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Speaker 1: Barris pasing your political correspondence with us A Barry.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Heather. I've been brow beaten. I have over

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Speaker 2: the past twenty four hours, but you know I'm used

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 3: Have you?

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Speaker 1: Have you resigned yourself to the outcome?

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Speaker 2: What a wonderful man Donald Trump is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, not that, oh wonderful man. Poor human being.

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Speaker 1: He's one, though, isn't he. It's quite funny, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling well?

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Speaker 2: It seems all the lea you've been to the.

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Speaker 1: Cardiac guy, just to check that everything's okay in there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now, listen, the Treaty Principal's Bill has made it

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Speaker 4: to Parliament and I imagine that this got quite heated today.

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Speaker 2: Yes it did. And of course protesters are out here

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Speaker 2: in Auckland and in Wellington and that's in preparation for

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Speaker 2: the Hikuoi next week and that will happen probably on

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Speaker 2: the day that it's first debated. I think it's next Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it'll be first debated in Parliament. But the point that

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Speaker 2: David Seymour has been making, and I think it's a

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Speaker 2: good point that the White Tangi Tribunal have been able

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Speaker 2: to develop principles that have been used to justify the

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Speaker 2: actions that are contrary to the principle of equal rights,

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Speaker 2: and that's co governance and stuff like that. And either

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Speaker 2: Parliament can define them, which is what Parliament's role should be,

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Speaker 2: and certainly not the Waitangi Tribunal. And that's the whole

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Speaker 2: point of him trying to spell out what these principles are,

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Speaker 2: because they're written into many pieces of legislation and they're

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Speaker 2: based on interpretation of others as opposed to the lawmakers themselves.

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Speaker 2: And I think that, in fact, is a good way

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Speaker 2: to proceed. Basically, he says, the bill won't alter the

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Speaker 2: treaty itself, it will be used to assist the interpretation

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Speaker 2: of the legislation. And I say here here to that.

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Speaker 2: The Maori Party, though it attempted to have the bill

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Speaker 2: withdrawn as soon as it was tabled in Parliament this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: here's co leaders Rowery Way to Tea and Debiino Riwa Packer.

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Speaker 5: I seek leave to move a motion without notice and

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Speaker 5: without debate that this House honest to teity, await honey

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Speaker 5: and withdraws the Treaty Principal's Bill. Thought, is there any

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Speaker 5: objection there appears to the objection the introduction of the

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Speaker 5: Treaty Principal's Bill without consulting King Charles.

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Speaker 4: Is a sign of disrespect and brings the House into disrepute.

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Speaker 6: What what's the point that she's making is that you

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Speaker 6: know the Crown should have been informed about I'm sure

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Speaker 6: King Charles would be right in the front of a

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Speaker 6: seat wanting to know exactly that what.

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Speaker 2: Was in the Treaty Principal's Bill. But the point that

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Speaker 2: was made by Jerry Brown and is absolutely true that

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Speaker 2: there is a speech from the Throne at the start

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Speaker 2: of every parliamentary session and the last one last year

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Speaker 2: was no exception, and the Treaty Principal's Bill was mentioned

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Speaker 2: in that. And if the Queen was sorry, the King

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Speaker 2: was interested, he would have been able to talk to

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Speaker 2: his Governor General here and got the low down on it.

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Speaker 2: And don't know whether there is taking that opportunity or

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Speaker 2: taken the opportunity to do that. But look, there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of tension in Parliament today. The speaker, your

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Speaker 2: old mate Helmet, he was there making a lot of

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Speaker 2: noise in the public glories. I understand that, and he

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Speaker 2: left sort of yelling and making faces at ministers in

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Speaker 2: Parliament David Seymour, though he's now launched an online campaign

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Speaker 2: now that the bill's been introduced, he's sitting at his

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Speaker 2: desk in Parliament and in a video he tells viewers

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Speaker 2: that every key we will have the chance to make

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Speaker 2: a submission on the bill, which is absolutely right. I

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Speaker 2: mean after it's debated next week, then it'll be open

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Speaker 2: to a Parliamentary Select Committee and the public will get

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to make submissions. He said. The committee process

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Speaker 2: will be open within days of the bill being debated

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Speaker 2: next Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Ever, listen, everyone will have the chance to express their

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Speaker 3: opinion on this parliamentary bill without being shouted down or

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Speaker 3: told their view doesn't count. The bill's critics say that

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Speaker 3: this debate will be divisive, but I think they underestimate

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's ability to have constructive conversations on fundamental issues

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Speaker 3: like democracy and equal political rights. For my part, I

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Speaker 3: think each of us is united by universal humanity, the

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Speaker 3: same inherent dignity for each person. That's what's driven all

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Speaker 3: the good movements in human history.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's a very slick campaign and what

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Speaker 2: he's hoping to do is to get people to respond

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Speaker 2: to it. I mean I got an email about it

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Speaker 2: today and to support the bill. So he's trying to

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Speaker 2: sort of go, if you like, above Parliament and to

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Speaker 2: appeal to the public to have their.

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Speaker 4: Say really quickly. Barry, we don't have a lot of

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Speaker 4: time but seek Trump. We haven't talked enough about ka

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Speaker 4: Rudd just got busted. Kevin Rudd, Ambassador to the US

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Speaker 4: for Australia, just got busted with a whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: nasty tweets about Trump. At least this time we're more prepared,

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Speaker 4: right oh.

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Speaker 2: Now, Winston Seas were absolutely prepared. And he told Parliament

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Speaker 2: that this afternoon there was a funny side by to

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Speaker 2: it that Trump did well as we know of the

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Speaker 2: Latino vote, but Peters wasn't doing well with Ricardo Mendiz March,

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Speaker 2: who hails from Mexico and who barracked him in parliament.

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Speaker 5: Ever listened to this.

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Speaker 7: This is not the first time that I am subjected

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Speaker 7: to this kind of pretty or verte type of behavior,

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Speaker 7: and I take personal offense to my hanches the current

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Speaker 7: and note that it is incredibly unstatements like from the

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Speaker 7: Deputy Prime Minister, the acting Prime Minister.

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Speaker 5: We cannot have these members so sensitive. All I said

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Speaker 5: was in Spanish. All I said in Spanish was goodbye,

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Speaker 5: my friend. But he's offended by that. Oh, for goodness sake,

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Speaker 5: we have a very diverse parliament.

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Speaker 2: There's a bit of Trumpian behavior goes on with Winston

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Speaker 2: at times.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, interesting, very so for senior political correspondent. Actually, Winston's

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Speaker 4: with us just after five.

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