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Speaker 1: Here the duplessy Ella.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Deborah may be talking rubbish, but she does

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Speaker 2: have a wonderful speaking voice. We're going to focus on

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Speaker 2: the positives today. Nineteen past five. Now, what about this?

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Speaker 2: A retirement village on Auckland's north shore is looking at

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Speaker 2: banning electric cars. Fairview lifestyle Village is in mediation with

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Speaker 2: residents on the issue because they're worried about the risk

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Speaker 2: of a lithium battery fire. Kirston Causon is the chair

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Speaker 2: of Drive Electric and is with us high Kirsten.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Heather, is this reasoningly?

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Speaker 2: Yea, thank you.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not sure that they've actually sought this through

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Speaker 1: and analyzed the data.

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Speaker 2: What would then, talery they did?

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Speaker 1: Evs are twenty five times less likely to catch fire

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Speaker 1: than a picture or a.

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Speaker 2: Diesel vehicle, even just stationary.

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Speaker 1: Even just stationary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what causes a petrol or a diesel vehicle to

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Speaker 2: just combust if it's stationary?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's you know, if it's in an accident

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Speaker 1: or you know, that's what.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like you because what about when we just

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Speaker 2: measure it, when it's just sitting outside the house doing nothing.

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Speaker 2: Isn't an electric vehicle more likely to burn.

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Speaker 1: Only if it's been damaged. And to be honest, if

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Speaker 1: you look at something like you're cheap and cheerful power tools,

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Speaker 1: they're fifty times more likely to catch fire than an EV.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's it not like because I think what's

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Speaker 2: happened here, Kirsten. There's a lot of people have looked

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Speaker 2: at the examples that we've seen with you know, the

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Speaker 2: charging of the electric bikes and apartments in Wellington and

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Speaker 2: nick minute they're on fire and exploding in people's faces,

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Speaker 2: and people have then just transferred that over to electric

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Speaker 2: vehicles not a problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look what you'll see with scooters and e bikes

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Speaker 1: and is that when they're imported there's no certification on

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Speaker 1: their battery and there's no annual servicing on those batteries.

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Speaker 1: So they are far more likely to catch fire than

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Speaker 1: an actual EV that has a certified battery and has

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Speaker 1: a servicing regime.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is there a middle ground that we can strike

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Speaker 2: here with the residents the lifestyle village where maybe if

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Speaker 2: they're worried about these cars, these cars can just be

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Speaker 2: parked a little bit away from the units or something

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Look, you if you look at a country like Norway

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Speaker 1: where ninety percent of their cars, you know, new car

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Speaker 1: sales are electric now and thirty percent of their fleet.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not concerned about this. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: not parking EV's away. And when you think about New

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Speaker 1: Zealand government has got a target that we get to

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Speaker 1: thirty percent by twenty thirty. You know, evs are going

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Speaker 1: to be the future of mobility. So if they want

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Speaker 1: to have a viable business, you know, moving forward, they

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Speaker 1: have to accept that. You know, electrification is going to

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Speaker 1: be the mode of mobility in the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kirstin, thanks very much, appreciate your Ti'm Kirsten Couson,

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Speaker 2: the chair of Drive Electric. For more from Heather duplessy Ellen,

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