1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: From our numbers don't lie. File good news from education 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: as we find out we have more teachers entering schools 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: than in the past twenty years. So the workforce has 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: grown by eighteen hundred last year, largest year on year 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: increase since two thousand and nine, that's when records began. 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Educational Minister Erica Stamford's with us morning, good morning, correct 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Eighteen hundred and sixty four in 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: total eleven twenty eight and primary seven thirty six and secondary. 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Is that balanced? Is that sort of what we need? 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: That is sort of what we need, and it is 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: starting to plug a gap. And you know, we're creating 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: this world leading education system people want to be a 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: part of. We do have a shortage of primary and 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: secondary school teachers, and I think that these numbers are 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: starting to arrest that decline and more people are wanting 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: to get into education to change lives. 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: What's changed, Well, there's. 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: A number of factors that have changed, but I mean, 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: essentially teachers want to go into teaching right to change lives, 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: and we are helping them to do that. We've got 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: a world leading curriculum, all of the incredible resources for 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: free that go along with it all of this amazing 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: well leading professional learning and development, and just announced this 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: huge learning support package and that has certainly helped. Look 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: on top of that, we've invested really heavily into on 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: site training programs. We're paying teacher fees. You know, there's 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: a number of things that have gone into making this, 28 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: you know, a profession that people want to go into. 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: We're really focused on making sure that we're talking up 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: how incredible it is to be a teacher and to 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: change lives. But I think a big part of it 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: is all of the resourcing that's going in at the moment. 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: What's the breakdown at locals v immigrants and does it matter? 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: Look, I certainly want to grow our own. We know 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: that last year we had a substantial increase, just over 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: six point three percent increase in young people studying at 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: initial teacher education. This year, from this is just provisional 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: figures so far, it's a twenty seven percent increase. So 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: we are seeing more and more young people choosing to 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: go into education and be part of this world leading 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: education system. But we are bolstering the numbers, of course 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: by overseas teachers. Then we have to do that at 43 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: the moment and we probably will continue to need to 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: do into the future as well. 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: If you gave the numbers for the average income for 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: a teacher, do you think most people, like my good self, 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: would be surprised at the figures? Well, it's not a 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: bad do it now. 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: When I ask people what do you think it is, 50 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: they always guess a lot lower, which I think is telling. 51 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: But the numbers are. You know, it is a tough job, 52 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: and we do expect a huge amount of our teachers, 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: and they are changing lives, and so we need to 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: be making sure we're paying them more every single pay round, 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: which we've committed to do. But I don't think most 56 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: people do know what the average teacher. 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: Is on ninety four for a primary teacher, average one 58 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: hundred and one for a secondary teacher, a principal at 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: secondary two hundred thousand dollars. That's serious money. 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and they work extraordinarily hard for that and 61 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: they do an amazing job. 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: Good Well, I'm glad we're getting somewhere. We're on a 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: path here, Erica. Do you think we are? 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: And Mike, I've been overseas and I have been the 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: Minister's of Education from all around the world, come up 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: to me. They know what we're doing. They're watching what 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: we're doing. We are world leading in our curriculum and 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: in our resourcing and our shifts in the way that 69 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: we're teaching to that explicit structured learning. People are watching us. 70 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: It is world leading and it's exciting to be a. 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: Part of good. All right, nice to talk to your 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Minister of Education at Erica Stampon. Remember those words next 73 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: time you hear a unionist on the news. For more 74 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 76 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.