WEBVTT - Mystics assistant coach Rob Wright on the aggressive 'niggle' appearing in the game

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<v Speaker 1>Inside, therefore getting you closer to the game you love.

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<v Speaker 2>Zeb talk about Blink and You'll miss it. We are

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<v Speaker 2>approaching the final round of this year's A and Z Premiership.

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<v Speaker 2>The magazine stars Anna and Adean thereof chasing down every

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<v Speaker 2>a dean scene chasing around the streets of Wellington. But

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<v Speaker 2>I am here along with super sub again evonn Willering,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to pick apart what has been a

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting well penultiple round of the A and Z Premiership.

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<v Speaker 2>Really and I think we should not. Oh and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell what. Will also be talking to Mystic's assistant coach,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Wright to see how the season is going for him.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk a little bit of National League Grand Final,

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<v Speaker 2>and we might just pay a small tribute to a

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<v Speaker 2>fabulous English player who has announced her retirement. So without

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<v Speaker 2>further ado, let's get going.

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<v Speaker 3>Inside Bedball on iHeart.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, season number five for Rob Wright as assistant coach

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<v Speaker 2>with the Mystics. You must love it, otherwise you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>keep coming back. How do you find it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I do. I do love it and I can't believe

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<v Speaker 4>it's this is the fair season i've been here. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a great environment, it's a great place to coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just really it was like the best decision I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever made. So yeah, real thrilled to be here and

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<v Speaker 4>hoping to be here more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now, Rather, it's been interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've obviously is in the past, all good ones,

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<v Speaker 1>all good ones, but I find it interesting what you

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the Mystics. I initially thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be their defensive coach, but I believe you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>both ends now, Is that correct for a start off?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I am doing. I am doing both ends. Like

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<v Speaker 4>we we coach both ends during training and we coach

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<v Speaker 4>both ends across the season, just so just so it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't get too stale, like I think, even though we're

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<v Speaker 4>coaching slightly differently but with the same theme. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just think it keeps everyone fresh and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you want absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing adding to that, like, initially coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Australia, it was basically one on one defense, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have noticed that, you know, it is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about I wouldn't say total space marking, but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly looking for a ball and flight. And I hear

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<v Speaker 1>you often saying ball and flight, And it was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in the last game played right at the end to

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<v Speaker 1>your saying get off the body. You know, we want

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<v Speaker 1>no penalties right now, and I do believe we are

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<v Speaker 1>getting too many penalties in the game. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>see the defensive structures without obviously going to secrets.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't have any secrets, but you know I

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<v Speaker 4>have spent a lot of time into you and work

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<v Speaker 4>and spending time with you learning, and to me, we

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<v Speaker 4>do player as you notice, a hybrid type of defense,

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<v Speaker 4>because I think there's room for how the one on

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<v Speaker 4>one and some of that more space marking type styles

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<v Speaker 4>to actually combine, and there's room and room for both

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<v Speaker 4>of them. But I do agree I think that there's two.

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<v Speaker 4>There is too many penalties. We really look at penalties

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<v Speaker 4>every week as a real to see how we're going.

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<v Speaker 4>And we feel like, in particular the last couple of

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<v Speaker 4>weeks we've been way too high. So we want to

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<v Speaker 4>get off the body. We want it to be clean.

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<v Speaker 4>We want clean lines because one when I reckon your

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<v Speaker 4>stuff on a body like and I'm talking to the

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<v Speaker 4>converted here, like you just can't contest stuff. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>run through stuff, you can't you can't get up in

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<v Speaker 4>the air, you can't, you can't hedge as well, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera. So to me, it's that we want we

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<v Speaker 4>need to tidy keep tiding up the game.

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<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, are you saying that you you think

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<v Speaker 2>the game is getting rougher?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I do. Yeah, I think the uh and ann.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get me wrong. I love a tough contest like

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<v Speaker 4>and and that doesn't mean that there's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be some real big challenges a lot that we need

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<v Speaker 4>that in the game. But there's some niggle and stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that and some just some stuff that I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>accentuates or really highlights how good our game is. They're

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<v Speaker 4>really good athletes, they're they're quick there, they can get

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<v Speaker 4>in the air, they're good across the ground, and to me,

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<v Speaker 4>we want to showcase that. And to may, I think

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<v Speaker 4>where the umpires are having to get too involved.

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<v Speaker 2>And so how would you start cleaning the game up?

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<v Speaker 4>To me, I think it just comes back to, well,

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<v Speaker 4>on one, the coaches, it's a priority for the coaches

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<v Speaker 4>have to go radio. How do we how do we

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<v Speaker 4>minimize our penalties? Like, because in reality, teams with higher

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<v Speaker 4>penalties lose more than they win. There's always going to

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<v Speaker 4>be exceptions to the rule. But to me, like you

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<v Speaker 4>just go from our success point of view. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>know if we lower our penalties, we're gonna we keep

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves in play, we can build pressure, we can we

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<v Speaker 4>can look for stuff, and you're no good to anyone

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<v Speaker 4>if you're standing out of play. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of a no brainer. But you know, everyone's different

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<v Speaker 4>because every coach is going to play a different style,

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<v Speaker 4>and some coaches might want to play real tight on

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<v Speaker 4>the body and the look. That's their prerogative, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera. Even though I do like my one on one,

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<v Speaker 4>even though we play a hybrid, our one on one

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<v Speaker 4>is not on the body. It's meant to be off

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<v Speaker 4>the body because we want to stay in play and

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<v Speaker 4>be able to contest and run stuff and not not

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<v Speaker 4>bring the umpire into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's interesting, Like I guess, well, you also

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<v Speaker 1>know it's close to Silver Fern squad selection as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that you know the players must have

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<v Speaker 1>that in their minds as well, and one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>found interesting last week's game against the steel Haul for

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<v Speaker 1>your goalkeeper versus stythe their goalkeeper. And obviously you know,

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<v Speaker 1>both these players really well. And when we did sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stats, not that I'm into stats, but having said that,

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<v Speaker 1>like Hall was penalized seventeen times and Stith was, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>Stith twenty one times. And yeah, and I and I say,

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<v Speaker 1>both these players are better than that. They are better

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<v Speaker 1>than standing beside their opposition, you know. And I look

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<v Speaker 1>at that and I go, yeah, we just it just

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be tweaked and tidy up. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I respect it to you for coming out and saying

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<v Speaker 1>get off the body, and you say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear it all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm with you one hundred percent on that. Like

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<v Speaker 4>we think from a penalty count, that's way too high

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion from a keeper, because you're right, like

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<v Speaker 4>if you end up just standing out like when when

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<v Speaker 4>she's a big menace, and both of them are menaces,

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<v Speaker 4>like they don't want to be standing out, like you're

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<v Speaker 4>you're giving away some too much free ball or free shots,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what we want to try and limit.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a team that you that your team considers

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<v Speaker 2>a dirty team rougher than the others.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, I don't. I just think there's probably

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<v Speaker 4>just the nature there's some teams because of the nature

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<v Speaker 4>of how they defend, they're obviously going to be much

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<v Speaker 4>more low penalty count than some others. But in reality,

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<v Speaker 4>I just think across all teams, including ours, sometimes we

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<v Speaker 4>just got to go, We've just got to tidy that up.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got to be a little bit more disciplined. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a discipline thing. We've got to go. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't need to go for that. You pull pull

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<v Speaker 4>out of that one because you're just gonna you're not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna win it. You're gonna you're gonna get ourselves out

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<v Speaker 4>of play, and then the pressure comes off. So to me,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just about going from a coaching point of view,

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<v Speaker 4>how do we tidy up, how do we keep building

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<v Speaker 4>that discipline, stay and play and win the ball clean.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we see you on the sideline of the Jamaican team,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've seen that for the last couple of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>big tournaments. Are you still doing work with them?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's a good question. It's sort of been. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a year by year thing. So at the moment, I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't had any contact with Jamaica this season around what's

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<v Speaker 4>what moving forward will look like? So who knows it

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<v Speaker 4>currently at the moment, I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>May be a country, wouldn't they that you know this

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<v Speaker 2>thing where the World Cup is going to every two years,

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<v Speaker 2>Well they have the money for that. I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they let us down badly a few years back,

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<v Speaker 2>not not being able to get organized. What was your

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<v Speaker 2>take on that?

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<v Speaker 4>I was. I was furious because I thought nep On

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<v Speaker 4>New Zealand were, let's be honest, we're funding a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of that, and I felt like we did the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 4>We I think they're expecting obviously that our very best

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<v Speaker 4>team that wasn't was never gonna happen, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think we were maybe upfront and up around what was that?

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think we let down ourselves because then

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like Netborne New Zealand's going to be very

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<v Speaker 4>gunshy to get us back because of that, and they

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<v Speaker 4>probably lost a lot of money over that. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're very diplomatic around how they spoke after that,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think it was an absolute shambles from our

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<v Speaker 4>point of view from Jamaica's porn of view.

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<v Speaker 1>Just with regards to the World Champs and Genny alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to it going every two years.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think it's a good idea, because my gut

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<v Speaker 4>feel is I'm wondering whether World Netbune is thinking does

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<v Speaker 4>that mean that comm Games, the Comwealth Games is under

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<v Speaker 4>threat and maybe it's not going to exist anymore, and

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<v Speaker 4>so we're looking to make sure that there's something in

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<v Speaker 4>that other to that other period. So and if it

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<v Speaker 4>goes to every two years and say COMM Games vanishes,

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<v Speaker 4>it will probably be a better sequencing of the four

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<v Speaker 4>year cycle because clearly at the moment we've got Conwealth

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<v Speaker 4>Games one year and then World Champs the very next year.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also worry about it. Do World Netball not

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<v Speaker 4>think we're going to get in the Olympics, and so

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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to also put in a thing to go, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we're not. We haven't got any Olympics, but we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to go to Worlds every two years. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a good idea because I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>there's enough competition in terms of teams being able to

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<v Speaker 4>get exposed enough. I think if you can only get

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<v Speaker 4>exposed once every four years, I think we're seeing the

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<v Speaker 4>top say eight teams getting further and further away from

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the rest of the team. So I'm not quite

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<v Speaker 4>sure what the answer to that is, but at the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a good idea. Money is going to

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<v Speaker 4>clearly been should open. Yeah, a number of countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's where I look at it, and I'm going,

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<v Speaker 1>is it just going to be an elitist competition and

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<v Speaker 1>where teams that can afford to participate will participate?

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<v Speaker 3>Because already there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are some countries and Tonga is an example of that

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<v Speaker 1>where they're saying, you know, we're having trouble getting a

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<v Speaker 1>team together every four years, how are we.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to do it every two years? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's a really good it's a really good point,

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<v Speaker 4>and that we wouldn't want that to occur because otherwise

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it defeats the purpose ye completely. But

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<v Speaker 4>do you alwish I knew an answer to that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that we should be in the Olympics?

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<v Speaker 4>I do. I think I think we really need to

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<v Speaker 4>keep exposing our game to a wider and wider audience.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it that might just be a nice

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<v Speaker 4>leverage to audiences that currently don't see it. And my

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<v Speaker 4>my thing, my gut feel though, is if it is

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<v Speaker 4>in the Olympics, I am imagine it might be more

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<v Speaker 4>the fast five game because of numbers, they might want

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<v Speaker 4>to keep it down, but I'd prefer it to be

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<v Speaker 4>the seven A side game. I even though fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fast fives, fast five, but I do love the seven

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<v Speaker 4>a side game, and I think that would showcase our

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<v Speaker 4>athletes in the very best light. And the thing about it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's such a such a great game. My only thing

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<v Speaker 4>about netball sometimes I don't think television does it justice.

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<v Speaker 4>I always think that the speed of the athleticism sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't come through on the television. When you're there live,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you go, wow, I look at

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<v Speaker 4>these it's flying about it. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how often I've been when I've been

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<v Speaker 2>commentating that various things around the world, and people were

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<v Speaker 2>working on it say I had no idea it was

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<v Speaker 2>so fast, And I think that's the wake up call.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I agree with you. But one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to ask you is would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>see more men coaching. I mean, I think you're the

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<v Speaker 2>only bloke coaching on this in the elite you know area.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to see more men in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always been I've always been gun shy around the

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<v Speaker 4>men versus women thing, only because I always think you you,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're good enough, you should get opportunity. But we

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't just just because I'm a blow it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>I should get a gig. I think I have to

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<v Speaker 4>prove that I'm good enough and show that I'm good

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<v Speaker 4>enough because and if you and if you do that, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care if you're a man woman, whatever the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 4>if it arises, you should have So Yep, I think

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<v Speaker 4>you should earn. I think everything should be earned.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I am so with you on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you were head coach, I think a few years

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<v Speaker 2>ago at the Magpies. Would you ever go back to

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<v Speaker 2>being a head coach or those days done?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I just if the if the right opportunity came. Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>But currently at the moment, like the organization, I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>the environment, I'm in the players i'm working with, and

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<v Speaker 4>it allows me currently to do the international stuff because

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<v Speaker 4>I really did want to get into international netball, and

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<v Speaker 4>I felt because I do spend well so far, I've

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<v Speaker 4>often been spending say three or four months in Jamaica

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<v Speaker 4>a year, and I felt like, if you're a head coach,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be able to do that justice and do

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<v Speaker 4>both roles. So that's why I hadn't put my hand

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<v Speaker 4>up for any of the head coach role. Because I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to maintain that. Whether that continues, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Well now I've got to get back on track. Big game. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but well no, because I steered you off track. Big

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<v Speaker 2>game this Sunday against the Tactics. You're after the three peete.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you do it? Can you get the home final? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Look, if we play really well, yes we can. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure Tactics would say exactly the same thing. And

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<v Speaker 4>from our point of view, we we haven't been as

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<v Speaker 4>consistent as we're like often we you know, we'd get

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<v Speaker 4>out to a lead and then we'll let teams back

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<v Speaker 4>in rather than going right, we've got a nice lead

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<v Speaker 4>and put your foot down and keep extending it, so

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<v Speaker 4>we keep letting people back in. So that inconsistency is

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<v Speaker 4>the bit that we need to tidy up because if

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<v Speaker 4>we're inconsistent against tactics, they'll beat us inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you know to me, that this whole year's

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<v Speaker 2>competition has been inconsistent. The scores have been up and

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<v Speaker 2>down and all over the place. What would be your

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<v Speaker 2>take on that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with that, and I'm wondering whether certainly

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<v Speaker 4>it was a compressed season. Certainly pre season has been

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<v Speaker 4>shorter than normal, but it also appears to have been

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<v Speaker 4>a significant rise in injuries, and I think that's affected

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<v Speaker 4>teams being able to get all their players either training

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<v Speaker 4>or playing together, and that time together clearly is going

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<v Speaker 4>to help around that consistency piece. That's a bit that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really interested what what's causing that, because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like across this season there's been a number of times

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<v Speaker 4>a number of teams have been out, had a number

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<v Speaker 4>of their main line out, And I was thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's interesting, what's what's what's that? What's that about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look at the Pulse, look at the Stars. You

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<v Speaker 2>know they've had a terrible season. Yes, well not the Pulse,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Timmy Potter Bailey and her first season as

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<v Speaker 2>a head coach, nightmare.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so unlucky, like they've just had these injuries that

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes you just you need a bit of luck.

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<v Speaker 4>I always think you need a bit of luck during

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<v Speaker 4>the season and sometimes those injuries can just they can

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<v Speaker 4>affect your big time.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of all our little interviews, we do

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<v Speaker 2>a thing called the fast Fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Inside Netball's Fast five.

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<v Speaker 2>What would be your go to postgame snack?

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<v Speaker 4>A coke? Well, certainly would be a certainly'd be a

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<v Speaker 4>coke on the time. I know it's a drink, but

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<v Speaker 4>that would still be my snack.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you could compete in any other sport other

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<v Speaker 2>than netball, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 4>And why I was rubbish and everything? But what I

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<v Speaker 4>would love to have been. I would love to have

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<v Speaker 4>been like an international cricket umpire. Oh I would love

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<v Speaker 4>to have done that. But you know, I went down

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<v Speaker 4>a different path like netball took me, which was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>So but that's what I'll do. I'd be hopeless of

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<v Speaker 4>it if I was playing anything.

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<v Speaker 2>If now number three, who in your team is most

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<v Speaker 2>likely to get you into trouble and then most likely

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<v Speaker 2>to get you out of trouble?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh besides yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I get myself in trouble. What it almost might

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<v Speaker 4>be the same person. Oh no, no, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>separate it. So Katie Tiao would be the most likely

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<v Speaker 4>to get me into trouble. She's real cheeky, like she's

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<v Speaker 4>every session or every training session, she hides my bag

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<v Speaker 4>and can never find it. She's hiding stuff. And the

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<v Speaker 4>person will probably get me out of trouble is Petter.

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<v Speaker 4>She's real clever, so she'll find a way for me

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<v Speaker 4>to get out of trouble. So she's always on speed dial.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, one, two to go. If you could take any

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<v Speaker 2>three athletes in the world, current or present, dead or

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<v Speaker 2>alive with you to dinner, who would you invite?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? I would go. Lebron James is just I think

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<v Speaker 4>from his longevity in the sport, like obviously just you know, amazing,

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<v Speaker 4>certainly up there with Michael Jordan as one of the

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<v Speaker 4>very best players in the world, and what he's done

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<v Speaker 4>off court as well, his work away from basketball is real,

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<v Speaker 4>real cool. So I would go with that. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily an athlete, but I start from Game of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 4>She's the one that killed the king.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never watched game.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me, yeah, she's yeah, she's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you've got one more.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have to go with your co host.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't go there.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to like one like the world's best sense

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<v Speaker 4>of humor, like obviously knows the game inside out, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's like you can have a conversation and you learn

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<v Speaker 4>so much, but you'll also have laughed just self silly

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<v Speaker 4>in it, So it would be just an amazing experience.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's my three.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on my Christmas card list.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, last one, best piece of advice anyone has ever

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<v Speaker 2>given you.

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<v Speaker 4>This one's an easy one, So I was the best

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<v Speaker 4>piece of advice I was given is to be myself,

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<v Speaker 4>so not try and and that was from a coaching

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<v Speaker 4>point of view, because when I first started coaching, you

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<v Speaker 4>see what other people are doing and you try and

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<v Speaker 4>mimic them, or you think this is what you should

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<v Speaker 4>do rather than you know, be authentic, like if you'll quiet,

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<v Speaker 4>be quiet, if you're a bit crazy, be crazy, etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I passed it on to everyone. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's the best thing you can do because one I

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<v Speaker 4>always think players see through or fraud or if you're

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<v Speaker 4>if you're trying to fake it they'll see through it.

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<v Speaker 4>You might do it, you might get away with it once,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's hard work trying to not belf So that's

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<v Speaker 4>the best piece of ice. And I got that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>more than twenty five years ago. But it's stuck with

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<v Speaker 4>me forever and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true to it as well, and it's lasted the

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<v Speaker 2>test of time. Well, Rob, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time. Best of luck on Sunday. And look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure it'll be a great game.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it'll be a cracker talking all things netball,

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<v Speaker 4>Inside Netball, the Inside Netball Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Now round nine pretty much the finalists are set, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the mystics are there, the tactics are there, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's still a bit of a question mark as to

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<v Speaker 2>who is there with them. First game of the round

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<v Speaker 2>was the Pulse Stars. Now the Pulse are very much

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<v Speaker 2>in it, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this was one round that we probably could

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<v Speaker 1>have predicted who was going to win the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's how it worked out. And yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>everything is still about the last round because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>top position. That's still up for grabs, and that's tactics, mystics.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be an interesting one, and certainly the Pulse absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and in their next game they will have

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<v Speaker 1>to win it. And if they don't, still is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be smiling because then they're in with a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, the Pulse.

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<v Speaker 1>Stars game the Stars. You know, I know it's been

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.959
<v Speaker 1>a difficult season for them. They were only two points

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<v Speaker 1>behind at halftime, and they are only six points behind

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<v Speaker 1>it three quarter time, so they were still in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happened. Pulse finally came to the equation

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>must have woken up. They won the last quarter twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two to seven. And you know, I looked at it

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<v Speaker 1>at the stats in that game as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Pulse won that sixty five forty four. The Scars were

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<v Speaker 1>penalized seventy times. And the reason I bring that up

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.639
<v Speaker 1>is because Rob Bright spoke about that as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is far too many penalties against them. And once

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<v Speaker 1>again Warmsley very very dominant forty six out of forty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Pulse didn't have what i'd call the consistency.

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<v Speaker 3>And boy have we been talking about that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have that, and I looked at them, going

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<v Speaker 1>is this is a championship team, and at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>No they're not, but they're noms.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, let's rite Yvonne. But then they're missing some

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 2>of these starters, like what they sooner out with I

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 2>think a concussion for Amu Yuani missed another game with illness,

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Tiana Maturo illness, So you know, what can you expect?

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought it was a rough game, and I

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<v Speaker 2>also thought that in that was it halfway through the

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter when there was an ugly bit of play

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 2>in the Pulse defensive circle, flurry of arms and legs

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<v Speaker 2>and what have you. In Paris, Mason just went to

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, went to the bottom of the court

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<v Speaker 2>and sort of got sat on. I mean, last I heard,

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<v Speaker 2>she's fine, she's still having a few tests. But is

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<v Speaker 2>the game getting too rough?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And I know the incident and yeah, you're right,

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Pulse that was totally shuffle on their part and they

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<v Speaker 1>still came through absolutely, and don't take that away from them.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but there are times, and you know, Rob

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 1>alluded to it, sometimes it's also the player's responsibilities, but

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the line it is also the umpire's responsibility. Yes,

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>they penalize and I spoke about it. The Stars seventy

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>penalties that could have been lowered if the umpire had said,

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>for instance, okay, that's enough, let's just tidy up the game.

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think that action by an umpire makes a

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<v Speaker 1>big difference. It's a bit like a player being sent

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<v Speaker 1>off for a couple of minutes. When they come back on,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a slightly different person. And that's why sometimes I'm going,

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's not a particular individual, it's the

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>game is getting rough, then you know, stamp on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't just make the calls and keep making

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the calls and the same calls. I actually would say, look,

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>stop baying. This is the way it's got to be.

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you say that, and I agree with you, But

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, you look across the Tasman to the SSN

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and man, I mean, I don't think they've had a

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 2>player sent off. I don't think they've had a suspension

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 2>or anything. It is full of yeah and well, I know,

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I think a few people sort of make a comment, but.

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say they do though they they've

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>been commenting on the fact that the game is getting

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>very physical. Appreciate defensively, it's a slightly different style it's

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>very much and one on one defense, unlike like we

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>have a bit more what I call space marking or

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>off for body marking. But yeah, I just find that

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>there is stuff going that stuff's going down here, that

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it's the same stuff, and players aren't making the changes accordingly.

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going you've been penalized for that two or

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>three times change a whole approach to the game.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now, next game was the game of the round.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I think Mystic Steel so much writing on it. The mystics, Yes,

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 2>they are in the finals already, but they were you know,

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 2>if you've talked about fighting for a home final, but

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the steal, you know, I felt it was all therefore

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>on the I think at the beginning of that final

0:25:55.680 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>quarter they could see it. But fil Devoui and those

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>super shots, she did them absolutely.

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>And it's really interesting because the Steel coach, when you

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>threw like she say, we've got this, we can do this,

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and the belief in the team is unbelievable. And I

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>believe with about two minutes to go or maybe three,

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>still had the game for the taking. They missed a

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>two pointer at that stage and so the ball went

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>down the other end and just like you said, Vuiye

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>nailed two two pointers and that is how the game

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>ended up, and that enabled Mystics to come out on top.

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, really interesting.

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>And I enjoyed the game, and again probably more sobecause

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I like to see that defensive matchup between Hall and Steith,

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think both of them are in contention. In fact,

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I expect to see their names in the SilverFin squad,

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 1>not the team in the squad, so that's always going

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 1>to be interesting. The thing that I did question in

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that game, Georgia Heffman went off at some stage. Now

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she was injured, sick, or whatever happened.

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you because i'd gotten and coaching decision.

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah see, and I found that interesting. And yes,

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Grace Numana came on.

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes she's played for them in the past, but not

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>this season, appreciating that to me also was unavailable. And yeah, yeah,

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 1>I still was surprised that that Georgia Hefferlin wasn't shooting bad.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm going, Oh, I don't know if

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>this is an injury or whatever, but to bring someone

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.959
<v Speaker 1>that hasn't been in the team, she might have been

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a training partner probably has, but and I've indicated that before.

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, training is totally different than actually on court action.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>With that, and in that game, yep, the super Shop

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>made the difference.

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>And Vouy nailed three out of four.

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Incredible, isn't it. She fascinates me, Phil Devouis. She's just so,

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 2>she carries herself very evenly and there's no hysterics, no nothing.

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 2>She just you know, gets about her business. Now brings

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>us to Monday Night Tactics versus Magic again, the Tactics

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of safely through into the top three. Magic they

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>were desperate, really and they didn't make it. Was it

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight fifty seven? But you know there was an

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>element there that Emilia Anikinasio shot the two pointers now

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 2>and she did. They were successful, six from six from eight,

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and I love the fact that she and her opposing defender,

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, embraced after she shot the last one because

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 2>I think, well, I don't know, I guess their mates

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>and everyone was very happy for the other. But why

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't she do that? All season?

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Haven't we been talking about that? And I've certainly been

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about that. Yeah, absolutely, it was a situation. You

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>look at that and you're going to see it shows

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that you can do the two pointers. Yeah, six out

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of eight you got in that one. And yeah, I

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>remember the hard that was really quite cool. And I'm going, oh,

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you know that.

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Was the opposition. But even if it wasn't, I thought

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 3>it was and good spirits it was. Put it back.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was.

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>The second quarter in that game set the tone twenty

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to twelve to the Tech Dicks in that quarter, you know,

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and then oh that was interesting. A magic came back

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and they won the third quarter twenty to fourteen. Donna

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Wilkins was questioned about that, and the first thing she said, yeah, yeah,

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>but that was thanks to the two point shots, and

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm going, yeah, in a way, yes, but they are

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>part of our game.

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 3>It's as simple as that.

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the game, Donna Wilkins said, oh, look,

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>we just want to win the game. Like for the

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>next game against the Mystics, we just want to win

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the game. And the reason of that is because they're

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>at home and it's a situation on Actually, no, it's

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the Mystics, isn't it home ground is the next game? Yeah,

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>but they have been winning all their games at home,

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and so that's what it's all about. And I'm going, yeah,

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to just win. Don't give me this.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 1>You actually have to win by six or more because

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>if Mystics do lose but they are within five, they

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>will then be on the same points and I think

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>gold differential will allow Mystics to take the top.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is now, this is where it gets particularly

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 2>interested that let's jump ahead now to that next round. Yeah,

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Magic versus Pulse, So well, the Magic, you know, I

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think that they can make any headway, but I

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 2>don't think they can go any higher actually, but they

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>can certainly pull the Pulse down by beating them.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and teams have spoken about that. At the bottom,

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can still disrupt and yeah, you have

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a look at it. We just alluded to it, Ecanasio.

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>If she starts shooting two pointers, they could really be

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>in there. And they have at times been in there

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but just not have been successful. Look, both the Magic

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and in the Stars. I'm sure we'll talk about them.

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>They want to finish at least the season on a

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of a high. Having said that, I'm sure the

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>coaches will then turn around and say, well, if you

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>can do it for the last game, how can We

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't been consistent throughout the season, so they're in trouble

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens. But you know that's a situation.

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Pulse has to win it still will certainly look

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>at that game because if Pole does win, it still

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>has no chance even if they win to make.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 2>It that's right. And then of course you've got the

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 2>big game on Sunday, Mystics Tactics, who do you think

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>will win that?

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Exactly as Rob said, Actually, like Mystics have been inconsistent.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>If they are totally on their game, they must be favorites.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>But then you can look at the Tactics and on

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the whole they've probably been the more consistent out of

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the two teams. I just would like to see a

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>really close game, only it's almost going to be a final.

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it could very much end up being a

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>final anyway.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>And if you're the Tactics, who do you put at goal?

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Shoot?

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 3>And you can say that, isn't it interesting?

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Ali Bird played the last game In total, I thought

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that Salmon would come on and readiness for the next

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>game didn't happen. But I think Ali Bird is easy

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to feed, and it's a different combination yet she's slightly taller.

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But also I don't know they do don't forget she's

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>been with them for a long time, so I guess

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why one reason why she is easy to feed.

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll start with Bird, but I can also

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>see Salmon coming on at some stage in the equation.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And hey, it may come down to the two point

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>shot at the end of every five and I'd like

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to see it utilized, not just in the last quarter

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>to sort of get up in a bit of a

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>competitive score, but actually throughout the game.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Interesting though, isn't it, because you think Ellie Bird but

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 2>as you say, played with them for Yolks, but playing

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>some of the best netball of her life, but along

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 2>with Selby Rickett, Eric Anna Petterson, Jane Watson not available

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 2>for the Ferns.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:38.959
<v Speaker 1>I was just going to say that, yeah, and that

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>may make a difference to Ali Bird, the fact that

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>she's just playing for this game. That's a reason maybe

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Salmon will come on. She may come on a goal attack.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>But having said that, boys Selby Ricketts is playing well

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and I actually would have given her Player of the

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Game last week, and I know Jane Watson got it,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>but I would have given it to her mainly because

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>her attacking players there. When she needs the shoot, she

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>does shoot. And I just think that she's having a

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>really good season. Yes, I agree, I agree very much.

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Now moving right along, because last week the final of

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the National Netball League was played and well, for a change,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Central Manawah didn't win, Mainland did. Yeah, and also they

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>had some A and Z players in their team. Malasala

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>was there, right And I looked at that and going, oh,

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>is that the reason maybe she hasn't been played more

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.959
<v Speaker 1>in the A and Z competition because isn't there a

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>certain amount before?

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 3>I think it's only going up, maybe not going down.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but yeah, I found that interesting and

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm going, oh, Mainland actually hasn't got the most experience

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>in their team, but certainly they played well as a

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>collective unit, and boy, I think that's the first time

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>they actually they won that championship.

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 3>And good on them.

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously that's great for their future and great

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>for the A and Z team. So yeah, even like

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously you know, the the the tactics, they're playing really

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>well at home.

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 2>So you know, and the thing I went through my

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>mind was, boy, I know so many of these players,

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's because this National League is doing

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 2>its job. It's feeding the A n Z because we've

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 2>had so many injuries as we all we've all talked about,

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know, there's been an absolute parade of National

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>League players coming through the Stars, coming through some of

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the steel and it's.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 3>But I'd like to see it changed at the moment.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And it may only be in the Auckland region, but

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying there's an age restriction on it,

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>but they do tend to favor the younger players. And

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been the club competition and I'm going WHOA some

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>of these players Actually, you know, it would be interesting

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 1>to see if they could take the step up. And

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I like to just see that it's the next tier

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>down the n and L, that it's the players selected

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>for that the next best players in the region. And

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that's necessarily happening because you're twenty three,

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty four year old, so are playing club netball basically

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>well not in aligible, but I'm not looked at for

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the NNL competition, and I think there shouldn't be an

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>age restriction on that.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, well you that and that may well be right. Now, look,

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>one more thing we have to touch on before we go.

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe Harton and lover her or hater. I know when

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>if she was playing for England against New Zealand, I

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>used to I hate a strong word, but you know

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't her biggest fan. But she is a great woman.

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember when she was here playing for the Magic

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 2>and then she followed Julie Fitzgerald across to Australia. She's

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>made a home in Sydney, she's had a baby, she's

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, she's just she's made a whole new life

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>for herself out here. And I understand she's going into coaching.

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I understand she's you know, she's announced her retirement from

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>playing netball. Did you have much to do with it?

0:35:59.360 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 3>A little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And it was going to be a question

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<v Speaker 1>of when was she going to retire? You know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could see that it was happening and she was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get more into coaching. But you know, never

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<v Speaker 1>say never. Hey remember Casey koepoor. Oh that's right. She's

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<v Speaker 1>playing at the moment, so you know, and she's still

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<v Speaker 1>valuable in their team, and yeah, obviously in slightly lesser role.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, shooters don't have to move us much. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's had a wonderful, wonderful career, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I love about it is that she's still staying involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Just in a different capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she's the sort of player she'll always talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you wherever you are and I always value that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, we have reached the end of this program,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know where those two magazine readers are,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure that well, I hope that they'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back next week. In the meantime, martiwa