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Speaker 1: If you kids serve ever road, you'll be in some way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form being immersed in the Mardy Cup experience.

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Speaker 1: But for years there's been a question over so called

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Speaker 1: year Fourteen's looks like it's been sort in school Sports.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand CEO Mike summerules with us on this Mike Morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: Where did this come from and how was it justified?

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Speaker 1: For all these years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's been a conversation inside it Bing

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Speaker 2: in particular for many, many years, far before my time.

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Speaker 2: I think it's come down to that idea of what's fair.

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Speaker 2: An extra year of rowing has been defined by a

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Speaker 2: lot of people is not fair in terms of coming

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Speaker 2: back and getting what you need and moving on. And

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Speaker 2: some principles had decided enough was enough and called for

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Speaker 2: a special general meeting. And the outcome of probably a

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Speaker 2: long drawn out process was that most principles and most

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Speaker 2: members of New Zealand Schools Rowing Association principles have decided

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Speaker 2: that they want to all put in place that limits that.

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Speaker 1: And so was that the principles or was it the association.

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Speaker 1: My understanding was there was a great deal of concern

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Speaker 1: about the association.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think that through that meeting some things

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Speaker 2: didn't go very well. I think New our School's Rowing

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Speaker 2: Association would agree with that as well, and some principles

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Speaker 2: did pull out a vote of no confidence against that group,

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Speaker 2: which was unfortunate for probably everybody involved. It's not something

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Speaker 2: that you like to see happen. But the outcome that

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Speaker 2: probably a lot wanted came about. So that group is

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Speaker 2: still there in providing leadership.

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Speaker 1: If it was an open rule, why wasn't it fear

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Speaker 1: then for everyone. You may not like it, but I

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Speaker 1: mean if everyone could do it and they did do it,

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Speaker 1: then what was the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, school Sport in New Zealand is the body that

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Speaker 2: provides governance overall secondary school sport and our eligibility rules

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Speaker 2: under nineteen at the first of January that aligns with

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Speaker 2: the Education Act, which defines educational need. It allows students

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Speaker 2: up to the age of nineteen, including the year that

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Speaker 2: they turn nineteen, to access free education. And our rules

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Speaker 2: have always kind of been that if you're at school,

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Speaker 2: you should be getting the benefits of everything that comes

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Speaker 2: with school. I guess the argument against that is sport

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Speaker 2: isn't actually part of the curriculum. We know it's a

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Speaker 2: really important part of school, but it's not part of

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Speaker 2: the educational curriculum. It's extra curricular and in that eligibility

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Speaker 2: allows you to set rules that allow for a level

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Speaker 2: playing field, and with that extra year of school. In

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Speaker 2: some cases and in some sports, it's been decided that

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Speaker 2: you need to limit those those pages.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Mike, appreciate it. Mike Summerule, it's an

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Speaker 1: issue in netball. You'll follow American college football at a

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Speaker 1: issue in American college football. You got thirty three year

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Speaker 1: olds still doing their painting course at certain universities and

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Speaker 1: still allegedly eligible for more.

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