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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning to you and thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for choosing the program. So today in the next hour,

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Speaker 2: gas is at a crisis point, Shane Jones considering rationing supply.

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Speaker 2: Is there an easier answer to an ongoing problem? We'll

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Speaker 2: have that story for you in five Queens Sound tourism

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Speaker 2: is booming ahead of the rest of the country. So

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Speaker 2: what headaches is this causing? And we're too next for

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Speaker 2: the Adventure Capital, We're going to go to Australia where

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Speaker 2: our meet here has struck the state of Victoria. And

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Speaker 2: speaking of states, the government is to consider recognition of

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Speaker 2: the Palestine state. But is that as easy as it sounds?

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Speaker 2: That story just before six. We'll have these stories correspondens

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Speaker 2: from around the world and New Zealand and news as

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Speaker 3: Out five.

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Speaker 4: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the twelfth of August. Donald Trump is sending

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Speaker 2: him the National Guard again, this time to Washington d C.

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Speaker 2: He's taking control of the city's police. This is part

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Speaker 2: of a crime and homelessness crackdown.

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Speaker 5: Our capital city has been overtaken by violent gangs and

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Speaker 5: bloodthirsty criminals, roving mobs of wild youth, drugged out maniacs,

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Speaker 1: And we're not going to let it happen anymore. We're

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Speaker 2: Mayor Muriel Bowsa says there's no crime way and offenses

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Speaker 2: had been falling since twenty twenty three, So what's it

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Speaker 2: all about. A violent crime, they say, is now at

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: Funerals have been held for five Al Jazeera journalists killed

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Speaker 2: in an Israeli strike on Gaza City.

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Speaker 7: Johnalis are considered civilians in any war setting and should

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Speaker 7: not be targeted, and to target them deliberately is a

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Speaker 2: The just writing military say, is it targeted twenty eight

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Speaker 2: year old correspondent and that's al Sharif. They reckon he

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Speaker 2: led a Hamas terra cell, but so far that provided

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Speaker 7: Prior to the war, Anasa Shadif was working in the

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Speaker 7: team who has now been eliminated from Gaza City.

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Speaker 2: And finally, an easy Jet pilot has been suspended after

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Speaker 2: a wild night at a luxury resort in cap Verde.

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Speaker 2: gat work thirty six hours later. Well, no, he didn't

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Speaker 2: do that. He was grounded after complaints from people in

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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew

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Speaker 2: It'd be well, not a great pole for the government,

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Speaker 2: but to be feared, not a great pole for anyone.

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Speaker 2: The major parties are all mired in the thirties, the

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Speaker 2: gets above twenty percent approval. Christopher Luxen's on twenty percent,

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Speaker 2: Christopher Hipkins on nineteen. The headline here is we don't

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Speaker 2: like our politicians, any of them measurable popularity is just

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Speaker 2: But look, we're not happy with our government and we're

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Speaker 2: of our economic malaise and none are offering solutions. It's

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Speaker 2: next step, and I reckon that next step is fixing Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Simon Bridges from the Auckland Chamber made that call on

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Speaker 2: so it's still quite important. A number of National Party

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Speaker 2: word that's loaded with gravity. They speak the word pump priming.

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Speaker 2: They're talking loosening the government's purse strings to give Auckland

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Speaker 2: we've learnt only too well, but underspending collapses it, which

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Speaker 2: is what we're going through right now. And a few

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Speaker 2: policies that might see government cash flowing into the Aucland

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Speaker 2: some politicians. It's twelve after five zedby, So there's a

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Speaker 2: gas crisis. We know this. It's been bringing up for

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Speaker 2: a while and we've known this as well. But now

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Speaker 2: now we've got the Minister Shane Jones starting to talk

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Speaker 2: about rationing of gas. So how does the business feel

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Speaker 2: about that and is there an easy solution to this.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk in a few moments time to

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Speaker 2: Lehn Hower's lehn is the Major Gas Users Group spokesperson

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Speaker 2: and he's facing a crisis. He's next on new stalk ZENB.

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Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Andrew Dickins and Love Where You

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Speaker 2: The'd be It's fourteen minutes after five. So there is

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Speaker 2: a core for the government to take immediate action and

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Speaker 2: the gas sector supplies reaching a crisis point. The Business

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Energy Council and Optimal Energy Management Solutions have

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Speaker 2: joined forces to urge Minister Shane Jones to save manufacturing jobs.

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Speaker 2: So to talk about this, I'm joined by Lenn Howards,

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Speaker 2: who's the Major Gas Users Group spokesperson. Good on it

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Speaker 2: This is a problem that's been brewing up for twenty

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Speaker 2: years and we've never done anything about it. So how

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Speaker 8: I think it's getting pretty bad. The property is in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, we've been saying this for

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Speaker 2: twenty years. You know, we've got to find more gas.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have enough. We stopped looking for gas. Some

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Speaker 2: were saying we should have started the decarbonization process earlier.

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Speaker 9: Was that thinking, Well, I think basically the basic problem

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Speaker 9: and in fact, you know that's made it the government

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Speaker 9: policy to effectively create an energy transition.

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Speaker 8: What the government then failed to do, I think is

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Speaker 8: Putting them on a path to transition without the technology

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Speaker 8: of the economics able there to support that transition to happen.

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Speaker 2: So now this is all landed on Shane Jones' desk,

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Speaker 2: and you were at the meeting with Shane Jones. What

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Speaker 2: did he say and did it alleviate any concerns you had?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 8: I think Shane Jones obviously is a champion I think

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Speaker 8: for industry in New Zealand, and he's going to try

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Speaker 8: One of the ideas he had on the table I

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Speaker 8: think was too reserve gas industry rather than for electricity generation.

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Speaker 8: That's an idea that's being explored at the moment by

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Speaker 10: I take it.

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Speaker 2: And as the thought of rationing which has come out

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Speaker 2: of Shane's mouth, is that actually a good idea? Will

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Speaker 2: that only make the situation worse and be a tragedy

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Well that's the dynamic, isn't it. I Mean, in

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Speaker 8: the first place, if he does nothing, your risk of

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Speaker 8: the industrialization If you then decide instead to intervene and

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Speaker 8: effectively what it might be seen as work will be

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Speaker 8: competitive markets, yet accused of being heavy handed and stepping

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Speaker 8: that's the dream I've got at the moment to try

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Speaker 2: And there's no sign of any gas on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: So how many businesses are at risk of collapse due

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Speaker 8: At, It's difficult to say, you know, roughly, roughly about

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Speaker 8: Clearly a number of them have been successful in acquiring

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Speaker 2: Right, lenin all the best going forward. Lehn Hower's is

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Speaker 2: either in terms of wanting a good poll because they

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Speaker 2: want that economy to fly, but it doesn't fly when

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Speaker 2: texts through that said, morning, Andrew, why don't you bring

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Speaker 2: the economic terrorist, Chloe Swarbrick onto your program to talk

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Speaker 2: about the gas crisis. The Greens and the labor need

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Speaker 2: to be held accountable for this and accountable to the businesses.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your text, Clive. The number is ninety

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Speaker 2: By the way, US President Donald Trump has said he

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Speaker 2: wants to try and get some territory back for Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: He's meeting with Vladimir Putin on Friday, and he's come

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Speaker 2: Russia's occupied a big portion of Ukraine, some prime territory.

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Speaker 2: We're going to try and get some of that territory

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Speaker 2: back for Ukraine. The talks are in Alaska, Alaska. It

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Speaker 2: will be a feel out meeting aimed at urging Putin

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Speaker 2: and changes in land happens on Friday. We'll keep you

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Speaker 2: up today. This is News Talks. B Queenstown's on fire,

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Speaker 2: Be well it's fire twenty one and yes we're in

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Speaker 2: there's still one spot breaking in the cash that is Queenstown.

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Speaker 2: Their top spots are back in top form, with tourism

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Speaker 3: Are you, Glenn?

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Speaker 6: Very happy? Injury yourself?

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Speaker 2: I'm very good. I'm very good. But yeah, Queenstown does

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Speaker 6: Oh look, I think we did pretty well last winter.

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Speaker 2: All right, our tourists heading to New Zealand just for

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Speaker 6: I'm hoping they go to other places. But yeah, it

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Speaker 6: Oh it was a range of visitors, but look, we

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Speaker 2: Good luck and congratulations and have you a good winter season.

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Speaker 2: is five twenty four. It's News Talks ZB. What are

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Speaker 2: we all talking about at the moment? The state of Palestine.

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Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 4: How it by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks b it is five twenty six.

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Speaker 2: So the big question facing us today is where the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand should join other nations and recognizing a Palestinian state, now,

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Speaker 2: this is a much bigger question than it seems. For

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Speaker 3: A state can.

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Speaker 2: Easily be confused with a nation, which is a group

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Speaker 2: where the rubber really hits the road. It is hard

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Speaker 2: for it to belong. In Declaring a Palestinian state right

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Speaker 2: now though, would therefore be a piece of global virtue,

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine after my initial comments, Andrew, well done for

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Speaker 2: Mikey Sherman is a gutter trash reporter who should disappear

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Speaker 2: text through Andrew, How the hell do you spend when

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Speaker 2: the purse is empty? That is true, but at the

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Speaker 2: The government fighting wasteful spending, not all spending. And the

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Speaker 2: we've cut all spending and that's why we were at

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Speaker 2: we're at these talks at me still to come, the

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Speaker 4: I rely.

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Speaker 4: Where you live, News talks at.

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Speaker 11: Me, no.

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Speaker 2: What it breaks off and as white as love to

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Speaker 2: and the reason is mister Paul Street. You may not

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Speaker 2: you goodbye. Twenty two to six news talk Zibby around

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Speaker 3: I'm Proctor.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, morning Andrew. So the influenza pandemic

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Speaker 12: Yeah it is, and this is a first of its

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Speaker 12: a deadly flu pandemic in nineteen eighteen across New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: And have you had your flu shot? I can't say

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Speaker 2: Good luck to you and I thank you. Claire Sure it,

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Speaker 2: had your flu shot? I have indeed so christ Jur's

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Speaker 2: new stadium. My goodness, the hype is building.

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Speaker 13: The hype is building and the exciting thing after yesterday's

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Speaker 2: I heard Jamia getting a bit bulshy about it all,

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Speaker 2: Out of Wellington. We're joined by Lachlan Ready how a

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Speaker 2: lochlom Morning Andrew So, a Wellington public servant, want's Victoria

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Speaker 14: Gordon Wilson Flats on the Terrace will be stripped of

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Speaker 14: its heritage status and demolished. The university owns the flats

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Speaker 14: and plans to put in student accommodation blocks. However, Public

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Speaker 14: Service Manager Jane o' lachlan is challenging it to halt

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Speaker 14: the demolition until it publicly fronts with a plan in

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Speaker 14: the finances of a new project. She wants reassurance from

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Speaker 14: the community will get a replacement building that's actually better

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Speaker 14: than the status.

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Speaker 3: Quoe.

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Speaker 2: How's your weather?

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Speaker 14: It's cloudy periods with a few suspicious little clouds there

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Speaker 14: with some few showers, expectors and fresh chevalries today with

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Speaker 14: the high of nine degrees.

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Speaker 2: And I thank you for your time today. And we're

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Speaker 2: joined now by Neva read tomno out of book on

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Speaker 2: Helen Getings. Okay, we've got an Orcha Merril candidate getting abused.

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Speaker 11: Yes, now, this is Curent Leoni. Now she said she

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Speaker 11: was abused by a member of the public. This is

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Speaker 11: while she was putting up her signage and her campaign

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Speaker 11: team had to report it to police. She says the

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Speaker 11: abuse had been while she was putting up the holdings.

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Speaker 11: This was in South Auckland. While not going into detail,

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Speaker 11: she says the incident was not racist. She sees Since then,

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Speaker 11: she's decided obviously not to advertise her candidacy on her vehicle.

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Speaker 11: Now we know that, you know, Leone's decision follows that

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Speaker 11: of colleague. I think do you'll remember this, Andrew, that

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Speaker 11: counselor Josephine Bartley who last week she did the same.

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Speaker 11: She stripped her signage off a vehicle. You know, she

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Speaker 11: said on Facebook. You know it sucks.

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Speaker 2: Safety first though, absolutely.

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Speaker 11: How's the weather, Okay, mainly find apart from a morning

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Speaker 11: frost and sheltered places cool and Crisp fifteen is the

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Speaker 11: high here in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: So the big story today is a Palestinian question. Should

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Speaker 2: we as a state, as a nation, as a nation state,

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Speaker 2: indeed recognize a Palestinian state. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: this in a few moments time with our Australian correspondent

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Speaker 2: because they've gone full more, they've jumped in both feet

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Speaker 2: and we've also got an expert on this on international

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Speaker 2: geopolitics just before the news at six. So your text,

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Speaker 2: Linda says no to a Palestinian state, it will not work.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand just following the un herd that hurts, not

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Speaker 2: very big, it's at this stage. But do we want

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Speaker 2: New Zealand to lead the way many do? Another asked

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Speaker 2: the question, is Winston Peter's the one in cabinet holding

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Speaker 2: up New Zealand's decision because he's the one who's always

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Speaker 2: on Donald Trump's side. Well, at the same time, Winston

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Speaker 2: is the one who actually knows how to measure the

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Speaker 2: weight of words in these sorts of international politics. And

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Speaker 2: so I would say he's cautious, and there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with an abundance of caution at the right time. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: more on this next with our Australian correspondent, and just

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Speaker 2: before six. It is seventeen to.

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Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's now fourteen minutes to six. So the Palestinian question,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you Australia has jumped in. They have

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Speaker 2: formally recognized Palestine.

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Speaker 5: A two stage solution is humanity's best hope to break

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Speaker 5: the cycle of violence in the Middle East and to

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Speaker 5: bring an end to the conflict, suffering and starvation in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Now that's a funny old clip bread because a two

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Speaker 2: state solution, I know it depends on it needs a state,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time it's a subtle way of

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Speaker 2: saying they should be declared a state. So where are

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Speaker 2: we are in Australia and what's the reaction to that

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Speaker 2: so far. I'm joined now by our Australian correspondent, Leslie Yeoman,

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Speaker 2: So Leslie morning, Andrew.

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Speaker 14: Yes.

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Speaker 15: Well, to be honest, Labor has supported a two state

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Speaker 15: solution for some time, but now that it's in the

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Speaker 15: federal government, it hasn't really been eager to commit to

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Speaker 15: a timeline on that. Recognition, but Prime Minister Albanezi has

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Speaker 15: now set that timeline and that's a first now following

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Speaker 15: talks with a number of countries, including New Zealand and Japan,

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Speaker 15: the timeline will now see Australia MAKIX recognition formal at

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Speaker 15: the September meeting of the UN General Assembly in New York.

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Speaker 15: Now it comes after a number of things have happened,

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Speaker 15: because people sort of saying well, why now, Well, it

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Speaker 15: comes after France, the UK and Canada announced it they'd

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Speaker 15: also recognized Palestine. They announced that just a little while ago.

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Speaker 15: It also comes after some pretty large protests across the

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Speaker 15: country and the court of public opinion can have an

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Speaker 15: effect on some issues like this. The biggest of those

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Speaker 15: protests was in Sydney last week where up to one

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Speaker 15: hundred thousand people marched across the Harbor Bridge, and those

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Speaker 15: protesters were urging the government to sanction Israel for its

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Speaker 15: actions in Gaza, where are thousands of people have been

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Speaker 15: killed and people there are still starving. So there are

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Speaker 15: a number of reasons why it's sort of happened now

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Speaker 15: and we'll sort of see what happens at the UN

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Speaker 15: General Assembly in New York next month.

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Speaker 4: Has it been.

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Speaker 2: Generally well received or is there descends? Is it divisit the.

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Speaker 15: Well received to a degree, but there have been many

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Speaker 15: comments saying it's too little, too late, and well it

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Speaker 15: really make any difference anywhere anyway. The federal opposition here

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Speaker 15: has not been complimentary of it, saying that it's just

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Speaker 15: basically playing into Hammers's hands over there. But a lot

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Speaker 15: of people are just saying it's just too little, too

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Speaker 15: late and it's not going to make any difference.

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Speaker 2: Now. How exciting On Sunday in Victoria when a metea

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Speaker 2: streaked across the sky. There's fireballs and people's houses got rattled.

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Speaker 15: Did they ever? And now the hunt is on to

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Speaker 15: try and find fragments of that meteorite as it came

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Speaker 15: crashing down. Yea, it happened in country Victoria, somewhere people

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Speaker 15: think between Bendigo and Ballarat. Now, no one's been able

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Speaker 15: to find it as yet or if there are any fragments,

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Speaker 15: if anything, has sort of lasted as it crashed to earth.

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Speaker 15: But people sort of reported that they heard a huge

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Speaker 15: explosion which shook their homes and they were saying that

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Speaker 15: there was a flaming ball of lights streaking across sky

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Speaker 15: with a sort of a flaming tale at the end

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Speaker 15: of it. Some even thought it was an earthquake. It

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Speaker 15: was so loud and such a huge sonic boom that

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Speaker 15: they thought that it was an earthquake rattling their homes.

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Speaker 15: It was also seen as far away as in Melbourne

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Speaker 15: and heard in Melbourne and as far as west as

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Speaker 15: warning Ball in western Victoria. So quite amazing.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, no, thank you so much. And you can just

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Speaker 2: imagine the Australian accident saying, oh, there's a flaming ball

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Speaker 2: of light, mate.

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Speaker 4: It is ten to six news talk said be.

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Speaker 2: So Australia says they're going to recognize Palestine in September.

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Speaker 2: We're weighing up our position and there'll be a month

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Speaker 2: where we talk about this amongst the cabinet. This comes

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Speaker 2: after Australia back to two state solution at the UN

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Speaker 2: joining the UK, Frances and Canada. We've always back to

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Speaker 2: two state solution, but there's a difference when you actually

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Speaker 2: declared that Palestine a Palestine state, you recognize the Palestine state.

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Speaker 2: So to talk about the nuance of all of this,

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Speaker 2: John Battersby, who is a massive university, he's at the

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Speaker 2: massive University Center for Defense and Security Studies One.

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Speaker 10: It's your John, good morning.

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Speaker 2: So what is this? Is this virtue signaling? Is this

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Speaker 2: just a symbolic gesture or does it have a real power.

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Speaker 10: I think it is largely a symbolic gesture and it's

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Speaker 10: brought on, obviously by what your previous speaker was talking about,

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Speaker 10: the horrendous consequences that are that are being felt in

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Speaker 10: Gaza as a result of the Israeli response to the

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Speaker 10: October twenty twenty three event. And I think the the

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Speaker 10: vast feeling of public opinion in several countries is something

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Speaker 10: needs to be done to try and pull the Israeli

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Speaker 10: action back. There's internal dissent in Israel itself over the

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Speaker 10: effect of it. So any move really in this direction

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Speaker 10: may be able to temper. So I think while it

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Speaker 10: is somewhat symbolic in terms of recognizing a state that

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Speaker 10: problems in the air, there is an effect that may have.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, it's pressure on as well as pressure on us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how big is this moved from Australia to

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Speaker 2: do this, to declare this now? And will our government

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Speaker 2: now be feeling the pressure to join the herd?

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Speaker 10: I think there'll be a general Yeah, there'll be a

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Speaker 10: general pressure up here, pressure of other states. A number

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Speaker 10: of other states already recognized under and forty seven. I

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Speaker 10: think you have already done so, so there'll be we'll

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Speaker 10: probably have to justify why we don't. I think would

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Speaker 10: be the would be the case. Well, the problem is, though,

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Speaker 10: I think that it's probably recognizing it for the wrong reason.

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Speaker 10: It's recognizing it as a counter to Israeli action, rather

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Speaker 10: than recognizing the integrity of a Palestinian state itself.

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Speaker 2: A state which is divined with territory and people and

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Speaker 2: governance and law and authority, because it's not just oh

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Speaker 2: it's a state. There's a whole lot before you can

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Speaker 2: become a state.

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Speaker 6: Isn't it.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's right, and it's it's divided between the we

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Speaker 10: spank and guards or the big chunk of Israel, than

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Speaker 10: between and Gaza is heavily contested between Hamas and in Israel,

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Speaker 10: and Hamas is an autocratic organization. There's no friend of democracy.

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Speaker 10: A number of Arab states don't support it, so you'll

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Speaker 10: there's some big questions around this.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, is there any downside?

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Speaker 10: Is there a downside to recognizing possibly in the future,

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Speaker 10: but governments tend to act in the moment, and the

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Speaker 10: key crisis at the moment is the perceived overreaction of

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Speaker 10: Israel and the ditrimental effects it's having on the people

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Speaker 10: of Gaza, and that's probably the most urgent thing that

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Speaker 10: needs to be done. So yeah, probably the downside that

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Speaker 10: it's probably down the road.

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Speaker 2: John Battersby, I thank you so much from the Massive

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Speaker 2: University Center for Defense and Security Studies. It is seven

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Speaker 2: minutes to six.

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 1: edition with Adre Dickins and one Route Love where you

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Speaker 1: Live News talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be so I paid tribute to Paul Stretxter, the

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Speaker 2: sound engineer and the person who trained sound engineers for

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Speaker 2: decades have passed away over the weekend, and Grahams written

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Speaker 2: that during the seventies and eighties we have fantastic people

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Speaker 2: involved in New Zealand music port obviously one of them.

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Speaker 2: It's the best time for the KEII sound. Yes it was.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you're somewhere near Saint Peter's

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Speaker 2: Village Hall and Paika Kariki tomorrow one that's when his

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Speaker 2: celebration of his life is going to happen, and you'll

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Speaker 2: see an awful lot of very famous New Zealanders around

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Speaker 2: there speaking. Which is one mate? Now, Mike Ello, good morning.

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Speaker 2: The Palestinian question, the it's a weird thing. Yesterday I

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Speaker 2: was watching the Prime Minister's press conference. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: it personally, I've never understood it.

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Speaker 3: So what happens? So you recognize Palestine, then what ye nothing?

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Speaker 2: To be a state, you need land and they don't

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Speaker 2: have any land. Guy just now just pointed that out.

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Speaker 2: There's there's between the West Bank and the Gards and

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Speaker 2: there's no land. There's no there's no authority. Har Mass

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Speaker 2: has been discredited, the Palestine authority.

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Speaker 3: It's just the weirdest thing. It's just like I was

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Speaker 3: watching the question. It's like they went into some sort

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Speaker 3: of crazed fizz that we were going to say something,

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Speaker 3: and of course we didn't even say anything. We might

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Speaker 3: say something, maybe we won't, Maybe Australia will, maybe there

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Speaker 3: won Who cares? What difference does it make? Well?

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Speaker 2: Would I say this morning? Will it put any food

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Speaker 2: in a palace and belly?

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Speaker 3: There's a hundred you realize, one hundred and fifty ish

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Speaker 3: countries who already recognize Palestine. What's that done for them?

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Speaker 2: And we've already said, oh, we believe in a two

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Speaker 2: states solution, but that doesn't mean to clear its state.

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Speaker 2: But what's it means?

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Speaker 3: It means nothing, absolutely nothing. I don't know why the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister doesn't say that. I mean, you probably can't

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Speaker 3: afford to politically. Anyway, we'll we'll touch as briefly on

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Speaker 3: that as we possibly can. Good news on tourism, bad

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Speaker 3: news on tourism. So two separate stories on that. Laney

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Speaker 3: Wilson no country music.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, she's coming.

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Speaker 3: She's coming, and so we'll talk to her. She's a

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Speaker 3: big deal. She's like a seriously big deal.

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Speaker 2: I defer to you, I'm not a country guy.

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Speaker 3: No, she's she's like right up there. She'd be as

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Speaker 3: certainly the biggest female name in country music and like

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Speaker 3: Luke Holmb's esque in terms of success and size, audience

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Anyway, she's coming here for the

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Speaker 3: first time to hear this moment.

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Speaker 2: Madame er Dickons, thank you if your company, have a

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Speaker 2: great day.

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