1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Dan Mitchison is our US correspondent with US this afternoon. Dan, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Hey, good afternoon, Ryan. So no cease fire, 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: but I mean there at least there is something a 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: pause on infrastructure, energy, infrastructure strikes. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and and like you're saying, at least 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: they talked and a little bit of progress was made. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: It was interesting. I found that the Putin, who is 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: notorious for keeping world leaders waiting, was speaking at this 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: conference right up until the time that he was supposed 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: to speak with President Trump, and he didn't seem very 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: worried about it. And he had somebody who was moderating 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: the event kept looking at his watch and saying, shouldn't 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 2: you shouldn't you be back at the Kremlin right now 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: speaking with the President. And he was like, no, no, 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: we're not going to worry about that. But again, Trump 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: was on social media he said the talk ended with 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: understanding that they're gonna be working quickly, and you know, 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: he wants an end of this thing, at least, that's 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: what he's saying. Whether or not something will come to 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: fruition between him and mister Putin, that's that's yet to 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: be seen. 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: And obviously Trump is saying, well, I mean he's not 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: exactly coming out and bashing Putent like he did with Zelensky. 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: I mean, how's that going down? 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: No, I mean it's not. I mean I think he is. 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: He's walking a little bit of a tight rope. I 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: think that you've got more people demanding this end to 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: the war in Europe than you do over here. Right now, 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: you've heard him trying to say that that they have 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: they had these these troops encircled, which, as you mentioned, 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: we have not verified that over here. And you know 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: that the Americans could be involved in World War three, 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: which is just trying to scare people at this point 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: in time. So I think I think Putin is going 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: to try to drag this out as long as possible. 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: And what kind of deal will be made, I think 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: we'll depend more on unfortunately, between the US and Russia 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: that it will be on Ukraine, which is sad. 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Can you give us a sin? I was watching Fox 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: News for my sins for a couple of hours yesterday. 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I just so happened to be had the time, and 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: there's actually very little coverage of the war in Ukraine. 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot bigger domestic issues going on, 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: whereas over here it seems to be all that we're 45 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: talking about. And I mean we're probably the furthest country 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: that you could ever imagine from Ukraine in terms of 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: how we're directly affected by it. Is it fear that 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: actually most Americans sort of don't really think about it. 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's been put on the back burner, 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: especially with the presidential election that we had back in 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: November and with the state of the economy right now 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: with Elon Musk. But one of the things that I've 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: always loved about New Zealand, and I've always said about 54 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: everybody in that country, is I think you have a 55 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: broader scope of what is going on in the world. 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: And when I've talked to colleagues down there that they 57 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: say that is because we are a little bit more isolated. 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: You have fifty giant states that you're trying to track 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: news around right now. So we have our country a 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: four million plus, but we are very interested in the 61 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: outside world. So I think you get a lot more 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: perhaps international news and a lot more interest in that 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: down in your part of the world than we do 64 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: up here. A lot of the time. 65 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna nothing's happening here. 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: That's why not true. 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: That is not taking hey, with anything going on, anything 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: juicy in these JFK documents. 69 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: I wish, I wish we could say that we have 70 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: something to report on. And the fact that they dragged 71 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: this out and didn't release these documents and do this 72 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: big dump until just a short time ago is saying something. 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: Right now, we were told that we were going to 74 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: have you know, eighty thousand documents previously unreleased information in them. 75 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: Right now, most of these that we are looking at 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: and this and historians are going to tell you this 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: is going to take time to go through. Most of 78 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: the files are just scans of documents. We have some 79 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: blurred or difficult to read notes. There are photographs, are 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: sound recordings, mostly from the sixties. There are conspiracy theories 81 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: that are in there right now, several about the Warring 82 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: Commission that looked into the assassination. But there is not 83 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: one shining bright light that says this is going to 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: put this to rest and answer all these conspiracy theories. 85 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Isn't that funny? And it makes you wonder why on 86 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: earth would they not have released this years ago, decades ago? 87 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: You know, well, it's true and An interesting thing is 88 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: we sort of have Oliver Stone to thank for that, 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: because when the movie Born on the fourth of July 90 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: came out, that's when there was a lot more interest 91 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: in this and they said, okay, we're going to release 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: everything within the next twenty five years because that movie 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: got a lot of a lot of people talking. 94 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Nice one, Dan, thank you for that. 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