oh

448
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty back after.

449
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Speaker 1: This where the weekend's biggest calls for me, We can

450
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Speaker 1: sport with Jason Paine and GJ. Gardnomes, New Zealand's most

451
00:25:29,067 --> 00:25:30,347
Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

452
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Speaker 3: News talks that'd be summer just wouldn't be the same

453
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Speaker 3: without cricket. And while it might be stumps on the

454
00:25:35,787 --> 00:25:39,187
Speaker 3: holiday beach, cricket South Africa are in the country and

455
00:25:39,227 --> 00:25:41,867
Speaker 3: they're taking on our White Ferns and our Black Caps.

456
00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:43,547
Speaker 3: And look, we all know how it works. You check

457
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Speaker 3: the forecast about six times the day before. But he

458
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Speaker 3: is something pretty cool. If you've got a ticket to

459
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Speaker 3: a White Ferns All Black Caps match, and in the

460
00:25:52,227 --> 00:25:56,067
Speaker 3: unlikely event that a game in March is abandoned due

461
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Speaker 3: to rain, you're not given out because Brookvale Union have

462
00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:04,387
Speaker 3: this thing called reinsurance. Basically, you take your match ticket

463
00:26:04,747 --> 00:26:07,987
Speaker 3: into selected superlic A store the next day and you

464
00:26:08,107 --> 00:26:11,267
Speaker 3: can redeem it for a brook Vale Union price pack,

465
00:26:11,467 --> 00:26:13,987
Speaker 3: so you're still winning rain or shine, which means you

466
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Speaker 3: can head along back the team, soak up the atmosphere

467
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Speaker 3: and not spend the whole day stressing about the weather.

468
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Speaker 3: Radar rainsurance from Brookvale Union if it rains, they pour

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Speaker 3: weekend sport on News talks here, Peter, thanks for holding.

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, Hey Ponny, good afternoon. Hey Dave Briney, good choice.

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Speaker 8: I'm not really concerned about the white Noise wel cop

472
00:26:42,027 --> 00:26:45,267
Speaker 8: coming up next year and only three months to do

473
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Speaker 8: this and do that.

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Speaker 9: Bye.

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Speaker 8: When he had his press presser, I keeped it on

476
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Speaker 8: three words, pick on form and that made me physibit

477
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Speaker 8: because so father sat round of the Super twelve Sorry

478
00:27:04,267 --> 00:27:07,827
Speaker 8: super Rugby as has been amazing. Sixty points last night

479
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Speaker 8: from the cheap fifty points from the Hurricanes. These players

480
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Speaker 8: that are going to be playing themselves in, and there's

481
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Speaker 8: certainly going to be players that would have thought they

482
00:27:17,787 --> 00:27:19,867
Speaker 8: are in are now are going to be out. And

483
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Speaker 8: I really hope that Dave Sexters. I don't have any

484
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Speaker 8: allegiance to any particular club player of Jersey.

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Speaker 3: I think he will, yeah, Peter, I think he will.

486
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Speaker 3: And you've landed on such a great point and I

487
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Speaker 3: wonder you know whether whether a change in All Blacks coach.

488
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Speaker 3: In fact, I don't wonder. I'm almost certain that it

489
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Speaker 3: will reinvigorate every single player who's got designs on an

490
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Speaker 3: All Blacks jersey, because, as you've just said, Dave Renny

491
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Speaker 3: comes in, he'll pick on form no preconceived ideas. Has

492
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Speaker 3: worked with very few of these players in the past,

493
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Speaker 3: a couple of them during his time with the Chiefs

494
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Speaker 3: obviously and in Japan with Artie, you know, for example.

495
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Speaker 3: But I think you're right. I think any player who

496
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Speaker 3: was perhaps on the outer for the last couple of

497
00:28:06,587 --> 00:28:10,107
Speaker 3: years thinks to themselves, shivers, I've got a chance here,

498
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Speaker 3: and anybody who's been arrusted on selection in the last

499
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Speaker 3: couple of years cannot rest on their laurels because it's

500
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Speaker 3: a different coach now.

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Speaker 8: And the other thing I'm thinking is it's going to

502
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Speaker 8: put this Richie my one story to sleep. You know,

503
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Speaker 8: I'm liking Cambiller at the Highlanders at the moment, and

504
00:28:29,787 --> 00:28:33,507
Speaker 8: you know, I just think that I think it's exciting.

505
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Speaker 8: I reckon it's great, and you know, I just really

506
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Speaker 8: hope he sticks to those those three foods that are

507
00:28:41,667 --> 00:28:45,387
Speaker 8: used in as pressure. And I think rugby will be

508
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Speaker 8: in a good shape again. And you know, I look

509
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Speaker 8: back to that World Cup in France and who was

510
00:28:51,267 --> 00:28:54,587
Speaker 8: the outside bolter and that team that he build, a

511
00:28:54,627 --> 00:28:58,267
Speaker 8: Scot and look what he did for those those games

512
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Speaker 8: for hility was outstanding that other and than last year

513
00:29:03,107 --> 00:29:08,507
Speaker 8: Famian Holland as our bolt. We haven't really had it

514
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Speaker 8: outside expect the guy that has been appointed and just

515
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Speaker 8: run with it. You know, I think it's we've been

516
00:29:16,587 --> 00:29:20,947
Speaker 8: too too safe. You know, let's get some went's under

517
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Speaker 8: the belt before we go out there and experiment. But

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Speaker 8: I'm just ad to work. David's like, let's get out

519
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Speaker 8: of the gate running and felt around what we have

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Speaker 8: and go from there. Forget about last week last again. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's my two cents.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you who the near mill the Scuna might

523
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Speaker 3: be this year Peter or for next year. And he's

524
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Speaker 3: a mate or he's a teammate of Camilla who you mentioned,

525
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Speaker 3: and that's Caleb Tungata. I've loved what I've seen from

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Speaker 3: him on the wing for the Highlanders. Before you go,

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Speaker 3: I'm and to ask you one question. I'm gonna and

528
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold you to the answer if

529
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Speaker 3: it doesn't come true. But for the first Test of

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Speaker 3: this year Saturday, the fourth of July against France and

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Speaker 3: christ Church, who has the number ten jersey in that

532
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Speaker 3: Test match?

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Speaker 8: If he continues the way he's doing, I'm gonna say

534
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Speaker 8: hopefully it will be Chandler with vote of Baron as

535
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Speaker 8: the reserve. Yes, he has a good season.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Peter. As I say, i'm gonna

537
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna hold you to it. I will expect

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Speaker 3: your call. I'll expect your call on the fourth of

539
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Speaker 3: July when we broadcast from christ Church and you and

540
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Speaker 3: I can have a chat about who actually is wearing

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Speaker 3: the ten jumper if you.

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Speaker 8: Like, I'll i'll thank you to that word.

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Speaker 3: Good on your Peter, drive safe, oh eight hundred and

544
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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. It's a bloke called Damien McKenzie who

545
00:30:43,707 --> 00:30:46,347
Speaker 3: might ever thing to say as well. And while your

546
00:30:46,387 --> 00:30:49,827
Speaker 3: points very valid in terms of I pick on form.

547
00:30:49,907 --> 00:30:53,067
Speaker 3: Dave Rennie was the first bloke to pick Damien McKenzie

548
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Speaker 3: for the Chiefs. You'll remember back in twenty fifteen, Damien

549
00:30:57,307 --> 00:30:59,587
Speaker 3: McKenzie was brought into the Chiefs for the first time.

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Speaker 3: By twenty sixteen, he was the first choice first five

551
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Speaker 3: at that franchise, and Dave Rennie was there for one

552
00:31:05,027 --> 00:31:09,027
Speaker 3: more year after that. So Damien McKenzie and Dave Rennie

553
00:31:09,507 --> 00:31:14,667
Speaker 3: do have history, a very very good history, Jamie.

554
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Speaker 6: Hi Matey Jason. Yeah, it must have been a really,

555
00:31:19,187 --> 00:31:23,227
Speaker 6: really tough choice between two outstanding candidates. But but I'm

556
00:31:23,267 --> 00:31:28,107
Speaker 6: happy for Davia. I feel like it's a really this

557
00:31:28,187 --> 00:31:31,707
Speaker 6: is quite a solid appointment, and it's there's probably something

558
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Speaker 6: that sort of like has a bit of that people

559
00:31:35,547 --> 00:31:38,867
Speaker 6: are happy with, and it's sort of unified behind rather

560
00:31:38,907 --> 00:31:42,147
Speaker 6: than just give it to the fuzzy Vasa days, now

561
00:31:42,187 --> 00:31:44,667
Speaker 6: we're just there. Just there was one Kemp for Fozzy

562
00:31:44,707 --> 00:31:47,907
Speaker 6: and one kempt for for Rasa. But now it's like

563
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Speaker 6: it's it's unified, which I think is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I do remember, though, Jamie, when Razor was appointed, even

565
00:31:54,187 --> 00:31:55,747
Speaker 3: though you know, there was a lot of chat about

566
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Speaker 3: the process, and they've freely admitted in the time since

567
00:31:58,507 --> 00:32:01,387
Speaker 3: that the process was done was done terribly. I do

568
00:32:01,507 --> 00:32:05,547
Speaker 3: remember there being two years ago a pretty strong sense

569
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Speaker 3: that the right outcome had been reached, that Razor was

570
00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:11,627
Speaker 3: our guy, had given you know, had had built up

571
00:32:11,627 --> 00:32:13,707
Speaker 3: this body of work at the Crusaders. It was time

572
00:32:13,747 --> 00:32:15,307
Speaker 3: for him to take over. He was going to come

573
00:32:15,347 --> 00:32:17,787
Speaker 3: in and sweep us forward to the next World Cup.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hindsight's a wonderful thing, but I know I did.

575
00:32:20,467 --> 00:32:21,827
Speaker 3: I know, I thought it was the right call. I've

576
00:32:21,827 --> 00:32:23,827
Speaker 3: seen I said today, Dave Rennie is the right call,

577
00:32:23,907 --> 00:32:26,347
Speaker 3: and I believe that. But I believe that Scott Robertson

578
00:32:26,387 --> 00:32:28,467
Speaker 3: was the right call too, So you know, we don't

579
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Speaker 3: always get these things right to we.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably was in the camp too, but yeah,

581
00:32:33,147 --> 00:32:38,827
Speaker 6: but yeah, and also just for the with the question

582
00:32:38,987 --> 00:32:41,667
Speaker 6: is whether they have enough time for the next World Cup,

583
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Speaker 6: We're probably just I think we I think, yeah, two

584
00:32:44,787 --> 00:32:47,467
Speaker 6: years are still enough. I mean, any I say it

585
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:50,307
Speaker 6: was about a year, I say it was about one year.

586
00:32:50,307 --> 00:32:52,707
Speaker 6: There was coming, they'll be coming it really fine, but

587
00:32:52,787 --> 00:32:56,267
Speaker 6: done two years is fine. I mean, look what the

588
00:32:56,307 --> 00:33:00,107
Speaker 6: example of South Africa when when Ressi took over before

589
00:33:00,147 --> 00:33:03,307
Speaker 6: they won in twenty nineteen, there was what about two

590
00:33:03,387 --> 00:33:06,747
Speaker 6: years before that he took over and then they obviously

591
00:33:07,307 --> 00:33:11,467
Speaker 6: obviously won't it. So I mean, yeah, it's going to

592
00:33:11,507 --> 00:33:15,067
Speaker 6: be a really obviously, really tough introduction for day Rennie

593
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Speaker 6: with the with the twur to South Africa. You don't

594
00:33:17,667 --> 00:33:19,707
Speaker 6: give m it's tougher than that. But I mean, I'm

595
00:33:19,787 --> 00:33:23,387
Speaker 6: just hoping to see that we'll you know that were

596
00:33:23,507 --> 00:33:26,947
Speaker 6: just our performances will in our standards will just trend

597
00:33:26,947 --> 00:33:29,987
Speaker 6: in the right direction. I mean results. I mean, if

598
00:33:30,027 --> 00:33:32,347
Speaker 6: we get a win or two against them, that's that'll

599
00:33:32,387 --> 00:33:35,707
Speaker 6: be great. But yeah, it's it's probably just how we

600
00:33:37,067 --> 00:33:40,307
Speaker 6: it's are we just see how we our performances improve.

601
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Speaker 6: That's what I feel.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, it's a great it's a great set of thoughts, Jamie,

603
00:33:45,307 --> 00:33:46,987
Speaker 3: thanks for sharing them with us. Mate, look forward to

604
00:33:47,027 --> 00:33:49,467
Speaker 3: chatting off and across the next year in a bit

605
00:33:49,507 --> 00:33:50,787
Speaker 3: to see if they do have the runway and the

606
00:33:51,147 --> 00:33:53,867
Speaker 3: rest of arrestmus example is a great example because in

607
00:33:53,907 --> 00:33:57,947
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, you'll remember this, the All Blacks hammered South

608
00:33:57,987 --> 00:34:02,107
Speaker 3: Africa fifty seven nil at Albany in twenty seventeen. Two

609
00:34:02,187 --> 00:34:04,867
Speaker 3: years later they were world champions. Four years after that

610
00:34:04,907 --> 00:34:09,627
Speaker 3: they were world champions again. So the runway is long

611
00:34:09,787 --> 00:34:14,827
Speaker 3: enough if you use it correctly. That's Dave Rennie's big challenge.

612
00:34:15,307 --> 00:34:17,747
Speaker 3: How does he get the best possible use out of

613
00:34:17,747 --> 00:34:21,387
Speaker 3: a truncated runway towards the next Rugby World Cup. It'll

614
00:34:21,387 --> 00:34:24,587
Speaker 3: be fascinating to observe. Thanks Jamie. Sixteen away from one,

615
00:34:24,667 --> 00:34:27,467
Speaker 3: mark with you after this spareline, we'll talk rugby till one,

616
00:34:27,547 --> 00:34:30,787
Speaker 3: Warriors after one tenor boy're gonna join us after one?

617
00:34:30,827 --> 00:34:32,707
Speaker 3: Then I want to hear from you Warriors fans, Come on,

618
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Speaker 3: what about that? But rugby until one? Back in a

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Speaker 3: moment on Weekend Sports. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 3: TALKSV thirteen Away from One from Chris on Textpine, Is

624
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Speaker 3: this the first time an ex Ossie coach has become

625
00:34:55,387 --> 00:34:57,627
Speaker 3: the All Blacks coach? Pretty sure it is, Chris? Yeah,

626
00:34:57,667 --> 00:35:00,707
Speaker 3: can't think of another one. Can't think of another coach

627
00:35:00,747 --> 00:35:03,027
Speaker 3: who has coached the Wallabies and then gone on to

628
00:35:03,107 --> 00:35:05,907
Speaker 3: coach the All Blacks. Pretty sure? Dave Rennie is the

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Speaker 3: first one.

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Speaker 6: Can I?

631
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Speaker 7: Mike Hey?

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Speaker 10: Piney?

633
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

634
00:35:09,947 --> 00:35:11,987
Speaker 10: I wonder if Tony Brown was in the picture where

635
00:35:12,347 --> 00:35:15,347
Speaker 10: Jamie would have gotten the nod over Dave Renier. I

636
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Speaker 10: think he might have sort of almost like a team

637
00:35:17,987 --> 00:35:19,827
Speaker 10: winn't they And the fact that he went to Africa

638
00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:23,507
Speaker 10: is yeah, probably couldn't get out of that contract. But yeah, no,

639
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Speaker 10: I think it's I think either of those two guys

640
00:35:25,747 --> 00:35:27,947
Speaker 10: would have been you know, pretty good appointment. I mean,

641
00:35:28,187 --> 00:35:30,347
Speaker 10: obviously Dave Rennie, I'm from the run of a Turn.

642
00:35:30,987 --> 00:35:35,027
Speaker 10: He sort of resurrected a sort of very sad, sad

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Speaker 10: rugby team, you know, and he sort of brought it

644
00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:40,587
Speaker 10: back to life really. But I think David Kirk is

645
00:35:40,987 --> 00:35:43,707
Speaker 10: a real difference maker and the choice he made to

646
00:35:43,707 --> 00:35:46,787
Speaker 10: get rid of Razor was a bold choice, you know,

647
00:35:46,907 --> 00:35:50,147
Speaker 10: coming in it's probably one of the most boldest decisions

648
00:35:50,147 --> 00:35:53,147
Speaker 10: I've seen from sort of at any level of rugby

649
00:35:53,187 --> 00:35:54,987
Speaker 10: for someone to come in and fire him like that.

650
00:35:55,067 --> 00:35:57,947
Speaker 10: And he's obviously thought, well, with this guy in charge,

651
00:35:57,987 --> 00:36:00,147
Speaker 10: we're probably not going to win the next World Cup.

652
00:36:00,187 --> 00:36:03,307
Speaker 10: And I mean he's got the background and he's obviously

653
00:36:03,347 --> 00:36:06,747
Speaker 10: got you know, super intelligence to make these decisions, I think,

654
00:36:06,787 --> 00:36:10,547
Speaker 10: and back their coach to me, I think that's probably

655
00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:12,867
Speaker 10: the biggest piece of the puzzle for me for all

656
00:36:12,907 --> 00:36:15,987
Speaker 10: Black success, because I think some things probably needed a change.

657
00:36:15,987 --> 00:36:20,427
Speaker 3: To be honest, what sort of CEO, then, do you

658
00:36:20,507 --> 00:36:24,867
Speaker 3: think would work best under David Kirk? Because he's effectively

659
00:36:24,947 --> 00:36:29,027
Speaker 3: acting as a CEO, isn't he an executive chairman? A

660
00:36:29,027 --> 00:36:31,947
Speaker 3: lot of chairs on boards, not just in sport, but

661
00:36:32,027 --> 00:36:34,547
Speaker 3: in all sorts of business. Mark really just leave it

662
00:36:34,587 --> 00:36:37,587
Speaker 3: to the CEO. They let the CEO run the operation,

663
00:36:37,827 --> 00:36:40,667
Speaker 3: They set the strategy as a board and they get

664
00:36:40,787 --> 00:36:43,347
Speaker 3: regular updates from the CEO on how it's going. In

665
00:36:43,347 --> 00:36:45,867
Speaker 3: the absence of a CEO, David Kirk's been doing all that.

666
00:36:45,947 --> 00:36:48,387
Speaker 3: So what kind of CEO are they going to bring

667
00:36:48,427 --> 00:36:50,747
Speaker 3: in under him?

668
00:36:51,227 --> 00:36:54,267
Speaker 10: I think he'll be more hands on like Kirk, and

669
00:36:54,387 --> 00:36:56,867
Speaker 10: whoever he appoints, he's going to get someone who can

670
00:36:56,867 --> 00:37:00,427
Speaker 10: work pretty closely was to achieve their objectives that he wants,

671
00:37:00,467 --> 00:37:03,547
Speaker 10: because you know, I mean, he's a Rugby World Cup winner,

672
00:37:03,627 --> 00:37:06,187
Speaker 10: he's a player, he you know, and he's had a

673
00:37:06,747 --> 00:37:09,747
Speaker 10: pretty successful career. I mean, you know, I don't think

674
00:37:09,787 --> 00:37:13,067
Speaker 10: you could ask for anyone probably better. And I'm maybe

675
00:37:13,107 --> 00:37:15,467
Speaker 10: being a little bit critical of the last regime with

676
00:37:15,547 --> 00:37:18,307
Speaker 10: the whole Foster Fiesco, but yeah, I don't think we're

677
00:37:18,307 --> 00:37:20,787
Speaker 10: going to get that same Fiesco. I think he's going

678
00:37:20,827 --> 00:37:23,427
Speaker 10: to make decisions and stick with them, and yeah, stick

679
00:37:23,467 --> 00:37:26,187
Speaker 10: by the people he picks with. You know, I think

680
00:37:26,187 --> 00:37:29,107
Speaker 10: he's a good decision maker. So yeah, I don't know

681
00:37:29,107 --> 00:37:32,107
Speaker 10: who you're picking, CEO, but I've sort of got quite

682
00:37:32,107 --> 00:37:33,907
Speaker 10: a bit of faith in this guy. The way he's acted.

683
00:37:34,067 --> 00:37:37,267
Speaker 10: I mean, the rais of decision came from like so

684
00:37:37,387 --> 00:37:39,027
Speaker 10: far out of the blue. I mean it just blew

685
00:37:39,067 --> 00:37:40,707
Speaker 10: me away. I don't know whether it blew you away,

686
00:37:40,747 --> 00:37:43,267
Speaker 10: but it was quite a bold move. What do you think?

687
00:37:43,507 --> 00:37:46,267
Speaker 3: Oh no, I wasn't expecting it at all. No. I

688
00:37:46,267 --> 00:37:48,747
Speaker 3: mean the odd thing, though, Mark, is you look back

689
00:37:48,787 --> 00:37:50,507
Speaker 3: in hindsight now and you think, okay, well you can

690
00:37:50,507 --> 00:37:53,547
Speaker 3: see why they made the call. They talked about trajectory

691
00:37:53,667 --> 00:37:55,987
Speaker 3: and how you know there hadn't been improvement. It certainly

692
00:37:56,027 --> 00:37:59,067
Speaker 3: wasn't based on the numbers nineteen wins and seven losses,

693
00:37:59,267 --> 00:38:01,907
Speaker 3: you know, seventy percent. It's got nothing to do with

694
00:38:01,987 --> 00:38:05,427
Speaker 3: the win loss record. It was the trajectory. And I'm

695
00:38:06,027 --> 00:38:10,587
Speaker 3: like you, I it's obvious David Kirk has is a

696
00:38:10,627 --> 00:38:15,907
Speaker 3: strong willed, firm leader who isn't scared of making the

697
00:38:16,067 --> 00:38:20,587
Speaker 3: tough decisions and having uncomfortable conversations.

698
00:38:22,587 --> 00:38:25,027
Speaker 10: Now it'll be an interesting year anyway. Finally, and maybe

699
00:38:25,107 --> 00:38:27,507
Speaker 10: Dat might get the night at number ten less as

700
00:38:27,507 --> 00:38:32,987
Speaker 10: you said with him.

701
00:38:31,267 --> 00:38:32,987
Speaker 3: I thought he was good last night, Mark. I thought

702
00:38:32,987 --> 00:38:34,627
Speaker 3: it was really good last night for a guy who

703
00:38:34,947 --> 00:38:39,307
Speaker 3: hasn't played since well back into last year. Has has

704
00:38:39,347 --> 00:38:41,867
Speaker 3: just become a new dad, And anybody who's become a

705
00:38:41,947 --> 00:38:45,067
Speaker 3: parent knows what those first few weeks are like. You

706
00:38:45,227 --> 00:38:47,067
Speaker 3: just hang on for dear life, don't You don't even

707
00:38:47,107 --> 00:38:49,387
Speaker 3: know what date is? Half the time your sleep when

708
00:38:49,387 --> 00:38:52,347
Speaker 3: you can. Any thought of doing any regular exercise kind

709
00:38:52,347 --> 00:38:54,987
Speaker 3: of goes out the window unless you're out pushing the pram.

710
00:38:55,387 --> 00:38:58,107
Speaker 3: But Damien McKenzie came back into that game last night

711
00:38:58,147 --> 00:39:00,947
Speaker 3: and looked like he hadn't been away. He didn't look

712
00:39:01,027 --> 00:39:03,747
Speaker 3: like he'd been away at all, sort of slotted back

713
00:39:03,747 --> 00:39:05,227
Speaker 3: in and he was kicking well. He played the eighty

714
00:39:05,267 --> 00:39:07,147
Speaker 3: minister and I don't think he went went back to

715
00:39:07,147 --> 00:39:11,427
Speaker 3: fall back when Josh Jacob came on. Yeah, he has

716
00:39:11,507 --> 00:39:14,507
Speaker 3: to be well, of course he is. He Boden Barrett,

717
00:39:14,507 --> 00:39:17,587
Speaker 3: who I think is due back. I think he's playing tonight, isn't.

718
00:39:17,587 --> 00:39:20,187
Speaker 3: He's off the bench tonight for the Blues. Boden Barrett

719
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Speaker 3: and then Richie Morgan when he arrives after the Japanese season.

720
00:39:22,947 --> 00:39:25,867
Speaker 3: So three horse race for that number ten jersey. You

721
00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:28,427
Speaker 3: know it's really and we're going to add Cam Milleran

722
00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:32,067
Speaker 3: as well from our previous caller, so so you know

723
00:39:32,467 --> 00:39:34,267
Speaker 3: there's a decision to be made there. I would not

724
00:39:34,307 --> 00:39:36,907
Speaker 3: be at all surprised if it's Damien mackenzie and the

725
00:39:36,947 --> 00:39:39,947
Speaker 3: ten jersey in that very first test against France. A

726
00:39:39,947 --> 00:39:42,027
Speaker 3: couple of texts before we go to the break pine,

727
00:39:42,027 --> 00:39:43,587
Speaker 3: he says, Bert, I've had the pleasure of spending a

728
00:39:43,587 --> 00:39:46,467
Speaker 3: few hours talking with Dave Rennie on a couple of occasions.

729
00:39:46,787 --> 00:39:49,667
Speaker 3: As well as his amazing methods of building team culture,

730
00:39:50,027 --> 00:39:53,107
Speaker 3: he is a very very good manager of people and

731
00:39:53,187 --> 00:39:56,987
Speaker 3: he builds a very detailed understanding of players strengths and

732
00:39:57,067 --> 00:39:59,907
Speaker 3: weaknesses and how to get the best out of them.

733
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Bert, Jason all the hot air expressed over

734
00:40:03,267 --> 00:40:06,627
Speaker 3: recent weeks by the majority in backing Jamie Joseph as

735
00:40:06,627 --> 00:40:09,507
Speaker 3: the front runner. Yet the smart people lined up the

736
00:40:09,507 --> 00:40:13,067
Speaker 3: CVS and experience etc. Very early and it was very

737
00:40:13,147 --> 00:40:16,507
Speaker 3: clear it was a one horse race with Dave Rennie

738
00:40:16,547 --> 00:40:20,347
Speaker 3: hands down the only choice. Just shows that those who

739
00:40:20,427 --> 00:40:25,347
Speaker 3: think they know know not much of poweraphrase that coming

740
00:40:25,427 --> 00:40:26,707
Speaker 3: up seven to one News Talks.

741
00:40:26,627 --> 00:40:30,547
Speaker 2: B analyzing the plays and getting the insight.

742
00:40:30,947 --> 00:40:35,427
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News Talks MB four to one.

743
00:40:35,467 --> 00:40:37,747
Speaker 3: Final texts from Barrie. I think the South African Tour,

744
00:40:37,867 --> 00:40:39,667
Speaker 3: although tough, is a great chance for Rennie to get

745
00:40:39,667 --> 00:40:41,627
Speaker 3: his foundations for the team in place early. He'll get

746
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:43,507
Speaker 3: plenty of time of the players than he would on

747
00:40:43,547 --> 00:40:46,027
Speaker 3: a Northern tour. He's got more quality time than he

748
00:40:46,067 --> 00:40:48,947
Speaker 3: would normally in the two years. He said he knew

749
00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:51,787
Speaker 3: how he wanted his team to play, so it'll be

750
00:40:51,787 --> 00:40:54,187
Speaker 3: about finding those that fit the plan. I also wonder

751
00:40:54,227 --> 00:40:56,907
Speaker 3: if bringing Brodie back, and I've seen that suggested a

752
00:40:56,947 --> 00:41:00,227
Speaker 3: lot and possibly making him captain, says Bowie, could be

753
00:41:00,227 --> 00:41:02,307
Speaker 3: a way to bring the team together under a hugely

754
00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:05,587
Speaker 3: respected player who has no baggage with the current players

755
00:41:05,587 --> 00:41:09,707
Speaker 3: over the last two year. Thanks Baser. Yeah, the whole

756
00:41:09,707 --> 00:41:11,947
Speaker 3: Brody metallic thing was a bit of a It kind

757
00:41:11,947 --> 00:41:13,467
Speaker 3: of had a left field, wasn't it. He got name

758
00:41:13,547 --> 00:41:16,387
Speaker 3: dropped by Dave Renny. I wonder whether Brody's coming back.

759
00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:19,067
Speaker 3: I would say no, but then you know, I thought

760
00:41:19,107 --> 00:41:21,867
Speaker 3: Razer was the right coach. So we all have our

761
00:41:21,947 --> 00:41:24,547
Speaker 3: views and they, you know, sometimes tend to be wrong.

762
00:41:25,187 --> 00:41:27,827
Speaker 3: After one o'clock, Tanner Boyd up the Wise.

763
00:41:29,107 --> 00:41:32,987
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

764
00:41:33,307 --> 00:41:38,187
Speaker 1: the big controversies, and the big conversations. It's all on

765
00:41:38,307 --> 00:41:42,187
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home with Sport

766
00:41:42,467 --> 00:41:43,467
Speaker 1: News Talks eNB.

767
00:41:44,587 --> 00:41:46,627
Speaker 3: One oh seven. Welcome in, Welcome back, as the case

768
00:41:46,667 --> 00:41:49,427
Speaker 3: ab I'm Jason Pine Mark Kelly is running the cutter today.

769
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Speaker 3: This is Weekend Sport until three. Tanner Boyd standing by

770
00:41:53,227 --> 00:41:55,027
Speaker 3: the chap to us what a game from him last night?

771
00:41:55,067 --> 00:41:57,747
Speaker 3: In fact, what a game from everybody in a Warrior's

772
00:41:57,747 --> 00:42:00,107
Speaker 3: shirt last night in front of a very good crowd

773
00:42:00,667 --> 00:42:04,307
Speaker 3: against a pretty good opponent, the Roosters. If you said

774
00:42:04,307 --> 00:42:06,307
Speaker 3: to Andrew Webster start of the week, you'll put four

775
00:42:06,547 --> 00:42:10,107
Speaker 3: on them and win comfortably, he would have bitten your

776
00:42:10,107 --> 00:42:12,027
Speaker 3: hand off for that. I see he said last night.

777
00:42:12,067 --> 00:42:14,867
Speaker 3: Where you know, we're not totally satisfied, And of course

778
00:42:14,867 --> 00:42:17,867
Speaker 3: that's what coaches say. You can't, you know, you can't

779
00:42:17,907 --> 00:42:20,747
Speaker 3: put all your eggs into around one basket, can you

780
00:42:20,787 --> 00:42:22,787
Speaker 3: and say we're going to win the comp? Well, the coaches.

781
00:42:22,827 --> 00:42:24,907
Speaker 3: Can't we can though, can't we? We can get a

782
00:42:24,907 --> 00:42:28,827
Speaker 3: bit excited about this, can't we. I loved that last night.

783
00:42:29,347 --> 00:42:31,907
Speaker 3: I loved watching that. It was a tough night for

784
00:42:32,187 --> 00:42:35,547
Speaker 3: what to watch, wasn't it, Because you had the Chiefs

785
00:42:35,547 --> 00:42:38,027
Speaker 3: more on a pacifica underway at seven. The Warriors came

786
00:42:38,067 --> 00:42:39,707
Speaker 3: on at eight, so at that stage I was kind

787
00:42:39,707 --> 00:42:42,427
Speaker 3: of double screening to, you know, to try and catch

788
00:42:42,467 --> 00:42:44,427
Speaker 3: both of those. When the rugby finished, I was full

789
00:42:44,467 --> 00:42:47,147
Speaker 3: on with the Warriors. But then at nine point thirty

790
00:42:47,507 --> 00:42:50,867
Speaker 3: the Hurricanes war retar started and the Phoenix against Adelaide,

791
00:42:50,987 --> 00:42:53,907
Speaker 3: so I had I needed three screens to try and

792
00:42:53,987 --> 00:42:57,347
Speaker 3: keep up with everything. Anyway, I digress Tanner Boyd shortly

793
00:42:57,467 --> 00:43:00,427
Speaker 3: a couple of texts to mop up around our discussion

794
00:43:00,427 --> 00:43:03,147
Speaker 3: in the first hour. Pot of this may sound a

795
00:43:03,187 --> 00:43:05,227
Speaker 3: little bit left field, but I'd like David Kirk to

796
00:43:05,227 --> 00:43:09,027
Speaker 3: appoint another chair and take the CEO job himself. Therefore

797
00:43:09,027 --> 00:43:11,907
Speaker 3: he will be hands on better for the new regime. Yeah,

798
00:43:12,027 --> 00:43:14,827
Speaker 3: I've heard that suggested as well. I just wonder whether

799
00:43:14,907 --> 00:43:17,667
Speaker 3: David Kirk wants the job. He'd have to relocate. I

800
00:43:17,667 --> 00:43:19,467
Speaker 3: think he lives in Sydney at the moment, he'd have

801
00:43:19,507 --> 00:43:21,347
Speaker 3: to relocate to New Zealand. You can't be CEO of

802
00:43:21,347 --> 00:43:23,907
Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby and not live in New Zealand. And

803
00:43:24,147 --> 00:43:26,307
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he wants it, but he will certainly,

804
00:43:27,667 --> 00:43:30,147
Speaker 3: I think have a big say clearly and who the

805
00:43:30,187 --> 00:43:33,547
Speaker 3: CEO is and the type of CEO who he thinks

806
00:43:33,947 --> 00:43:36,707
Speaker 3: he can work best with. He shot himself, as I

807
00:43:36,707 --> 00:43:40,027
Speaker 3: said before one when Mark and I were talking, to

808
00:43:40,107 --> 00:43:44,547
Speaker 3: be a firm hand, a guy who doesn't mind the

809
00:43:45,027 --> 00:43:49,067
Speaker 3: tough conversations and the big decisions. So when they do

810
00:43:49,147 --> 00:43:52,027
Speaker 3: recruit the CEO, whenever that might be, it'll need to

811
00:43:52,067 --> 00:43:54,667
Speaker 3: be someone who can work under a chair like that, because,

812
00:43:54,667 --> 00:43:57,307
Speaker 3: as I say, not all chairs are like that, a

813
00:43:57,347 --> 00:43:59,347
Speaker 3: lot of chairs. Just let the CEO get on with it.

814
00:43:59,947 --> 00:44:01,587
Speaker 3: I set the strategy and say right here it is

815
00:44:01,627 --> 00:44:03,627
Speaker 3: if you go, keep us updated and call us if

816
00:44:03,667 --> 00:44:05,867
Speaker 3: you need us. That doesn't strike me as the way.

817
00:44:05,947 --> 00:44:10,307
Speaker 3: David cok W is Chair of New Zealand Rugby. Jason,

818
00:44:10,307 --> 00:44:13,147
Speaker 3: I've been listening to a show, says Brian, and the

819
00:44:13,227 --> 00:44:15,227
Speaker 3: talk about the appointment of the new All Blacks coach.

820
00:44:15,307 --> 00:44:17,307
Speaker 3: All the talk's been about a coach for the Rugby

821
00:44:17,307 --> 00:44:20,067
Speaker 3: World Cup, but we have a tour to South Africa

822
00:44:20,147 --> 00:44:23,827
Speaker 3: before then. I think everybody is disrespecting the South Africans

823
00:44:23,827 --> 00:44:27,067
Speaker 3: by not including them in the conversation. Will we accept

824
00:44:27,067 --> 00:44:29,507
Speaker 3: losses to the Springboks if this is part of the

825
00:44:29,547 --> 00:44:32,547
Speaker 3: pathway to a World Cup Brian To answer that last question,

826
00:44:32,627 --> 00:44:36,467
Speaker 3: I think the answer is unequivocally yes we will. If

827
00:44:36,667 --> 00:44:39,907
Speaker 3: in November or December next year, whenever the final is,

828
00:44:41,067 --> 00:44:43,707
Speaker 3: whoever the All Blacks captain is is thrusting the William

829
00:44:43,747 --> 00:44:47,707
Speaker 3: Webb Alice Trophy into the Melbourne sky, I don't think

830
00:44:47,747 --> 00:44:49,787
Speaker 3: it will matter at all what happens in South Africa

831
00:44:49,787 --> 00:44:52,707
Speaker 3: this year. I can't see us going to South Africa

832
00:44:52,707 --> 00:44:55,067
Speaker 3: and winning all four test matches, can you? But I

833
00:44:55,107 --> 00:44:57,867
Speaker 3: think if we show improvements when a couple of them

834
00:44:57,907 --> 00:45:02,627
Speaker 3: perhaps maybe square the series, and there's some intent and

835
00:45:02,667 --> 00:45:08,107
Speaker 3: there's some obvious improvement on that tour, then I think

836
00:45:08,147 --> 00:45:10,387
Speaker 3: we will be happy. And I don't think anybody's disrespecting

837
00:45:10,387 --> 00:45:13,027
Speaker 3: the South Africans. But we do work as far as

838
00:45:13,067 --> 00:45:16,307
Speaker 3: the All Blacks are concerned in World Cup chunks, don't

839
00:45:16,347 --> 00:45:21,267
Speaker 3: we in four year cycles? And as I say, nothing

840
00:45:21,267 --> 00:45:25,347
Speaker 3: that comes before a rugby World Cup really matters too

841
00:45:25,427 --> 00:45:29,747
Speaker 3: much once that Rugby World Cup arrives. I can't remember

842
00:45:29,787 --> 00:45:32,427
Speaker 3: much about the All Blacks results in two thousand and

843
00:45:32,547 --> 00:45:36,107
Speaker 3: nine or twenty ten, not too much really from twenty

844
00:45:36,147 --> 00:45:38,627
Speaker 3: thirteen or twenty fourteen. I couldn't give you a score line,

845
00:45:39,027 --> 00:45:40,347
Speaker 3: but I can give you a lot of school lines

846
00:45:40,347 --> 00:45:43,867
Speaker 3: from those Rugby World Cups. But I take your point, Brian,

847
00:45:44,347 --> 00:45:47,467
Speaker 3: I take your point. Incidentally, just before we move midday tomorrow,

848
00:45:48,467 --> 00:45:52,027
Speaker 3: the man who sacked Dave Rennie's on the show, Hamish mcclennan,

849
00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:55,387
Speaker 3: who was chair of Rugby Australia when they got rid

850
00:45:55,387 --> 00:45:57,467
Speaker 3: of Dave Rennie at the start of twenty twenty three

851
00:45:57,947 --> 00:46:00,867
Speaker 3: and brought Eddie Jones in for what proved to be

852
00:46:01,307 --> 00:46:04,587
Speaker 3: an absolute dumpster fire at the twenty twenty three Rugby

853
00:46:04,587 --> 00:46:06,027
Speaker 3: World Cup when he couldn't even get them out of

854
00:46:06,067 --> 00:46:10,507
Speaker 3: the poor So how is Hamish mcclennan feeling now seeing

855
00:46:10,547 --> 00:46:14,027
Speaker 3: the All Blacks a point or New Zealand Rugby a point?

856
00:46:14,107 --> 00:46:16,307
Speaker 3: Dave Reny is All Blacks head coach be fascinating their

857
00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:19,787
Speaker 3: hair his views. He's on the show tomorrow just after midday,

858
00:46:19,867 --> 00:46:22,627
Speaker 3: so that will be worth tuning in for I'm sure,

859
00:46:22,707 --> 00:46:26,227
Speaker 3: But let's move to the NRL and the Warriors, who

860
00:46:26,307 --> 00:46:29,667
Speaker 3: have opened their season in emphatic fashion.

861
00:46:30,387 --> 00:46:33,747
Speaker 11: Boyd coming across Tyning got the Titan o'clock.

862
00:46:33,507 --> 00:46:40,227
Speaker 12: Don tax Don Yes, the Warriors in the opening game

863
00:46:41,347 --> 00:46:44,427
Speaker 12: of the season for both these two teams.

864
00:46:44,947 --> 00:46:49,467
Speaker 3: The Warriors have beaten the Sydney Roosters here at go.

865
00:46:49,547 --> 00:46:55,147
Speaker 12: Media Mount Smart Stadium at Auckland forty two points to eighty.

866
00:46:55,347 --> 00:46:57,347
Speaker 3: Not just a beating, a hammering. Really, I think we

867
00:46:57,387 --> 00:47:00,587
Speaker 3: can call it that forty two eighteen at go Media Stadium,

868
00:47:00,587 --> 00:47:04,387
Speaker 3: a seven try performance to get their NRL campaign off

869
00:47:04,387 --> 00:47:06,187
Speaker 3: to a flyer. One of the key figures in the win,

870
00:47:06,627 --> 00:47:09,627
Speaker 3: half back Tanner Boyd, scored a try, controlled the game

871
00:47:09,707 --> 00:47:12,867
Speaker 3: superbly and piled on the points with the boots in

872
00:47:13,107 --> 00:47:17,027
Speaker 3: a commanding display in the number seven jersey, Tanner boy

873
00:47:17,147 --> 00:47:19,307
Speaker 3: joins us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for taking the time,

874
00:47:19,347 --> 00:47:21,947
Speaker 3: Tanner on what I'm sure is an afternoon off for you.

875
00:47:22,187 --> 00:47:25,907
Speaker 3: We do appreciate your time. That is about as good

876
00:47:25,907 --> 00:47:28,587
Speaker 3: a way to start a new season as you could

877
00:47:28,627 --> 00:47:31,147
Speaker 3: hope for us. And it how satisfying was that performance

878
00:47:31,227 --> 00:47:33,187
Speaker 3: and that result for the group.

879
00:47:34,387 --> 00:47:36,227
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was extremely satisfying, mate.

880
00:47:36,987 --> 00:47:39,387
Speaker 13: Yeah, obviously he works so hard in the preseason and

881
00:47:40,667 --> 00:47:43,027
Speaker 13: you try and try and work on the things that

882
00:47:43,107 --> 00:47:44,667
Speaker 13: you want to get better at, and to see it

883
00:47:44,707 --> 00:47:47,787
Speaker 13: come out on the weekend was obviously very pleasing and

884
00:47:48,627 --> 00:47:50,427
Speaker 13: definitely getting the monkey off the bat.

885
00:47:50,467 --> 00:47:52,107
Speaker 5: You always want to win that round one. So it

886
00:47:52,467 --> 00:47:53,267
Speaker 5: was really good, mate.

887
00:47:53,387 --> 00:47:55,307
Speaker 3: Was there anything in particular that came off the back

888
00:47:55,347 --> 00:47:57,507
Speaker 3: of you a couple of preseason games that was worked on,

889
00:47:57,627 --> 00:48:01,227
Speaker 3: particularly in the week leading into the first regular season

890
00:48:01,227 --> 00:48:01,907
Speaker 3: game last night?

891
00:48:02,787 --> 00:48:06,107
Speaker 13: Yeah, I feel from trials are resilience on the line

892
00:48:07,347 --> 00:48:10,067
Speaker 13: was pretty poor, so that that was a big focus

893
00:48:10,067 --> 00:48:12,507
Speaker 13: point going into the into the week, and I thought

894
00:48:12,507 --> 00:48:15,867
Speaker 13: we defended really well at times and obviously still things

895
00:48:15,867 --> 00:48:17,507
Speaker 13: we want to get better at and work on, but

896
00:48:18,347 --> 00:48:19,147
Speaker 13: for the majority of.

897
00:48:19,147 --> 00:48:22,347
Speaker 5: The game it was really good. So yeah, very pleased.

898
00:48:22,467 --> 00:48:24,227
Speaker 3: So you got the Warriors on the board early with

899
00:48:24,267 --> 00:48:26,747
Speaker 3: the first try, first try scorer of the new season.

900
00:48:26,987 --> 00:48:29,707
Speaker 3: How nice is it to make an impact like that,

901
00:48:29,867 --> 00:48:32,747
Speaker 3: like a material impact like that, so early on in

902
00:48:32,787 --> 00:48:33,987
Speaker 3: the game and in the season.

903
00:48:34,747 --> 00:48:35,227
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

904
00:48:35,267 --> 00:48:39,507
Speaker 13: It's obviously very very good, and yeah, it kind of

905
00:48:39,507 --> 00:48:42,587
Speaker 13: set the game up. I feel just kind of got

906
00:48:42,587 --> 00:48:46,147
Speaker 13: the momentum rolling and for my confidence as well. It

907
00:48:46,187 --> 00:48:50,827
Speaker 13: was obviously great and got me into my game. And yeah,

908
00:48:51,107 --> 00:48:53,067
Speaker 13: the more I'm running the foot I feel it, the

909
00:48:53,107 --> 00:48:54,547
Speaker 13: more I get into my game.

910
00:48:54,667 --> 00:48:56,987
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was very pleasing.

911
00:48:57,147 --> 00:49:00,147
Speaker 3: You look really composed running the side around last night. Man,

912
00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:02,867
Speaker 3: I mean, how comfortable are you feeling. I know it's early,

913
00:49:02,987 --> 00:49:06,347
Speaker 3: but in the in the Warrior system Andrew under Andrew

914
00:49:06,347 --> 00:49:09,187
Speaker 3: we've particularly given. Of course, you had a decent chunk

915
00:49:09,187 --> 00:49:11,467
Speaker 3: of time in the seven jumper at the at the

916
00:49:11,467 --> 00:49:12,387
Speaker 3: back end of last season.

917
00:49:13,387 --> 00:49:13,867
Speaker 5: Yeah.

918
00:49:13,987 --> 00:49:17,307
Speaker 13: Very comfortable mate, Yeah, having having finished the year with

919
00:49:17,387 --> 00:49:19,707
Speaker 13: the boys and then getting the full pre season.

920
00:49:20,067 --> 00:49:23,307
Speaker 5: Yeah, very comfortable and just leading the side.

921
00:49:23,387 --> 00:49:27,547
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's it's it's that's my game, that's my job,

922
00:49:27,627 --> 00:49:29,907
Speaker 13: and yeah, I just want to keep building and keep

923
00:49:30,987 --> 00:49:33,907
Speaker 13: you know, being consistent with my performances and taking control

924
00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:34,387
Speaker 13: of the team.

925
00:49:34,507 --> 00:49:37,227
Speaker 3: So how much time do you spend on your goalkicking

926
00:49:37,267 --> 00:49:37,707
Speaker 3: each week?

927
00:49:38,627 --> 00:49:39,787
Speaker 5: Yeah a fair bit.

928
00:49:40,307 --> 00:49:42,987
Speaker 13: Yeah, I like to like to kick every day that

929
00:49:43,067 --> 00:49:46,307
Speaker 13: we train, and just I just limit the load, but yeah,

930
00:49:46,427 --> 00:49:49,267
Speaker 13: definitely spend a lot of time on it. And yeah,

931
00:49:49,307 --> 00:49:53,587
Speaker 13: pretty pretty disappointed with with a few of them, but yeah,

932
00:49:53,707 --> 00:49:55,747
Speaker 13: there's always going to be improvements.

933
00:49:55,787 --> 00:49:56,107
Speaker 2: Mate.

934
00:49:56,587 --> 00:49:58,507
Speaker 3: Chanelle Harris Tavita had a big night as well, a

935
00:49:58,547 --> 00:50:01,627
Speaker 3: couple of tries for him. How much she enjoyed playing

936
00:50:01,627 --> 00:50:04,747
Speaker 3: alongside when the when the half's combination looks like it's

937
00:50:04,947 --> 00:50:05,867
Speaker 3: clicking really.

938
00:50:05,627 --> 00:50:09,067
Speaker 5: Well, Yeah, obviously his outstanding.

939
00:50:09,627 --> 00:50:12,587
Speaker 13: He just puts himself in great positions and he gets

940
00:50:12,587 --> 00:50:15,387
Speaker 13: the rewards. So yeah, I love and playing with Chanelle,

941
00:50:15,467 --> 00:50:18,747
Speaker 13: and yeah, I know a combination we just keep building,

942
00:50:18,787 --> 00:50:23,107
Speaker 13: and yeah, we're just glad we got to play our

943
00:50:23,107 --> 00:50:25,867
Speaker 13: soule of foota last night, and yeah, the more were

944
00:50:25,947 --> 00:50:30,027
Speaker 13: combining and on the same page along with Wade the better.

945
00:50:30,427 --> 00:50:33,227
Speaker 3: In particular, the left edge looked really dangerous last night

946
00:50:33,267 --> 00:50:35,507
Speaker 3: for the Warriors. Is there something that identified and the

947
00:50:35,587 --> 00:50:37,187
Speaker 3: Rooster's defense during the week.

948
00:50:37,827 --> 00:50:40,987
Speaker 13: No, not really, mate, You kind of just adjusted on

949
00:50:40,987 --> 00:50:43,747
Speaker 13: the run and sometimes that happens in games. You just

950
00:50:43,787 --> 00:50:46,667
Speaker 13: feel a little weakness and you try and you know,

951
00:50:46,827 --> 00:50:49,387
Speaker 13: exploit that. And yeah, I thought the boys on the

952
00:50:49,467 --> 00:50:52,667
Speaker 13: left edge did a great job, and yeah, we're just

953
00:50:53,067 --> 00:50:54,347
Speaker 13: happy that we got the rewards.

954
00:50:54,387 --> 00:50:55,107
Speaker 5: So it was good.

955
00:50:55,427 --> 00:50:58,107
Speaker 3: Always huge optimism around the Warriors at the start of

956
00:50:58,107 --> 00:51:01,707
Speaker 3: any season. Does a performance like that give you genuine

957
00:51:01,707 --> 00:51:04,467
Speaker 3: belief about what might be possible in twenty twenty six.

958
00:51:05,427 --> 00:51:10,867
Speaker 13: Yeah always mate, Yeah, everyone's obviously optimistic and you always

959
00:51:10,867 --> 00:51:12,947
Speaker 13: want to be it in the back end of the

960
00:51:13,067 --> 00:51:16,227
Speaker 13: of the year and you always have those high hopes.

961
00:51:16,227 --> 00:51:19,227
Speaker 13: But yeah, we've got a pretty big focus on just

962
00:51:19,507 --> 00:51:23,827
Speaker 13: taking a week by week, day by day, just being consistent,

963
00:51:25,027 --> 00:51:27,387
Speaker 13: you know, just focusing on each day getting better.

964
00:51:27,427 --> 00:51:29,827
Speaker 5: So yeah, we're not getting too ahead of ourselves.

965
00:51:29,907 --> 00:51:34,667
Speaker 13: Only round one, so yeah, we'll just look onto the

966
00:51:34,707 --> 00:51:37,347
Speaker 13: next week and against Canberra another tough game.

967
00:51:37,507 --> 00:51:39,867
Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll just be taking a week by week.

968
00:51:39,907 --> 00:51:41,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll leave it to the fans and probably us

969
00:51:41,867 --> 00:51:44,387
Speaker 3: on the media to get to get ahead of ourselves.

970
00:51:44,427 --> 00:51:47,947
Speaker 3: Speaking of the fans, always tricky around one. You really

971
00:51:47,987 --> 00:51:50,587
Speaker 3: don't know. But that crowd again last night, what's it

972
00:51:50,707 --> 00:51:52,747
Speaker 3: like running out in front of the atmosphere to kick

973
00:51:52,747 --> 00:51:53,347
Speaker 3: off the season.

974
00:51:54,427 --> 00:51:58,267
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's amazing, mate. Our fans are unreal.

975
00:51:58,427 --> 00:52:02,347
Speaker 13: They're just they're constant, packed house and they just bring

976
00:52:02,347 --> 00:52:04,867
Speaker 13: so much energy and to us as a team.

977
00:52:04,907 --> 00:52:05,867
Speaker 5: That just lifts us.

978
00:52:06,707 --> 00:52:08,427
Speaker 13: Love playing at home that I know the boys do

979
00:52:08,507 --> 00:52:10,987
Speaker 13: as well. It just gives us another I'm not a

980
00:52:11,067 --> 00:52:14,267
Speaker 13: kick and yeah I appreciate him so much, mate.

981
00:52:14,547 --> 00:52:17,187
Speaker 3: Interested in your mindset too, Tanner. You know, we know

982
00:52:17,267 --> 00:52:19,547
Speaker 3: Luke Metcalf is on the way back and we're hearing

983
00:52:19,587 --> 00:52:21,707
Speaker 3: sort of around six round seven he might be might

984
00:52:21,787 --> 00:52:24,347
Speaker 3: be back. How do you attack things knowing that he's

985
00:52:24,387 --> 00:52:26,427
Speaker 3: coming back? You're running the cutter at the moment. Do

986
00:52:26,467 --> 00:52:28,187
Speaker 3: you just try and make it a difficult decision for

987
00:52:28,227 --> 00:52:31,147
Speaker 3: Andrew Webster when Luke Metcalf is back in the in

988
00:52:31,187 --> 00:52:31,587
Speaker 3: the mix?

989
00:52:32,187 --> 00:52:34,947
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly what I want to do.

990
00:52:35,067 --> 00:52:37,587
Speaker 13: And yeah, I just want to play good footy and

991
00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:39,227
Speaker 13: put my best foot forward.

992
00:52:39,267 --> 00:52:41,947
Speaker 5: But yeah, I can't worry about that again. I gotta

993
00:52:42,067 --> 00:52:43,787
Speaker 5: I gotta take it day.

994
00:52:43,587 --> 00:52:45,907
Speaker 13: By day and make sure I'm nailing my role and

995
00:52:46,227 --> 00:52:49,387
Speaker 13: playing good footy and making sure that I'm doing everything

996
00:52:49,427 --> 00:52:52,507
Speaker 13: I can for the boys. And and that's that's all

997
00:52:52,507 --> 00:52:55,667
Speaker 13: I need to focus on for now, mate. So yeah,

998
00:52:55,747 --> 00:52:58,987
Speaker 13: I don't look forward, but there there's something I plan

999
00:52:59,107 --> 00:52:59,267
Speaker 13: to do.

1000
00:52:59,467 --> 00:53:01,907
Speaker 5: Just nail my role and see what happens.

1001
00:53:01,987 --> 00:53:04,827
Speaker 3: And I know you've had your review this morning, anything

1002
00:53:04,867 --> 00:53:07,147
Speaker 3: in particular, I mean, it must be nice coming into

1003
00:53:07,147 --> 00:53:09,227
Speaker 3: a review and you just put forty on the roosters.

1004
00:53:10,347 --> 00:53:12,747
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's obviously it's really good. Yeah, I happy. It

1005
00:53:12,867 --> 00:53:14,787
Speaker 5: was a happy camp, that's for sure.

1006
00:53:14,827 --> 00:53:17,867
Speaker 13: But yeah, obviously a lot of things we can work

1007
00:53:17,907 --> 00:53:20,267
Speaker 13: on and yeah, a lot of things that we want

1008
00:53:20,307 --> 00:53:24,307
Speaker 13: to get better at. So yeah, but we'll focus on

1009
00:53:24,347 --> 00:53:27,147
Speaker 13: that for the next probably two days and then and

1010
00:53:27,147 --> 00:53:28,307
Speaker 13: then we'll look into Camper.

1011
00:53:28,507 --> 00:53:32,387
Speaker 3: So another big game coming next weekend. Also back at home. Tanner,

1012
00:53:32,427 --> 00:53:34,827
Speaker 3: congratula last night, mate, terrific performance from you on the team.

1013
00:53:34,907 --> 00:53:36,947
Speaker 3: Enjoyed the rest of your weekend and thanks for chatting

1014
00:53:37,027 --> 00:53:37,667
Speaker 3: this afternoon.

1015
00:53:38,107 --> 00:53:39,107
Speaker 5: Thank you, mate, appreciate it.

1016
00:53:39,147 --> 00:53:41,587
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate your time, Tanner. Thanks indeed. Tanner Boyd

1017
00:53:42,507 --> 00:53:44,947
Speaker 3: man of the match last night, certainly in the conversation

1018
00:53:45,507 --> 00:53:48,587
Speaker 3: thought he was excellent. Goes to show, doesn't it what

1019
00:53:48,747 --> 00:53:51,627
Speaker 3: time in the Jersey can do for you? When he

1020
00:53:51,667 --> 00:53:54,387
Speaker 3: took over from Luke Metcalf last season, that was unexpected,

1021
00:53:54,467 --> 00:53:57,587
Speaker 3: wasn't it. No one expected Luke Metcalf to suffer a

1022
00:53:57,627 --> 00:54:02,067
Speaker 3: season ending injury and Tanner Boyd came in and was solid.

1023
00:54:02,787 --> 00:54:07,147
Speaker 3: But this this, well, I think last night showed what

1024
00:54:07,147 --> 00:54:10,387
Speaker 3: what knowing that you're going to be playing does for you.

1025
00:54:10,587 --> 00:54:12,227
Speaker 3: He was able to put in a full pre season,

1026
00:54:12,307 --> 00:54:15,507
Speaker 3: knowing that at least for the first six weeks anyway,

1027
00:54:15,987 --> 00:54:17,227
Speaker 3: he was going to be the man in the seven

1028
00:54:17,307 --> 00:54:19,507
Speaker 3: jersey and will be. And that's all he can do.

1029
00:54:19,547 --> 00:54:23,827
Speaker 3: I mean, Luke Metcalf's a terrific player and will certainly

1030
00:54:24,307 --> 00:54:27,587
Speaker 3: push for that seven jumper when he's back. But Tanner

1031
00:54:27,587 --> 00:54:33,147
Speaker 3: Boyd showed last night that he is a very able deputy,

1032
00:54:33,227 --> 00:54:35,947
Speaker 3: and calling him a deputy is probably the wrong word.

1033
00:54:36,907 --> 00:54:41,907
Speaker 3: He was excellent. Is there a scenario under which both

1034
00:54:42,267 --> 00:54:45,227
Speaker 3: Boyd and Metcalf play. Luke Metcalf's played a bit of six,

1035
00:54:45,307 --> 00:54:48,547
Speaker 3: isn't he Could we possibly see that? Could we see

1036
00:54:48,547 --> 00:54:53,507
Speaker 3: Tanner Boyd and Luke Metcalf and the halves together Warriors fans,

1037
00:54:56,067 --> 00:54:57,667
Speaker 3: Tanner Boyd said, there, you know, we don't want to

1038
00:54:57,707 --> 00:54:59,387
Speaker 3: get too carried away, and fair enough to it's the

1039
00:54:59,427 --> 00:55:01,427
Speaker 3: first game, but we can get carried away if we want,

1040
00:55:01,427 --> 00:55:05,347
Speaker 3: can't we come on, Warriors fans. I don't expect you

1041
00:55:05,387 --> 00:55:07,947
Speaker 3: to come on and give it the big it's our

1042
00:55:08,067 --> 00:55:10,467
Speaker 3: year after one game, but I would like to get

1043
00:55:10,507 --> 00:55:14,387
Speaker 3: your assessment. I would very much like to hear from

1044
00:55:14,427 --> 00:55:16,387
Speaker 3: you what you saw and what impressed you the most.

1045
00:55:16,467 --> 00:55:19,587
Speaker 3: Last night, Tanner Boyd was one thought Roger two. I

1046
00:55:19,627 --> 00:55:20,867
Speaker 3: Vasischek had a good game.

1047
00:55:21,987 --> 00:55:22,227
Speaker 6: Also.

1048
00:55:23,667 --> 00:55:25,747
Speaker 3: I thought James Fisher Harris was good too. I know

1049
00:55:25,787 --> 00:55:31,107
Speaker 3: he's had his fair share of criticism. He, you know,

1050
00:55:31,187 --> 00:55:33,067
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, is a bit of a lightning rod

1051
00:55:33,187 --> 00:55:37,667
Speaker 3: for criticism James Fisher Harris, which is odd rarely given

1052
00:55:37,707 --> 00:55:41,027
Speaker 3: he's the co captain and such a tremendous player. But

1053
00:55:42,307 --> 00:55:44,707
Speaker 3: I don't know, he just seemed like he had had

1054
00:55:44,707 --> 00:55:48,267
Speaker 3: a real aggression last night about the things that he

1055
00:55:48,347 --> 00:55:51,307
Speaker 3: was doing. What about Kurt cape Well as well? I

1056
00:55:51,387 --> 00:55:55,947
Speaker 3: bet Kurt cape Wells try that was just awesome. But

1057
00:55:55,987 --> 00:56:00,187
Speaker 3: also when he set up was an Adam Pompey's try

1058
00:56:00,627 --> 00:56:01,907
Speaker 3: when he's flipped it on and they had to go

1059
00:56:01,947 --> 00:56:03,787
Speaker 3: back and they played it over and over and over again.

1060
00:56:03,827 --> 00:56:07,507
Speaker 3: But Kurt cape well, you know he played in the

1061
00:56:07,547 --> 00:56:09,467
Speaker 3: centers last year, didn't he When when there was a

1062
00:56:09,467 --> 00:56:13,587
Speaker 3: bit of an injury crisis there, he was running. He

1063
00:56:13,667 --> 00:56:16,187
Speaker 3: was running like a he was running like a center.

1064
00:56:17,067 --> 00:56:19,387
Speaker 3: It was great to see. So who caught the eye

1065
00:56:19,387 --> 00:56:22,947
Speaker 3: for you? How much confidence do you take from game one?

1066
00:56:23,787 --> 00:56:26,907
Speaker 3: And what does the future look like in those six

1067
00:56:26,987 --> 00:56:30,227
Speaker 3: and seven jerseys? Because Chanelle Harris Tavita was very good

1068
00:56:30,307 --> 00:56:34,347
Speaker 3: last night too, wasn't he? So the boyd Harris Tavita

1069
00:56:34,707 --> 00:56:38,187
Speaker 3: Halves Combo was good. Add Luke Metcalf into that, and

1070
00:56:38,587 --> 00:56:42,267
Speaker 3: all of a sudden Andrew Webster has some decisions to make,

1071
00:56:42,307 --> 00:56:45,227
Speaker 3: which is what every coach wants. One two, eight hundred

1072
00:56:45,227 --> 00:56:48,707
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty flag will be flying high early

1073
00:56:48,747 --> 00:56:49,427
Speaker 3: in the season.

1074
00:56:49,507 --> 00:56:54,587
Speaker 11: Greg, Ah, Yeah, flags flying high. But you know, we've

1075
00:56:54,587 --> 00:56:57,387
Speaker 11: got to keep ourselves grounded as well. I don't want

1076
00:56:57,387 --> 00:57:00,267
Speaker 11: to be a you know, bring everything back down to

1077
00:57:00,307 --> 00:57:01,427
Speaker 11: earth a little bit.

1078
00:57:01,827 --> 00:57:04,467
Speaker 3: No, have some realism and add some realism into my

1079
00:57:05,107 --> 00:57:08,267
Speaker 3: complete roast in tonight, Ivety grig. That's what that's what

1080
00:57:08,307 --> 00:57:08,787
Speaker 3: we need.

1081
00:57:09,827 --> 00:57:13,307
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, you know, it was probably unexpected that

1082
00:57:13,427 --> 00:57:17,787
Speaker 11: we would beat the Roosters and have beat them by

1083
00:57:18,027 --> 00:57:25,907
Speaker 11: as much as we did. I think there's still obviously

1084
00:57:26,027 --> 00:57:29,547
Speaker 11: work to do, but obviously they've learned from the pre season.

1085
00:57:32,267 --> 00:57:34,627
Speaker 11: And I still think that there's guys out there that,

1086
00:57:35,267 --> 00:57:38,667
Speaker 11: like well like most, I still need to get into

1087
00:57:38,707 --> 00:57:45,027
Speaker 11: their worker bit. Aaron Clark I thought, was not Aaron

1088
00:57:45,107 --> 00:57:48,587
Speaker 11: Clark that we have got gotten used to. I mean,

1089
00:57:49,027 --> 00:57:52,747
Speaker 11: I believe he will, he will come good and as

1090
00:57:52,787 --> 00:57:55,467
Speaker 11: you pointed out these players like people that sort of

1091
00:57:56,507 --> 00:57:58,867
Speaker 11: sort of seems that he's not had an off season.

1092
00:57:58,867 --> 00:58:02,427
Speaker 11: He's just gone straight back into where he finished off

1093
00:58:03,667 --> 00:58:06,547
Speaker 11: the same same as Roger.

1094
00:58:06,707 --> 00:58:07,467
Speaker 6: I liked.

1095
00:58:09,147 --> 00:58:12,747
Speaker 11: The interchange that Webster brought to the day.

1096
00:58:12,827 --> 00:58:15,067
Speaker 6: We seemed to have the.

1097
00:58:14,907 --> 00:58:18,147
Speaker 11: Timing of each and every one of those gots off

1098
00:58:18,187 --> 00:58:20,827
Speaker 11: the bench basically at the right time.

1099
00:58:22,507 --> 00:58:23,427
Speaker 6: So that sort of.

1100
00:58:25,027 --> 00:58:29,027
Speaker 11: Stood out for me that we used our interchange bed twelve.

1101
00:58:29,507 --> 00:58:33,227
Speaker 11: One thing that I also stood out for me was

1102
00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:37,707
Speaker 11: we still have the problem we've done with in a

1103
00:58:37,827 --> 00:58:42,867
Speaker 11: is Selesniak. He got bought three times during that game

1104
00:58:42,907 --> 00:58:46,867
Speaker 11: coming into off as wing, onely one noll he ended

1105
00:58:46,907 --> 00:58:50,587
Speaker 11: up in a try and I think was two po

1106
00:58:50,707 --> 00:58:53,907
Speaker 11: that actually ended up knocking the ball on otherwise they

1107
00:58:53,907 --> 00:58:57,267
Speaker 11: would have scored out wide. So there's obviously a work

1108
00:58:57,307 --> 00:59:01,227
Speaker 11: on still there. And I don't know what the answer is.

1109
00:59:02,107 --> 00:59:04,107
Speaker 3: I know we had this conversation last year, Gregor, I

1110
00:59:04,107 --> 00:59:05,947
Speaker 3: remember this not not you and nine is this here

1111
00:59:06,067 --> 00:59:08,187
Speaker 3: we might but I remember that was a It was

1112
00:59:08,227 --> 00:59:10,627
Speaker 3: a big talking point last year, wasn't it. Why why

1113
00:59:10,707 --> 00:59:13,227
Speaker 3: Dellan would often be caught out of position? And I

1114
00:59:13,307 --> 00:59:15,747
Speaker 3: remember Andrew Webster said, well, he's kind of damned if

1115
00:59:15,787 --> 00:59:17,787
Speaker 3: he doesn't. Damned if he doesn't. If he stays out

1116
00:59:18,227 --> 00:59:20,427
Speaker 3: and he's he's beaten on the inside, then he looks

1117
00:59:20,827 --> 00:59:22,987
Speaker 3: he looks like he's made the wrong choice. But if

1118
00:59:22,987 --> 00:59:24,987
Speaker 3: he comes in and then has been on the outside,

1119
00:59:25,027 --> 00:59:28,147
Speaker 3: the same criticism of centers way, it's it's it's more.

1120
00:59:28,267 --> 00:59:30,547
Speaker 3: I guess it's more of a partnership thing. But I'm

1121
00:59:30,587 --> 00:59:33,187
Speaker 3: not actually sure what the answer is, are you.

1122
00:59:36,067 --> 00:59:40,147
Speaker 11: I think it's it's it's probably a bit of a

1123
00:59:40,187 --> 00:59:44,307
Speaker 11: style that they play where maybe they just need to

1124
00:59:43,747 --> 00:59:47,947
Speaker 11: to change that style a little bit and the guys

1125
00:59:47,987 --> 00:59:51,027
Speaker 11: who are on the outside need to stick more to

1126
00:59:51,267 --> 00:59:54,547
Speaker 11: a man and man on man's situation right, and then

1127
00:59:54,667 --> 00:59:57,427
Speaker 11: he doesn't get caught having to be dragged in all

1128
00:59:57,467 --> 00:59:59,587
Speaker 11: the time, which seems to be happening a lot.

1129
01:00:02,107 --> 01:00:04,627
Speaker 3: Good good observation, just on the interchange before you go.

1130
01:00:04,787 --> 01:00:07,427
Speaker 3: It must be it must be hard eight to keep

1131
01:00:07,427 --> 01:00:09,467
Speaker 3: a rain on lea a helo seema and to know

1132
01:00:09,667 --> 01:00:11,867
Speaker 3: when the right time to introduce him is. I'm sure

1133
01:00:11,867 --> 01:00:14,427
Speaker 3: there's a clamor after the season. He had last year

1134
01:00:14,467 --> 01:00:18,187
Speaker 3: to start him in matches, but Andrew has clearly resisted

1135
01:00:18,187 --> 01:00:20,987
Speaker 3: that temptation. How challenging you reckon that would be to

1136
01:00:21,747 --> 01:00:25,427
Speaker 3: know when and at what stage and for how long

1137
01:00:25,907 --> 01:00:28,987
Speaker 3: to inject leaq A Halosima into the.

1138
01:00:28,907 --> 01:00:34,547
Speaker 11: Game exceptionally hard. He's probably sitting on that bench and

1139
01:00:34,547 --> 01:00:37,147
Speaker 11: he's jumping out of his skin as you can see

1140
01:00:37,187 --> 01:00:40,587
Speaker 11: once he got on on the field. But it's almost

1141
01:00:40,707 --> 01:00:44,427
Speaker 11: like you have to curb his enthusiasm to a point

1142
01:00:44,987 --> 01:00:49,947
Speaker 11: and that he doesn't expand all his energy, which if

1143
01:00:49,947 --> 01:00:54,547
Speaker 11: you put him on first start on the starting team

1144
01:00:55,027 --> 01:00:57,467
Speaker 11: he could have. He could burn himself out. So that's

1145
01:00:57,467 --> 01:01:01,027
Speaker 11: probably why they're holding him back because the enthusiasm that

1146
01:01:01,107 --> 01:01:03,987
Speaker 11: he has once he gets on, he can't keep that

1147
01:01:04,267 --> 01:01:08,747
Speaker 11: energy up for a full eighty minutes at this particular

1148
01:01:08,787 --> 01:01:13,547
Speaker 11: point in his career. So maybe that's why he's he's

1149
01:01:13,587 --> 01:01:16,747
Speaker 11: holding him back to the point that he is.

1150
01:01:18,627 --> 01:01:19,867
Speaker 3: That's really good man management.

1151
01:01:20,067 --> 01:01:23,147
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a great impact off the bench.

1152
01:01:24,587 --> 01:01:27,907
Speaker 3: Indeed. Hey, great thoughts, Greg, Thanks for calling in with

1153
01:01:27,987 --> 01:01:30,747
Speaker 3: such articulate thoughts on the game, mate. I hope we

1154
01:01:30,787 --> 01:01:34,187
Speaker 3: can chat often across the across the season. Really enjoyed

1155
01:01:34,227 --> 01:01:36,187
Speaker 3: your call. One twenty seven oh eight hundred and eighty

1156
01:01:36,227 --> 01:01:38,147
Speaker 3: ten eighty Lyle, I'm with you after this, got to

1157
01:01:38,147 --> 01:01:40,267
Speaker 3: get a breakaway speedline. If you want to talk Warriors,

1158
01:01:40,387 --> 01:01:42,467
Speaker 3: we'll do it for a little while. Your first chance

1159
01:01:42,507 --> 01:01:45,107
Speaker 3: this year to talk about the Warriors, having seen them

1160
01:01:45,107 --> 01:01:47,427
Speaker 3: play an NRL game, and a pretty good one too,

1161
01:01:47,507 --> 01:01:49,667
Speaker 3: forty two eighteen last night against the Roosters. Oh eight

1162
01:01:49,787 --> 01:01:51,787
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty back after this.

1163
01:01:52,427 --> 01:01:56,947
Speaker 1: Hard tackles, harder opinions, we can sport with Jason Pine

1164
01:01:56,987 --> 01:02:01,427
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News talks.

1165
01:02:01,467 --> 01:02:04,667
Speaker 3: That'd be it has bang on one thirty talking Warriors good,

1166
01:02:04,707 --> 01:02:05,427
Speaker 3: I lyle.

1167
01:02:07,227 --> 01:02:09,907
Speaker 14: Mate, look at enough tie in the sets where twenty

1168
01:02:09,947 --> 01:02:13,427
Speaker 14: five sets the six they completed twenty three the other

1169
01:02:13,587 --> 01:02:17,667
Speaker 14: side the Roosters had had thirteen completed eight. I've seen

1170
01:02:17,707 --> 01:02:19,907
Speaker 14: plenty of games in the past where the Warriors said

1171
01:02:20,027 --> 01:02:23,907
Speaker 14: all that position, but haven't manufactured points. What they did

1172
01:02:23,987 --> 01:02:27,907
Speaker 14: last night they played with high intensity, hustled and bustle,

1173
01:02:28,147 --> 01:02:31,747
Speaker 14: and they played that Peones file of football off loads

1174
01:02:31,987 --> 01:02:34,347
Speaker 14: here there and everywhere, but not till at the top

1175
01:02:34,747 --> 01:02:37,867
Speaker 14: tenor Bloop was the best on the panic. Clark was

1176
01:02:38,027 --> 01:02:41,707
Speaker 14: very good. Two of Varsis Sick was very good, Jackson

1177
01:02:41,827 --> 01:02:45,547
Speaker 14: Ford was outstanding, having said that they all played well

1178
01:02:45,587 --> 01:02:49,147
Speaker 14: with their sets and the layer tower the center man

1179
01:02:49,267 --> 01:02:54,147
Speaker 14: he needs to improve. Look, you don't win championships in

1180
01:02:54,187 --> 01:02:56,667
Speaker 14: the first round or anything like that, but it's a

1181
01:02:56,707 --> 01:03:01,627
Speaker 14: good start. And what impressed me most the score line

1182
01:03:01,667 --> 01:03:04,387
Speaker 14: at the end, because late in the season, when you're

1183
01:03:04,427 --> 01:03:08,107
Speaker 14: playing for top eight spots, it could be a very congested,

1184
01:03:08,187 --> 01:03:12,107
Speaker 14: bloody road into them. So a four and against what

1185
01:03:12,267 --> 01:03:15,627
Speaker 14: points could make the world a difference. I like boyd

1186
01:03:15,827 --> 01:03:19,267
Speaker 14: over the other boat that's coming back, because he kicks

1187
01:03:19,307 --> 01:03:22,507
Speaker 14: about eighty percent. And as dust Gould said, the first

1188
01:03:22,547 --> 01:03:25,067
Speaker 14: thing you picked is your kicker and the second thing

1189
01:03:25,147 --> 01:03:28,907
Speaker 14: you picked is your backup kicker. Look, Canbra are going

1190
01:03:28,947 --> 01:03:31,787
Speaker 14: to be very hard to beat next week. They're incredibly

1191
01:03:31,867 --> 01:03:34,907
Speaker 14: unlucky not to beat Brisbane and putting them out of

1192
01:03:34,907 --> 01:03:38,827
Speaker 14: the competition late last year. In camera, so an old

1193
01:03:39,107 --> 01:03:43,587
Speaker 14: tricky Ricky Stewart will have a chip on his shoulder

1194
01:03:43,787 --> 01:03:47,267
Speaker 14: and they play hand on spoiling. They just never go

1195
01:03:47,387 --> 01:03:50,707
Speaker 14: away camera. As for lacquer Up, the time to bring

1196
01:03:50,787 --> 01:03:54,667
Speaker 14: him on is when the opposition is just starting to tire.

1197
01:03:55,467 --> 01:03:58,067
Speaker 14: Lecqu of the tongue and wrecker, as I call him's

1198
01:03:58,107 --> 01:04:00,987
Speaker 14: the boat. If you drop him in ten minutes early,

1199
01:04:01,227 --> 01:04:03,587
Speaker 14: you just won't have the effect. You've got a time

1200
01:04:03,627 --> 01:04:07,507
Speaker 14: it right, and he comes for and ed ricks and

1201
01:04:07,587 --> 01:04:09,827
Speaker 14: destroys opposition defenses.

1202
01:04:11,027 --> 01:04:14,347
Speaker 3: Hey, liare you saying that if there was a straight

1203
01:04:14,467 --> 01:04:18,147
Speaker 3: choice between Tanner Boyd and Luke metcalf which it may

1204
01:04:18,187 --> 01:04:21,147
Speaker 3: well be when Metcalf's fit again, you would take Tanner

1205
01:04:21,147 --> 01:04:26,347
Speaker 3: Boyd because of his goalkicking over Luke metcalf look like.

1206
01:04:26,467 --> 01:04:30,907
Speaker 14: Half Metcalfe on the bench. I think he's I think

1207
01:04:30,907 --> 01:04:32,787
Speaker 14: it would work better that way. But that's only my

1208
01:04:32,987 --> 01:04:36,147
Speaker 14: two cents. Plenty of my relatives over there will tell

1209
01:04:36,187 --> 01:04:39,907
Speaker 14: me I'm talking free there behind. But yeah, I like

1210
01:04:40,027 --> 01:04:40,787
Speaker 14: Boyd myself.

1211
01:04:42,067 --> 01:04:42,547
Speaker 3: Good stuff.

1212
01:04:42,547 --> 01:04:42,667
Speaker 4: Long.

1213
01:04:42,747 --> 01:04:44,827
Speaker 3: Look, it's all about opinions mate, as you know, and

1214
01:04:44,867 --> 01:04:46,947
Speaker 3: I love it when you express yours. We get the

1215
01:04:47,027 --> 01:04:48,867
Speaker 3: chance to see the Raiders tonight. Of course when they

1216
01:04:48,907 --> 01:04:52,307
Speaker 3: take on the Sea Eagles. There'll be a good game. Actually,

1217
01:04:52,507 --> 01:04:56,987
Speaker 3: that's that's a pretty even matchup. It's in Sydney. So

1218
01:04:57,627 --> 01:05:00,187
Speaker 3: the Raiders who come to Aukland next weekend we get

1219
01:05:00,187 --> 01:05:02,827
Speaker 3: our first. We're going to look at them. Remember last

1220
01:05:02,867 --> 01:05:04,787
Speaker 3: year in Vegas. They bet they be's by about thirty

1221
01:05:05,067 --> 01:05:06,907
Speaker 3: thirty points to eight or something like that. That last year.

1222
01:05:06,907 --> 01:05:09,987
Speaker 3: That was a old Vegas experiment, wasn't it for the warriors?

1223
01:05:10,107 --> 01:05:12,547
Speaker 3: Good to chat to your Li'll always enjoy your calls, mate,

1224
01:05:12,587 --> 01:05:14,947
Speaker 3: And and I'm sure there are other people on the

1225
01:05:14,987 --> 01:05:16,907
Speaker 3: side of the Tasman who agree with you as well.

1226
01:05:17,307 --> 01:05:19,707
Speaker 3: Good to hear from you as always, Phil, What did

1227
01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:20,907
Speaker 3: you make of it? Is it our year?

1228
01:05:23,667 --> 01:05:23,867
Speaker 6: They?

1229
01:05:24,027 --> 01:05:25,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, mate, all the way?

1230
01:05:25,627 --> 01:05:29,667
Speaker 3: Go on, that's the spirit's jump on the bandwagon with me, mate,

1231
01:05:29,787 --> 01:05:30,467
Speaker 3: jump on with me.

1232
01:05:31,067 --> 01:05:32,867
Speaker 15: That's fun. I'm on there with your mate.

1233
01:05:32,867 --> 01:05:35,987
Speaker 10: Will fall off it together, absolutely.

1234
01:05:35,307 --> 01:05:37,547
Speaker 3: We will, hopefully hopefully not next week.

1235
01:05:38,507 --> 01:05:42,867
Speaker 15: No, no, well I actually didn't. I forgot the game

1236
01:05:42,987 --> 01:05:45,107
Speaker 15: was on, and I didn't actually watch the game pointy.

1237
01:05:45,187 --> 01:05:48,947
Speaker 15: But I'm just listening to you, to your show and

1238
01:05:49,747 --> 01:05:52,147
Speaker 15: late to get a sneaky rugby commenting because I tried

1239
01:05:52,187 --> 01:05:54,147
Speaker 15: to get through but I couldn't with Dave Rene. But

1240
01:05:54,667 --> 01:05:58,027
Speaker 15: I just listened to your caller that rang up and

1241
01:05:58,067 --> 01:06:02,107
Speaker 15: said about that concern of wasn't he was Heck.

1242
01:06:02,547 --> 01:06:04,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what Tenny's a Lisnyck Yep.

1243
01:06:05,387 --> 01:06:08,467
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm sorry. I trouble pronouncing the name. But and

1244
01:06:08,507 --> 01:06:10,667
Speaker 15: I've talked to you in the past about the same thing,

1245
01:06:10,747 --> 01:06:14,267
Speaker 15: being concerned about him coming and offer his wing too often,

1246
01:06:14,307 --> 01:06:17,547
Speaker 15: you know, and exposing that that side, you know, and

1247
01:06:17,907 --> 01:06:20,147
Speaker 15: the outside guy getting around him and running in for

1248
01:06:20,227 --> 01:06:23,547
Speaker 15: the Troy. And when you said to him, when you

1249
01:06:23,547 --> 01:06:25,587
Speaker 15: asked the boy, what do you think the answer is,

1250
01:06:26,067 --> 01:06:27,867
Speaker 15: you sort of got me thinking. And I was thinking

1251
01:06:27,867 --> 01:06:30,507
Speaker 15: about what you said about talking to Andrew Webster, which

1252
01:06:30,507 --> 01:06:33,867
Speaker 15: I also remember listening to about that and him being

1253
01:06:33,947 --> 01:06:35,827
Speaker 15: damned if he doesn't d Andrew doesn't, And I was

1254
01:06:35,867 --> 01:06:39,547
Speaker 15: sort of thinking, maybe have been a bit harsh on him.

1255
01:06:39,747 --> 01:06:43,307
Speaker 15: And maybe the answer is that the guy on his

1256
01:06:43,387 --> 01:06:48,347
Speaker 15: inside should better cover his man and mark up his

1257
01:06:48,507 --> 01:06:50,947
Speaker 15: man and then they and then he wouldn't be put

1258
01:06:50,987 --> 01:06:53,187
Speaker 15: in that position where he gets caught between trying to

1259
01:06:53,227 --> 01:06:57,387
Speaker 15: get two people, you know, and gets and exposes the outside.

1260
01:06:57,427 --> 01:07:00,387
Speaker 15: So maybe that's the answer. It's not so much with

1261
01:07:00,587 --> 01:07:05,107
Speaker 15: wisneck himself and fixing that. It's more that his man

1262
01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:08,427
Speaker 15: that's beside him maybe doing a better job of mark

1263
01:07:08,467 --> 01:07:10,107
Speaker 15: and that inside player.

1264
01:07:10,547 --> 01:07:13,707
Speaker 3: Always a combination, fell you're right, Always a combination between

1265
01:07:13,907 --> 01:07:16,707
Speaker 3: the center who was on that side and and the winger,

1266
01:07:17,227 --> 01:07:20,627
Speaker 3: and you're right again. What you don't want is for

1267
01:07:21,587 --> 01:07:24,987
Speaker 3: is for opposition teams to perceive a weakness there right

1268
01:07:25,107 --> 01:07:28,907
Speaker 3: to think, Okay, we've got a defender here who isn't

1269
01:07:29,067 --> 01:07:32,067
Speaker 3: entirely sure about whether he should stay in or sord

1270
01:07:32,107 --> 01:07:35,427
Speaker 3: go in or stay out, And you know you're placed

1271
01:07:35,467 --> 01:07:39,307
Speaker 3: doubt in the mind not only of Dellan himself, but

1272
01:07:39,387 --> 01:07:42,107
Speaker 3: of Andrew Webster and his coaching staff. I do remember

1273
01:07:42,187 --> 01:07:43,667
Speaker 3: last year there was a there was a game and

1274
01:07:43,667 --> 01:07:46,187
Speaker 3: I can't remember who was against, when there had been

1275
01:07:46,187 --> 01:07:47,547
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on Dellan and he had a

1276
01:07:47,667 --> 01:07:50,587
Speaker 3: very good defensive game, even picked up an intercept or two,

1277
01:07:51,027 --> 01:07:53,147
Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, maybe he's got the hang of it.

1278
01:07:53,307 --> 01:07:58,827
Speaker 3: He's he's got the he's worked it out, but obviously

1279
01:07:58,867 --> 01:08:00,987
Speaker 3: still a work in progress and and just part of

1280
01:08:00,987 --> 01:08:03,907
Speaker 3: his game. We know how how exciting an attacking player

1281
01:08:03,947 --> 01:08:05,947
Speaker 3: he is. I'm sure that they'll they'll work on it.

1282
01:08:05,947 --> 01:08:08,987
Speaker 3: They will, they'll have reviewed it, and they'll continue to

1283
01:08:09,027 --> 01:08:09,507
Speaker 3: work on it.

1284
01:08:11,027 --> 01:08:14,667
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because like he's a fantastic great player.

1285
01:08:14,707 --> 01:08:17,747
Speaker 15: You know, there's things he does and runs he makes.

1286
01:08:17,787 --> 01:08:22,427
Speaker 15: And also I thinks and having said that, ironically that

1287
01:08:22,667 --> 01:08:27,347
Speaker 15: like his actual defense is quite outstanding too, you know,

1288
01:08:27,507 --> 01:08:29,707
Speaker 15: for a winger and a guy who comes in and

1289
01:08:29,707 --> 01:08:32,867
Speaker 15: does make some great tackles that in the past that

1290
01:08:32,907 --> 01:08:38,827
Speaker 15: I've seen and thought that's yeah, really good. So yeah, yeah,

1291
01:08:39,147 --> 01:08:41,787
Speaker 15: like I say, it's a bit I feel a bit

1292
01:08:41,987 --> 01:08:45,667
Speaker 15: harsh criticizing him because he's such a dynamic, good player

1293
01:08:45,707 --> 01:08:48,187
Speaker 15: and he is a good defender, you know, on the whole.

1294
01:08:48,227 --> 01:08:51,587
Speaker 15: But it's just like you said, it's just that he

1295
01:08:51,667 --> 01:08:54,187
Speaker 15: getting caught in two minds, and I'm the beginning I'm

1296
01:08:54,227 --> 01:08:56,427
Speaker 15: sort of just thinking, well, maybe it's not so much

1297
01:08:56,547 --> 01:09:00,827
Speaker 15: his fault, you know. And yeah, we don't want teams

1298
01:09:00,867 --> 01:09:03,347
Speaker 15: to other teams to, like you say, if they perceive

1299
01:09:04,187 --> 01:09:06,867
Speaker 15: that there's a weakness out there, they will exploit, because

1300
01:09:06,947 --> 01:09:10,827
Speaker 15: I'm sure they've done that last year in games where

1301
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:13,387
Speaker 15: they picked up you know, that he come in a

1302
01:09:13,427 --> 01:09:15,427
Speaker 15: couple of times because he might have had to, you know,

1303
01:09:15,467 --> 01:09:17,667
Speaker 15: because he's caught in that position of trying to defend

1304
01:09:17,747 --> 01:09:20,667
Speaker 15: two players. So they you know, they go, right, let's

1305
01:09:20,747 --> 01:09:22,547
Speaker 15: let's create that again and put it out there.

1306
01:09:22,587 --> 01:09:26,387
Speaker 3: So yeah, interesting times, Phil, Interesting time's got to I've

1307
01:09:26,387 --> 01:09:29,107
Speaker 3: got a couple of other calls to get to. But look,

1308
01:09:30,627 --> 01:09:32,467
Speaker 3: it will be a work in progress. Of course it

1309
01:09:32,507 --> 01:09:36,267
Speaker 3: will be. And you know, as you've said, Dellan Whata

1310
01:09:36,347 --> 01:09:40,107
Speaker 3: tennis lest it offers you a lot in an attacking sense.

1311
01:09:40,387 --> 01:09:43,867
Speaker 3: And I think sometimes those those when a try is

1312
01:09:43,867 --> 01:09:48,147
Speaker 3: scored out wide, it's almost as though the the the

1313
01:09:48,227 --> 01:09:52,067
Speaker 3: lack of a of of defense is magnified out there

1314
01:09:52,107 --> 01:09:54,587
Speaker 3: because it always looks like as coming early and there's

1315
01:09:54,627 --> 01:09:56,707
Speaker 3: there's an overlap on the outside, or he hasn't come

1316
01:09:56,747 --> 01:10:00,347
Speaker 3: in and the guy's gone through to score. It always

1317
01:10:00,347 --> 01:10:03,427
Speaker 3: I think looks worse. Blake says intercepts are unfortunately often

1318
01:10:03,427 --> 01:10:06,027
Speaker 3: a sign of a bad read. It often means they're

1319
01:10:06,067 --> 01:10:08,307
Speaker 3: caught in two minds between staying and going yeah, that

1320
01:10:08,387 --> 01:10:12,627
Speaker 3: good point, Blake, good, good point. Yep again, you know

1321
01:10:12,667 --> 01:10:16,307
Speaker 3: it's not I'm sure everybody at Warriors HQ was aware

1322
01:10:16,307 --> 01:10:20,747
Speaker 3: of it, and we'll be working hard on it. Steven says,

1323
01:10:20,747 --> 01:10:22,907
Speaker 3: Pony could be wrong again, but to me, it seems

1324
01:10:23,187 --> 01:10:25,867
Speaker 3: Chanelle Harris Tavita may finally be maturing into the class

1325
01:10:25,867 --> 01:10:29,547
Speaker 3: act he's always threatened to be. When it's hid and

1326
01:10:29,587 --> 01:10:31,427
Speaker 3: body a right. He's one of the best halves operating

1327
01:10:31,427 --> 01:10:34,987
Speaker 3: in the NRL. If I'm right, he'll carry the Warriors

1328
01:10:35,067 --> 01:10:39,267
Speaker 3: a long way towards the playoffs. Thank you, Steven, I agree. Hello,

1329
01:10:39,267 --> 01:10:41,547
Speaker 3: Frank good a poney.

1330
01:10:43,387 --> 01:10:45,787
Speaker 16: My flag is out of the drawer and it'll be

1331
01:10:45,827 --> 01:10:50,307
Speaker 16: flying high at the tennis this week. There was so

1332
01:10:50,467 --> 01:10:54,787
Speaker 16: much to like about that game. I crossed the park.

1333
01:10:54,907 --> 01:10:59,627
Speaker 16: Their defense and offense was tight. I mean this team

1334
01:10:59,667 --> 01:11:01,587
Speaker 16: we were playing Sydney. I mean they've got a lot

1335
01:11:01,627 --> 01:11:04,187
Speaker 16: of speechters in there, and they were breaking over the

1336
01:11:04,227 --> 01:11:07,307
Speaker 16: advantage line a lot. And I was thinking at the

1337
01:11:07,907 --> 01:11:10,947
Speaker 16: first half, I was thinking, oh, I don't know about this.

1338
01:11:10,947 --> 01:11:14,027
Speaker 16: This is this is not looking good. They're getting they're

1339
01:11:14,067 --> 01:11:19,667
Speaker 16: getting through us. And but we, unlike other season or

1340
01:11:19,747 --> 01:11:23,827
Speaker 16: last season, we tightened up. I mean, you've got players

1341
01:11:23,867 --> 01:11:26,307
Speaker 16: in there where you've got what stars Smith in the

1342
01:11:26,507 --> 01:11:29,427
Speaker 16: in the engine room, You've got Hala Sema, you got

1343
01:11:29,467 --> 01:11:32,147
Speaker 16: an Egan, two of us to share. Clark, Kate well.

1344
01:11:32,587 --> 01:11:34,107
Speaker 10: Boyd, he was.

1345
01:11:34,307 --> 01:11:37,907
Speaker 16: His kicking was very good. I mean those high kicks

1346
01:11:38,107 --> 01:11:42,427
Speaker 16: to keep us help our guys to get up the

1347
01:11:42,547 --> 01:11:46,467
Speaker 16: aims of their faces was another very good feature of

1348
01:11:46,507 --> 01:11:50,747
Speaker 16: the game. No, there's a lot there which I did like,

1349
01:11:51,707 --> 01:11:54,307
Speaker 16: I know, it's one smaller doesn't make a summer. But

1350
01:11:55,107 --> 01:11:58,067
Speaker 16: that's a great start of the season. I love the

1351
01:11:58,067 --> 01:12:00,787
Speaker 16: crowd singing the anthem at the end. I think that's

1352
01:12:00,907 --> 01:12:03,987
Speaker 16: boys them up. And there's so much I mean, when

1353
01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:07,147
Speaker 16: you can, let's consider it. We've got Loop Metcalf, They've

1354
01:12:07,147 --> 01:12:11,267
Speaker 16: got Mitch Barney, We've got Roccoberry, We've got to Yamata,

1355
01:12:11,587 --> 01:12:14,467
Speaker 16: Mia Marta. I mean, these are these are top guys.

1356
01:12:14,667 --> 01:12:17,867
Speaker 16: They weren't playing, they're injured, they're going to come back

1357
01:12:18,747 --> 01:12:21,827
Speaker 16: and they're going to replace these guys who are playing.

1358
01:12:21,907 --> 01:12:28,387
Speaker 16: So Weather's got I've got quite a very interesting task

1359
01:12:28,467 --> 01:12:32,787
Speaker 16: ahead of him. And I just love the way they played.

1360
01:12:33,067 --> 01:12:36,947
Speaker 16: I love the way they finished. And I think we've

1361
01:12:36,947 --> 01:12:39,307
Speaker 16: got to show against the Earaiders next week.

1362
01:12:39,787 --> 01:12:41,707
Speaker 3: I do two, Frank, I do too. And you talk

1363
01:12:41,747 --> 01:12:44,107
Speaker 3: about the depth that's building. That's every coach will tell

1364
01:12:44,107 --> 01:12:47,227
Speaker 3: you that's the head up they want. They want a

1365
01:12:47,267 --> 01:12:52,067
Speaker 3: couple of guys, you know, really making it difficult for

1366
01:12:52,067 --> 01:12:56,107
Speaker 3: for Andrew Webster. He'll want difficult decisions. He'll want tenor

1367
01:12:56,147 --> 01:12:58,107
Speaker 3: boy to make it hard for him. When Luke Metcalf

1368
01:12:58,227 --> 01:13:00,867
Speaker 3: is back, good to Jetty as always made I'm sure

1369
01:13:00,867 --> 01:13:03,147
Speaker 3: we'll talk off and through the season. Wald, You're going

1370
01:13:03,187 --> 01:13:06,547
Speaker 3: to get the last word on the Warriors today.

1371
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:09,267
Speaker 17: Hey, I just wanted to bring up some of the

1372
01:13:09,307 --> 01:13:12,827
Speaker 17: comments about isn't it coming off as wing? It's normally

1373
01:13:13,147 --> 01:13:16,467
Speaker 17: a common rule to follow in push inside with your center.

1374
01:13:17,027 --> 01:13:20,307
Speaker 17: The sender makes that decision, and often the sender's decision

1375
01:13:20,747 --> 01:13:25,827
Speaker 17: is guided by his insights and the comment made earlier

1376
01:13:25,827 --> 01:13:28,947
Speaker 17: by the guy Greg saying that it should be marked.

1377
01:13:30,267 --> 01:13:32,587
Speaker 17: The whole intent and purpose of working a left and

1378
01:13:32,667 --> 01:13:35,227
Speaker 17: right side is to add extra numbers when the defense

1379
01:13:35,387 --> 01:13:41,067
Speaker 17: is lacked. Going to be caught out in that instance

1380
01:13:41,107 --> 01:13:43,787
Speaker 17: if you're if you're marking or marking up one on one.

1381
01:13:44,307 --> 01:13:50,347
Speaker 17: So in the other comment he made about Lea not

1382
01:13:50,427 --> 01:13:52,907
Speaker 17: being able to play eighty minutes, you just spoke about

1383
01:13:52,907 --> 01:13:55,787
Speaker 17: the depth, mate. The fact that he's coming off the

1384
01:13:55,827 --> 01:13:59,027
Speaker 17: bench just shows them still growing that depth with having

1385
01:13:59,107 --> 01:14:03,467
Speaker 17: Leven start how a scene he can go on and

1386
01:14:03,467 --> 01:14:05,747
Speaker 17: play a whole lady, no doubt.

1387
01:14:06,827 --> 01:14:09,187
Speaker 3: Yeah, depth is like I say, you can't want to

1388
01:14:09,787 --> 01:14:12,067
Speaker 3: You can't want to comp with thirteen guys, seventeen guys.

1389
01:14:12,707 --> 01:14:14,907
Speaker 3: You can't. You know, I haven't got the stats in

1390
01:14:14,907 --> 01:14:17,427
Speaker 3: front of me, but I'm almost certain that that championship

1391
01:14:17,427 --> 01:14:20,667
Speaker 3: winning teams would use you know, twenty twenty three, twenty

1392
01:14:20,667 --> 01:14:23,507
Speaker 3: four guys. Yeah, some less than others obviously, but you

1393
01:14:23,547 --> 01:14:25,147
Speaker 3: can't want to comp with seventeen.

1394
01:14:26,027 --> 01:14:28,987
Speaker 17: No and even looking at ten of stounds coming off

1395
01:14:28,987 --> 01:14:31,987
Speaker 17: the bench last night, he came on and just lifted

1396
01:14:31,987 --> 01:14:35,027
Speaker 17: the tempo in the middle. Now, he was someone that

1397
01:14:35,147 --> 01:14:37,667
Speaker 17: was being bled in last year and managed to hold

1398
01:14:37,667 --> 01:14:39,907
Speaker 17: a spot on the consistent basis, and I think he's

1399
01:14:39,907 --> 01:14:41,147
Speaker 17: going to be doing that again this year.

1400
01:14:41,707 --> 01:14:43,547
Speaker 3: Tom Man, Well, good stuff. I'm glad you were the

1401
01:14:43,587 --> 01:14:46,827
Speaker 3: last word made a very very logical and articulate last word.

1402
01:14:46,827 --> 01:14:49,027
Speaker 3: It was good to chat to you mate. Our final

1403
01:14:49,067 --> 01:14:51,387
Speaker 3: text here from Jason got a question, you think the

1404
01:14:51,427 --> 01:14:53,267
Speaker 3: way the Warriors are playing last couple of years will

1405
01:14:53,267 --> 01:14:58,827
Speaker 3: attract more experienced Australian players to New Zealand. Well, I

1406
01:14:58,867 --> 01:15:01,147
Speaker 3: guess I guess it might. Yeah, I guess if you

1407
01:15:01,227 --> 01:15:04,427
Speaker 3: look at a successful team you want to be a

1408
01:15:04,467 --> 01:15:09,547
Speaker 3: part of it. Keen Will more experienced players be keen

1409
01:15:09,587 --> 01:15:11,667
Speaker 3: to play for the Warriors or is there room for

1410
01:15:11,667 --> 01:15:14,107
Speaker 3: a second NRL team? You're certainly room for a second

1411
01:15:14,147 --> 01:15:17,307
Speaker 3: in New Zealand NRAL team. That's probably a different, different conversation,

1412
01:15:17,507 --> 01:15:20,027
Speaker 3: certainly work for Auckland FC. Thanks for all your cause

1413
01:15:20,067 --> 01:15:23,707
Speaker 3: on the Warriors next the Raiders next weekend, will obviously

1414
01:15:23,747 --> 01:15:27,027
Speaker 3: track their progress right across the season. When we come back, though,

1415
01:15:27,067 --> 01:15:30,947
Speaker 3: we'll get back to Australia. Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent,

1416
01:15:31,027 --> 01:15:33,067
Speaker 3: in his regular slot call.

1417
01:15:32,947 --> 01:15:33,907
Speaker 2: Us how you see it?

1418
01:15:34,067 --> 01:15:38,907
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01:15:39,147 --> 01:15:42,707
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1420
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1421
01:15:43,547 --> 01:15:45,867
Speaker 3: Coming up thirteen to two. Let's get you across the Tasman.

1422
01:15:45,867 --> 01:15:49,267
Speaker 3: Adam Peacock is our regular Australian correspondent and he joins

1423
01:15:49,347 --> 01:15:51,387
Speaker 3: us now Adam bit to chat this afternoon on our

1424
01:15:51,427 --> 01:15:54,827
Speaker 3: show about Dave Rennie as new All Blacks head coach.

1425
01:15:54,827 --> 01:15:57,027
Speaker 3: I'm sure that would have would have piqued the interest

1426
01:15:57,107 --> 01:15:59,627
Speaker 3: of many on that side of the Tasman, given the

1427
01:15:59,667 --> 01:16:01,987
Speaker 3: fact that he was a former Wallabies coach. What has

1428
01:16:02,027 --> 01:16:06,787
Speaker 3: the overall reaction been to Dave Rennie's appointment started up.

1429
01:16:06,747 --> 01:16:10,947
Speaker 18: Some emotions, namely, why did he even have to go

1430
01:16:11,027 --> 01:16:13,267
Speaker 18: looking for a job in the first place. In twenty

1431
01:16:13,307 --> 01:16:16,547
Speaker 18: twenty three when Rugby Australia did what it did. It

1432
01:16:16,587 --> 01:16:20,867
Speaker 18: still remains one of the worst years in rugby Australia's history.

1433
01:16:20,867 --> 01:16:25,467
Speaker 18: I think that they are announcing horrible financial problems. They

1434
01:16:25,547 --> 01:16:28,507
Speaker 18: decided to in the dark of night get rid of

1435
01:16:28,707 --> 01:16:31,987
Speaker 18: Dave Brennie after two months after they played the game.

1436
01:16:32,467 --> 01:16:34,627
Speaker 18: They then pulled the Trigg. It wasn't like straight away

1437
01:16:34,667 --> 01:16:37,187
Speaker 18: after spring tour, and then Eddie Jones comes from nowhere

1438
01:16:37,187 --> 01:16:40,227
Speaker 18: to get the job when he wasn't looking likely at all,

1439
01:16:40,267 --> 01:16:41,747
Speaker 18: and then they take him to a World Cup and

1440
01:16:41,747 --> 01:16:44,267
Speaker 18: form out and then Eddie Jones departs after that it

1441
01:16:44,307 --> 01:16:47,067
Speaker 18: was just a calamity and Dave Bernnie, through no fault

1442
01:16:47,067 --> 01:16:49,587
Speaker 18: of his own, was a character and all of that.

1443
01:16:49,707 --> 01:16:52,467
Speaker 18: So I think that from the Australian rugby community, because

1444
01:16:52,747 --> 01:16:55,147
Speaker 18: they got to know day Braining a bit what a

1445
01:16:55,307 --> 01:16:57,947
Speaker 18: quality guy is, that they're actually happy for him, but

1446
01:16:58,067 --> 01:16:59,787
Speaker 18: not going to be too happy if they extend this

1447
01:16:59,867 --> 01:17:02,867
Speaker 18: Bladislaw Cup rout for us in a couple of months time.

1448
01:17:03,307 --> 01:17:06,347
Speaker 3: Do you think if you had to pick at an

1449
01:17:06,467 --> 01:17:10,027
Speaker 3: and take off any parochialism as far as this is concerned,

1450
01:17:10,107 --> 01:17:12,107
Speaker 3: who do you think has been a place eighteen months

1451
01:17:12,107 --> 01:17:15,147
Speaker 3: out from a Rugby World Cup in Australia. To win

1452
01:17:15,187 --> 01:17:17,387
Speaker 3: that Rugby World Cup you or us.

1453
01:17:18,427 --> 01:17:19,827
Speaker 18: I think it's always going to be in New Zealand,

1454
01:17:19,947 --> 01:17:22,067
Speaker 18: just through the death. And this is the point I've

1455
01:17:22,067 --> 01:17:24,587
Speaker 18: long made about the wall of his coaching job. It's

1456
01:17:24,987 --> 01:17:27,707
Speaker 18: the guy Michael Checker, Eddie Jones, Well, he did his

1457
01:17:27,787 --> 01:17:32,187
Speaker 18: own way. He created problems when there weren't problems in

1458
01:17:32,227 --> 01:17:36,147
Speaker 18: my eyes. But take that aside. Joe Smith, Dave Rennie,

1459
01:17:36,347 --> 01:17:40,107
Speaker 18: Michael Checker, they're all updating, not with one hand, time

1460
01:17:40,147 --> 01:17:44,187
Speaker 18: behind their back. But it doesn't help the pathway system,

1461
01:17:44,267 --> 01:17:47,387
Speaker 18: the drain on player stock, The rules we have on

1462
01:17:47,427 --> 01:17:51,707
Speaker 18: players that are playing overseas offer already pretty shallow talent

1463
01:17:51,747 --> 01:17:55,467
Speaker 18: pool that you know, these more A big coaches, it's

1464
01:17:55,467 --> 01:17:57,827
Speaker 18: not easy for them. But Michael Checker making a Rugby

1465
01:17:57,867 --> 01:18:00,787
Speaker 18: World Cup when he is verging on a miracle. So

1466
01:18:01,867 --> 01:18:03,587
Speaker 18: I always think that New Zealand are just going to

1467
01:18:03,627 --> 01:18:05,427
Speaker 18: be a step ahead of us because they've just got

1468
01:18:05,427 --> 01:18:07,987
Speaker 18: more depth of quality. Now I know you've got your

1469
01:18:07,987 --> 01:18:10,587
Speaker 18: issues over there at the moment. Probably yeah. To ask

1470
01:18:10,587 --> 01:18:12,627
Speaker 18: a questions, is it going to be Australia or New

1471
01:18:12,747 --> 01:18:14,787
Speaker 18: Zealand winning the World Cup at this point in time,

1472
01:18:14,827 --> 01:18:17,027
Speaker 18: you're probably going to go option see neither and someone

1473
01:18:17,067 --> 01:18:20,227
Speaker 18: from the Northern Hemisphere or South Africa. But I always

1474
01:18:20,227 --> 01:18:24,027
Speaker 18: think that New Zealand until Rugby Australia really fixes what's

1475
01:18:24,147 --> 01:18:27,227
Speaker 18: what's coming through and it's signs that it's happening. We've

1476
01:18:27,227 --> 01:18:30,267
Speaker 18: got some exciting young outside backs, but we've now got

1477
01:18:30,267 --> 01:18:32,027
Speaker 18: this issue where France are coming in and getting some

1478
01:18:32,067 --> 01:18:34,107
Speaker 18: of our best teenagers and taking them over there and

1479
01:18:34,107 --> 01:18:37,667
Speaker 18: then attempting to naturalize them. So yeah, there's always issues.

1480
01:18:37,667 --> 01:18:40,467
Speaker 18: But to answer your question, you guys, i'd take all.

1481
01:18:40,427 --> 01:18:43,627
Speaker 3: Right, okay, that's good to know your audience, I think

1482
01:18:43,667 --> 01:18:47,347
Speaker 3: when you're on the air open. Yeah, well done. Let's

1483
01:18:47,387 --> 01:18:50,907
Speaker 3: talk the NRL. The Broncos were on the wrong end

1484
01:18:50,947 --> 01:18:54,627
Speaker 3: of the heaviest round one defeat of a defending premiere

1485
01:18:54,747 --> 01:18:58,507
Speaker 3: and NRL history, losing at home twenty six nil to

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Speaker 3: the Panthers last night. Did you see this coming?

1487
01:19:01,427 --> 01:19:03,867
Speaker 18: Yeah, not to that degree. I thought Tenris had had

1488
01:19:04,067 --> 01:19:07,107
Speaker 18: a good showing now, which is so professional, methodic PINRIF

1489
01:19:07,187 --> 01:19:10,227
Speaker 18: at their best, they're just like a well oiled machine

1490
01:19:10,227 --> 01:19:13,227
Speaker 18: when things are clicking, and they just played on the

1491
01:19:13,267 --> 01:19:16,787
Speaker 18: Broncos just being a bit flippant with the ball. Mark

1492
01:19:16,867 --> 01:19:18,707
Speaker 18: mcgois got after the game that we were our own

1493
01:19:18,867 --> 01:19:21,867
Speaker 18: worst enemy, who could hang on to the thing, given away,

1494
01:19:21,907 --> 01:19:24,787
Speaker 18: stupid penalties, all of those things. They went against Broncos,

1495
01:19:24,907 --> 01:19:26,627
Speaker 18: which was Broncos in the first half of the season

1496
01:19:26,667 --> 01:19:29,187
Speaker 18: up until about round thirteen last year and then something clicked.

1497
01:19:29,187 --> 01:19:31,427
Speaker 18: So you can't get ahead of yourself and saying, oh,

1498
01:19:31,427 --> 01:19:33,547
Speaker 18: they're going to have a horrible year off one performance,

1499
01:19:33,587 --> 01:19:35,427
Speaker 18: but there's a lot to fix. And they played Paramatta

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01:19:35,467 --> 01:19:38,387
Speaker 18: next week to themselves. Got absolutely belted by Melbourne on

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01:19:38,467 --> 01:19:41,667
Speaker 18: Thursday night, so that'll be a closer watching them. Ordinarily

1502
01:19:41,707 --> 01:19:43,547
Speaker 18: it might have been for a round to the game.

1503
01:19:43,627 --> 01:19:45,947
Speaker 3: Now, what about the Melbourne Storm. I mean, I know,

1504
01:19:46,027 --> 01:19:48,467
Speaker 3: we know that they're good, but they're all I mean,

1505
01:19:48,787 --> 01:19:50,347
Speaker 3: as that's a stake in the ground. As I know

1506
01:19:50,387 --> 01:19:53,587
Speaker 3: it was against the Eels who have had their challenges,

1507
01:19:53,627 --> 01:19:56,307
Speaker 3: but putting fifty on in round one, it's I think

1508
01:19:56,307 --> 01:19:59,387
Speaker 3: there's twenty three and zero now for Craig Bellamy in

1509
01:19:59,467 --> 01:20:00,987
Speaker 3: opening rounds of the NRL.

1510
01:20:01,867 --> 01:20:03,827
Speaker 18: Yeah, twenty three or twenty four. What it is is

1511
01:20:03,867 --> 01:20:06,947
Speaker 18: a remarkable streak. He never lost a round once. Watching

1512
01:20:06,947 --> 01:20:11,227
Speaker 18: that game. It was we talk about the like how

1513
01:20:12,827 --> 01:20:15,227
Speaker 18: structure in Penris were about doing what they had to

1514
01:20:15,227 --> 01:20:18,027
Speaker 18: do and then just adding a bit of flair. Melbourne

1515
01:20:18,027 --> 01:20:20,307
Speaker 18: freaks out. It trade go on. He coaches that team

1516
01:20:20,427 --> 01:20:24,387
Speaker 18: like so well about the little things that we don't notice,

1517
01:20:24,747 --> 01:20:28,027
Speaker 18: about the role players playing their role as well as

1518
01:20:28,067 --> 01:20:31,387
Speaker 18: they can, because that benefits the team. No one looks

1519
01:20:31,467 --> 01:20:33,667
Speaker 18: unsure of what they need to be doing, like with

1520
01:20:33,787 --> 01:20:36,387
Speaker 18: the ball and play three or four. They're very good

1521
01:20:36,387 --> 01:20:38,827
Speaker 18: in the rut defensively, which kind of quells the momentum

1522
01:20:38,867 --> 01:20:41,627
Speaker 18: in the opposition. They just do that at another level

1523
01:20:41,667 --> 01:20:43,507
Speaker 18: and they did that to the taraman of the other

1524
01:20:43,587 --> 01:20:46,507
Speaker 18: night who had no answers. And yeah, any insecurities you've

1525
01:20:46,507 --> 01:20:48,227
Speaker 18: got to against Melbourne when they're in a mood like that,

1526
01:20:48,227 --> 01:20:49,267
Speaker 18: you're going to get found out.

1527
01:20:49,627 --> 01:20:51,907
Speaker 3: And just want to ask you about the Grand Prix

1528
01:20:51,907 --> 01:20:53,907
Speaker 3: and Melbourne. I mean, we're such a busy time. The

1529
01:20:53,987 --> 01:20:58,867
Speaker 3: NRL season's underway, AFL underway, We've got Super Rugby carrying on,

1530
01:20:58,947 --> 01:21:01,747
Speaker 3: a league heating towards its final series. Where does if

1531
01:21:01,747 --> 01:21:04,267
Speaker 3: one fit undermongst all this, how does it cut through?

1532
01:21:05,067 --> 01:21:05,227
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1533
01:21:05,267 --> 01:21:07,827
Speaker 18: Clearly the excellent Funday don't will watch. Yeah, it is.

1534
01:21:07,987 --> 01:21:10,947
Speaker 18: It is a heightened interest, and especially with Oscar Piastri

1535
01:21:10,987 --> 01:21:13,507
Speaker 18: with a light chance of winning Grand Prix. So he's

1536
01:21:13,747 --> 01:21:16,067
Speaker 18: he's massive early year, Like in Alburt, he's doing story

1537
01:21:16,067 --> 01:21:18,667
Speaker 18: appearances and it's like a freaking rock star. It's like

1538
01:21:18,787 --> 01:21:22,667
Speaker 18: Justin Bieber rocking up. So yeah, he's a massive star

1539
01:21:22,867 --> 01:21:26,147
Speaker 18: the Formula One. But the decision to do what they

1540
01:21:26,147 --> 01:21:28,387
Speaker 18: did to drive to survive and expand their audience and

1541
01:21:28,707 --> 01:21:33,027
Speaker 18: expand their catchment is just one of the great master

1542
01:21:33,067 --> 01:21:35,587
Speaker 18: strokes of all time. So yeah, there's a lot of

1543
01:21:35,627 --> 01:21:38,427
Speaker 18: interest about it. And yeah, the front of the grid

1544
01:21:38,467 --> 01:21:41,067
Speaker 18: this year, we've got no idea what's going to happen

1545
01:21:41,107 --> 01:21:43,707
Speaker 18: with the cars. They've trained the regulations like never before,

1546
01:21:43,747 --> 01:21:45,867
Speaker 18: so who knows going to have the quickness. We'll find

1547
01:21:45,867 --> 01:21:48,507
Speaker 18: out after qualifying later today. But what we do know

1548
01:21:48,627 --> 01:21:51,107
Speaker 18: is that after Martin has got well I reckon my matter,

1549
01:21:51,147 --> 01:21:52,587
Speaker 18: the three could give it a run for the money.

1550
01:21:52,787 --> 01:21:55,307
Speaker 18: They were in practice first practice of thirty seconds off

1551
01:21:55,307 --> 01:21:59,107
Speaker 18: the take, which for and I'm talking for a lap

1552
01:21:59,147 --> 01:22:01,267
Speaker 18: that takes him in a twenty that's a lot. So

1553
01:22:01,867 --> 01:22:04,347
Speaker 18: there's a there's a looming disaster there, which adds the

1554
01:22:04,427 --> 01:22:07,587
Speaker 18: layer of intrigue as well, because that's so we love

1555
01:22:07,627 --> 01:22:11,307
Speaker 18: watching brilliance, but we are intrigued when things go horribly

1556
01:22:11,307 --> 01:22:13,267
Speaker 18: horribly wrong as well. It looks like it has there

1557
01:22:13,467 --> 01:22:13,867
Speaker 18: all right.

1558
01:22:13,947 --> 01:22:16,667
Speaker 3: Such an interesting time and if one, interesting time is

1559
01:22:16,667 --> 01:22:19,347
Speaker 3: always on your side of the tasman. Adam, thanks as

1560
01:22:19,347 --> 01:22:21,747
Speaker 3: always for updating us. We'll do it again next Saturday.

1561
01:22:21,867 --> 01:22:23,507
Speaker 18: She's funny. Thanks Mane, No, thank.

1562
01:22:23,387 --> 01:22:25,467
Speaker 3: You, mate, Adam Peacock out of Australia. Seven to two

1563
01:22:25,587 --> 01:22:26,267
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB.

1564
01:22:27,547 --> 01:22:30,507
Speaker 1: The big names and the big calls on your Home

1565
01:22:30,547 --> 01:22:34,907
Speaker 1: of Sport, Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News Talks.

1566
01:22:34,667 --> 01:22:38,787
Speaker 3: EDB two o'clock after two. Tom Walsh heading to the

1567
01:22:38,867 --> 01:22:41,627
Speaker 3: National Track and Field Champs in search of a fifteenth

1568
01:22:42,187 --> 01:22:45,667
Speaker 3: National Men's shop put title, and we'll also head to

1569
01:22:45,747 --> 01:22:48,987
Speaker 3: Melbourne Alex Powell ahead of qualifying in the Form one

1570
01:22:49,027 --> 01:22:49,547
Speaker 3: Grand Prix.

1571
01:22:50,827 --> 01:22:54,147
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on.

1572
01:22:55,827 --> 01:22:56,787
Speaker 2: Head off the field.

1573
01:22:56,907 --> 01:22:57,707
Speaker 8: You got a story.

1574
01:22:58,147 --> 01:23:01,267
Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your

1575
01:23:01,307 --> 01:23:04,067
Speaker 1: Home of Sport News Talks EDB.

1576
01:23:05,307 --> 01:23:08,227
Speaker 3: Get there six past two, Jason Pine, Mark Cally alongside.

1577
01:23:08,227 --> 01:23:10,827
Speaker 3: We're here till three on weekend sport. Now I've just

1578
01:23:10,867 --> 01:23:15,587
Speaker 3: been handed, just been handed some exciting, excellent news if

1579
01:23:15,587 --> 01:23:18,947
Speaker 3: I could even get it our Auckland FC Perth Glory

1580
01:23:19,147 --> 01:23:22,707
Speaker 3: tomorrow three o'clock Go Media Stadium. That is in the

1581
01:23:22,747 --> 01:23:25,627
Speaker 3: exciting part. We knew that was happening. The exciting part

1582
01:23:25,787 --> 01:23:29,947
Speaker 3: is that I've got a six ticket family pass up

1583
01:23:29,947 --> 01:23:33,227
Speaker 3: for grabs, six tickets to go along tomorrow in the

1584
01:23:33,267 --> 01:23:37,587
Speaker 3: Sunshine in Auckland, we hope, three o'clock against Perth Glory.

1585
01:23:38,827 --> 01:23:41,707
Speaker 3: If you are in the Auckland region or can get

1586
01:23:41,747 --> 01:23:45,227
Speaker 3: to Go Media Stadium tomorrow and you would like to

1587
01:23:45,227 --> 01:23:48,467
Speaker 3: be in the drawer for these six tickets, simply text

1588
01:23:48,587 --> 01:23:52,227
Speaker 3: AFC and your name to nine two nine two. Now

1589
01:23:52,227 --> 01:23:54,547
Speaker 3: you need to do it quickly. We're going to give

1590
01:23:54,627 --> 01:23:56,267
Speaker 3: this away before the end of the show and that's

1591
01:23:56,267 --> 01:23:59,667
Speaker 3: three o'clock. So what does the text? Takes you a

1592
01:23:59,667 --> 01:24:02,307
Speaker 3: few seconds to do it, doesn't it? So send you

1593
01:24:02,427 --> 01:24:07,387
Speaker 3: text AFC and your name to nine two ninety two

1594
01:24:07,867 --> 01:24:10,347
Speaker 3: six tickets to watch Auckland FC against Perth Glory tomorrow

1595
01:24:10,387 --> 01:24:12,587
Speaker 3: three o'clock at Go Media Stadium. Will announce the winner

1596
01:24:13,147 --> 01:24:15,387
Speaker 3: before the end of the show. Great stuff, Thank you

1597
01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:17,667
Speaker 3: very much. Indeed, to the team at Auckland FC for

1598
01:24:17,707 --> 01:24:21,667
Speaker 3: making those tickets available to us between now and three o'clock,

1599
01:24:21,667 --> 01:24:24,267
Speaker 3: as well as announcing that winner. I'm going to talk

1600
01:24:24,307 --> 01:24:27,347
Speaker 3: to Tom Walsh. He is in the shotput circle again

1601
01:24:27,387 --> 01:24:30,667
Speaker 3: tonight at the National Track and Field Champs. If he wins,

1602
01:24:30,707 --> 01:24:35,107
Speaker 3: it would be his fifteenth national men's shot put title.

1603
01:24:35,147 --> 01:24:37,947
Speaker 3: Would you believe incredible? From Tom Walsh. He's with us

1604
01:24:38,147 --> 01:24:41,467
Speaker 3: very shortly. Alex powellers in Melbourne Forest, New Zealand Herald

1605
01:24:41,507 --> 01:24:44,827
Speaker 3: Motorsport writer. He can give us all the details on

1606
01:24:44,987 --> 01:24:48,027
Speaker 3: free practices one and two yesterday and the third practice

1607
01:24:48,027 --> 01:24:50,627
Speaker 3: about to get under way, qualifying later on tonight, the

1608
01:24:50,707 --> 01:24:54,667
Speaker 3: race tomorrow. How's Liam Lawson looking? How's everybody looking? There

1609
01:24:54,707 --> 01:24:59,707
Speaker 3: was a great degree of curiosity around how the new

1610
01:24:59,707 --> 01:25:01,707
Speaker 3: power systems in the car would work that sort of thing.

1611
01:25:01,747 --> 01:25:04,907
Speaker 3: Alex Powers with us from Melbourne Live in the next

1612
01:25:04,907 --> 01:25:09,507
Speaker 3: little while and Alislie this afternoon is set to absolutely

1613
01:25:09,587 --> 01:25:14,947
Speaker 3: go off because the NZB KIWI is happening at Allesley

1614
01:25:15,027 --> 01:25:18,267
Speaker 3: this afternoon, the richest three year old race in the

1615
01:25:18,307 --> 01:25:22,867
Speaker 3: Southern Hemisphere. Four million dollars in the NZB Kiwi up

1616
01:25:22,907 --> 01:25:27,747
Speaker 3: for grabs. Well written is an almost unbackable. Favorite Andrew

1617
01:25:27,747 --> 01:25:30,547
Speaker 3: Gordy is going to join us from Allesleie to tell

1618
01:25:30,627 --> 01:25:33,787
Speaker 3: us more before three o'clock. Our lines of communication, as

1619
01:25:33,827 --> 01:25:36,787
Speaker 3: always are open. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1620
01:25:36,867 --> 01:25:38,947
Speaker 3: gets you. Throw on the phone nine two nine two

1621
01:25:38,947 --> 01:25:42,747
Speaker 3: for your texts emails into Jason at NEWSTALKZEDB dot co

1622
01:25:43,067 --> 01:25:47,467
Speaker 3: dot nz. But as we tick past nine past two,

1623
01:25:47,747 --> 01:25:50,067
Speaker 3: as we always do, it's time to catch you up

1624
01:25:50,067 --> 01:25:52,587
Speaker 3: on a few things that you might have missed in

1625
01:25:52,867 --> 01:25:56,187
Speaker 3: case you missed it, starting in the Six Nations where

1626
01:25:56,307 --> 01:25:58,347
Speaker 3: Ireland have survived a scare.

1627
01:25:59,227 --> 01:26:01,587
Speaker 19: Please come, he's got the past.

1628
01:26:02,907 --> 01:26:09,627
Speaker 2: Time driven shield. Try for the prop board.

1629
01:26:09,987 --> 01:26:12,667
Speaker 5: Get some cart. There's an opportunity if.

1630
01:26:12,547 --> 01:26:13,387
Speaker 19: They here's the word.

1631
01:26:14,267 --> 01:26:21,547
Speaker 20: If they do those horn scores Roland catchup, trike wlisure,

1632
01:26:22,467 --> 01:26:31,147
Speaker 20: pray an exhaustion all around the stadium in Dublin's Island.

1633
01:26:30,787 --> 01:26:32,867
Speaker 12: Got their chike arms from victory.

1634
01:26:33,027 --> 01:26:35,387
Speaker 3: Yeah they've hung on to beat the Welsh twenty seven

1635
01:26:35,827 --> 01:26:39,947
Speaker 3: seventeen in Dublin, close to the home the Chiefs, bouncing

1636
01:26:40,067 --> 01:26:44,467
Speaker 3: back from last weekend's defeat to the Crusaders rather emphatically,

1637
01:26:44,707 --> 01:26:48,347
Speaker 3: running in nine tries in a fifty seven twenty four

1638
01:26:48,427 --> 01:26:51,907
Speaker 3: win over Mowana Pacifica in Hamilton last night.

1639
01:26:52,267 --> 01:26:55,467
Speaker 20: Give it a Mackenzie, Mackenzie put it on the inside.

1640
01:26:55,587 --> 01:26:58,347
Speaker 12: This young man has the first touch of his game.

1641
01:26:58,467 --> 01:27:00,587
Speaker 5: Carl Brown scores under the posts.

1642
01:27:00,707 --> 01:27:03,787
Speaker 3: After that, the Hurricanes hammered the Warres House in Sydney,

1643
01:27:04,067 --> 01:27:04,667
Speaker 3: running more.

1644
01:27:04,547 --> 01:27:08,667
Speaker 21: Walking away, sure Paul a brilliant short Paul to be

1645
01:27:09,027 --> 01:27:10,787
Speaker 21: and no phone into.

1646
01:27:10,427 --> 01:27:12,747
Speaker 12: A Narry and a Narry will score.

1647
01:27:13,067 --> 01:27:19,867
Speaker 21: Proctor's gonna score ah try number nine for the Hurricanes

1648
01:27:21,147 --> 01:27:24,027
Speaker 21: and a massive statement from the Hurricanes.

1649
01:27:24,347 --> 01:27:27,907
Speaker 12: They've gone to Allian's Stadium and they have hammered the

1650
01:27:27,947 --> 01:27:31,507
Speaker 12: Waratas by fifty nine points to nineteen.

1651
01:27:31,787 --> 01:27:34,707
Speaker 3: Still in Australia, the Wellington Phoenix have climbed off the

1652
01:27:34,707 --> 01:27:37,147
Speaker 3: foot of the A League Men's ladder with a one

1653
01:27:37,387 --> 01:27:40,627
Speaker 3: one draw at Adelaide's Fall.

1654
01:27:40,507 --> 01:27:43,147
Speaker 22: Baptized the head of Corman taper Well.

1655
01:27:43,187 --> 01:27:45,867
Speaker 5: They are the pre king and he heads.

1656
01:27:45,707 --> 01:27:46,387
Speaker 22: It home.

1657
01:27:47,867 --> 01:27:54,667
Speaker 21: Fantastic in the air, the Wellington number three and those

1658
01:27:54,747 --> 01:27:56,987
Speaker 21: Knicks fans can celebrate.

1659
01:27:57,867 --> 01:28:01,107
Speaker 2: Oh good little boy, you it's cryptain. You've still.

1660
01:28:04,267 --> 01:28:07,667
Speaker 19: Third time, lucky to look you've been since time.

1661
01:28:07,547 --> 01:28:10,747
Speaker 3: He makes no first Yeah one one. It finished there

1662
01:28:10,747 --> 01:28:14,667
Speaker 3: at Cooper Stadium in Adelaidley and Law some content with

1663
01:28:14,827 --> 01:28:18,547
Speaker 3: his first day's efforts at the Formula one Australian Grand Prix,

1664
01:28:19,347 --> 01:28:22,867
Speaker 3: a thirteenth place finish in each of the two practice sessions.

1665
01:28:23,427 --> 01:28:26,107
Speaker 23: To be honest, yeah, we actually had quite a decent

1666
01:28:26,187 --> 01:28:30,107
Speaker 23: day in terms of labs completed. We pretty much completed

1667
01:28:30,107 --> 01:28:34,467
Speaker 23: our run plan which was good. So overall pretty happy.

1668
01:28:34,507 --> 01:28:37,267
Speaker 23: I think the speed it is not too bad as well,

1669
01:28:38,507 --> 01:28:40,507
Speaker 23: especially for day one. You know, obviously we're trying to

1670
01:28:41,107 --> 01:28:43,067
Speaker 23: improve as much as we can, but to roll out

1671
01:28:43,107 --> 01:28:46,507
Speaker 23: here with a decent car all from online simulations and

1672
01:28:46,547 --> 01:28:48,627
Speaker 23: the limited running we've done, it's pretty it's pretty good.

1673
01:28:48,667 --> 01:28:50,907
Speaker 24: So yeah, pretty happy.

1674
01:28:51,147 --> 01:28:54,347
Speaker 3: And finally Scotty McLachlin the best of the kiwi's qualifying

1675
01:28:54,467 --> 01:28:57,867
Speaker 3: fifth for the latest Indiecar race in Phoenix, Arizona.

1676
01:28:58,027 --> 01:29:01,027
Speaker 19: Another adjustment on the front bar and a big left

1677
01:29:01,067 --> 01:29:02,147
Speaker 19: and one and two way.

1678
01:29:02,067 --> 01:29:04,747
Speaker 9: High tells you everything you need to know about just

1679
01:29:04,867 --> 01:29:06,147
Speaker 9: how good that lab was.

1680
01:29:06,507 --> 01:29:09,867
Speaker 12: David Malucas, Scott McLaughlin.

1681
01:29:10,867 --> 01:29:13,427
Speaker 2: Will it be two in a row? It will not,

1682
01:29:15,147 --> 01:29:17,547
Speaker 2: and it's not. Be Apenskey won two three.

1683
01:29:17,947 --> 01:29:22,107
Speaker 3: Mick Schumacher has all qualified. Scott McLachlan. As you can

1684
01:29:22,187 --> 01:29:24,867
Speaker 3: see Malucas getting very excited.

1685
01:29:25,587 --> 01:29:29,307
Speaker 2: When there's a line call. It's your call. Weekend Sport

1686
01:29:29,667 --> 01:29:32,387
Speaker 2: with Jason five News TALKSB.

1687
01:29:33,347 --> 01:29:36,907
Speaker 3: News Talks, HEB and Weekend Sport across to Melbourne in

1688
01:29:36,987 --> 01:29:40,947
Speaker 3: the next little while for Grand Prix Chat. But New

1689
01:29:41,027 --> 01:29:45,307
Speaker 3: Zealand's most decorated shot putter is back in the circle tonight,

1690
01:29:45,387 --> 01:29:48,707
Speaker 3: chasing a fifteenth national title at the New Zealand Track

1691
01:29:48,747 --> 01:29:53,587
Speaker 3: and Field Championship. Twenty seventeen World champion, three time indoor

1692
01:29:53,827 --> 01:29:58,747
Speaker 3: World champion, including last year, double Olympic medalist, double defending

1693
01:29:58,867 --> 01:30:03,907
Speaker 3: Commonwealth Games Champion, thirteen time Diamond League event winner and

1694
01:30:04,147 --> 01:30:09,307
Speaker 3: four time Diamond League Champion. Tom Walsh, of course, is

1695
01:30:09,347 --> 01:30:12,547
Speaker 3: who we're talking about. He remains the benchmark in New

1696
01:30:12,627 --> 01:30:15,867
Speaker 3: Zealand men's shot put and he joins us now with

1697
01:30:16,067 --> 01:30:20,747
Speaker 3: such a glittering resume, Tom, what motivates you still at

1698
01:30:20,787 --> 01:30:22,467
Speaker 3: a national championship level?

1699
01:30:24,267 --> 01:30:25,067
Speaker 25: Can you say that again?

1700
01:30:25,147 --> 01:30:25,467
Speaker 4: Honey?

1701
01:30:25,507 --> 01:30:26,987
Speaker 5: For me, that sounded bloody good, didn't it.

1702
01:30:29,227 --> 01:30:29,307
Speaker 15: Now?

1703
01:30:29,387 --> 01:30:31,947
Speaker 25: Look at it's Look, I just love what I do.

1704
01:30:32,227 --> 01:30:34,907
Speaker 25: I think at the end of the day, and I

1705
01:30:35,267 --> 01:30:37,187
Speaker 25: wake up every morning and I get to throw a

1706
01:30:37,267 --> 01:30:38,987
Speaker 25: rock for a living and it's pretty bloody good. So

1707
01:30:40,067 --> 01:30:43,067
Speaker 25: I really enjoyed it. I enjoy the challenge of getting

1708
01:30:43,067 --> 01:30:45,147
Speaker 25: it right as much as it frustrates me. And at

1709
01:30:45,147 --> 01:30:47,867
Speaker 25: the moment, I'm in a real frustrating point where I've

1710
01:30:47,947 --> 01:30:50,467
Speaker 25: got some juice in the tank, but I'm just not

1711
01:30:50,627 --> 01:30:53,907
Speaker 25: using it effectively. So you know, today I hopefully you

1712
01:30:54,067 --> 01:30:56,747
Speaker 25: can put things together, and things are feeling like they're

1713
01:30:56,747 --> 01:31:00,067
Speaker 25: getting closer and closer. But it's I guess the question

1714
01:31:00,187 --> 01:31:02,307
Speaker 25: is what you know what motivates me? And it's just

1715
01:31:02,347 --> 01:31:04,547
Speaker 25: about getting it right, still trying to get it right,

1716
01:31:04,667 --> 01:31:07,147
Speaker 25: trying to get that ball going a long way. For

1717
01:31:07,267 --> 01:31:11,187
Speaker 25: some reason, after she's thirteen or fourteen years, it still

1718
01:31:11,227 --> 01:31:12,627
Speaker 25: excites me brilliant.

1719
01:31:12,667 --> 01:31:15,867
Speaker 3: So during periods of frustration, and I'm sure you've had

1720
01:31:15,947 --> 01:31:18,507
Speaker 3: them throughout your career, where do you place your focus?

1721
01:31:19,867 --> 01:31:25,187
Speaker 25: Sometimes I'm not on the right things. But at the moment,

1722
01:31:25,347 --> 01:31:28,467
Speaker 25: at the moment, you know, we're really clear with me

1723
01:31:28,507 --> 01:31:30,907
Speaker 25: and my team around what we're trying to do while

1724
01:31:30,947 --> 01:31:33,107
Speaker 25: we're trying to do it and also trying to be

1725
01:31:33,147 --> 01:31:35,907
Speaker 25: aware of for me is the long term goal like

1726
01:31:36,027 --> 01:31:39,267
Speaker 25: this year. The long term goal this year is obviously

1727
01:31:39,507 --> 01:31:43,107
Speaker 25: to win Commonwealth Games and to win the DINA League.

1728
01:31:43,947 --> 01:31:46,907
Speaker 25: And don't get me wrong, winning national championships is good,

1729
01:31:47,867 --> 01:31:50,347
Speaker 25: but it doesn't If I don't win national championships, it

1730
01:31:50,387 --> 01:31:52,547
Speaker 25: doesn't mean I can't do the other things. And so

1731
01:31:52,667 --> 01:31:56,627
Speaker 25: as long as I am progressing towards getting better and

1732
01:31:57,027 --> 01:32:00,187
Speaker 25: to that bigger picture, then that's what we're trying to do.

1733
01:32:00,267 --> 01:32:02,587
Speaker 25: And look, I don't always get that right. I get

1734
01:32:02,827 --> 01:32:05,587
Speaker 25: very short sighted sometimes and what up now and get

1735
01:32:05,747 --> 01:32:09,187
Speaker 25: pissed off frustrated. So I'm not perfect, but at the

1736
01:32:09,267 --> 01:32:11,427
Speaker 25: moment I'm in a good spot. I understand the bigger

1737
01:32:11,467 --> 01:32:12,147
Speaker 25: picture quite well.

1738
01:32:12,507 --> 01:32:15,627
Speaker 3: Are you still refining parts of your throw even at

1739
01:32:15,667 --> 01:32:17,067
Speaker 3: the stage of your career.

1740
01:32:18,427 --> 01:32:21,867
Speaker 25: Yeah, definitely. I think it's like anything anyone who plays

1741
01:32:21,907 --> 01:32:26,067
Speaker 25: any sport. There's always tweaks and we changes right, and

1742
01:32:26,827 --> 01:32:29,027
Speaker 25: there's things that I've done I'm doing better than I've

1743
01:32:29,067 --> 01:32:31,707
Speaker 25: ever done, and there's things that I'm not doing as

1744
01:32:31,747 --> 01:32:34,027
Speaker 25: well as what I have done before. So it's just

1745
01:32:34,107 --> 01:32:38,187
Speaker 25: about trying to get that right, and it's ever ever

1746
01:32:38,347 --> 01:32:41,507
Speaker 25: balancing act right and then trying to get it right

1747
01:32:41,627 --> 01:32:44,067
Speaker 25: and be comfortable in the circle.

1748
01:32:43,867 --> 01:32:44,507
Speaker 6: To just let it go.

1749
01:32:46,387 --> 01:32:49,067
Speaker 3: So in terms of your outcomes then, I mean, it's

1750
01:32:49,067 --> 01:32:50,107
Speaker 3: all quantifiable, isn't it.

1751
01:32:50,147 --> 01:32:50,307
Speaker 6: Tom.

1752
01:32:50,307 --> 01:32:51,947
Speaker 3: You know there's a distance every time you throw it,

1753
01:32:52,027 --> 01:32:54,187
Speaker 3: there's a distance that gets put up on a board.

1754
01:32:54,467 --> 01:32:58,907
Speaker 3: Are you able to look beyond the quantifiable to say, actually,

1755
01:32:58,987 --> 01:33:01,147
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good about it at the moment and

1756
01:33:01,267 --> 01:33:03,427
Speaker 3: not worry too much about what distances you throwing?

1757
01:33:05,547 --> 01:33:09,347
Speaker 25: John Quinn Sports psychologists would love to say, love for

1758
01:33:09,467 --> 01:33:11,907
Speaker 25: me to say, yeah, I can look past it, but

1759
01:33:13,307 --> 01:33:18,267
Speaker 25: look not always. And that's probably the point I'm have

1760
01:33:18,467 --> 01:33:21,147
Speaker 25: been at last probably three or four weeks and now,

1761
01:33:21,547 --> 01:33:24,307
Speaker 25: as I said before Piney, seeing the bigger picture a

1762
01:33:24,347 --> 01:33:26,587
Speaker 25: little bit, trying to remove myself from the here and

1763
01:33:26,667 --> 01:33:30,427
Speaker 25: now and know that we are we are going really well.

1764
01:33:30,507 --> 01:33:32,947
Speaker 25: They are Like physically, I'm the best shape I've probably

1765
01:33:32,987 --> 01:33:35,027
Speaker 25: ever been at this time of year. Now, the challenge

1766
01:33:35,107 --> 01:33:37,587
Speaker 25: is about getting it into the ball and that's the

1767
01:33:37,667 --> 01:33:40,267
Speaker 25: hard part. But that's the beauty about my sport is

1768
01:33:40,827 --> 01:33:43,707
Speaker 25: that it's really clear. Do you either throw it or

1769
01:33:43,787 --> 01:33:46,227
Speaker 25: you don't. You either throw twenty two meters or you don't.

1770
01:33:46,347 --> 01:33:48,827
Speaker 25: You know, it's really clean cut. It's no one's opinions

1771
01:33:48,827 --> 01:33:50,947
Speaker 25: about it or anything like that. It's just done. So

1772
01:33:51,147 --> 01:33:52,947
Speaker 25: that's what I love about it, but also something that

1773
01:33:53,027 --> 01:33:54,467
Speaker 25: drives me at all sometimes do.

1774
01:33:55,507 --> 01:33:57,227
Speaker 3: So, yeah, through what twenty point eight three to win

1775
01:33:57,267 --> 01:33:59,027
Speaker 3: in christ you twenty point eight oh to win in

1776
01:33:59,067 --> 01:34:02,307
Speaker 3: Auckland last month? Do you have a target for this

1777
01:34:02,467 --> 01:34:03,867
Speaker 3: weekend or not? Really?

1778
01:34:05,067 --> 01:34:05,187
Speaker 7: Oh?

1779
01:34:05,347 --> 01:34:08,227
Speaker 25: Look, we we do in our team situation, we do

1780
01:34:08,747 --> 01:34:11,507
Speaker 25: kind of put some markers in the ground around each

1781
01:34:11,587 --> 01:34:15,187
Speaker 25: comp and realistically, I've been behind them in both competitions

1782
01:34:15,227 --> 01:34:18,387
Speaker 25: where I needed to be. And so I know Jacko

1783
01:34:18,707 --> 01:34:23,747
Speaker 25: loves throwing in Auckland and loves throwing at so I

1784
01:34:23,827 --> 01:34:26,067
Speaker 25: think I'll need, you know, I'll need well into the

1785
01:34:26,107 --> 01:34:30,827
Speaker 25: twenty ones to be competitive with him this weekend. But look,

1786
01:34:31,067 --> 01:34:32,947
Speaker 25: the wild and Doors is just around the corner to

1787
01:34:33,067 --> 01:34:36,027
Speaker 25: and and I'm I guess one thing I have with experiences,

1788
01:34:36,107 --> 01:34:39,387
Speaker 25: I know how fast with me, how fast things can

1789
01:34:39,427 --> 01:34:42,867
Speaker 25: come good when they come good. So I've just got

1790
01:34:42,947 --> 01:34:45,267
Speaker 25: to be patient as we talk about, mate, I've to

1791
01:34:45,307 --> 01:34:48,667
Speaker 25: be patient, try and remind myself of that bigger picture

1792
01:34:48,747 --> 01:34:51,067
Speaker 25: and what we're really trying to do this year. And

1793
01:34:51,907 --> 01:34:53,907
Speaker 25: trust you know you hear about it all the time,

1794
01:34:53,947 --> 01:34:56,707
Speaker 25: trust the process that we are doing the right things

1795
01:34:56,747 --> 01:34:57,987
Speaker 25: and we are working on the right things.

1796
01:34:58,187 --> 01:35:00,707
Speaker 3: Do you enjoy your work with your mental skills coach

1797
01:35:00,787 --> 01:35:02,307
Speaker 3: John Quinn? Is that something you enjoy?

1798
01:35:03,467 --> 01:35:03,627
Speaker 7: Oh?

1799
01:35:03,987 --> 01:35:04,347
Speaker 15: Jeezus.

1800
01:35:04,547 --> 01:35:06,627
Speaker 25: Me and Quinny have worked together. I actually the first

1801
01:35:06,627 --> 01:35:09,027
Speaker 25: time I met when he was in I think two

1802
01:35:09,067 --> 01:35:11,627
Speaker 25: thousand and nine and he was giving a speech to

1803
01:35:11,747 --> 01:35:13,747
Speaker 25: the Kennery under seventeen cricket team that I was in.

1804
01:35:14,187 --> 01:35:16,947
Speaker 25: So we've got a long long history together.

1805
01:35:17,067 --> 01:35:18,427
Speaker 6: But it's.

1806
01:35:19,827 --> 01:35:25,227
Speaker 25: Challenging, right because mental skills stuff is not it's not glamorous.

1807
01:35:25,947 --> 01:35:28,547
Speaker 25: You know, no one really like you don't get any

1808
01:35:28,627 --> 01:35:31,667
Speaker 25: kudos for it, right, and so it is really tough.

1809
01:35:31,867 --> 01:35:34,747
Speaker 25: And also to do it well, you've got to you've

1810
01:35:34,747 --> 01:35:38,347
Speaker 25: got to be incredibly honest with who you're dealing with,

1811
01:35:38,827 --> 01:35:40,547
Speaker 25: who's just trying to help you, because if you're not

1812
01:35:41,027 --> 01:35:44,507
Speaker 25: completely honest, then you know that they can only help

1813
01:35:44,587 --> 01:35:46,787
Speaker 25: you as much as they know, right. So it is

1814
01:35:46,827 --> 01:35:49,707
Speaker 25: a very challenging field. But it's something that I know

1815
01:35:49,787 --> 01:35:51,827
Speaker 25: when I'm throwing well and in a good space, I'm.

1816
01:35:51,747 --> 01:35:52,307
Speaker 6: Doing that well.

1817
01:35:52,507 --> 01:35:54,267
Speaker 3: And just i'd want to ask you about the old

1818
01:35:54,307 --> 01:35:57,107
Speaker 3: Theodora Athletics Trust as well. You and hamies Kirk co

1819
01:35:57,267 --> 01:36:00,227
Speaker 3: founded it to help funder merging track and field athletes.

1820
01:36:00,507 --> 01:36:02,067
Speaker 3: Tell us a bit about the motivation behind that.

1821
01:36:03,227 --> 01:36:05,787
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think you know, both Hams and I are

1822
01:36:05,907 --> 01:36:08,067
Speaker 25: very lucky now we are in our career where where

1823
01:36:08,147 --> 01:36:10,387
Speaker 25: are you know, on the world stage. We get into

1824
01:36:10,427 --> 01:36:13,587
Speaker 25: any comps we want, and there's prize money and appearance

1825
01:36:13,627 --> 01:36:16,427
Speaker 25: fees and travel stiphens to go with that, right, But

1826
01:36:16,867 --> 01:36:18,987
Speaker 25: we also know the other side of the coin when

1827
01:36:19,027 --> 01:36:22,067
Speaker 25: we were coming up, both of us that it's not

1828
01:36:22,267 --> 01:36:24,627
Speaker 25: like that when essentially if you're outside the top ten

1829
01:36:24,707 --> 01:36:26,547
Speaker 25: in the world, top fifteen in the world and a

1830
01:36:26,627 --> 01:36:29,587
Speaker 25: lot of events, it's it's pretty tricky business to kind

1831
01:36:29,627 --> 01:36:31,827
Speaker 25: of get over to Europe or get into some of

1832
01:36:31,867 --> 01:36:33,787
Speaker 25: these competitions. So we kind of thought, well, how can

1833
01:36:33,867 --> 01:36:37,427
Speaker 25: we help that next generation, that development those development athletes

1834
01:36:37,467 --> 01:36:40,347
Speaker 25: where that don't get a lot of support just because

1835
01:36:40,347 --> 01:36:42,867
Speaker 25: of the nature of the sport itself. And so we

1836
01:36:42,947 --> 01:36:45,427
Speaker 25: tried to put put our hand up there and put

1837
01:36:45,467 --> 01:36:48,787
Speaker 25: our you know, I guess money where our mouth is,

1838
01:36:48,787 --> 01:36:51,107
Speaker 25: I guess a little bit, and you know, try and

1839
01:36:51,187 --> 01:36:53,667
Speaker 25: get some support from the athletics community and the wider

1840
01:36:53,707 --> 01:36:58,067
Speaker 25: community around that. Pinty So's it's it's a little bit

1841
01:36:58,107 --> 01:37:00,707
Speaker 25: of giving back from us and you know, we're doing

1842
01:37:00,747 --> 01:37:03,587
Speaker 25: pretty well so far. We've managed to send you know,

1843
01:37:03,707 --> 01:37:06,827
Speaker 25: four athletes last year overseas and hopefully this year will

1844
01:37:06,867 --> 01:37:10,067
Speaker 25: be able to send probably six. We're looking at sending

1845
01:37:10,147 --> 01:37:13,227
Speaker 25: this year. So we're actually running an online option at

1846
01:37:13,267 --> 01:37:15,347
Speaker 25: the moment to try raise some raise some fund So

1847
01:37:15,387 --> 01:37:17,947
Speaker 25: if you've got any spare cash and like some sporting memorabilia,

1848
01:37:18,627 --> 01:37:22,027
Speaker 25: jump onto our website, a'l trow Athletics Trust and you'll

1849
01:37:22,067 --> 01:37:24,067
Speaker 25: you'll find some pretty cool stuff there.

1850
01:37:24,267 --> 01:37:26,707
Speaker 3: Love that, mate, love there. And just to finish with tonight,

1851
01:37:26,947 --> 01:37:28,827
Speaker 3: and it is tonight, isn't it track Stars? It's something

1852
01:37:28,867 --> 01:37:31,747
Speaker 3: a bit new with all these events, you know, sort

1853
01:37:31,787 --> 01:37:34,787
Speaker 3: of you know, back to back tonight with with some

1854
01:37:35,027 --> 01:37:37,987
Speaker 3: you know obviously field and track events. Does that add

1855
01:37:37,987 --> 01:37:40,427
Speaker 3: a little bit extra to to the Nationals having this

1856
01:37:40,787 --> 01:37:41,827
Speaker 3: new innovation tonight?

1857
01:37:43,267 --> 01:37:43,507
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1858
01:37:43,667 --> 01:37:45,467
Speaker 25: I think I think it does, mate. I actually was

1859
01:37:45,547 --> 01:37:49,067
Speaker 25: pushing for it to be called Field Stars rather than

1860
01:37:49,107 --> 01:37:51,867
Speaker 25: track Stars, but they didn't. They didn't take that, which

1861
01:37:51,907 --> 01:37:57,507
Speaker 25: I don't know why. But no, I think it's good.

1862
01:37:57,547 --> 01:38:00,667
Speaker 25: I think it's great for it's great for athletics to

1863
01:38:00,747 --> 01:38:02,947
Speaker 25: be on live TV, Live three D a TV too

1864
01:38:02,987 --> 01:38:06,027
Speaker 25: on TV and z you know, just after the news,

1865
01:38:06,387 --> 01:38:10,427
Speaker 25: great time, great slot. You know, I think that probably

1866
01:38:10,707 --> 01:38:12,947
Speaker 25: showcases where we are as a sport. You know, we

1867
01:38:13,067 --> 01:38:16,107
Speaker 25: don't just have you know, one marquee athlete, which we

1868
01:38:16,227 --> 01:38:18,867
Speaker 25: have traditionally had over the last twenty or thirty years.

1869
01:38:19,707 --> 01:38:22,147
Speaker 25: We've got five or six, seven, eight, you know now

1870
01:38:22,587 --> 01:38:25,107
Speaker 25: that are realistically medal chances every time we kind of

1871
01:38:25,147 --> 01:38:27,907
Speaker 25: go to major championships. And obviously you've got some pretty

1872
01:38:28,267 --> 01:38:30,867
Speaker 25: exciting races like the two SAMs and so forth.

1873
01:38:30,947 --> 01:38:33,147
Speaker 3: So it is going to be pretty cool.

1874
01:38:33,147 --> 01:38:35,867
Speaker 25: And I think they expect a decent crowd, which is

1875
01:38:35,947 --> 01:38:38,267
Speaker 25: good to have an athletics and it does bring some

1876
01:38:38,387 --> 01:38:41,627
Speaker 25: energy when you get some atmosphere on there.

1877
01:38:41,787 --> 01:38:44,107
Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to tuning in. Always love chatting Tom

1878
01:38:44,107 --> 01:38:46,667
Speaker 3: all the best tonight, mate, Thanks Poni, Thank you Tom,

1879
01:38:46,747 --> 01:38:51,827
Speaker 3: Tom Walsh. They're our standard bearer as far as the

1880
01:38:51,907 --> 01:38:55,747
Speaker 3: men's shot put is concerned, looking for a fifteenth national title.

1881
01:38:55,947 --> 01:38:58,387
Speaker 3: Track Stars. As part of all of this, the National

1882
01:38:58,507 --> 01:39:01,467
Speaker 3: Champs have been on since Thursday. They continue tomorrow but

1883
01:39:01,627 --> 01:39:06,627
Speaker 3: tonight between I think from about seven o'clock tonight, it's

1884
01:39:07,107 --> 01:39:10,387
Speaker 3: it's almost like a just a tweentty twitty version if

1885
01:39:10,387 --> 01:39:15,267
Speaker 3: you like, it's great track and field action, but it's

1886
01:39:15,427 --> 01:39:17,587
Speaker 3: it's all of these events sort of crammed together, so

1887
01:39:17,667 --> 01:39:21,267
Speaker 3: there's always something happening. It's on freeware television and the

1888
01:39:21,347 --> 01:39:23,347
Speaker 3: big you know, the big I guess what you'd call

1889
01:39:23,427 --> 01:39:26,187
Speaker 3: the glamour events are all there, including the Men's Shop

1890
01:39:26,227 --> 01:39:30,347
Speaker 3: put the one hundred meters with Zoey Hobbs. Unfortunately Sam

1891
01:39:30,467 --> 01:39:33,187
Speaker 3: Tanner not running the fifteen hundred tonight. Sam Ruth though,

1892
01:39:33,587 --> 01:39:35,667
Speaker 3: will be there. I believe that's the last event on

1893
01:39:35,787 --> 01:39:39,547
Speaker 3: the on the agenda tonight, So yeah, track stars, looking

1894
01:39:39,587 --> 01:39:41,987
Speaker 3: forward to seeing that. It's a it's a really good

1895
01:39:42,027 --> 01:39:44,827
Speaker 3: time for athletics and New Zealand at the moment, and

1896
01:39:45,107 --> 01:39:48,787
Speaker 3: good to see athletics New Zealand capitalizing on that popularity

1897
01:39:48,987 --> 01:39:52,427
Speaker 3: and making it accessible to everybody. So looking forward to

1898
01:39:52,427 --> 01:39:55,947
Speaker 3: seeing how that plays out tonight. Any any big, big

1899
01:39:56,067 --> 01:39:57,667
Speaker 3: results and I'm sure there'll be a few, we'll cover

1900
01:39:57,747 --> 01:40:00,787
Speaker 3: them off on Weekend Sport Tomorrow two twenty three. Let's

1901
01:40:00,787 --> 01:40:03,587
Speaker 3: take a break then get you across to Melbourne Formula

1902
01:40:03,667 --> 01:40:08,587
Speaker 3: one Grand Prix this weekend. Albert Park Free Practice three

1903
01:40:08,827 --> 01:40:10,827
Speaker 3: is either just about to get under way or is

1904
01:40:10,907 --> 01:40:15,387
Speaker 3: already under way qualifying tonight, the race itself tomorrow. Alex

1905
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Speaker 3: Paler going to join us from the New Zealand Herald

1906
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Speaker 3: with his assessment of Day one and in particular Liam

1907
01:40:20,787 --> 01:40:22,707
Speaker 3: Lawson's Day one when we come back.

1908
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Speaker 1: From Grassroots to the grand Stand Weekend Sport with Jason

1909
01:40:27,107 --> 01:40:31,347
Speaker 1: Pinin and GJ. Gudnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder

1910
01:40:31,507 --> 01:40:32,387
Speaker 1: news talks that'd be.

1911
01:40:32,707 --> 01:40:35,747
Speaker 3: There coming up to twenty seven the Australian Formula One

1912
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Speaker 3: Grand Prix. The season opening event on the Grand Prix

1913
01:40:38,867 --> 01:40:43,507
Speaker 3: calendar is tomorrow from five o'clock New Zealand time or thereabouts.

1914
01:40:43,587 --> 01:40:47,107
Speaker 3: We had two practice sessions yesterday. The third practice session

1915
01:40:47,507 --> 01:40:51,147
Speaker 3: is all but under way, qualifying tonight from around six

1916
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Speaker 3: o'clock New Zealand time, and we'll have grid positions for

1917
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Speaker 3: the race tomorrow, as I say, from around five o'clock

1918
01:40:57,267 --> 01:41:00,467
Speaker 3: New Zealand time. Alex Powell from the New Zealand Herald

1919
01:41:00,587 --> 01:41:03,387
Speaker 3: has been at the Albert Park circuit these last few

1920
01:41:03,467 --> 01:41:06,187
Speaker 3: days and joins us. Now, what were your big takeaways

1921
01:41:06,227 --> 01:41:08,507
Speaker 3: for from practice day one yesterday?

1922
01:41:08,627 --> 01:41:12,907
Speaker 26: Alix final Hope, Well, yeah, it's kind of a tricky

1923
01:41:12,947 --> 01:41:15,907
Speaker 26: one because we still really don't have any idea how

1924
01:41:16,107 --> 01:41:19,307
Speaker 26: quick these new cars actually are. We were expecting Mercedes

1925
01:41:19,347 --> 01:41:22,147
Speaker 26: to be the front runners across yesterday and yet it

1926
01:41:22,267 --> 01:41:24,347
Speaker 26: was a Ferrari the top the Times and FT one

1927
01:41:24,387 --> 01:41:26,667
Speaker 26: and a McLaren's the top FB two. So I've got

1928
01:41:26,707 --> 01:41:29,107
Speaker 26: one more prectosition coming up and the qualifying la tonight,

1929
01:41:29,147 --> 01:41:32,427
Speaker 26: as you said, but it really is sort of anyone's game.

1930
01:41:32,307 --> 01:41:32,747
Speaker 4: At the moment.

1931
01:41:33,627 --> 01:41:35,587
Speaker 3: The new era of power units has been a big

1932
01:41:35,667 --> 01:41:37,787
Speaker 3: talking point, as you say, did we see any early

1933
01:41:37,947 --> 01:41:41,787
Speaker 3: signs of who has nailed the new regulations and who

1934
01:41:41,867 --> 01:41:43,587
Speaker 3: conversely might be struggling a little bit?

1935
01:41:45,067 --> 01:41:47,147
Speaker 26: Well, and I can tell you who's last. That Aston Martin,

1936
01:41:47,227 --> 01:41:50,907
Speaker 26: who we've just learned yesterday. There's been a real i

1937
01:41:50,987 --> 01:41:54,267
Speaker 26: mean almost schizophrenic type car design from them. Today there's

1938
01:41:54,347 --> 01:41:56,267
Speaker 26: real doubts that they will be able to make it

1939
01:41:56,387 --> 01:41:59,867
Speaker 26: onto the track on time to start the race. Who's

1940
01:41:59,867 --> 01:42:02,467
Speaker 26: in front? I would still say Mercedes. I think if

1941
01:42:02,467 --> 01:42:04,067
Speaker 26: you look at the Times yesterday, they might not have

1942
01:42:04,107 --> 01:42:07,027
Speaker 26: been the top consistency wise. They did have a very

1943
01:42:07,107 --> 01:42:09,307
Speaker 26: high number of laps up towards the front of the grid.

1944
01:42:09,347 --> 01:42:11,787
Speaker 26: Where's Ferrari, Redball, McLaren all sort of wear of it

1945
01:42:11,907 --> 01:42:12,347
Speaker 26: up and down.

1946
01:42:13,827 --> 01:42:17,547
Speaker 3: Now, the FIA have decided to remove straight mode from

1947
01:42:17,587 --> 01:42:20,987
Speaker 3: the drag reduction system active ero on part of the

1948
01:42:21,067 --> 01:42:23,427
Speaker 3: circuit due to safety reasons. You're going to have to

1949
01:42:23,507 --> 01:42:27,347
Speaker 3: explain every part of that sentence to me, I mean.

1950
01:42:27,267 --> 01:42:29,667
Speaker 26: Sit down, because it's my fake a well. But basically

1951
01:42:29,747 --> 01:42:32,627
Speaker 26: with the new car designs where the electrical side of

1952
01:42:32,627 --> 01:42:34,467
Speaker 26: the engine as most of the combustion side of the

1953
01:42:34,507 --> 01:42:37,187
Speaker 26: engine is going to be at the forefront. As we

1954
01:42:37,267 --> 01:42:39,627
Speaker 26: go into this new era, we've seen the removal of

1955
01:42:39,747 --> 01:42:42,467
Speaker 26: what we knew as drag reduction system interactive aero, so

1956
01:42:42,667 --> 01:42:45,947
Speaker 26: basically not straight motors. There's straight mode and then this

1957
01:42:46,107 --> 01:42:48,867
Speaker 26: quartering mode when the front and rear wings will basically

1958
01:42:49,027 --> 01:42:51,227
Speaker 26: change depending on what circuit, for what part of the

1959
01:42:51,267 --> 01:42:55,547
Speaker 26: circuit you're on. So we had that yesterday, but four,

1960
01:42:56,347 --> 01:42:58,747
Speaker 26: only four of the eleven teams have been able to

1961
01:42:58,947 --> 01:43:01,947
Speaker 26: go through this certain section of the Melbourne circuit, which

1962
01:43:02,027 --> 01:43:10,467
Speaker 26: is leads the cart stick to the road. The downfource

1963
01:43:10,507 --> 01:43:13,387
Speaker 26: that was are not safe enough for all teams to

1964
01:43:13,427 --> 01:43:15,107
Speaker 26: go through it quickly, so they've just removed it for

1965
01:43:15,227 --> 01:43:15,627
Speaker 26: this race.

1966
01:43:17,467 --> 01:43:21,387
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson thirteenth in both practice sessions yesterday how will

1967
01:43:21,427 --> 01:43:22,627
Speaker 3: he feel about his day?

1968
01:43:23,787 --> 01:43:25,627
Speaker 26: He was actually really positive, so I don't know if

1969
01:43:25,667 --> 01:43:27,947
Speaker 26: he saw about his teammate Iarvidland Blad did very well.

1970
01:43:27,987 --> 01:43:30,667
Speaker 26: He was fascinated, So there's there's clearly something in that

1971
01:43:30,907 --> 01:43:35,187
Speaker 26: carpet should be competitive as a midfield front runner. Like

1972
01:43:35,187 --> 01:43:37,787
Speaker 26: I said, Liam's thirteenth or twice. But he did do

1973
01:43:37,867 --> 01:43:39,707
Speaker 26: his beaty around last night and said everything that they

1974
01:43:39,787 --> 01:43:41,707
Speaker 26: wanted to get out of Yester they did. So whether

1975
01:43:41,787 --> 01:43:44,307
Speaker 26: or not they're just holding back or they're using their

1976
01:43:44,387 --> 01:43:46,107
Speaker 26: laws to try and get as much data as they

1977
01:43:46,147 --> 01:43:48,347
Speaker 26: can to put it intoday, I guess we'll have to

1978
01:43:48,427 --> 01:43:50,747
Speaker 26: wait and see. But I think he is confident in

1979
01:43:50,827 --> 01:43:51,427
Speaker 26: what they've got.

1980
01:43:52,547 --> 01:43:55,387
Speaker 3: They've got, as you say, a new a new team,

1981
01:43:55,787 --> 01:43:58,947
Speaker 3: his teammate, the only rookie on the on the grit

1982
01:43:58,987 --> 01:44:01,067
Speaker 3: as far as I can see, Arvidland Bud. He was

1983
01:44:01,187 --> 01:44:04,747
Speaker 3: faster in both practices yesterday. Is that a concern as

1984
01:44:04,827 --> 01:44:08,827
Speaker 3: far as pecking order is concerned and practice?

1985
01:44:08,907 --> 01:44:11,307
Speaker 26: No, if is faster and qualifying glad to say, I

1986
01:44:11,387 --> 01:44:13,987
Speaker 26: guess we'll have a bit of a chat then, But

1987
01:44:14,187 --> 01:44:16,587
Speaker 26: like practice is very hard to take away anything from

1988
01:44:16,707 --> 01:44:18,627
Speaker 26: FP two, as we've spoken about in the past is

1989
01:44:18,787 --> 01:44:20,747
Speaker 26: generally a pretty good sign of where you might be

1990
01:44:20,907 --> 01:44:23,987
Speaker 26: for qualifying, but with these new engines and new cars,

1991
01:44:24,067 --> 01:44:26,347
Speaker 26: we really just don't know. Like it could be we

1992
01:44:26,427 --> 01:44:29,387
Speaker 26: could see some really crazy things this weekend starting in

1993
01:44:29,427 --> 01:44:30,147
Speaker 26: a couple of hours.

1994
01:44:31,587 --> 01:44:34,267
Speaker 3: And even given that, though from what you've seen, when

1995
01:44:34,747 --> 01:44:36,507
Speaker 3: or when will you be able to make an assessment

1996
01:44:36,627 --> 01:44:42,707
Speaker 3: on whether Liam and the Racing Balls team could consistently

1997
01:44:42,787 --> 01:44:45,627
Speaker 3: fight for points if things go well. When will we

1998
01:44:45,707 --> 01:44:48,187
Speaker 3: be able to make that assessment? Will this weekend be

1999
01:44:48,347 --> 01:44:49,747
Speaker 3: too early to make that assessment?

2000
01:44:50,947 --> 01:44:53,587
Speaker 26: Definitely? So we had actually a media breakfast out at

2001
01:44:53,587 --> 01:44:57,027
Speaker 26: Mercedes the other morning and Kimmy Antonelli more or less

2002
01:44:57,067 --> 01:45:00,107
Speaker 26: outlined that the way these new cars are, it's not

2003
01:45:00,387 --> 01:45:03,547
Speaker 26: really fair to say we can He's going to be

2004
01:45:03,547 --> 01:45:06,307
Speaker 26: out right, it will actually change track to track because

2005
01:45:06,387 --> 01:45:07,707
Speaker 26: of the way to circuit to set up on the

2006
01:45:07,747 --> 01:45:10,267
Speaker 26: way batteries and now deployed. So I mean it could

2007
01:45:10,347 --> 01:45:12,267
Speaker 26: be you know, you get like a red Buller Ferrari

2008
01:45:12,387 --> 01:45:14,147
Speaker 26: or quick Care, but then they're slow in China and

2009
01:45:14,187 --> 01:45:16,267
Speaker 26: the Mercedes or a McLaren takes over, which I think

2010
01:45:16,387 --> 01:45:18,747
Speaker 26: is what we've all want to see. If one over

2011
01:45:18,747 --> 01:45:20,987
Speaker 26: the last few years, with the exception of the three

2012
01:45:20,987 --> 01:45:22,787
Speaker 26: way title flo last season, it has tended to be

2013
01:45:22,867 --> 01:45:25,307
Speaker 26: one way traffic with Max has happened. So with the

2014
01:45:25,387 --> 01:45:28,907
Speaker 26: move for these irregulations, hopefully seeing more competitive racing, I

2015
01:45:28,947 --> 01:45:31,427
Speaker 26: mean I think that everything's fans warmed.

2016
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Speaker 11: At the moment.

2017
01:45:32,747 --> 01:45:34,587
Speaker 3: How did Max for Stappan look yesterday?

2018
01:45:36,587 --> 01:45:39,427
Speaker 26: He looked good in NFB one, so there was to

2019
01:45:39,587 --> 01:45:41,107
Speaker 26: just so where I again go back to the Mercedes

2020
01:45:41,187 --> 01:45:43,787
Speaker 26: Breakfast George russ Will put in an exoluent master class

2021
01:45:43,827 --> 01:45:46,227
Speaker 26: of slacking off Max to Stappens the whole morning without

2022
01:45:46,307 --> 01:45:49,307
Speaker 26: mentioning his name once, just in regards to how he's

2023
01:45:49,347 --> 01:45:51,787
Speaker 26: complained about the new cars. But also they feel as

2024
01:45:51,827 --> 01:45:54,147
Speaker 26: though Red Bull held back in the second test and

2025
01:45:54,187 --> 01:45:56,307
Speaker 26: bar own and that they've not actually been truthful about

2026
01:45:56,307 --> 01:45:58,547
Speaker 26: how quick their car might be. So I think you

2027
01:45:58,667 --> 01:46:00,227
Speaker 26: put maxis step in on anything and he shall be

2028
01:46:00,267 --> 01:46:02,107
Speaker 26: able to drive it. So we'll see that stuff doing

2029
01:46:02,267 --> 01:46:03,347
Speaker 26: just exactly where he is.

2030
01:46:04,427 --> 01:46:06,507
Speaker 3: Why did they make the changes at all all?

2031
01:46:08,267 --> 01:46:10,587
Speaker 26: Well, I mean there's so many reasons. One, I think

2032
01:46:10,667 --> 01:46:12,947
Speaker 26: they are more conscious of the environmental side of it now,

2033
01:46:12,987 --> 01:46:15,787
Speaker 26: which is why we're seeing them work towards electric you

2034
01:46:15,907 --> 01:46:18,507
Speaker 26: look at the need to sort of mix up racing

2035
01:46:18,547 --> 01:46:20,067
Speaker 26: them and then so you don't just get one team

2036
01:46:20,187 --> 01:46:23,547
Speaker 26: dominating for years at a time. And I think ultimately

2037
01:46:24,067 --> 01:46:26,067
Speaker 26: we're here super we took about putting the fans first.

2038
01:46:26,227 --> 01:46:29,707
Speaker 26: The need for closer racing really is doing that with

2039
01:46:29,867 --> 01:46:30,347
Speaker 26: Formula one.

2040
01:46:30,427 --> 01:46:34,627
Speaker 3: Now, tell us about the circuit at Albert Parker. How

2041
01:46:34,707 --> 01:46:38,987
Speaker 3: important is grid position and how easy or not is

2042
01:46:39,067 --> 01:46:40,747
Speaker 3: it to pass on the circuit.

2043
01:46:41,907 --> 01:46:43,867
Speaker 26: I mean, good position is always important, doesn't matter what

2044
01:46:43,987 --> 01:46:45,507
Speaker 26: their get you're at. I mean the hope with these

2045
01:46:45,587 --> 01:46:49,947
Speaker 26: new cars that overtaking will be easier. What's hopeful with

2046
01:46:50,067 --> 01:46:52,227
Speaker 26: these new cars and new batteries is that you will

2047
01:46:52,267 --> 01:46:54,907
Speaker 26: see overtaking an areas that you just didn't in the past.

2048
01:46:54,947 --> 01:46:58,067
Speaker 26: Normally you'd see overtaking restricted to the CRS zone. They're

2049
01:46:58,147 --> 01:47:00,867
Speaker 26: gone now with what I've explained to the actor Arrow.

2050
01:47:01,347 --> 01:47:04,067
Speaker 26: But now with drivers managing their batteries, you will see

2051
01:47:04,107 --> 01:47:06,227
Speaker 26: them have to be really smart about when they attack,

2052
01:47:06,427 --> 01:47:07,067
Speaker 26: when they defend.

2053
01:47:08,427 --> 01:47:10,667
Speaker 3: What would represent a good result for Liam Laws on

2054
01:47:10,707 --> 01:47:13,147
Speaker 3: this weekend, I think.

2055
01:47:13,067 --> 01:47:16,107
Speaker 26: Points would be everything he'd wants. I mean, that's gen

2056
01:47:16,227 --> 01:47:18,627
Speaker 26: me how you go anyway. But I think just getting

2057
01:47:18,707 --> 01:47:21,387
Speaker 26: through as many. I was sorry getting through the race

2058
01:47:21,467 --> 01:47:24,467
Speaker 26: without any major issue given the new cars and we're

2059
01:47:24,467 --> 01:47:26,747
Speaker 26: still learning about who's got what. I think that would

2060
01:47:26,747 --> 01:47:28,187
Speaker 26: be a bit of a win as well. Even if

2061
01:47:28,187 --> 01:47:31,827
Speaker 26: he does finish, say you know, eleventh, fifteenth, and what.

2062
01:47:31,947 --> 01:47:35,387
Speaker 3: About twenty twenty six on the whole, how do you

2063
01:47:35,787 --> 01:47:40,227
Speaker 3: assess you know his mindset going into the entire Formula

2064
01:47:40,307 --> 01:47:40,867
Speaker 3: one season.

2065
01:47:42,867 --> 01:47:44,867
Speaker 26: I think he has had a very disrupted career. Let's

2066
01:47:44,907 --> 01:47:47,387
Speaker 26: not forget this is now his fourth season as an

2067
01:47:47,507 --> 01:47:49,227
Speaker 26: F one driver, and I know he's only done thirty

2068
01:47:49,227 --> 01:47:51,907
Speaker 26: five races because of being in an OUTSI injury replacement

2069
01:47:51,947 --> 01:47:55,067
Speaker 26: and waiting people to make way for him. But I

2070
01:47:55,187 --> 01:47:57,667
Speaker 26: think he now knows that this is his chance. He's

2071
01:47:57,667 --> 01:47:59,387
Speaker 26: always said he wanted to see an F one driver,

2072
01:47:59,467 --> 01:48:02,387
Speaker 26: didn't matter what seem was with, and so he took

2073
01:48:02,427 --> 01:48:04,787
Speaker 26: back to racing balls ups getting one off by wrestled

2074
01:48:04,867 --> 01:48:07,227
Speaker 26: last year that he has the chance to be the

2075
01:48:07,227 --> 01:48:09,667
Speaker 26: team leader for racing Balls. He's mentoring other than lathy

2076
01:48:09,827 --> 01:48:12,387
Speaker 26: Riches have a lot of faith and they have sort

2077
01:48:12,427 --> 01:48:14,227
Speaker 26: of put him in there as the team leader, and

2078
01:48:14,427 --> 01:48:17,347
Speaker 26: I think we will actually hopefully see the best of

2079
01:48:17,387 --> 01:48:18,307
Speaker 26: Womwson this year.

2080
01:48:18,747 --> 01:48:20,667
Speaker 3: All right, just to finish. I know a lot of

2081
01:48:20,707 --> 01:48:23,907
Speaker 3: our listeners have been to the Formula one Grand Prix

2082
01:48:24,027 --> 01:48:24,627
Speaker 3: in Australia.

2083
01:48:24,707 --> 01:48:25,147
Speaker 4: I never have.

2084
01:48:25,267 --> 01:48:27,787
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how many times you've been. What's it like?

2085
01:48:29,267 --> 01:48:31,067
Speaker 26: It's kind of like a big day out for Petro.

2086
01:48:31,427 --> 01:48:34,387
Speaker 26: It's actually I'm standing outside the pat lane at the moment,

2087
01:48:34,867 --> 01:48:36,547
Speaker 26: just because you know, to get away from the sound

2088
01:48:36,587 --> 01:48:39,587
Speaker 26: as west start FP three. But that's great. You know,

2089
01:48:39,987 --> 01:48:41,707
Speaker 26: there's a lot of orange, a lot of McLaren fans,

2090
01:48:41,707 --> 01:48:43,387
Speaker 26: Frost Cafestro in his home rais. But there's a lot

2091
01:48:43,387 --> 01:48:46,107
Speaker 26: of keys about your seeing the occasional racing balls. Kit

2092
01:48:46,907 --> 01:48:50,267
Speaker 26: a few influences here who've got Terry Crews is here.

2093
01:48:50,307 --> 01:48:52,467
Speaker 26: I mean he put all the Australian journals out a

2094
01:48:52,507 --> 01:48:54,267
Speaker 26: joint because they asked for Inspertay said he was working

2095
01:48:54,307 --> 01:48:56,587
Speaker 26: when he was just walking around. So it's actually a

2096
01:48:56,627 --> 01:48:57,227
Speaker 26: really good feeling.

2097
01:48:58,467 --> 01:49:00,707
Speaker 3: Well, it's great to read the pulse of it. So

2098
01:49:00,827 --> 01:49:03,267
Speaker 3: what Free Practice three is about to get underway or

2099
01:49:03,347 --> 01:49:04,747
Speaker 3: has got an underweight.

2100
01:49:06,547 --> 01:49:08,587
Speaker 26: Fin de lay slided because the end of the Formula

2101
01:49:08,667 --> 01:49:10,987
Speaker 26: three spring races for end with red flags player actually

2102
01:49:11,107 --> 01:49:13,707
Speaker 26: TV driver Louis Sharp crashing into his teammatee and sort

2103
01:49:13,707 --> 01:49:14,827
Speaker 26: of ending that race for everyone.

2104
01:49:15,787 --> 01:49:18,107
Speaker 3: All right, we'll look forward to seeing how practice three

2105
01:49:18,227 --> 01:49:21,387
Speaker 3: goes and how qualifying goes. Thanks for joining us on

2106
01:49:21,467 --> 01:49:25,827
Speaker 3: weekends sport Alex as always good on your Alex Powell.

2107
01:49:25,827 --> 01:49:27,747
Speaker 3: Read him at insid here all dot co, dot in

2108
01:49:27,907 --> 01:49:30,187
Speaker 3: zed and keep up to date with a Formula one

2109
01:49:30,227 --> 01:49:33,387
Speaker 3: Grand Prix in Australia. Here are some slightly more extensive

2110
01:49:33,427 --> 01:49:38,307
Speaker 3: comments from Liam Lawson after practice too yesterday in.

2111
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Speaker 9: Twenty twenty six. How is it all on your side?

2112
01:49:40,947 --> 01:49:42,907
Speaker 9: Did you get through everything you wanted to you today?

2113
01:49:44,227 --> 01:49:46,947
Speaker 23: To be honest, yeah, we actually had quite a decent

2114
01:49:47,027 --> 01:49:50,947
Speaker 23: day in terms of labs completed. We pretty much completed

2115
01:49:50,987 --> 01:49:55,307
Speaker 23: our run plan which was good. So overall pretty happy.

2116
01:49:55,387 --> 01:49:58,147
Speaker 23: I think the speed is it's not too bad as well,

2117
01:49:59,387 --> 01:50:01,387
Speaker 23: especially for day one. You know, obviously we're trying to

2118
01:50:01,987 --> 01:50:03,907
Speaker 23: improve as much as we can, but to roll out

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Speaker 23: here with a decent car all from online simulations and

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Speaker 23: the limited running we've done is pretty It's pretty good.

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Speaker 23: So yeah, pretty happy. I think still a lot to

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Speaker 23: work on for tomorrow for the rest of the weekend,

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Speaker 23: but a good start.

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Speaker 3: Touched on it there.

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Speaker 9: What does tonight look like for yourself and the team

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01:50:21,307 --> 01:50:23,307
Speaker 9: a little bit busier than last season.

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Speaker 23: Perhaps, definitely, it's just the analyzing is just a lot deeper,

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01:50:26,827 --> 01:50:29,587
Speaker 23: making sure we're crossing all out, yeah, all the bases,

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01:50:29,587 --> 01:50:32,627
Speaker 23: and making sure we do everything that we need to.

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01:50:32,867 --> 01:50:34,707
Speaker 23: On my side, obviously making sure because there's a lot

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01:50:34,747 --> 01:50:36,227
Speaker 23: we have to do behind the wheel this year that's

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Speaker 23: probably quite different to the previous years. So making sure

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Speaker 23: that what I've done today is mostly correct and if

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Speaker 23: there's anything else I.

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Speaker 9: Can do tomorrow to try and work on that, we

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Speaker 9: spoke about it. Yesterday's a big day for your new teammate.

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01:50:50,547 --> 01:50:52,947
Speaker 9: What did you make of Arvid today and feel like

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Speaker 9: you've got good data across podcasts?

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Speaker 23: Yes, I think it's been a I think a good

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Speaker 23: day for the team for Arby's looks, like I said,

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Speaker 23: a pretty strong day as well. So it's honestly great

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Speaker 23: for us going into tomorrow to have, yeah, what looks

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01:51:06,507 --> 01:51:09,067
Speaker 23: like a pretty strong package, and so obviously both of

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Speaker 23: us working on it together is good.

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01:51:12,027 --> 01:51:13,947
Speaker 24: So it's promising so far.

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01:51:14,507 --> 01:51:17,267
Speaker 3: That is Liam Lawson after practice two yesterday. As she

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01:51:17,307 --> 01:51:20,547
Speaker 3: heard from Alex Powell, practice three has been delayed due

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Speaker 3: to an accident an earlier race on the circuit. They

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Speaker 3: will get underway as soon as they possibly can, and

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Speaker 3: then qualifying tonight all important. Qualifying tonight at around about

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Speaker 3: six o'clock and then tomorrow from five is when the

2152
01:51:35,547 --> 01:51:40,347
Speaker 3: race itself will go. Grid position obviously important, and qualifying

2153
01:51:40,387 --> 01:51:44,507
Speaker 3: will determine that between six and seven tonight, so sort

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Speaker 3: of around seven just after we should have the grid

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Speaker 3: positions for the first Formula One race of twenty twenty six,

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01:51:51,747 --> 01:51:54,067
Speaker 3: twenty two away from three. Just updating you on plunket

2157
01:51:54,147 --> 01:51:57,107
Speaker 3: shield cricket as well. Just the one game going on

2158
01:51:57,627 --> 01:52:01,507
Speaker 3: right now in round six of eight. It's in Napier

2159
01:52:01,547 --> 01:52:04,507
Speaker 3: where Northern won the toss and sent Central into bat

2160
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Speaker 3: They're one fifty three for three, Brad Schmullien sixty one

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Speaker 3: and Curtis Heafee forty four. In fact, he Fee's still

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01:52:12,907 --> 01:52:15,667
Speaker 3: there open the batting, he's forty four, not out, he's

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01:52:15,867 --> 01:52:18,587
Speaker 3: still out there, will young out for a dark which

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01:52:18,667 --> 01:52:21,187
Speaker 3: is a bit of a boost for Northern Dean Foxcroft

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Speaker 3: for sixteen. Tom Bruce is out there with Curtis he

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01:52:23,707 --> 01:52:25,787
Speaker 3: Fe and on the first day of this of this

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01:52:25,867 --> 01:52:29,027
Speaker 3: plunket shell match in Napier, the Central stags one fifty

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Speaker 3: three four four. In fact, as I say it is

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01:52:33,627 --> 01:52:36,027
Speaker 3: four now because Curtis hefe I've put the mockers on him.

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Speaker 3: He's just got out for forty four, one fifty three

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01:52:38,867 --> 01:52:42,307
Speaker 3: for four the central stags twenty one to three. Massive

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01:52:42,427 --> 01:52:46,507
Speaker 3: day at Alliesley, The nz B Kiwi set to go

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01:52:46,707 --> 01:52:49,627
Speaker 3: at around ten to six this evening with an almost

2174
01:52:49,827 --> 01:52:53,827
Speaker 3: unbackable favorite in the field and well written. What is

2175
01:52:53,907 --> 01:52:56,947
Speaker 3: this all about? What is the NZB Kiwi and why

2176
01:52:57,107 --> 01:53:00,147
Speaker 3: has it created such a buzz so quickly? We'll get

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Speaker 3: you to allis Lee to find out more when we

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Speaker 3: come back on Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: The biggest names and fours We talked fine Weekend Sport

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01:53:08,227 --> 01:53:12,067
Speaker 1: with Jason Pine and GJ. Gardner Homes New Zealand's most

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01:53:12,107 --> 01:53:14,147
Speaker 1: trusted home builder News Talks that'd be.

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Speaker 3: Two forty two on Weekend Sport. New Zealand Racing's newest

2183
01:53:17,467 --> 01:53:20,947
Speaker 3: show piece takes center stage today the four million dollar

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01:53:21,467 --> 01:53:24,787
Speaker 3: n z B Kiwi at Allesleie Race Course. It is

2185
01:53:24,867 --> 01:53:27,747
Speaker 3: the richest three year old race in the Southern Hemisphere

2186
01:53:28,147 --> 01:53:31,947
Speaker 3: and a centerpiece of Champions Day, bringing together sloth holders,

2187
01:53:32,027 --> 01:53:36,307
Speaker 3: top young horses and huge prize money with the unbeaten favorite,

2188
01:53:36,747 --> 01:53:40,467
Speaker 3: well written, dominating the pre race conversation with.

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Speaker 11: Down three hundred ago.

2190
01:53:41,827 --> 01:53:45,187
Speaker 12: He who Dies here comes well written out after and

2191
01:53:45,307 --> 01:53:47,627
Speaker 12: now two weeks away War Princess.

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01:53:47,667 --> 01:53:49,427
Speaker 6: Further back then with good Laderada.

2193
01:53:49,707 --> 01:53:52,547
Speaker 4: It's well written in He Who Dares be well written

2194
01:53:52,867 --> 01:53:53,987
Speaker 4: two passed away.

2195
01:53:54,387 --> 01:53:57,027
Speaker 12: Oh, have a look at New Jella's next rating, Sleeper

2196
01:53:57,067 --> 01:53:59,667
Speaker 12: snow well written. She is our best seller.

2197
01:53:59,947 --> 01:54:03,547
Speaker 3: She has absolutely bulked in. Yeah, well written now that

2198
01:54:03,667 --> 01:54:05,347
Speaker 3: was the karl Ofka millions. Of course she's in the

2199
01:54:05,387 --> 01:54:08,227
Speaker 3: field this afternoon, as I say, an almost unbeckable favorite.

2200
01:54:08,267 --> 01:54:11,107
Speaker 3: Andrew Gordy is part of the team bringing the n

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Speaker 3: ZB key We together. He's with us now from Ellesley Andrew.

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Speaker 3: For the listeners who might be new to this, just

2203
01:54:16,867 --> 01:54:19,747
Speaker 3: how big a race has the NZB key we become

2204
01:54:20,427 --> 01:54:22,347
Speaker 3: in a pretty short space of time.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, afternoon, pining afternoons, all the listeners mate, It's just

2206
01:54:26,107 --> 01:54:30,027
Speaker 19: become a behemoth. Frankly. It is the biggest race on

2207
01:54:30,187 --> 01:54:33,187
Speaker 19: the New Zealand Racing calendar, on the biggest race day

2208
01:54:33,627 --> 01:54:36,427
Speaker 19: for New Zealand racing, I mean Champions Day in itself

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Speaker 19: with three other Group one races, You've got the Auckland

2210
01:54:39,147 --> 01:54:42,347
Speaker 19: Cup as well, that's big enough, but to have this big,

2211
01:54:42,507 --> 01:54:46,427
Speaker 19: shiny new race on top is just a game changer

2212
01:54:46,507 --> 01:54:49,107
Speaker 19: for the industry. I mean, it's it's really doing for

2213
01:54:49,267 --> 01:54:51,707
Speaker 19: our industry what the likes of the Everest has done

2214
01:54:51,907 --> 01:54:54,587
Speaker 19: over in Australia. And I suppose, you know, in a

2215
01:54:54,587 --> 01:54:56,307
Speaker 19: different sort of way, it's like the Melbourne Cup. This

2216
01:54:56,427 --> 01:54:58,227
Speaker 19: is this is we want this race to be the

2217
01:54:58,307 --> 01:55:00,107
Speaker 19: race that stops our nation, you know what I mean.

2218
01:55:00,467 --> 01:55:02,747
Speaker 19: And yeah, we've got another cracking edition of the race

2219
01:55:02,787 --> 01:55:07,147
Speaker 19: this year, and as you say, headlined by this extremely

2220
01:55:07,267 --> 01:55:09,707
Speaker 19: talented young fellow who's five from five. She's the pin

2221
01:55:09,787 --> 01:55:11,947
Speaker 19: up girl of New Zealand racing. She's got everyone in

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01:55:12,027 --> 01:55:14,827
Speaker 19: the industry talking about her. And yeah, we're certainly looking

2223
01:55:14,867 --> 01:55:16,707
Speaker 19: forward to seeing what she can do later this afternoon.

2224
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Speaker 3: All right, just before we get to well written, what

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01:55:18,947 --> 01:55:22,787
Speaker 3: makes the nzbeke We such a unique concept here compared

2226
01:55:22,827 --> 01:55:24,267
Speaker 3: with traditional races.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, so the big difference, Pinty, between the nzbke We

2228
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Speaker 19: and any other race on the racing calendar is this

2229
01:55:30,747 --> 01:55:33,507
Speaker 19: is a slot race. So think about any other races

2230
01:55:33,667 --> 01:55:36,427
Speaker 19: through performance that you qualify for the race. This one

2231
01:55:36,547 --> 01:55:38,987
Speaker 19: is different. You know, you have fourteen sloth holders who

2232
01:55:39,667 --> 01:55:42,267
Speaker 19: essentially buy a slot in the race, so and then

2233
01:55:42,347 --> 01:55:46,027
Speaker 19: they decide they negotiate with owners to get you know,

2234
01:55:46,147 --> 01:55:47,827
Speaker 19: to pick their best or the best horse that they

2235
01:55:47,827 --> 01:55:49,987
Speaker 19: can get their hands on into the slot. So it's

2236
01:55:50,027 --> 01:55:52,067
Speaker 19: got a whole nother layer to us. And you've got

2237
01:55:52,107 --> 01:55:55,387
Speaker 19: these sort of consistent characters in the race who are

2238
01:55:55,387 --> 01:55:58,307
Speaker 19: all brilliant people, and yeah, they sort of negotiate with

2239
01:55:58,387 --> 01:56:00,147
Speaker 19: their owners to get the very best horse that they

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Speaker 19: can into their slot. So there's a sort of there's

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Speaker 19: a whole build up narrative to the race that you

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01:56:05,387 --> 01:56:08,067
Speaker 19: don't get with any other race on the calendar, which

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01:56:08,147 --> 01:56:09,827
Speaker 19: is what makes it a whole lot of fun. And

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01:56:09,947 --> 01:56:13,667
Speaker 19: that's what really enables you and NZTR to have this

2245
01:56:13,947 --> 01:56:16,227
Speaker 19: huge prize money attached to it. You know, it's the

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01:56:16,347 --> 01:56:19,147
Speaker 19: richest sporting event in New Zealand pinety four million dollars

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01:56:19,187 --> 01:56:21,867
Speaker 19: and there's another one million dollar bonus Paul attached to

2248
01:56:21,947 --> 01:56:24,787
Speaker 19: that as well, So there's actually five million dollars up

2249
01:56:24,827 --> 01:56:27,347
Speaker 19: for grabs with this race this afternoon. So it's a

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Speaker 19: game changer and it's.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant all right. All the talk leading into the Kei

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Speaker 3: We has been about well written. Is she really that

2253
01:56:35,267 --> 01:56:37,667
Speaker 3: far ahead of the rest of the field on form?

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01:56:38,587 --> 01:56:42,387
Speaker 19: Put simply yes, her last start in the Kadaka Million

2255
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Speaker 19: three year old race. Just to put this into some context,

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Speaker 19: like anyone who's seen that race, I mean, she was explosive.

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Speaker 19: But then to provide some context to that, immediately after

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Speaker 19: that race, she was given an international rating of one

2259
01:56:56,307 --> 01:56:59,227
Speaker 19: hundred and fifteen and at the time that made her

2260
01:56:59,507 --> 01:57:02,947
Speaker 19: the highest ranked three year old horse in Australasia. So

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Speaker 19: that puts it into context. You can only beat what's

2262
01:57:05,867 --> 01:57:08,867
Speaker 19: in front of you, sure, but the margin of victory

2263
01:57:09,027 --> 01:57:11,587
Speaker 19: six lengths and compared to what she had beaten in

2264
01:57:11,667 --> 01:57:14,347
Speaker 19: the standard of those horses, that made her the highest

2265
01:57:14,427 --> 01:57:16,907
Speaker 19: ranked three year old in Australasia. So that is that

2266
01:57:17,067 --> 01:57:19,307
Speaker 19: is something really special. And she's not only caught the

2267
01:57:19,387 --> 01:57:21,987
Speaker 19: attention of you know, racing fans and followers here in

2268
01:57:22,027 --> 01:57:24,587
Speaker 19: New Zealand, she's definitely caught the eye of you know,

2269
01:57:24,707 --> 01:57:27,747
Speaker 19: some pretty serious racing judges over in Australia as well.

2270
01:57:28,027 --> 01:57:30,307
Speaker 19: And I guess what they're all talking about is they're

2271
01:57:30,347 --> 01:57:32,387
Speaker 19: excited to see what she can do in the ncbki

2272
01:57:32,467 --> 01:57:35,107
Speaker 19: We today. But then you know, Stephen marsha Train has

2273
01:57:35,147 --> 01:57:37,147
Speaker 19: made no bones about it. They're going to be targeting

2274
01:57:37,307 --> 01:57:40,827
Speaker 19: the ten million dollar Golden Eagle over in Sydney in

2275
01:57:41,387 --> 01:57:43,627
Speaker 19: the spring as a four year old. So she has

2276
01:57:43,667 --> 01:57:46,747
Speaker 19: got some big targets in mind, and her form to

2277
01:57:46,907 --> 01:57:50,227
Speaker 19: date absolutely, you know, would see her stack up against

2278
01:57:50,267 --> 01:57:51,667
Speaker 19: the very best and she would be one of the

2279
01:57:51,747 --> 01:57:53,667
Speaker 19: favorites for that race if she can go out and

2280
01:57:53,747 --> 01:57:55,227
Speaker 19: repeat what she's already done today.

2281
01:57:55,427 --> 01:57:57,907
Speaker 3: Of course, history will tell us that there have been

2282
01:57:58,067 --> 01:58:02,747
Speaker 3: certainties before who have been beaten. What are her potential

2283
01:58:03,067 --> 01:58:07,147
Speaker 3: vulnerabilities this afternoon? Who might throw a amongst the pigeons,

2284
01:58:07,187 --> 01:58:09,867
Speaker 3: to use the completely wrong analogy, Well.

2285
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Speaker 19: To be perfectly honest, Piney, the only thing that can

2286
01:58:12,227 --> 01:58:15,947
Speaker 19: really beat her today is extraordinarily bad luck. And I

2287
01:58:16,027 --> 01:58:18,347
Speaker 19: think there was, you know, there was all eyes were

2288
01:58:18,387 --> 01:58:20,707
Speaker 19: on the barrier drawer on Tuesday night to see if

2289
01:58:20,707 --> 01:58:23,107
Speaker 19: you know, maybe she would draw wide, maybe that would

2290
01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:25,187
Speaker 19: make it difficult for her. But she's drawn barrier too,

2291
01:58:25,267 --> 01:58:28,027
Speaker 19: which really gives her all the options. And she's pretty

2292
01:58:28,067 --> 01:58:29,947
Speaker 19: you know, she's pretty speedy out the gate. So it's

2293
01:58:30,267 --> 01:58:32,627
Speaker 19: it's unlikely you would say, based on what was seen,

2294
01:58:32,707 --> 01:58:34,467
Speaker 19: so far that she's going to say, miss the start

2295
01:58:34,547 --> 01:58:36,747
Speaker 19: and get buried away and you know, behind a wall

2296
01:58:36,787 --> 01:58:38,507
Speaker 19: of horses and not be able to get out at

2297
01:58:38,547 --> 01:58:42,027
Speaker 19: the right time. And the reality is piney. She's that explosive,

2298
01:58:42,067 --> 01:58:43,707
Speaker 19: you know, the way I like to talk about her,

2299
01:58:43,827 --> 01:58:46,667
Speaker 19: you know, in Keywi athletics terms, she's like a rising

2300
01:58:46,707 --> 01:58:48,867
Speaker 19: middle distance star like Sam Ruth. But she's got a

2301
01:58:48,947 --> 01:58:52,147
Speaker 19: sprint like Zoe Hops, so that sprint can generally get

2302
01:58:52,187 --> 01:58:54,347
Speaker 19: her out of any sort of trouble that she manages

2303
01:58:54,387 --> 01:58:56,427
Speaker 19: to find herself, and she can probably just you know,

2304
01:58:56,547 --> 01:58:58,667
Speaker 19: pull back, go wide and go around them and still

2305
01:58:58,707 --> 01:59:00,747
Speaker 19: win sort of things. So she is carrying a little

2306
01:59:00,747 --> 01:59:04,107
Speaker 19: bit of extra extra weight because she gets penalized because

2307
01:59:04,107 --> 01:59:07,027
Speaker 19: of her performances up up to now. So she's carrying

2308
01:59:07,067 --> 01:59:10,667
Speaker 19: fifty eight klos today on top. But I just can't

2309
01:59:10,747 --> 01:59:13,987
Speaker 19: see that stopping her. You know, even on her ratings alone,

2310
01:59:15,027 --> 01:59:17,507
Speaker 19: that would probably still see her at least two links

2311
01:59:17,547 --> 01:59:19,987
Speaker 19: better than the rest of the field. So yeah, it's

2312
01:59:20,067 --> 01:59:22,027
Speaker 19: hard to see her get beaten today. But look, this

2313
01:59:22,187 --> 01:59:23,827
Speaker 19: is racing. At the end of the day. Stranger things

2314
01:59:23,907 --> 01:59:26,667
Speaker 19: have happened. But no, she's a favorite for a very

2315
01:59:26,707 --> 01:59:27,147
Speaker 19: good reason.

2316
01:59:27,307 --> 01:59:29,547
Speaker 3: When you've got such a dominant favorite, how much does

2317
01:59:29,627 --> 01:59:33,147
Speaker 3: that change the way the other jockeys ride the race?

2318
01:59:33,987 --> 01:59:36,187
Speaker 19: Yeah, and to be honest, Fini, that is a very

2319
01:59:36,267 --> 01:59:40,347
Speaker 19: real possibility today that one of the other jockeys might

2320
01:59:40,507 --> 01:59:43,787
Speaker 19: decide to do something that sort of upsets her rhythm,

2321
01:59:43,947 --> 01:59:46,547
Speaker 19: upsets her tactics, you know. And I suppose by that,

2322
01:59:46,707 --> 01:59:49,307
Speaker 19: I mean someone could just shoot out of the gates

2323
01:59:49,387 --> 01:59:51,347
Speaker 19: and try and get sort of six links clear and

2324
01:59:51,747 --> 01:59:53,507
Speaker 19: you know, sort of not give her a chance to

2325
01:59:54,147 --> 01:59:56,347
Speaker 19: really wind up. She might get you know, another horse

2326
01:59:56,427 --> 01:59:58,307
Speaker 19: might get too far in front of her. We see

2327
01:59:58,387 --> 02:00:03,107
Speaker 19: sort of those daring tactics sometimes and sometimes they fail miserably,

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Speaker 19: but sometimes they really pay off. So you know, I

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Speaker 19: certainly I think Matt cart right, who's going to be

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Speaker 19: writing well written this afternoon, he's got to be aware

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Speaker 19: of those possibilities that other jockeys might do do something

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Speaker 19: just to throw him and her off her game. But yeah, look,

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Speaker 19: it's going to take a very very special performance from

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Speaker 19: and one that's you know, a real step up from

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Speaker 19: anything they've produced before to see her get knocked off

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Speaker 19: this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: All right, what time does the NZB can we jump?

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Speaker 3: And where can we see it.

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Speaker 19: Five forty eight pm the big race jumps and you

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Speaker 19: can watch it on sky Sport one. They're going to

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Speaker 19: be carring racing for the very first time, I think Piney,

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Speaker 19: So yeah, sky Sport one from five pm they'll be

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Speaker 19: showing the New Zealand Derby and then warming up to

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Speaker 19: the nzbkey we so you can watch it on sky

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Speaker 19: Sport one and also of course on track side. But look,

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Speaker 19: if you're try and racing for the first time and

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Speaker 19: you're not sort of, you know, perhaps so enamored with

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Speaker 19: some of the wagering and things like that, you know,

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Speaker 19: the broadcast that Sky Sport are going to put out

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Speaker 19: this afternoon is going to be very much entertainment focused.

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Speaker 19: They're going to be focused on what's happening on course

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Speaker 19: and all the entertainment aspects of it. So yeah, if

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Speaker 19: you're trying for the first time and you're you're keen

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Speaker 19: to see this girl go out and do what, you

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Speaker 19: know what sort of Lisa Carrington sort of does it,

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Speaker 19: you know every time she's sits in a boat, then yeah,

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Speaker 19: for sure, tune into Skysport one and we'll see the

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Speaker 19: x un file.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to seeing how it unfolds. Thanks so much

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Speaker 3: for taking time for a chat to us this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff cheers finey no, thank you Andrew, Andrew Gordy

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Speaker 3: there ahead of the mzbkre we five forty eight this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It jumps at allieleie, what are we coming up? Nine

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Speaker 3: to three we've shut the text machine off for the

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Speaker 3: Auckland FC tickets. A six ticket family pass up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: We've been taking texts over the last hour and we've

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Speaker 3: certainly got a few. I think that's probably the understatement

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Speaker 3: of the day, but our random winner generator has given

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Speaker 3: others heading off to watch Auckland FC against Perth Glory

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Speaker 3: tomorrow at go Media Stadium three o'clock kickoff. Somebody from

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Speaker 3: New Talks he B will be in touch with you

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Speaker 3: making them available to our audience, and all the best

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2377
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Speaker 3: Nine to three News Talks.

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Speaker 1: HEADB analyzing the plays and getting the insight. Weekend Sport

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Speaker 1: with Jason Vive News Talks MB.

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Speaker 3: Coming up five to three. Quick look ahead to tomorrow's

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Speaker 3: show as mentioned after midday tomorrow the man who gave

2382
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Speaker 3: Dave Rennie his marching orders from Rugby Australia, So how's

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Speaker 3: he feeling about him now being the All Blacks head coach,

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Speaker 3: Hamish mcclennan. After midday, Richenravendra is on the shows E

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Speaker 3: twenty Cricket World Cup Final early hours of Monday mornings.

2386
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Speaker 3: How are they feeling about that? We'll get you back

2387
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Speaker 3: to Melbourne with more Formula one analysis, Logan Rogerson as

2388
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Speaker 3: well out of Auckland FC and whatever happens in Eden

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Speaker 3: Park tonight Blues Vers Cusaders. Well, well we'll paint the

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Speaker 3: picture for you tomorrow and review it all. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: listening in Tim beverage after three. Huge thanks to Mark

2392
02:03:05,027 --> 02:03:09,947
Speaker 3: Kelly for producer with such enthusiasm and efficiency today you

2393
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Speaker 3: have earned the right to pick the exit song. Mkay

2394
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Speaker 3: what are we gone with?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 24: Thank you pie man Very, I'm honored. This is the

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Speaker 24: late great Toby Keith, one of my favorite country singers.

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Speaker 24: The great song called Red Solo Cup wonderful stop.

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Speaker 3: See to my folks.

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Speaker 5: Let's have a pie.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a pie. I love you, Red Solo Cup.

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Speaker 22: I love you up, Prosted the pie, Prosy the pie.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 22: I really love how you're easy to stack, but I

2405
02:03:48,587 --> 02:03:51,907
Speaker 22: really hate how you're easy to crack. Some beer runs

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02:03:51,987 --> 02:03:55,027
Speaker 22: down in front of my back. Well that, my friends,

2407
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Speaker 22: is quite yucky on you. But I have to admit

2408
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Speaker 22: that the ladies get smitten and maron how sharply my

2409
02:04:01,467 --> 02:04:04,427
Speaker 22: first name is written on you as a sharpie.

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Speaker 3: When I get to hitting on them to help me

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Speaker 3: get lucky. Red Soul Cup, I feel you up. Let's

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Speaker 3: have a party. Let's have a party. Yeah, love you,

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Speaker 3: Red Solo Cop.

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Speaker 5: What did you well?

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Speaker 21: Bro seed the party, brosed the party.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 22: I've seen you in blue, and I've seen you in yellow,

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Speaker 22: but only you Red will do for this fellow, because

2419
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Speaker 22: you are the abbot and to my costello, and you

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Speaker 22: are the.

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Speaker 5: Fruit to my loan.

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Speaker 22: Red Solo Cup, You're more than just plastic. You're more

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Speaker 22: than amazing.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen Life

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Speaker 1: to News Talks it be weekends from midday, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeart Radio.