1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:13,013 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b A. 3 00:00:13,053 --> 00:00:16,613 Speaker 2: Travel correspondent, Mike Yardley has been having a few issues, 4 00:00:16,613 --> 00:00:19,653 Speaker 2: which is very unlike him given and it's remarkable really, 5 00:00:19,693 --> 00:00:22,493 Speaker 2: given he travels the world constantly that he's usually able 6 00:00:22,533 --> 00:00:24,693 Speaker 2: to connect to us. He's here, we got have we 7 00:00:24,733 --> 00:00:25,293 Speaker 2: got my gap? 8 00:00:25,373 --> 00:00:25,533 Speaker 3: There? 9 00:00:25,573 --> 00:00:25,893 Speaker 2: He is? 10 00:00:26,733 --> 00:00:27,573 Speaker 4: Good morning, Jack. 11 00:00:27,733 --> 00:00:32,293 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, don't apologize. Yeah, no, I you go. 12 00:00:33,293 --> 00:00:34,933 Speaker 3: I was just going to say, I know we're talking 13 00:00:34,933 --> 00:00:37,053 Speaker 3: to Sri Lanka. I'm actually in Disneyland and I did 14 00:00:37,093 --> 00:00:39,493 Speaker 3: a very stupid thing and I misplaced my phone an 15 00:00:39,533 --> 00:00:43,533 Speaker 3: hour ago, which is in the process of apparently being 16 00:00:43,573 --> 00:00:45,133 Speaker 3: dispatched to Lost and Found. 17 00:00:47,053 --> 00:00:50,573 Speaker 2: Mike, that is the worst feeling a losing your phone. 18 00:00:50,653 --> 00:00:50,853 Speaker 4: I know. 19 00:00:51,053 --> 00:00:53,533 Speaker 2: Suddenly you realize how woefully dependent we are. 20 00:00:53,453 --> 00:00:55,053 Speaker 4: On these things. Well, I'm glad. 21 00:00:55,093 --> 00:00:57,773 Speaker 2: I'm glad that we've found a technical workaround with you 22 00:00:57,813 --> 00:01:01,253 Speaker 2: in yes, but fear to say that, at least for today, 23 00:01:01,253 --> 00:01:02,693 Speaker 2: it's not the happiest place on. 24 00:01:02,693 --> 00:01:04,893 Speaker 4: Earth for you, exactly. 25 00:01:05,013 --> 00:01:08,053 Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Well, look, we are talking Sri Lanka this morning, 26 00:01:08,133 --> 00:01:10,933 Speaker 2: and we loved your tips for Gaul last week, but 27 00:01:10,933 --> 00:01:12,973 Speaker 2: we're looking at some of the World Heritage sites and 28 00:01:13,013 --> 00:01:15,733 Speaker 2: wildlife in Sri Lanka. So let's start off with some 29 00:01:15,773 --> 00:01:19,013 Speaker 2: of the World Heritage bits tell us about darm Buller. 30 00:01:19,973 --> 00:01:22,533 Speaker 3: This is the most amazing place. Jackets the start of 31 00:01:22,613 --> 00:01:25,613 Speaker 3: what they call the Cultural Triangle, and this is an 32 00:01:25,653 --> 00:01:30,373 Speaker 3: area that encompasses all of Sri Lanka's greatest World Heritage treasures. 33 00:01:30,733 --> 00:01:33,613 Speaker 3: So the dumb Baller Rock Temple. It has been a 34 00:01:33,653 --> 00:01:38,293 Speaker 3: Buddhist pilgrimage site for over two thousand years and it's 35 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:43,413 Speaker 3: considered Sri Lanka's best preserved ancient edifice. It's this massive 36 00:01:43,733 --> 00:01:47,613 Speaker 3: cave temple complex which was carved by monks, and these 37 00:01:47,773 --> 00:01:54,253 Speaker 3: caves huddle under this vast, overhanging rock and geniously they 38 00:01:54,453 --> 00:01:59,493 Speaker 3: carved a dripline into that rock so that their interiors 39 00:01:59,493 --> 00:02:02,173 Speaker 3: would stay bone dry. And oh my goodness, it's like 40 00:02:02,213 --> 00:02:05,533 Speaker 3: an ancient art gallery. These caves over one hundred and 41 00:02:05,573 --> 00:02:09,773 Speaker 3: fifty bodist statues. There's a huge reclining border. There was 42 00:02:09,813 --> 00:02:13,053 Speaker 3: one cave jack I went into and the ceiling is 43 00:02:13,213 --> 00:02:18,173 Speaker 3: just covered in fifteen hundred border paintings and may all 44 00:02:18,493 --> 00:02:23,053 Speaker 3: flawlessly follow the contours of the rock. It is absolutely enthralling. 45 00:02:23,293 --> 00:02:24,733 Speaker 3: An inster picnic. 46 00:02:24,973 --> 00:02:27,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds amazing. So tell us about Lion Rock. 47 00:02:28,573 --> 00:02:31,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, this ancient rock kingdom was the shortest lived but 48 00:02:31,573 --> 00:02:35,573 Speaker 3: the most staggering of all of Sri Lanka's ancient capital. 49 00:02:35,693 --> 00:02:40,293 Speaker 3: So it's also known as Sagidia, but better known as 50 00:02:40,333 --> 00:02:43,133 Speaker 3: Lion Rock. And it's this massive towering monolith, a bit 51 00:02:43,253 --> 00:02:47,413 Speaker 3: like Ularou, but higher, and it's got a flat top summit. 52 00:02:47,933 --> 00:02:51,413 Speaker 3: And this king called Kushipar he turned it into a 53 00:02:51,453 --> 00:02:54,973 Speaker 3: fortress kingdom about fifteen hundred years ago, and he decorated 54 00:02:55,013 --> 00:02:57,573 Speaker 3: the rock walls with frescoes, and he built a pleasure 55 00:02:57,613 --> 00:03:01,813 Speaker 3: palace on the summit that was only accessible through the 56 00:03:01,933 --> 00:03:07,293 Speaker 3: mouth of a massive carved lion. So I hauled my 57 00:03:07,453 --> 00:03:10,653 Speaker 3: way up the twelve hundred steps cut into the rock 58 00:03:10,773 --> 00:03:14,533 Speaker 3: face in the steep start between a pair of lion 59 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:17,693 Speaker 3: paws which have been carved into the base of the rock. 60 00:03:18,453 --> 00:03:21,173 Speaker 3: And at one time the stairs led through the open 61 00:03:21,213 --> 00:03:24,653 Speaker 3: mouth of this lion's head, crouching between the paws. It's 62 00:03:24,733 --> 00:03:27,373 Speaker 3: all very James Bond in a Boddhist sort of way. 63 00:03:28,613 --> 00:03:30,493 Speaker 2: Why was he considered a crazy king? 64 00:03:31,133 --> 00:03:35,653 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, mad is a hatter, a miglomaniac and paranoid. 65 00:03:36,013 --> 00:03:41,773 Speaker 3: He actually overthrew his father and buried his father alive 66 00:03:41,973 --> 00:03:45,013 Speaker 3: to assume the throne. I know, I mean just she 67 00:03:45,373 --> 00:03:50,413 Speaker 3: very extreme. He apparently historians reckon he had five hundred 68 00:03:50,453 --> 00:03:52,013 Speaker 3: women up in his pleasure. 69 00:03:51,653 --> 00:03:53,293 Speaker 4: Palace to leisure him. 70 00:03:53,893 --> 00:03:56,813 Speaker 3: And you can see their bathing ponds down at the 71 00:03:56,853 --> 00:04:00,453 Speaker 3: base of the rock, because those bathing ponds are part 72 00:04:00,493 --> 00:04:05,893 Speaker 3: of what is considered Asia's oldest surviving landscaped gardens, so 73 00:04:05,933 --> 00:04:08,613 Speaker 3: they sort of just unfurl like a blanket from the 74 00:04:08,653 --> 00:04:11,493 Speaker 3: base of the rock. And another amazing feature, Jack, there 75 00:04:11,573 --> 00:04:14,853 Speaker 3: is this enormous boulder down in those gardens. This boulder, 76 00:04:14,933 --> 00:04:16,573 Speaker 3: I reckon, would be the size of a three or 77 00:04:16,653 --> 00:04:19,813 Speaker 3: four story high house, and it was cut in half 78 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:23,453 Speaker 3: horizontally the boulder so that it forms sort of like 79 00:04:23,693 --> 00:04:27,333 Speaker 3: an amphitheater for the king as an audience sort of hare. 80 00:04:27,973 --> 00:04:31,333 Speaker 3: But how did they do that cutting this boulder fifteen 81 00:04:31,373 --> 00:04:34,253 Speaker 3: hundred years ago? And that's the question that just keeps 82 00:04:34,493 --> 00:04:37,293 Speaker 3: needling it you as you go to line rock all 83 00:04:37,333 --> 00:04:37,693 Speaker 3: over it. 84 00:04:37,853 --> 00:04:39,333 Speaker 4: How did they do it? 85 00:04:39,453 --> 00:04:43,133 Speaker 2: Amazing? And you checked out another ancient capital mate. 86 00:04:43,373 --> 00:04:46,333 Speaker 3: Yes, pollon as she hod on, I'll get this right, 87 00:04:46,493 --> 00:04:49,973 Speaker 3: Polona Ruer and this was an ancient capital eight hundred 88 00:04:50,013 --> 00:04:53,893 Speaker 3: years ago before the power base shifted to Colombo. And 89 00:04:53,933 --> 00:04:56,253 Speaker 3: it's a bit like a mini ankle watch Jack. So 90 00:04:56,853 --> 00:04:59,693 Speaker 3: it's been liberated from the jungle, and it just brims 91 00:04:59,773 --> 00:05:05,173 Speaker 3: with tombs and temples and statues and stoopas the centerpieces. 92 00:05:05,253 --> 00:05:11,853 Speaker 3: This flamboy and butadage, which is a superbly decorated circular 93 00:05:11,973 --> 00:05:15,773 Speaker 3: stone shrine, and there's this huge bodder statue at its heart. 94 00:05:15,813 --> 00:05:17,573 Speaker 4: It's just drop dead gorgeous. 95 00:05:17,973 --> 00:05:21,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds gorgeous. So sound sounds amazing. What about 96 00:05:21,093 --> 00:05:23,293 Speaker 2: the primates? Are they prolific in that part of the world. 97 00:05:24,693 --> 00:05:28,093 Speaker 3: Well, as much as I enjoy admiring lost cities, Jack, 98 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:32,493 Speaker 3: I was constantly distracted by the primates. So if you're 99 00:05:32,573 --> 00:05:36,813 Speaker 3: up with your Disney knowledge, Polona Ruher was actually the 100 00:05:36,853 --> 00:05:41,853 Speaker 3: inspiration for Disney's Monkey Kingdom movie because it's considered the 101 00:05:41,893 --> 00:05:44,413 Speaker 3: best place in the country to get up close with 102 00:05:44,853 --> 00:05:48,893 Speaker 3: Sri Lanka's three diurnal primates. They've got the purple faced 103 00:05:49,013 --> 00:05:53,813 Speaker 3: leaf monkey, the Tokma Cac and the absurdly delightful tufted 104 00:05:53,893 --> 00:05:57,493 Speaker 3: gray linger. I love those langers. They're all full of 105 00:05:57,533 --> 00:05:59,893 Speaker 3: mischief and they certainly know how to work a room. 106 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:03,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love the monkeys. They're amazing. Do you 107 00:06:03,693 --> 00:06:05,373 Speaker 2: have to watch your stuff? Do they get that close? 108 00:06:06,613 --> 00:06:08,293 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, fearless. 109 00:06:08,373 --> 00:06:10,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've got to be smart because they will. 110 00:06:11,013 --> 00:06:12,493 Speaker 2: They're always cunning, aren't they. 111 00:06:12,373 --> 00:06:12,973 Speaker 4: They know how. 112 00:06:13,093 --> 00:06:15,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, take advantage of a distract good tourist. 113 00:06:15,533 --> 00:06:17,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a gang of muggers. 114 00:06:17,293 --> 00:06:20,173 Speaker 2: Totally. So, speaking of wildlife, what national part would you 115 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:21,293 Speaker 2: recommend for Safari? 116 00:06:21,893 --> 00:06:23,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question because there are quite a 117 00:06:23,933 --> 00:06:27,013 Speaker 3: few that are all well regarded. But my pick would 118 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:32,053 Speaker 3: be Uda wa Lawi because it's heaving with six hundred elephants. 119 00:06:32,533 --> 00:06:34,733 Speaker 3: And the interesting thing about the Shri Lunkan elephant jack 120 00:06:34,853 --> 00:06:38,293 Speaker 3: is it's the biggest of all the Asian elephants, and 121 00:06:38,333 --> 00:06:43,093 Speaker 3: they've got herds at Uda Waalawie of fifty elephants, you know, 122 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:47,933 Speaker 3: and one herd, so it is majesty. Writ large fun fact, 123 00:06:48,013 --> 00:06:51,853 Speaker 3: by the way, the average Sri Lunkan elephant guzzles down 124 00:06:52,013 --> 00:06:57,253 Speaker 3: two hundred liters of water a day, Isn't it amazing? 125 00:06:57,853 --> 00:07:02,813 Speaker 3: So after after a lot of trunk time, we also 126 00:07:03,013 --> 00:07:07,813 Speaker 3: swooned over mongooses and jackals and water monitors who aren't 127 00:07:07,813 --> 00:07:12,333 Speaker 3: monitoring the elephant's intake, by the way, lots of crops, sloth, 128 00:07:12,413 --> 00:07:16,853 Speaker 3: be bears. We even drove over most unfortunately a six 129 00:07:16,973 --> 00:07:17,773 Speaker 3: meter python. 130 00:07:18,013 --> 00:07:21,053 Speaker 4: Oh no, oh, I know. 131 00:07:21,413 --> 00:07:21,693 Speaker 2: Yeah. 132 00:07:21,773 --> 00:07:24,733 Speaker 3: The only disappointment, Jack, by the way, was the elusive leopard, 133 00:07:24,893 --> 00:07:27,493 Speaker 3: very well named in Sri Lanka because he did indeed 134 00:07:27,493 --> 00:07:32,053 Speaker 3: elude us. But apparently he's not so elusive that at 135 00:07:32,053 --> 00:07:34,053 Speaker 3: some of the other national parks. So I'll have to 136 00:07:34,093 --> 00:07:35,373 Speaker 3: go back for a second serving. 137 00:07:35,573 --> 00:07:37,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, Oh that sounds so good. Though. We're going 138 00:07:38,053 --> 00:07:39,893 Speaker 2: to put all of your tips for tripping around Sri 139 00:07:39,973 --> 00:07:42,853 Speaker 2: Lanka's World Heritage and Wildlife on the website. So if 140 00:07:42,853 --> 00:07:45,573 Speaker 2: they found your phone, if they traveled down. 141 00:07:46,133 --> 00:07:49,653 Speaker 3: The Samsung Find your Phone service indicates it's still in Disneyland, 142 00:07:49,853 --> 00:07:53,373 Speaker 3: So I've got I've got a cast of Disney stars, 143 00:07:53,413 --> 00:07:58,253 Speaker 3: all apparently ferreting out of its supposed geographic whereabouts. 144 00:07:58,373 --> 00:08:01,773 Speaker 2: Very good, Okay, well, good luck, good luck. Such a 145 00:08:01,773 --> 00:08:03,693 Speaker 2: pain in the butt. But we'll be thinking of you, 146 00:08:03,933 --> 00:08:05,853 Speaker 2: crossing our fingers and hope the hoping that we can 147 00:08:05,853 --> 00:08:08,493 Speaker 2: call you this next week. Thanks so much, Mike. That's 148 00:08:08,533 --> 00:08:10,173 Speaker 2: Mike Audley, a travel correspondent. 149 00:08:10,813 --> 00:08:13,893 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 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