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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b It's an all time classic,

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Speaker 1: is it not. That's Lady Hawk in My Delirium. So

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Speaker 1: Lady Hawk's going to be making a return with the

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Speaker 1: performance of songs from her debut album was announced yesterday.

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Speaker 1: She's going to make up part of the lineup of

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Speaker 1: the Other's Way, others Way Yet the Other's Way Festival.

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Speaker 1: It's Auckland's favorite street party, that's how they describe it.

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Speaker 1: And so Lady Hawk's going to be performing alongside Lady

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Speaker 1: six Princess Chelsea Savage. It's happening in November, the end

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Speaker 1: of November. So yeah, that should be that should be

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Speaker 1: good fun. Nay I love it. Song twenty five to

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Speaker 1: ten on News Talks. It'd be time to catch up

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Speaker 1: with our film reviewer Francesca Rudkin, who is with us

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Speaker 1: this morning. More than good morning, good morning. Really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to getting your thoughts on our first film this morning.

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Speaker 1: This is the new key we release have listened to.

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Speaker 1: We were dangerous, as Island has a long history of

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Speaker 1: accommodating dubious characters.

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Speaker 2: We've got all sorts waste, straight sex, delinquent. That's a

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Speaker 2: new one. Hi, I'm Nillie.

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Speaker 1: That's Daisy.

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Speaker 2: We're three girls in the Leaky Hub.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we of course had the stars of We Were

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Speaker 1: Dangerous on our show this time last week. Francisc you've

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to see the film, so tell us

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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this is the debut feature film from Josephine Stewart

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Speaker 2: to Few, and I really enjoyed this film. I think

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Speaker 2: she has told this story so beautifully. Everything is considered

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Speaker 2: in this film, Jack, from the actors who played the parts,

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Speaker 2: to the to the location, the cinematography, to the costume.

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Speaker 2: Everything kind of works together so beautifully. And I just

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Speaker 2: love that about this film and about Josephine as a storyteller.

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Speaker 2: You can just tell so much kind of care and

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Speaker 2: thought has gone into how to present this story. Set

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Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty four, it's about a group of teenage girls,

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Speaker 2: young girls who were sent to an island where they

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Speaker 2: attend to multi school for encouragible and delinquent girls. And

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Speaker 2: as you heard, they're wets and strays and now they've

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Speaker 2: got few sex delinquents there as well. It is very

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Speaker 2: much a coming of age drama. It's a social commentary

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Speaker 2: on colonization and patriarchy and godliness and abuse and care,

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Speaker 2: which I think is just very timely obviously. But what

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Speaker 2: I really enjoy is these are pretty heavy, serious topics

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Speaker 2: to discuss, but they also dealt with a lightness. There

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Speaker 2: is humor here, There is hope here. There are characters

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Speaker 2: who maybe a sort of set up to be the

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Speaker 2: villains in this film, but the door is just a

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Speaker 2: jar a little bit that we see that they have

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Speaker 2: some heart and maybe realize that the way they're doing

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Speaker 2: things isn't the right way to do things. Wonderful young cast,

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Speaker 2: They're really fantastic. This film has been getting sort of

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Speaker 2: critical acclaim and winning awards overseas. It won the Special

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Speaker 2: Dury Prize when it was screened in Stuff by Southwest

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Speaker 2: earlier in the year, and I think that that is

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Speaker 2: going to continue on. I think this will become a

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Speaker 2: festival favorite around the world. But I also think that

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Speaker 2: New Zealand is there. You're going to love them. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's really wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Ah so good. A couple of things. First of all,

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Speaker 1: didn't include anything it didn't need to in our tweety

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Speaker 1: something right, so nice and nice and like snappy, good storytelling.

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Speaker 1: But also I think that point about the way in

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Speaker 1: which it manages to deal with very heavy themes, but

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Speaker 1: not in a way that's kind of preachy or feels heavy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to articulate that anymore succinctly, but

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Speaker 1: there are these heavy, timely important themes about abuse and

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Speaker 1: kind of done with. There's a real lightness to it.

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Speaker 2: And look, you'll know, Jack, I never talk about endings

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Speaker 2: of films. I very very many will talk about an

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Speaker 2: just with the smile on your face and a little

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Speaker 2: skipping your step and thinking it's not so bad being rebellious,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like it you leave uplifted

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Speaker 2: and kind of you know, as opposed to just go,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you know, it's just horrible and terrible,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I think that it's something that Josephine's

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Speaker 2: just balanced really really nicely. Is the heaviness with the lightness,

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Speaker 2: just getting that balance right, and that's really hard to do.

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Speaker 1: I well, see, okay, so that's we were dangerous it

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Speaker 1: is in cinemas. Now, let's haven't listened to another film

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Speaker 1: showing at the theater at the moment. This is minus Man.

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Speaker 1: He know, my name is Spranistein, my name is John Lennon,

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Speaker 2: George Hanson the Pete first when I saw it at Steade,

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Speaker 2: I shall never forget it. I want to represent you

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Speaker 2: be a manager, but you've got to experience mister Brian.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's minus Man. A story that feels relatively familiar.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so this is the story of the first Beatle,

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Speaker 2: Brian Epstein, who was their manager. And he is Brian

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Speaker 2: is this lovely, sort of closeted, gay Jewish young man.

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Speaker 2: He runs the family record stores. And in nineteen sixty one,

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Speaker 2: get this, he goes to a lunchtime gig. I want

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Speaker 2: to bring back lunchtime gigs. I think that would be

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Speaker 2: so much fun to see this unknown band called the Beatles.

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Speaker 2: They're playing in Liverpool, and he just looks around and goes,

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Speaker 2: these guys have something and off we go. And he

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Speaker 2: their manager, and they tease him quite a lot about

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Speaker 2: his posh ways, but yeah, off they go on this journey.

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Speaker 2: So it is a relationship that kind of saw this

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Speaker 2: band become one of the biggest bands in the world,

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Speaker 2: and you sort of see Brian he just had these

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Speaker 2: incredible instincts. He just understood the potential of the Beatles,

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Speaker 2: he got great deals, he knew what was needed to

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Speaker 2: kind of break them internationally, and so that's what we

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Speaker 2: kind of get. That look behind the scenes of it

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Speaker 2: doesn't show away from his struggle with addiction and gambling

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Speaker 2: and his sexuality. Obviously, the huge success that the Beatles

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Speaker 2: have that comes with a huge amount of stress and

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Speaker 2: a huge amount of struggles, so you kind of see

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Speaker 2: all that taking place. It's very much about him as

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Speaker 2: opposed to the Beatles and how they sort of dealt

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Speaker 2: with fame. It's very actually jack very little Beatles music

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Speaker 2: in this film, which may have been an issue about

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Speaker 2: I think the story is told well. It is a

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Speaker 2: great story, a fascinating story to tell. They've tried to

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Speaker 2: kind of like it up and tell it in an

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Speaker 2: interesting way, and occasionally the fourth wall was broken down

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Speaker 2: and Brian talks directly to us, and it tries to

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Speaker 2: have sort of once again a lightness to it, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure they quite nailed the balance. I felt

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Speaker 2: like this film we actually did need to go into

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Speaker 2: a little bit more depth as to what was happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a fun, fun, fun look at a period in time

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Speaker 2: that a lot of people will.

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Speaker 1: Remember and enjoy. I mean far back from me to

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Speaker 1: judge something from twelve seconds of trailer that were but no,

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Speaker 1: but give it a go. Well, it just it sounded

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Speaker 1: like it sounded like the actual the band members, but

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Speaker 1: Paul McCartney and John then were maybe a little hammed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, possibly, And I'm not sure we really sort of

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Speaker 2: got I think we learned more about Brian than we

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Speaker 2: did necessarily about his relationship with them. It's sort of

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Speaker 2: like almost behind the scenes of how they became world famous.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, that makes lot sense. Yeah, well, lunchtime gigs

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Speaker 1: previously a thing? Was it all?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I never I'd never heard of lunchtime gigs,

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Speaker 2: But it's quite fun. How good that half of us

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Speaker 2: kind even step away from our desk to have our

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Speaker 2: lunch these days? But it's how good we go. I'm

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Speaker 2: just popping out for half and how to see some

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Speaker 2: young band and how invigorated would you go? Back to work.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be great.

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Speaker 1: That's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder why we don't do that if your

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Speaker 2: world durre in. Yeah, I think it's probably pretty obvious

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Speaker 2: reasons why we. I think there's a lot of bands

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Speaker 2: that are like young going to play behalf in our lunchtime. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we wouldn't have the time really to do it,

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Speaker 2: but it is quite fun. Yeah. They went down into

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Speaker 2: the sort of dark, dark venue. Yeah, band at lunchtime.

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Speaker 1: And we used to do it at schools, you know,

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Speaker 1: like our school school bands would do it. My ill

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Speaker 1: fated school band. You had a couple of big lunchtime

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Speaker 1: gigs over the years. We're still talking about those today. No,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it's a good idea. I'm into it,

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Speaker 1: very good. Okay, that's minus man, Thank you friends, you skip.

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Speaker 1: That's showing in cinemas now. So as We Were Dangerous,

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Speaker 1: jax is Laura. I saw that film We Were Dangerous

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Speaker 1: last week and the team that I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: It is a great New Zealand film. So Laura adds

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Speaker 1: to Francesca's recommendation, there go along and see We Were

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