1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: And running the country dot Co dot In said this 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: week for us as Hamish Mackay who joins us now 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: not need to talk to you again, Hamish, and can 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: I say you're looking good? 5 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Oh? I think fifty five kilos off does help the old, 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: the old, get the old carcass around, if you know 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: what I mean. 8 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, you guys have been talking about a rural 9 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: rural divide. We've heard about the rural urban divide, but 10 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: this is a rural rural divide. Are you trying to 11 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: suggest that farmers are not of one mind? 12 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Yes? Well, you know, the the egg Proud organization came 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: out quite a you know, a year or two ago 14 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: and said, look, there is no one way, but we 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: have to be one, you know, if we want to 16 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: if farmers want to make some real progress here. And 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with farm gate prices at the moment, 18 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: but they'd never be agreeing enough so to speak, to 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: put together something like the Dutch with as a farmer's 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: party that actually gets into parliament. It's a little bit 21 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: of tall poppy. There was too great. A great example 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: was Jeff Ross's and Jeff and Justin Ross's Lake Harwi 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: a station where they had the they had the actresses 24 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the shearing porthole and the sheep 25 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: went down, and rural New Zealand just went into this, 26 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: you know, off the war kind of attack on what 27 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: they were. Who really cares? And then a week later 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: the beautiful Ruinui station which has run just north of Taire, 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: happy old school traditional farm, well it turns out that 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: the lake harwere and ruin It couldn't be more different 31 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: in some people's eyes, but in fact that they shear 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: so many of the same sort of ideas and principles, 33 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: and so you know, it's it is not to be fair. 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: It is not a united front out there in the 35 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: rural space, and it probably needs to be. 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: And to be fair. Jeff Ross had the last laugh 37 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: about how we are stationed as well, because only weeks 38 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: after that, Conde Nas came out and gave them a 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: fair star rating for their accommodation facilities and basically they're 40 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: they're turning a profit where many New Zealand fans aren't. 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, so hello, and I did rather like the 42 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: white shade that they painted their shearing shed so you 43 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: can see the blood spatters. 44 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, look, look, you know I mean, how 45 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: could you, you know, I just I love what they 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: do there. It's different, but it's still great. Yeah. 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: Now we've got a farmer confidence survey out this week 48 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: and farmers, yeah, farmers are pretty happy. 49 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, look very farmers a huge lift in their confidence 50 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: and they are at that plus ten dollars per kilogram 51 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: of milk solids, which can represent a pretty good year 52 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: for those who produce at a good level sheep and 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: beef and lamb. Lamb's being very strong, beef very very strong. 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: So though the confidence across those sectors is definitely out, 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: not so much for the grain and the seed and 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: the arable guys that they are struggling a little bit 57 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: and their confidence is down just there the volatility of 58 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: the global market for them, and also there's you know, 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: things like you know, having to deal with pests and 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: disease and then yet we get an outfit like Bayer 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: having to shut down their New Zealand Research Development arm 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: and so you know, a fear few challenges for our 63 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: arable farmers. But you'd have to say, across the board, 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: farmer confidence definitely up. 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: And that's a good thing because it all flows through 66 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: and I thank you very much Hemus Rakai from the Country, 67 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: the Country, dot co, dot m Z. 68 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 69 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 70 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio