1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Yes to wrap the week. Tim Wilson joins us as always. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Tell it, Tom Andrew, how's it going? 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Very good? And thank you so much. Carrie Woodham preparing 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: heavily for her show to nine o'clock this morning, and 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: we've said there is no cake. There is no cake. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Please come and help us out and to do so. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: And you're magnificently dressed in all black jersey. It is 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: the day and well. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: The last time I wore this was at the World 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: Cup in France where I almost got put off rugby 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: for life. Watching England and South Africa. It was awful. 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: It was like watching rugby being murdered. I was so 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I thought England and like the 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: Test last week, I had no expectations at all. I 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: was so furious with England. I never wanted to see 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: them play anything ever again. But I thought they did 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: really well. It was a great test. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: Was only one point in't it? And they both had 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: weeks to you to a week to Guinea better and Tim, 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: are you into this or not? Is this not your bag? 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Why would you say something like that? No one loves 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: the rugby more than me and you come on, get. 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: Over it over wristling with testoster in this very morning. 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: I'll tell I'll tell you what you're picking. What you're 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: picking twelve John Haunts picking a victory as well. I 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 2: kind of go against the experts. Elliott your your rugby 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: man's picking five. I'll go I'll split the difference. I'll 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: say seven, what do you think carry? 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: No, I think it'd be more than I think it'll be. Yeah, 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: I think a victory and I think double figures. Do 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: you know the other thing? And I know I should 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: let it go, Let it go, let it go, as 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: Elsa would advocate. But when England are here, they train 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: at les Mills or have done it. I don't know 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: if this particular team does. But they leave their weights 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: behind for somebody else to pick up, which I just 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: find unforgivable. 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: And you've got to pick them up. You're going to 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: clean them. 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: And once I snapped at one young man and said, 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: your nanny's not here to pick up after you. You've 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: got to put You've got to put your weights back. 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: Here there we go, and he just looked at me 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: as though I was insane, an insane mad woman approaching him. 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: But put your weights back, boys, put you away, there's just. 46 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: A lingering, harboring petty receipt cam. 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, can we now just talk about this because darling Tana. 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: Of course, more details came out about how she might 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: have been involved with her husband's company, including a bit 50 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: of a contradant with someone a migrant worker, which involved 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: the cops being called, and she said, oh, I'm sorry, 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: I just got my mama bear on. So obviously you 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: got your mama bear on with the English player. What 54 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: is the mama bear. 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: No, I got thin lipped head mistress on because I 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: thought they'd understand that better. Okay, if you want to 57 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: look like I think that just stands for violent and shouting. Really, 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: I mean you want to look what mamas do, like 59 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: the mama elephant who when that idiot South African approached 60 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: with a camera. No he wasn't. He was a Spanish 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: tourist in South Africa and approached a mother elephant with 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: her babies in a herd. He he paid in the 63 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: most brutal and horror way when she'd don Mamma elephant. 64 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: You know you can forgive an elephant, you cannot forgive 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: a rational woman for yelling and carrying on like a 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: pork Chop exactly. You've got an anger issue in the group. 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: For all the comboy ara and peace and love, there's 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: a lot of shouting going on there. 69 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: You reckon him, Mama Bear. Is that a decent enough excuse? 70 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: No? 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: No, well I think it's not. It's not. It's not 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 2: an excuse for that. That's that's a completely different situation. 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: But I am I am. I am very pro Mama 74 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: and Papa Beer because I actually had a son who 75 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: was like, he was trying to take a bean bag downstairs. 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: We're staying at a mates place at the moment. We're 77 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: out at Lee, so I'm running four kids at the 78 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: moment because my wife's offered the studio recording songs. And 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: he's like, Dad, can you carry the bean bag down 80 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: down the stairs. It's like, no, no, you can do 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: that yourself. So it's the different tempos of RS sort 82 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: of approaches, the Muma and Papa Beer. 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Lifestyle of Tim Wilson where he's at a coastal retreat 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: to Lee and his wife is downstairs wearing Muslim with 85 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: flowers in his hair and recording songs and and and 86 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: you're hanging hang with the kids. It's it's like Laurel Canyon. 87 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's it's a Madison Bay. That's that's 88 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: a very different sitcom. What's happening is be're actually you're 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: actually making breakfast and making their beds and putting on 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: their touxedos for a caked breakfast in the morning. Now 91 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 2: it's a circus down here, so please you guys save 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: me now. 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: Honestly, school holidays. I do not gone of the days 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: where you'd pack up the car every school holidays and 95 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: one parent or two would take off and have a 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: lovely holiday. Usually that's when the fairies would go on strike. 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: That's exactly when the fairies would yeah, a single time. 98 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: How would you now just run aground round? 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: Have you ever actually put yourself in the position of 100 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: the crew that were on the boat at the time 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: when they're just sort of going, oh, well, the boat's 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: working all nice and all good and all that sort 103 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: of thing, and someone bumps a button and then to 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: turn the button off, you've got to push another button 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: for five seconds, and Allen of course is looking in 106 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the in the manual go hey, how does this work? 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: And finally when he figures out, oh mate, you gotta 108 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: hold it down for five seconds and they hold it 109 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: down and the South Island continues to come closer. Can 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: you imagine what it must have been like in that fairy? 111 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: To me, the gold standard of incompetence and fairies is 112 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: that terrible Italian fairy captain who ran it around and 113 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: passengers died and he was the first to flee the 114 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: ship after entertaining a little miss bang bang up in 115 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: the up in the captain. 116 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: He just wanted to take the boat closer for a 117 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: bit of. 118 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: You, I know, and the coastguard said get back to 119 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: your ship, and he went, no, it's dangerous there about it. 120 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: Until you can compete with that kind of egregious, appalling behavior, 121 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: then I'll just wait for the investigation and see what's wort. 122 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: Look, look a little text over just I met him, 123 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: being the person who also sat there and went, hmm, 124 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I think that python's fully. 125 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: I have a bit of sympathy for the I really do. 126 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: I'd look, you'd got to go, you feel sick and 127 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: you go, and can I run there and catch it? 128 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: No, it's that horrible thing if you don't mean it. 129 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: But the damage is so great that I mean because 130 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: I always. 131 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: Say that you know that furniture, that furniture that you 132 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: buy on the cheap and you have to put it 133 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: together yourself. And this is actually one of the if 134 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: anyone is planning to get married, they should do that 135 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: together first. And if they're still looking with love and 136 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: one another's eyes, go forward. 137 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: And the family realized just before you've actually put in 138 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the last bolt that you've got it all wrong in 139 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: the first place. You built the thing upside down and 140 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: inside out. And they've been laughing for the last ten 141 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: minutes at you. 142 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: And then yeah, I want to apologize to stores too, 143 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: because twice we've got to the end of that, or 144 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: we got to the end of that and I said, look, 145 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: they went back to the store. There wasn't that extra 146 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: bit you said that we needed. It wasn't there, And 147 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: they just hand it over with this sort of resigned 148 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: look in their eyes. And you get home and it's there, It. 149 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Is there, It is okay, Tim Wilson. Have we ever 150 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: seen a New Zealand Prime minister more delighted and excited 151 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: to be at a global summit than Christopher Lexon? 152 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, no, he's he's and he's cheering a committee. 153 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: He's getting getting tough on China interesting sort of wider 154 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: geopolitical situation. So it seems that Joe Biden has gained 155 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: Christopher Luxon this week but lost George Clooney. So I 156 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: don't think it's fucking good for Biden. I'm sorry that 157 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: he is. 158 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: He's bouncing around like an anergizer bunny, going oh my god, 159 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: oh look that's that person. And oh look there's Trudeau 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: and he's just so just what. 161 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: He's energetic and he's he is. I mean, that's what 162 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: happens when you get up at four a new exercise 163 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: and you don't drink. Did that be a listen to 164 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: all of us? 165 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: Really? 166 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: But I mean at least he's there. And when Ston 167 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: Peters is out there on the on the global stage, 168 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: I mean jinda a doing to be fair was he 169 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: was out there on the global stage as well. But 170 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: you know he's picking up where she left off. 171 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: And you can imagine world leaders are going, oh look, 172 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: here comes out the news in Prime minister. God he's happy, 173 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: isn't he got? That's lovely? 174 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: You know, positivity on a Friday is fantastic. 175 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that is so true that I feel. 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: So sorry for Biden's press secretary. I think she's doing 177 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: an amazing job. Kareen. Yeah, I look at her and think, 178 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: however much you're paid, triple it. Joe Biden cannot stay there. 179 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: He just can't trumps pressed, do you. 180 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. The US E. Columny is doing 181 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: incredibly so whoever's running the joint doesn't really just keep 182 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: it going. But you've got to have a good. 183 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: Front man, for Heaven's sake. I mean, you wouldn't put up. 184 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: You've got to have a good front man and a 185 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: great band behind you. You know, you can't have Joe 186 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: Biden as yours you front. 187 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, why do the Democrats not have enough walls to 188 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: actually go for someone else? You can say the same 189 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: about the Republicans. 190 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: Well, that's true, that's true. 191 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, have they lost their mojo? Have they lost 192 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: their courage? I don't know. 193 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's incomprehensible to me that that's it. I mean, 194 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: do everybody that the whole world that that is it? 195 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: That's what America can offer as front people? 196 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: And it's I think, yeah, And it's a problem I 197 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: would say with the with the notion and in a sense, 198 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: the notion that politicians are a class on their own 199 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: and and and the fact that the American elites aren't 200 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: renewing themselves from below. So I mean, and we've got 201 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: a bit of a problem like that in New Zealand 202 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: as well, because like we don't have that many actually 203 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: we don't have any working class people in parliament anymore. 204 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: So we need we need more people. We need the 205 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: people in the seats. 206 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: We do have working class people in there who would 207 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: describe themselves as working class. 208 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: We have we have a lot of academics. We have 209 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: a lot of academic class. We have a lot of 210 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: we had a lot more academic legal class. We have 211 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: all those sorts of people as well. So you know, 212 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: so I see what. 213 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: Families who come from you know, to be honest, have 214 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: you not noticed big. 215 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: More optimistic most of them can form sentences, full sentences, 216 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: unlike Joe Biden. So let's emphasize the positives. Let's go 217 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: across laxon On and DC. 218 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: And have you not I also notice that there's a 219 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: generation that's looking at all the jobs that how sort 220 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: of generation does and they sit there go, well, you know, 221 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't really want to do that anymore. And so 222 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: you're quite right, we're not renewing ourselves. As Tim said before, 223 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: like who wants to read the news on the TV? 224 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: Who watches the TV these days is a millennial. 225 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: But see that's not renewing. 226 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's as a new generation. 227 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: I think it's a new I think regeneration is better 228 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: than just replicating good stuff. 229 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Tim Wilson, have a great weekend, Kerry Wouldham have a 230 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: great Thank you so much. 231 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, Listen live to 232 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 233 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.