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Speaker 1: It's New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life, Your Way, News,

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Speaker 1: togs Head be.

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Speaker 2: Why are you welcome today? The Price of Oil and

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Speaker 2: how you should be At the bows of Phil Goff

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Speaker 2: and his week, Greg Forand's off, Tom Latham, He's excited

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Speaker 2: in these with us from Dubai. Cameron George tries to

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Speaker 2: talk horse racing, not the Warriors, but I'll change that.

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Speaker 2: Tim and Katie turn up after right. Richard Arnold in America,

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Speaker 2: Murray Olds on storm Watch Husky a morning seven past

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Speaker 2: six World, Well, well what a week for walking away

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Speaker 2: a Phil GoF? Wasn't that voluntary, of course, But what

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Speaker 2: a stupid thing to say given the times in which

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Speaker 2: we live. And as a High commissioner, your job is

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Speaker 2: not to waxle aricle on history. When you're representing your country,

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Speaker 2: thinly veiled or not, we can get a vastly better

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Speaker 2: representative in London. Obviously, Adrian Or had many people breathing

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Speaker 2: a sigh of relief, although to be honest, the real

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Speaker 2: damage has been done. But now Greg Foran. Greg is

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Speaker 2: a nice guy who I've always wondered whether he really

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Speaker 2: settled into the airline and whether more of what the

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Speaker 2: job was about was moving back from Americas to New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and the job just happened to do dubtail with

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Speaker 2: a lifestyle move. If I can be blunt, I don't

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Speaker 2: really believe what was published yesterday by way of a

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Speaker 2: reason it had. The job is done, we are set

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Speaker 2: to go. Viabe about it in New Zealand is far

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Speaker 2: from set to go. It's a mess. Its reputation is

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Speaker 2: deeply damaged. It's part of a wider tourism industry that's

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Speaker 2: far from where it should be. Greg Leaving has an

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Speaker 2: all like I'm over it. Life is short and I'm

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Speaker 2: sick of no engines, old planes, cancelations masquerading as engineering issues,

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Speaker 2: and a general budget airline via being left behind by

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Speaker 2: proper operators like Singapore Guitar and Emirates. A lot of

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Speaker 2: it isn't his or anyone's fault. The engine issue is

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Speaker 2: a scandal beyond their making in control, and the supply

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Speaker 2: of new planes is an issue everywhere for everyone, but

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Speaker 2: they're on board. Referve for example, as late to the party,

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Speaker 2: and to be honest, even when it does arrive as

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Speaker 2: already behind the big hitters. They seem to forget to

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Speaker 2: fly to London. I have a choice. An air New

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Speaker 2: Zealand dollar for dollar is not a flash or obvious choice,

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Speaker 2: so they make up for it with New zealandness, pr

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Speaker 2: airpoints patriotism, but that only goes so far. And we

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Speaker 2: all know a decent chunk of the business is domestic

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Speaker 2: and that to smash revenue wise because the competition is

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Speaker 2: barely perceptible. So no, the airline is not in great shape.

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Speaker 2: It is at best okay, and no, this doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like a job completed in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: And launching their new wine this week is not going

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Speaker 2: to sell another seat. If they flew like they did spin,

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Speaker 2: we'd be getting somewhere. I wish Greg well because I've

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Speaker 2: enjoyed dealing with them. But boy, talk about a week

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Speaker 2: of job tune. Would the last one out get the

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Speaker 2: light switch.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: Right today we find the Let's Save Ukraine campaign and

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Speaker 2: Brussels for another mass love and Ursula has got a plan.

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Speaker 3: Europe faces a clear and present danger and therefore Europe

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Speaker 3: has to be able to protect itself to defend itself,

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Speaker 3: as we have to put Ukraine in a position to

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Speaker 3: protect itself.

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Speaker 2: Saqi is reveling in his newfound how cool am I diplomacy? Rep.

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Speaker 4: Churchill didn't make the choice up, They didn't make the choice,

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Speaker 4: but they're now urging me to make the choice between

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Speaker 4: the US and Europe.

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Speaker 5: Wrong choice.

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Speaker 4: In my view, we preserved the peace preaty years by

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Speaker 4: working with both the US and Europe, and now it's

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Speaker 4: not the time to break that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of Churchill references this week. Have you noticed

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Speaker 2: that Zelenski's liking it a whole lot bitter than he

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Speaker 2: did with other guy in Washington.

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Speaker 1: During all this period and last week you stay with us,

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Speaker 1: and of course from all the Ukrainians, from all our

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Speaker 1: one nations, big appreciation, were very helpful that we are

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Speaker 1: not alone.

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Speaker 2: Then Russians, they are a little bit preturbed about the

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Speaker 2: boots on the ground, but sure because.

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Speaker 6: The deployments of European peacekeepers in Ukraine will mean a direct, official,

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Speaker 6: undisguised involvement in NATO countries. It's in a war against

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Speaker 6: the Russian federations. This cannot be allowed.

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Speaker 2: No, Just to remind everyone, talk is one thing, but

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Speaker 2: bombs or another. They hit Zelenski's hometown overnight.

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Speaker 7: A twenty second warning on our cell phones and miss coming.

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Speaker 7: As we stood up. We started running to the shelter

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Speaker 7: and we've fairly left the table and they took out building.

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Speaker 8: We couldn't get out, so we had to climb.

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Speaker 7: Out through some broken windows.

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Speaker 2: And then with the other war what are given The

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Speaker 2: Arab Gaza plan seems a bust Israel, They're all in

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Speaker 2: on the Riviera idea.

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Speaker 9: Simply repeating the same failed policies will get us no

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Speaker 9: closer to a resolution. So we, from Israel's point of view,

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Speaker 9: very much welcome President Trump's out of the box thinking

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Speaker 9: when it comes to the future of.

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Speaker 2: Gaza, see even then calling it out of the box. Finally,

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Speaker 2: it news that a lot of out let's again I

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Speaker 2: missed today A single cheeto that sort of looked like

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Speaker 2: a Pokemon character has sold at auction. It's been named Cheatahzad,

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Speaker 2: which are to zard sold one hundred and fifty two

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars after bidding started last month at only four

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Speaker 2: hundred a record. Surely, no, no, this is not the

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Speaker 2: most expensive single cheeto sold. Back in twenty seventeen, a

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Speaker 2: Cheetoh resembling Hambe the gorilla. Remember her umber sold Foremos

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars on eBay. And

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Speaker 2: that is news of the world, whether you needed that

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Speaker 2: or not. In ninety by the way, couple of fun

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Speaker 2: facts pun fact, Frida ECB's moved on the cash rate

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Speaker 2: or their cash right key rate two point five percent.

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Speaker 2: Monetary policy was becoming quote meaningfully less restricted. Meantime, another

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Speaker 2: fun fact out of America. If you think America's not

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Speaker 2: in trouble economically, employers cut more jobs in America in

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Speaker 2: February one hundred and seventy twenty seventeen of them a

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent increase on a year ago than they

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Speaker 2: have in any February since two thousand and nine. Twelve

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Speaker 2: past six.

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Speaker 2: Say whatever you want, but you can't say they're not

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Speaker 2: cataclysmic and exciting and engaging and enthralling times. And just

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Speaker 2: to show you how loose that guy running America is

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Speaker 2: at the moment. So yesterday, having put the tariffs on,

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Speaker 2: he then said for Mexico and Canada, the car parts

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Speaker 2: businesses off for a month. We're standing by, allegedly from

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Speaker 2: the back down on the agricultural aspects of it as too,

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Speaker 2: for both countries. But then also, just moments ago he said,

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Speaker 2: the whole Mexico thing, tariffs they're off for a month. Oh,

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Speaker 2: tariffs at all on anything for Mexico. Canada is still

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Speaker 2: in the gun. The agriculture has been moved on. Maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe not, but yesterday we got the cars. Who the

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Speaker 2: hell knows what's going on? Fifteen past six? I know

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Speaker 2: I from going my wealth Andrew Keller A good morning,

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Speaker 2: very good morning, Mike. One of your favorite numbers. This

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Speaker 2: is not consents. This is the stuff we've actually done,

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Speaker 2: hammers swinging, what do we know.

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Speaker 5: Stuff we've actually done.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Mike, at least we're both still here at the

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Speaker 10: end of a week of resignation, so I think we

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Speaker 10: should put ourselves on the back.

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Speaker 2: Of the exactly. That's because we're really good at what

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Speaker 2: we do.

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Speaker 5: Yet hey, now let's talk this.

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Speaker 10: We touched on building consents recently, and building consents are

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Speaker 10: forming a base. So no lift in those consents yet,

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Speaker 10: but they're not getting any worse. The implication from those consents, though,

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Speaker 10: is still a wee wait for residential construction to recover,

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Speaker 10: because you get that lag from consents to actual work.

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Speaker 5: You know that you actual work.

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Speaker 10: That happens, so you'd expect to see consents lift ahead

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Speaker 10: of a residential construction recovery. But then yesterday we get

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Speaker 10: what's called building work put in place from Stats New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: So this looks at what actual work has been done.

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Speaker 5: And the key.

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Speaker 10: Takeaway here this data is for Q four for the

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Speaker 10: last court of last year, is the data shows that

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Speaker 10: building work done was weaker than expected. So building work

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Speaker 10: put in place declined four point four percent in the

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Speaker 10: fourth quarter, so that's quite a material fall. Residential work

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Speaker 10: fell four point nine percent to five point four billion

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Speaker 10: terms of value, and non residential work fell three point

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Speaker 5: So that's all final court of last year.

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Speaker 10: So the implication from this is that there won't be

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Speaker 10: a lot of contribution to Q four growth or GDP

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Speaker 10: from the construction sector. And in seasonally adjusted terms, residential

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Speaker 10: building activity volume reached its lowest level in over four years.

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Speaker 5: So that's in a material number as well.

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Speaker 10: And if you take a slightly wide lens, building activity

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Speaker 10: peaked back in twenty twenty two, it's now declined close

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Speaker 10: to well, it's eighteen percent, let's call it, close to twenty.

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Speaker 5: Percent since then, that's been held up.

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Speaker 10: By non residential construction because it's done better, it's been

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Speaker 10: more resilient. Resident residential construction is probably closer to twenty

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Speaker 5: Well, what we should do here those look forward? It

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Speaker 10: I mean, con sents have stabilized, and that's what you

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Speaker 10: need before they go up. Infest rates are falling. But

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Speaker 10: as we've said, you're really looking probably at this later

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Speaker 10: in twenty twenty five earlier.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, there's a lot of expectation on later

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five is there, but it's not going to

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Speaker 2: get to August September. Something better be happening now. The

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Speaker 2: oil price, I'm looking at that this morning. You're looking

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Speaker 2: at you're looking at three bucks for the ninety eight

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Speaker 5: Three bucks for the ninety eight.

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Speaker 10: Well, and look at this stage it's holding on under

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Speaker 5: So big slump to the oil price.

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Speaker 10: We noted this yesterday good news for cost of living

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Speaker 10: that seventy US dollar level that's proven to be a

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Speaker 10: support level really go back for about three years. Then

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Speaker 10: it fell through it. So what's going on? Look at

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Speaker 10: the big sort of macro level. There's concern that this

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Speaker 10: Trump tariff explosion will slow economic activity and that will

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Speaker 10: cut cut demand for crude. But it's also becoming apparent

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Speaker 10: though that the actual shape of the tariff landscape is

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Speaker 10: shall we call it, a moving palette.

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Speaker 5: But that doesn't really help the.

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Speaker 10: Uncertainty, which you know, as I've said, is the buzzworth

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Speaker 10: and theme of early twenty twenty five. But as is

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Speaker 10: always the case, there's more going on. So the first

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Speaker 10: what You've got one thing to think about here, howard

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Speaker 10: suppliers to the US respond to these tariffs.

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Speaker 5: Now Mexico, for instance, it exports crude all to the US.

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Speaker 10: Its product is now being hit with a twenty five

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Speaker 10: At the same time, over the last few days, a

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Speaker 10: couple of other contributing factors US cruise stocks showed a

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Speaker 10: larger than expected build up of inventory. So crude inventory

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Speaker 10: is row by three point six million barrels to four

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Speaker 10: So US coming under a little bit of pressure. Nobody

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Speaker 2: This You still honestly didn't want to stand in the paddock.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things I don't want to like,

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Speaker 2: Social media, of course, are calling it the worst lineup ever,

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Speaker 2: give yourself a good appercut, and you probably exercised about

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Speaker 2: price of petrol, so you could all do know, Mike, No,

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Speaker 2: it's not the cheapest down the road from me here

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Speaker 1: More shortly setting the agenda and talking the big issues.

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Speaker 2: Dead be Mike. It really is the epitome of the

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Speaker 2: gravy train, isn't it? When these characters who are pretty

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Speaker 2: not a bad point. Let's hope your newsroom Mike gets

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Speaker 2: With Phil goff sacking, I guess that means Chathamhouse rules

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Speaker 2: away from seven, Richard Arnold, I'm going to quiz them

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Speaker 2: the stationary shtly. It means I'm back here until the

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Speaker 2: have a warning, as we always do, in terms of

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Speaker 8: Oh, there's certainly different factors at play, but I think

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Do you see a trend here, something

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Speaker 8: Well, there's volatility, so I think it's going to sort

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Speaker 2: Okay, good while I've got you. There was a report

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's going on and are you gouging?

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Speaker 8: There's certainly no gouging going on. I think there's sometimes

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Speaker 2: And what happens. Who decides how many meetings are held

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Speaker 8: Ultimately, it's the market that plays out. You know, we

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Speaker 2: It was pleasure to have you on the program. You

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Speaker 2: have a good week in Simon Perram, who's the Wontamo

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Speaker 2: Group CEO? Nineteen minutes away from seven? Askuke, why does

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Speaker 2: the news so often morning Mike Goff should have known better.

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Speaker 2: And I take it as true and honest that what

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't needed to have done. This fills a decent bloke.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody likes Phil. I mean I like Phil.

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Speaker 2: career ending mistake.

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Speaker 13: Do you we reckon? It really did ruin Winston's Thursday

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Speaker 13: because he's got to make that awesome joke about Lacks.

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Speaker 2: I got to make though that came after he sort

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Speaker 2: of picked himself up with it. It's ruined my Thursday.

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Speaker 2: But now actually that's yeah, no fair point. Eighteen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full show podcast on iHeartRadio pror it

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Speaker 1: by News Talks EP.

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Speaker 2: Welly, Mike GoF doesn't represent New Zealand. He merely represents

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Speaker 2: the Labour Party. We can't have a partisan party hack

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Speaker 2: who doesn't represent us as a single people of New Zealand. Well,

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Speaker 2: that goes to the arg is a very good point.

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Speaker 2: It goes to the argument of whether you pick an

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Speaker 2: ex polly or you pick a career diplomat. Of course

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Speaker 2: I know, by the way, the Chamber of Commerce in Auckland,

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Speaker 2: although things broadly speaking have been good economically for the

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Speaker 2: government and the economy, this week Auckland business confidence not

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Speaker 2: good forty four percent negative sentiment. It was forty five.

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Speaker 2: So things have improved slightly, and pretty much everywhere you

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Speaker 2: lot consumer confidence, productivity, cash flow, international trade, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 2: it remains pretty much unchanged. So the Auckland business community

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Speaker 2: not full of the joy and love that we should

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Speaker 2: normally feel. On a Friday morning, six forty five.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Straight side morning, Hey it, Mike, I'll give you one

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Speaker 2: hundred bucks if you can tell me exactly what's going

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Speaker 2: on with the tariffs right here, right now.

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Speaker 12: Volatility, that's the word you were just using, right I

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Speaker 12: would call it economic whiplash when it comes to the

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Speaker 12: tariff wars. Trump has back down in the last few

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Speaker 12: hours on several fronts, and looking at Wall Street with

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Speaker 12: up a little bit about an hour ago now year

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Speaker 12: off five hundred and sixteen points. So they're not too happy,

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Speaker 12: are they. The Trump team has just announced a one

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Speaker 12: month delay on most products from Mexico. The tariff on

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Speaker 12: those products the same as expected on the Canadian side

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Speaker 12: pretty soon. This after American car makers got into Trump's

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Speaker 12: year and ward. These cross border tariffs could devastate the

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Speaker 12: car industry here. We've spoken about this before. So there

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Speaker 12: is also now a one month's delay on TARRA, specifically

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Speaker 12: affecting the car makers. All this has Trump's deputy jd Events,

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Speaker 12: kind of scrambling to keep up with what the hell's

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Speaker 12: going on.

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Speaker 10: The way to avoid application of the tariffs is to

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Speaker 10: have your factory and have your facility in the United

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Speaker 10: States of America, So.

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Speaker 12: He wouldn't get your hundred bucks? Would he build a

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Speaker 12: series of new cop plants by next week? What we

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Speaker 12: saw the effects of some of this on Wall Street.

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Speaker 12: As I say, it's not only cars, it's prices on

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Speaker 12: food and every day goods that are in the target zone.

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Speaker 12: With this, former AG Secretary Dan Glickman is saying this.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's too early to tell what we end up with,

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Speaker 9: but if it starts impacting food prices and farm income,

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Speaker 9: then I think the political damage will be significant.

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Speaker 12: Meantime, they have announced they're cutting some eighty thousand jobs

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Speaker 12: from the Veterans Affairs Department. These are the folks who

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Speaker 12: help look after military vets with hospitals and other aspects.

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Speaker 12: They say they're also moving to shut down the Education Department,

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Speaker 12: now being run by Linda McMahon. I'm a wrestling promoter, obviously. Meantime,

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Speaker 12: some veterans fired from federal government jobs already include many

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Speaker 12: who voted for Trump, and some say they are feeling betrayed.

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Speaker 12: Like Nathan Hooven, who is a disabled Air Force veteran.

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Speaker 12: He says the Elon Musk chainsaw team has cost him

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Speaker 12: his job. He says he voted for Trump, it now

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Speaker 12: feels the Trump cutbacks are destroying his life and when

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Speaker 12: it comes to the Department of Veterans Affairs, well that workforce,

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Speaker 12: which is set to face the Trump Musk. Sackings as

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Speaker 12: a workforce were about one quarter of the staff. One

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Speaker 12: quarter of those of the VA are military veterans.

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Speaker 2: I having seen the documentary, I find it hard to

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Speaker 2: believe we're talking about fire part two Houses possible.

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Speaker 12: Well, it was one of the biggest scams. Ever, as

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Speaker 12: you say, documentaries emerged from it. April twenty seventeen, the Firefes,

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Speaker 12: promoted as the greatest outdoor music event in history, turned

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Speaker 12: into just a complete well massive photo would be the

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Speaker 12: same way to put it, wouldn't. The top musicians were

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Speaker 12: supposed to appear, they never turned up. Folks who paid

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Speaker 12: megabucks one up staying in across tense at one there.

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Speaker 1: Was no showers, there's no bathrooms, there's no like running water.

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Speaker 2: Aah, who needs that stuff?

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Speaker 12: People will promised luxury conditions and gourmet food. They wound

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Speaker 12: up eating cheese sandwiches rushed in on a virgin chief

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Speaker 12: basis so they didn't starves. There's another I am stranded

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Speaker 12: in the Bahamas amidst hundreds of other extremely unlucky festival goers.

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Speaker 12: Then the promoter, Billiy McFarlan serve four years in prison.

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Speaker 12: For his role in all of this. Now, though he

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Speaker 12: is out, he is a freeman and says, let's do

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Speaker 12: it again. He's announced Firefast two.

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Speaker 13: I figured it would be best to hear directly from me.

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Speaker 13: What's yea happening? First fire to is real this.

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Speaker 12: Time, he says, it's going to be awesome with the

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Speaker 12: top of the line facilities.

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Speaker 5: Those yachts and hotels.

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Speaker 12: There are already offering tickets. However, the tourist chief for

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Speaker 12: the small Mexican island of Maheris, where Billy says all

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Speaker 12: this is going to go down, says it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 12: Tourist chief Edgar Gaska says he has no knowledge of

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Speaker 12: any such event. No one who's saw permision for this,

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Speaker 12: they know nothing. Billy says he has the backing of

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Speaker 12: some a less music stars. He just cannot say right

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Speaker 12: now who they are. However, cheese sandwiches will be on

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Speaker 12: the menu. Billy says it's going to play out from

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Speaker 12: May the thirtieth to June the second. Tickets starting at

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Speaker 12: fourteen hundred bucks US already on sale, but prestige text

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Speaker 12: mic going for one million dollars if you want to

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Speaker 12: put down for a couple.

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Speaker 2: How we can mate. The world really is mad at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Richard Arnold states, So, by the way, there

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Speaker 2: are plenty of people with money, because the number of multimillionaires,

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Speaker 2: it's reported this morning all over the world jumped four

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Speaker 2: point four percent last year. The share of wealthy Americans.

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Speaker 2: This is tim but you're going to have ten million dollars,

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Speaker 2: sell everything up, put it all in a big pile.

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Speaker 2: If you got ten million dollars, you're ultra wealthy. That

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Speaker 2: grew by five point two percent. So the Americans are

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Speaker 2: getting more wealthy than the rest of the world. There

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Speaker 2: are two There are two million, three hundred and forty one,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy eight ultra wealthy people in the

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Speaker 2: world now, of which forty percent of them and are American.

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Speaker 2: Get away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estates.

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Speaker 2: Just developing Intuitive Lander, which is the private company that

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Speaker 2: went up on Elon's Sorry, Intuitive Machines went up on

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Speaker 2: the land is crashed. We think it's on the moon,

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Speaker 2: but we haven't heard from it, so we're assuming things

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Speaker 2: aren't going well. The share price is tanking. Went up

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Speaker 2: on Elon's rocket earlier on this week, so far more

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Speaker 2: important than that, though that's happening on the moon as

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Speaker 2: we speak. Far more important than that. Reports now that

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Speaker 2: Trump officials are going to travel to Saudi Arabia next

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Speaker 2: week to meet with Ukraine. It won't be President to

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Speaker 2: President of the stage obviously, but Rubio's from the States

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Speaker 2: and probably the Zelenski aid Yumak who were speaking yesterday

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Speaker 2: will travel. They leave Tuesday, we'll meet Wednesday. So that's material.

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Speaker 2: So that's exciting. Ireland's economy. If you want some economic news,

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Speaker 2: Island's economy, and this is important because we are a

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Speaker 2: small island nation like they are, with five million people.

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Speaker 2: Their economy grew two point seven percent last year's small

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Speaker 2: clue ours didn't. But we got some numbers yesterday from

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Speaker 2: the monthly accounts. The deficit one point two billions smaller

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Speaker 2: than forecast in December. Core Crown tax revenue for the

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Speaker 2: seven months of the fiscal year to the end of

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Speaker 2: jan seventy point two billion, six hundred million higher than forecast,

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Speaker 2: higher than expected GST, so that's encouraging. Overall revenue was

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Speaker 2: also up, expenses were down. Obergual deficit five billion, one

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Speaker 2: point two lower than expected, so that's significant, an improvement

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Speaker 2: of twenty percent on the last forecast. Debt levels only

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Speaker 2: slightly improve their net core crown debt at one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty billion sixty six million better than forecasts. So

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Speaker 2: that's that's But you know, on a month my month basis,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it all will need to smooth out because

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Speaker 2: you know what months a month, month by months are.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you know, look for good news. We'll

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Speaker 2: take that five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 14: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the bizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Disney at the moment, isn't it so exciting? Moyob. They've

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Speaker 2: got a sort of picture on medium business this morning,

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Speaker 2: five hundred business leaders decision makers. What do we got

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Speaker 2: encouraging start the year? Jan feb They ky sixty percent

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Speaker 2: said their revenue had increased on this time last year.

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Speaker 2: Sixty percent say they've got more work lined up over

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Speaker 2: the next six months than usual, more activity in sales.

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Speaker 2: A lot of that's because of international exports. Just over

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Speaker 2: two thirds currently export their goods and services. Average value

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Speaker 2: shipped overseas from these businesses is eighteen point one million

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Speaker 2: dollars majority of that's in manufacturing, ag forestry, fishing, and wholesale.

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent say they're confident the local economy is going

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Speaker 2: to improve this year. Also, the little bit worried about

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Speaker 2: how to unlock more productivity. Aren't we all? If you

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Speaker 2: want growth? Here is what they say. Thirty seven percent

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Speaker 2: think they need to increase staff training and upskilled. Thirty

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Speaker 2: six percent want more automation. Thirty three percent say we

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Speaker 2: should implement new software that's AI. Thirty three percent say

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Speaker 2: we should continue to reduce compliance requirements that's the paperwork.

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Speaker 2: Thirty two percent say we need better access to specialized

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Speaker 2: skilled workers. It will help. It's turned up to school,

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Speaker 2: of course. Seventy one percent say they also want more

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Speaker 2: free trade agreements. Well, whistle Dixie on that it ain't happening, mate.

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Speaker 2: We got all the free trade going that we have

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Speaker 2: at the moment. We really should be more exercised about

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Speaker 2: these tariffs than we have been so far. I've not

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Speaker 2: seeing the sort of anger that we should.

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Speaker 12: We are.

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Speaker 2: Never forget the inventors of free trade. We revolutionized free trade.

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Speaker 2: Roger Douglas, God bless them, in the early eighties told

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Speaker 2: the farmers that these subsidies were not for the future.

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Speaker 2: Everyone gnashed their teeth like they nashed their teeth these

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Speaker 2: days over free credits and kids not going to school.

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Speaker 2: But we got there and we revolutionized free trade, and

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Speaker 2: we are the best in the world at the stuff.

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Speaker 2: And you sell your stuff on the idea that you

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Speaker 2: produce the best there is. You trade on quality, and

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Speaker 2: that is a trade and skill not to be lost.

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Speaker 2: But we sed to forget all that these days. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Phil Goff will need to deal with that. Greg Forwan's

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Speaker 2: going and Tom Latham he's going to talk about the cricket,

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Speaker 2: and Cameron George is He's behind this big horse race

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Speaker 2: this weekend. But surely I need to ask about the warriors,

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Speaker 2: don't I.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show, Kiwi's trust to stay in the know,

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Speaker 1: the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the buyers.

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Speaker 1: Others can't use togs D B seven.

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Speaker 2: Let me just start with this. Am I joining too

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Speaker 2: many dots? A question for you this Friday morning? Am

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Speaker 2: I joining too many dots? As I wonder? Allow with

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Speaker 2: that the government having had by any measure, a very

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Speaker 2: very good week, whether they namely the Prime Minister, has

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Speaker 2: at last got the message that some action as opposed

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Speaker 2: to yak might be what the punter actually wants a

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Speaker 2: little bit. More of several solid health changes this week,

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Speaker 2: more doctors already here to be parked at GPS, more

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Speaker 2: nurses scripts via tech when we want them. I mean

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Speaker 2: the idea that getting a script on the net, it'll

652
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Speaker 2: how that suits you really shouldn't be a thing. But

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Speaker 2: they don't show you how backward we've become are. They're

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Speaker 2: all practical, sensible and politically beneficial of it. I thought

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Speaker 2: the exam concerns from the principles that wanted less hard

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Speaker 2: work and more free credits dismissed quite rightly as the

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Speaker 2: Minister hammers home the concept of hard work and not

658
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Speaker 2: giving up the big one. Of course, all gone are

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Speaker 2: sacking without a sacking, and a result the government wanted

660
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Speaker 2: and needed GoF gone? Was it thinly veiled? Maybe stupid comment,

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Speaker 2: of course. And a commissioner's job is to represent the government,

662
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Speaker 2: never more so than when you're dealing with a new,

663
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Speaker 2: unpredictable America and walking a very tight rope and the

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Speaker 2: Pacific between China and the US, and a couple of

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Speaker 2: minor ones. One the Prime Minister's marmite Sandwich line on

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Speaker 2: the show and nod to middle New Zealand who are

667
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Speaker 2: fed up with elite owners and elite media and their

668
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Speaker 2: pile on over an issue that in a convulsing world

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Speaker 2: really now is embarrassing. And two, more importantly, health again

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Speaker 2: with bal cancer announced yesterday, screening age extended down to

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Speaker 2: fifty eight from sixty. The money comes from the segregated

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Speaker 2: Maori Bowe's screening program message this is one country with

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Speaker 2: one rule for everyone. Bell cans is not a race issue,

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Speaker 2: It's a health issue. So by the time you put

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Speaker 2: all that together on a Friday morning, you've collected up

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Speaker 2: a fairly substantial five to seven days and the vast

677
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Speaker 2: majority of it is one positive, two on the right

678
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Speaker 2: side of the voter, and three gives the very clear

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Speaker 2: indication that a week's worth of actual doing is vastly

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Speaker 2: more appealing and productive than a week worth of announcing

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Speaker 2: or defending or scrap or time wasting. Keep it up

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Speaker 2: and the polls will show it's what the majority of

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Speaker 2: people actually voted for. Pasking O the matters nine minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven in a week where a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: as I've just outlined and decided to walk or some

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Speaker 2: got push and we've yet to find out whether the

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Speaker 2: chair of Wellington Water adds to that particular pile. We

688
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Speaker 2: saw on that mix. The resignation, of course yesterday of

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Speaker 2: Greg Foran, the in New Zealand CEO here I Feb

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty landed just about the same time as COVID

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Speaker 2: did Forsyth head of researcher, and the bully is well,

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Speaker 2: it's Andy, very very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Morning Mike pure metrics.

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Speaker 2: How does he rate?

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Speaker 15: It's Look, it's really difficult to judge an airline CEO

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Speaker 15: on any kind of metric on the basis that there's

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Speaker 15: a huge amount of external influences that impact them, and

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Speaker 15: you've seen that through Creig's tenure that he's he's had

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Speaker 15: kind of four major impacts of various factors, be it

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Speaker 15: COVID as you just mentioned, being an enzed recession, the

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Speaker 15: engine maintenance issues that continue to dictate the airline performance,

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Speaker 15: and the biggest kind of period of inflation that we've

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Speaker 15: had in the generation. So you kind of add all

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Speaker 15: those up together, it's been a pretty challenging period for him.

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Speaker 2: Did the lack of aviation experience hurt him? Do you

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Speaker 2: think as we look back, probably.

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Speaker 15: I think that's a fair assessment. You know, particularly when

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Speaker 15: he stepped into the airline on day one when they

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Speaker 15: were counseling flights to Shanghai and trying to pick up

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Speaker 15: the reins of the business that he was getting accustomed

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Speaker 15: to in an industry that he hadn't worked in before.

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Speaker 15: Probably did have an impact, but he picked it up

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Speaker 15: pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: My assessment, I like him just for the record, for

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Speaker 2: what it matters. I found him an engaging kind of

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Speaker 2: guy who was interested in, you know, talking about the

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Speaker 2: airline and selling the airlines. So I mean, it's not

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Speaker 2: a personal thing. But this thing that was announced yesterday

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Speaker 2: where the airlines in good shape and set to go,

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Speaker 2: I don't buy because from the punter's point of view,

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Speaker 2: it's not true, is it.

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Speaker 15: I think that's a fair assessment. I've got some sympathy

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Speaker 15: with the line being used by the airline, though in

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Speaker 15: the context you know, this is external factor is impacting

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Speaker 15: them quite substantially given the engine maintenance issues they're facing

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Speaker 15: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: That is no one's fault, is it. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: fact they can't get an engine and the engines don't

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Speaker 2: work I mean, what do you do.

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Speaker 15: It's probably is somebody's fault in the context of the

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Speaker 15: engine manufacturers. But yes, it's not the fauld of the

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Speaker 15: airline necessarily, and there's a not a lot they can

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Speaker 15: do given the supply chain issues they've had, given the

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Speaker 15: delays in the maintenance schedules that the manufacturers have now

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Speaker 15: provided them, which keeps them pretty handstraw in terms of

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Speaker 15: their ability to fly the capacity that they want to.

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Speaker 2: Does the image problem they've got one? From your point

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Speaker 2: of view, is it real? I get in under there's

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Speaker 2: just an edge about New Zealanders that they are just

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Speaker 2: so willing to hate air New Zealand.

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Speaker 15: I think you were going to suggest that you get

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Speaker 15: a fair bit of feedback. I get a fair better

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Speaker 15: feed back as well. I think there's some work to do,

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Speaker 15: you know, particularly in this post covid era, to rebuild

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Speaker 15: the image to the extent that it has enjoyed historically.

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Speaker 2: Who do they need? Do they do it internally? Do

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Speaker 2: they do it externally? Is it global? Does anyone want

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Speaker 2: the job? Can they turn it round?

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Speaker 14: So?

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Speaker 15: I reckon it's one of the most primo jobs in

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Speaker 15: New Zealand corporate life. They've had a good history of

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Speaker 15: attracting very talented individuals internationally, typically Kiwis that have learned

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Speaker 15: their trades offshore, and I suspect there'll be a reasonably

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Speaker 15: good list of potential candidates for that job.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Andy, you have a very good week and

756
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Speaker 2: appreciate time. Andy Bowley, who's Forsyight Bar, a head of research.

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Speaker 2: We're off to Dubai because the cricket's on in Dubai

758
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Speaker 2: at the weekend and it's a final and we're part

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Speaker 2: of it. So Tom Lake them shortly thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Like asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 16: That'd be.

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Speaker 2: Wanting Mike. I once flew to Meldourn to get a

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Speaker 2: hamburger and back in the same day just to keep

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Speaker 2: my elite status within the New Zealand. The only reason

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Speaker 2: I've now switched to anyone but here in New Zealand

767
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Speaker 2: is the food, the service and the general experience declined

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Speaker 2: so badly that I now pay anybody else. Used to

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Speaker 2: be about loyalty, but they lost that. Mike cam Wallace

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Speaker 2: will be the CEO of in New Zealand. Apparently he

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Speaker 2: hates Quantus. There's a bit of client in Morning Gossip.

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Speaker 2: Fore you Cam Wallace if you don't know the name,

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Speaker 2: he was one of the senior management who left. He

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Speaker 2: went to were they called whatever they'll call at the time,

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Speaker 2: the TV network across the media works or however it was,

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Speaker 2: and then he couldn't sell it. So he went to

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Speaker 2: Quantus and he's in charge of something there now and

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Speaker 2: maybe he likes it, maybe he doesn't. I don't know, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I love he in New Zealand. I found them very

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Speaker 2: good and always use them. I'm not supporting the Aussie brand.

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Speaker 2: Graham there ago while since I've got a text like

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Speaker 2: that sixteen minutes past. It not to be unfair. As

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Speaker 2: I've said many many times on this program, I love

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Speaker 2: you in New Zealand. I want to love you in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. I try to love you in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I think I do love a New Zealand. But fill

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Speaker 2: in the rest now. Black Caps Good Weekend lined up

788
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Speaker 2: India on Sunday night in Dubai Champions Trophy and Tom

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Speaker 2: Lathilm's with us very good morning, good morning. Here he

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Speaker 2: goes down very well, indeed, given what's unfolded over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of days.

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Speaker 7: How do you feel, Yeah, I'll see, Yeah, I'll see

793
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Speaker 7: over the moon. I think the performance that we put

794
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Speaker 7: out yesterday was, yeah, i'll see pretty much exactly what

795
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Speaker 7: we wanted. And yeah, the way the guys that set

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Speaker 7: it up with the first innings was probably couldn't have

797
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Speaker 7: ask through anything more. And then when you were certainly

798
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Speaker 7: going to be tough with the ball, but yeah, we

799
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Speaker 7: managed to keep taking wickets when we needed to. And yeah, boys,

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Speaker 7: boys played fantastically well.

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Speaker 2: Going in, take us through the whole tournament, going in

802
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Speaker 2: what you got versus what you thought you'd get. How

803
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Speaker 2: did that unfold?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think conditions We've going to take a little

805
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Speaker 7: bit of knowledge from the times we've been here in

806
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Speaker 7: the past, and there was no sort of tends to

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Speaker 7: get easier betting underline, and then they can and they

808
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Speaker 7: can skid on. But yeah, I think the way that

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Speaker 7: we've played, we've just tried to play our blueprint as

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Speaker 7: best we can and and we've managed to play that

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Speaker 7: pretty well. And I guess you look at having a

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Speaker 7: try series beforehand, probably it was the perfect preparation leading

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Speaker 7: leading into it. So yeah, obviously moved from a different

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Speaker 7: venue here and do buy for the final and started.

815
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Speaker 7: We've got some knowledge around how the wicket will potentially play,

816
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Speaker 7: and happily we can and yeah, I adapt to that

817
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Speaker 7: wicket and hope to put out another good performance.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One of the cricket tragics around here was talking about

820
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Speaker 2: the block in Dubai and all that sort of stuff.

821
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Speaker 2: How much of it's in your head and if you

822
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Speaker 2: really want to win, you can win versus what's on

823
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Speaker 2: the ground.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they've had a lot of cricket here over the

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Speaker 7: last couple of months, so the wickets that tend to

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Speaker 7: be used services, so they can be a little bit

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Speaker 7: lower and slower and turn a little bit more. But

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Speaker 7: you know, we're in the national cricket as we play

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Speaker 7: all around the world and we're expected to adapt to

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Speaker 7: I guess whatever surface that we're provided with, and I

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Speaker 7: guess in a couple of day time, it's going to

832
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Speaker 7: give us another challenge, to another chance to do that

833
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Speaker 7: and hopefully we can adapt as bricks can and as

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Speaker 7: I said, put that putting that perfect performance out.

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Speaker 2: I know you've just arrived this time, right, But I

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Speaker 2: mean Tobaia's place, do they love the cricket? Is there

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Speaker 2: a vibe about it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was pretty it was pretty packed ground when

839
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Speaker 7: we when we played here last time, there was pretty

840
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Speaker 7: dominant Indian supporters. But yeah, they're certainly arriving, they certainly

841
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 7: love their cricket and I'm sure they'll be looking forward

842
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Speaker 7: to get in there and hopefully we can. We've never

843
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Speaker 7: been a bit of support on Sunday, I think it is.

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Speaker 2: Is there any reason you can't win?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 7: I think we we've got every chance of of if

847
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Speaker 7: we put out a good performance. You know, we know

848
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Speaker 7: we're a chance of be this quality Indian side. We've

849
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Speaker 7: done it before, whether it be at home or whether

850
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Speaker 7: it be away, and we know we've got the talent

851
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Speaker 7: and I guess the experience in the group that hopefully

852
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Speaker 7: we can lean back on some of the experiences that

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Speaker 7: we've had in ICC events and the guys have been

854
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 7: playing some fantastic cricket, which you know, confidence as a

855
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 7: wonderful thing, and hopefully the guys can just take that

856
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 7: confidence into into the next game and hopefully hopefully come

857
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Speaker 7: away with some silver.

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Speaker 2: More importantly, Tom, is anyone going to hire a Lamborghini

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Speaker 2: and drive through the desert or ride a camel?

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Speaker 7: I'm not too sure, hopefully, hopefully those things are getting

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Speaker 7: sorted out, and if we get to we get to

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Speaker 7: that point, then we'll wait and see.

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Speaker 2: All right, good luck to you and we'll be watching

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. Tom Latham with us out of Dubai

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Speaker 2: this morning. You need to mark the week in the

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Speaker 2: moment seven.

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Speaker 1: call it My News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Seppy Shine BAM's been speaking the head of Mexico, of course,

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Speaker 2: and she's been on the phone too Trump. If you've

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Speaker 2: missed all of this, and Trump's suspended the tariffs, the

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Speaker 2: whole the tariff's all the tariffs for a month. She's

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Speaker 2: just given a speech saying there's new respect for Mexico

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Speaker 2: because I've been on the phone to Trump. She's giving

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Speaker 2: that vibe. At the moment, we're still standing by allegedly

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Speaker 2: for maybe maybe not them to do something similar with Canada.

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Speaker 2: Mike easy fix for Air New Zealand. Chris Luxon has

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Speaker 2: had previous experience as the CEO, so he reapplies. David

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Speaker 2: Seymour steps in his PM. It's a win win for all.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad. Actually, I don't think anyone beats Rob five,

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Speaker 2: do they. I mean, I'm an unabashed Rob five fan

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand was at its at its peak. It

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Speaker 2: was peak a New Zealand when Rob Fife was running

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Speaker 2: the place. As far as I can work out, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is at different times, price of oil round around

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Speaker 2: the world, they go all that sort of stuff. But

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Speaker 2: it seemed to be the heady days when Rob Fife

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Speaker 2: was running it. Time out to make the week seventey

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Speaker 2: three by the way, time now to make the week

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Speaker 2: little piece of news and current events that's as popular

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Speaker 2: as a marmite sandwich was in the days before school

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Speaker 2: lunch got nuts in Zed seven. Now I should have paused,

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Speaker 2: Matt that was singing the airlines in Zied seven. It's

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Speaker 2: not a flight Michael in Zied seven. All boarding for

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Speaker 2: in Zied seven. In z seven right, quite a bit

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Speaker 2: of good news this week from the government accounts which

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Speaker 2: are better than we thought. And I outlined those earlier

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Speaker 2: house prices which are up, red meat exports absolutely booming.

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Speaker 2: All good news. Welcome Ryan Peak seven redemption story to

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Speaker 2: inspire at the Golf Open if you missed it, A

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Speaker 2: Keystarmer eight.

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Speaker 4: I do not accept that the US is an unreliable

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Speaker 4: ally now before.

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Speaker 2: The Zelenski mountdown. This time last week, In fact, it

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Speaker 2: was on Friday morning Keiostarmer was displaying in Washington a

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Speaker 2: masterclass in diplomacy and high wire walking. In act, he

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Speaker 2: has successfully carried on with back in Britain all week,

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Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, School lunch is two.

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Speaker 2: In a world of seismic movement of global upheaval, Good

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Speaker 2: old New Zealand still had plenty of time for that crap.

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Speaker 2: Health seven a very good week of announcement. It's more doctors,

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Speaker 2: more nurses, more access to GPS and scripts using tech.

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought, hey, Gaza Riviera two point zero

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Speaker 2: four one. The Americans have rejected it until it avoids

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Speaker 2: the role of her mass, which leaves Trump's plan. And

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Speaker 2: you wonder why other places the way it is Trump sex.

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Speaker 5: You don't have the cards right now.

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Speaker 2: From his point of view, a good week. He had

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Speaker 2: Ukraine by the Uno Watts, He had a couple of

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Speaker 2: hours of Trump love and the Congress, and he messed

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Speaker 2: with everybody with tariffs. Tariff's too about is idiotic as

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Speaker 2: economic policy gets. Buffett calls them an act of war.

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Speaker 2: Buffett has a track record of knowing what he's actually

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Speaker 2: talking about. The Warriors won. What a waste of a game,

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Speaker 2: of a pre season, of a launch of a flight

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Speaker 2: of my time Richard Prebble eight Hero of the week

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Speaker 2: quitting on principle and the reality is it's a runaway

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Speaker 2: train that the government actually needs to do something about.

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Speaker 2: Adrian or seven. That's a statement because he's put us

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Speaker 2: out about misery. Takes quite a skill to get that

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Speaker 2: disliked by so many people. And that is the week

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Speaker 2: Companies on the website, and we received, by the way,

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Speaker 2: this week our updated five star health rating from the

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Primary Industry showing for yet another year marking

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Speaker 2: the week is the complete balanced diet. Pasky might there

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Speaker 2: are some good indicators for Air New Zealand. Rolls Royce

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Speaker 2: last week announced that the testing of the new engine

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Speaker 2: maintenance parts would increase time on wing from forty percent

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Speaker 2: to eighty percent and be completely rolled out by the

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Speaker 2: end of next year. Well that's exciting news, John, thank

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Speaker 2: you for that. Here's another foreign fan mic in the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand fan good on you come on in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's amazing. It's a great airline. I always use Air

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Speaker 2: New Zealand quantits, for example, as terrible old planes with

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Speaker 2: terrible old seat sea. That's true. But just because you

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Speaker 2: can find somebody worse. My whole adage in life is

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Speaker 2: just because you get there was a Grant Robertson trick.

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Speaker 2: Just because you can point to Ethiopia and Congo as

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Speaker 2: being worse economically than we are doesn't make our scenario

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Speaker 2: any better.

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Speaker 13: Is Ethiopia worse?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a very good question, Glenn, But I mean

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Speaker 2: when you can as a look take my point. If

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Speaker 2: you want to go somewhere tomorrow, if you want to

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Speaker 2: fly to London to see you for the British summer,

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Speaker 2: would you fly in New Zealand? Would you fly Singapore?

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Speaker 2: Would you fly Guitar? Would you fly Emirates? And for

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Speaker 2: the money do the math to do the money? So

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Speaker 2: lockwood Smith on how to behave internationally without making a

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Speaker 2: complete proate of yourself some lessons therefore you directly after

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Speaker 2: the news and then Tim and Katy will do the

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Speaker 2: week for you on the Mike Hosking Breakfast Here at

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Speaker 2: news Talk said.

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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way, News, togs d B.

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Speaker 2: I read three things. I've read more than three things yesterday,

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Speaker 2: but three things that really caught my attention, two of

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Speaker 2: which uplifted me, one of which enraged me. So more

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Speaker 2: on that shortly, Tim and Katy after eight twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes away from eight now among the job corners this

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Speaker 2: week as our former High Commissioner to London, phill goth

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Speaker 2: who went along to A Q and A A little

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Speaker 2: bit cute for our UK High Commissioners. Lockwood Smith is

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Speaker 2: with this, lockwid very good morning to you.

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Speaker 17: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel sorry for philm.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, of course I feel sorry for him, But I

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Speaker 17: think you know, Winston Peter's horrible, Winston honorable, Winston Peter's

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Speaker 17: had no choice after what had happened.

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Speaker 2: Could you, in isolation if you saw that question just

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Speaker 2: as a piece of video, gone immediately? No, that's not right.

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Speaker 2: That's across the line, and obviously so or is Helen

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Speaker 2: Clark right? It's a line call.

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Speaker 17: Well, there are a couple of things. Mike is, the

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Speaker 17: High Commissioner of the United Kingdom is really the voice

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Speaker 17: of the government and the government's position in relation to

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Speaker 17: the United States is critically important, and so the High

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Speaker 17: Commission has to be very careful in representing the government.

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Speaker 17: And the second thing is that the High Commissioner of

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Speaker 17: the United Kingdom shouldn't really be commenting on matters taking

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Speaker 17: place in the United States, and so diplomat a boundaries

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Speaker 17: are really important in the role. And interestingly, I think

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Speaker 17: because I've been speaking for four years before I went

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Speaker 17: over there, I had no difficulty then moving away from

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Speaker 17: political thinking if you.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's a very good point. What sort of writing

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Speaker 2: instructions when you get the job, despitely, I mean Phil's

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Speaker 2: experienced your experience, what sort of writing instructions do you

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Speaker 2: get around the specifics of what's on, what's not, and

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Speaker 2: how to watch yourself and conduct yourself.

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Speaker 17: Well, actually, you know, even though I did a three

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Speaker 17: weeks sort of program in Wellington prior to my appointment,

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Speaker 17: they didn't really say you can't do this, you can't

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Speaker 17: do that, You can't because they expect you to be

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Speaker 17: sensible in the role. And I think where you know

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Speaker 17: Phil Goff may have heard a little is normally a

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Speaker 17: Chatham House There Chatham House rules apply and normally any

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Speaker 17: comments are not attributable to whoever might have made them.

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Speaker 17: But I think where Phil made a mistake was that

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Speaker 17: something as potentially inflammatory as that was always going to

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Speaker 17: sort of leak out type of thing.

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Speaker 14: Doesn't why it was a better mind.

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Speaker 2: Sure does it go to whether we should have Korea

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Speaker 2: politicians or career diplomats and which is better or not

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Speaker 2: in these high profile jobs. Particularly it was in question Mike.

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Speaker 17: When I was in the UK as High Commissioner, my

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Speaker 17: wife was voted UK New Zealand of the Year. The

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Speaker 17: UK government appreciated my work so much they asked Boris

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Speaker 17: asked me to stay involved after I left the UK,

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Speaker 17: and I've served advising them on trade policy, agriculture policy.

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Speaker 17: I helped get the New Zealand Free Trade Agreement in place,

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Speaker 17: I helped get the UK into CPTPP. And the benefit

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Speaker 17: why I was able to do that is those senior

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Speaker 17: politicians over there respected my knowledge as a former Minister

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Speaker 17: International Trader, former Minister of Agriculture, and so the fact

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Speaker 17: that I'd had those experiences was actually hugely beneficial to

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Speaker 17: New Zealand and hasn't been since.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. It seemed like a weird gathering. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you've seen the video, but it seemed like a

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Speaker 2: you know, sort of half a dozen randoms in a room.

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Speaker 2: Do you do that as a lot as a high commissioner.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was all, you know, cocktails.

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Speaker 17: No, I didn't do that sort of thing much at all,

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Speaker 17: to be honest. I did a lot of serious work

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Speaker 17: around the Commonwealth. Served on a committee helping members of

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Speaker 17: the Commonwealth that had got into trouble. I did a

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Speaker 17: lot of work talking at conferences around the UK, giving

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Speaker 17: addresses on trade and agriculture policy. So I was more

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Speaker 17: heavily involved. I didn't do the diplomatic circuit, if you like,

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Speaker 17: much at all. I didn't go to the cocktail parties

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Speaker 17: much at all. I was so focused on trying to,

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Speaker 17: I guess, influence the way the UK was thinking about

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Speaker 17: agriculture policy and post Brexit. Of course, you know, they

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Speaker 17: were very keen to keeping involved.

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Speaker 2: It does say something about, really, and you saw it

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Speaker 2: in Winston Peter space yesterday. It does say something about

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Speaker 2: the tremendous sensitivity that a small country like us, the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the world has got to be cognizant of

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Speaker 2: at a time of extraordinary tumult. I mean, these really

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Speaker 2: are interesting times, aren't they?

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Speaker 8: All?

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Speaker 17: Fair comment and our relationship with the United States is

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Speaker 17: just too important for a loose comment to cause problems,

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Speaker 17: you know, And I think, you know, if if Philgoff's

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Speaker 17: comments have been criticized by the Foreign Minister, I don't

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Speaker 17: think that would have been enough. I think, you know,

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Speaker 17: I've got to give the right of Winston Peter's credit.

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Speaker 17: He moved decisively and that should help minimize any damage.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. So Lockwood, nice to talk to you, have

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Speaker 2: a very good week. Ind to Lockwio Smith, the former

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Speaker 2: High Commissioner of course and former Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 2: eighteen minutes away from eight Husky Pill wanted to make Luxon.

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Speaker 2: They went to Luxelon yesterday and they made as usual,

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Speaker 2: the media made far too much of this, and Luxon

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Speaker 2: made a very good point. I thought, so Peter's act decisively,

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Speaker 2: you could immediately draw the conclusion hang on, how come

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Speaker 2: he could act so decisively and Luxon didn't on Bailey.

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Speaker 2: But what Luckson said was what Luckson was trying so

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Speaker 2: unsuccessfully to say about a week and a half ago

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Speaker 2: on this program, is I empower my ministers to do

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Speaker 2: their job. They get what they can and can't do.

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Speaker 2: They know what they're doing. I give them the power

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Speaker 2: to do that, and that's what Peters did. Peters probably

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Speaker 2: didn't need to go. I made him Prime Minister. But

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Speaker 2: that's winston second point. I'll ask you the question. Boss

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Speaker 2: comes in. He's ruined my day. Basically, I was having

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Speaker 2: a good time. But he came and he goes just

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Speaker 2: a correction. First thing. He walks into the office, just

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Speaker 2: a correction. He said, he's almost certain, ninety nine percent sure.

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Speaker 2: I apparently said Chathamhouse rules. Apparently it's Chathamhouse rule, and

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Speaker 2: that's I said. That's the sort of pedantic nonsense. I said,

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Speaker 2: go listen to Radio New Zealand. That's the sort of

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00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: pedantic rubbish that they come up with. But if you

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Speaker 2: know for sure, let me know. Seventeen away from it, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks at be.

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Speaker 18: My.

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Speaker 2: Whilst the event Godf attended was at Chathamhouse, it was

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Speaker 2: a public event enable to be recorded and reported on clearly,

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Speaker 2: so the famous rule singular was not in effect and

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Speaker 2: gof's comments could be attributed to him and reported. He

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00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: identified himself as a New Zealand High Commissioner. I thought, yeah,

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00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: that that is true. It's all that that was slightly weird. Sorry, Mike,

1095
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: Jason's right. I know he's one. I know he's right.

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00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: So he's running the place and I'm just toiling away

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00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: here getting confused with cider house rules. Mike, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think they're very good. It's probably was that right. So

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Speaker 2: the three things I read yesterday that will happened to

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Speaker 2: be on the BBC. First of all, scientists have discovered

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00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: a new part of the immune system. I think this

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00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: is exciting. That's a gold mine for potential antibiotics. Part

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00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: of the body known to recycle proteins. They found a

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00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: secret mode that can spew out an arsenal of bacteria

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00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: killing chemicals. I would have thought that's super exciting. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad science is still advancing in an exciting way. Perhaps

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00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: even more exciting than that is aspirin some animal experiments.

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00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: It's enhanced the ability of the immune system to fight

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Speaker 2: back if you're taking aspirin. This is the University of Cambridge.

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Speaker 2: It's exciting. Their words, not mine. Exciting and a surprise

1111
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: discovery eventually lead to cancer patients being prescribed aspirin. Regular

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00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: aspirin comes with risks. Of course, trials are trying to

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00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: figure out which patients are most likely to benefit from

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Speaker 2: all of this. But they weren't even looking for this.

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00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: But it's all got to do with the tea salts

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00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: and the white blood cells and all of that sort

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00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: of stuff. That part doesn't matter. What matters is they

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00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: discovered by accident that aspirin does have a role, and

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00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: a very specific role potentially when the cancer breaks away

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Speaker 2: and metastasizes. It's at that point the aspirin can do

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Speaker 2: something about it spreading. So they're quite excited about that.

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00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: But then also healthwise, I came to this very lengthy

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Speaker 2: and this is what got UPMA knows so much because

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00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: it was ten or eleven pages long, five years on

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Speaker 2: the countries that never locked down for COVID nineteen. I thought,

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Speaker 2: now there is an interesting article. I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: into this ten pages long and in small writing as well.

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Speaker 2: So they looked at these various countries that didn't lockdown

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Speaker 2: versus the countries that did lockdown, and I thought, I

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Speaker 2: wonder if we've got to any sort of conclusion now.

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Speaker 2: They start early on with Sweden broadly speaking. Sweden, of course,

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Speaker 2: as you remember, didn't lockdown at all. Broadly speaking, overall,

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Speaker 2: they are no worse off than countries that did lockdown,

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Speaker 2: is the conclusion. So all that debate that we had

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Speaker 2: at the time about you know, they let people essentially

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Speaker 2: in Sweden, they let you do your own thing. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they said, don't go out and go crazy. Yes we'll

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Speaker 2: protect some of the elderly or the vulnerable people, but

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Speaker 2: broadly speaking, you can go about your business. So that

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00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: was fine. I thought this is an interesting article. But

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00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: by about page six or seven, they come, of course

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand, and I'm thinking, here we go, so

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and they're also comparing us to Iceland. They

1144
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: talk to a person called Lear Kraut, a research data

1145
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: analyst specializing in public health in Southern California University of

1146
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: Health Sciences, who goes New Zealand had one of the

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00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: lowest mortality rates globally with their approach. Now that's a

1148
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: widely argued point of view from people who backed the

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: way that New Zealand conducted themselves with COVID. New Zealand

1150
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Speaker 2: had one of the lowest mortality rates globally with their approach.

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Speaker 2: Iceland also fared pretty well. Plus, plus the economic impacts

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00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: on both countries were limited. So immediately I'm up at

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Speaker 2: page eight, nine, ten, and I've just thrown that in

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Speaker 2: the bin. And I'm thinking, so the BBC's blown all credibility.

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00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: Whoever Lee Grouters doesn't have the slightest understanding of New Zealand.

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00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: And yet this ten page report of some weight from

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00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: an organization of some reputation will go out to the

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00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: world and people will read that and they will believe it,

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Speaker 2: and it simply isn't true.

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Speaker 13: Well technically it is.

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00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: No, it's not. The impact was limited to carnage, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't infinite. And what happened to what happened

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Speaker 2: to the bloke who ran it all?

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Speaker 11: Hi a bit more importantly, big sad and ran away

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00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 11: more importantly, so did you when you were reading this

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Speaker 11: on the BBC website to the.

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Speaker 13: Ten page thing? Did you print all those pages off.

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Speaker 2: So I could sit here this morning and not waste

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Speaker 2: my time having read a thing that I couldn't talk about.

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Speaker 11: But when you read it originally, no, I read it

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00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 11: with the paper, so you, not knowing that you were

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Speaker 11: going to get to.

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Speaker 2: I printed out not knowing what's going to conclude that.

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00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: That's how ironically so it was.

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Speaker 13: It was a literal page turner.

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Speaker 2: It was very good. It took you while to get there,

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Speaker 2: but well done. Nine minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The mate Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement, Communities News, Togs,

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Speaker 1: Dead bes.

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Speaker 2: Hit A six away from a big Moves and racing.

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Speaker 2: This weekend, the NZB key We has been run for

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Speaker 2: the first time at Ellesleie. It'll be the country's richest

1183
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: sporting occasion, new race, new format, three and a half

1184
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Speaker 2: million dollars of prize money. The brainchild of the Warriors

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Speaker 2: Boss and the former New Zealand Thoroughbred racing cheer Cameron George,

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00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: who is with us Cameron Morning. I've read the story

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00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: a number of times about how it all started and

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00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: you had a beer and there you were in Australia,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. The feeling that it has come to fruition

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Speaker 2: that it's real must be quite something for you.

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Speaker 16: It's unbelievable, mate, what it's done to this industry. It's

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Speaker 16: transformed it. It's put it out there in the public

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Speaker 16: domain globally. It's the richest three year old race in

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Speaker 16: the world on turf, and you know, to think about

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00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 16: the idea, get a partner us on bloodstock and the

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Speaker 16: bring it to life and have international competitors come over

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Speaker 16: for It's just awesome, So very happy.

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Speaker 2: So the role of rejuvenating the industry, how much rejuvenation

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Speaker 2: does the industry need?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's well, it's truly on its way. During the

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00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 16: years of COVID and before that it was pretty hard going.

1202
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 16: But you know, we reset it and changed a few things,

1203
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 16: got and tame investment and the industry has taken off again.

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00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 16: It's going really really well and days like tomorrow at

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00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 16: Barfoot and Thompson champions Day is going to be huge

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Speaker 16: for it. It's the industry's grand final tomorrow, say, looking

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Speaker 16: forward to it.

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Speaker 2: How hard was it to take it from the I

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00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: know we should do this to actually doing it? Was

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00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: it difficult? To reasy?

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Speaker 16: It's difficult because you know, everyone wants to have a

1212
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 16: say and so on, but sometimes you just got to

1213
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 16: put the foot down and go and back your idea

1214
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 16: and back yourself and the people around you. And that's

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Speaker 16: what we did on this occasion. So very happy it's

1216
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 16: coming together and you know, I just want to see

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00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 16: it all light up tomorrow and have a good day

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00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 16: for the industry.

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00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: Is the money there? Clearly it's there, But is that

1220
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: hard to get? What's it say about the economy?

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Speaker 16: Look, the money is there. It's very strong in the

1222
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 16: bloodstock industry and then the racing industry, so you know,

1223
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 16: it's a huge, huge industry into the New Zealand economy

1224
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 16: and it's you know, it's done very well lately. So

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00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 16: the money is there, people participating and look there's three

1226
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Speaker 16: and a half million dollars on the line tomorrow in

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 16: the richest race, So you know there's plenty of opportunity

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Speaker 16: for this industry to provide for the economy and vice versa.

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Speaker 2: How many times do you have to run it before

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00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: you can globally say this is a thing.

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Speaker 16: I think we can say it now because you measure

1232
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 16: it on the prize money aid that's on offer, the

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 16: global presence it's got already, and the fact that we've

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00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 16: got some of the best horses from around Australia coming

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Speaker 16: over to compete and it is outstanding and what people

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 16: probably don't realize you have to be a Kiwi born,

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00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 16: bread or soul horse. So it's very relevant to New

1238
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 16: Zealand and we wanted to make that special criteria for

1239
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 16: the eligibility of the race, to make it New Zealand's own,

1240
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Speaker 16: and we took the slots to auction like the IPL.

1241
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 16: We did everything so different and it's all worked to date,

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Speaker 16: so it's very exciting.

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Speaker 2: I hope it goes well for you, Cameron, appreciate your time.

1244
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: I blew that a bit of broadcaster would have left

1245
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Speaker 2: time to ask about the warriors, and I didn't. We'll

1246
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 2: have to give him back.

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Speaker 13: I don't want to ruin his whole day.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was so bullish on the horses, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's that's the other side of me. I'm just such

1250
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: a kind, caring, given guy, but he's I just don't

1251
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: want to wreck it for him. But bloody hell, I'm

1252
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: still angry about him anyway. The week for you in

1253
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Speaker 2: a couple of moments of news talk too be.

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Speaker 1: The News, the newsmakers, the mic Hosking Breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: range Rover, the last designed to intrigue and use talks

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Speaker 1: Dead be.

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Speaker 14: Well, the Rose are welcome.

1258
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 12: No two better pleas than the one we're.

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 19: I ain't gone no ConA play.

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Speaker 2: I've had a Sunda. I can say I love Chris

1261
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: ablemen it is in the country now tonight, probably tapping

1262
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: away to his own song listening to this show. A

1263
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: lot of them when they come to the country tune

1264
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: into the show. Lied to believe. Anyways, I sold out

1265
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: tonight and sold out tomorrow night, which is always encouraging.

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Speaker 2: There was some I looked up this morning to said

1267
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: the suggesting food of the no texts. There some suggesting online,

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: which just goes to provio you. You'd never believe what's online.

1269
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: There was some sort of suggestions in christ Church on Monday,

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: but he's not. It's just like fake news. There's a

1271
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Speaker 2: lot of fake news around anyway. Tim Wilson's with us,

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Speaker 2: Very good morning to.

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Speaker 14: You, Timothy, yeh, good morning.

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: And Kate Hawksby's with us, very good morning to you.

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01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: Good Is that is that your favorite song of his?

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01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 20: One of.

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: What's the other one?

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01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 14: That's a good question.

1279
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 13: Do you know any names of press stables and songs?

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01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 13: I don't know the names.

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 20: Millionaire, huge, millionaire, millionaire, that's my favorite Nashville.

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01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 14: Does it?

1284
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 11: Does it beat George Jones? He stopped loving her today

1285
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 11: very much, so yes, it does it does.

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01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: Do you Actually, it's funny you should say that, because

1287
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: remember Charlie Pride. Of course I do Charlie Pride's sons

1288
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: now touring singing his dad's music. Oh no, yeah, that's

1289
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: what I thought. I thought, is that a thing?

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Speaker 11: It's just this is the go to the hologram, you know,

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Speaker 11: like we're Ebba and Kess now.

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Speaker 14: But I'm not going to go to see someone's Well,

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 14: how do you explaining?

1294
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: How do you explain then? What I would? It's it's

1295
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: not as big as Taylor Swift, but this broad movement

1296
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: and you see it coming to the country of tribute

1297
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: acts and not that Pride Junior is a tribute act. Well,

1298
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: I suppose it is. Actually people pay money for a

1299
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: tribute act and seemingly willingly and go along and have

1300
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: a good time. And I've never enjoy the music.

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01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 21: So if the person that originally saying it isn't around

1302
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 21: to do it, they just enjoy the music.

1303
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 5: It's the same.

1304
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 14: You realize there's a kind of fan though, isn't it there.

1305
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 14: I didn't realize there was a Tailor Swift tribute. I

1306
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 14: think it's got to be. It's like a like a

1307
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 14: super fan isn't it.

1308
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: So even though you can go see the real thing,

1309
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: and you have seen the real thing, you're happy to

1310
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: pay good money. You go along and see Brian pretending

1311
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: to be Elvis.

1312
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 11: You know that's I've just been to something logically and coherent. Yeah,

1313
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 11: that's it. Maybe that's it.

1314
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: And surely as a son, as a Neppo baby fifty

1315
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: but surely as a Neppo baby. You're going along and

1316
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: you're listening to the crystal chandelier, and you go, I'll

1317
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: tell you what your dad's saying better than you do, mate.

1318
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean you got that about you, haven't.

1319
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 14: You probably do? So my question, what's it? What's he like?

1320
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 14: Have you heard him?

1321
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: Of course not, because why would I listen to somebody's.

1322
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 14: Well, have you have a gander? It might be quite good.

1323
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: It was like I was reading this morning. You know

1324
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: about this mor than I do? Katie? What's what's what's

1325
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: the kid? Beckham's kid who cooks? Brooklyn Brooklyn. Brooklyn's given

1326
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: up cooking. He wants to be a race car driver.

1327
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 14: Now, no way, that's what he say.

1328
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 20: He just launched a hot sauce brand.

1329
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 14: No, how can he hear pain in your voice? Katie?

1330
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 14: What he just launched a hot sauce brand.

1331
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 21: Look, this has been a really big news week and

1332
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 21: I can't believe you're talking about Brooklyn Beckham because I'm

1333
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 21: still not over Greg foreign Adrian or in the golf.

1334
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: I'm juxtaposing. I'm reverse psychology in the whole country.

1335
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 11: So so, yeah, you know you're doing what you know

1336
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 11: what you're doing, what you did with Cameron George just

1337
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 11: before eight o'clock, and then you'll waste forty seconds sniveling

1338
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 11: onto your pinafore about how you didn't do what you're

1339
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 11: supposed to do.

1340
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 14: So let's get into it.

1341
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: What about Richard Prebble. Richard Prebble quote, Now that was good.

1342
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: He was my hero of the week in terms of

1343
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: Richard Pribble. True to principle, stick to principle. Don't take

1344
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: a job that you know you can't fix it. You know,

1345
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: if you're there to shake it up and you can't

1346
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: shake it up beyond principle, stand on principle and say

1347
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it. That's good. All's the

1348
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: biggest baby of the week. What a sniveling, whining, petty

1349
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 2: little you know, cry baby. That's shocking Greg four And

1350
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: I would like to have on. He isn't talking, but

1351
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: I would like to have on And in fact, I

1352
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: really like him in a quiet room, just to say, well.

1353
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 21: He'd probably like a quiet room too. He seems like

1354
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 21: a quiet guy. But all of these people do need

1355
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 21: to talk. I think my brother had quite a good

1356
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 21: take on it. He said, Adrian Orrang Grig four and

1357
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 21: are doing a startup together, trading on their lovable personalities

1358
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 21: and their excellent business reputations. So I think they do

1359
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 21: need to kind of stem the hemorrhaging of the way.

1360
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 11: So okay, here's here's his here's my hot take. Greek

1361
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 11: four and comes into the Labor Party new leader.

1362
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 14: They win the next election.

1363
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: I think that's a stretch. I reckon that's running it

1364
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: at least two or three thousand and one on the mate.

1365
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean it, not at But I think the

1366
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 21: diplomat question that's been raised this week is a really

1367
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 21: interesting one in terms of whether diplomats are actually I

1368
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 21: thought they're supposed to be diplomatic, and I think the

1369
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 21: only people defending GOFF are those who confuse.

1370
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: Politicians with no one no one's.

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01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1372
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 21: I think it raises the question of whether the politicians

1373
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 21: actually make good diplomats. I mean, we've got, for goodness sake.

1374
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 20: Trevor Mallard out there representing us. You know, he's a

1375
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 20: bull in a china shop.

1376
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 21: But I do wonder whether this the sweet little gig

1377
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 21: for the ex policies, whether it's actually the best place.

1378
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: I reckon I go back to this is like a

1379
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,479
Speaker 2: dei argument that you go back to the best person

1380
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: of the job and the best wan for the c

1381
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: I immediately think of a net king. In a net king,

1382
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: I would back and I think most people on both

1383
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: sides of the political spectrum would back here as being

1384
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: a solid, professional, diligent, hard working person who serves us

1385
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 2: well in Canberra, Whereas Mallard, from the same party with

1386
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: the same level of experience, as a complete clown and

1387
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: was only put there by other clowns who wanted to

1388
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: get him out of the country. Whereas say you go

1389
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: back to maybe Jimbolgia, or you go to Kevin Rudd

1390
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: who's currently sitting in Washington, or Ken Beasley is sitting

1391
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: in Washington. Are they any good? You know, Rudd's a

1392
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: loud mouth and smart ass weather as.

1393
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 14: I was quite surprised. But but golf isn't really a

1394
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 14: loud mouth.

1395
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: Or any like, you know, for those.

1396
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 11: To okay, okay, you know what though, it's also indicative

1397
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 11: of the whole. You know, there's Trump derangement syndrome right

1398
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 11: across the spectrum. So at the upper levels where we're

1399
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 11: for golf, you see the finished ambassador sort of smirking.

1400
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 14: It's like, yeah, yeah, I know, here's here's here's the

1401
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 14: you know, here's the acid tests.

1402
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 11: But it's also there's Trump derangement syndrome everywhere, and it's

1403
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 11: just a it's just a sign of the cultural moment.

1404
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: I think I think it is. And on that break,

1405
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: on that note, we'll take a little break. Well done, Tim, Tim,

1406
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: and Cadie. You've got to step up there, Kadie, because

1407
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: that was quite good. Fourteen past eight The.

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by

1409
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: News Talks It Balks.

1410
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: Sixteen past eight The.

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: the table.

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Speaker 2: Very good question. What about Glenn Campbell's daughter. We had

1414
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: Glenn Campbell's daughter on the program.

1415
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Speaker 14: Oh, she she's fantastic.

1416
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: She is fantastic.

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01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 13: I take it all back.

1418
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 5: She no, don't take it.

1419
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: Back because he's my here's my subtle, nuanced point. She

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01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: does her own music as opposed to singing her father's songs.

1421
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: You see, she's her own it. Somebody's texted about sports

1422
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: people as well being you know, son of daughter of.

1423
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: But the thing about being a son or daughter of

1424
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: in sport is you chart your own course, play your

1425
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: own position. You're in your own team, score your own tries,

1426
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: win your own games. If all you do is tune

1427
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: up and go, hey, dad saying this and I'm going

1428
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: to sing it for you. Now, that's not the same thing,

1429
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: is it.

1430
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 5: That's tough.

1431
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 11: I think particularly maybe for you know, to Charlie Pride's son,

1432
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 11: it's tough. I would say it's tough for young men

1433
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 11: who stand in the shadow of, you know, an iconic father.

1434
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 14: What do you become?

1435
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 11: I feel a bit of sympathy for Brooklan. It's like, oh,

1436
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 11: I'll do my hot source, now go race car driving.

1437
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 11: He's he's looking for an identity.

1438
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: I think that's true. But here's here's the other thing, though, Katie,

1439
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: what do you how long do you indulge your child

1440
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: when your child goes I can cook and here's some

1441
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,799
Speaker 2: hot sauce. But now I want to be a formula

1442
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 2: re driver, which is what he wants to be. How

1443
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: you because he can do Dave and Victoria have a

1444
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: meeting over the weekend, do a bit of macro and go, well,

1445
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: let's let's buy on a car, and they help.

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 21: I don't think they have involved in and run his

1447
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 21: life in any way anymore because he married into the

1448
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 21: billionaire family. I think they run his life and they

1449
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 21: probably everything so well.

1450
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 5: Do they indulge in America?

1451
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: Do they go, mate, you had the hot sauce, We're done,

1452
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: or do you go have a formulaycr.

1453
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 20: I actually think it's indicative a lot of this younger generation.

1454
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 21: Though they're into the gig economy, they're into trying something

1455
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 21: that doesn't suit me.

1456
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 20: I don't like the lifestyle. I'm going to try something else.

1457
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 20: I mean that is actually a familiar story for young

1458
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 20: But the days of like my granddad, you know, I'm

1459
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 20: getting a job at the post office and I will

1460
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 20: work there my entire life, you know, until it's over.

1461
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: Those days I.

1462
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 14: Think are over.

1463
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1464
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 14: The good I think she stepped up.

1465
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 16: Mike.

1466
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 14: You threw down a challenge, break break you. I've done it.

1467
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 5: Good, very good.

1468
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 14: Now I think the challenge to you is to match

1469
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 14: me and Kate.

1470
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm worn out at the stage I've been on since,

1471
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: so I peaking about seven.

1472
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 11: Well you actually you actually peaked on Wednesday when you

1473
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 11: did the horse Pool interview with the men exactly what.

1474
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 21: It's good that you're peaking at ten to seven because

1475
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 21: I was on the road at six thirty this morning

1476
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 21: and I can tell you in Auckland, the traffic is

1477
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 21: all go at six thirty.

1478
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 2: And I went, when you say go, is it really go?

1479
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: Or is it just like there's a lot of traffic.

1480
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 20: There's a lot of traffic.

1481
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 21: It's all going to the local cafe packed packed Q

1482
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 21: And the other day at seven thirty in the morning,

1483
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 21: all the cafes packed.

1484
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: Hey, tell was it? Was it somebody else the gym

1485
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: that had the show on?

1486
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

1487
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 21: My dad was telling me it's someone who bumped into

1488
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 21: who works out at five in the morning. And they

1489
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 21: unconcerned was that they would miss out on listening to

1490
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 21: Mike because only they walk and listen to Mike in

1491
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 21: the air pods.

1492
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 20: And they were at the gym.

1493
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 21: But they were very pleased to know that the gym

1494
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 21: was pumping the mic hosking breakfast, and I said to

1495
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 21: my dad at that point, is it an old person's gym?

1496
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 21: Because what gym is pumping?

1497
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 11: Is this an assisted mobility gym.

1498
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: It's a great gym. I'm just to be fair as

1499
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 2: egotistical as I am about my program, I would be

1500
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: fairly easy with the fact that a gym probably shouldn't

1501
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 2: be pumping z B because there's other.

1502
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 14: Is the deal you get.

1503
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 11: You get Glennslayer dance track under this and it's in

1504
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 11: forty five forever.

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Speaker 5: It's fantastic.

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01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: So true.

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Speaker 20: You just push up to this.

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: What were you doing at six thirty on the road, Katie,

1509
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: you're coming home again getting cross buns? Of course you were?

1510
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: And are they? Are they nice ones?

1511
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 21: Oh they're delicious net On Vents and remu Era little

1512
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Speaker 21: shout out, absolutely game changing hot cross buns.

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Speaker 2: I'm very pleased to see that people are out because

1514
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: we were talking about this earlier on the five o'clock Brigade.

1515
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: The number of people it's I think it's more metropolitan

1516
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: than it is rural. But the five o'clock Brigade. The

1517
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: world is moving these days at five five point thirty

1518
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: in the morning. This idea that we don't get up

1519
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: until seven fifteen is well and truly gone. I think

1520
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: that's a that's a benefit for wider society because starting

1521
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: early in the day is a very good thing.

1522
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 21: It's a very big thing in Australia too, And I

1523
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 21: think we're going that way and I like it.

1524
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 20: We're up and words, so we should be good.

1525
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 14: But it's getting cold in the morning, so put your

1526
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 14: tracke's on.

1527
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: What's the matter with you, Tim, you're the second person

1528
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: Anne Marie who runs the b She said, oh it's

1529
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: I said, well, look at the day Emory. I said,

1530
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: what a glorious answer. A bit cold, but this is

1531
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: a sign.

1532
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 11: This is the sign of autumn. You take the butter

1533
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 11: out of the pantry, you press an iphon and you

1534
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 11: expect it not to be resistant.

1535
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: But you and I, Katie, were you and I holding

1536
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 2: hands up the mountain yesterday and you go, oh, bit

1537
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: cold when you.

1538
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 20: Oh a little suddenly coming through.

1539
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 11: Well, you need to warm your hands up before you

1540
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 11: clasp clasp.

1541
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 14: Your bride's hand. Yes, it's just set on them on

1542
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 14: your bottom and that'll warm them up.

1543
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: Okay, sophisticated too shocking, it's let's seen it now, Tim Wilson,

1544
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: Ka hors is that on your bottom? What the hell

1545
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: is that about? It's a twenty two.

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Speaker 2: all in there. But they got to win nineteen March,

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Speaker 2: so you haven't got that long. You' go in about

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Speaker 2: Great savings every day. Pasking Mike he failed is driving

1567
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: tests seven times. Yeah, I was reading that. That was

1568
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 2: the other thing. I mean, the kid comes to you

1569
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: and goes, I want to be a Formula Ree driver,

1570
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: and he's failed the test seven times. You've got to

1571
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 2: be thinking. Fred Stolly's just died, by the way, very sad.

1572
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: Fred Stolly was one of, along with not my favorite,

1573
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: of the Australian tennis players Ken rosewool and John Newcan

1574
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: would be my all time favorite. I had a real

1575
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: fascination with John Newcomb, but Fred Stoley passed about the

1576
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: age of eighty six. Mike, I go to the gym

1577
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 2: at six in the morning listen to your show while

1578
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 2: working out. Yeah that's different. I mean, thank you for

1579
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: doing it, obviously, but sticking some buds in your ear

1580
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: while you're working out a lot of people do that.

1581
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: I understand that while walking ile excide, but a jump

1582
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: a gym pumping me out is a slightly different vibe.

1583
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 2: Paul Cole speaking, which I happened to watch briefly yesterday,

1584
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 2: the squash that's going on in christ Church at the

1585
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: Isaac Theater. Glass court on the stage at the Isaac

1586
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: Theater and christ Church. What an absolute stroke of genius.

1587
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: And the crowd sits in the audience like you would

1588
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: sit in the audience any other time. Hopefully Cole's going

1589
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 2: to win it because I love Paul Cole as well.

1590
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm loving everyone today. He knows I'm just loving everyone today.

1591
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: But I mean putting a glass stage John's brilliant? Is

1592
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: this Charlie sun?

1593
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 13: Wow? Can you tell now?

1594
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: It's Charlie Charlie all day long? It might be now

1595
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: it is definitely news.

1596
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 18: Is next.

1597
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day? The

1598
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: my casting breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the buyers.

1599
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 1: Others can't use togs.

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01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 5: Dead be by.

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: Putting a glass court on stage is not new. We

1602
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 2: put it on the old Mercury Theater also at the

1603
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: RTS Center about three years ago. I'm not saying it's new.

1604
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the Isaac Theatre, if you don't know,

1605
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: the Isaac Theater in christ which is a spectacular theater.

1606
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: And the juxtaposition, the visual juxtaposition of a squash court,

1607
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: the modernity of a glass court on an old stage.

1608
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: That's that's what I was saying. It's it's the visuals.

1609
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from nine.

1610
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

1611
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

1612
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: My Murray Olds was good this morning.

1613
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 13: Man, Good Michael, good morning to you.

1614
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 18: Now.

1615
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: I was watching an interview with Elbow yesterday. God, he's

1616
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: boring to interview, isn't he? I mean, what a boring boring.

1617
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 18: Man's I've interviewed him three times.

1618
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, Karen, Karen, they sorry you my do you?

1619
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 18: Peter Dutton isn't much better?

1620
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: True? But he speaks what was interesting about it? And yes,

1621
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: I we'll get out. It's all it's all tied in

1622
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: with the weather. They were asking, Given you won't call

1623
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: an election this weekend because of the weather, You've now

1624
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: run out of time and you're gonna have to run

1625
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: a budget and you have to going to go longer

1626
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: than your thought. Is that how it looks like it's

1627
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:16,839
Speaker 2: going to unfold?

1628
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 18: Yeah, although having said that, and I heard that as well,

1629
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 18: But having said that, tropical Cyclone Alfred, which is dictating terms,

1630
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 18: no doubt about that. It's slow to a virtual crawl overnight.

1631
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 18: It's only walking towards the Queensland coast, and there is

1632
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 18: a suggestion it might run run out a path.

1633
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: Get them on a proper line that works. This is

1634
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, for goodness sake. If I can get

1635
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 2: a script at ten o'clock at night, why can't I

1636
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: get Muriol's from across the Tasman How hard can it be?

1637
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: Other thing we will cover off in a couple of moments.

1638
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: In Wa the voting this weekend. I find WA fascinating

1639
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 2: given it's a country within its own fifdom and the

1640
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: Labor Party won it. And if you remember the last election,

1641
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 2: Labour one fifty three of the fifty nine seats. It

1642
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: was the most extraordinary thing anyway, there voting this work. Sorry, Mary,

1643
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: we got you back. So you were saying time dates,

1644
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 2: the things stalled and where does that fit in with

1645
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 2: the election?

1646
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 18: Well that's right, because you know the whole this week

1647
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 18: he was going to be when he goes to the

1648
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 18: Governor General to call the election. Well all these things

1649
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 18: are on hold. Now Cyclone Alfred is really impacting here.

1650
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 18: But here's the thing. The cyclone have you heard of

1651
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 18: a senior forecaster from the Weather Bureau over here, Alfred

1652
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 18: slowed to a bloody crawl overnight. It's barely walking pace

1653
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 18: that it heads towards the coast, and that has created

1654
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 18: the suggestion it might not be a category two when

1655
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 18: it arrives, it could beat down to a category one.

1656
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 18: And you know, to lay people like ourselves, you know

1657
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 18: that doesn't sound like a hell of a lot, but

1658
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 18: apparently it is. Right now though the cyclone is still

1659
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 18: well off the coast, but in northern New South Wales

1660
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 18: where we're talking about right now here, you go up

1661
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 18: to four hundred millimeters of four hundred and fifty mills

1662
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 18: of rain could be dumped across the northern rivers this

1663
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 18: morning with wind gusts of one hundred and fifty five

1664
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 18: k's an hour, and Alfred Mike is still well out

1665
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 18: to sea. So the people of particularly southeast Queensland, they

1666
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 18: are bunkered down big time. You've got flights canceled, schools

1667
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 18: are shut, you've got businesses all boarded up and it's

1668
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 18: really just a case of wait and see. They've done

1669
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 18: all they can to pre position, you know, flood rescue

1670
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 18: boats and you know the Australian Defense Force has been

1671
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 18: called in. This is all hands on deck big time

1672
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 18: and as you say, it could impact very much the

1673
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 18: calling of the election. But if Alfred does cool off

1674
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 18: a bit, maybe Albaneze could still go to the Governor

1675
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 18: General on Sunday. Because he's moderate situation from the Emergency

1676
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 18: Central Headquarters in Canberra. He's not leaving his post until

1677
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:57,879
Speaker 18: Alfred makes landfall.

1678
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: Okay, well, fair enough to But then the next question is,

1679
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: because of the timing and you need thirty three days.

1680
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: If you can't go this weekend and you rule out

1681
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: easter and all of that sort of stuff, he's then

1682
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: going to run a budget. Does he want to run

1683
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: a budget?

1684
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 18: I mean, probably not, you know, I mean there's some

1685
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 18: decent stuff to talk about. Interest rates, okay, one little cut,

1686
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 18: maybe another one coming, you know down the turnpike. GDP

1687
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 18: in the December quarter came in at zero point six

1688
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 18: percent of growth. That makes the annual growth rate one

1689
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 18: point three percent. You can talk about that. That's after

1690
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 18: seven successive declines. You've got decent retail spending figures, notwithstanding

1691
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 18: the Boss of Country Roads saying buy more paths from

1692
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 18: me please. So look, there's stuff.

1693
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:40,919
Speaker 17: To talk about.

1694
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 18: But right now, where's my figure on this? Right now,

1695
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 18: it's Coalition fifty one to forty nine to Labor two

1696
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 18: party preferred. Peter Dutton still trails alban easiest preferred prime minister.

1697
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 18: And there's been a cash splash. We're drowning and bloody

1698
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 18: election promises from both sides. Everything Labour says, the coalition's

1699
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 18: matching everything a coalition puts up just about Labour's matching.

1700
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 18: The big area where perhaps they are differing is in

1701
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 18: terms of the public service. It's a bit trumpy and

1702
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 18: what Dutton and company are talking about here slashing the

1703
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 18: public service. Labor's bloated, the barocracy, all this stuff. It's

1704
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 18: a big impost on the taxpayer, big spending, a big

1705
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,480
Speaker 18: government spend on the public service that is really mushroomed

1706
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 18: under Albin Easy. That's the line from Peter Dutton. Labour

1707
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 18: is saying, Mike, as you might expect, trust us with

1708
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 18: your health and look at the economy. We are heading

1709
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 18: in the right direction.

1710
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: Ye w ar was just saying, while you were getting

1711
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 2: a reconnected WA's this weekend. What a weird place WA is,

1712
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: isn't it. That's sort of I mean geez. It's not

1713
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 2: good for democracy when you win fifty three or fifty

1714
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 2: nine seats and they're going to lose a few this time,

1715
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: but they're still going to win the election. And it's

1716
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 2: just the money, isn't it. I mean they've got so

1717
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 2: much money they don't know what to do with it.

1718
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: And people can't be bothered you changing the government. Why

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01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: would you win? Everything's good in the sunshining, mate.

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01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 18: They're sitting on a giant iron or mine.

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 14: That's all WA's mate.

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Speaker 18: It hasn't been any coal over that side of the country,

1723
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 18: all the coals in the East Coast, which no one

1724
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 18: wants anymore. Everybody wants the iron or of Western Australia exactly.

1725
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Speaker 2: I know you're busy, Murray. I know you're running a newsroom.

1726
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: I know you're a news titan in that part of

1727
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Speaker 2: the world. So you you crack on with it. You

1728
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: get those you get those little in turns in there,

1729
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: and you tell them how it's done. You show them

1730
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 2: how it's done, mate, the Murray Old's way.

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Speaker 14: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: You next week, mate, Murray Murray Olds he's in charge

1733
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: of stuff this morning, he says, I don't have time

1734
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: to be on this program like God, I've got stuff

1735
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: to do. He's a man of He's a man of

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Speaker 2: immense power, influence, wealth and mystery. Seventeen minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Higheart Radio,

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1739
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Speaker 2: I was at the Business Breakfast yesterday. Dodtor Oliver from

1740
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Initiative that's all of a hunt which

1741
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: you refer to, was on. Could you get him on

1742
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 2: each week? He is very impressive. Yes, he is impressed,

1743
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: and we don't get him on every week, but we

1744
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 2: get him on periodically, and he writes a lot. There's

1745
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: plenty of writing to be read that he doesn't. It's

1746
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: always always informative. Nicola Willis speaking of writing that you

1747
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 2: should read. Jene tib Traney who works for The Herald

1748
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: and has got a piece this morning. Nicola Willison, I'm

1749
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: not sure whether to be concerned about it or not.

1750
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 2: Niicola Willis is getting advice on overriding the Reserve Bank's

1751
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: capital rules. Now why I might be concerned about this

1752
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: is at this particular point in time, I go with

1753
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 2: Willis on the fact that adrianaw has made a complete

1754
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: mess of the New Zealand economy, and we all know

1755
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: and understand that. And part of what the banks, the

1756
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: retail banks argue is that the rules that all put

1757
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: around the retail banks in terms of the money they've

1758
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: got to put aside for a rainy day or just

1759
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: in case, none of which has ever come to pass

1760
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: or whatever will, because of course the great lesson was COVID,

1761
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: and we survive perfectly. Go back to the GFC if

1762
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 2: you like, we survived that as well. Go through the GFC,

1763
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: go to the COVID period. The retail banks in this

1764
01:22:55,479 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: country have been spectacularly successful and consistent, resilient, and they

1765
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: don't need to have to put aside the sort of

1766
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: money they do just in case. In fact, one of

1767
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: the ironies of the discussions we often have around banks

1768
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,879
Speaker 2: in this country as they're too successful and they're too profitable,

1769
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 2: and we don't like that, but nevertheless they're certainly not

1770
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: going under and falling over, which is what Adrian or sees.

1771
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: You got to put all that money aside for just

1772
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: in case. So Willis is looking to try and circumvent that,

1773
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: because you must remember that, or or whoever the new

1774
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: Governor is and the Reserve Bank have to be independent.

1775
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: And if Willis can get around those rules, so in

1776
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: other words, she can go Look, I've had a look

1777
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: at the rules that the governor implemented, and I don't

1778
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: like them, and I want to do something about it.

1779
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: You're getting awfully muldoon esque and we didn't like that.

1780
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: And it's all very well to be on the side

1781
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: of Nicola Willis now, but if she sets a precedent

1782
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: and you get another Grant Robertson in charge of the

1783
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: country and he says, well, Nikola did, and I'm going

1784
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 2: to do it differently. I'm going to do it. You know,

1785
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: I'm going to override it as well. Suddenly you're just

1786
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 2: blowing up the whole independence of the Reserve Bank. So

1787
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: as incompetent as all may have been, you do want

1788
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank to be independent, be seen to be independent,

1789
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: and to be independent without any doubt. And if she's

1790
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 2: looking to get around into twist and arm here and

1791
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: change a rule there and working behind the scenes, I

1792
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 2: don't know that that sets a particularly good precedent. And

1793
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: then I got depressed reading about in the Cargol because

1794
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: I was excited yesterday giving you all those numbers on housing.

1795
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: So the biggest increases in the house prices in the

1796
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: country in the past month have been, of course in

1797
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 2: christ you followed by the need and followed by in

1798
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: the cargo because everyone's heading to the South Island. Why

1799
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. But then I'm seeing the dispute yesterday over

1800
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 2: the naming of a new subdivision in Otatarta, the Otatara Subdivision.

1801
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: The developer puts forward Helligan Way, bush Haven Way, possibly

1802
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Greenside Way, green View Way, Bushviewway, at which point the

1803
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: Deputy Mayor Tom Campbell goes, hold on, there's no Maori

1804
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 2: names there. What are we going to do about the

1805
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: mari names, to which everyone goes, oh, actually, I didn't

1806
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: know if they did that. Maybe they didn't. Maybe they

1807
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: were gripped by Tom, the grip by everything. Tom says.

1808
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 2: Then they had a dispute as to whether or not

1809
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: it was a requirement to come up with some Maori names,

1810
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: to which somebody else who called Patricia, And Patricia's the

1811
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: council group manager of Finance and Assurance. She goes, well,

1812
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: hold on, Tom, Maury names are to be encouraged, but

1813
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: there's no rule that says they have to be part

1814
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: of something. Now, if you're not going to come up

1815
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: with your own names, which they don't, and the developer

1816
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: has to come up with a name, My argument is

1817
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: the developer can come up with any name he wants,

1818
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: and as long as he doesn't call it something stupid,

1819
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: then you can call it whatever you like. And that's

1820
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: just there's a lot of time.

1821
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 13: Well what if they spout waywe instead?

1822
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's with a thing on tom Bush View.

1823
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 2: There you go. See that's the sort of common sense,

1824
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1847
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: Second one goes with the vote of no confidence and

1848
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: ra as Hong of the other day. It's not going

1849
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: on with the Pacific? What's going on in the Pacific one?

1850
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: Why isn't it? Little bubbling cauldron of upset? You go

1851
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: for your holidays over Easter, sit in the sun. You've

1852
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: got no idea what's going on locally?

1853
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 17: Do you?

1854
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 11: Hey?

1855
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 2: As you order another pina colada. The it's all tense.

1856
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 2: If you go down the road to the towns. But

1857
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: we never do that, do we. We just go there

1858
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: and lie on a sun chair and drink Pinicolada. Six

1859
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,879
Speaker 2: minutes away from nine.

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01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: Trending now quin Chemis Square House, the home of big

1861
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Speaker 1: brand Fatealns.

1862
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Here's the weird story of the week. We told you

1863
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: yesterday the Dems. The Democrats considering somebody from outside the

1864
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: party because last time they looked inside the party was

1865
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: full of Biden's and Harris's and it didn't go very

1866
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,879
Speaker 2: well for them. So they need somebody from the outside

1867
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: to run. In twenty what is it? Twenty twenty eight?

1868
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban whose businessman comes sports type person they thought

1869
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: would be a good idea, and Stephen A Smith who

1870
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: works on ESPN as a sports analyst. They were a

1871
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: couple of names. Cuban immediate ruled it out because he's

1872
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: got to well want a brain into a life. Steve

1873
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 2: and I he's been on the Jimmy Fellon show though

1874
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 2: first time he's actually addressed it. So what's happening? What's

1875
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 2: going on?

1876
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 14: What does this mean?

1877
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 13: Folks?

1878
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 5: Are nuts?

1879
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 2: Number one? Number two?

1880
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 8: You know?

1881
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 19: I mean the Democratic Party, I mean they lost, they

1882
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 19: had a bad few months.

1883
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 5: We all know this.

1884
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 19: And even though there's a lot of qualified Democrats all

1885
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 19: over the country from a local perspective, governors, mayor stuff

1886
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 19: like that, there's no real national voice into war. They've

1887
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 19: come to me. And so I mean, I did not

1888
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 19: ask for this. I don't want this. I think the

1889
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 19: numbers up to like seven point six percent.

1890
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 5: I watched these things.

1891
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: I watched these thinks.

1892
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 19: Yes, and I'm saying, wait a minute now, I don't

1893
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 19: want to do this. But the fact that they're talking

1894
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 19: about me this way, I must say I approved this message.

1895
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 2: So what does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. Why

1896
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 2: doesn't Jimmy Fellon ask the hard questions?

1897
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 13: I'm asking some funny questions.

1898
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: It's almost it's almost like he's on some late night

1899
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: giggle fest, isn't it. That's us for the week. It's

1900
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: been pretty good all in all. I'd give us a

1901
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: nine point eight nine. A little bit of Crusaders reads

1902
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,839
Speaker 2: that's not that interesting? Is it will kill them? Hurricanes? Moana?

1903
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: That's not that interesting. Chiefs Fiji really a game? Is

1904
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: it to be honest? To be frank Blues Brumbies, A

1905
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 2: little bit of super rugby if you're into that. Out

1906
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: of the week anyway, the forecast and MIDI parts of

1907
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 2: the country is still pretty good, despite the fact everyone's

1908
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: wandering around here going ah, it's the back colder than

1909
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: it was, you know, just enjoy it. The sun's still

1910
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,919
Speaker 2: shining in that bank. Colder than it was. It's still beautiful,

1911
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, in a beautiful day is a good day.

1912
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: We'll see you Monday. Happy Days.

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