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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. The only place for the

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Speaker 1: big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks ed B.

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Speaker 2: Hello you, good afternoon. WelCom in a very warm welcoming

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Speaker 2: to the Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks

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Speaker 2: ed B for November eight, Happy fourteen, ninth birthday to

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Speaker 2: former Ossie pace bowler Brett Lee. I'm Jason Pineeshow producer

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Speaker 2: Andy McDonald. We are talking sport until free. It is

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Speaker 2: a league football derby day in the Capitol Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: the Auckland FC tonight at seven Sky Stadium. Auckland FC

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Speaker 2: won all three derbies last season. Can the Phoenix chalk

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Speaker 2: up a win tonight at home? I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: you inside both camps this afternoon. Wellington Phoenix and All

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Speaker 2: Whites defender Luke Kelly healed us with us. Auckland f

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Speaker 2: C and All Whites fullback Francis Devrees is also on

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Speaker 2: the show and your predictions as well. Can Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: break Auckland f C's derby domination all will the Black

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Speaker 2: Knights win their fourth one on the trot We now

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Speaker 2: for a week walk before to stretch the leagues ahead

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Speaker 2: of the show, and already gold and black colors very

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Speaker 2: much in evidence here on the Capitol. But I also

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Speaker 2: ran into some Auckland FC fans who seemed fairly confident

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Speaker 2: going to zoom in on the derby after one o'clock

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Also the opening match for the Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: Women and their highly anticipated fifth season. They welcome Canberra

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Speaker 2: United the Sky Stadium to open their season from four

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Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon, so big afternoon and evening of football

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Speaker 2: in Wellington. First up on the show today though Test

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Speaker 2: eleven of thirteen this year for the All Blacks. They'll

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Speaker 2: meet Scotland at Murrayfield from ten past four tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: Asked Scotland to check nts to beat the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever. Brad Moore is standing by

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Speaker 2: the chat with us. He has been an assistant coach

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Speaker 2: with both teams, so his insight will be instructional. Former

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Speaker 2: Scotland international Brandon Laney this hour as well, and plenty

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Speaker 2: of time for your thoughts. Do you have any sense

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Speaker 2: of nervousness about this or do you expect a pleasant

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Speaker 2: and relatively relaxing rugby viewing experience tomorrow morning? Lines open

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Speaker 2: on the Rugby this hour. Other matters around today. The

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Speaker 2: black Caps in the West Indies have relocated to Lovely

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Speaker 2: Nelson for games three and four in their five match

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Speaker 2: T twenty series. The black Caps squared the series on

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Speaker 2: Thursday night with a narrow three run win at Eden Park.

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Speaker 2: Mark Chapman seventy eight off twenty eight balls. He absolutely

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Speaker 2: smashed it and took three catches. He's with us ahead

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Speaker 2: of Game three tomorrow. Less than one hundred days until

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Speaker 2: sale gp hits Auckland again February fourteen and fifteen next year.

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Speaker 2: Tickets are already selling fast. It's an expanded grand stand

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Speaker 2: next year as well, so more viewing areas. Blackfoil's flight

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Speaker 2: controller Leo Takahashi on the show today, Back to the football.

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Speaker 2: Former Wellington Phoenix attack at David Williams is with us

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Speaker 2: as looks to the next chapter in his football career.

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Speaker 2: Adam Peacock with Australian Sporting matters as usual, and we'll

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Speaker 2: if it comes in live sport. While we're on the today,

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Speaker 2: Round four of Ford Trophy Cricket is underway. This is

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Speaker 2: the fifty over competition. Northern Districts have won the toss.

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Speaker 2: They're batting first against Canterbury and Hamilton CD batting first

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Speaker 2: against Auckland at Eden Parks out Roval and Otaga have

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Speaker 2: keep you updated on all of those matches. This is

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Speaker 2: your show though to contribute to eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: up eleven past midday when.

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Speaker 3: It's down to the line.

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Speaker 1: You made a call on eight ten eighty weekends for

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Speaker 1: it with Jason Hine.

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Speaker 2: News Talks v All Blacks v. Scotland Tomorrow morning ten

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Speaker 2: past four New Zealand time. You'll get a full commentary

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Speaker 2: here on news Talk, said B the first time these

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Speaker 2: two have played one another since the All Blacks End

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Speaker 2: of Year tour in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: They do kick for touch and the All Blacks survive

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Speaker 4: a heck of a scale once again at Murrayfield, but

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Speaker 2: That game was five days short of three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Just the four survivors from the All Blacks starting fifteen

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Speaker 2: that day who will start again tomorrow morning, Ethan DeGroot,

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Speaker 2: Ardisavier Boden Barrett and Caleb Clark. This is the thirty

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Speaker 2: third meeting between the two all up the Black Apps,

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Speaker 2: That's not the Black Apps. The All Blacks have won

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Speaker 2: thirty of those matches, two draws, the most recent of

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Speaker 2: those draws twenty five, all all the way back in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three. All twenty four matches since then have

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Speaker 2: been won by the All Blacks. A man who can

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Speaker 2: give us a truly unique perspective is former All Blacks

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Speaker 2: assistant coach and former Scotland assistant coach Brad Moore, who

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Speaker 2: joins us. Now, Brad, let's get straight into it. What

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Speaker 2: is Scotland's best strategy for beating the All Blacks for

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Wow, Gay Finy, thanks for thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 6: Privileged to be chatting with you. God, what a cracking

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Speaker 6: game it is lining up to be.

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Speaker 7: My ISAA shining for it. It's two really good sides picked.

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Speaker 6: I think Scotland's mentality at home Murrayfield Special Place, one

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Speaker 6: hundred years of footy there will be highly motivating for

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Speaker 6: them and I think they've picked a really strong side

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Speaker 6: seven British and Irish Lions in the group.

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Speaker 7: I think in the starting fifteen, I think.

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Speaker 6: They'll they'll be looking for that, you know that the

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Speaker 6: Alfred Allen staff position, possession and pace of that that

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Speaker 7: Get that. If they can get parody up.

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Speaker 6: Front, even dominated a little bit, then then that will

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Speaker 6: give them front football to see some very exciting backs

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Speaker 6: do their stuff and play the game that they that

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Speaker 6: they love playing, which is a lot of position, a

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Speaker 6: lot of ball and ball in hand and Finn Russell

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Speaker 6: orchestrating things from ten putting them in the right places.

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Speaker 2: It's such a good summary of everything. So there's a

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Speaker 2: you mentioned there. Can they get forward parity against the

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Look, I think I think so in terms of in

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Speaker 6: that that space. The Scotland line out is some some

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Speaker 6: it's it sort of adds up to some pretty cool

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Speaker 6: Graham the Scotland and Lee Roy and kayliber are not

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Speaker 6: afraid to get amongst either, so it's I think it's

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Speaker 6: there's parity and and that that provides the good front football,

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Speaker 6: then both sides can be very dangerous.

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Speaker 7: I just think it's lying up to be a cracker.

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Speaker 2: Game, absolutely right. Let's talk about Thin Russell. Scotland first five,

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Speaker 2: their pivot, their director. Basically, what makes him such a

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Speaker 7: I absolute student of the game, so.

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Speaker 6: I think, And when I went over to join Scotland,

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Speaker 6: I thought I'd see a mercurial talent, things that where

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Speaker 6: things just happened for him.

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Speaker 7: Well, what I saw is the high talent, awesome skill

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Speaker 6: Game, kicking game, and running game where he just buys

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Speaker 6: of those things in a pretty quick moment.

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Speaker 8: Way.

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Speaker 7: He holds the ball, he buys time off him, so.

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Speaker 6: That there's I thought that around the mercurial talent, and

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Speaker 6: what I saw is that and a massive student of

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Speaker 6: his game, his team's game, and the opposition and game

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Speaker 6: in general. So he sees the pictures really quickly because

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Speaker 6: he's worked earlier during the week to see them already

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Speaker 6: really actually were.

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Speaker 7: In the in the week.

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Speaker 6: By the back end of the week Friday leading into

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Speaker 6: a Saturday game, you actually having a conversation.

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Speaker 7: Mate.

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Speaker 6: You've done plenty, You've done enough, You've got the homework done.

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Speaker 7: Let's go play.

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Speaker 6: So is recalling the game huge, can recall the moments

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Speaker 6: without him having actually sat through it again to have

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Speaker 6: leads to some beautiful point. So really enjoyed working with him,

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Speaker 6: and just saw a guy who works very, very hard

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Speaker 6: the people around him.

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Speaker 2: What kind of coaches Griger Townsend.

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Speaker 6: Very curious, hard working, very passionate about the game and

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Speaker 6: how it can be played. So I see him very

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Speaker 6: optimistic about the game. There's always an opportunity for him

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Speaker 6: and I think he's been really clear with Scotland as

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Speaker 6: to what talent and skill set they've got in their group,

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Speaker 6: and then building that whilst also and then and then

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Speaker 6: adapting a game to suit the player's abilities that they've

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Speaker 6: got so really clear on the identity of the game,

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Speaker 6: curious about how to take that forward, and then builds

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Speaker 6: a week that fits into all of that, and is

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Speaker 6: clear about their connection. What's important is people and then

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Speaker 6: how driving the hard work in between, Like he's puts

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Speaker 6: his shoulder to the well massively and provides a great

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Speaker 2: Is the fact that Scotland have never beaten the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks a motivation or a burden?

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess it can be both, can't It depends

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Speaker 6: on your mindset and approach to that. I think that

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Speaker 6: with this group that will provide a motivation and no

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Speaker 6: doubt the All Blacks will be highly motivated by that

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Speaker 7: It's the motivation for our team too, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: So it's the mindset it's motivated to keep it motivated

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Speaker 6: to breakhead. I'm sure the All Blacks will look to

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Speaker 6: start fast and put the put Scotland into a position

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Speaker 6: of ah shivers, we've been here before and potentially try

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Speaker 6: take the moments You know that test Rugby. The margins

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Speaker 2: I bet there is. Good man, Brad, how you've provided

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Speaker 2: You're joining us. Brad, Thanks and did great insight from you.

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Speaker 2: Brad Moore there, who has been inside both camps, All

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Speaker 2: I think we'll win the game tomorrow morning. I like

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Speaker 2: haven't seen a game, But are you at all nervous?

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Speaker 2: Kiota Piney, says Aiden, still torn as to what time

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Speaker 2: get up, says Aiden, to watch exciting, expensive and entertaining rugby.

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Speaker 2: The All Blacks are clearly taking Scotland more seriously and

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Speaker 2: over us the All Whites. Yes, Hayden's call them. He's

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Speaker 2: don't think Ardie, Wallace and Peter will give him any

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Speaker 2: It's a very good question. Look't you won't get a

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Speaker 2: know it's not live, I just it's just this funny,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to make your decision for you. But

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Speaker 2: I love the way you've laid out your argument. I

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Speaker 2: love that. Henry, Hello mate, he very good, Henry, very good.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling about tomorrow morning?

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Speaker 10: You know, I think I think we've got the mean Tomaine.

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Speaker 10: You know he plays America and you know there was

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Speaker 2: Jason, Yeah, they have been known to look Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I look at the other games they've played as well, Henry.

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Speaker 2: Back in July they played some more in fig they

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Speaker 10: Unless you all backs play really bad, which I don't

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Speaker 2: You know, I think they'll be okay, Henry, I think

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Speaker 2: as when we played Wales later in the year, who

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Speaker 2: have become a bit of a basket case. I think

435
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Speaker 2: Scotland have a bit about them. And listening to Brad

436
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Speaker 2: Moore there, you know, you find yourself nodding year head

437
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Speaker 2: and thinking, okay, well, if everything goes absolutely right for them,

438
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Speaker 2: and it would have to, they could, they could. Lynd says,

439
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Speaker 2: I don't know much about Brad Moore, but what an

440
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Speaker 2: excellent speaker he is. Lynn the All Blacks feat Scotland

441
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Speaker 2: Murrayfield one hundred years, what else could you ask for,

442
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Speaker 2: says this text. Not much, bow says piney traitor bow here,

443
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Speaker 2: I have a forty dollar bed on Scotland to win

444
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Speaker 2: one to twelve and twenty dollars on Scotland to win

445
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Speaker 2: thirteen plus. Mel Gibson will be going up and the

446
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Speaker 2: sideline with his face half blue. Yes, maybe the Brave

447
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Speaker 2: Heart movie will be channeled. Of course. Wallace Certiti, as

448
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Speaker 2: we know, well you may know this or may not

449
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Speaker 2: know this. Wallace Certiti was named after William Wallace, the

450
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Speaker 2: famous Scottish his historic figure shall we call him, made

451
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Speaker 2: famous in the movie starring Mel Gibson. Semo, Wallace's dad,

452
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Speaker 2: of course, was playing rugby in Scotland, and we heard

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Speaker 2: the story during the week. I'm not sure if you

454
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Speaker 2: picked up on this, that that Wallace was well going

455
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Speaker 2: to be born in Scotland, but Wallace's mum had to

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Speaker 2: make a trip back to Samoa where her father had

457
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Speaker 2: taken ill. So Wallace was actually born in Samoa, but

458
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Speaker 2: his dad, Semo, was playing in Scotland at the time

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Speaker 2: and that's where Wallace came from. William Wallace Wallace Titi.

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Speaker 11: You're nervous film, Hey, porny uh not really, that's not

461
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Speaker 11: a bad person to be named after, is it? William Wallace?

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, look, it's it's a proud history. He did.

463
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Speaker 2: He did meet a rather unfortunate end from what I

464
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Speaker 2: from what I understand. But no, no, if you if

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Speaker 2: you're named after some one like that, you know you've

466
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Speaker 2: got well you presumably have a bit about you.

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Speaker 11: Yes you do. Yet No, the end wasn't good, not

468
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Speaker 11: good at all. Yeah, I I I'm in the I'm

469
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Speaker 11: sort of in two minds, like the text that you

470
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Speaker 11: were reading out, wondering whether to get up at four

471
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Speaker 11: o'clock and watch it live or just sort of not

472
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Speaker 11: worry about it, because part of me was kind kind

473
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Speaker 11: of thinking, well, we should do Scotland fairly easily, you know,

474
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Speaker 11: like it shouldn't be too much. I'm reasonably confident. But

475
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Speaker 11: then I was sort of thinking, you know, they've been

476
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Speaker 11: saying it's a hundred year thing for Scotland. There better

477
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Speaker 11: than they have been in the past. And then I

478
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Speaker 11: listened to the fellow that you were talking to at

479
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Speaker 11: the start of the show and he said they've got

480
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Speaker 11: some really good players that played for the British Lines

481
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Speaker 11: and that, and I'm sort of sort of thinking, well,

482
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Speaker 11: really does it work getting up there to have a

483
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Speaker 11: wee sneak peek.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to make the decision for you, Phil,

485
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Speaker 2: I know you'll do the right thing. I reckon what

486
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Speaker 2: you might do. I'm just having I guess here. You

487
00:27:07,307 --> 00:27:09,827
Speaker 2: might set your alarm and see how you feel when

488
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Speaker 2: that alarm goes off.

489
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's probably a good idea. And if I can

490
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Speaker 11: get there, if I can get that first foot out

491
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Speaker 11: of bed straight away, then I'll be right. If I'll

492
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Speaker 11: live there for a couple of minutes, I'll probably just

493
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Speaker 11: drift back off, or five minutes and I'll drift back off.

494
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Speaker 11: But because you got the cricket on as well, isn't

495
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Speaker 11: we to morrow? So to watch the both of them,

496
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Speaker 11: you know, it could be a hard task, will be

497
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Speaker 11: falling asleep during the cricket.

498
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Speaker 2: But I think you'll be okay, Phil, I think someone

499
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Speaker 2: like you will be okay. I know the cut of

500
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Speaker 2: your jib. You'll be fine, mate, You'll be fine. I

501
00:27:36,747 --> 00:27:39,147
Speaker 2: actually had a really good piece of advice once in

502
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Speaker 2: terms of getting up. You know, because often people get

503
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Speaker 2: up and it is the early hours of the morning,

504
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Speaker 2: and they worry about falling asleep on the couch or

505
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Speaker 2: in their armchair or whenever as they watch it. The

506
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Speaker 2: piece of advice I heard was that you get up

507
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Speaker 2: and you put your shoes on without socks. So you

508
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Speaker 2: put shoes on without socks, and it's very very hard,

509
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Speaker 2: apparently to fall asleep with shoes on and no socks,

510
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Speaker 2: because you and I don't know, it just isn't the

511
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Speaker 2: most comfortable of situation. Take the shoes on, those socks.

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Speaker 11: Okay, well, yeah that might be worthing to try. That's

513
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Speaker 11: interest and I've never heard that before, but yeah, okay,

514
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Speaker 11: but yeah, yeah, well yeah, I'd like to say I'm

515
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Speaker 11: going to have to make the call during the days

516
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Speaker 11: I think about it, or maybe just like you say,

517
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Speaker 11: set the alarm and then just make it on the

518
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Speaker 11: on the time when it happens. But I do like,

519
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Speaker 11: I do like the is it to Quintin to tie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quintupire quinta pire Yet he's been center now well

521
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Speaker 2: he's back to second five, where I think we're more

522
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Speaker 2: accustomed to seeing them.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I do like him in that midfield, whether he

524
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Speaker 11: plays center or his usual like you say position there

525
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Speaker 11: so and I like the sound of I always thought

526
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Speaker 11: Ardie Severe is best at number seven, so in the

527
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Speaker 11: number eight and that. So yeah, I like and like

528
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Speaker 11: you said, I watched the Irish game and we were

529
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Speaker 11: flandering about and it was pretty messy for the sixty minutes.

530
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Speaker 11: But when that bench came on, things changed completely. I

531
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Speaker 11: don't know how, Like I think the turning point too,

532
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Speaker 11: was not only the bench players coming on, And I

533
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Speaker 11: didn't even see Damien McKenzie come on until he start,

534
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Speaker 11: until he helped make that try, and it was like, buddy,

535
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Speaker 11: how Damien McKenzie's on. But I don't know how the

536
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Speaker 11: referee seen that ball grounded. I mean, I'm glad that

537
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Speaker 11: you know we got it, but I was looking at

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Speaker 11: it and it kind of looked like he might have

539
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Speaker 11: got either just over the line with that little shove

540
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Speaker 11: or a little go forward or either on the line.

541
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Speaker 11: But I was looking at it thinking I can't I

542
00:29:49,067 --> 00:29:51,467
Speaker 11: don't know how the hell you can tell that bull's

543
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Speaker 11: actually grounded because I couldn't see it at all, you know.

544
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Speaker 11: So but that was I think that thing to bring

545
00:29:57,827 --> 00:30:01,547
Speaker 11: on a momentum shift as well, where the All Blacks

546
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Speaker 11: kicked up and that, like you say, it was good

547
00:30:03,307 --> 00:30:05,427
Speaker 11: to see that last twenty minutes was going back to

548
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Speaker 11: the all blacks of ball where they would other teams

549
00:30:09,027 --> 00:30:11,187
Speaker 11: would start to fade off and the all backs would

550
00:30:11,227 --> 00:30:13,787
Speaker 11: step it up, you know and put even more pressure

551
00:30:13,827 --> 00:30:18,107
Speaker 11: and that superior fitness would I don't know, I guess

552
00:30:18,107 --> 00:30:20,427
Speaker 11: it was superior fitness with training would come in and

553
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Speaker 11: they would up the intensity even more even though they

554
00:30:24,267 --> 00:30:27,587
Speaker 11: were probably quite bagging and fatigue. But yeah, so that

555
00:30:27,667 --> 00:30:28,347
Speaker 11: was good to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I've got to move make because IVE

557
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Speaker 2: got to get Brendan Laney on the radio. But thanks

558
00:30:32,787 --> 00:30:34,667
Speaker 2: for chatting mate, and no doubt you'll let me know

559
00:30:34,707 --> 00:30:37,027
Speaker 2: tomorrow whether you didn't pack it up and watch it

560
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Speaker 2: live and I'll I'll be interested to find out whether

561
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Speaker 2: you put your whether you put your shoes on without

562
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Speaker 2: your socks. It's a very good tip, mate, I can

563
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Speaker 2: tell you twenty to one when we come back. It

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Speaker 2: is Brendan Laney, former Scotland International, with us.

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Speaker 1: The big Issues on and after Field Call eight hundred

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.

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Speaker 3: Paine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunderholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home Milder news Talk to.

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Speaker 2: BB seventeeny one deb On Texas pinting. I guess you

570
00:31:04,427 --> 00:31:07,027
Speaker 2: can only watch sport live because you know that yelling

571
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Speaker 2: at the TV will be effective. It's so true, dep

572
00:31:10,387 --> 00:31:12,947
Speaker 2: It's no port yelling at a replayers there, But if

573
00:31:12,947 --> 00:31:15,627
Speaker 2: you're yelling at live sport, you can have an influence.

574
00:31:16,307 --> 00:31:18,067
Speaker 2: That's why we keep doing it. Thanks for your text.

575
00:31:18,107 --> 00:31:20,867
Speaker 2: Love it. Let's bring in former Scottish international Brendan Laney

576
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Speaker 2: cleared by Callagher for Leslie.

577
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Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure which way to go finds.

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Speaker 12: Lady through that gap and Brendan.

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Speaker 13: Laney, Hey, yawning gap, lady, Lady, lady under the bar,

580
00:31:36,707 --> 00:31:39,147
Speaker 13: the unlid, beautiful pass over to lady.

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Speaker 2: Can you make your two?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Those are some of us tries back here in New

584
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Speaker 2: Zealand twenty Test matches though for Scotland for Brandon Laney, Briton,

585
00:31:48,307 --> 00:31:50,787
Speaker 2: how big a chance do you think your former side

586
00:31:50,827 --> 00:31:53,707
Speaker 2: Scotland are or finally beating the All Blacks for the

587
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Speaker 2: first time tomorrow morning?

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Speaker 8: Well, look at I think anybody's sitting here, what's the

589
00:31:59,267 --> 00:32:02,267
Speaker 8: New Blacks fish performance against Orland? And look I know

590
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Speaker 8: it was two or three or three or four weeks

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Speaker 8: between games. You know that first fifty minutes was pretty

592
00:32:08,587 --> 00:32:12,107
Speaker 8: bloody scrappy, wasn't it? And I think everyone was pretty

593
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Speaker 8: disappointed with it. But then saying that, you know a

594
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Speaker 8: couple of things that the Orbrecks did, they did really well.

595
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Speaker 8: This's got a couple of really nice schwiz bar Ford

596
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Speaker 8: pass at the end probably could have scored another one.

597
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Speaker 8: So there's potential there to show that when they get

598
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Speaker 8: going there, they're really dangerous. So but in saying that,

599
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Speaker 8: you know, Scotland's come off a fantastic test against America.

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Speaker 8: No to speak to America either, but probably not the

601
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Speaker 8: biggest opposition led into an all breat game. But you

602
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Speaker 8: know the scott his team has been playing for rugby

603
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Speaker 8: for a while now and began history is there to

604
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Speaker 8: be broken. Isn't it twenty odd years or so that

605
00:32:50,747 --> 00:32:54,907
Speaker 8: they had never beaten the Allbreacks. So it's it's a

606
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Speaker 8: fantastic opportunity for them. And I know that Gregortans in

607
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Speaker 8: more personally, I love the way that they He's got

608
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Speaker 8: his team attacking and and you know they've got some

609
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Speaker 8: pretty many footballers in this sort so even with dropping venom,

610
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Speaker 8: so yeah, it's going to be really interesting, isn't that.

611
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Speaker 2: Can we talk about a couple of those fairly handy

612
00:33:15,267 --> 00:33:18,427
Speaker 2: players Finn Russell and see on twoep a lot to

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Speaker 2: the ten twelve axis. How crucial might that be?

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Speaker 14: Oh? Messive? But but look it's like anything, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: If if the Fords don't do their job, then it's

616
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Speaker 8: going to be bloody hard for ten and twelve in

617
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Speaker 8: nine for that matter, to really get gone. But I

618
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Speaker 8: think Finn's a real confidence player too. When he's on

619
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Speaker 8: the front foot and has gone well, he can be

620
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Speaker 8: absolutely real class.

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Speaker 14: So you know, I love watching him play.

622
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Speaker 8: He's one of those guys that that kids you excited

623
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Speaker 8: every time you see him get the ball because you

624
00:33:49,227 --> 00:33:51,347
Speaker 8: think what's he going to do to a plot? He's

625
00:33:51,387 --> 00:33:52,347
Speaker 8: made every post to win.

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Speaker 14: He played outstandingly well on the lines to it, didn't he?

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Speaker 8: And the other thing with that is they're going to

628
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Speaker 8: bring that experience back into back into the to the

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Speaker 8: max for Scotland as well. So and and you add

630
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Speaker 8: that the hundred years of Murrayfield, which is just an

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Speaker 8: unbelievable stadium.

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00:34:13,947 --> 00:34:15,587
Speaker 14: There's going to be a massive crowd.

633
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Speaker 8: Everyone gets excited about the All Blacks being in town,

634
00:34:18,747 --> 00:34:22,547
Speaker 8: but this is just another step up. They've had you know,

635
00:34:22,667 --> 00:34:26,507
Speaker 8: rugby awards over the are with with all the old

636
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Speaker 8: players and the end of you know, put a few

637
00:34:30,307 --> 00:34:32,747
Speaker 8: of the older boys into the Hall of Fame. So

638
00:34:32,787 --> 00:34:35,227
Speaker 8: they've been there's been a really big week leading up

639
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Speaker 8: to this Test and and I know I know for

640
00:34:38,467 --> 00:34:40,827
Speaker 8: a fact that those two players in particular are going

641
00:34:40,907 --> 00:34:44,267
Speaker 8: to be bloody key for Scotland performing. But it's like

642
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Speaker 8: anything when you play the All Blacks, you can't make

643
00:34:46,667 --> 00:34:49,227
Speaker 8: a lot of mistakes because they punish you and that's

644
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Speaker 8: what Test rugby is all about to you.

645
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Speaker 2: And you're also right to land on the forwards, even

646
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Speaker 2: as a former back yourself. I mean, Fords will tell

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Speaker 2: you it all starts up front. How do you evaluate

648
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Speaker 2: Scotland's ability to match it with the All Blacks physically

649
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Speaker 2: in those forward exchanges.

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Speaker 14: I don't think I'll be afraid of it. Put their way,

651
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Speaker 14: they've been.

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Speaker 8: They've been really really good upfront against some of the

653
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Speaker 8: other swordes, particularly in the Six Nations. Now they're coming

654
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Speaker 8: up against France and obviously England as well, and they've

655
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Speaker 8: put on some bloody good performances and beatn them as well,

656
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Speaker 8: So they're not afraid of that part.

657
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Speaker 14: They've got some big players.

658
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Speaker 8: They've got guys who are not also playing in Scotland

659
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Speaker 8: but also then in the Premiership as well, and guys

660
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Speaker 8: playing in France, so they'll they'll be not afraid to

661
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Speaker 8: mix it up. I suppose it's like anything, you know.

662
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Speaker 8: I don't think they'll probably try and take them on physically.

663
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Speaker 8: I think they'll try and move the NewView Zealand around it.

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Speaker 8: But because of the way in the last three while

665
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Speaker 8: that Scotland's been playing, they know they're not going to

666
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Speaker 8: best the all blecks up up front.

667
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Speaker 14: They're just not but to move them around a bit and.

668
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Speaker 8: Get them, get them moving, and I think that's how

669
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Speaker 8: they'll play them because if they do try and take

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Speaker 8: them on up front and beat them up, they just

671
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Speaker 8: won't do that. So I think they're going to go

672
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Speaker 8: to their strengths and that is moving the ball because

673
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Speaker 8: they've got some guys in their background, particularly uh a

674
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Speaker 8: bloody good ball in hand, so mixed up with the

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Speaker 8: guys in the midfield, I really enjoy that. The outside

676
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Speaker 8: bets for Scotland as well, they're not afraid to throw

677
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Speaker 8: the ball around, so I think it just makes a

678
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Speaker 8: real good mix and that's a bit exciting.

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Speaker 2: How do you think Scotland coach Gregor Townsend is regarded

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Speaker 2: by Scottish rugby fans.

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Speaker 14: I think there's a mix. He's probably caught that his

682
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Speaker 14: whole bloody life.

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Speaker 8: For Paul Bugger well, I think guys a fantastic rugby player,

684
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Speaker 8: he was probably a Mercuriel was probably one of the

685
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Speaker 8: ones he could call him. He was he could do

686
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Speaker 8: things that does no one else could do and then

687
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Speaker 8: other times that it didn't go so great for him

688
00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:52,787
Speaker 8: say look, I know, I know, I've been there, done that.

689
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Speaker 8: When it comes to that as well, not everything comes off.

690
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Speaker 8: But as a coach, I think he's you know, the

691
00:37:00,267 --> 00:37:03,747
Speaker 8: hard part about coaching is you're not everyone's friend, and

692
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Speaker 8: particularly in the team, you've got to make some bloody

693
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Speaker 8: tough calls, which he obviously has this week week in

694
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Speaker 8: with Vandermere because he obviously gets one of them really well.

695
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Speaker 8: But I just like the way that he likes to

696
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Speaker 8: attack and he's done that with this team. They've they've

697
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Speaker 8: thrown the ball around, they've given the ball here, they're

698
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Speaker 8: not afraid to cross kicks. He's had to mend a

699
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Speaker 8: relationship with Finn Russell as well, which he seems to

700
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Speaker 8: have so you know, from from a from a coaching

701
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Speaker 8: point of view, I think Gregor has probably.

702
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Speaker 14: Learned a lot on the way as well.

703
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Speaker 8: And I know he's taken on another week roll here

704
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Speaker 8: and there's been a few people who are not very

705
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Speaker 8: happy about their part. But look, I think he's done

706
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Speaker 8: a really good job with Scotland and and and.

707
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Speaker 14: You know he's very invested in it.

708
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Speaker 8: You know, he's been doing it quite a while now

709
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Speaker 8: and he loves Scottish rugby so and he's a good

710
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Speaker 8: fellow a journey, he's a top men.

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Speaker 14: So I hope he does well.

712
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Speaker 2: And you mentioned murray Field and their one hundred year

713
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Speaker 2: celebration this weekend. What's it like to play in Murrayfield, Brander?

714
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Speaker 2: What's it like as a rugby arena?

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Speaker 14: Awesome? It is very very cool.

716
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Speaker 8: I've been lucky enough to play at Caresbrook, I've been

717
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Speaker 8: lucky enough to play in the Star Front say I'm

718
00:38:16,547 --> 00:38:18,867
Speaker 8: lucky enough to play in Wales in the millionum stadium.

719
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Speaker 8: But there's just something just something about Murrayfield, and one

720
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Speaker 8: sort of the field's really really really closer if you're

721
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Speaker 8: throwing the balling or you're standing on the wing. The

722
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Speaker 8: people are pretty much about ten meters away the other

723
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Speaker 8: side of the field. Obviously there's a running track, but

724
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Speaker 8: still with boys. But everything it's just quite on top

725
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Speaker 8: of you. And I'll tell you what. When the loane

726
00:38:41,707 --> 00:38:45,107
Speaker 8: pipe is up on top piping he and you've got

727
00:38:45,147 --> 00:38:48,907
Speaker 8: to sing the national anthem, Flare of Scotland, I'll tell

728
00:38:48,907 --> 00:38:51,627
Speaker 8: you what. And then the whole place goes quiet and

729
00:38:52,067 --> 00:38:55,107
Speaker 8: all you hear singing. It really makes the he's on

730
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Speaker 8: the becky next stand up. And I know that the

731
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Speaker 8: all black boys will be sitting there enjoying that part

732
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Speaker 8: as well.

733
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Speaker 14: But it's pretty hostile and prom and I know that.

734
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Speaker 2: How fondly do you remember be your time playing rugby

735
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Speaker 2: for Scotland?

736
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Speaker 8: Do you know one thing? It was a bloody long

737
00:39:11,507 --> 00:39:15,347
Speaker 8: time ago, That's what I do. I'm starting to feel

738
00:39:15,387 --> 00:39:18,027
Speaker 8: bloody old, but look I look it was. I was

739
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Speaker 8: really really lucky. I I was extremely proud to pull

740
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Speaker 8: on the Scottish jersey and represent my grandmother and my

741
00:39:26,787 --> 00:39:31,107
Speaker 8: my mom's sort of my family and and I gave

742
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Speaker 8: it my I gave it my all, put of their way.

743
00:39:33,227 --> 00:39:36,707
Speaker 8: I got heaps and I was extremely lucky to be

744
00:39:36,747 --> 00:39:39,467
Speaker 8: able to play test rugby, and I never thought I'd

745
00:39:39,467 --> 00:39:42,147
Speaker 8: played Test rugby at all, let alone played twenty testa metches.

746
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Speaker 8: So I was involved in some fantastic victories. I took

747
00:39:45,987 --> 00:39:48,267
Speaker 8: a few hidings as well, to be fear, but I

748
00:39:48,307 --> 00:39:52,387
Speaker 8: wouldn't change the thing. It was absolutely outstanding and and

749
00:39:52,867 --> 00:39:56,227
Speaker 8: you know, there's just something about Test rugby that makes

750
00:39:56,267 --> 00:40:00,107
Speaker 8: it very very cool. And a small, small guy, a

751
00:40:00,147 --> 00:40:02,307
Speaker 8: guy from a small town of Tomoka. I never thought

752
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Speaker 8: I'd be playing in the middle of Marryfield, so I

753
00:40:05,827 --> 00:40:06,347
Speaker 8: was very lucky.

754
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Speaker 14: I had a great time now, brilliant.

755
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Speaker 2: I don't think it was luck, Brendan, I don't think

756
00:40:10,067 --> 00:40:12,267
Speaker 2: it was luck. Great to chat you make. Get the

757
00:40:12,307 --> 00:40:15,027
Speaker 2: alarm set for four o'clock tomorrow morning, look forward to

758
00:40:15,067 --> 00:40:16,067
Speaker 2: seeing how it plays out.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, good stuff. Enjoy the Test.

760
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Speaker 2: You've enjoyed the Test too, Brendan. Thanks indeed, Brendan Laney there,

761
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Speaker 2: former Scotland international, with his views Susan on text. I

762
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Speaker 2: plan for the weekend. Up at three forty five tomorrow,

763
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Speaker 2: Potter tea to watch the All Black Scotland, then back

764
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Speaker 2: to bed for an hour and a half, then back

765
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Speaker 2: up with coffee for South Africa, E France and Paris

766
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Speaker 2: at nine and then onto the cricket. Susan that's the spirit. See,

767
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Speaker 2: that's the spirit. None of this recording it and getting

768
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Speaker 2: up later to watch it. Had a text through four

769
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Speaker 2: said someone once told me that if it's not live,

770
00:40:46,787 --> 00:40:51,867
Speaker 2: it's dead. Watch it live. Well, listen, it's on the radio.

771
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Speaker 2: Just get that under your pillow. Seven to one News

772
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Speaker 2: talks EDB.

773
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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world

774
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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Pie and they call eight

775
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighties eighty News talks EDB.

776
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Speaker 2: Four to one. Graham asked on text, what's the injury

777
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Speaker 2: cover for number twelve? Graham, that's a very good question.

778
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Speaker 2: If Quintapie was to get injured, who would go to

779
00:41:14,067 --> 00:41:18,707
Speaker 2: second five? I presume Leicester Fightinger and Nuku would. Billy

780
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Speaker 2: Proctor has played a bit of twelve, but yeah, there's

781
00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:25,187
Speaker 2: no obvious cover at twelve with Jordi not there. Obviously

782
00:41:25,267 --> 00:41:27,547
Speaker 2: he would have started, but he's not even playing fullback.

783
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Speaker 2: To come in to twelve, Graham, you ask a very

784
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Speaker 2: pertinent question, what is the injury cover at twelve? Hopefully

785
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Speaker 2: find out after one we zoom in on the A

786
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Speaker 2: League Derby.

787
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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

788
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Speaker 1: on and after fields.

789
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Speaker 3: It's all on winter and sport with Jason Vane on

790
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Speaker 3: your home of sport in New York.

791
00:41:51,227 --> 00:41:53,867
Speaker 2: All one oh seven six hours away from kickoff in

792
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Speaker 2: the A League Men's derby Wellington Phoenix Auckland the FC

793
00:41:57,987 --> 00:42:01,427
Speaker 2: Sky Stadium at four o'clock this afternoon. The Wellington Phoenix

794
00:42:01,467 --> 00:42:03,787
Speaker 2: women are in action for the first time of the season.

795
00:42:04,227 --> 00:42:07,907
Speaker 2: Huge anticipation around about the team. You heard CJ Bott

796
00:42:07,947 --> 00:42:11,387
Speaker 2: there in our Sports News captain of the site this afternoon. Anyway,

797
00:42:11,467 --> 00:42:13,787
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the long term plan is, but

798
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Speaker 2: she's certainly captain for today. Bev Priestman is the coach,

799
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Speaker 2: highly credentialed. Lots of news signings. Looking as much forward

800
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Speaker 2: actually to the women's game at four as I am

801
00:42:27,667 --> 00:42:30,947
Speaker 2: to the men's at seven. Our weather report from Wellington

802
00:42:30,947 --> 00:42:34,587
Speaker 2: I can tell you fine northally's becoming a bit stronger.

803
00:42:34,627 --> 00:42:38,867
Speaker 2: It says current temperature sixteen degrees in the Capitol. Just

804
00:42:38,907 --> 00:42:41,787
Speaker 2: scrolling your head to kick off time in the men's game,

805
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Speaker 2: fifteen degrees twenty k northerly. No, rain's going to be

806
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Speaker 2: a Cracker, get inside both camps for you shortly. Francis

807
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Speaker 2: Devreese standing by the chapter of us out of Auckland FC.

808
00:42:53,827 --> 00:42:56,907
Speaker 2: Lucas Kelly healed from the Phoenix your predictions as well,

809
00:42:56,947 --> 00:43:02,747
Speaker 2: Phoenix fans, Auckland FC fans football fans. Hey Piney says

810
00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:05,667
Speaker 2: this text less. I forget the silver Ferns playing Scotland

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Speaker 2: as well. Yep, it's Monday morning, five o'clock. Monday morning,

812
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Speaker 2: five o'clock. Looking forward to that one afternoon, Jason says, Mark,

813
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Speaker 2: I'll be up watching and keeping tabs on my beloved

814
00:43:17,507 --> 00:43:21,747
Speaker 2: Rochdale in the National League Rochdale. I had to check

815
00:43:21,747 --> 00:43:24,827
Speaker 2: the National League table Mark to see where Rochdale are third.

816
00:43:25,347 --> 00:43:28,427
Speaker 2: This is the one below League two, so the fifth

817
00:43:28,467 --> 00:43:34,267
Speaker 2: tier of English football. Rochdale third on the table, just

818
00:43:34,307 --> 00:43:37,507
Speaker 2: two points off the top. So Mark Older, keep tabs

819
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Speaker 2: on Rochdale as I know you will across the next

820
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Speaker 2: few months or so, just updoating you on Ford Trophy

821
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Speaker 2: cricket from around the traps before we move on. At

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Speaker 2: the outer oval of eden Park, Kennard's higher community Oval

823
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Speaker 2: to give it its correct name, Central two hundred and

824
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Speaker 2: ten for two and the thirty sixth over batting first

825
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Speaker 2: against Auckland, Brad Schuleman eighty five not out, well Young

826
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Speaker 2: made fifty earlier. Tom Bruce is there as well on

827
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Speaker 2: twenty s seven of seventeen balls, so see they're looking

828
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Speaker 2: good for a big total there at Eden Park's out

829
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Speaker 2: of oval at Heaton Park and Hamilton Northern District's one

830
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Speaker 2: fifty three for five and the forty third over batting

831
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Speaker 2: first against Canterbury, so making fairly heavy weather of it.

832
00:44:23,307 --> 00:44:26,347
Speaker 2: Robbie o'donnald there though on eighty seven not out and

833
00:44:26,427 --> 00:44:30,267
Speaker 2: at the Base Reserve in Wellington it is Otago won

834
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Speaker 2: seventy nine for five and the thirty ninth over. Stepping

835
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Speaker 2: a look at run scores max two fifty seven. Troy Johnson,

836
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Speaker 2: playing against his former team, is thirty three not out.

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Speaker 2: Pretty young husband has three for thirty nine of his

838
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Speaker 2: ten overs. We'll keep you updated on on Ford Trophy

839
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Speaker 2: cricket across the afternoon. But the first New Zealand eight

840
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Speaker 2: League derby of the season tonight Wellington Phoenix Auckland f

841
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Speaker 2: C sky Stadium, seven o'clock kickoff. Last season it was

842
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Speaker 2: derby domination for Auckland f C. We've had seven and

843
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Speaker 2: a half minutes. I've had a time New Zealand the as.

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Speaker 15: Blue bragging rights for the A leagues, New Boys, breath taken, barnstorming,

845
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Speaker 15: brilliant game of football, electric.

846
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Speaker 2: Blue in the derby.

847
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Speaker 15: There can be absolutely no doubts New Zealand football is

848
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Speaker 15: blue and black.

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Speaker 2: Auckland FC have tol verized Wellington Phoenix today. That was

850
00:45:43,507 --> 00:45:46,267
Speaker 2: last season two nil, two to one, six to one,

851
00:45:46,827 --> 00:45:49,867
Speaker 2: but it is a new season now. Both sides coming

852
00:45:49,947 --> 00:45:53,347
Speaker 2: into the match unbeaten after their first three matches, so

853
00:45:53,427 --> 00:45:55,587
Speaker 2: in pretty good form. We'll get you inside the Phoenix

854
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Speaker 2: camp soon. But Auckland f C and All Whites fallback.

855
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Speaker 2: Francis Devrees is with us on the show. Francis, thanks

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Speaker 2: for your time. What's your overall evaluation before we look

857
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Speaker 2: at tonight Of the first three games of the season

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Speaker 2: for Auckland.

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Speaker 16: FC, it's been a positive start for us. I think

860
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Speaker 16: we've had tough fixtures so it's nice to know that

861
00:46:14,387 --> 00:46:16,147
Speaker 16: we can gel together quickly as a team as we

862
00:46:16,147 --> 00:46:18,147
Speaker 16: did last year, and I think the feeling and the

863
00:46:18,147 --> 00:46:21,307
Speaker 16: squad is good, so I'm definitely looking forward to the

864
00:46:21,307 --> 00:46:21,867
Speaker 16: game tonight.

865
00:46:22,147 --> 00:46:25,467
Speaker 2: You've started well defensively, again, just the one goal conceded

866
00:46:25,467 --> 00:46:28,827
Speaker 2: and three matches so far. What is behind this ongoing

867
00:46:29,227 --> 00:46:32,507
Speaker 2: defense of solidity that's become a real hallmark of Auckland FC.

868
00:46:33,587 --> 00:46:34,667
Speaker 2: I think a couple of things.

869
00:46:34,707 --> 00:46:38,347
Speaker 16: Like, obviously, the work rate of the whole team is exceptional.

870
00:46:39,107 --> 00:46:41,067
Speaker 16: I think we see that every week in terms of

871
00:46:41,547 --> 00:46:43,587
Speaker 16: how we press from the front and how much of

872
00:46:43,627 --> 00:46:46,267
Speaker 16: the midfield is to get back and everyone working together.

873
00:46:46,347 --> 00:46:49,587
Speaker 16: So that's the start, and then I think after that

874
00:46:49,667 --> 00:46:52,387
Speaker 16: we have really started to build that as part of

875
00:46:52,547 --> 00:46:54,987
Speaker 16: who we are as a club and people take pride

876
00:46:55,027 --> 00:46:58,067
Speaker 16: in it. So yeah, it's a combination of things. Obviously

877
00:46:58,107 --> 00:46:59,787
Speaker 16: a lot of practice and a lot of hard work,

878
00:46:59,827 --> 00:47:03,827
Speaker 16: but it's extremely positive and a real joy to be

879
00:47:03,907 --> 00:47:04,307
Speaker 16: a part of.

880
00:47:04,627 --> 00:47:06,987
Speaker 2: At the other end, just the three goals in three

881
00:47:07,027 --> 00:47:10,867
Speaker 2: games so far, it's becoming a bit more prolific. Is

882
00:47:10,907 --> 00:47:12,387
Speaker 2: that a work on? Has that been a work on

883
00:47:12,507 --> 00:47:13,547
Speaker 2: for you guys?

884
00:47:14,347 --> 00:47:14,747
Speaker 11: For sure?

885
00:47:14,787 --> 00:47:17,747
Speaker 16: I mean as a footballer individually and as a team,

886
00:47:17,787 --> 00:47:20,787
Speaker 16: you're you're always looking to improve and it's definitely one

887
00:47:20,827 --> 00:47:24,907
Speaker 16: of the areas that we've identified that we can continue

888
00:47:24,907 --> 00:47:28,427
Speaker 16: to improve on and also jail together a little bit more.

889
00:47:29,467 --> 00:47:31,307
Speaker 16: I think you can see there are goals in the team,

890
00:47:31,427 --> 00:47:35,507
Speaker 16: so it's a question of when, not if, And personally

891
00:47:35,547 --> 00:47:38,867
Speaker 16: I'm really looking forward to to seeing who steps up

892
00:47:38,907 --> 00:47:41,507
Speaker 16: and who scores a few crackers like we had last year.

893
00:47:41,587 --> 00:47:45,907
Speaker 16: So hopefully that's something that we can begin to add

894
00:47:45,907 --> 00:47:47,147
Speaker 16: more and more as the season goes on.

895
00:47:47,387 --> 00:47:49,507
Speaker 2: We've got a new target man this season in English

896
00:47:49,547 --> 00:47:52,787
Speaker 2: striker Sam Cosgrove, a real aerial threat. We saw him

897
00:47:52,787 --> 00:47:55,347
Speaker 2: open his account last weekend from one of your crosses

898
00:47:55,387 --> 00:47:58,267
Speaker 2: at set peace time. How much have you worked together

899
00:47:58,467 --> 00:48:01,387
Speaker 2: on set piece and open play delivery the two of

900
00:48:01,427 --> 00:48:04,107
Speaker 2: you specifically, It's been a.

901
00:48:04,027 --> 00:48:06,347
Speaker 16: Bit broken, to be honest, because I mean I've been

902
00:48:06,427 --> 00:48:09,307
Speaker 16: away with New Zealand so much in this preseason, so

903
00:48:09,947 --> 00:48:14,507
Speaker 16: I'd say we're still understanding each other and still figuring

904
00:48:14,547 --> 00:48:16,707
Speaker 16: out how to best connect. But as you saw on

905
00:48:16,747 --> 00:48:19,587
Speaker 16: the weekend, I think it is starting to come together

906
00:48:19,627 --> 00:48:21,947
Speaker 16: and it's always a great feeling to do that in

907
00:48:21,947 --> 00:48:25,027
Speaker 16: front of your home fans. So I think for him

908
00:48:25,227 --> 00:48:28,227
Speaker 16: was obviously a great moment and a lot of pride

909
00:48:28,267 --> 00:48:31,547
Speaker 16: in getting his first goal for Auckland and hopefully plenty

910
00:48:31,587 --> 00:48:33,707
Speaker 16: more to come. And whether they're off my boot for

911
00:48:33,707 --> 00:48:36,827
Speaker 16: the assist or someone else's It's all good. Like, as

912
00:48:36,867 --> 00:48:41,027
Speaker 16: long as the team is going forwards, I think everybody benefits,

913
00:48:41,067 --> 00:48:43,707
Speaker 16: so we'll be nice to see how he continues his form.

914
00:48:43,787 --> 00:48:46,867
Speaker 2: Like that is Darby week different from a normal A

915
00:48:47,027 --> 00:48:47,587
Speaker 2: league week?

916
00:48:48,627 --> 00:48:50,307
Speaker 9: Do you mean, like in terms of how we prepare

917
00:48:50,307 --> 00:48:50,667
Speaker 9: for it.

918
00:48:50,627 --> 00:48:53,027
Speaker 2: Which is how it feels more than anything. I know

919
00:48:53,067 --> 00:48:55,907
Speaker 2: you probably prepare the same way, but do you do

920
00:48:55,947 --> 00:48:57,907
Speaker 2: you feel a bit different about such a you know,

921
00:48:58,067 --> 00:48:58,947
Speaker 2: such a big game.

922
00:48:59,747 --> 00:49:02,707
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think I think definitely yes, And obviously being

923
00:49:02,707 --> 00:49:04,667
Speaker 16: from New Zealand, it's it's quite a special week to

924
00:49:04,707 --> 00:49:07,907
Speaker 16: be a part of. Like I just want to reiterate again,

925
00:49:08,427 --> 00:49:10,427
Speaker 16: I think it's a fantastic thing for all of New

926
00:49:10,507 --> 00:49:13,827
Speaker 16: Zealand to have two teams in the competition and two

927
00:49:13,907 --> 00:49:19,147
Speaker 16: opportunities for KIV players to step up and show the

928
00:49:19,147 --> 00:49:22,107
Speaker 16: capabilities that we have in this country and more and

929
00:49:22,147 --> 00:49:24,507
Speaker 16: more we're growing as a nation with football, So I

930
00:49:24,507 --> 00:49:27,507
Speaker 16: think this is a super important aspect to it, and

931
00:49:27,547 --> 00:49:29,587
Speaker 16: it definitely makes you excited to play and when you

932
00:49:30,707 --> 00:49:33,627
Speaker 16: have this week of excitement coming up.

933
00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:36,187
Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard your coach Steve Corriker earlier in the

934
00:49:36,227 --> 00:49:38,427
Speaker 2: week and he does not shy away from it at all.

935
00:49:38,467 --> 00:49:40,867
Speaker 2: You know, he is, by the sounds of it anyway,

936
00:49:40,867 --> 00:49:44,987
Speaker 2: embracing the fact that this is an exciting occasion for players,

937
00:49:44,987 --> 00:49:47,627
Speaker 2: for fans, for coaches alike. Is there any danger for

938
00:49:47,627 --> 00:49:52,627
Speaker 2: any of letting, letting the enormity of a game get

939
00:49:52,627 --> 00:49:56,027
Speaker 2: the better of you. Do you have to consciously stay grounded.

940
00:49:57,147 --> 00:49:58,147
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's something.

941
00:49:57,947 --> 00:49:59,707
Speaker 16: That we've spoken about this week as well, and we

942
00:50:00,147 --> 00:50:03,067
Speaker 16: have some good help there with Hamus who works with

943
00:50:03,147 --> 00:50:05,907
Speaker 16: us on our mindset and got a lot of experience

944
00:50:05,907 --> 00:50:08,667
Speaker 16: in the squad well. So it's definitely something to be

945
00:50:08,707 --> 00:50:11,867
Speaker 16: conscious of and something that we have some strategies around

946
00:50:11,907 --> 00:50:15,667
Speaker 16: of how to regulate yourself, how to stay focused, how

947
00:50:15,667 --> 00:50:18,827
Speaker 16: to be composed in those big moments. So looking forward

948
00:50:18,827 --> 00:50:20,747
Speaker 16: to putting that into practice this weekend.

949
00:50:21,307 --> 00:50:23,827
Speaker 2: And you skip of Hierroarchi. Sarki unfortunately is going to

950
00:50:23,827 --> 00:50:25,987
Speaker 2: miss not only this game, but by the sounds of it,

951
00:50:26,027 --> 00:50:28,587
Speaker 2: about six weeks with the hamstring injury he picked up

952
00:50:28,947 --> 00:50:32,947
Speaker 2: last weekend against Adelaide. How big a loss is Hiroki Sarki.

953
00:50:33,787 --> 00:50:35,787
Speaker 9: It is tough for him, tough for us.

954
00:50:36,587 --> 00:50:39,147
Speaker 16: He's obviously a massive player in our team with what

955
00:50:39,227 --> 00:50:43,027
Speaker 16: he brings quality wise and also leadership was although I

956
00:50:43,067 --> 00:50:47,027
Speaker 16: would say when Callen came on, fantastic job, as he

957
00:50:47,067 --> 00:50:50,227
Speaker 16: does every time he plays in my opinion. So again,

958
00:50:50,307 --> 00:50:53,707
Speaker 16: it's another opportunity for a New Zealand player to excel

959
00:50:53,827 --> 00:50:57,267
Speaker 16: in the league and no doubt he will do that

960
00:50:57,347 --> 00:50:58,707
Speaker 16: as he has done for.

961
00:50:58,747 --> 00:50:59,467
Speaker 17: Us last year.

962
00:50:59,547 --> 00:51:01,587
Speaker 16: So yeah, it's a tough loss, but we also have

963
00:51:02,187 --> 00:51:05,067
Speaker 16: a very capable player coming into that position and someone

964
00:51:05,067 --> 00:51:07,547
Speaker 16: who can really positively impact the game for our team.

965
00:51:07,747 --> 00:51:10,187
Speaker 2: What about in terms of the leadership on the field,

966
00:51:10,227 --> 00:51:12,947
Speaker 2: does Hiroki play a big part there or is that

967
00:51:13,067 --> 00:51:15,667
Speaker 2: more a guy I don't know from the outside, looking

968
00:51:15,867 --> 00:51:17,507
Speaker 2: like Jake Brimmer who seems to be a lot more

969
00:51:17,547 --> 00:51:18,707
Speaker 2: vocal on the grass.

970
00:51:20,587 --> 00:51:21,387
Speaker 18: It's a good question.

971
00:51:21,827 --> 00:51:24,147
Speaker 16: I think it depends a little bit on the game.

972
00:51:24,187 --> 00:51:27,707
Speaker 16: I think we have a lot of leaders within the team.

973
00:51:28,427 --> 00:51:29,467
Speaker 14: Someone who stands.

974
00:51:29,187 --> 00:51:32,587
Speaker 16: Out for me is Dan Hall with how he leads

975
00:51:33,547 --> 00:51:37,107
Speaker 16: just in terms of how he communicates with other players

976
00:51:37,147 --> 00:51:39,947
Speaker 16: on the field, how he sees people, and how he

977
00:51:39,987 --> 00:51:44,147
Speaker 16: makes you feel like trusted and well looked after. So

978
00:51:44,587 --> 00:51:48,347
Speaker 16: that's just one example. There's examples everywhere as well. Obviously,

979
00:51:48,347 --> 00:51:51,387
Speaker 16: Horocki is the man with the armband most games and

980
00:51:51,867 --> 00:51:54,387
Speaker 16: He's the one that is kind of the focal point,

981
00:51:54,427 --> 00:51:56,787
Speaker 16: but I think the leadership has also spread throughout the

982
00:51:56,827 --> 00:52:00,027
Speaker 16: team and that's been one of our strengths last year

983
00:52:00,027 --> 00:52:01,987
Speaker 16: and hopefully to continue this year as well.

984
00:52:02,467 --> 00:52:05,267
Speaker 2: Auckland FC played twenty eight games last season three this

985
00:52:05,387 --> 00:52:09,347
Speaker 2: season the only player to have started every single one

986
00:52:09,347 --> 00:52:12,107
Speaker 2: of those thirty one games. How much do you pride

987
00:52:12,107 --> 00:52:13,907
Speaker 2: yourself on being hard to leave out?

988
00:52:15,307 --> 00:52:15,907
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a.

989
00:52:15,867 --> 00:52:16,747
Speaker 14: Great feeling, obviously.

990
00:52:16,827 --> 00:52:19,307
Speaker 16: I think that the hallmark of a good player, and

991
00:52:19,547 --> 00:52:22,387
Speaker 16: this is what I've believed all my career is consistency

992
00:52:22,547 --> 00:52:26,307
Speaker 16: and being reliable and that kind of comes over time,

993
00:52:26,347 --> 00:52:29,147
Speaker 16: and to see that happening now within this environment is

994
00:52:29,187 --> 00:52:32,307
Speaker 16: pretty special. It's something that I'm really proud of. And

995
00:52:32,987 --> 00:52:34,867
Speaker 16: you know, when I called Dad after the game and Mum,

996
00:52:34,907 --> 00:52:38,307
Speaker 16: they're stoked about it too. So it's just really nice

997
00:52:38,347 --> 00:52:41,987
Speaker 16: to be contributing and to be able to pass on

998
00:52:42,027 --> 00:52:44,747
Speaker 16: those great memories to the people that you care about.

999
00:52:45,787 --> 00:52:48,387
Speaker 16: So yeah, it's a really big point of pride for sure.

1000
00:52:48,747 --> 00:52:51,507
Speaker 2: And after this game International Window you jump on a

1001
00:52:51,507 --> 00:52:53,627
Speaker 2: plane to the United States for the All White's latest

1002
00:52:53,627 --> 00:52:57,187
Speaker 2: Window matches against Columbia and Ecuador. You've started the last

1003
00:52:57,267 --> 00:53:01,347
Speaker 2: four matches for New Zealand. You're starting to feel as

1004
00:53:01,347 --> 00:53:04,587
Speaker 2: though next year's World Cup is really solidifying for you

1005
00:53:04,667 --> 00:53:07,147
Speaker 2: as a squad. Are you going to be a part

1006
00:53:07,187 --> 00:53:09,067
Speaker 2: of I don't think so.

1007
00:53:09,107 --> 00:53:09,507
Speaker 14: Not yet.

1008
00:53:09,507 --> 00:53:12,027
Speaker 16: I mean there's a bit of baggage there with obviously

1009
00:53:12,107 --> 00:53:15,067
Speaker 16: after the last qualifiers that's when I did my ACL

1010
00:53:15,187 --> 00:53:17,547
Speaker 16: so I kind of know, you know that at one

1011
00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:20,267
Speaker 16: small moment kind of changed everything for me in my

1012
00:53:20,347 --> 00:53:23,027
Speaker 16: career and what I thought might happen and didn't end

1013
00:53:23,067 --> 00:53:26,067
Speaker 16: up happening, So I'm definitely not taking it for granted.

1014
00:53:26,107 --> 00:53:30,547
Speaker 16: And also again back to the consistency thing is that's

1015
00:53:30,627 --> 00:53:32,667
Speaker 16: kind of what you want to show, is that there's

1016
00:53:32,667 --> 00:53:35,027
Speaker 16: no guarantees in football. In week to week things can

1017
00:53:35,107 --> 00:53:38,107
Speaker 16: change so quickly. So now it would just be obviously

1018
00:53:38,187 --> 00:53:41,667
Speaker 16: stoked to be included and looking forward to hopefully contributing

1019
00:53:41,667 --> 00:53:44,187
Speaker 16: a bit more on this tour and sharing the dressing

1020
00:53:44,267 --> 00:53:46,347
Speaker 16: room with some of the great players we have with

1021
00:53:46,387 --> 00:53:48,507
Speaker 16: you your ways, but the big focus will be on

1022
00:53:48,627 --> 00:53:52,107
Speaker 16: staying consistent throughout the season and being able to play

1023
00:53:52,107 --> 00:53:53,067
Speaker 16: a role where I can.

1024
00:53:53,587 --> 00:53:55,707
Speaker 2: And just to finish, you know, eighteen months ago you

1025
00:53:55,747 --> 00:53:58,027
Speaker 2: hadn't signed for Auckland FC. You didn't have a club.

1026
00:53:58,067 --> 00:54:00,467
Speaker 2: I'm sure you had irons in the fire, Auckland FC

1027
00:54:00,667 --> 00:54:03,507
Speaker 2: being one of them. But to the last eighteen months

1028
00:54:03,707 --> 00:54:06,547
Speaker 2: or how do the last eighteen months feel for you?

1029
00:54:07,867 --> 00:54:11,827
Speaker 16: They feel, they feel good. It's a lot of emotions

1030
00:54:11,867 --> 00:54:14,427
Speaker 16: with the last eighteen months. It's hard to describe, but

1031
00:54:15,147 --> 00:54:19,547
Speaker 16: I think it's something that I knew internally.

1032
00:54:19,067 --> 00:54:19,987
Speaker 9: I was capable of.

1033
00:54:20,067 --> 00:54:22,347
Speaker 16: But of course you have to have other people believing

1034
00:54:22,347 --> 00:54:25,427
Speaker 16: in you too, and and you know, my partner at home, LUSA.

1035
00:54:25,347 --> 00:54:27,027
Speaker 19: Was was always like that.

1036
00:54:26,987 --> 00:54:30,747
Speaker 16: Ever since we left Sweden and gave up professional football there,

1037
00:54:30,787 --> 00:54:32,227
Speaker 16: like she's been a massive support to me.

1038
00:54:32,307 --> 00:54:33,067
Speaker 14: And then to have.

1039
00:54:33,307 --> 00:54:36,547
Speaker 16: Orkanically start up with all the people involved has been

1040
00:54:36,587 --> 00:54:40,427
Speaker 16: pretty special to to just see what everyone here is

1041
00:54:40,427 --> 00:54:43,867
Speaker 16: capable of. Like I know, like my story is an

1042
00:54:43,867 --> 00:54:46,547
Speaker 16: obvious one with playing for Suburbs and then coming here

1043
00:54:46,867 --> 00:54:49,787
Speaker 16: from amateur to professional, but there's a few other boys,

1044
00:54:49,827 --> 00:54:54,307
Speaker 16: like for example, Missy Randall similar situation. He's now expelling

1045
00:54:54,347 --> 00:54:57,107
Speaker 16: for US and has been great when he's been doing

1046
00:54:57,147 --> 00:54:59,147
Speaker 16: the new zone set up as well. So it's just

1047
00:54:59,187 --> 00:55:02,027
Speaker 16: a great pathway for New Zealand players and I guess

1048
00:55:02,067 --> 00:55:03,067
Speaker 16: that's what this weekend is.

1049
00:55:02,987 --> 00:55:03,627
Speaker 2: All about as well.

1050
00:55:03,627 --> 00:55:07,267
Speaker 16: Hopefully there'll be lots of young kids watching and regardless

1051
00:55:07,307 --> 00:55:09,627
Speaker 16: of who they support, seeing that there is a passway

1052
00:55:09,667 --> 00:55:12,227
Speaker 16: for young new zeone players now and they could be

1053
00:55:12,267 --> 00:55:13,187
Speaker 16: part of that in the future.

1054
00:55:13,467 --> 00:55:16,747
Speaker 2: Absolutely always love chatting football with your Francis or the

1055
00:55:16,747 --> 00:55:18,867
Speaker 2: best in the derby tonight, mate, Thanks for taking the time.

1056
00:55:19,387 --> 00:55:20,107
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1057
00:55:20,147 --> 00:55:20,387
Speaker 6: Mate.

1058
00:55:21,387 --> 00:55:22,707
Speaker 16: Entro the conversation, thank.

1059
00:55:22,547 --> 00:55:24,467
Speaker 2: You very much, No, thank you for joining us Francis.

1060
00:55:24,507 --> 00:55:27,227
Speaker 2: Francis Devverice there out of the Auckland FC camp. What

1061
00:55:27,307 --> 00:55:30,627
Speaker 2: a revelation. He's been incredible, you know, I mean a

1062
00:55:30,707 --> 00:55:34,187
Speaker 2: year and a half ago, a lot of sports fans

1063
00:55:34,307 --> 00:55:37,107
Speaker 2: and even some football fans weren't really they're aware of

1064
00:55:37,147 --> 00:55:39,787
Speaker 2: Francis Devericse. But what a season last year and he

1065
00:55:39,827 --> 00:55:42,507
Speaker 2: started again in the same way dropped that ball on

1066
00:55:42,547 --> 00:55:45,027
Speaker 2: the head of Sam Cosgrove last week for the opening

1067
00:55:45,067 --> 00:55:47,667
Speaker 2: goal against Adelaide United. Here'll be a threat up and

1068
00:55:47,707 --> 00:55:51,507
Speaker 2: down the left hand side again at Sky Stadium this evening.

1069
00:55:52,027 --> 00:55:56,827
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty Phoenix fans, how are

1070
00:55:56,867 --> 00:56:00,827
Speaker 2: you feeling about your side's ability to break this Auckland

1071
00:56:00,867 --> 00:56:05,547
Speaker 2: FC derby domination. It was slim pickings last year. Just

1072
00:56:05,667 --> 00:56:09,027
Speaker 2: two goals in what two hundred and seventy minutes? WHI

1073
00:56:09,027 --> 00:56:11,267
Speaker 2: it's that four and a half hours, two goals and

1074
00:56:11,307 --> 00:56:13,907
Speaker 2: four and a half hours of football against Auckland f

1075
00:56:13,987 --> 00:56:18,867
Speaker 2: C last season, three straight defeats they scored Auckland f C.

1076
00:56:19,027 --> 00:56:23,627
Speaker 2: That is ten goals in your net, Phoenix fans. Can

1077
00:56:23,667 --> 00:56:27,907
Speaker 2: you sense this afternoon that that is going to stop?

1078
00:56:28,067 --> 00:56:34,067
Speaker 2: Auckland FC fans? Are you just confident that this domination

1079
00:56:34,187 --> 00:56:36,507
Speaker 2: will continue? Let's take some calls on the football. Oh,

1080
00:56:36,507 --> 00:56:39,267
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number nine

1081
00:56:39,387 --> 00:56:41,787
Speaker 2: two ninety two. If you would prefer to send us

1082
00:56:41,787 --> 00:56:44,827
Speaker 2: a text. Macusays, pinety sixteen degrees in Wellington? You kidding me?

1083
00:56:45,387 --> 00:56:47,987
Speaker 2: You should take them away games to the Mighty Hawks Bay.

1084
00:56:48,507 --> 00:56:51,267
Speaker 2: It's twenty seven here at the moment. Thanks macup. Always

1085
00:56:51,267 --> 00:56:53,507
Speaker 2: good to get your weather reports. Paul says Ponty, where

1086
00:56:53,507 --> 00:56:57,507
Speaker 2: are family divided? Today? Myself and one son are wearing

1087
00:56:57,507 --> 00:56:59,747
Speaker 2: our Phoenix shirts. My wife and other son are kitted

1088
00:56:59,787 --> 00:57:02,787
Speaker 2: out in near Auckland f SEA shirts. A lot of

1089
00:57:02,827 --> 00:57:05,587
Speaker 2: strange looks when we're out in public this morning. I'm

1090
00:57:05,627 --> 00:57:08,227
Speaker 2: picking a Phoenix three to one win with a late

1091
00:57:08,267 --> 00:57:11,027
Speaker 2: goal on the counter to sell it. Thank you Paul

1092
00:57:12,227 --> 00:57:15,667
Speaker 2: text here. Please tell Francis that watching him play is

1093
00:57:15,787 --> 00:57:19,187
Speaker 2: a real treat. Our family thinks he is an awesome player,

1094
00:57:19,227 --> 00:57:22,587
Speaker 2: one of a kind. Yeah, you're right there. And from

1095
00:57:22,667 --> 00:57:24,787
Speaker 2: Vicky Jason. I love the signings the Phoenix have made,

1096
00:57:24,867 --> 00:57:27,747
Speaker 2: especially upfront. I think they might have the edge over

1097
00:57:27,787 --> 00:57:29,867
Speaker 2: Auckland this season. Can't wait to watch the game tonight.

1098
00:57:30,267 --> 00:57:34,627
Speaker 2: Also absolutely pumped to watch the Phoenix women. Apparently Bev

1099
00:57:34,707 --> 00:57:37,827
Speaker 2: Priestman has done a brilliant job. They're fit, which is

1100
00:57:37,827 --> 00:57:40,187
Speaker 2: the key to success, so bring it on. I was

1101
00:57:40,227 --> 00:57:43,147
Speaker 2: in and around the final training session for the Wellington

1102
00:57:43,147 --> 00:57:46,627
Speaker 2: Phoenix Women yesterday just before they did their media and

1103
00:57:48,547 --> 00:57:52,747
Speaker 2: it was a vibe. There was a buzz around that team.

1104
00:57:53,907 --> 00:57:56,507
Speaker 2: Beef Priestman has come in and we all know the backstory, don't.

1105
00:57:56,507 --> 00:57:59,667
Speaker 2: We have Beef Priestman, but she is a high quality,

1106
00:58:00,227 --> 00:58:05,307
Speaker 2: highly credentialed football coach and she has got that team fizzing.

1107
00:58:05,987 --> 00:58:11,467
Speaker 2: That weremen's team. They've made some terrific signings, both current

1108
00:58:11,467 --> 00:58:17,787
Speaker 2: football ferns, some really impressive imports. They look the real deal.

1109
00:58:18,307 --> 00:58:20,547
Speaker 2: Of course, you've got to put it out on the grass.

1110
00:58:21,267 --> 00:58:26,147
Speaker 2: But they have been building nicely and this afternoon at

1111
00:58:26,147 --> 00:58:30,347
Speaker 2: four o'clock they get their first crack against Canberra United.

1112
00:58:30,427 --> 00:58:34,267
Speaker 2: So Camber United against the Phoenix women at four, Wellington

1113
00:58:34,307 --> 00:58:41,947
Speaker 2: Phoenix men against Auckland FC at seven tonight. Brilliant sports

1114
00:58:42,027 --> 00:58:46,147
Speaker 2: leader that footballer from Auckland FC says this text. He

1115
00:58:46,227 --> 00:58:50,067
Speaker 2: spoke awesomely inspiring even for a fifty one year old

1116
00:58:50,107 --> 00:58:54,107
Speaker 2: single dad trying to get fits. Francis de Reese is

1117
00:58:54,107 --> 00:58:57,627
Speaker 2: a special guy, really quite a special human being. He's

1118
00:58:57,627 --> 00:58:59,507
Speaker 2: been through a lot. It has not been a straight

1119
00:58:59,587 --> 00:59:03,507
Speaker 2: line for Francis of Reese in terms of his football career.

1120
00:59:04,867 --> 00:59:08,427
Speaker 2: He made the national team at a reasonably early age

1121
00:59:08,467 --> 00:59:10,027
Speaker 2: and it all looked like it was going well. Then

1122
00:59:10,027 --> 00:59:12,627
Speaker 2: he went and played in Europe and ended up sort

1123
00:59:12,667 --> 00:59:14,227
Speaker 2: of down the legs a little bit. Then did his

1124
00:59:14,347 --> 00:59:17,587
Speaker 2: ACL didn't have a club. As I understand it, I

1125
00:59:17,627 --> 00:59:20,947
Speaker 2: think I might have told this story before he offered

1126
00:59:20,987 --> 00:59:23,227
Speaker 2: himself to Wellington Phoenix a couple of years ago. He

1127
00:59:23,307 --> 00:59:26,147
Speaker 2: was looking to play professionally before Auckland f C came

1128
00:59:26,187 --> 00:59:28,867
Speaker 2: on the scene, and at that time Wellington Phoenix said no.

1129
00:59:28,947 --> 00:59:31,067
Speaker 2: Note we're okay in your position, thanks for the offer,

1130
00:59:31,107 --> 00:59:33,427
Speaker 2: but we're okay. So he was at the point where

1131
00:59:33,427 --> 00:59:34,987
Speaker 2: he was going to play amateur football, just going to

1132
00:59:34,987 --> 00:59:36,987
Speaker 2: play club stuff and probably do a normal job like

1133
00:59:37,027 --> 00:59:40,267
Speaker 2: the rest of us. But then Auckland f C were formed.

1134
00:59:41,067 --> 00:59:44,667
Speaker 2: Francis Devreze was one of the first players that they signed,

1135
00:59:45,307 --> 00:59:47,427
Speaker 2: and here he is having started every single one of

1136
00:59:47,467 --> 00:59:50,067
Speaker 2: their games, the only player to have done that, and

1137
00:59:50,107 --> 00:59:53,267
Speaker 2: now a pretty rusted on member of the All Whites

1138
00:59:53,947 --> 00:59:56,947
Speaker 2: and pretty much a shwin to be on the plane

1139
00:59:56,947 --> 00:59:58,707
Speaker 2: to the World Cup next year. It's funny how things

1140
00:59:58,707 --> 01:00:01,507
Speaker 2: can change. One twenty five is the time we'll take

1141
01:00:01,547 --> 01:00:03,427
Speaker 2: some football calls in a moment and get you inside

1142
01:00:03,427 --> 01:00:05,427
Speaker 2: the Phoenix camp back in a moment on news talk,

1143
01:00:05,467 --> 01:00:08,267
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1151
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1160
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Speaker 8: One.

1161
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01:01:08,307 --> 01:01:11,387
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1163
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Speaker 1: talks their Bailey.

1164
01:01:13,107 --> 01:01:15,347
Speaker 2: One twenty nine. Robert says hard for the Knicks to

1165
01:01:15,387 --> 01:01:17,867
Speaker 2: win tonight with the injuries they have. Tim Payne Man, Dracer,

1166
01:01:17,987 --> 01:01:20,627
Speaker 2: James Hadeki is Shiga all out. Thanks for the interview

1167
01:01:20,667 --> 01:01:23,907
Speaker 2: with Francis Devrees. What a guy. Yeah, you're right, Robert,

1168
01:01:23,907 --> 01:01:26,827
Speaker 2: there are a few injuries and terrible news yesterday for

1169
01:01:26,907 --> 01:01:30,307
Speaker 2: Phoenix fans that Hadeki is Shiga, one of their Japanese imports,

1170
01:01:30,347 --> 01:01:32,707
Speaker 2: is out for the season with an ac L injury

1171
01:01:32,747 --> 01:01:34,947
Speaker 2: he suffered last week. He came off early in the

1172
01:01:34,947 --> 01:01:38,267
Speaker 2: game against the Mariners last week and you never really sure,

1173
01:01:38,267 --> 01:01:40,267
Speaker 2: are you when a player comes off. But scans have

1174
01:01:40,387 --> 01:01:45,227
Speaker 2: revealed that Herdeki Ashiga has an ACL injury, and we

1175
01:01:45,307 --> 01:01:47,587
Speaker 2: know how bad they are. He is out for the season.

1176
01:01:48,267 --> 01:01:51,587
Speaker 2: He is only on a contract for this current season ahead,

1177
01:01:51,707 --> 01:01:54,107
Speaker 2: so who knows, we may have seen the last of

1178
01:01:54,147 --> 01:01:56,907
Speaker 2: Adeki Ashiga in a Phoenix shirt, depending on what the

1179
01:01:56,907 --> 01:02:00,787
Speaker 2: club decides at the end of this season. But yeah,

1180
01:02:00,827 --> 01:02:02,907
Speaker 2: thoughts with Adeki Ashiga and he is a big loss.

1181
01:02:02,947 --> 01:02:05,227
Speaker 2: Tim Payne as well, the all Whites fall back not

1182
01:02:05,267 --> 01:02:07,547
Speaker 2: there man Draker James the center back and a few

1183
01:02:07,547 --> 01:02:09,787
Speaker 2: others as well. So your injuries haven't help. But then

1184
01:02:09,827 --> 01:02:12,067
Speaker 2: on the other side of the coin, you look across

1185
01:02:12,107 --> 01:02:15,467
Speaker 2: at Auckland FC and as we just mentioned with Francis Devrees,

1186
01:02:15,907 --> 01:02:19,307
Speaker 2: one of their most important players, their captain, Hiroki Sarkai,

1187
01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:22,587
Speaker 2: the Japanese international it's been to three World Cups, was

1188
01:02:22,667 --> 01:02:26,547
Speaker 2: probably their best player last year. He's out for six

1189
01:02:26,587 --> 01:02:29,547
Speaker 2: weeks with a hamstring injury. So injuries are a fact

1190
01:02:29,587 --> 01:02:32,187
Speaker 2: of life when it comes to top level sport. I'm

1191
01:02:32,187 --> 01:02:34,707
Speaker 2: not telling you anything you don't already know with that

1192
01:02:35,027 --> 01:02:37,787
Speaker 2: in that regard, so you just got to deal with them.

1193
01:02:38,267 --> 01:02:40,347
Speaker 2: You just have to deal with them. Let's get you

1194
01:02:40,387 --> 01:02:42,467
Speaker 2: inside the Phoenix camp. Had the chance yesterday to chat

1195
01:02:42,507 --> 01:02:46,387
Speaker 2: to Lucas Kelly Healed, one of the young defensive brigade

1196
01:02:46,427 --> 01:02:50,347
Speaker 2: in the Phoenix squad. Asked him if Darby week was

1197
01:02:50,347 --> 01:02:53,667
Speaker 2: a bit different from a normal week given the enormity

1198
01:02:53,707 --> 01:02:55,547
Speaker 2: of the game at the end of the week.

1199
01:02:56,507 --> 01:02:59,907
Speaker 20: Yeah, somewhat. I think we try and treat every game

1200
01:02:59,987 --> 01:03:03,627
Speaker 20: exactly the same. Been two teams from same country. It

1201
01:03:03,667 --> 01:03:06,107
Speaker 20: definitely you can kind of feel that there's a bit

1202
01:03:06,147 --> 01:03:10,747
Speaker 20: of added external pressure. We don't really buy into all that,

1203
01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:12,187
Speaker 20: you know. We try and do what we do we

1204
01:03:12,227 --> 01:03:14,627
Speaker 20: can week out, regardless of who we're playing against. But

1205
01:03:14,867 --> 01:03:15,987
Speaker 20: it'll be an exciting game.

1206
01:03:16,467 --> 01:03:19,067
Speaker 2: You only played i think second half or first half

1207
01:03:19,107 --> 01:03:21,147
Speaker 2: of the third Derby last year, so it's not as

1208
01:03:21,187 --> 01:03:24,067
Speaker 2: though you played all three. But is it easy or

1209
01:03:24,147 --> 01:03:27,027
Speaker 2: not to put last year behind this team? You know

1210
01:03:27,067 --> 01:03:30,267
Speaker 2: the three losses and start are fresh in terms of

1211
01:03:30,267 --> 01:03:30,747
Speaker 2: the derbies.

1212
01:03:31,347 --> 01:03:33,947
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think it's definitely going into a new season.

1213
01:03:33,947 --> 01:03:36,347
Speaker 20: It's a fresh start. You know, we've got a new team,

1214
01:03:36,387 --> 01:03:39,067
Speaker 20: We've got we've got some some fresh faces and I

1215
01:03:39,107 --> 01:03:41,627
Speaker 20: think we all came back from the offseason refreshed and

1216
01:03:41,987 --> 01:03:45,307
Speaker 20: ready to work hard. So we go into each game

1217
01:03:45,867 --> 01:03:48,427
Speaker 20: the same and where we're really looking forward.

1218
01:03:48,227 --> 01:03:50,987
Speaker 2: To unbeaten started the season. How do you evaluate it

1219
01:03:51,027 --> 01:03:53,267
Speaker 2: as a playing group? How happy other players with the

1220
01:03:53,307 --> 01:03:55,147
Speaker 2: first three outings this season?

1221
01:03:55,507 --> 01:03:57,267
Speaker 20: Yeah, No, it's been a it's been a good start.

1222
01:03:58,387 --> 01:04:01,987
Speaker 20: Getting been undefeated in the first three is is a

1223
01:04:02,547 --> 01:04:04,427
Speaker 20: not an easy thing to do. So now we need

1224
01:04:04,467 --> 01:04:06,947
Speaker 20: to start trying to turn those those draw into wins

1225
01:04:06,987 --> 01:04:08,347
Speaker 20: and hopefully we can take it from there.

1226
01:04:08,667 --> 01:04:11,307
Speaker 2: Tell us about game one against Perth where you'd just

1227
01:04:11,347 --> 01:04:13,907
Speaker 2: come back from the All Whites and I think Isaac

1228
01:04:14,027 --> 01:04:16,267
Speaker 2: Hues was ruled out quite close to the start of

1229
01:04:16,347 --> 01:04:19,787
Speaker 2: the game and you came in out challenging a transition

1230
01:04:19,827 --> 01:04:22,267
Speaker 2: I guess into a new system. Was that for you?

1231
01:04:23,147 --> 01:04:26,027
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean we had worked on it in pre

1232
01:04:26,107 --> 01:04:28,707
Speaker 20: season then obviously went away with under twenty years and

1233
01:04:28,747 --> 01:04:32,227
Speaker 20: with the national team, so they had been working together

1234
01:04:32,267 --> 01:04:35,027
Speaker 20: for a few weeks while I was away, so there

1235
01:04:35,067 --> 01:04:38,187
Speaker 20: was a little bit of a learning curve going into

1236
01:04:38,187 --> 01:04:41,707
Speaker 20: the game. It was a bit of a tight turnaround

1237
01:04:41,747 --> 01:04:46,347
Speaker 20: got in pretty close to the game. But there's no excuses,

1238
01:04:46,347 --> 01:04:47,907
Speaker 20: you know, we just need to try and perform as

1239
01:04:47,947 --> 01:04:49,187
Speaker 20: best as we can and we try and give us

1240
01:04:49,227 --> 01:04:50,347
Speaker 20: out as the best possibility.

1241
01:04:51,067 --> 01:04:52,507
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of talk about the high line,

1242
01:04:52,507 --> 01:04:54,067
Speaker 2: but it seems to have been sorted out. I mean,

1243
01:04:54,227 --> 01:04:56,307
Speaker 2: there was that first half against Perth and you know,

1244
01:04:56,347 --> 01:04:59,387
Speaker 2: you feel your way, but the principles of the way

1245
01:04:59,427 --> 01:05:02,307
Speaker 2: you played defensively are they embedded? Now you pretty much

1246
01:05:02,307 --> 01:05:04,587
Speaker 2: know what you're doing, you know, from game situation to

1247
01:05:04,627 --> 01:05:05,307
Speaker 2: game situation.

1248
01:05:05,867 --> 01:05:09,467
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think it's showing every week where we're getting

1249
01:05:09,467 --> 01:05:14,427
Speaker 20: better and better and those learning curves are starting to

1250
01:05:14,667 --> 01:05:17,867
Speaker 20: narrow and we're starting to feel more comfortable in those roles.

1251
01:05:17,867 --> 01:05:20,547
Speaker 20: And now that the league has started and we're playing

1252
01:05:20,587 --> 01:05:23,347
Speaker 20: every week, it's a great opportunity to test ourselves and

1253
01:05:23,787 --> 01:05:27,267
Speaker 20: learn from our challenges and get better.

1254
01:05:27,507 --> 01:05:29,107
Speaker 2: How different is it for you because we're seeing you

1255
01:05:29,147 --> 01:05:30,947
Speaker 2: mainly on the left side of a back four, also

1256
01:05:30,987 --> 01:05:34,907
Speaker 2: in the six, but defensively. What are the specific changes

1257
01:05:34,907 --> 01:05:36,507
Speaker 2: playing as part of a back three.

1258
01:05:37,027 --> 01:05:39,627
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think you have to think a bit more

1259
01:05:39,667 --> 01:05:45,427
Speaker 20: conservatively at times when as a central player as opposed

1260
01:05:45,427 --> 01:05:48,867
Speaker 20: to playing out wide, But a lot of the roles

1261
01:05:48,907 --> 01:05:53,227
Speaker 20: and responsibilities are still the same. Just about winning your moments,

1262
01:05:53,267 --> 01:05:56,587
Speaker 20: winning your battles and then giving it to the ones

1263
01:05:56,587 --> 01:05:58,587
Speaker 20: in front of you to hopefully make something happen.

1264
01:05:58,987 --> 01:06:02,387
Speaker 2: Communication Wise, you know, there's no man Draker James this weekend.

1265
01:06:02,467 --> 01:06:04,707
Speaker 2: Good Isaac Hughes and Matt Sheridan who I know you

1266
01:06:04,747 --> 01:06:07,307
Speaker 2: know well, and then Josh behind you. How important is

1267
01:06:07,347 --> 01:06:10,987
Speaker 2: the communication, especially in a Newish system.

1268
01:06:11,227 --> 01:06:14,027
Speaker 20: Yeah, no, it's hugely important, I think, especially with the

1269
01:06:14,027 --> 01:06:17,987
Speaker 20: way we're playing. Communications key, you know. I think that's

1270
01:06:18,027 --> 01:06:20,467
Speaker 20: something we've been trying to drive all for the last

1271
01:06:20,627 --> 01:06:23,707
Speaker 20: few months as we've been working on it. And like

1272
01:06:23,787 --> 01:06:25,267
Speaker 20: I look along the back line and there's some real

1273
01:06:25,387 --> 01:06:28,547
Speaker 20: vocal people like Isaac and Matt Shirt and very vocal.

1274
01:06:28,627 --> 01:06:30,467
Speaker 20: So it's been really good.

1275
01:06:30,747 --> 01:06:32,267
Speaker 2: Is that something that you know? I mean, you don't

1276
01:06:32,307 --> 01:06:33,987
Speaker 2: strike me and I might be completely wrong here as

1277
01:06:33,987 --> 01:06:37,427
Speaker 2: a really vocal football player. Do you are you sort

1278
01:06:37,427 --> 01:06:39,827
Speaker 2: of changing in any regard or you just let those

1279
01:06:39,827 --> 01:06:41,387
Speaker 2: guys do most of the talking.

1280
01:06:41,867 --> 01:06:45,627
Speaker 20: No, I'm definitely vocal. I try to be. I'm not

1281
01:06:45,667 --> 01:06:47,867
Speaker 20: the one to yell and scream at you, but I

1282
01:06:47,947 --> 01:06:51,147
Speaker 20: will try and be concise and direct with my communication.

1283
01:06:51,307 --> 01:06:55,347
Speaker 20: I'll let those around me know what needs to be done.

1284
01:06:55,987 --> 01:06:58,027
Speaker 20: But you won't see me yelling my head off at

1285
01:06:58,027 --> 01:07:01,267
Speaker 20: anyone around me, you know. So it's a different, i think,

1286
01:07:01,307 --> 01:07:04,227
Speaker 20: more composed style of communication, but I think it works

1287
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Speaker 20: for me.

1288
01:07:04,587 --> 01:07:08,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely know. It's a great quality. How different a

1289
01:07:09,027 --> 01:07:12,067
Speaker 2: player are you from the Lucas Kelly Hill that joined

1290
01:07:12,067 --> 01:07:13,307
Speaker 2: the Phoenix a couple of years ago?

1291
01:07:14,067 --> 01:07:16,987
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think every year I've grown as a player.

1292
01:07:17,187 --> 01:07:21,747
Speaker 20: I think from I think three years ago now or

1293
01:07:21,787 --> 01:07:23,667
Speaker 20: as my going into my third season, I think a

1294
01:07:23,707 --> 01:07:27,747
Speaker 20: lot has changed and I have found myself growing into

1295
01:07:28,147 --> 01:07:31,507
Speaker 20: myself as a person and as a player, and every

1296
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:35,147
Speaker 20: week poses new challenges and new opportunities, and I've enjoyed

1297
01:07:35,147 --> 01:07:35,827
Speaker 20: every minute.

1298
01:07:36,107 --> 01:07:39,187
Speaker 2: And your involvement of the national team, have you. Have

1299
01:07:39,267 --> 01:07:41,907
Speaker 2: you found your experiences being in and around the All

1300
01:07:41,947 --> 01:07:42,467
Speaker 2: Whites camp?

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01:07:42,787 --> 01:07:46,827
Speaker 20: Yeah, unbelievable. I always love going into that environment. They're

1302
01:07:46,867 --> 01:07:50,187
Speaker 20: all such great players, but more importantly, they're all great people.

1303
01:07:50,427 --> 01:07:52,987
Speaker 20: I get on well with everyone that I come into

1304
01:07:53,027 --> 01:07:56,147
Speaker 20: contact with there and I try and take away as

1305
01:07:56,147 --> 01:07:58,467
Speaker 20: many learnings as I possibly can, and.

1306
01:07:58,507 --> 01:08:00,547
Speaker 2: Just back to this week to finish. Is there any

1307
01:08:00,627 --> 01:08:03,307
Speaker 2: danger that you played the game before the game, if

1308
01:08:03,307 --> 01:08:05,507
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's a big occasion to Derby,

1309
01:08:05,547 --> 01:08:08,587
Speaker 2: big crowd coming. Is there any need to keep your

1310
01:08:08,587 --> 01:08:11,547
Speaker 2: feet on the ground in the Thursday, Friday before the Saturday.

1311
01:08:12,027 --> 01:08:12,227
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1312
01:08:12,347 --> 01:08:14,947
Speaker 20: I think we've spoken about it as a group. You know,

1313
01:08:15,027 --> 01:08:18,027
Speaker 20: it's an important game, but it's the same game as

1314
01:08:18,067 --> 01:08:21,507
Speaker 20: every other week. It's you know, both teams are trying

1315
01:08:21,547 --> 01:08:23,587
Speaker 20: to win win the same game and that should be

1316
01:08:23,627 --> 01:08:26,307
Speaker 20: how it is every single week. So we just need

1317
01:08:26,347 --> 01:08:28,187
Speaker 20: to keep doing what we've been doing and do it

1318
01:08:28,227 --> 01:08:30,947
Speaker 20: at at a high level and then hopefully the result

1319
01:08:31,027 --> 01:08:31,467
Speaker 20: comes our a.

1320
01:08:31,747 --> 01:08:33,227
Speaker 2: Be good time to score your first day leg.

1321
01:08:33,187 --> 01:08:35,227
Speaker 20: Goal, It would be it definitely would be.

1322
01:08:36,067 --> 01:08:37,547
Speaker 2: Just would in your brother too, haven't seen him the

1323
01:08:37,587 --> 01:08:41,387
Speaker 2: year he's coming back albe your goalkeeper brother. Is he

1324
01:08:41,467 --> 01:08:43,387
Speaker 2: close to being back involved in the in the first

1325
01:08:43,427 --> 01:08:43,987
Speaker 2: time environment.

1326
01:08:44,387 --> 01:08:48,747
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely. He's training with us every day and he's

1327
01:08:48,747 --> 01:08:51,267
Speaker 20: been getting some minutes with the reserve team just to

1328
01:08:51,307 --> 01:08:53,667
Speaker 20: get some minutes in the tank and he's been training

1329
01:08:53,707 --> 01:08:56,747
Speaker 20: and playing exceptionally and I'm really glad to see him

1330
01:08:56,747 --> 01:08:57,507
Speaker 20: back out on the field.

1331
01:08:57,587 --> 01:09:00,587
Speaker 2: That is Lucas Kelly healed out of the Wellington Phoenix

1332
01:09:00,667 --> 01:09:03,627
Speaker 2: or seven o'clock kick off tonight in the men's game

1333
01:09:03,707 --> 01:09:06,267
Speaker 2: the women at four o'clock. I spoke briefly with C J.

1334
01:09:06,427 --> 01:09:11,107
Speaker 2: Bought yesterday who has has signed for Wellington Phoenix after

1335
01:09:11,547 --> 01:09:16,107
Speaker 2: several years playing overseas, current football firm with over fifty camps.

1336
01:09:16,507 --> 01:09:18,587
Speaker 2: Just checking in with the women's camp. It's been a

1337
01:09:18,587 --> 01:09:22,347
Speaker 2: long time coming. The off season is very very long

1338
01:09:22,387 --> 01:09:25,187
Speaker 2: in the A League. So CJ bot first of all,

1339
01:09:25,227 --> 01:09:29,627
Speaker 2: whether they were actually ready now to get on the field, Yeah.

1340
01:09:29,387 --> 01:09:30,027
Speaker 21: Really, really good.

1341
01:09:30,067 --> 01:09:32,427
Speaker 22: It has been a very long preseason, but we're very

1342
01:09:32,427 --> 01:09:34,867
Speaker 22: grateful for it. We've made a lot of grounds and

1343
01:09:34,907 --> 01:09:36,907
Speaker 22: we definitely feel very very ready to go and we're

1344
01:09:36,987 --> 01:09:38,587
Speaker 22: really excited to hit the ground running tomorrow.

1345
01:09:38,747 --> 01:09:40,867
Speaker 2: Won of uscaped your attention. There's a lot of expectation

1346
01:09:40,947 --> 01:09:43,667
Speaker 2: around this team. Is that in any way a burden

1347
01:09:43,827 --> 01:09:45,187
Speaker 2: on the shoulders of the playoffs?

1348
01:09:45,427 --> 01:09:48,227
Speaker 22: No, No, absolutely not. I think it's definitely feeding the

1349
01:09:48,267 --> 01:09:50,587
Speaker 22: motivation because we know we have a point to prove,

1350
01:09:50,707 --> 01:09:53,067
Speaker 22: but we also know we're capable of and we've just

1351
01:09:53,147 --> 01:09:53,827
Speaker 22: got belief in that.

1352
01:09:54,347 --> 01:09:56,227
Speaker 2: And in terms of not getting too carried away, you

1353
01:09:56,267 --> 01:09:58,067
Speaker 2: had to watch everyone else get underway last week you

1354
01:09:58,107 --> 01:10:01,667
Speaker 2: had to buy. Is there any danger of the occasion

1355
01:10:02,347 --> 01:10:04,707
Speaker 2: getting too big for you and playing the game before

1356
01:10:04,747 --> 01:10:05,107
Speaker 2: the game?

1357
01:10:05,347 --> 01:10:06,067
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.

1358
01:10:06,107 --> 01:10:06,467
Speaker 6: I think think.

1359
01:10:06,547 --> 01:10:08,387
Speaker 22: Like I said earlier, we know what we're capable of.

1360
01:10:08,427 --> 01:10:10,627
Speaker 22: We've got a very firm game plan. We all know

1361
01:10:10,707 --> 01:10:13,107
Speaker 22: our roles and like I said, we're excited and we're

1362
01:10:13,107 --> 01:10:15,027
Speaker 22: ready to go. But yeah, the occasion's got nothing to

1363
01:10:15,067 --> 01:10:15,387
Speaker 22: do with it.

1364
01:10:16,107 --> 01:10:18,027
Speaker 2: Are you up for media today because you're the captain

1365
01:10:18,067 --> 01:10:22,427
Speaker 2: of the team that's been about for I don't know tomorrow.

1366
01:10:22,467 --> 01:10:23,027
Speaker 11: I am to Murra.

1367
01:10:23,107 --> 01:10:26,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, one congratulate, thank you. That is c J Bott, who, yeah,

1368
01:10:26,587 --> 01:10:28,987
Speaker 2: we found out was captain yesterday when she did her

1369
01:10:29,067 --> 01:10:32,467
Speaker 2: media There's some talk that there may be co captains

1370
01:10:32,507 --> 01:10:34,587
Speaker 2: in that team, but it'll be c J. Bott who

1371
01:10:34,667 --> 01:10:37,307
Speaker 2: leads the Wellington Phoenix woman out today. She will be

1372
01:10:37,347 --> 01:10:40,627
Speaker 2: in her hometown. She grew up in the Wellington suburb

1373
01:10:40,667 --> 01:10:43,107
Speaker 2: of Tawa. Has been overseas for a long time, but

1374
01:10:43,187 --> 01:10:45,667
Speaker 2: back in her hometown Club and no doubt proud to

1375
01:10:45,747 --> 01:10:49,507
Speaker 2: lead her team out onto Sky Stadium this afternoon, twenty

1376
01:10:49,547 --> 01:10:51,547
Speaker 2: one away from two. Just updating you on the cricket

1377
01:10:51,587 --> 01:10:53,107
Speaker 2: before we take a break and get you across the

1378
01:10:53,107 --> 01:10:56,507
Speaker 2: Tasman with Adam Peacock. Three four Trophy matches going on

1379
01:10:56,587 --> 01:10:59,947
Speaker 2: at Eden Parks out of Oval Central, batting first against Auckland.

1380
01:10:59,987 --> 01:11:02,427
Speaker 2: Forty three overs gone, they are two hundred and seventy

1381
01:11:02,467 --> 01:11:05,267
Speaker 2: three for three. Brad Schuleman, the opener, has brought up

1382
01:11:05,307 --> 01:11:08,347
Speaker 2: one hundred. He's one hundred twelve not out. Dane Cleaver

1383
01:11:08,507 --> 01:11:10,627
Speaker 2: has just come to the wicket as well, but CD

1384
01:11:10,867 --> 01:11:13,227
Speaker 2: racking up a big score with seven overs ago two

1385
01:11:13,347 --> 01:11:16,827
Speaker 2: seventy three for three set in Park and Hamilton Northern

1386
01:11:16,907 --> 01:11:18,987
Speaker 2: struggling just a little bit in the forty eighth over

1387
01:11:19,307 --> 01:11:22,067
Speaker 2: one eighty eight for eight one hundred and eighty eight

1388
01:11:22,267 --> 01:11:25,267
Speaker 2: for eight batting first against Canterbury and at the Basin

1389
01:11:25,347 --> 01:11:28,307
Speaker 2: Reserve it is the visitor's Otago and the forty sixth

1390
01:11:28,347 --> 01:11:31,507
Speaker 2: over two hundred and three for seven two three for seven.

1391
01:11:31,507 --> 01:11:35,387
Speaker 2: Should have mentioned actually in the Northern innings that Robbie

1392
01:11:35,467 --> 01:11:38,507
Speaker 2: O'Donnell has scored one hundred, one hundred and six of

1393
01:11:38,547 --> 01:11:41,227
Speaker 2: the one hundred and ninety that Northern have scored. So

1394
01:11:41,987 --> 01:11:44,227
Speaker 2: it's a good thing that Captain Robbie O'Donnell is there,

1395
01:11:44,267 --> 01:11:47,187
Speaker 2: otherwise Northern would be in quite the predicament. We'll keep

1396
01:11:47,227 --> 01:11:49,747
Speaker 2: eyes on those games for you as they progress across

1397
01:11:49,787 --> 01:11:53,507
Speaker 2: the afternoon twenty to two in Australian Next with Adam Peacock.

1398
01:11:54,907 --> 01:11:56,147
Speaker 3: You be the TMO.

1399
01:11:56,187 --> 01:11:58,587
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1400
01:11:58,787 --> 01:12:02,947
Speaker 1: weekends for It with Jason hin and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New

1401
01:12:02,987 --> 01:12:04,627
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1402
01:12:04,707 --> 01:12:08,867
Speaker 2: News Dogs'd be one forty three here at news Talks

1403
01:12:08,867 --> 01:12:11,027
Speaker 2: at b time for a regular Saturday catch up with

1404
01:12:11,027 --> 01:12:14,347
Speaker 2: Australian correspondent to Adam Peacock, who joins us now. I've

1405
01:12:14,427 --> 01:12:17,987
Speaker 2: loved keeping track of your social media this week, Adam.

1406
01:12:18,027 --> 01:12:20,867
Speaker 2: You've been here, there and everywhere in a very big

1407
01:12:20,907 --> 01:12:23,827
Speaker 2: week for racing in particular. How was Cup week?

1408
01:12:25,347 --> 01:12:25,787
Speaker 19: Awesome?

1409
01:12:25,947 --> 01:12:29,307
Speaker 23: Awesome, Pioneer, It was very enjoyable. Of course we've got

1410
01:12:29,307 --> 01:12:31,067
Speaker 23: a good day to day as well, the champions Day,

1411
01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:35,307
Speaker 23: but Darby was fantastic. But meloyn Cup day was.

1412
01:12:35,787 --> 01:12:36,187
Speaker 22: I don't know.

1413
01:12:36,227 --> 01:12:38,987
Speaker 24: AUP a few years ago was going through a few

1414
01:12:39,027 --> 01:12:43,147
Speaker 24: issues with some of the internationals not quite getting through

1415
01:12:43,187 --> 01:12:46,667
Speaker 24: the race, and I thought about a set of own publicity,

1416
01:12:47,787 --> 01:12:50,427
Speaker 24: some of it not very good. But it just feels

1417
01:12:50,467 --> 01:12:54,067
Speaker 24: like they've now decided to kind of reinvigorate it. And

1418
01:12:54,147 --> 01:12:56,827
Speaker 24: it just had a great, great atmosphere there and a

1419
01:12:56,867 --> 01:12:59,107
Speaker 24: fantastic saw. It was the only Australian bread horse in

1420
01:12:59,147 --> 01:13:02,507
Speaker 24: the race and it bolted in half yours with Jamie

1421
01:13:02,507 --> 01:13:04,907
Speaker 24: Mellen becoming the second woman to win a Cup. So yeah,

1422
01:13:04,987 --> 01:13:06,187
Speaker 24: great storylines everywhere.

1423
01:13:06,347 --> 01:13:08,707
Speaker 2: Absolutely yet stopped other nation as well as yours, I

1424
01:13:08,707 --> 01:13:11,307
Speaker 2: can tell you, and my horse ran fourth, you'll be

1425
01:13:11,307 --> 01:13:13,947
Speaker 2: pleased to know. So each way, bit, each way bit

1426
01:13:14,187 --> 01:13:17,947
Speaker 2: was was nearly there, but not quite unfortunately.

1427
01:13:18,667 --> 01:13:19,027
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1428
01:13:19,187 --> 01:13:22,587
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's one of those races where you either look

1429
01:13:22,667 --> 01:13:24,587
Speaker 23: like a genius or you look like an absolute fool.

1430
01:13:24,667 --> 01:13:28,427
Speaker 23: So you fell in the unusual circumstances just somewhere in between.

1431
01:13:28,467 --> 01:13:30,427
Speaker 2: Exactly which I do. I don't mind it. I don't

1432
01:13:30,427 --> 01:13:32,347
Speaker 2: mind it all right. Other matters around on your side

1433
01:13:32,347 --> 01:13:35,027
Speaker 2: of the Tasman Australia have name their team for the Ashes,

1434
01:13:35,067 --> 01:13:37,307
Speaker 2: which starts in a couple of weeks. Pleading have experience

1435
01:13:37,387 --> 01:13:38,987
Speaker 2: not much use. What do you make of it?

1436
01:13:39,947 --> 01:13:44,387
Speaker 24: Yeah, I've gone for whoever's informed, Jack Pether or get

1437
01:13:44,507 --> 01:13:47,107
Speaker 24: in because he scored runs the final last season and Shield.

1438
01:13:47,147 --> 01:13:48,507
Speaker 24: He's got off to a pretty good start. I think

1439
01:13:48,547 --> 01:13:51,467
Speaker 24: he's a second leading run scorer in Sheffield Shield, our

1440
01:13:51,507 --> 01:13:55,787
Speaker 24: domestic competition through three or four matches. Whereas Sam Constace,

1441
01:13:55,787 --> 01:13:59,627
Speaker 24: who was the incumbent, he's just a bit not with

1442
01:13:59,707 --> 01:14:01,947
Speaker 24: it at the moment. Unfortunately Sam, he's still figuring it's

1443
01:14:01,947 --> 01:14:05,107
Speaker 24: a game. Seems twenty he'll be right, like he's got

1444
01:14:05,147 --> 01:14:07,827
Speaker 24: that much talent that he just needs to kind of

1445
01:14:08,027 --> 01:14:10,227
Speaker 24: work out what to do with our talent and how

1446
01:14:10,227 --> 01:14:12,667
Speaker 24: to best utilize it because sometimes he's playing their shots

1447
01:14:12,667 --> 01:14:17,507
Speaker 24: that look attacking and look fearless, but really are they

1448
01:14:17,867 --> 01:14:20,507
Speaker 24: the right shot at the right time. So a lot

1449
01:14:20,547 --> 01:14:22,507
Speaker 24: of good judges in the Australian cricket far better than me,

1450
01:14:22,627 --> 01:14:25,627
Speaker 24: think that he will definitely be back in the Test side.

1451
01:14:25,827 --> 01:14:28,027
Speaker 24: It might be one year, it might be a couple,

1452
01:14:28,067 --> 01:14:30,747
Speaker 24: it might be a few, but he's certainly good enough.

1453
01:14:30,787 --> 01:14:33,987
Speaker 24: But yeah, they've gone for this experienced lineup. And the

1454
01:14:33,987 --> 01:14:36,467
Speaker 24: big question is where Marmas bats Martins labor shame does

1455
01:14:36,467 --> 01:14:38,387
Speaker 24: he bat it? Three, And it all depends on whether

1456
01:14:38,467 --> 01:14:42,147
Speaker 24: Cameron Green can bowl. Now, Cameron Green can bowl, he

1457
01:14:42,307 --> 01:14:46,187
Speaker 24: plays six, bow Webster drops out, Marnus plays three, and

1458
01:14:46,267 --> 01:14:49,907
Speaker 24: whether all it opens Cameron Green can't bowl, Marnus probably opens,

1459
01:14:50,267 --> 01:14:52,907
Speaker 24: Cameron Green goes to three and Bo Webster keeps his

1460
01:14:52,907 --> 01:14:55,147
Speaker 24: spot at six. And that's the big, the big question

1461
01:14:55,227 --> 01:14:57,067
Speaker 24: the mart and I think the bowlers look after itself,

1462
01:14:57,147 --> 01:15:00,187
Speaker 24: look after themselves, and that's the batting one.

1463
01:15:00,347 --> 01:15:03,227
Speaker 2: No, Pat Cummins, what's the prognosis or what are you hearing?

1464
01:15:03,307 --> 01:15:05,507
Speaker 2: Will he play any part in the ashes?

1465
01:15:06,467 --> 01:15:06,827
Speaker 11: Building?

1466
01:15:07,027 --> 01:15:09,667
Speaker 23: Building up? The issue that he's got gone back a

1467
01:15:09,667 --> 01:15:10,067
Speaker 23: few weeks.

1468
01:15:10,107 --> 01:15:10,707
Speaker 9: Of course we've.

1469
01:15:10,547 --> 01:15:13,147
Speaker 24: Discussed it, is that he's got this tiny little hot

1470
01:15:13,147 --> 01:15:17,707
Speaker 24: spot the base of his back. Now you can you

1471
01:15:17,827 --> 01:15:20,227
Speaker 24: can't really just judge it off. Oh look at a

1472
01:15:20,227 --> 01:15:22,867
Speaker 24: scan and he's all better go for it. You've got

1473
01:15:22,867 --> 01:15:24,987
Speaker 24: to kind of build it up, build it up, because

1474
01:15:24,987 --> 01:15:26,707
Speaker 24: the worst thing you can do for a lower back

1475
01:15:27,467 --> 01:15:31,667
Speaker 24: is give it heaps of load while you're twisting. Unfortunately

1476
01:15:31,667 --> 01:15:34,347
Speaker 24: for Pat, he bothers a one hundred and forty ks.

1477
01:15:34,427 --> 01:15:35,587
Speaker 24: Now it does a bit of twisting.

1478
01:15:37,027 --> 01:15:39,427
Speaker 23: He's just got to slowly build up straight line running

1479
01:15:39,507 --> 01:15:42,267
Speaker 23: and then introduce some bowling off a couple of steps

1480
01:15:42,307 --> 01:15:44,467
Speaker 23: and five steps then he's full run up and then

1481
01:15:44,467 --> 01:15:46,907
Speaker 23: he's got to get through it and recover well without

1482
01:15:46,947 --> 01:15:49,787
Speaker 23: the back going can you please not? So at the

1483
01:15:49,827 --> 01:15:52,147
Speaker 23: moment the back hasn't said can you please not? I

1484
01:15:52,187 --> 01:15:54,827
Speaker 23: think he's halfway through that build up period. But he's

1485
01:15:54,867 --> 01:15:57,827
Speaker 23: aiming for the third test, and reports are that he's

1486
01:15:57,867 --> 01:15:59,867
Speaker 23: going so well that it could be second. But got

1487
01:15:59,867 --> 01:16:02,107
Speaker 23: to be really, really careful because the moment it goes

1488
01:16:02,587 --> 01:16:04,027
Speaker 23: six month see ladder.

1489
01:16:04,587 --> 01:16:06,587
Speaker 2: Looking forward to the ashes when they roll around tape,

1490
01:16:06,587 --> 01:16:08,987
Speaker 2: the pet commins can find a way to be involved.

1491
01:16:09,547 --> 01:16:13,627
Speaker 2: Tony Popovich, the Soccero's coach, has named his latest squad

1492
01:16:13,667 --> 01:16:17,067
Speaker 2: for the upcoming window. He continues to surprise, doesn't he

1493
01:16:17,107 --> 01:16:21,267
Speaker 2: an experiment another bunch of unkept players in this latest squad?

1494
01:16:22,107 --> 01:16:22,507
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1495
01:16:22,547 --> 01:16:25,707
Speaker 24: So, I don't know if he's just keeping a whole

1496
01:16:25,747 --> 01:16:28,947
Speaker 24: heap of play like forty of them, keen to give

1497
01:16:29,027 --> 01:16:30,947
Speaker 24: them the sniff that they might be in with the chance,

1498
01:16:31,307 --> 01:16:34,907
Speaker 24: as opposed to like some other European nations like Thomas

1499
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Speaker 24: Turkle and for instance at England squad to squad, he's

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01:16:38,027 --> 01:16:40,747
Speaker 24: not changing much he's like building a core, a big

1501
01:16:40,787 --> 01:16:43,507
Speaker 24: core to get to the Low Cup. Where's Tony Polovitch.

1502
01:16:43,547 --> 01:16:46,187
Speaker 24: It feels like he's got a corps about I don't know,

1503
01:16:46,347 --> 01:16:49,107
Speaker 24: thirteen fourteen players, but the rest of the squad, the

1504
01:16:49,147 --> 01:16:51,667
Speaker 24: ten to twelve that he needs to fill, it's just

1505
01:16:51,747 --> 01:16:54,307
Speaker 24: hanging in the breeze. So he's bringing all these players in,

1506
01:16:54,427 --> 01:16:57,267
Speaker 24: like a guy Denny Urich for instance. I forgot he

1507
01:16:57,307 --> 01:17:01,507
Speaker 24: was playing football, but he's scoring goals in Poland. So

1508
01:17:01,907 --> 01:17:04,587
Speaker 24: on Facebook, you're actually on that. He actually probably does

1509
01:17:04,747 --> 01:17:07,747
Speaker 24: deserve a go like Cami Evidence, like ripping it up

1510
01:17:07,747 --> 01:17:09,947
Speaker 24: in Scotland. So he's in the squad, which is good

1511
01:17:09,987 --> 01:17:12,987
Speaker 24: to know. And sure there's a few Nicks fans who'd

1512
01:17:13,027 --> 01:17:16,107
Speaker 24: be happy about that. But yeah, he's just it's really

1513
01:17:16,107 --> 01:17:18,387
Speaker 24: open out like al Hassan Tore. He's played a couple

1514
01:17:18,467 --> 01:17:22,307
Speaker 24: of games in the aleg back. Yeah, it's an interesting

1515
01:17:22,307 --> 01:17:24,027
Speaker 24: way to go about it. But he's having a look

1516
01:17:24,027 --> 01:17:25,667
Speaker 24: at absolutely everyone in can Popper.

1517
01:17:25,907 --> 01:17:28,267
Speaker 2: Yeah it is interesting. I mean Darren basically our all

1518
01:17:28,267 --> 01:17:31,347
Speaker 2: whites coaches very much in the in the settled squad,

1519
01:17:31,507 --> 01:17:34,107
Speaker 2: with just a sprinkling of new faces here and there.

1520
01:17:34,347 --> 01:17:37,187
Speaker 2: The latest squad's name has only got got one new

1521
01:17:37,227 --> 01:17:40,267
Speaker 2: player from memory. So yeah, it's an interesting little balancing act.

1522
01:17:40,267 --> 01:17:42,027
Speaker 2: But what Papa will do, what Papa will do.

1523
01:17:42,947 --> 01:17:45,747
Speaker 24: Papa he used to do this that Wanderers, for instance,

1524
01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:47,227
Speaker 24: Like the way.

1525
01:17:47,107 --> 01:17:49,747
Speaker 23: He'd name his team. He wouldn't name it the day.

1526
01:17:49,587 --> 01:17:51,787
Speaker 24: Before, like to the team I'm talking about, not to

1527
01:17:51,827 --> 01:17:54,347
Speaker 24: ask were at the team shed now before. He'd actually

1528
01:17:54,387 --> 01:17:57,267
Speaker 24: get every single player and squad the rock up with

1529
01:17:57,427 --> 01:18:00,707
Speaker 24: their kid, like all twenty three players or whatever it is,

1530
01:18:01,067 --> 01:18:03,147
Speaker 24: and then put up the team. That's so there's six

1531
01:18:03,267 --> 01:18:05,187
Speaker 24: guys who have rocked up with their boots thinking I

1532
01:18:05,267 --> 01:18:07,307
Speaker 24: might be a chance of playing today, look at the

1533
01:18:07,307 --> 01:18:09,147
Speaker 24: whiteboard and go, oh, I'm not even in the squad

1534
01:18:09,187 --> 01:18:12,387
Speaker 24: of the same my suit. So he does it that way, Popper,

1535
01:18:12,427 --> 01:18:16,227
Speaker 24: he does it his own way, and yeah, the results

1536
01:18:16,227 --> 01:18:18,387
Speaker 24: will kind of speak themselves when we get to America

1537
01:18:18,427 --> 01:18:18,827
Speaker 24: next year.

1538
01:18:18,907 --> 01:18:23,227
Speaker 2: Indeed, and just to finish manly in our religion daily

1539
01:18:23,347 --> 01:18:26,107
Speaker 2: Cherry Evans has moved to the roosters. Has been confirmed.

1540
01:18:26,227 --> 01:18:27,627
Speaker 2: This was expected, wasn't it.

1541
01:18:28,707 --> 01:18:32,867
Speaker 24: Yeah, Sarcasm is the greatest form of comedy in my opinion.

1542
01:18:32,987 --> 01:18:35,667
Speaker 24: Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. So I'll go down

1543
01:18:35,707 --> 01:18:37,987
Speaker 24: this past. This is the biggest shock of the year. Piney,

1544
01:18:38,067 --> 01:18:38,707
Speaker 24: I can't believe it.

1545
01:18:39,307 --> 01:18:43,547
Speaker 23: Jerry Eavens off to the roosters. You could have blow

1546
01:18:43,587 --> 01:18:47,987
Speaker 23: me down with a father yesterday. Absolutely amazing, always going

1547
01:18:48,027 --> 01:18:50,827
Speaker 23: to happen. The only mystery is and Daily will tell

1548
01:18:50,827 --> 01:18:54,507
Speaker 23: his own story eventually about why the twists and turns

1549
01:18:54,507 --> 01:18:58,067
Speaker 23: and why he went down this path. But I guess

1550
01:18:58,067 --> 01:19:01,827
Speaker 23: he wanted to wait until the regular season had kind

1551
01:19:01,827 --> 01:19:04,467
Speaker 23: of blown through and pre season was about to start,

1552
01:19:04,467 --> 01:19:07,587
Speaker 23: and I guess for him, I'll be fascinated to see

1553
01:19:07,627 --> 01:19:07,987
Speaker 23: what he says.

1554
01:19:08,027 --> 01:19:09,867
Speaker 24: Maybe he got to end the last season with Manley

1555
01:19:09,947 --> 01:19:12,827
Speaker 24: and just wanted to give himself a month and then

1556
01:19:12,867 --> 01:19:14,387
Speaker 24: to think, so I really want to go through this

1557
01:19:14,427 --> 01:19:17,507
Speaker 24: again with pre season training. So yeah, it's done, one

1558
01:19:17,547 --> 01:19:19,427
Speaker 24: year deal. Give you good for the Chalks and Manly

1559
01:19:19,467 --> 01:19:21,147
Speaker 24: can move on with life. I've got a new CEO

1560
01:19:21,267 --> 01:19:23,587
Speaker 24: now Manly a next legend and Jason King sob to

1561
01:19:23,667 --> 01:19:25,947
Speaker 24: change there and Karen Ford and coming back as an

1562
01:19:25,987 --> 01:19:27,867
Speaker 24: assistant coach, which is great for the club and all

1563
01:19:27,867 --> 01:19:30,867
Speaker 24: the players are excited. So again, mainly try to find

1564
01:19:30,907 --> 01:19:33,147
Speaker 24: that missing ingredient and hasn't been there.

1565
01:19:32,987 --> 01:19:33,747
Speaker 19: For a few years.

1566
01:19:34,147 --> 01:19:36,587
Speaker 2: Never a shortage of sporting talking points on your side

1567
01:19:36,587 --> 01:19:38,627
Speaker 2: of the Tasman. Adam, thanks as always for joining us, mate.

1568
01:19:38,627 --> 01:19:40,947
Speaker 2: Have a great weekend and we'll catch up again next Saturday.

1569
01:19:41,267 --> 01:19:42,627
Speaker 24: You too, finally enjoy the Derby?

1570
01:19:42,707 --> 01:19:45,107
Speaker 2: Oh certainly well, Adam, don't you worry about that? Thanks indeed,

1571
01:19:45,107 --> 01:19:49,427
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock, our regular Saturday correspondent from across the Tasman

1572
01:19:49,467 --> 01:19:52,947
Speaker 2: bringing us Australian sporting matters. Can't wait for the Ashes.

1573
01:19:53,507 --> 01:19:57,387
Speaker 2: Just love the Ashes. First Test starts on Friday, November

1574
01:19:57,427 --> 01:20:00,427
Speaker 2: the twenty first. So what's that two weeks yesterday Opta

1575
01:20:00,507 --> 01:20:03,107
Speaker 2: Stadium in Perth, the first Test of the Ashes series.

1576
01:20:03,147 --> 01:20:04,787
Speaker 2: I looked at that team that was named during the week,

1577
01:20:05,187 --> 01:20:09,507
Speaker 2: just so experienced, as they say, I think one player

1578
01:20:09,587 --> 01:20:15,147
Speaker 2: under thirty in the Australian Ashes squad. That's very rare,

1579
01:20:15,227 --> 01:20:17,307
Speaker 2: isn't it. You think for a country like Australia, who

1580
01:20:17,307 --> 01:20:20,147
Speaker 2: pride themselves on the depth that they have, that there'd

1581
01:20:20,107 --> 01:20:22,867
Speaker 2: be some youngsters in there. But you know, experience counts

1582
01:20:22,867 --> 01:20:24,867
Speaker 2: for a lot. So yeah, just Cameron Green. I think

1583
01:20:24,907 --> 01:20:28,747
Speaker 2: the only player in that Ossie Ashes squad under the

1584
01:20:28,787 --> 01:20:30,667
Speaker 2: age of thirty, looking forward to the five Test series

1585
01:20:30,667 --> 01:20:32,627
Speaker 2: starting in a couple of weeks. Eight and a half

1586
01:20:32,627 --> 01:20:33,507
Speaker 2: to two New stalks ep.

1587
01:20:35,107 --> 01:20:38,827
Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails

1588
01:20:40,387 --> 01:20:44,187
Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason him new Stalk Zenby.

1589
01:20:44,427 --> 01:20:46,187
Speaker 2: Coming up five to two. Just checking in on the

1590
01:20:46,227 --> 01:20:49,347
Speaker 2: Sal Paulo Grand Prix. Illiam Lawson's made an early exit

1591
01:20:49,387 --> 01:20:52,387
Speaker 2: from qualifying for tomorrow morning sprint race. At the event,

1592
01:20:52,867 --> 01:20:55,667
Speaker 2: he was one of the bottom five drivers eliminated in

1593
01:20:55,707 --> 01:20:59,107
Speaker 2: the first segment. He'll start a lowly seventeenth on the grid.

1594
01:20:59,187 --> 01:21:00,467
Speaker 2: Here are some of his thoughts on that.

1595
01:21:00,787 --> 01:21:04,827
Speaker 13: Well, it was pretty close, so that ultimately words you

1596
01:21:04,907 --> 01:21:06,787
Speaker 13: think you were just lacking to.

1597
01:21:06,707 --> 01:21:07,227
Speaker 14: Not get through.

1598
01:21:08,147 --> 01:21:11,747
Speaker 26: We didn't do a second lap, so first that was okay.

1599
01:21:11,867 --> 01:21:13,427
Speaker 26: I mean the car has been very very quick today,

1600
01:21:13,467 --> 01:21:17,627
Speaker 26: so yeah, we just we came out of the garage

1601
01:21:17,667 --> 01:21:20,667
Speaker 26: for the second run and everyone was slowing down at

1602
01:21:20,707 --> 01:21:23,987
Speaker 26: the pedixit and I ran out of time. Basically, I started,

1603
01:21:24,147 --> 01:21:26,627
Speaker 26: I came across the line right behind ghastly and.

1604
01:21:28,187 --> 01:21:28,787
Speaker 14: All collupens.

1605
01:21:28,827 --> 01:21:31,187
Speaker 26: I don't know who it was, but we just messed

1606
01:21:31,227 --> 01:21:34,027
Speaker 26: up the timing completely, so I don't really know how,

1607
01:21:34,947 --> 01:21:37,827
Speaker 26: but yeah, it basically meant we didn't do a second lap.

1608
01:21:38,107 --> 01:21:40,067
Speaker 6: Was it discussed before hunt to try and leave it

1609
01:21:40,067 --> 01:21:42,107
Speaker 6: as late as possible for optimum conditions.

1610
01:21:42,307 --> 01:21:43,947
Speaker 26: Honestly, I don't even think we left it that late.

1611
01:21:44,027 --> 01:21:46,987
Speaker 26: It's just sometimes people leave big gaps, and also with

1612
01:21:47,107 --> 01:21:49,267
Speaker 26: cars doing cool downs on track, it just you get

1613
01:21:49,307 --> 01:21:51,107
Speaker 26: caught up in it and we just got really bad timing.

1614
01:21:51,947 --> 01:21:54,107
Speaker 26: I'm sure we'll review it. We definitely didn't need to

1615
01:21:54,107 --> 01:21:58,987
Speaker 26: take the risk because, yeah, the car's been very quick,

1616
01:21:59,107 --> 01:22:02,227
Speaker 26: so it's pretty frustrating.

1617
01:22:02,467 --> 01:22:04,747
Speaker 14: How will you use the sprint? You'll try and make

1618
01:22:04,827 --> 01:22:06,307
Speaker 14: up as as money places that you can.

1619
01:22:06,787 --> 01:22:08,707
Speaker 26: Yeah, we've been parked in traffic, so we'll try and

1620
01:22:09,147 --> 01:22:12,747
Speaker 26: learn something that's it's going to be.

1621
01:22:12,747 --> 01:22:16,227
Speaker 2: Something that's a fairly downcast. Liam Lawson so print race

1622
01:22:16,267 --> 01:22:18,707
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning in the Grand Prix event itself in the

1623
01:22:18,747 --> 01:22:22,587
Speaker 2: early hours of Monday morning in sal Parlo. After the

1624
01:22:22,627 --> 01:22:24,507
Speaker 2: news at two, we'll get you to Nelson with the

1625
01:22:24,507 --> 01:22:26,667
Speaker 2: black Caps in the West and these have relocated for

1626
01:22:26,707 --> 01:22:29,867
Speaker 2: games three and four in their five match T twenty

1627
01:22:29,947 --> 01:22:33,387
Speaker 2: series Game three tomorrow, Game four on Monday. Mark Chapman

1628
01:22:33,547 --> 01:22:35,867
Speaker 2: had a really good game at Eden Park on Thursday night,

1629
01:22:36,507 --> 01:22:39,507
Speaker 2: seventy eight off twenty eight balls, as New Zealand eventually

1630
01:22:39,587 --> 01:22:42,347
Speaker 2: got home by three runs in that game. Mark Chapman's

1631
01:22:42,347 --> 01:22:44,627
Speaker 2: on the show after two and will also get you

1632
01:22:44,907 --> 01:22:47,947
Speaker 2: to the Black Foils where Leo Takahashi Flight Controlla will

1633
01:22:48,027 --> 01:22:51,827
Speaker 2: join us. Less than one hundred days until sal GP Auckland.

1634
01:22:53,107 --> 01:22:55,987
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1635
01:22:56,347 --> 01:22:57,547
Speaker 1: and after fields.

1636
01:22:58,027 --> 01:23:01,667
Speaker 3: It's all one James Sport with Jason Paine on your

1637
01:23:01,787 --> 01:23:04,187
Speaker 3: Home of Sport US.

1638
01:23:04,187 --> 01:23:09,427
Speaker 2: Talks passed two or thereabout. I'm Jason Pine, Andy McDonald.

1639
01:23:09,467 --> 01:23:11,547
Speaker 2: The show produces us this weekend Sport on News Talks.

1640
01:23:11,547 --> 01:23:14,507
Speaker 2: He'd until three. Tim Beverage's ready to take over after that.

1641
01:23:14,667 --> 01:23:16,547
Speaker 2: But before we get there, I want to get to

1642
01:23:16,587 --> 01:23:19,147
Speaker 2: inside the Black Boyles camp. It's less than one hundred

1643
01:23:19,227 --> 01:23:22,427
Speaker 2: days now until sal GP returns to Aukland. It was

1644
01:23:22,587 --> 01:23:24,547
Speaker 2: so good, wasn't it? Earlier this year? Even though the

1645
01:23:24,587 --> 01:23:27,987
Speaker 2: Australians won it, the occasion was terrific, so good that

1646
01:23:28,027 --> 01:23:32,107
Speaker 2: they've extended the grand stand. There are more spectator areas

1647
01:23:32,147 --> 01:23:35,587
Speaker 2: this time. Around February fourteen to fifteen of next year

1648
01:23:35,907 --> 01:23:40,067
Speaker 2: is when sal GP will return to Auckland tickets available

1649
01:23:40,147 --> 01:23:44,227
Speaker 2: and selling fast. Leo Takahashi Flight control over the Black

1650
01:23:44,267 --> 01:23:46,987
Speaker 2: Foils is on the show. Before they even think about Auckland.

1651
01:23:47,267 --> 01:23:49,907
Speaker 2: They've got to get to the season finale this year,

1652
01:23:50,387 --> 01:23:52,827
Speaker 2: which is an Abu Dhabi at the end of this month,

1653
01:23:52,907 --> 01:23:55,427
Speaker 2: so how they're tracking towards that and how is Leo

1654
01:23:55,507 --> 01:23:59,587
Speaker 2: Takahashi found it his first full year with the Black Foils,

1655
01:23:59,627 --> 01:24:02,987
Speaker 2: replacing Andy Maloney in that very tight knit team. He's

1656
01:24:03,027 --> 01:24:06,467
Speaker 2: on the show this hour. David Williams, a player who

1657
01:24:06,547 --> 01:24:10,747
Speaker 2: was extremely popular during his time here as a Phoenix footballer,

1658
01:24:11,787 --> 01:24:15,067
Speaker 2: has announced this week that he's leaving Perth Glory, which

1659
01:24:15,147 --> 01:24:18,267
Speaker 2: is his latest football club, and there's no real clarity

1660
01:24:18,347 --> 01:24:20,027
Speaker 2: on where he'll end up next. But I wanted to

1661
01:24:20,067 --> 01:24:22,547
Speaker 2: talk to David Williams because he was so popular during

1662
01:24:22,627 --> 01:24:25,787
Speaker 2: his time here just the one season, but scored a

1663
01:24:25,867 --> 01:24:29,387
Speaker 2: lot of goals, linked up really nicely with Roy Krishner

1664
01:24:29,507 --> 01:24:33,027
Speaker 2: during his time here. Very popular with fans, so whenever

1665
01:24:33,027 --> 01:24:34,707
Speaker 2: you are to him. Mark Chapman out of the Black

1666
01:24:34,747 --> 01:24:38,747
Speaker 2: Cap shortly as well. Game three and four of the

1667
01:24:38,787 --> 01:24:40,827
Speaker 2: five match T twenty series against the Western he's in

1668
01:24:40,907 --> 01:24:44,187
Speaker 2: Nelson Saxton's oval. The lovely Saxton's Oval. What a place

1669
01:24:44,987 --> 01:24:49,067
Speaker 2: to watch cricket and to play cricket at Mark Chapman Shortly,

1670
01:24:49,107 --> 01:24:51,187
Speaker 2: we'll keep you updated on four trophy scores from around

1671
01:24:51,227 --> 01:24:53,907
Speaker 2: the country as well. Our lines of communication are always

1672
01:24:53,947 --> 01:24:56,867
Speaker 2: open for you. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1673
01:24:57,067 --> 01:24:59,187
Speaker 2: our free phone number. You can text your thoughts on

1674
01:24:59,267 --> 01:25:02,187
Speaker 2: anything to nine two ninety two or email Jason at

1675
01:25:02,267 --> 01:25:05,147
Speaker 2: Newstalk SEDB dot co dot enzi. But as we take

1676
01:25:05,227 --> 01:25:08,947
Speaker 2: closer to nine pass two, it's an laboratory time, I know,

1677
01:25:09,107 --> 01:25:11,627
Speaker 2: but it's the time we normally get you up to

1678
01:25:11,747 --> 01:25:15,827
Speaker 2: date with a few things that you may have missed.

1679
01:25:16,587 --> 01:25:20,707
Speaker 2: In case you missed it, the Sporting Edition. Adelaide United

1680
01:25:21,347 --> 01:25:23,747
Speaker 2: picked up and went over the Western Sydney Wanderers last

1681
01:25:23,827 --> 01:25:25,987
Speaker 2: night at home to move to fourth on the A

1682
01:25:26,187 --> 01:25:30,227
Speaker 2: League Ladder. Two strikes in the sixty third and sixty

1683
01:25:30,267 --> 01:25:33,467
Speaker 2: eight minutes. The difference Ivanovitch's working hard across the fourth

1684
01:25:33,507 --> 01:25:36,187
Speaker 2: front of the attack gross is a great a fair

1685
01:25:36,387 --> 01:25:37,147
Speaker 2: great good word.

1686
01:25:40,547 --> 01:25:41,667
Speaker 5: His first goal.

1687
01:25:42,467 --> 01:25:47,667
Speaker 2: Since returning to the Rats, and.

1688
01:25:47,787 --> 01:25:52,987
Speaker 12: Adelaide's all time leading goalscorer has doubled their advantage.

1689
01:25:53,027 --> 01:25:55,587
Speaker 2: Chair here ten all the final squarter Adelaide United over

1690
01:25:55,627 --> 01:25:57,707
Speaker 2: the Western Sydney Wanderers, who actually thought we're going to

1691
01:25:57,747 --> 01:26:00,787
Speaker 2: be quite good, just the one point from their first

1692
01:26:01,307 --> 01:26:06,067
Speaker 2: four games. Meantime, an absolute screamer from Bailey Brentman proved

1693
01:26:06,067 --> 01:26:09,667
Speaker 2: the diference between Central Coast and Perth as the Mariners

1694
01:26:09,787 --> 01:26:12,267
Speaker 2: moved for the meantime anyway up to second on the ladder.

1695
01:26:12,827 --> 01:26:16,427
Speaker 2: For Brandtman, he's one on one with Shimur, cuts back

1696
01:26:16,467 --> 01:26:16,907
Speaker 2: in on to the.

1697
01:26:16,947 --> 01:26:21,267
Speaker 27: Left fot off Dailey Brandon. What a goal, What a

1698
01:26:21,387 --> 01:26:26,307
Speaker 27: way to register your first A League goal. Bailey Brandtman

1699
01:26:26,427 --> 01:26:30,187
Speaker 27: cuts back in on the left foot and sends her

1700
01:26:30,387 --> 01:26:33,547
Speaker 27: flying past helpless Matt Sutton to.

1701
01:26:33,667 --> 01:26:37,587
Speaker 2: The United States scene to the NFL A quite frankly

1702
01:26:37,747 --> 01:26:41,067
Speaker 2: dreadful game, but the Denver Broncos have moved to an

1703
01:26:41,227 --> 01:26:44,867
Speaker 2: NFL best eight and two record with a ten to

1704
01:26:45,027 --> 01:26:51,067
Speaker 2: seven winner over the Las Vegas Raiders under three minutes

1705
01:26:51,147 --> 01:26:54,307
Speaker 2: left in the half. Are we now slips to the outside,

1706
01:26:54,707 --> 01:26:56,747
Speaker 2: next looks that way that over the middle end of

1707
01:26:56,787 --> 01:26:59,747
Speaker 2: the right, throws court into the end zone for the

1708
01:26:59,907 --> 01:27:05,027
Speaker 2: touchdown Troy Franklin and as we heard before too not

1709
01:27:05,107 --> 01:27:09,547
Speaker 2: a great outing for Liam Lawson. In sprint qualifying McLaren's

1710
01:27:09,667 --> 01:27:12,827
Speaker 2: Landown Iris taking pole for the sprint race in South

1711
01:27:12,867 --> 01:27:13,747
Speaker 2: plows to the.

1712
01:27:14,147 --> 01:27:17,827
Speaker 28: Champion of Leader, hanging on to that second row behind

1713
01:27:17,907 --> 01:27:21,027
Speaker 28: this man Kimmy Anzanelli who's lost him at a time.

1714
01:27:21,267 --> 01:27:22,307
Speaker 2: He is definitely going to.

1715
01:27:22,307 --> 01:27:25,267
Speaker 28: Be on the front row for the South Paolo sprints

1716
01:27:25,547 --> 01:27:28,867
Speaker 28: and he lights up alongside Lando Norris hoots have over

1717
01:27:28,947 --> 01:27:32,267
Speaker 28: the championship lea last time outs have Baxi's.

1718
01:27:31,987 --> 01:27:33,027
Speaker 2: First sprint pole.

1719
01:27:33,507 --> 01:27:37,027
Speaker 28: It is Norris on top here on this Friday.

1720
01:27:36,747 --> 01:27:38,987
Speaker 2: Evening in South Paolo's.

1721
01:27:39,067 --> 01:27:42,707
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World

1722
01:27:42,907 --> 01:27:45,667
Speaker 1: weekends forward with Jason Vine call.

1723
01:27:47,227 --> 01:27:50,307
Speaker 2: Us Talk Zivy eleven past two. The black Caps and

1724
01:27:50,387 --> 01:27:53,827
Speaker 2: Wisdonis have relocated to Nilsen for Games three and four

1725
01:27:54,307 --> 01:27:57,187
Speaker 2: in their five match T twenty International cricket series. The

1726
01:27:57,227 --> 01:28:00,227
Speaker 2: black Caps squad the series on Thursday night with a

1727
01:28:00,427 --> 01:28:04,387
Speaker 2: three run victory at Eden Park. Mark Chapman seventy eight

1728
01:28:04,467 --> 01:28:07,147
Speaker 2: off twenty eight balls and three catches the man of

1729
01:28:07,187 --> 01:28:10,267
Speaker 2: the match. It's it hard.

1730
01:28:10,467 --> 01:28:13,027
Speaker 4: You won't get that either, and that's fifteen for Chatman.

1731
01:28:13,107 --> 01:28:16,947
Speaker 12: What at fifty two he's bought it up off nineteen balls,

1732
01:28:18,267 --> 01:28:20,627
Speaker 12: it's your eight. No, it's half folly. It's been plunked

1733
01:28:21,387 --> 01:28:29,307
Speaker 12: into the boundary goes after that and that's going to

1734
01:28:29,347 --> 01:28:33,787
Speaker 12: be six more. That's going to go all the way

1735
01:28:33,867 --> 01:28:37,947
Speaker 12: to six more. Over back with square.

1736
01:28:38,507 --> 01:28:38,707
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1737
01:28:38,747 --> 01:28:40,747
Speaker 2: What an innings from Mark Chapman seventy eight off twenty

1738
01:28:40,827 --> 01:28:43,387
Speaker 2: eight balls. Mark, let's start with that innings of yours.

1739
01:28:43,787 --> 01:28:45,907
Speaker 2: It's obviously coming off the bat. Okay, how do you

1740
01:28:46,307 --> 01:28:48,387
Speaker 2: reflect on your innings on Thursday night?

1741
01:28:49,627 --> 01:28:52,507
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was just one of those

1742
01:28:52,587 --> 01:28:55,107
Speaker 25: days where the balls seemed to find the middle of

1743
01:28:55,147 --> 01:28:58,747
Speaker 25: the bat and you're just enjoying yourself and you're just

1744
01:28:58,827 --> 01:29:01,027
Speaker 25: trying to try to keep it on for as long

1745
01:29:01,067 --> 01:29:03,307
Speaker 25: as you can really. But yeah, no, it was good fun,

1746
01:29:03,787 --> 01:29:06,147
Speaker 25: good to get a match winning score in the end.

1747
01:29:06,467 --> 01:29:06,667
Speaker 14: Team.

1748
01:29:06,907 --> 01:29:08,387
Speaker 2: You did look a bit annoyed when you got out.

1749
01:29:08,427 --> 01:29:11,267
Speaker 2: I guess that's natural when you're batting well. But did

1750
01:29:11,307 --> 01:29:13,427
Speaker 2: you feel like there were more runs out there for you?

1751
01:29:14,587 --> 01:29:14,747
Speaker 5: Oh?

1752
01:29:14,867 --> 01:29:16,427
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I guess when you're going like that,

1753
01:29:16,587 --> 01:29:18,267
Speaker 18: you just want to want it to carry on as

1754
01:29:18,307 --> 01:29:21,547
Speaker 18: long as you can. Yeah, we're just having fun out there,

1755
01:29:21,627 --> 01:29:22,027
Speaker 18: Daryl and I.

1756
01:29:22,147 --> 01:29:25,507
Speaker 25: We we're enjoying ourselves and yeah, it's nice to put

1757
01:29:25,547 --> 01:29:27,307
Speaker 25: the West Indies boys under a bit of pressure.

1758
01:29:27,587 --> 01:29:29,747
Speaker 2: In T twenty cricket, you don't often get the chance

1759
01:29:29,827 --> 01:29:32,347
Speaker 2: do You're to bat with someone for a long time.

1760
01:29:32,507 --> 01:29:34,987
Speaker 2: Partnerships might only be three or four overs, But even

1761
01:29:35,067 --> 01:29:39,707
Speaker 2: in that shorter time, are partnerships still quite important in

1762
01:29:39,787 --> 01:29:40,547
Speaker 2: this form of the game.

1763
01:29:41,267 --> 01:29:41,427
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1764
01:29:41,427 --> 01:29:42,027
Speaker 18: Absolutely.

1765
01:29:42,107 --> 01:29:45,547
Speaker 25: I think you know, something that's really important is communicating

1766
01:29:45,587 --> 01:29:48,267
Speaker 25: with your partner around you know which sort of bowler

1767
01:29:48,387 --> 01:29:51,547
Speaker 25: to target, or you know whether you're feeling a certain

1768
01:29:51,787 --> 01:29:54,667
Speaker 25: sort of end that you prefer or a certain style

1769
01:29:54,707 --> 01:29:57,547
Speaker 25: of bowling. So yeah, I think you know it's it's

1770
01:29:57,627 --> 01:30:01,427
Speaker 25: probably underestimated and T twenty cricket how important the partnership

1771
01:30:01,507 --> 01:30:02,027
Speaker 25: actually is.

1772
01:30:02,187 --> 01:30:05,707
Speaker 18: And just communicating with your partner on that yeah, super important.

1773
01:30:05,947 --> 01:30:09,107
Speaker 2: What about coming in mark and pretty much going from

1774
01:30:09,427 --> 01:30:12,027
Speaker 2: ball one? Is there an acquired skill to that to

1775
01:30:12,227 --> 01:30:15,827
Speaker 2: being able to play run scoring strokes pretty much immediately?

1776
01:30:16,827 --> 01:30:17,027
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1777
01:30:17,147 --> 01:30:19,827
Speaker 25: Well, I guess the benefit of sort of not I

1778
01:30:19,947 --> 01:30:22,027
Speaker 25: guess not opening is you get to have a look

1779
01:30:22,067 --> 01:30:25,707
Speaker 25: at you know, what's happening up the top, and then

1780
01:30:26,787 --> 01:30:28,907
Speaker 25: I guess you get a pretty good feel for things

1781
01:30:29,427 --> 01:30:32,747
Speaker 25: straight away, and sometimes you can sort of get the

1782
01:30:32,787 --> 01:30:35,627
Speaker 25: pace of a wicket within a few balls at times,

1783
01:30:35,747 --> 01:30:39,347
Speaker 25: but sometimes it can take a bit longer. So yeah,

1784
01:30:39,387 --> 01:30:41,947
Speaker 25: I guess it's just being really clear on the rests

1785
01:30:41,987 --> 01:30:44,347
Speaker 25: that you take and stacking them in your favor.

1786
01:30:44,907 --> 01:30:47,707
Speaker 2: How much has the way you bat personally and T

1787
01:30:47,907 --> 01:30:51,787
Speaker 2: twenty changed during your now well over a decade playing

1788
01:30:51,827 --> 01:30:52,547
Speaker 2: this form of the game.

1789
01:30:53,707 --> 01:30:58,027
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I've always tried to have,

1790
01:30:58,347 --> 01:31:02,187
Speaker 25: you know, like a high intent when of that. Yeah,

1791
01:31:02,227 --> 01:31:04,747
Speaker 25: I guess you know, you sort of evolve in your

1792
01:31:04,787 --> 01:31:06,987
Speaker 25: start of play, but it's making sure that you really

1793
01:31:07,027 --> 01:31:10,867
Speaker 25: embrace your strengths and understand, you know, your own individual

1794
01:31:10,947 --> 01:31:11,587
Speaker 25: style of play.

1795
01:31:12,507 --> 01:31:14,427
Speaker 18: I think for me, I've become a lot clearer in

1796
01:31:14,547 --> 01:31:16,707
Speaker 18: that as I've got a little bit older.

1797
01:31:16,787 --> 01:31:20,107
Speaker 25: But I guess you know, these days, you know, scores

1798
01:31:20,107 --> 01:31:21,987
Speaker 25: are a little bit higher, So it's just making sure

1799
01:31:22,067 --> 01:31:26,227
Speaker 25: that you're attacking instincts at the floor when you're playing.

1800
01:31:26,467 --> 01:31:30,107
Speaker 2: Have you found that you have increased your scoring areas

1801
01:31:30,267 --> 01:31:33,107
Speaker 2: or have you just become more efficient than the ones

1802
01:31:33,147 --> 01:31:34,787
Speaker 2: that were good anyway? I mean, for example, does your

1803
01:31:34,867 --> 01:31:38,147
Speaker 2: wagon wheel still look the same as it always did,

1804
01:31:38,307 --> 01:31:40,427
Speaker 2: or are there new places you're scoring runs now?

1805
01:31:43,467 --> 01:31:45,507
Speaker 25: I don't really think so, to be honest, I think

1806
01:31:45,507 --> 01:31:49,307
Speaker 25: it's just it's sticking to your strengths, I guess for

1807
01:31:49,427 --> 01:31:51,707
Speaker 25: me being someone who is probably a little bit smaller

1808
01:31:51,747 --> 01:31:54,867
Speaker 25: in stature, probably slightly slightly more square of the wicket.

1809
01:31:55,787 --> 01:31:57,227
Speaker 14: But I also back myself to.

1810
01:31:57,227 --> 01:31:59,947
Speaker 25: Hit down the ground as well, so you know, I've

1811
01:31:59,947 --> 01:32:01,947
Speaker 25: always had the sort of scoops and things like that

1812
01:32:02,107 --> 01:32:04,987
Speaker 25: as well. So I'll probably call on those less than

1813
01:32:05,027 --> 01:32:07,587
Speaker 25: I used to because of trying to myself with my

1814
01:32:07,707 --> 01:32:08,067
Speaker 25: Plan A.

1815
01:32:08,267 --> 01:32:10,107
Speaker 18: But you've still got to have your Plan B and

1816
01:32:10,187 --> 01:32:11,107
Speaker 18: your Plan C as well.

1817
01:32:11,347 --> 01:32:13,307
Speaker 2: So two o seven the other night at the innings break,

1818
01:32:13,347 --> 01:32:14,267
Speaker 2: did that feel like enough?

1819
01:32:16,787 --> 01:32:18,667
Speaker 25: To be honest, that Eden Park, you never feel like

1820
01:32:18,707 --> 01:32:21,907
Speaker 25: you have enough depend Yeah, no matter no matter how

1821
01:32:21,987 --> 01:32:25,827
Speaker 25: many you get. You know, obviously with some of the dimensions,

1822
01:32:26,067 --> 01:32:29,147
Speaker 25: the chasing team is always in the game. And to

1823
01:32:29,227 --> 01:32:32,587
Speaker 25: be honest, the West Indies batting lineup is pretty deep

1824
01:32:32,667 --> 01:32:34,587
Speaker 25: and as we saw last night, was one of the

1825
01:32:34,627 --> 01:32:37,267
Speaker 25: most explosive and powerful batting lineups and wet of crickets.

1826
01:32:37,347 --> 01:32:40,947
Speaker 18: So you know, even even when they needed ninety runs

1827
01:32:40,987 --> 01:32:41,507
Speaker 18: at three a.

1828
01:32:41,547 --> 01:32:44,747
Speaker 25: Ball, you know, we sort of knew that that they

1829
01:32:44,827 --> 01:32:47,347
Speaker 25: went out of the game just because the power they possessed.

1830
01:32:47,427 --> 01:32:50,627
Speaker 25: So I mean, well, we're well aware of that threat

1831
01:32:50,667 --> 01:32:52,587
Speaker 25: and so we're trying to mitigate that as much as

1832
01:32:52,627 --> 01:32:52,907
Speaker 25: we can.

1833
01:32:53,267 --> 01:32:55,867
Speaker 2: How though, how do you mitigate it? How do you

1834
01:32:55,987 --> 01:32:57,947
Speaker 2: defend a ground like that?

1835
01:32:58,827 --> 01:33:01,507
Speaker 25: Yeah, well, I think I guess it was obvious to

1836
01:33:01,587 --> 01:33:03,827
Speaker 25: see that, you know, if we didn't quite execute our

1837
01:33:03,907 --> 01:33:06,267
Speaker 25: plan that you know, the ball was going to say

1838
01:33:06,467 --> 01:33:09,307
Speaker 25: over the ropes. But I think you know, one thing

1839
01:33:09,387 --> 01:33:11,347
Speaker 25: that the bowlers did amazingly well is that as they

1840
01:33:11,427 --> 01:33:13,947
Speaker 25: tried to stay ahead of the game around not being

1841
01:33:13,987 --> 01:33:18,347
Speaker 25: too predictable with what they bowled. Sometimes if you get

1842
01:33:18,427 --> 01:33:21,307
Speaker 25: set in one plan and and you mess, it's it's

1843
01:33:21,387 --> 01:33:23,267
Speaker 25: just a matter of messing by a few inches and

1844
01:33:23,307 --> 01:33:25,387
Speaker 25: the ball will go over the ropes. So, you know,

1845
01:33:25,467 --> 01:33:27,467
Speaker 25: I guess from from a bowling point of view, it

1846
01:33:27,587 --> 01:33:30,627
Speaker 25: was really encouraging to see how proactive the bowlers were

1847
01:33:30,787 --> 01:33:32,947
Speaker 25: and and you know how they backed themselves. You know,

1848
01:33:33,067 --> 01:33:35,547
Speaker 25: Kyle at the end there it's both three slow balls

1849
01:33:35,787 --> 01:33:38,187
Speaker 25: in a row to close a game out. There's probably

1850
01:33:38,427 --> 01:33:40,787
Speaker 25: something that we don't see that often, but you know,

1851
01:33:40,827 --> 01:33:42,867
Speaker 25: it's amazing to see that he just backed that skill

1852
01:33:42,987 --> 01:33:45,467
Speaker 25: and executed and you know won the game for us.

1853
01:33:45,747 --> 01:33:48,107
Speaker 2: And speaking of backing skills, your skills in the field

1854
01:33:48,307 --> 01:33:51,427
Speaker 2: three catches, one particularly eye catching one and the deep

1855
01:33:51,827 --> 01:33:53,907
Speaker 2: there's fielding something you take pride in in terms of

1856
01:33:53,947 --> 01:33:55,347
Speaker 2: catching but also saving runs.

1857
01:33:56,147 --> 01:33:58,587
Speaker 25: Yeah, well, you know, I guess you know, for us

1858
01:33:58,787 --> 01:34:01,227
Speaker 25: as a team, it's it's a it's a really good

1859
01:34:01,307 --> 01:34:04,587
Speaker 25: metric on how we're going if if we're if we're

1860
01:34:05,187 --> 01:34:07,387
Speaker 25: have energy in the field and you know, and we're

1861
01:34:07,387 --> 01:34:09,747
Speaker 25: throwing ourselves around. Not to say that we're going to

1862
01:34:09,827 --> 01:34:12,507
Speaker 25: take every single chance that presents itself, but you know,

1863
01:34:12,627 --> 01:34:14,747
Speaker 25: more often than not, if we're looking for the ball

1864
01:34:14,867 --> 01:34:17,067
Speaker 25: and trying to be as aggressive as we can in

1865
01:34:17,107 --> 01:34:19,467
Speaker 25: the field, then you know, that's a really good metric

1866
01:34:19,547 --> 01:34:19,907
Speaker 25: for us.

1867
01:34:20,387 --> 01:34:22,587
Speaker 18: As a team. And you know we've been working hard

1868
01:34:22,667 --> 01:34:23,627
Speaker 18: on that behind the scenes.

1869
01:34:23,907 --> 01:34:25,667
Speaker 2: And there's a World Cup not too far away in

1870
01:34:25,707 --> 01:34:29,507
Speaker 2: this format early twenty twenty six. Are you, personally and

1871
01:34:29,627 --> 01:34:32,467
Speaker 2: as a team now building towards that World Cup? Pretty

1872
01:34:32,547 --> 01:34:34,547
Speaker 2: much every time you play a game of T twenty.

1873
01:34:36,147 --> 01:34:38,307
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, people have been

1874
01:34:38,387 --> 01:34:40,867
Speaker 25: mentioning the World Cup, but you know, between now and

1875
01:34:41,547 --> 01:34:43,307
Speaker 25: our first game, we've got a lot of cricket to

1876
01:34:43,347 --> 01:34:43,747
Speaker 25: be played.

1877
01:34:43,827 --> 01:34:46,227
Speaker 18: So to be honest, our focus is firmly here.

1878
01:34:46,347 --> 01:34:49,667
Speaker 25: We've got an exciting series on our hands, you know,

1879
01:34:49,787 --> 01:34:51,947
Speaker 25: one all against the West Indies boys. We've got back

1880
01:34:51,947 --> 01:34:54,707
Speaker 25: to back games here at Nelson and then finish off

1881
01:34:54,747 --> 01:34:57,387
Speaker 25: in Dunedin, so you know that's fairly at the front

1882
01:34:57,427 --> 01:35:00,947
Speaker 25: of our minds. And yeah, we will shift our focus

1883
01:35:01,067 --> 01:35:02,747
Speaker 25: when's appropriate for the World Cup.

1884
01:35:02,987 --> 01:35:06,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, wonderful spot Nelson. I don't think you've played personally, Marke.

1885
01:35:06,347 --> 01:35:07,907
Speaker 2: We have a lot of international cricket there. I think

1886
01:35:08,267 --> 01:35:10,107
Speaker 2: a T twenty in a one day perhaps is all

1887
01:35:10,147 --> 01:35:12,267
Speaker 2: you've you've played there. Looking forward to a couple of

1888
01:35:12,347 --> 01:35:13,587
Speaker 2: games at Saxton's.

1889
01:35:14,267 --> 01:35:18,067
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a beautiful ground. Yeah, I think we had.

1890
01:35:18,267 --> 01:35:20,947
Speaker 25: I had a T twenty here against Sri Lanka last

1891
01:35:20,987 --> 01:35:23,147
Speaker 25: year and it was a sellout, so you know we're

1892
01:35:23,187 --> 01:35:26,267
Speaker 25: expecting the same. You know, the crowd will really turn

1893
01:35:26,427 --> 01:35:28,987
Speaker 25: up and you know, hopefully they can see some exciting cricket.

1894
01:35:29,067 --> 01:35:30,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope. So Hey, thanks for joining us, Mark,

1895
01:35:30,827 --> 01:35:32,427
Speaker 2: congrats on a great endings the other night. All the

1896
01:35:32,467 --> 01:35:33,507
Speaker 2: best for the rest of the series.

1897
01:35:34,027 --> 01:35:35,227
Speaker 18: Brilliant thanks Jason.

1898
01:35:35,067 --> 01:35:36,547
Speaker 2: No, thank you Mark. Mark Chapman there out of the

1899
01:35:36,587 --> 01:35:38,707
Speaker 2: black Caps, so one all were three games to go.

1900
01:35:38,947 --> 01:35:42,147
Speaker 2: The next tour in Nelson has mentioned tomorrow at one

1901
01:35:42,267 --> 01:35:45,347
Speaker 2: fifteen and then Monday at one fifteen. The fifth and

1902
01:35:45,427 --> 01:35:48,027
Speaker 2: final game of the T twenty series is in Dneed

1903
01:35:48,107 --> 01:35:51,747
Speaker 2: and on Thursday, also one fifteen start. Then it's three

1904
01:35:51,867 --> 01:35:56,507
Speaker 2: One Day Internationals in christ Church, Napier and Hamilton on

1905
01:35:56,627 --> 01:36:00,787
Speaker 2: November sixteen, nineteen and twenty two. And then they put

1906
01:36:00,827 --> 01:36:02,427
Speaker 2: the Whites on on and get the red ball out

1907
01:36:02,467 --> 01:36:05,267
Speaker 2: for three Test matches in December December two to six

1908
01:36:05,347 --> 01:36:08,587
Speaker 2: and christ Church December ten to fourteen in Wellington and

1909
01:36:08,787 --> 01:36:11,667
Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty two at Mount Monganui. So plenty of

1910
01:36:11,707 --> 01:36:15,107
Speaker 2: cricket to come before Christmas. Between the black Caps and

1911
01:36:15,307 --> 01:36:18,867
Speaker 2: the West Indies twenty past two just updated on Ford

1912
01:36:18,947 --> 01:36:22,107
Speaker 2: Trophy innings break and all three of these matches in

1913
01:36:22,187 --> 01:36:26,947
Speaker 2: Auckland Central three thirty seven for five in their fifty overs,

1914
01:36:26,987 --> 01:36:28,947
Speaker 2: Brad Shuleman batting right the way through one hundred and

1915
01:36:29,027 --> 01:36:32,107
Speaker 2: thirty six not out Tom Bruce sixty three or thirty

1916
01:36:32,227 --> 01:36:35,067
Speaker 2: nine balls, so Auckland chasing three point thirty eight to

1917
01:36:35,147 --> 01:36:37,827
Speaker 2: beat Central at Eden Park's Outer Oval down the Road

1918
01:36:37,907 --> 01:36:40,067
Speaker 2: in Hamilton nor the district's two hundred and ten for

1919
01:36:40,227 --> 01:36:43,147
Speaker 2: eight in their fifty overs. Canterbury will begin their chase

1920
01:36:43,347 --> 01:36:48,107
Speaker 2: shortly around our Capua three for thirty for Canterbury, Michael

1921
01:36:48,267 --> 01:36:51,507
Speaker 2: Ray three for forty three and at the base in reserve.

1922
01:36:51,707 --> 01:36:54,987
Speaker 2: Otago bowled out on the penultimate delivery of their fifty

1923
01:36:55,027 --> 01:36:58,307
Speaker 2: overs for two hundred and twenty seven by Wellington. Top

1924
01:36:58,387 --> 01:37:02,267
Speaker 2: scorer was Max Chew, the wickeeper with fifty seven. Look

1925
01:37:02,347 --> 01:37:05,307
Speaker 2: Georgeison forty from the bowling point of view, Petty young

1926
01:37:05,387 --> 01:37:10,027
Speaker 2: husband thirty nine off his ten overs. When we come back.

1927
01:37:10,187 --> 01:37:12,747
Speaker 2: We're inside the Black Foyles camp as they look forward

1928
01:37:12,747 --> 01:37:16,307
Speaker 2: to a couple of things, the SALGP twenty twenty five

1929
01:37:16,427 --> 01:37:18,947
Speaker 2: Grand Final at the back end of this month and

1930
01:37:19,347 --> 01:37:23,147
Speaker 2: returning to Auckland for sle GP Auckland in February of

1931
01:37:23,307 --> 01:37:26,747
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Flight controller Leo Tuckerhush, you're going to

1932
01:37:26,827 --> 01:37:27,427
Speaker 2: join us after this.

1933
01:37:28,427 --> 01:37:32,307
Speaker 3: It's more than just a game. Weekend sport with Jason

1934
01:37:32,387 --> 01:37:33,427
Speaker 3: kne and GJ.

1935
01:37:33,667 --> 01:37:37,387
Speaker 1: Garnobs, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Dogs B.

1936
01:37:38,067 --> 01:37:41,267
Speaker 2: Two twenty four. Dave from Queenstown on text, Jason, I

1937
01:37:41,307 --> 01:37:43,307
Speaker 2: think Mark Chapman's and things the other night was amazing,

1938
01:37:43,507 --> 01:37:45,827
Speaker 2: exactly what fans want to see in T twenty cricket.

1939
01:37:45,827 --> 01:37:48,467
Speaker 2: I hope he backs himself to keep being aggressive. If

1940
01:37:48,507 --> 01:37:50,187
Speaker 2: you fire once or twice, so be it. But when

1941
01:37:50,227 --> 01:37:52,747
Speaker 2: it goes well, we saw how good he is bang

1942
01:37:52,827 --> 01:37:55,547
Speaker 2: on Dave and I think Mark Chapman often becomes a

1943
01:37:55,627 --> 01:37:57,587
Speaker 2: player who you look at and he gets a couple

1944
01:37:57,587 --> 01:37:59,627
Speaker 2: of low scores and people start questioning his place in

1945
01:37:59,707 --> 01:38:02,787
Speaker 2: the side. He's clearly a terrific T twenty cricketer. Less

1946
01:38:02,867 --> 01:38:06,027
Speaker 2: than one hundred days until SALGP hits Auckland again February

1947
01:38:06,027 --> 01:38:09,307
Speaker 2: fourteen and fifteen. It'll be event two of the twenty

1948
01:38:09,427 --> 01:38:13,547
Speaker 2: twenty six calendar. Australia certainly enjoyed the first Auckland event

1949
01:38:13,667 --> 01:38:14,387
Speaker 2: earlier this year.

1950
01:38:14,987 --> 01:38:17,507
Speaker 12: As they bring it home and there's the first line,

1951
01:38:17,787 --> 01:38:20,427
Speaker 12: the sold out crowd will bring them home. They'd rather

1952
01:38:20,547 --> 01:38:22,867
Speaker 12: see black walls, but they're going to see green and gold.

1953
01:38:23,267 --> 01:38:24,147
Speaker 3: As they come to the.

1954
01:38:24,227 --> 01:38:27,907
Speaker 12: Line, the Emirates putty moment goes the way of the Australians.

1955
01:38:29,147 --> 01:38:31,507
Speaker 2: Still one event to go in twenty twenty five, the

1956
01:38:31,547 --> 01:38:34,507
Speaker 2: Grand Final in three weeks time in Abu Dhabi. Great

1957
01:38:34,547 --> 01:38:37,947
Speaker 2: to welcome in Black Foil's flight controller Leo Takahashi. Leo,

1958
01:38:38,027 --> 01:38:40,067
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. Less than one hundred days until

1959
01:38:40,067 --> 01:38:42,387
Speaker 2: you're back in Auckland. But how are you're tracking towards

1960
01:38:42,467 --> 01:38:45,507
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five final in about three weeks time?

1961
01:38:46,147 --> 01:38:48,267
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's good. Thanks, ye, one hundred days to go

1962
01:38:48,307 --> 01:38:48,787
Speaker 19: to Auckland.

1963
01:38:48,827 --> 01:38:50,987
Speaker 21: It's weird to be celebrating a mass done by that

1964
01:38:51,107 --> 01:38:53,267
Speaker 21: when we still have one more event to go in

1965
01:38:53,347 --> 01:38:56,507
Speaker 21: the in the in the last event of the season.

1966
01:38:56,627 --> 01:38:59,947
Speaker 21: But Abudabi, the preps going well. We've had a nice

1967
01:38:59,947 --> 01:39:03,507
Speaker 21: little break after our event in Spain, a couple of

1968
01:39:03,507 --> 01:39:05,627
Speaker 21: weeks off and then we're kind of kind of starting

1969
01:39:05,667 --> 01:39:08,747
Speaker 21: to wrap things up with prep and yeah, just thinking

1970
01:39:08,827 --> 01:39:12,107
Speaker 21: about the light wins and the grand final, the three boat.

1971
01:39:12,627 --> 01:39:14,667
Speaker 19: When it takes all there, we could be having a Nabadhabi.

1972
01:39:14,867 --> 01:39:17,947
Speaker 2: Just give us the lowdown on the format. You still

1973
01:39:17,987 --> 01:39:20,307
Speaker 2: have fleet races first, right, and then it's the top

1974
01:39:20,427 --> 01:39:23,027
Speaker 2: three at the back end of Abu Dubbi, Is that right?

1975
01:39:23,867 --> 01:39:24,067
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1976
01:39:24,147 --> 01:39:27,227
Speaker 21: Correct, We still have a full fleet series, so we've

1977
01:39:27,227 --> 01:39:30,627
Speaker 21: still left seven races over the two days, and then

1978
01:39:31,227 --> 01:39:34,027
Speaker 21: we still have to basically qualify ourselves into that Grand Final.

1979
01:39:34,147 --> 01:39:37,427
Speaker 21: So right now we're second overall with the Ossis and

1980
01:39:37,467 --> 01:39:40,307
Speaker 21: the Spanish still behind us, and then the Brits a

1981
01:39:40,947 --> 01:39:43,907
Speaker 21: couple of points behind, so still have to perform on

1982
01:39:44,027 --> 01:39:46,107
Speaker 21: the first couple of fleet races and then kind of

1983
01:39:46,147 --> 01:39:47,107
Speaker 21: solidify I'll.

1984
01:39:47,587 --> 01:39:50,067
Speaker 19: Place into the final and then it's when it takes

1985
01:39:50,107 --> 01:39:51,827
Speaker 19: all for that big prize.

1986
01:39:52,187 --> 01:39:55,627
Speaker 2: How do you reflect on twenty twenty five as a whole?

1987
01:39:55,707 --> 01:39:57,707
Speaker 2: They say that elite sport can be a roller coaster.

1988
01:39:57,747 --> 01:39:59,427
Speaker 2: Would that be a fair description of this year?

1989
01:40:01,107 --> 01:40:04,787
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's definitely had its ups and downs, but you know,

1990
01:40:04,907 --> 01:40:05,947
Speaker 19: definitely more ups.

1991
01:40:06,467 --> 01:40:09,267
Speaker 21: Or you know, it's it's been a challenging season just

1992
01:40:09,347 --> 01:40:13,747
Speaker 21: for the front the early early start of the season

1993
01:40:14,307 --> 01:40:17,027
Speaker 21: having a few gear issues and then just trying to

1994
01:40:17,107 --> 01:40:19,227
Speaker 21: gel with the team and then you know, this back

1995
01:40:19,307 --> 01:40:22,467
Speaker 21: half it's just been trying to perform and you know

1996
01:40:22,827 --> 01:40:25,987
Speaker 21: the team has shelled and we're just trying to find

1997
01:40:26,027 --> 01:40:27,227
Speaker 21: a little bit steak out.

1998
01:40:28,667 --> 01:40:31,107
Speaker 19: But you know, in Spain, we you know.

1999
01:40:31,107 --> 01:40:32,587
Speaker 21: We came off the back of a tough event in

2000
01:40:32,667 --> 01:40:36,147
Speaker 21: Geneva and the points are actually super tight, and then

2001
01:40:36,267 --> 01:40:38,627
Speaker 21: the team had had to have a really good result

2002
01:40:38,707 --> 01:40:41,427
Speaker 21: in Spain, and you know, we came away and worked

2003
01:40:41,427 --> 01:40:43,667
Speaker 21: real hard on what went wrong and and then we

2004
01:40:43,747 --> 01:40:46,107
Speaker 21: had a really good event in Spain. We were kind

2005
01:40:46,147 --> 01:40:48,507
Speaker 21: of in there about to win the final, but then

2006
01:40:48,867 --> 01:40:51,387
Speaker 21: you know, the Brits pipped us. But the fact we

2007
01:40:51,467 --> 01:40:53,867
Speaker 21: got a second there and kind of built a bit

2008
01:40:53,907 --> 01:40:55,587
Speaker 21: of a lead on the back on the Spanish and

2009
01:40:55,587 --> 01:40:58,907
Speaker 21: the Aussie to kind of solidify that second place overall.

2010
01:40:59,067 --> 01:41:00,627
Speaker 19: Was That's what I'm real happy with.

2011
01:41:00,987 --> 01:41:03,107
Speaker 2: You mentioned that we're gelling there a couple of times.

2012
01:41:03,187 --> 01:41:04,947
Speaker 2: As we all know, you came in to replace Andy

2013
01:41:04,987 --> 01:41:07,667
Speaker 2: Maloney and the Black Foils, and I remember speaking with

2014
01:41:07,787 --> 01:41:10,427
Speaker 2: you early in the year and you were saying very

2015
01:41:10,467 --> 01:41:12,667
Speaker 2: keen to try and gel with this team. What's that

2016
01:41:12,787 --> 01:41:15,507
Speaker 2: process been like for you, Leo, as you've as you've

2017
01:41:15,587 --> 01:41:18,467
Speaker 2: tried to find those connections and have found those connections

2018
01:41:18,587 --> 01:41:20,947
Speaker 2: and to gel with the Black Foils team.

2019
01:41:22,667 --> 01:41:24,907
Speaker 21: Yeah, like I said, it's we have a real great

2020
01:41:24,987 --> 01:41:29,507
Speaker 21: culture in the Black Foils, and it's about our challenges

2021
01:41:29,587 --> 01:41:30,707
Speaker 21: with everyone being known.

2022
01:41:30,627 --> 01:41:31,747
Speaker 19: In different places at once.

2023
01:41:31,867 --> 01:41:34,827
Speaker 21: But when we're all together, the team work really well

2024
01:41:34,907 --> 01:41:37,667
Speaker 21: together and and hard as well in the behind the scenes.

2025
01:41:37,747 --> 01:41:40,707
Speaker 19: So for me, I know I've got the skills to

2026
01:41:41,267 --> 01:41:44,027
Speaker 19: do a great flight controller. It's just all about learning.

2027
01:41:43,827 --> 01:41:46,947
Speaker 21: The tendencies of how everyone works in the team and

2028
01:41:47,067 --> 01:41:49,547
Speaker 21: I help piece to the bow and how Bla trims

2029
01:41:49,627 --> 01:41:51,867
Speaker 21: wing and then yeah, just trying to work through that

2030
01:41:52,987 --> 01:41:54,907
Speaker 21: and then yeah, we've had a lot of different conditions

2031
01:41:54,947 --> 01:41:58,387
Speaker 21: this year, mainly light like when in the recent in

2032
01:41:58,467 --> 01:42:01,587
Speaker 21: a few events, so just real being on top of

2033
01:42:01,627 --> 01:42:03,907
Speaker 21: the game when it goes from being real light or

2034
01:42:04,027 --> 01:42:06,227
Speaker 21: real real windy, because it's the team that kind of

2035
01:42:06,387 --> 01:42:09,587
Speaker 21: settles into that pace as soon as you can first

2036
01:42:10,427 --> 01:42:13,467
Speaker 21: that that does well in those events, and ultimately the

2037
01:42:13,587 --> 01:42:15,027
Speaker 21: consistency throughout the season.

2038
01:42:15,507 --> 01:42:18,347
Speaker 2: You get a mountain of data, I'm sure after every race,

2039
01:42:18,427 --> 01:42:21,867
Speaker 2: probably after every leg of every race, when you look

2040
01:42:21,907 --> 01:42:25,107
Speaker 2: at your data, what is more important? Is it flight

2041
01:42:25,227 --> 01:42:29,147
Speaker 2: time or is it stability? Once you're up on the foils.

2042
01:42:30,867 --> 01:42:33,947
Speaker 21: It's basically, when it's light winds, it will be flight time,

2043
01:42:35,147 --> 01:42:35,867
Speaker 21: and then yeah.

2044
01:42:35,747 --> 01:42:38,227
Speaker 19: When it's when we're consistently foiling, it will be stability.

2045
01:42:39,467 --> 01:42:41,307
Speaker 21: You know that anyone can be a kind of hero

2046
01:42:41,507 --> 01:42:44,307
Speaker 21: and fly the boat super high, but if the stability

2047
01:42:44,387 --> 01:42:45,467
Speaker 21: is not there, it's it's.

2048
01:42:45,427 --> 01:42:47,147
Speaker 19: You know, you're not going to be getting the performance

2049
01:42:47,187 --> 01:42:47,747
Speaker 19: out of the boat.

2050
01:42:47,827 --> 01:42:51,267
Speaker 21: So I'm just trying to find that balance between flying

2051
01:42:51,387 --> 01:42:54,867
Speaker 21: super high and having enough stability that the team can

2052
01:42:54,947 --> 01:42:57,427
Speaker 21: make the decisions around the course. So that's what I

2053
01:42:57,507 --> 01:42:59,627
Speaker 21: look for in the data there is there are lots

2054
01:42:59,627 --> 01:43:01,867
Speaker 21: of data, and you can kind of really get into

2055
01:43:01,947 --> 01:43:06,227
Speaker 21: rabbit holes comparing itself with other teams and how you're going.

2056
01:43:06,387 --> 01:43:08,747
Speaker 21: But yeah, the main things are, you know, how your

2057
01:43:08,787 --> 01:43:12,827
Speaker 21: speed is around the course. The starts had been a

2058
01:43:12,987 --> 01:43:15,667
Speaker 21: kind of big statistic. You know that some of the

2059
01:43:15,747 --> 01:43:18,987
Speaker 21: other teams has definitely had some good mark one averages

2060
01:43:19,107 --> 01:43:21,667
Speaker 21: from the start, so just trying to figure out how.

2061
01:43:21,587 --> 01:43:22,147
Speaker 19: They're doing that.

2062
01:43:22,467 --> 01:43:24,387
Speaker 21: And then yeah, for me and Blair who kind of

2063
01:43:24,427 --> 01:43:27,747
Speaker 21: look after this speed stuff, trying to figure out where

2064
01:43:27,787 --> 01:43:30,147
Speaker 21: the games are made and how we can really get

2065
01:43:30,187 --> 01:43:31,307
Speaker 21: the potential out of the boat.

2066
01:43:31,387 --> 01:43:33,307
Speaker 19: But yeah, basically stability.

2067
01:43:33,707 --> 01:43:37,267
Speaker 21: Definitely a flight but we were falling, But yeah, flight

2068
01:43:37,387 --> 01:43:39,427
Speaker 21: is super important to staying on the foils and that

2069
01:43:39,547 --> 01:43:40,627
Speaker 21: really light, fickle breeze.

2070
01:43:41,067 --> 01:43:43,707
Speaker 2: You travel the world during Sole GP and it's great

2071
01:43:43,747 --> 01:43:46,427
Speaker 2: to have an event in New Zealand. Again, how much

2072
01:43:46,507 --> 01:43:49,787
Speaker 2: did you enjoy sailing on home waters earlier this year?

2073
01:43:49,827 --> 01:43:51,907
Speaker 2: Even though the result didn't go the way you probably hoped.

2074
01:43:52,067 --> 01:43:53,787
Speaker 2: What was it like sailing on home waters?

2075
01:43:55,267 --> 01:43:58,467
Speaker 19: Oh, it was amazing. It's on boarders that I grew

2076
01:43:58,587 --> 01:44:01,787
Speaker 19: up sailing on. And you know, even just the thought

2077
01:44:01,827 --> 01:44:03,987
Speaker 19: of you know, falling.

2078
01:44:03,707 --> 01:44:06,307
Speaker 21: At forty knights around Auckland Harbor was a dream come true.

2079
01:44:07,267 --> 01:44:09,947
Speaker 21: Toged that off with my family and friends being there

2080
01:44:10,227 --> 01:44:13,307
Speaker 21: and all the fans that showed up and showed their support,

2081
01:44:13,347 --> 01:44:16,187
Speaker 21: it was truly a dream come true. So now I'm

2082
01:44:16,227 --> 01:44:19,147
Speaker 21: really excited for the twenty twenty sixth edition. The grand

2083
01:44:19,227 --> 01:44:21,867
Speaker 21: stands are going to be even bigger, so that the

2084
01:44:21,947 --> 01:44:24,667
Speaker 21: fans that missed out last year they can get a ticket.

2085
01:44:24,547 --> 01:44:26,907
Speaker 19: And make sure that they're missed out. And yeah, it's

2086
01:44:26,947 --> 01:44:28,947
Speaker 19: going to be a great day out. It always is here.

2087
01:44:28,947 --> 01:44:31,987
Speaker 21: We's love a bit of watching some sailing in the

2088
01:44:32,067 --> 01:44:36,027
Speaker 21: sun and you know, just enjoying a real cool atmosphere

2089
01:44:36,267 --> 01:44:40,907
Speaker 21: of Kiwi sports. So the fact that it's making it

2090
01:44:40,987 --> 01:44:44,547
Speaker 21: more easier for fans to watch sailing, I'm really.

2091
01:44:44,427 --> 01:44:46,587
Speaker 19: Happy about it. And it's cool to see the sport

2092
01:44:46,627 --> 01:44:47,347
Speaker 19: growing so fast.

2093
01:44:47,467 --> 01:44:49,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely couldn't agree more. Looking forward to being there

2094
01:44:50,267 --> 01:44:52,747
Speaker 2: on February fourteen and fifteen for event to in twenty

2095
01:44:52,827 --> 01:44:55,107
Speaker 2: twenty six. Lea, thanks for chatting to us, mate, all

2096
01:44:55,147 --> 01:44:57,547
Speaker 2: the best and Abu Dhabi as you chase the big

2097
01:44:57,587 --> 01:44:59,587
Speaker 2: prize for twenty twenty five. Look forward to seeing you

2098
01:44:59,947 --> 01:45:01,867
Speaker 2: back in Auckland early in the new year.

2099
01:45:02,147 --> 01:45:03,707
Speaker 19: Thanks Chas, so make sure you get your tickets. We'll

2100
01:45:03,707 --> 01:45:04,067
Speaker 19: see you there.

2101
01:45:04,107 --> 01:45:05,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look forward to it, mate, Leo taka Hashi.

2102
01:45:05,987 --> 01:45:09,227
Speaker 2: Flight can troll Sale GP Auckland at February fourteen and

2103
01:45:09,347 --> 01:45:13,067
Speaker 2: fifteen next year. Tickets available right now and expanded grandstand

2104
01:45:13,187 --> 01:45:15,787
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2105
01:45:16,307 --> 01:45:18,667
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2106
01:45:18,707 --> 01:45:21,867
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2107
01:45:21,947 --> 01:45:24,067
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2108
01:45:24,147 --> 01:45:26,427
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2109
01:45:26,547 --> 01:45:30,267
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2110
01:45:30,307 --> 01:45:33,027
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2111
01:45:33,067 --> 01:45:36,427
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2112
01:45:36,467 --> 01:45:39,027
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2113
01:45:39,147 --> 01:45:41,027
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2114
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2115
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2116
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2118
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2119
01:45:59,147 --> 01:46:01,467
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2120
01:46:01,507 --> 01:46:04,787
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2121
01:46:04,787 --> 01:46:07,627
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2122
01:46:07,747 --> 01:46:11,787
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2123
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2124
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2125
01:46:18,467 --> 01:46:22,747
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2126
01:46:23,027 --> 01:46:26,027
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2127
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2128
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2129
01:46:33,947 --> 01:46:36,827
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2130
01:46:36,867 --> 01:46:40,707
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2131
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2132
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2133
01:46:50,027 --> 01:46:54,387
Speaker 2: you would win four hundred and twenty. That's Evans, okay, yep.

2134
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2135
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Speaker 2: Free money? Free money, John, you're not at all and

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2155
01:47:58,427 --> 01:48:01,787
Speaker 2: one of Australian football's most popular players with a connection

2156
01:48:01,947 --> 01:48:05,107
Speaker 2: to football on this side of the ditch. How william

2157
01:48:05,147 --> 01:48:07,507
Speaker 2: stack onto the right sling the doll.

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01:48:08,747 --> 01:48:12,667
Speaker 13: David Williams ever the Starling lineup for the first time in.

2159
01:48:12,707 --> 01:48:16,547
Speaker 14: A while, and he retains the fifth sime By Mike.

2160
01:48:16,427 --> 01:48:20,027
Speaker 2: Rew Dan David Williams played A League football for Queensland

2161
01:48:20,147 --> 01:48:22,227
Speaker 2: Raw as a seventeen year old, then had time with

2162
01:48:22,387 --> 01:48:25,947
Speaker 2: North Queensland Fury, Melbourne City, Wellington Phoenix and Perth Glory,

2163
01:48:26,307 --> 01:48:29,107
Speaker 2: racking up two hundred and twenty eight A league matches,

2164
01:48:29,347 --> 01:48:33,147
Speaker 2: scoring fifty one goals. Also had time playing in Denmark,

2165
01:48:33,347 --> 01:48:37,067
Speaker 2: Hungary and India. He also played under seventeen, under twenty

2166
01:48:37,187 --> 01:48:40,587
Speaker 2: and under twenty three football for Australia and earned two

2167
01:48:40,827 --> 01:48:44,067
Speaker 2: full Soccero's caps. He announced this week he'll be leaving

2168
01:48:44,187 --> 01:48:46,027
Speaker 2: Perth Glory, so I wanted to get him on the

2169
01:48:46,067 --> 01:48:48,787
Speaker 2: air to reflect really on his time as a Phoenix player.

2170
01:48:49,027 --> 01:48:51,467
Speaker 2: He's with us. David Williams, thanks for joining us, mate,

2171
01:48:51,467 --> 01:48:52,867
Speaker 2: great to have you on the show. You were here

2172
01:48:53,587 --> 01:48:57,067
Speaker 2: in Wellington in twenty eighteen nineteen, so tell us about

2173
01:48:57,067 --> 01:48:58,827
Speaker 2: the five or six years since that.

2174
01:48:59,587 --> 01:49:02,027
Speaker 17: Yeah, thanks for having me Piney that was you can

2175
01:49:02,067 --> 01:49:04,067
Speaker 17: come up for a breath of air now, o, can you.

2176
01:49:04,747 --> 01:49:04,987
Speaker 7: Look.

2177
01:49:05,507 --> 01:49:08,107
Speaker 17: I was unfortunate I was injured and didn't make the

2178
01:49:08,467 --> 01:49:09,507
Speaker 17: double header in New.

2179
01:49:09,467 --> 01:49:10,907
Speaker 9: Zealand versus Auckland.

2180
01:49:10,987 --> 01:49:15,067
Speaker 17: Then the trip down to Wellington up shortly after, so

2181
01:49:15,547 --> 01:49:18,107
Speaker 17: that would have been my time to come back to

2182
01:49:18,467 --> 01:49:22,067
Speaker 17: Wellington and see you and catch up and you know,

2183
01:49:22,347 --> 01:49:26,467
Speaker 17: really enjoy that the yellow fever for you know, potentially

2184
01:49:26,547 --> 01:49:29,147
Speaker 17: one of the last times. But look, it's one of

2185
01:49:29,227 --> 01:49:33,307
Speaker 17: those journeys that I've really really enjoyed. And to this day,

2186
01:49:33,387 --> 01:49:33,947
Speaker 17: my wife and I.

2187
01:49:34,067 --> 01:49:38,707
Speaker 9: Still speak about my time in Wellington. We speak about,

2188
01:49:39,787 --> 01:49:39,987
Speaker 9: you know.

2189
01:49:40,027 --> 01:49:43,747
Speaker 17: We're having our first boy who was living there with us,

2190
01:49:43,907 --> 01:49:47,507
Speaker 17: and you know, things pop up on anniversaries and different

2191
01:49:47,587 --> 01:49:49,387
Speaker 17: things like that on our phone, you know, and it's

2192
01:49:49,627 --> 01:49:52,667
Speaker 17: him in Wellington, riding the bus to daycare and all that.

2193
01:49:52,787 --> 01:49:55,227
Speaker 17: So a lot of fond memories of my time in

2194
01:49:55,587 --> 01:49:59,067
Speaker 17: Wellington and New Zealand and yeah, long career to think

2195
01:49:59,067 --> 01:49:59,667
Speaker 17: about as well.

2196
01:49:59,947 --> 01:50:03,467
Speaker 2: Twitty eighteen nineteen was the season you spent with Wellington Phoenix.

2197
01:50:03,507 --> 01:50:06,467
Speaker 2: Mark Rudin was the coach. How did he tim do

2198
01:50:06,507 --> 01:50:07,867
Speaker 2: you to the Phoenix?

2199
01:50:09,787 --> 01:50:12,427
Speaker 17: I think it was Yeah, just from memory, it was

2200
01:50:12,547 --> 01:50:15,027
Speaker 17: just a conversation on the on the phone. He was

2201
01:50:15,827 --> 01:50:18,467
Speaker 17: He's something that kind of tested me. I think he

2202
01:50:18,707 --> 01:50:21,787
Speaker 17: was playing a few mind games on the on the

2203
01:50:21,867 --> 01:50:24,907
Speaker 17: phone as well, which kind of enticed me a little

2204
01:50:24,907 --> 01:50:28,427
Speaker 17: bit to kind of prove him, prove him wrong. But

2205
01:50:28,907 --> 01:50:32,467
Speaker 17: you know, it was just an opportunity that you know,

2206
01:50:32,507 --> 01:50:36,827
Speaker 17: it was something different. I've always loved traveling and experienced

2207
01:50:36,867 --> 01:50:39,827
Speaker 17: different parts of the world, and throughout my career, you know,

2208
01:50:39,867 --> 01:50:44,027
Speaker 17: I've chosen a few countries and clubs and cities that

2209
01:50:44,307 --> 01:50:46,467
Speaker 17: you know, I've been able to travel. And if you

2210
01:50:46,547 --> 01:50:48,667
Speaker 17: can do that and the clubs are paying for you

2211
01:50:48,747 --> 01:50:51,387
Speaker 17: to come over and for visas and all this different stuff,

2212
01:50:51,467 --> 01:50:53,947
Speaker 17: you know, that's one of those situations where it was

2213
01:50:54,067 --> 01:50:59,107
Speaker 17: another opportunity to experience the culture and the country of New.

2214
01:50:59,147 --> 01:51:00,587
Speaker 9: Zealand, which I really love.

2215
01:51:01,627 --> 01:51:04,347
Speaker 17: So yeah, I jumped at the opportunity and had a great,

2216
01:51:04,427 --> 01:51:06,507
Speaker 17: great time. The club looked after me very well, well,

2217
01:51:06,627 --> 01:51:09,347
Speaker 17: it was run really well, the fans were great, and

2218
01:51:10,027 --> 01:51:13,707
Speaker 17: you know, it was something that was special throughout that time.

2219
01:51:15,707 --> 01:51:17,947
Speaker 17: Through that season, even though we didn't win anything, I

2220
01:51:18,027 --> 01:51:20,347
Speaker 17: felt like the club was on and the team that

2221
01:51:20,547 --> 01:51:22,747
Speaker 17: year was you know, we felt like we had that

2222
01:51:22,947 --> 01:51:25,827
Speaker 17: kind of won something that a part of me thinks

2223
01:51:25,867 --> 01:51:27,347
Speaker 17: that looking back on.

2224
01:51:27,427 --> 01:51:30,827
Speaker 2: It, Well, you arrived off the back of the previous

2225
01:51:30,867 --> 01:51:33,147
Speaker 2: season which had been very challenging for the club and

2226
01:51:33,267 --> 01:51:37,227
Speaker 2: for its fans, Wellington finishing just one point off the

2227
01:51:37,307 --> 01:51:41,147
Speaker 2: Wooden Spoon, and I know there were some scars around

2228
01:51:41,187 --> 01:51:43,347
Speaker 2: the fan base. Were there any internal scars wellow when

2229
01:51:43,347 --> 01:51:45,907
Speaker 2: you arrived. Did you arrive into a playing group that

2230
01:51:46,027 --> 01:51:50,187
Speaker 2: was still feeling the effects of a pretty disappointing previous season.

2231
01:51:51,187 --> 01:51:52,027
Speaker 9: I don't think so.

2232
01:51:52,227 --> 01:51:55,867
Speaker 17: I think the recruitment was pretty good in terms of

2233
01:51:56,467 --> 01:52:00,507
Speaker 17: personalities that had come into to the team for what

2234
01:52:00,627 --> 01:52:01,987
Speaker 17: we're already there as well.

2235
01:52:02,307 --> 01:52:05,227
Speaker 9: I loved the dressing room. We had a great dressing room.

2236
01:52:05,267 --> 01:52:08,907
Speaker 17: I mean it was Andrew Juran there, there was Steven Taylor,

2237
01:52:09,827 --> 01:52:12,347
Speaker 17: There was Olie Sale as well. Was there a teammate

2238
01:52:12,387 --> 01:52:15,387
Speaker 17: of mine here at Perth as well? You know, there

2239
01:52:15,507 --> 01:52:19,787
Speaker 17: was a really really good core group as well. Nathan

2240
01:52:19,827 --> 01:52:22,147
Speaker 17: Burns was a very experienced player that was in the

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01:52:22,227 --> 01:52:25,347
Speaker 17: team too. And then you've got Libby Cacacci as well,

2242
01:52:25,387 --> 01:52:27,707
Speaker 17: who was just, you know, such a bright light in

2243
01:52:27,787 --> 01:52:30,867
Speaker 17: that season who has gone on to bigger and better things.

2244
01:52:30,947 --> 01:52:33,187
Speaker 9: So I didn't notice anything.

2245
01:52:33,227 --> 01:52:35,747
Speaker 17: And that's the best thing about being a player who

2246
01:52:36,307 --> 01:52:39,067
Speaker 17: didn't really follow the Phoenix the previous year and not

2247
01:52:39,267 --> 01:52:42,027
Speaker 17: knowing those you know, essentral scars or the way that

2248
01:52:42,147 --> 01:52:44,227
Speaker 17: the club or fan base were feeling.

2249
01:52:44,787 --> 01:52:45,107
Speaker 9: You can.

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Speaker 17: You know, the beauty about signing new players about that

2251
01:52:48,267 --> 01:52:51,747
Speaker 17: is coming in and changing the environment. So I came

2252
01:52:51,827 --> 01:52:54,227
Speaker 17: in and from day one we were laughing and everyone

2253
01:52:54,347 --> 01:52:56,667
Speaker 17: was getting on. So yeah, I think that set up

2254
01:52:57,027 --> 01:52:59,027
Speaker 17: our preseason was really good and that set up the

2255
01:52:59,107 --> 01:53:02,627
Speaker 17: season that we had, which unfortunately didn't eventuate to anything,

2256
01:53:03,747 --> 01:53:06,227
Speaker 17: but there was some exciting games and I think we

2257
01:53:06,627 --> 01:53:10,507
Speaker 17: played some really really good football over that that season.

2258
01:53:10,667 --> 01:53:12,747
Speaker 2: Well, you made the top six, which hadn't been done

2259
01:53:12,787 --> 01:53:14,707
Speaker 2: for a for a few years at Wellington, so that

2260
01:53:14,827 --> 01:53:17,467
Speaker 2: was certainly an achievement. Just before we talk about more

2261
01:53:17,467 --> 01:53:20,467
Speaker 2: about the season, you mentioned Libby there. Liby Cacaci Sarprech

2262
01:53:20,547 --> 01:53:22,267
Speaker 2: thing was in that team as well, and we know

2263
01:53:22,707 --> 01:53:25,907
Speaker 2: they've both gone on. They've both gone on to to

2264
01:53:26,187 --> 01:53:29,627
Speaker 2: you know, to overseas careers. They were young then, man,

2265
01:53:30,147 --> 01:53:33,307
Speaker 2: was it obvious though to you even as youngsters that

2266
01:53:33,347 --> 01:53:35,267
Speaker 2: they had a bit about them Libby and Sarpreed.

2267
01:53:36,227 --> 01:53:37,107
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely.

2268
01:53:37,867 --> 01:53:43,427
Speaker 17: The thing with those two is they got opportunities regularly

2269
01:53:43,507 --> 01:53:47,627
Speaker 17: as well. They were they were backed by Mark and

2270
01:53:48,147 --> 01:53:52,147
Speaker 17: it just made it you know, easy for them based

2271
01:53:52,227 --> 01:53:53,427
Speaker 17: on who was around.

2272
01:53:53,507 --> 01:53:55,907
Speaker 9: Them in different positions as well. So that's very.

2273
01:53:55,867 --> 01:54:00,267
Speaker 17: Important of where they're allocated on the field with some experience,

2274
01:54:00,307 --> 01:54:00,427
Speaker 17: you know.

2275
01:54:00,547 --> 01:54:03,307
Speaker 9: Sarpri was essentially when I was starting.

2276
01:54:03,707 --> 01:54:06,707
Speaker 17: He was playing behind Roy, christna Or and I with

2277
01:54:06,867 --> 01:54:08,867
Speaker 17: the two of us old fellas up the front and

2278
01:54:08,907 --> 01:54:10,867
Speaker 17: star Pre doing a lot of running for us. I

2279
01:54:10,947 --> 01:54:14,147
Speaker 17: think it was very handy, but also I think with

2280
01:54:14,307 --> 01:54:17,067
Speaker 17: the pace that Roy and I could kind of give,

2281
01:54:17,147 --> 01:54:20,707
Speaker 17: with Surprit through balls and his technical ability as well,

2282
01:54:20,787 --> 01:54:22,507
Speaker 17: I think it matched up really well.

2283
01:54:23,547 --> 01:54:26,187
Speaker 9: And Libby was a simple play He.

2284
01:54:26,267 --> 01:54:29,787
Speaker 17: Just wanted to attack, dribble, get crosses in and he

2285
01:54:29,947 --> 01:54:33,627
Speaker 17: based his football round simplicity, which he went on some

2286
01:54:33,747 --> 01:54:37,227
Speaker 17: amazing dribbles and some amazing runs and got you know

2287
01:54:37,427 --> 01:54:40,307
Speaker 17: people you know, standing up out of their seats wait

2288
01:54:40,507 --> 01:54:42,907
Speaker 17: holding their breath to see if the cross was you know,

2289
01:54:43,107 --> 01:54:44,747
Speaker 17: going to make it to a strike or if his.

2290
01:54:44,827 --> 01:54:45,627
Speaker 9: Shot was going in.

2291
01:54:45,787 --> 01:54:49,747
Speaker 17: So it was exciting and those players, you know, local

2292
01:54:50,427 --> 01:54:54,667
Speaker 17: well Libby was local, being from Wellington and pre obviously

2293
01:54:54,827 --> 01:54:57,347
Speaker 17: I'm pretty sure he's from Auckland. But at the time

2294
01:54:57,467 --> 01:55:01,787
Speaker 17: having local boys adds so much to the team as well,

2295
01:55:02,867 --> 01:55:06,267
Speaker 17: so that was inspiring for others who have also continued

2296
01:55:06,387 --> 01:55:06,787
Speaker 17: that path.

2297
01:55:07,587 --> 01:55:10,867
Speaker 2: So the season just before Christmas, I remember this game

2298
01:55:10,947 --> 01:55:14,827
Speaker 2: so vividly well against Brisbane Raw at what was Westpac

2299
01:55:14,867 --> 01:55:17,667
Speaker 2: Stadium now Sky Stadium, and you came off the bench

2300
01:55:17,907 --> 01:55:20,107
Speaker 2: and it was won all and you scored this absolute

2301
01:55:20,627 --> 01:55:23,027
Speaker 2: cracker of a goal and the Phoenix went on to

2302
01:55:23,107 --> 01:55:25,147
Speaker 2: win four to one. And from there, mate, it was

2303
01:55:25,227 --> 01:55:28,627
Speaker 2: like I was calling you scoring goals every single week.

2304
01:55:29,027 --> 01:55:31,987
Speaker 2: You were really prolific, you know, eleven and all that season,

2305
01:55:32,387 --> 01:55:34,587
Speaker 2: including a hat trick which I want to talk about

2306
01:55:34,587 --> 01:55:36,507
Speaker 2: as well. But what was going so well for you

2307
01:55:37,067 --> 01:55:39,347
Speaker 2: during that season? As those goals started to pile up.

2308
01:55:41,227 --> 01:55:43,347
Speaker 17: I just think I got a lot of confidence from

2309
01:55:43,787 --> 01:55:47,707
Speaker 17: from Marks as a coach as well. He would test me,

2310
01:55:48,027 --> 01:55:52,627
Speaker 17: would push me, and training was a very very high standard.

2311
01:55:53,827 --> 01:55:56,227
Speaker 9: It was you know, it was ruthless at times, which

2312
01:55:56,707 --> 01:55:58,107
Speaker 9: he was with certain plays.

2313
01:55:58,187 --> 01:56:01,427
Speaker 17: So when you're watching your teammate, you know, getting scolded

2314
01:56:01,547 --> 01:56:05,227
Speaker 17: over you know, something that happened at training or whatnot,

2315
01:56:05,347 --> 01:56:10,147
Speaker 17: the others kind kind of perk up and really start concentrating.

2316
01:56:10,187 --> 01:56:13,187
Speaker 17: So I think it came down to certain, you know

2317
01:56:13,707 --> 01:56:17,667
Speaker 17: things at training that really kept that level high. We

2318
01:56:17,787 --> 01:56:19,467
Speaker 17: did a lot of shooting, a lot of games, and

2319
01:56:19,787 --> 01:56:22,667
Speaker 17: then putting that into practice was the biggest thing. But

2320
01:56:22,867 --> 01:56:24,627
Speaker 17: I really do feel like I was a part of

2321
01:56:24,707 --> 01:56:26,627
Speaker 17: a really good team that year as well.

2322
01:56:27,627 --> 01:56:30,427
Speaker 9: It was exciting. We were really really fit, I felt.

2323
01:56:31,307 --> 01:56:35,467
Speaker 17: And yeah, with the likes of playing with Roy upfront

2324
01:56:35,507 --> 01:56:38,347
Speaker 17: as well, it just made things a little bit easier

2325
01:56:38,427 --> 01:56:39,227
Speaker 17: for me in that sense.

2326
01:56:39,387 --> 01:56:42,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got nineteen goals that season. I checked the

2327
01:56:42,387 --> 01:56:44,707
Speaker 2: stet before I came on with you, and I mean,

2328
01:56:44,747 --> 01:56:47,427
Speaker 2: what a what a season for her? Johnny Warren yellist

2329
01:56:47,467 --> 01:56:50,827
Speaker 2: as well. How did the combination between the two of

2330
01:56:50,907 --> 01:56:53,587
Speaker 2: you work because you didn't played together before. How did

2331
01:56:53,627 --> 01:56:56,787
Speaker 2: you so quickly forge such an effective partnership.

2332
01:56:59,547 --> 01:57:02,627
Speaker 17: I think it was just we were just simple players, really,

2333
01:57:02,827 --> 01:57:06,147
Speaker 17: Like I was never one to dribble and do step

2334
01:57:06,227 --> 01:57:07,467
Speaker 17: up or do any of that.

2335
01:57:07,667 --> 01:57:10,027
Speaker 9: Roy wasn't really either. He might just do one to

2336
01:57:10,307 --> 01:57:11,587
Speaker 9: create a yard to shoot with.

2337
01:57:11,747 --> 01:57:14,707
Speaker 17: But other than that, we used our strengths, which was

2338
01:57:15,227 --> 01:57:19,707
Speaker 17: our pace and our shot and football is simple. I

2339
01:57:19,827 --> 01:57:23,907
Speaker 17: think some people over complicated sometimes and I think we

2340
01:57:24,067 --> 01:57:26,907
Speaker 17: just stuck to our guns and didn't do anything out

2341
01:57:26,907 --> 01:57:31,467
Speaker 17: of the ordinary. We worked hard defensively, which created our opportunities,

2342
01:57:31,587 --> 01:57:35,867
Speaker 17: and I think that's you know, Roy's best strength is

2343
01:57:35,947 --> 01:57:38,787
Speaker 17: the way he worked off the ball created chances for

2344
01:57:39,107 --> 01:57:42,947
Speaker 17: himself while he was so successful as a striker winning

2345
01:57:43,027 --> 01:57:45,427
Speaker 17: the ball in the box. And I remember, even being

2346
01:57:45,467 --> 01:57:48,587
Speaker 17: in India as teammates with him, the amount of goals

2347
01:57:48,667 --> 01:57:52,987
Speaker 17: that he would assist me based on press and winning

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01:57:53,027 --> 01:57:55,987
Speaker 17: it in the front third was outstanding from him. And

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01:57:56,307 --> 01:57:59,067
Speaker 17: that's why he's still playing because of the way he trains,

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01:57:59,107 --> 01:58:00,267
Speaker 17: the way his mentality is.

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Speaker 5: He can be.

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Speaker 17: I don't know if he's close to forty three years

2353
01:58:04,067 --> 01:58:08,307
Speaker 17: old these days, but he's still he's still playing over

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01:58:08,467 --> 01:58:09,187
Speaker 17: in India.

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01:58:09,787 --> 01:58:13,067
Speaker 9: Not at the eye level, but he's still thereabouts.

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01:58:13,627 --> 01:58:17,867
Speaker 17: So I think the simplicity of our football was probably

2357
01:58:17,907 --> 01:58:21,747
Speaker 17: a reason why we connected so well. We were very

2358
01:58:21,867 --> 01:58:26,147
Speaker 17: very similar players, but we also had just a natural connection,

2359
01:58:26,267 --> 01:58:30,907
Speaker 17: and that's what some clubs can naturally and luckily get

2360
01:58:30,987 --> 01:58:34,987
Speaker 17: sometimes if players can just naturally connect. We were friends

2361
01:58:35,027 --> 01:58:38,307
Speaker 17: off the field, you know, we were friends on the

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01:58:38,347 --> 01:58:41,347
Speaker 17: field and I think that really made it a really

2363
01:58:41,387 --> 01:58:44,067
Speaker 17: good connection and partnership.

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01:58:44,387 --> 01:58:47,307
Speaker 2: Well, one of your more memorable Knights didn't feature him.

2365
01:58:47,467 --> 01:58:50,347
Speaker 2: He had been sent off the previous game against Western

2366
01:58:50,427 --> 01:58:54,147
Speaker 2: Sydney back end of March round twenty three. Newcastle come

2367
01:58:54,227 --> 01:58:56,667
Speaker 2: to Wellington. You score in the first minute, then a

2368
01:58:56,707 --> 01:58:58,907
Speaker 2: penalty after an hour, and then you've put this thing

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01:58:58,947 --> 01:59:02,027
Speaker 2: in the top corner past Glenn Moss for your hat trick.

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01:59:02,347 --> 01:59:05,067
Speaker 2: That goal, well, where where does that sit in amongst

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01:59:05,107 --> 01:59:07,227
Speaker 2: all of the goals that I think?

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01:59:07,787 --> 01:59:10,187
Speaker 17: I think that would be my number one goal I've

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01:59:10,227 --> 01:59:15,147
Speaker 17: scored in my career. It's just just how it went

2374
01:59:15,227 --> 01:59:18,907
Speaker 17: in the moment of you know, scoring a hat trick

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01:59:18,987 --> 01:59:23,907
Speaker 17: being the third goal. You know that stadium created such

2376
01:59:23,947 --> 01:59:27,787
Speaker 17: a good atmosphere as well. I've scored some great goals

2377
01:59:27,867 --> 01:59:32,227
Speaker 17: in might I say better atmospheres, but you know in

2378
01:59:32,267 --> 01:59:35,747
Speaker 17: a Melbourne derby when I was Melbourne Heart, this Melbourne

2379
01:59:35,787 --> 01:59:39,307
Speaker 17: victory that when it was Eddie had stadium before. I

2380
01:59:39,347 --> 01:59:42,867
Speaker 17: think it's now Marvel potentially, I can't remember what it

2381
01:59:42,947 --> 01:59:45,027
Speaker 17: might be called now, but you know when we used

2382
01:59:45,067 --> 01:59:49,347
Speaker 17: to sell out that that game, it was huge as well,

2383
01:59:49,467 --> 01:59:54,827
Speaker 17: so that that goal for me was quite important being

2384
01:59:56,267 --> 01:59:59,867
Speaker 17: outside the box. And I even remember Holy Sale he

2385
01:59:59,947 --> 02:00:01,867
Speaker 17: said he was on the bench and before I even

2386
02:00:01,947 --> 02:00:03,547
Speaker 17: hit it, he goes that this is going to be

2387
02:00:03,587 --> 02:00:05,867
Speaker 17: a goal like a few minutes before because he had

2388
02:00:05,907 --> 02:00:08,987
Speaker 17: a feeling, goes, there's no way a strikers on two

2389
02:00:09,107 --> 02:00:13,067
Speaker 17: goals and going to pass it to someone, and that

2390
02:00:13,267 --> 02:00:14,227
Speaker 17: was his basis of his.

2391
02:00:14,667 --> 02:00:16,947
Speaker 9: Call, and he goes, yeah, it's it's going in.

2392
02:00:17,187 --> 02:00:20,427
Speaker 17: So you know all he's got some good instincts about

2393
02:00:20,507 --> 02:00:22,667
Speaker 17: him too, which pretty cool.

2394
02:00:23,867 --> 02:00:29,107
Speaker 9: But yeah, there was one goal. Actually I can't actually find.

2395
02:00:28,947 --> 02:00:30,987
Speaker 17: Vision for it because it was so long ago as

2396
02:00:31,307 --> 02:00:34,147
Speaker 17: North Queensland, Fury Verse, Gold Coast and it was in

2397
02:00:34,627 --> 02:00:38,267
Speaker 17: the Gold Coast as well, so not sure if cameras

2398
02:00:38,267 --> 02:00:39,387
Speaker 17: were even around that man.

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02:00:41,947 --> 02:00:43,587
Speaker 9: I definitely don't think it was HD.

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02:00:44,627 --> 02:00:46,947
Speaker 17: But yeah, look, if there was any vision of a

2401
02:00:47,027 --> 02:00:52,147
Speaker 17: goal I scored at Skilled Stadium all those years ago,

2402
02:00:52,267 --> 02:00:56,027
Speaker 17: that was also up there for me. So look there

2403
02:00:56,107 --> 02:00:58,507
Speaker 17: was a I scored a really good header in India

2404
02:00:59,307 --> 02:01:01,507
Speaker 17: as a part of a semi final win to get

2405
02:01:01,587 --> 02:01:05,987
Speaker 17: us into the Grand Final one year, which is actually

2406
02:01:05,987 --> 02:01:10,867
Speaker 17: against Eric Pardalou's team Bengaloo, which he doesn't like.

2407
02:01:11,387 --> 02:01:14,107
Speaker 9: Me bringing that up every time I see him or

2408
02:01:14,187 --> 02:01:14,747
Speaker 9: speak to him.

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02:01:15,507 --> 02:01:18,827
Speaker 17: Look, there are good goals, but I think in terms

2410
02:01:18,867 --> 02:01:22,947
Speaker 17: of you've got to put atmosphere moments, what the order

2411
02:01:23,027 --> 02:01:25,507
Speaker 17: of the goal, I think that has to take the cake.

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02:01:25,627 --> 02:01:28,987
Speaker 9: The Phoenix against Newcastle Jets wonderful stuff.

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02:01:29,027 --> 02:01:32,427
Speaker 2: Well you had a season here six years ago. Well

2414
02:01:32,627 --> 02:01:36,227
Speaker 2: and it's still fondly remembered by Yellow Fever and by

2415
02:01:36,267 --> 02:01:38,987
Speaker 2: everybody associated with a football club. It's been great to

2416
02:01:38,987 --> 02:01:40,467
Speaker 2: get the chance to catch up. Made all the best

2417
02:01:40,547 --> 02:01:42,827
Speaker 2: for the decision making yourhead and no doubt we'll see

2418
02:01:42,867 --> 02:01:45,067
Speaker 2: you around the football traps in the months and years

2419
02:01:45,107 --> 02:01:45,347
Speaker 2: to come.

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02:01:45,627 --> 02:01:48,987
Speaker 17: No thanks, enjoyed my time and look forward to getting

2421
02:01:49,027 --> 02:01:49,707
Speaker 17: back there one day.

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02:01:49,827 --> 02:01:51,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look forward to seeing you David. Thanks. Indeed,

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02:01:51,707 --> 02:01:55,707
Speaker 2: David William's there former Phoenix play He's left Perth Glory

2424
02:01:55,907 --> 02:01:58,267
Speaker 2: and is now looking for his next football club. We

2425
02:01:58,307 --> 02:02:00,627
Speaker 2: wait to see where he turns up. Nine away from

2426
02:02:00,627 --> 02:02:01,307
Speaker 2: three News Talks.

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02:02:01,307 --> 02:02:01,587
Speaker 14: He'd be.

2428
02:02:03,187 --> 02:02:05,507
Speaker 1: The good for the drag fields and and the court

2429
02:02:05,747 --> 02:02:10,147
Speaker 1: on your weekends for it with Jason Vine News Talk.

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02:02:10,067 --> 02:02:12,907
Speaker 2: ZB coming up six to three. Just to quick look

2431
02:02:12,907 --> 02:02:15,267
Speaker 2: at it. Tomorrow's show after midday we'll break down whatever

2432
02:02:15,347 --> 02:02:18,587
Speaker 2: happens at murray Field between four and six tomorrow morning,

2433
02:02:19,147 --> 02:02:21,787
Speaker 2: All Blacks v. Scotland of course for commentary here on

2434
02:02:21,947 --> 02:02:24,707
Speaker 2: News Talk ZB whatever happens, we'll break it down. A

2435
02:02:24,787 --> 02:02:27,027
Speaker 2: member of the All Black coaching staff will join us.

2436
02:02:27,027 --> 02:02:30,387
Speaker 2: We'll get a Scottish viewpoint as well, and some some

2437
02:02:30,547 --> 02:02:34,067
Speaker 2: postmatch thoughts of some of the key participants, mainly they

2438
02:02:34,067 --> 02:02:35,987
Speaker 2: don't want to hear your views. So whatever plays out

2439
02:02:36,027 --> 02:02:39,627
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, let you and I discuss it and dissect

2440
02:02:39,707 --> 02:02:41,667
Speaker 2: it tomorrow. We'll have other bits and pieces on the

2441
02:02:41,707 --> 02:02:44,547
Speaker 2: show as well, but mainly the rugby to get us

2442
02:02:44,587 --> 02:02:47,307
Speaker 2: underway anyway. From midday tomorrow, Tim Beverage on the radio

2443
02:02:47,387 --> 02:02:49,427
Speaker 2: after three with the Weekend Collective. Thanks for listening in

2444
02:02:49,747 --> 02:02:53,147
Speaker 2: Huge thanks to Andy McDonald for producing a such a

2445
02:02:53,307 --> 02:02:55,947
Speaker 2: wide and varied show as always.

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02:02:55,627 --> 02:02:59,147
Speaker 29: What's our exitcisement varied as all where after the sad

2447
02:02:59,227 --> 02:03:02,387
Speaker 29: news obviously this week that former drag and guitarist Robert

2448
02:03:02,427 --> 02:03:06,187
Speaker 29: Taylor diede. I couldn't couldn't not play play my favorite

2449
02:03:06,347 --> 02:03:08,787
Speaker 29: Waggons song, rain to finish a shot.

2450
02:03:09,587 --> 02:03:12,387
Speaker 2: Nice one night say tomorrow five to threeight some beaverite next?

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02:03:16,827 --> 02:03:18,107
Speaker 3: Is it any Wonder.

2452
02:03:19,627 --> 02:04:04,867
Speaker 5: Streets, Dark, is It Wonders?

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02:04:42,027 --> 02:04:45,187
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