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Speaker 1: Welcoming to the podcast for Wednesday, Tuesday, Wednesday Wenesday, the

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Speaker 1: seventeenth of December. Yesterday I talked about on that if

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Speaker 1: you don't know, we do a radio show as well

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Speaker 1: as a podcast. Yesterday on the Today on the radio

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Speaker 1: show podcast Jesuz's Confusing Yeah, I talked about how I

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Speaker 1: was at the pub yesterday and then my missus text

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Speaker 1: me said where are you? Yeah? You up? And at

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Speaker 1: that time, there was a there was an emergency going

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Speaker 1: on with some of the people that I was working with,

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Speaker 1: and they were they had to drive out somewhere to

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Speaker 1: grab something, and I was thinking, God, is that the

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Speaker 1: worst case scenario for a Friday afternoon. They turned around

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Speaker 1: to me and they get it's Tuesday. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got you. And ain't that just the silly season?

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Speaker 2: My one?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was Friday on Monday because it had

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Speaker 3: quite a busy weekend, and then it was the kid's

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Speaker 3: last day of school on Monday. They went back for

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Speaker 3: one day and to celebrate, about four groups of the

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Speaker 3: parents got together and had a little barbecue and I

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Speaker 3: was like, I've got to go home and do some

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Speaker 3: fucking work.

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Speaker 1: Oh, We've got work again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I've got work in five hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so one to come. One more show today on

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Speaker 1: the radio show, which if you just listen to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: you don't know we do a radio show. We talked about.

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Speaker 3: Your nice of you to join us Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Jurish in the middle of a podcast. You if you

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Speaker 1: didn't know you married. We do a podcast as well

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Speaker 1: as a radio show. We do, you know I do.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about your go to YouTube concerts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you get home, I've been hammering Queen's at the

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Speaker 1: Stone Age. I'll rotate through them. The funniest part about

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Speaker 1: it to me is sometimes you'll get home and your

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Speaker 1: you know, you check a concert on. Some nights I'll

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Speaker 1: get home and I'll go to check a concert on

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Speaker 1: and they've all got the little red line underneath them

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Speaker 1: and YouTube, which means you've already watched it, and I

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Speaker 1: just got no memory of watching it.

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Speaker 2: But that's really that's always good. Now I go back

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Speaker 2: to a few cricket highlights from back in the day.

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Speaker 2: I've been recently to the ninety two I mean, we

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Speaker 2: did a podcast about it on the Gender podcast, but

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Speaker 2: went back to World Cup ninety two World Cup and

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Speaker 2: particularly the new Zealand highlights featuring Petty Batch and just smashing.

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Speaker 2: I mean he came out of nowhere, Petty Batch all

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Speaker 2: sudden started tonking around at the top of the innings

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Speaker 2: and that was particularly memorable for me.

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Speaker 1: We got into my dad's objected me to about an

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Speaker 1: hour mam, my long suffering partner into about an hour

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Speaker 1: of was he macream? Oh man, Yeah, good eye opener. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the kind of thing you need to pass

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Speaker 2: He was the bowler. It was a bowler's bowler, was

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Speaker 2: a Macrium because it was part he had pace. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it swung in hoop at hope around corners park.

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Speaker 2: Terrifying bowler to face.

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Speaker 1: One of those guys when you watch them bowl someone out,

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Speaker 1: doesn't he bother that every ball?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't always the ball wasn't always doctors

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Speaker 3: You remember that Test match was the Mackroan was bowling, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Unice was bowling, and New Zealand chased down around twenty

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Speaker 3: And there was a lot of chat about brave about

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Speaker 2: They'd destroyed us and the two tests before that, like

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Speaker 2: so we were terrified.

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Speaker 1: What are they calling that a Yorker?

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Speaker 2: They were terrified, And then all of a sudden we

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Speaker 3: Was it three twenty four to win for five? And

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Speaker 3: I remember hearing even as a kid, all the whispers

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Speaker 2: Quite hard to Yeah, I don't know. I think they

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Speaker 1: The other one Joe Jury and I did on a

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Speaker 1: they had the twenty sixteen Game seven of the NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals on. That was the one that when Lebron James

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Speaker 1: Kurry Irving hit the last minute shot. That one gets

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Speaker 1: low scoring for a basketball game, which is always good

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Speaker 1: because it means every basket's really intense. That one gets

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Speaker 2: They need to change it. So there's really really, really

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Speaker 2: really good Wi Fi on planes. Yeah, because that's the

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Speaker 2: time when you'd love to be able to just drum

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Speaker 2: up anything that you've ever thought like, that's your time.

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Speaker 2: You've got all this time in the year. I just

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Speaker 2: want to be I want to go down some hole.

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Speaker 2: I want to go down some rabbit holes.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to be radicalized.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be so good. I feel like

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Speaker 1: just doom scrolling. Elon mus Con sort that out, can't he? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: will be a time in New Zealand's got a Fat

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Speaker 1: Freddy's Drop concert on there. I'll watch that as well.

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Speaker 1: Great band too, Drift in and Out of consciousness too,

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Speaker 1: or you're on a plane, you know, because they're never

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Speaker 1: gonna surprise you. I'd maybe it used to go to

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Speaker 1: one of those songs has got a henous alarm bell

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Speaker 1: I said, the Eddie Vida one swinging off the camera boom.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whatever concert that was.

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Speaker 2: That's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the go to safety. Oh yeah. But

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Speaker 1: then he well I think he's ninety three or something

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Speaker 1: end of that thing and they swung the boom out

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jerry, that there the hanging from the stage at

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Speaker 3: Pink p.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is dangerous stuff. Man, You are miles up.

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Speaker 1: He's like twenty feet.

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Speaker 2: In the air.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he would have died of had fallen off. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, actually insane.

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Speaker 2: Well, you don't let it go, do you know you're trying?

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Speaker 2: It's that simple. Don't let it go. If you guys

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Speaker 2: have watched the Michael Jackson, is this this is a documentary? Sad? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I've watched one documentary on Jackson, probably the one that.

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Speaker 2: It's all of the recordings of him rehearsing for his

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Speaker 2: final that he was doing.

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Speaker 3: Said, isn't it I think it's sad because happy, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: I it's sad.

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Speaker 3: I found it sad because a guy that was right

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Speaker 2: Interesting was just watching him control the how it was.

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Speaker 2: But that was what I was fascinated by. I was

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Speaker 2: fascinated by the fact that he was he had you know,

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Speaker 2: was like, no, no, you're wrong, you need to be

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Speaker 2: how I want it. He was really specific, like I

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Speaker 2: couldn't tell the difference what the hell he was talking about.

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Speaker 2: But also he was so skinny.

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Speaker 1: A podcast with Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: That reminds me need to put a request in for Lundy.

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Speaker 2: You know that he's doing interviews now he wasn't allowed to.

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Speaker 2: He's allowed to now they've lifted the they've lifted the band.

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Speaker 2: Then they've just lifted the band. He might come on

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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 1: What's your first question?

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Speaker 2: Did you do it? I'd have to think about what

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Speaker 2: that first question was, moo, but but there's definitely an

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Speaker 2: opening question. It's really interesting. It's an interesting case, and

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Speaker 2: there's so much to ask him. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: I think anything I do know about it has been

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Speaker 2: It's bloody because look, he either did it or he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two options.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And if he did, then then you know, okay,

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Speaker 2: it's been twenty odd years. And just if he didn't,

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Speaker 2: let's just imagine he didn't do it, then he which

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Speaker 2: he claims he didn't. Then he's had his wife and child,

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Speaker 2: you know, taken away from him, and he's gone to

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Speaker 2: jar for twenty years and he's been accused of it. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: could you think of a worse thing to There is

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Speaker 2: not a single thing that as a father of one

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Speaker 2: that you could possibly face. Like what stops you?

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Speaker 1: I reckon, if he did it, that's probably a worse situation.

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Speaker 2: What stopped you from not committing suicide in that situation?

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Speaker 2: It's an omen you know. And also I want to

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Speaker 2: know when did you realize that you were the main

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Speaker 2: suspect in the in this in the murder of your

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Speaker 2: your wife and your child. When did you At what

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Speaker 2: point did you go, oh, this is not looking good.

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Speaker 1: It would have been when he found out that they

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Speaker 1: were dead. I suppose they're going to think I did it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't, wouldn't you? I don't know? Here hoops, thing, horses,

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Speaker 1: everyone but one person.

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Speaker 2: It's a super interesting case.

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Speaker 3: I used to think that about Bane David Bain because

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Speaker 3: I think David Bain did it. But Devil's advocate. I

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Speaker 3: always wonder if you didn't do it and then and

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Speaker 3: then just some cops come and grab you and they're like,

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Speaker 3: you're going to jail for doing this. You're like, I

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Speaker 3: fucking didn't do it and the family is dead. Can

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Speaker 3: you give me a break?

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Speaker 1: Gives a breather? Would you?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's not forget the court has found

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Speaker 2: that he is.

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Speaker 1: They found him not guilty.

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Speaker 2: They didn't find him not guilty, they decide they overturned it,

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Speaker 2: but they said that he wasn't innocent. I think to

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Speaker 2: be clear out that how you've got to be a

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Speaker 2: bit keeper said that I think he is because the court,

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Speaker 2: I don't think has said that necessarily.

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Speaker 1: No, So not guilty doesn't mean innocent, and just mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we couldn't.

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Speaker 1: We can't.

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Speaker 2: He's been released released.

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Speaker 1: I think I know what's happened here. You know what

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Speaker 2: What was always killed and then killed as helf.

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Speaker 1: And then decided that Jerry was the only one who

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Speaker 2: Well, what the question I'd asked for bane. See that's

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Speaker 2: a much easier thing to ask. What's the first question

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Speaker 2: you'd ask? One hundred percent the first question to ask.

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Speaker 2: If I could interview Bank and I would love to.

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Speaker 1: As why what's your favorite concert to put on? After

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Speaker 2: What? It will be? Some coral thing? Why do why

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Speaker 2: do you think your father thought you were the only

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Speaker 2: he said in them? Yea? And does that plague you?

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Speaker 2: And do you think do you hate your father for that?

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Speaker 1: I'm not feeling very full of the yulta. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: packs another that I play. All right, should knocked this

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Speaker 3: They're waving at us now, Yeah, I actually think I know.

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Speaker 2: Different today dressed in quotes. So this is where I

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Speaker 3: The Mashes just gave us a salute.

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Speaker 1: He now knows what one them he is. They're going

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Speaker 1: to turn into that and just hear fifteen minutes of

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Speaker 3: Can I say that, Jerry? I do know the first

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Speaker 3: question your last, Mark Lundy if we get him on,

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Speaker 3: Durrett's cannon cras where we find you today? I reckon

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Speaker 3: you do the same with London.

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Speaker 2: I'd ask Lundy, how's the woodwork? He's making? Woodwork clocks,

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Speaker 2: isn't he's making Nasey Yeah, wooden clocks. He gets into Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he gets into wok. Why do you ask?

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Speaker 1: Yes? In the studio? Where where you find them?

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Speaker 2: There's the confusing parts of mentally, where do we find you?

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Speaker 2: I'm in a good space today. It's a chicking in.

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Speaker 2: It's a men's mental health thing. Yeah, we've got a

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Speaker 2: chicken with each other more often, man, that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: Men and not talking to me and we're not communicating enough.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're quite a powerful. First question for a gift,

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Speaker 1: it's giving up their time to come in and promote

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Just just you know, call it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, it's not weak to speak, man, Just

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Speaker 1: make you're not doing to it? And I really need

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Speaker 1: I don't really do this kind of thing, but I

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Speaker 1: plea for help to Marcus Wheelhouse.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 1: That might be my theme for twenty twenty six. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just asking for help, just to.

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Speaker 2: Cry for help. Your whole life's been a help no

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Speaker 3: As the title of the podcast today, cry for help,

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Speaker 3: all right,