1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Now fascinating insight into how we're using AI when it 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: comes to our investments. A new survey has found more 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: than one third of key we investors use AI to 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: make investment decisions, and as you might expect, it's more 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: popular with younger people, so people between the ages of 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty nine, sixty four percent of them use 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: AI for their investments. Amir Ganda is the Reporting and 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Assurance leader at Chanted Accountants, New Zealand and with us. Hello, Amir, Kira, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: how are you well? 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: Thank you? 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Is this wise? 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Well? There are multiple sides, so this certainly it's the 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: most interesting thing I think coming out of our Investor 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Confidence survey this year, that so many kiwis are turning 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: to AI in their investment decisions, and many are finding 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: that it's working really well for them. They're finding that 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: it provided information quickly, explanations were clear, and the responses 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: helped them make decisions. But others lack trust. They found 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: that it didn't provide new information or in fact found 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: errors and misinformation. And I guess what it comes back 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: to is making sure that what you are using to 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: make decisions is reliable. And this is a matter of 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: garbage in garbage out. So if you AI works best 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: where you have an audited underlying, independent data set and 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: you're using the AI, understand its limits and within the 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: robust regulatory framework there that's designed to protect investors. 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm guessing that these people are asking something 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more complicated than simply where should I 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: put my money on the interts? 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd think so. And what they're using is other 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: household names chat, GPT, Copilot, deep Seek for example. Those 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: are the top three and AI as opposed to more 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: sophisticated investment specific tools. But AI can help investors to, 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: for example, digest very large amounts of information. And if 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: there's one place that we do tend to create that 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: kind of information, it's in investments and markets, financial information, 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: all sorts of things, and so it's helping them to 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: get across information high identify the key points. But of 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: course the old truisms are as true here as anywhere else. 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: You need to validate what's coming out of it out 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: of these tools before making decisions, go back to the 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: source documentation. And it's why investors in this survey say 43 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: that eighty eight percent of them so they trust audited 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: financial statements and orders. There are still that critical human 45 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: element so that they can rely on the information they're using. 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: But certainly it's providing lots of different useful purposes also 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: so identifying opportunities, and that's how also international institutional investors 48 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: are using AI increasingly. 49 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: I noticed also that about eleven percent of respondents reckon 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: domestic political unrest is the biggest risk to the New 51 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Zealand economy. What do you think that mean by domestic 52 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: political unrest? 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: Well, certainly the highest concern in this year's survey when 54 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: it comes to the New Zealand economy was inflation twenty 55 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: five percent, although that's come back and what has increased 56 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: a lot is twenty up to that's twenty five percent 57 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: of investors saw that as the biggest risk. Twenty three 58 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: percent pointed to the global political landscape, and that's really 59 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: I think the real story in terms of what's making 60 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: investors nervous. That's way up from seventeen percent in the prey. 61 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Of course, when we have trade discussions coming on the 62 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: agenda that haven't been relevant for decades, you've got tariff talk, 63 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: you've got conflicts in parts of the world, and so 64 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: that's why investors in according to this survey, had a 65 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: lot more trust in the New Zealand market and companies 66 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: than they do in overseas markets. The finding that certainly 67 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: the fourth highest was the domestic political landscape, which is 68 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: not necessarily political unrest, but that that really comes back to, 69 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: you know, looking at politics, which is it's pretty much 70 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: always a factor for investors when they're thinking about what 71 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: might be coming up in the economy. 72 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for me, that's fascinating stuff. Amir 73 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Ganda reporting, an assurance leader Chartered Accountants, New Zealand. 74 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 75 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 76 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio