1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:13,653 Speaker 1: from News Talks ab Our sport O. 3 00:00:13,853 --> 00:00:18,013 Speaker 2: Andrew Saville is in this morning and big Old weekend 4 00:00:18,013 --> 00:00:23,453 Speaker 2: is sports. Let's kick things off with Eden Park. What yeah, 5 00:00:23,533 --> 00:00:25,893 Speaker 2: we've got double head ay Keew's in the Kiwi Ferns 6 00:00:25,973 --> 00:00:26,613 Speaker 2: at eden Park. 7 00:00:26,733 --> 00:00:30,693 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, You've got the All Blacks, the both Kiwi 8 00:00:30,733 --> 00:00:33,293 Speaker 3: teams and the Black Caps playing all on the same weekend, 9 00:00:33,293 --> 00:00:37,093 Speaker 3: which often happens around October November. I'm actually out at 10 00:00:37,133 --> 00:00:42,053 Speaker 3: Kiwi Ferns training as we speak in Newmarket and Auckland. 11 00:00:42,573 --> 00:00:45,333 Speaker 3: Beautiful day. Hopefully it's like this tomorrow for the big 12 00:00:45,373 --> 00:00:48,213 Speaker 3: double header at eden Park. Looking forward to this. The 13 00:00:48,293 --> 00:00:52,453 Speaker 3: Kiwi's Tongue should be at hum Dinger as it always is, 14 00:00:53,013 --> 00:00:57,813 Speaker 3: the crowd should be an immense mainly sea of red, 15 00:00:58,973 --> 00:01:01,813 Speaker 3: and the Kiwi Ferns are up in the earlier game 16 00:01:01,853 --> 00:01:04,973 Speaker 3: against Ozzie so that'll be a good watch as well. 17 00:01:06,653 --> 00:01:09,653 Speaker 3: The tongue of some wore men's game last week was 18 00:01:10,693 --> 00:01:13,413 Speaker 3: outstanding some More playing very well, and the week before 19 00:01:13,453 --> 00:01:15,373 Speaker 3: that the Kiwis I thought they played really well against 20 00:01:15,373 --> 00:01:18,333 Speaker 3: some More. These some More and Tongue and teams are 21 00:01:18,973 --> 00:01:21,733 Speaker 3: stacked with n RAL superstars these days, which is great 22 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:25,533 Speaker 3: for rugby league. So again looking forward to tomorrow and 23 00:01:25,573 --> 00:01:28,813 Speaker 3: what should be a great day for rugby league on 24 00:01:29,373 --> 00:01:29,893 Speaker 3: Eden Park. 25 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:33,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, so nine am would start. The nine am is 26 00:01:33,493 --> 00:01:35,813 Speaker 2: kick off for the All Blacks and I'm obviously gonna 27 00:01:35,813 --> 00:01:37,573 Speaker 2: be difficult, beau. They have to wait until Q and 28 00:01:37,613 --> 00:01:39,893 Speaker 2: A is over before they tune in to see what's 29 00:01:39,893 --> 00:01:41,093 Speaker 2: happening in the rugby. 30 00:01:41,493 --> 00:01:42,653 Speaker 3: Of course, why are you laughing? 31 00:01:44,533 --> 00:01:48,893 Speaker 2: But what are you looking for in this test? Yeah, 32 00:01:49,133 --> 00:01:51,573 Speaker 2: it's always a tricky one that the Chicago effect is 33 00:01:51,573 --> 00:01:55,453 Speaker 2: always a bit always, you know, it's a slightly odd. 34 00:01:55,493 --> 00:01:56,853 Speaker 2: And then the start of the Northern Tour. 35 00:01:57,613 --> 00:02:00,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit of a leveler. I remember back 36 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:02,493 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, it was it was all eyes on 37 00:02:02,493 --> 00:02:04,173 Speaker 3: the All Blacks that did a lot of promo work 38 00:02:04,253 --> 00:02:06,293 Speaker 3: during the week and then the game was almost secondary 39 00:02:06,493 --> 00:02:08,533 Speaker 3: and it felt like that when they played they were 40 00:02:08,573 --> 00:02:10,693 Speaker 3: well beaten by Ireland on that day, the first ever 41 00:02:10,773 --> 00:02:14,493 Speaker 3: Irish winning history. So some there's only I think three 42 00:02:14,533 --> 00:02:16,333 Speaker 3: or four players returning for the All Blacks in that game, 43 00:02:16,373 --> 00:02:22,013 Speaker 3: but but some interesting memories for them. Yeah, look, I 44 00:02:22,133 --> 00:02:23,813 Speaker 3: just on this tour, Jack I want to see this 45 00:02:23,933 --> 00:02:29,333 Speaker 3: All Black team play with consistency, less clutter, more direction, 46 00:02:31,013 --> 00:02:34,533 Speaker 3: more ad lib rugby as well, which we know all 47 00:02:34,573 --> 00:02:37,253 Speaker 3: these All Black players are capable of. I just I 48 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:40,613 Speaker 3: just think I get this feeling again this year that 49 00:02:40,653 --> 00:02:44,173 Speaker 3: they've been over coached in a lot of pre prescribed 50 00:02:44,253 --> 00:02:46,493 Speaker 3: moves and what have you. Let's just see if the 51 00:02:46,493 --> 00:02:48,933 Speaker 3: All Blacks can play a bit of unstructured rugby, which 52 00:02:48,973 --> 00:02:51,373 Speaker 3: is the Northern Hemisphere teams usually struggle to cope with. 53 00:02:52,693 --> 00:02:55,573 Speaker 3: On this tour, I think they're going to have to 54 00:02:54,973 --> 00:02:58,253 Speaker 3: to to win these four games in a row. I'm 55 00:02:58,253 --> 00:03:01,973 Speaker 3: not entirely subscribing to this theory that the Irish team 56 00:03:02,013 --> 00:03:05,413 Speaker 3: are going to be completely underdone. They haven't played together 57 00:03:05,453 --> 00:03:07,533 Speaker 3: as a unit since, but a lot of them played 58 00:03:07,533 --> 00:03:10,573 Speaker 3: together in the lines under Andy Farrell, who's also the 59 00:03:10,613 --> 00:03:14,093 Speaker 3: Irish coach. Yeah, and a lot of them, most of 60 00:03:14,093 --> 00:03:16,173 Speaker 3: them have played a heck of a lot of rugby together, 61 00:03:16,613 --> 00:03:19,133 Speaker 3: So I'm not entirely sure that is going to affect 62 00:03:19,173 --> 00:03:23,093 Speaker 3: them affect them too much. The All Blacks will be 63 00:03:23,133 --> 00:03:26,053 Speaker 3: hoping they can ambush them a little bit and steal 64 00:03:26,053 --> 00:03:29,613 Speaker 3: a march there, but I don't know. I think the 65 00:03:29,653 --> 00:03:33,293 Speaker 3: Irish are far too experienced for that. I'd love to 66 00:03:33,333 --> 00:03:35,813 Speaker 3: see the All Blacks just really play with some freedom 67 00:03:36,333 --> 00:03:40,933 Speaker 3: and again not only whin tomorrow, but win consistently on 68 00:03:40,973 --> 00:03:43,453 Speaker 3: this tour, which we haven't seen under Scott Robertson. 69 00:03:43,533 --> 00:03:44,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly now. 70 00:03:45,013 --> 00:03:45,293 Speaker 3: I know. 71 00:03:45,693 --> 00:03:48,333 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, Sev you were very much in 72 00:03:48,373 --> 00:03:52,533 Speaker 2: support of the comments made by esteemed Rugby observer and 73 00:03:52,573 --> 00:03:56,173 Speaker 2: commentator Jack Tame, who was lamenting the extent to which 74 00:03:56,213 --> 00:04:00,133 Speaker 2: box kicks have become the kind of default position of players. 75 00:04:00,813 --> 00:04:02,173 Speaker 3: See fewer box kicks? 76 00:04:02,173 --> 00:04:04,373 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what you know. 77 00:04:04,413 --> 00:04:06,613 Speaker 2: We say a lot of things on radio, and you 78 00:04:06,653 --> 00:04:08,413 Speaker 2: get a lot of texts on the text machine. Few 79 00:04:08,413 --> 00:04:11,213 Speaker 2: things get A few things have connected with New Zealand, 80 00:04:11,213 --> 00:04:14,013 Speaker 2: like my comments on box kicks, and I was I 81 00:04:14,173 --> 00:04:17,453 Speaker 2: was especially pleased to see today in the New Zealand 82 00:04:17,453 --> 00:04:22,053 Speaker 2: here front pastg McCord comments from a steam from another 83 00:04:22,213 --> 00:04:26,973 Speaker 2: esteemed Rugby observer and commentator, Sir Richie McCaw, lamenting the 84 00:04:27,093 --> 00:04:29,973 Speaker 2: extent to which box kicks have become the default position 85 00:04:30,053 --> 00:04:32,933 Speaker 2: in world Rugby. I just you know, I think I 86 00:04:32,973 --> 00:04:35,133 Speaker 2: think we can say with some confidence that he was 87 00:04:35,133 --> 00:04:39,733 Speaker 2: listening to Saturday mornings on news Talks. Jack has a point. 88 00:04:40,133 --> 00:04:42,053 Speaker 2: Jack has a point, So yeah, he. 89 00:04:42,013 --> 00:04:44,573 Speaker 3: Would have been he would have had his ear buds 90 00:04:44,613 --> 00:04:48,773 Speaker 3: in midway through his one hundred k Saturday Morning want Me, 91 00:04:49,293 --> 00:04:51,533 Speaker 3: and he thought, you know what, I totally agree with Jack. 92 00:04:51,573 --> 00:04:53,813 Speaker 3: I'm going to make it my intention of my crusade 93 00:04:53,853 --> 00:04:56,573 Speaker 3: to try and get rid of too much rugby. Yeah, 94 00:04:56,653 --> 00:05:00,373 Speaker 3: too right, So we'll set I mean the Actually, I 95 00:05:00,533 --> 00:05:05,173 Speaker 3: I don't know how much kicking we'll see in the morning, 96 00:05:05,213 --> 00:05:07,053 Speaker 3: hopefully not too much, but I've the other night I 97 00:05:07,573 --> 00:05:11,213 Speaker 3: watched some highlights of the English Premiership, which is four 98 00:05:11,253 --> 00:05:14,213 Speaker 3: or five weeks into its season, and I was pleasantly 99 00:05:14,253 --> 00:05:16,213 Speaker 3: surprised by the way a lot of the teams are 100 00:05:16,253 --> 00:05:19,413 Speaker 3: moving the ball, a lot of young backs they're using 101 00:05:19,453 --> 00:05:22,253 Speaker 3: these days, and I think England could be a real 102 00:05:22,293 --> 00:05:25,133 Speaker 3: threat as well in a couple of weeks next week 103 00:05:25,213 --> 00:05:30,333 Speaker 3: rather because it looks like they've gone away and these 104 00:05:30,373 --> 00:05:32,333 Speaker 3: the conditions are still pretty good up there. It's not 105 00:05:32,373 --> 00:05:35,293 Speaker 3: totally winter yet. But I was impressed by the way 106 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:36,893 Speaker 3: they move the ball. So we may see that from 107 00:05:36,933 --> 00:05:40,093 Speaker 3: the Irish again tomorrow. And just the other quick point, Jake, 108 00:05:40,413 --> 00:05:42,573 Speaker 3: I know Nzia has made a big thing this week 109 00:05:42,613 --> 00:05:45,573 Speaker 3: of taking the game to America. And yes, I think 110 00:05:45,613 --> 00:05:47,893 Speaker 3: the All Blacks make some good money out of these 111 00:05:47,973 --> 00:05:52,293 Speaker 3: exhibition games in America against Ireland, against maybe South Africa 112 00:05:52,333 --> 00:05:55,733 Speaker 3: in the future. But it is not New Zealand Rugby's 113 00:05:55,813 --> 00:05:58,853 Speaker 3: job to foster rugby in America. It's New Zealand Rugby's 114 00:05:58,933 --> 00:06:02,173 Speaker 3: job to foster rugby here. I just hope those at 115 00:06:02,173 --> 00:06:06,253 Speaker 3: the top aren't forgetting their primary roles after this week. 116 00:06:06,573 --> 00:06:09,133 Speaker 2: Well Seed, Hey, thanks so much, Sev, enjoy the weekend. 117 00:06:09,213 --> 00:06:12,173 Speaker 2: We will catch again soon our Sporto Andrew Seville. 118 00:06:12,213 --> 00:06:16,293 Speaker 1: There for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen 119 00:06:16,413 --> 00:06:19,213 Speaker 1: live to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, 120 00:06:19,453 --> 00:06:21,493 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.