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Speaker 2: Head, be bony and welcome today the new Rama replacement idea.

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Speaker 2: And if we've built something every time they change the rules,

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Speaker 2: would we have built a city by now? A New

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Speaker 2: thing Tuesday Catherines and France. Rodd Is in the UK

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Speaker 2: asking right, oh seven pas SX, I tell you what.

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Speaker 2: I find myself conflicted again over the banks. Now the

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Speaker 2: government is after the banks, says I'm sure you're well aware.

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Speaker 2: The banks keep turning up at select committees and going

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Speaker 2: what us what. There's a lack of competition apparently, except

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Speaker 2: is there twenty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars they're handing

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Speaker 2: them twenty thousand dollars, why so you leave your current

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Speaker 2: bank and shift teams. That's called competition. The twenty k

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Speaker 2: by the way is up to and has generally worked

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Speaker 2: as a percentage of what you borrow. You would need

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Speaker 2: Then last week we were told that the churn is

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Speaker 2: now high. People are moving, they are hustling, they're going

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Speaker 2: to where the deals are. The days of complacency apparently

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Speaker 2: are over. Then we come to the interest rates. The

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Speaker 2: smaller players, the Kei Wei banks, the sbss are leading

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Speaker 2: So is that competition, which is not to say we

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Speaker 2: wouldn't like more competition. But this is a country of

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Speaker 2: five million people, for goodness sake, not twenty seven million

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Speaker 2: like Australia. The margins I often go on about that

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Speaker 2: argue that's because of the Reserve Bank and their compliance costs.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Easy fixible to thought. Appoint the right governor of the

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Speaker 2: Central Bank and let Nichola Willis loose on the rules,

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Speaker 2: set them the way you want and that should be that,

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Speaker 2: shouldn't it get rid of the OREE anchor around compliance

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Speaker 2: costs and margins, so that should all balance up, shouldn't it?

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Speaker 2: Or will they see? Is my suspicion right that the

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Speaker 2: truth is in fact, banks are fantastically profitable here because

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Speaker 2: despite what I've just argued, there isn't enough churn, there

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Speaker 2: aren't enough small players, and twenty grand doesn't really move

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Speaker 2: the market. My trouble is I can't actually work that out,

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Speaker 2: to me like a half decent market, not perfect, but

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Speaker 2: half decent. The Commerce Commission doesn't agree, and neither do

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Speaker 2: the government. So the big question I suppose is what

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Speaker 2: are they actually going to do about it? Not talk,

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Speaker 2: not threaten, not announcements. If they are right and I

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Speaker 2: am wrong, what are they actually going to do about it?

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Speaker 4: And win.

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Speaker 2: News of the world. In ninety second, Bird one busy

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Speaker 2: in Turkey rounding them up.

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Speaker 5: He says the Oppositions show will eventually end and they

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Speaker 5: will feel shame for the evil that they have done.

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Speaker 2: There are plenty to round up as well.

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Speaker 6: If they feel like they took our democracy and we

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Speaker 6: are trying to take it back.

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Speaker 5: You want to freedom.

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Speaker 2: I want a good future.

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Speaker 7: For myself and for my friends.

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Speaker 2: We don't think that our votes count. If you want

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Speaker 2: an update on where the Russia Ukraine peace are at,

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Speaker 2: Trump's favorite go to man, Steve Woodcough. He's seeing the

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Speaker 2: sights and he has learned plenty.

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Speaker 8: Are these so called four regions Dunbar, Crimea, you know

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Speaker 2: They're Russian speaking, Yep. There have been referendums, geography a

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Speaker 2: plus in Britain, a couple of things. I thought Jamie

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Speaker 9: I don't recognize those claims that the government are looking

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Speaker 2: I think Jamie did the lunches, so Rachel's obviously doing

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Speaker 2: the scandal grows. The Transport secretary does what transport secretaries do.

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Speaker 10: We'll be looking very carefully at what that report says,

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Speaker 10: both about this particular incident and also any wider lessons

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is I've got a report from a

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Speaker 2: Andrew Tat who was in Romania. Then he went to Florida.

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Speaker 11: I think I'm investigated everywhere on the planet because I'm

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Speaker 11: one of the most important people on the planet. And

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Speaker 11: when you're one of the most important people on the planet,

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Speaker 11: every country in the world is interested in you. I

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Speaker 11: doesn't matter because I've done nothing wrong and I'm happy

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Speaker 2: Between him and Witkoff, you wonder why we're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Japan and tourism, it's on fire at the moment. Numbers

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Speaker 2: from January show three point seven million people visited in January.

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Speaker 2: climb Pluji, So the pre pictures have put in new

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Speaker 2: to climb. It started out as ten and it was voluntary.

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Speaker 2: You'll also have to take a class about hiking safety

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Speaker 2: that you took that information in Why because they've been well,

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Speaker 2: they've been flat out rescuing idiots who get stuck up

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Speaker 2: nineteen those arrests, by the way, in Turkey at the moment,

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Speaker 2: they're busy eleven hundred and thirty three over the past

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Speaker 2: five days and it ain't over yet. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Singapore. Inflation reads zero point nine consumer price and at

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Speaker 2: They got themselves under control. Yeah, the airport at Heathrow,

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Speaker 2: very good morning, Mike. On the broad thing that very

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Speaker 12: Well it did, yes, in a way.

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Speaker 13: It was one of the problem stocks of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 13: They released their results yesterday for the half ussin lay milk.

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Speaker 13: Twenty twenty three, the share price was over three dollars fifty.

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Speaker 13: They built a big plant in Pocono, they had a

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Speaker 13: twenty four the share price is set around forty cent mark.

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Speaker 12: But as you say, yes, it's back in profitability now.

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Speaker 13: Just revenues up sixteen percent to nine hundred and seventeen million,

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Speaker 13: Since stark contrast to the same period last year, when

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Speaker 12: It came in at sixty three point one, which is good.

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Speaker 13: Look there's One of a number of issues was the

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Speaker 13: They've litt an incentive to their supplies and importantly most

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Speaker 13: The auditors have continued to comment that there is material

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Speaker 13: but the balance sheet has been recapitalized, their debt levels alike.

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Speaker 12: That's all good. Share prices did take a bit of

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Speaker 13: It went from a dollar and one down to ninety cents,

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Speaker 2: a budget day in Australia, apart from anything else, these

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Speaker 12: So last week we had our local reads on services

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Speaker 13: health just quickly Australia they looked pretty good. Yeah, Manufacturing

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Speaker 13: But the market said, we'll just look at that. UK

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Speaker 12: And actually the share markets are all looking very positive

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Speaker 12: this morning. So people just want to look at the

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Speaker 12: good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Mike, youep, nothing wrong with that byd seventy three percent

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Speaker 2: and a lot of profit. It's they've seemingly when you

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Speaker 2: compare them to Tesla and they've come from nowhere, haven't

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Speaker 2: they kind of cracked it?

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Speaker 12: Really, haven't they.

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Speaker 14: We talked about it last week.

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Speaker 13: A four hundred climeter of charge in five minutes. That

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Speaker 13: was their game changing technology. Chinese manufacturer BVS. Their sales

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Speaker 13: revenue in twenty twenty four MIC over one hundred billion.

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Speaker 13: They have overtaken Tesla. So they sold four point two

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Speaker 13: so their sales are going up high probolic. But Tesla

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Speaker 13: shares are falling. But you might have seen overnight TESSAs

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Speaker 13: share price has bounced. It's bounced about ten percent overnight.

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Speaker 2: Then we come to Greenland, so that's all getting heated

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Speaker 15: We need Greenland because of national security, international security, world security,

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Speaker 16: We're going to get it.

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Speaker 17: Then JD chipton Denmark, which controls Greenland, it's not doing

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Speaker 2: This morning's news, JD's missus is heading there this Friday.

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Speaker 19: Hello, I'm so excited to share that I'll be visiting

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Speaker 19: kala Letna, Greenland next weekend. I'm particularly thrilled to visit

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Speaker 19: during your national dog sled race, which our country is

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Speaker 19: proud to sincory as a sponsor.

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Speaker 18: I've been reading all about it.

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Speaker 19: I'm also coming to celebrate the long history of mutual

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Speaker 2: Now, the problem was she announced that but also going

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Speaker 2: might have problems beef. You know my fascination with beef

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Speaker 2: in Australia and potential teriffs with the US. What's our

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Speaker 2: We'll get the details for you next.

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Speaker 2: Dead be sad. Another cabinet meeting will get to the

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Speaker 2: potential teriffs for this country in just a couple of moments.

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Speaker 2: But another potential cabinet meeting underway. Yesk musters there and

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Speaker 2: I'll get to him in a moment. But Trump's will

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Speaker 2: bullish on the tariffs.

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Speaker 15: This morning, you gave billions of dollars to companies that

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Speaker 12: Want to come back.

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Speaker 18: That's why they're coming back.

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Speaker 15: I think they're coming back because of the election that

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Speaker 2: You also announced this morning that anyone who does business

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Speaker 20: Their cay s approught was with this more Bosinis administration

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Speaker 20: That's a very precocious baby you were talking about.

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Speaker 2: Here's what should Arnold suggested yesterday. That's probably not truly,

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Speaker 2: but they won't stop them meantime. Back here, so well

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Speaker 2: any of this beef and land New Zealand check Alans, Well,

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Speaker 2: there's Kate, very good morning to you. Do you got

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Speaker 2: any idea what's going on? Any more than anybody else

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Speaker 21: Oh, look, it's still very much too will even know

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Speaker 21: what we do know? I think, except the New Zealand

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Speaker 21: US trade relationships actually really well balanced overall. And you know,

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Speaker 21: in terms of agricultural trade, yes, we do send a

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Speaker 21: but New Zealand farmers actually buy a lot of American

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Speaker 3: So we have got really.

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Speaker 21: Strong relationships with the US and probably quite different to the.

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Speaker 2: Australian Okay, so the Australians are part of the Americans.

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Speaker 2: Argument about the Australians is they don't want to and

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Speaker 21: No, Look, they are really concerned about what they call

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Speaker 21: unfair trading practices, and Zealand plades with a really straight back.

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Speaker 21: So there's no trade restrictions on American beef and lamb

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Speaker 21: coming into New Zealand. Our farmer's aren't subsidized, our exports

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Speaker 2: Right, we export one point according to the numbers, I've

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Speaker 2: we're booming and we're doing well. Congratulations to us, But

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Speaker 2: we only bring in thirty one million. Do we bring

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Speaker 21: We're an exporting nation and we're exporting ninety percent of

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Speaker 21: So you know, that's only natural that we're not importing

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Speaker 2: Would they see it that way. So if the American

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Speaker 2: going to go Actually, those numbers don't look right. We'll

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Speaker 21: They actually need our imports. I was over last month

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Speaker 21: and the conversations were there were very much they view

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Speaker 21: we're actually good for the American farmer. So I think

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Speaker 21: you know what's really clear is that New Zealand is

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Speaker 21: then it is pretty likely that we could be collateral damage. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll wait and see what happens. Kate appreciate

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Speaker 2: Lamb New Zealand Chair with us this morning, nineteen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven tasking. I thought we'd dealt with this clearly.

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Speaker 2: Not so the cost of building just generation homes. Yesterday.

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Speaker 2: price is going up as long as they're with inflation,

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Speaker 2: Minister in an hour's time eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: A little bit of this this morning.

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Speaker 1: Mic.

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Speaker 2: Very happy for the all whites, but it wouldn't get

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Speaker 2: ahead of myself. Reality is that most of our team

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Speaker 2: playing second and third division of European leagues, and there's

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Speaker 2: a huge gap which we don't realize. Playing Fiji, well,

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Speaker 2: I think we do realize. I think that when we

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Speaker 2: take on Fiji in New Caledonia we realize one we're

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Speaker 2: going to beat them, and two that'll get us to

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Speaker 2: the World Cup. But there is a sort of a

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Speaker 2: frisson around this business that we've made it to the

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Speaker 2: World Cup that I can't quite get my head around.

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Speaker 2: Making the World Cup shouldn't be a big deal because

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Speaker 2: they've expanded entry. In other words, entry has never been easier.

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Speaker 2: And then once we get there, we get excited about

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Speaker 2: not doing very well, which as far as I know,

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Speaker 2: is the only sport in this country for a sporting

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Speaker 2: nation that we get excited about not doing very well.

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Speaker 7: Normally excited about you one, at the moment, aren't we

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Speaker 7: Well yeah.

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Speaker 2: But we were, but not as excited as we were.

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Speaker 2: But I'm thinking that we unless we come first, second

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Speaker 2: or third, which we're not, that's our normal expectation. But

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we just just being there apparently

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Speaker 2: is all we need to get fizzed up six forty.

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Speaker 22: Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance feace of

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Speaker 22: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: If you've flinging this one.

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Speaker 18: I was looking at the Times.

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Speaker 2: I see they've reached America. Now that's the Linam Lawson

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Speaker 2: stories are being covered by Fox. I mean it's a

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Speaker 2: global story at the moment, I work you through some

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Speaker 2: of those numbers in a moment meantime, Catherine, how are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm fine, Thank you mate.

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Speaker 2: Now look, I'll get to Dierard in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments' court appearance. Let me ask you a couple

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Speaker 2: of things about Turkey. First of all, and this includes

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Speaker 2: X and all of that sort of stuff. Where does

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Speaker 2: Europe think Turkey's going? Are we deeply worried about this?

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Speaker 2: Or is this just more d one being at one

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Speaker 2: deeply worried?

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Speaker 5: Really? What what has been said, particularly in Brussels where

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Speaker 5: foreign affairs ministers met regularly, and then that just the

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Speaker 5: last few hours, is that Edigan has seen how much

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Speaker 5: back inside the tent that Putin has got that now

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Speaker 5: is the time it's good to be a good time

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Speaker 5: to if you like to be a sort of a

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Speaker 5: dictator to push aside would be successes. So yeah, it

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Speaker 5: is concerning. Let's not forget Turkey as a member of NATO,

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Speaker 5: the European Union spends a lot of time and a

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Speaker 5: lot of money trying to keep Turkey on side. And

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Speaker 5: for something which they consider to be so illegitimate, such

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Speaker 5: as putting a political opponent in prison and taking away

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Speaker 5: his ability to be able to contest an election, they

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Speaker 5: consider that is beyond the payals. So you're not just

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Speaker 5: closing down social media size making it difficult fever to

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Speaker 5: communicate with one another. But the fact that this basic

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Speaker 5: fundamental democratic writer is being taken away by an opponent

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Speaker 5: does worry them, and it really is for them a

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Speaker 5: sign that you're Edigan has really got the win that

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Speaker 5: sails after seeing Putin be almost rehabilitated in some parts

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Speaker 5: of the world.

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Speaker 2: And that's before we get to Musk, who's been suspending

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Speaker 2: a number of accounts. Does the view of Musk in

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Speaker 2: Europe change dramatically now that he's not just expertise Donald's mte.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean everyone is still if you like my

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Speaker 5: recovering and I don't even think actually they're recovering that

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Speaker 5: well from that speech that vice President Vance made in February.

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Speaker 5: Remember that Munich speech where he accused the EU regulators

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Speaker 5: of being afraid of free speech and forcing content moderation policies.

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Speaker 5: So when it comes to things like Musk and ex

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Speaker 5: Twitter as that it used to be known as, they

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Speaker 5: really do take a close look at this because, as

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Speaker 5: they rightly say, there has been a big information war.

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Speaker 5: The Russia has been using social media networks to sort

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Speaker 5: of undermine institutions, and that's why you've had remarks such

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Speaker 5: as in the last few hours Romania, the social media

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Speaker 5: regulator there, has said, look, you know, it's not just

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Speaker 5: against Musk, it's against an information more. It's bigger than Musk,

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Speaker 5: but he is part of it, and he's the most

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Speaker 5: obvious part of it. We've had just in the last

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Speaker 5: couple of hours the Belgian Foreign Minister, a big voice

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Speaker 5: in the European Union, saying, look, this just cannot go on.

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Speaker 5: We've already got Musk facing what is that three charges

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Speaker 5: against the EU for digital services, saying that they should

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Speaker 5: be hitting them more. The Belgian FOREGA minister says that

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Speaker 5: big Tach is the best option for the European Union

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Speaker 5: to get back at Trump, to get back at musk

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Speaker 5: to try and make them, as they say, treat European market,

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Speaker 5: which is four hundred and fifty million people, to treat

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Speaker 5: them differently than they have done so far.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, Jira Depadiu Fried Green Tomato is not a

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Speaker 2: bad movie, it seems to me. Yet again, it's been

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Speaker 2: coming for ages. This court case. Is he there? How

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Speaker 2: long is it going to take and what happens?

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, it opened just a few hours ago. He

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Speaker 5: turned up wearing a black suit, no tie. He came

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Speaker 5: into court a company by his lawyer. He will only

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Speaker 5: have to be in caught for six maximum six hours

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Speaker 5: every day. His doctors have said that's all he's able

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Speaker 5: to sit through because of his diabetes and last year,

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Speaker 5: of course, he had that quadruple bypass surgery. His lawyer

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Speaker 5: says that the allegations against him are false, part of

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Speaker 5: a campaign of slander. Of course, Depadu faces two cases

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Speaker 5: in this particular court, two allegations of sexual assault by

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Speaker 5: two separate women. This happened during the filming of Green

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Speaker 5: Shutters back in twenty twenty one. But of course it's

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Speaker 5: much bigger than that, because it has always been the

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Speaker 5: allegation that the French cinema industry has protected people like

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Speaker 5: Depardieu from the Me Too movement, has covered up, has

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Speaker 5: said that it's all part of being an artist, being

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Speaker 5: an actor, of being a celebrity in France, and that

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Speaker 5: he was just so much of a just this giant

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Speaker 5: of French cinema that the courts, despite having had these

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Speaker 5: allegations come to them before prosecutors putting them forward, that

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Speaker 5: they've shied away from it. And that's why you also

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Speaker 5: today outside the court here in Paris, you saw so

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Speaker 5: many people coming out and demonstrating in support of those

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Speaker 5: who have come forward, those two women, saying that more

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Speaker 5: needs to be done by the film industry to police itself,

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Speaker 5: because then any film set, you've got so many witnesses,

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Speaker 5: so many people see this, that they're all too scared

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Speaker 5: to come forward.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure. Catherine seen ext Tuesday, Catherine Field in

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Speaker 2: France at nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news.

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Speaker 2: Talk, z'd be Heathrows. Fascinating because we'll talk to a

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Speaker 2: rod about it later. But they will warned a decade

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Speaker 2: ago about what happened over the weekend would happen. So

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Speaker 2: Thomas Walby, who runs Heathrow these days, goes, I'm personally

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Speaker 2: quite proud of how quickly the airport responded to the

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Speaker 2: power outage. This situation was not created a teeth throw,

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Speaker 2: It was created outside the airport and we had to

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Speaker 2: deal all the consequences. Go back a decade to the

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Speaker 2: Jacob's report entitled Operational Risk Ground Infrastructure Heathrow Airport. It said,

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Speaker 2: quote beyond the management of supplying grid services which lie

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Speaker 2: outside the airport's control, the responsibility for managing electricity supply

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Speaker 2: risk lies with the airport and businesses operating from the airport. Whoops.

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Speaker 2: Outages could cause disruption to passengers, baggage and aircraft handling functions,

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Speaker 2: and could require closure of areas of affected terminals and

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Speaker 2: potentially in the entire airport. Even a brief interruption to

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Speaker 2: electricity supplies could have a long lasting impact on systems

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Speaker 2: and take much time to recover. That was ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Then three years ago, warnings were also raised about demand

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Speaker 2: out stripping supply at the substation supplying Heathrow. So it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like they hadn't had plenty of warnings and they

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Speaker 2: still did absolutely nothing about it. And so they'll do

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Speaker 2: another report in which will point out the obvious and

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Speaker 2: they will still end up doing nothing about it. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business tiber take your business from activity to the next.

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Speaker 2: Slide out What are we doing for Easter booking dot

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Speaker 2: com this morning? Domestically internationally, domestically, where are we going?

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Speaker 2: Where we going? We'll go ten through one Napier tenth

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Speaker 2: New Plymouth, Hamna Springs, I Love Hamna Springs, Towering and Wellington,

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Speaker 2: Tawerpo christ you to ride a rua Auckland and Queenstown.

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Speaker 2: Queenstown's always number one. Search numbers are doubling and trebling,

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Speaker 2: So I mean a search is not a booking, but

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Speaker 2: you would have to say that a lot of people

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Speaker 2: are looking. So Easter could be big news for the

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Speaker 2: tourism sector internationally. Where do we want to go? Bangkok, Brisbane, Bali, Fiji, Singapore, RaRo, Melbourne, Tokyo,

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Speaker 2: Sydney and the Gold Coaster is the number one search

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Speaker 2: at the moment for the international travel if you're traveling

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Speaker 2: over the Easter period. They also collected data, interestingly from Australians. Now,

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Speaker 2: where are the Australians looking to go. Let me read

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Speaker 2: you ten through one and see if you can spot

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Speaker 2: a See if you can spot a theme here? Where

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Speaker 2: are the Australians looking to go?

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Speaker 18: Well?

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Speaker 2: Number ten is Bali or one place in Bali Osaka

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Speaker 2: Partong Beach in Thailand. They've been watching White Lotus, Ubert

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Speaker 2: and Bali so too. Bali actually chango in Bali. They

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Speaker 2: can't get enough Bali, semgnac Bali. They just love Ballei.

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Speaker 2: Oh my jeez, Mite, let's go to Bali. Where would

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Speaker 2: you like to go, Sharon? Bali? Fabulous? Where's not Bali? Tokyo,

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Speaker 2: Singapore and Queenstown. Queenstown's the only New Zealand destination that

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Speaker 2: Australians are looking for. What does that tell you about

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Speaker 2: my Je's not Balley?

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Speaker 21: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Hey? You can't compete with Barley? Now after seven o'clock?

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Speaker 2: What are we looking at this rama? Things? Should we

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Speaker 2: get excited about this? I mean, in theory it sounds exciting,

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Speaker 2: but I got excited when David Parker said, to tell

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Speaker 2: you what I'm going to reform the rama? Then he

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Speaker 2: produced an encyclopedia over nine hundred pages long that went nowhere.

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Speaker 2: So is anything actually going to happen this time around.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a look at this after the news which

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Speaker 2: is next here at News Talk.

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Speaker 1: SAT me the only report you need to start your

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Speaker 1: day on my casting breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate altogether

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Speaker 1: better across rest csidential, commercial and rural news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven? Has anything been changed? Talked about? Fought

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Speaker 2: over more than the Resource Management Act for goodness sake,

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Speaker 2: and now more change. We'll have new planning laws which

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Speaker 2: allegedly will come in well, it will overcome the culture

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Speaker 2: of no allegedly big claimers. Administrative and compliance costs will

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Speaker 2: be cut by forty five percent. Chair of the government's

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Speaker 2: RAMA Expert Advisory Group, Janette Campbell, is with us. Jeanette,

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Speaker 2: morning to.

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Speaker 3: You, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Are you guys still a thing? I thought you'd been

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Speaker 2: disbanded and sorted out? Or am I completely wrong on that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: We have delivered our report to the government and that's

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Speaker 6: the end of the main work of the EAG, but

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Speaker 6: some of us are staying on to help with the

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Speaker 6: next phase of the reforms.

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Speaker 2: Broadly speaking, are we heading in the right direction?

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Speaker 3: I think so? My report so yes, I think it

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Speaker 3: is headed it's in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: So I got excited over David Parker who said we

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Speaker 2: need to sort this out. This is a mess, and

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Speaker 2: he went and produced nine hundred plus pages of an encyclopedia.

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Speaker 2: Is this going to be any different?

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Speaker 3: Well, I absolutely hope.

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Speaker 6: So I too was excited about that reforms and I

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Speaker 6: think we have drawn on what happened there and one

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Speaker 6: of our key ambitions is to simplify matters.

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Speaker 2: Can you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot that can be done. We

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Speaker 6: looked at overseas examples, the Scottish and typical Tesciturn Scott's

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Speaker 6: fashion have got national policy which runs to a couple

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot that we can move from

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Speaker 3: from overseas.

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Speaker 2: So it is fair to suggest that the complexity of

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Speaker 2: the rules has weaponized what's going on. And I cite this.

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Speaker 2: I assume you're up with it. There's k road building

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Speaker 2: in Auckland that was turned down. The wind farm last

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Speaker 2: week was turned down under fast track in Southland. There

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Speaker 2: seems to be no end of ability for people to

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Speaker 2: hire lawyers and stall stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely fair criticism.

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Speaker 2: I and so how do you get around that? You're

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Speaker 2: just simply not allowed to stall stuff anymore. And if

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Speaker 2: you want to do something, you can do it. Can

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Speaker 2: you make it that simple, or does the pendulum and

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Speaker 2: then swing so far back the other way you end

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Speaker 2: up building monstrosities you later regret.

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Speaker 6: I think there's two parts, so that the first part

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Speaker 6: is about that k road building. Under our recommended system,

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Speaker 6: we're going to make use of nationally standardized zones, which

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Speaker 6: are set nationally with public input. I would imagine that

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Speaker 6: site would have a commercial zoning that would commit activities

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Speaker 6: like commercial buildings, So it would be very unlikely to

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Speaker 6: even need a consent in a case like that, so

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Speaker 6: there wouldn't be opportunity to weaponize the legislation and to

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Speaker 6: hold it up.

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Speaker 3: So that's the first thing. The second thing in terms.

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Speaker 6: Of the environment is our direction from the government was

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Speaker 6: really clear that we did need to protect environmental bottom lines,

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Speaker 6: and we've done that through the Environment Acts. So we

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Speaker 6: are hoping that we can walk that tension between development

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Speaker 6: and protecting what's really important to us as a country.

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Speaker 3: And we think we've done it. We've walked that line.

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Speaker 2: Hope you're right, Jeanette go well appreciated. Jeanette Campbell, RMA

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Speaker 2: Advisory Group Chair with the k Road building a verse

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Speaker 2: effects from building height and form new buildings to be

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Speaker 2: complementary to the existing and planned character of precincts. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what does that even mean complementary? Is that complementary? You

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Speaker 2: ask me? Yes, yes, Bob no. So I mean that's

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Speaker 2: the sort of nonsense you're dealing with. You don't know

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Speaker 2: what the building is. It doesn't matter. I'll broach it

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Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister later on, but it just seems

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Speaker 2: a lot of waffle and if you want to find

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Speaker 2: an excuse not to do something, you can. As for

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Speaker 2: the wind farm in Southland, I literally don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: Once again, I'll ask the Prime Minister under the fast

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Speaker 2: track and when I say fast track, the previous government's

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Speaker 2: fast track under the fast Track renewables wind Southland got

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Speaker 2: turned down. How's that possible? Eleven past seven PASKI super

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Speaker 2: depressing news around drugs. I'm here to tell your new

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Speaker 2: police annual wastewater drug testing ninety six percent spike in

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Speaker 2: meth seven hundred and thirty two kilos of the stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's gone to one point four tons last year. Massy

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Speaker 2: drug researcher Chris Wilkins is with us. Chris, very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Yep, good morning mite.

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Speaker 2: Different people, all the same people doing a lot more drugs.

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Speaker 16: Well, that's one of the big questions. I think it's

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Speaker 16: a little bit of both. But certainly the price has

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Speaker 16: gone down and their availability is higher, so to expect

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Speaker 16: your regular users are using more unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: And do we know if it's I've given up the

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Speaker 2: coke for the meth or the weed for the meth

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Speaker 2: or we don't know that either.

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Speaker 16: This is predominantly meth. So cocaine went down a little bit.

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Speaker 16: And this just represents the changes in the drug market

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Speaker 16: that we're seeing when we're moving from a local brick

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Speaker 16: and mortar store to a global online platform, and the

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Speaker 16: kind of changes people have seen in the retail world

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Speaker 16: and the legal economy that's coming to the drug market

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Speaker 16: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Unreal. And obviously this is wastewater, so we don't know

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Speaker 2: the minutia. But does it gangs? Do we know if

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Speaker 2: it's gangs mainly gangs.

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Speaker 16: Gangs for playing their part, But as I said, really

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Speaker 16: we're drug trafficking is now leveraging off the digital world.

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Speaker 16: So there's been changes in all the different levels of

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Speaker 16: the market from production all the way to retail where

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Speaker 16: they're leveraging of social media platforms. So it's a real

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Speaker 16: changing environment now and I think we've got to accept

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Speaker 16: that and start to reconceptualize what a drug market's about.

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Speaker 2: Are the police behind the eight ball on this, Are

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Speaker 2: they on top of this in an ee way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form or not.

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Speaker 16: Well, their job is to respond to the effects, so

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Speaker 16: things like greater wastewater, declining prices. But I think there's

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Speaker 16: a real challenge about distinguishing between effects and root causes

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Speaker 16: what's driving these changes, and that takes a bit more

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Speaker 16: of analysis about knowing how that market has changed, as

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Speaker 16: I said, changing from that bricks and water to this

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Speaker 16: digital platform and large scale industrial production, and that takes

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Speaker 16: a bit of analysis.

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Speaker 2: Are we a drug add old country? I mean, do

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Speaker 2: we compare ourselves to other countries in terms of tonnage

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Speaker 2: in the water?

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Speaker 16: Well, it depends on what rug we're talking about. So

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Speaker 16: if we're talking about are very much high up there.

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Speaker 16: But of course we have really low reel sort of

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Speaker 16: heroin use, which is a really great thing, and cocaine

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Speaker 16: is very low So it's a little bit of both

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Speaker 16: but I think we're in the eye of the storm

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Speaker 16: a little bit in the sense of that we're part

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Speaker 16: of a region that's now under a lot of competition

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Speaker 16: for drug manufacture, for meth and fedamin macufacture from Southeast

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Speaker 16: Asia and Central America. So there's a real price war

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Speaker 16: now going on in this the area of the world.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, Chris, appreciate it. Chris Wilkins, who is

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Speaker 2: a drug researcher at Massive University, world hopeful cerently thirteen

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven. You're a hypocrite, not that I support football,

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Speaker 2: but how can you criticize the all rights when you

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Speaker 2: wax lyrical about the Warriors. Well I can wax lyrical

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Speaker 2: about the Warriors because we've been to the final twice.

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Speaker 2: And yes we have poor years, but we've been to

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Speaker 2: the final twice. If you can cite me the particular

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Speaker 2: tournament at the World Cup we went to the final,

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Speaker 2: then go for it. But you know that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. Go get excited about it if you want

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Speaker 2: to get it inside about football, and we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: in a moment. Britaant go for it. But we seem

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Speaker 2: to get excited, we seem to give ourselves in a

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Speaker 2: completely different criteria when it comes to the World Cup,

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Speaker 2: because the World Cup's the biggest thing in the sport

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Speaker 2: world and the fact that we just get to turn

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Speaker 2: up seems to put us into this fizz. I've also

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Speaker 2: got a question round mevo and byd for you. In

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Speaker 2: a moment fourteen passed.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At b Mike over five years to get a resource

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Speaker 2: consent through for a second birth at Gisbane Port. Two

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Speaker 2: and a half years to get a car park consent

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Speaker 2: of for Gisbane Port. Thank you, Rob. I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any shortage of examples of how badly wrong this

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Speaker 2: whole thing has gone. Mike and January. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: build a replace a fifty year old aluminium window in

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Speaker 2: my villa with a wooden one. Auckland Council said I

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Speaker 2: needed to get a ten thousand dollars resource consent fee

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Speaker 2: with the consultant report. See I don't believe that. I

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Speaker 2: think that's not true, and yet it's so bizarre. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I do believe it. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: I followed the tower on the port with a great

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Speaker 2: deal of interest, and that's a joke. Beyond a joke.

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Speaker 2: That's the most successful port in the country. They want

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Speaker 2: to expand. Why do they want to expand so they

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Speaker 2: can do more business? Is doing more business for New Zealand? Good?

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Speaker 2: Yes it is, So why don't we do more business? Well,

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Speaker 2: because they've been held up in court after court after court.

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Speaker 2: It's been going on for years. It's just literally ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: The BYD and mebo thing yesterday. So I'm wondering downtown

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of me those around the place.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about. I'll come back to that. We're going

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Speaker 2: to do Andrew. Now, all right, we've had a problem

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Speaker 2: with Andrew pregnall of the football, but now we've got

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Speaker 2: it sorted. Andrew Pregnell is the boss of New Zealand Football. Andrew,

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Speaker 2: morning to you much, thanks for having me, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five thousand, Glenn and I were arguing off here

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Speaker 2: about there's twenty five thousands not a big crowd. Why

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Speaker 2: wasn't it sold out? Is football really that bigger? We

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Speaker 2: over fizzing ourselves on this or not.

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Speaker 23: We're definitely huge in terms of participation. Obviously the biggest

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Speaker 23: sport in the country by a fairly long mile. I

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Speaker 23: think there's a lot of things going on. Monday night

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Speaker 23: it's always a bit tough, but you know, to see

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Speaker 23: twenty plus thousand sharp and WELLINGDN forty five thousand across

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Speaker 23: the couple of days, the amount of content going on

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Speaker 23: and the atmosphere in the crowd last night phenomenal. So yeah,

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Speaker 23: look we're in a pretty heavy space.

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Speaker 2: Long as long as you please. As far as the

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Speaker 2: World Cup is concerned, what are you expecting to do?

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Speaker 2: Because the other thing is we get excited about draws.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to win? Are we going to win

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Speaker 2: something and do well and get out of the main round?

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Speaker 23: Look, I think this is the greatest group of talent

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Speaker 23: that we've seen in the mainspase for well, probably ever.

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Speaker 23: We've got four players signed the Premier league clubs. They're

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Speaker 23: all professionals paying around the world. Now, the expectations should

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Speaker 23: be high. We're certainly not going to participate, but yeah,

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Speaker 23: the script, there's the capability not only to win games

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Speaker 23: but get out of the group.

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Speaker 16: Key.

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Speaker 23: We should be very very excited.

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Speaker 2: And very proud of a scrip of young men. And

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Speaker 2: every time we go and I remember Lady two for

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Speaker 2: a start, and that was genuinely exciting. But every time

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Speaker 2: we go, does it parley into kids playing you know, balls,

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Speaker 2: getting kicked on streets and the whole thing.

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Speaker 23: Yes, yes, yes, I mean I think the participation side

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Speaker 23: is just anonymous, so I mean the having a quit

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Speaker 23: see here now, you know, with like a third day

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Speaker 23: league club. To be frank, the growth of the game

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Speaker 23: is sort of unstoppable, so I don't have a foreign effect.

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Speaker 23: I mean last night the kid's going crazy have a

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Speaker 23: Crestworad who is now a global headlines around the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 23: it's a phenomenal time for us.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Andrew and Joy appreciate it very much. Andrew pregnant.

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Speaker 2: As regards the crowds Auckland get the same number for

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Speaker 2: a regular league game. The Warriors get the same thing

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Speaker 2: Saturday and Saturday out was my only reason for the

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Speaker 2: question for a World Cup follow.

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Speaker 7: The Warriors get twenty five thousand people to turn up

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Speaker 7: on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: Night, easy and then some watch them. Any to name

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Speaker 2: a day name of stadium, I can give you twenty

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Speaker 2: three to twenty five seven.

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Speaker 2: and nine Pasking seventy twenty four. So June twenty twenty

892
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: six right, June twenty twenty six not far off. In fact,

893
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: it's next year, and next year's election year. Of course,

894
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: by that time, it has been reported this week the interest,

895
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: the interest bill on our national debt will be eleven

896
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: billion dollars. You see how this works. Not long ago

897
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: I was sitting here on this program, the warnings were

898
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: being issued that it might reach ten billion, ten and

899
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: at the time it was pointed out that that ten

900
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: is about two lots of the police budget, two times

901
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 2: the police, just an interest. Once we pay the ten billion,

902
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: our debt doesn't diminish. It's exactly the same. We've gone nowhere.

903
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: We've just kept the wolf from the debt door for

904
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: another twelve months. Well the ten has now gone. We're

905
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: heading towards eleven, two lots of police and another billion

906
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: dollars on top. Why because, as the Finance Minister is

907
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: pointing out and keeps warning, she is doing this, by

908
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: the way, because it's budget's getting closer but as she

909
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: keeps warning, the cost of borrowing is going up. Why

910
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: because we're a greater risk risky people who want money

911
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: have to pay a higher price. It's why credit card

912
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: debt is more expensive than mortgage money. The government sells bonds,

913
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: they ask for money in return, and they will give

914
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: you interest for you to give them the money. You

915
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: want a decent return, don't you, Yes, you do. Last

916
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: time they put out ten year bonds. The other week

917
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: they were paying four point six two percent big interest

918
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: bill on billions and billions of debt. Remembering also that

919
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: they're adding to that debt each and every year until

920
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: they reach an annual surplus. And even if they reach

921
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: an annual surplus, which they aren't, they're not going to

922
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: for years. All you've achieved is not adding to the

923
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: pile of debt. Even if you add not one more

924
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: dollar to that debt, the debt doesn't shrink. It demands

925
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: another eleven billion dollars from you to pay the interest bill.

926
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Speaker 2: The mistake that is so often made as we look

927
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: at other countries and go, oh, look at their debt.

928
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: It's more than ours, either in dollar terms or a

929
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: percentage of GDP. What isn't pointed out is how small

930
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: and how vulnerable and how unable we are to grow

931
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: our way out of this particular problem we owe a lot,

932
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: and ratings agencies, although not alarmed, are these days alert

933
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: to the problem. This government were left with a shedload

934
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: of debt from an economically criminal previous government, and that

935
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: bill is now sitting about to hit by June next

936
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: year eleven billion dollars a year, or if you want

937
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: to put it another way, over thirty million dollars a day,

938
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Speaker 2: every day forever, Lasking. I'm in town yesterday. It's Monday

939
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: really a thing? And Glenson is Monday a thing anymore?

940
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean everyone's working from home, if we're working at all.

941
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: And when Luke Holmbs and Coldplay and Taylor Swims come

942
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: to the country and they're a concert on a Wednesday, going, oh,

943
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: would have gone if it wasn't for a Wednesday, it's

944
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: no longer a thing. It's just days and days.

945
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 24: Anyway.

946
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm in town yesterday for a meeting, and I want

947
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: to pass these Mevo cars And if you don't know

948
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Mivo around the rest of the country, they're sort of

949
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: subscription cars and they sit on the street and you

950
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: through an app, you grab it for an hour and

951
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: drive it around town and park it somewhere else. Anyway.

952
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: Suddenly occurs to me, they're all filthy now, not just Meba,

953
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm not picking on mevo. Any car that sits in

954
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: a city outside for days on it is filthy. And

955
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: what about inside? When you pay money for a car?

956
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: What if the pig before you spilt coffee on it,

957
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: left you and gum under the seat and the place

958
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 2: is a mess and it's all dusty and dirty in yuck,

959
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: and you paid good money. I don't know that they are.

960
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering. As I wanted past the Meeba, I thought,

961
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: why am I paying money for a dirty, filthy car?

962
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: Do I care? Maybe? I don't care? But do they

963
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: ever clean them? When do they get washed? Who comes

964
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: by and washes them? Who picks them up? Who cleans them?

965
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: What's the understanding you have as a hier that it

966
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: will be in good fit state? Let's ask the Prime Minister.

967
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 8: Next.

968
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: New Zealand's Voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

969
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News, togs Head,

970
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: be Pet.

971
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: Murray's on the program oprot hasn't been here for seventeen years.

972
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: When he's back for a series of cons You've got

973
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: a major tour of Australia in New Zealand over the

974
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: next couple of months anyways, with a shortly meantime of

975
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from make the Prime Minister joints us.

976
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Good morning to you, morning, Mike how I I'm very well. Indeed,

977
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: I would, at the risk of being overtly political, I'd

978
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: like to congratulate you on what you did last week

979
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: because I read a lot about it, and what everyone

980
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: seemed to agree on was it was exhausting. There was

981
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: very little downtime, and I noted in your voice by

982
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: at the end of it you could barely speak, so

983
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: it seems to have been a success.

984
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it was a really great week, Mic. I mean,

985
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: you come away from a place like India, going, man,

986
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: there's so much opportunity. I mean, this is a country

987
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 4: it doesn't You can debate their growth rates and whether

988
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: it's enough and all that sort of stuff, but the

989
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 4: bottom line is, you know, man, in the next twenty

990
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 4: thirty fifty years, this place is going to go from

991
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: low to middle income and it's working hard. To get

992
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: to higher income and there's just you got four hundred

993
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: and fifty five million people sitting in the middle class

994
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: there that actually have a huge demand formw zeone products

995
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: and services. So and you know, you've got a population

996
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 4: the size bigger than China, and yet we've got probably

997
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: one twentieth of the trade being done with India. So

998
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 4: I was really pleased. We had a really good connection

999
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: with Promeinis to Modi. We got on very well in

1000
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 4: that we did some extra stuff together which was great

1001
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: than planned. We managed to launch the comprehensive FTA. That'll

1002
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: be a pretty tough conversation now, but we will do

1003
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: the best deal we can for New Zealand. And then yeah,

1004
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: we just we had a good community business delegation who

1005
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 4: made some good connections to you, which was great. So no, really,

1006
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: it's just a good reminder, Mike, sometimes you can get

1007
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 4: out of the bubble and go out in the world

1008
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: and actually feel, man, there's no reason we should be

1009
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 4: thinking opportunity not not problem.

1010
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: Quite great. So you're doing that, Peters is doing Rubio

1011
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: and then you come back home to a pole that's

1012
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: got you. I can't remember the number. Is that one

1013
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: of those issues poles that everyone hates you anyway, So

1014
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: is that deflating.

1015
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't come to politics four years ago to

1016
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 4: worry about poles. I came here to get the things

1017
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: sorted and faxed it on the right track. So you know,

1018
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: I know what my mission and purposes, which is yep.

1019
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 4: It's tough for Kiwi's yep. They want us to go faster.

1020
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: People like you keep pushing me to go even faster

1021
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: and faster. I get it. We've got some good things

1022
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: starting to happen. I mean, we are starting to turn

1023
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: the corner. I reckon. I mean, you saw the GDP

1024
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: numbers up in the fourth quarter last year. That's a

1025
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 4: year after taking government. You've seen interest rates come down.

1026
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: We're expecting another cuts in April and May. You're seeing

1027
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 4: inflation get under control. I mean, I don't know when

1028
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 4: you saw the numbers out of the primary sector, but

1029
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: you know, dairy's looking great. Red meet us talking to

1030
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: Nathan guy the other day, they reckon there's another one

1031
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: point two billion in red meat this year. Even the

1032
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: wool guys have been in really a lot of pain.

1033
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: You know, they're doing a lot better this year. So

1034
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: you know, agriculture's looking good, Services and Manufacturing group the

1035
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: first time. Recently, tourism's up twenty three percent, So it's coming,

1036
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: it's coming. I know that's hard for people to hear,

1037
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: and it is really difficult and it's frustrating, but my god,

1038
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: this is what happens when you inherit a hell of

1039
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 4: a mess from that, and I've got to fix.

1040
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 18: It, can you.

1041
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: I know what you announced yesterday, and I applaud you

1042
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: for that as well as long as something comes off,

1043
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: because the announcements on a rem are more fulsome than

1044
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: the results on RMI. Tell me how you can have

1045
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: a wind farm? The wind farm was rejected under the

1046
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: previous government's fast Train I know what you're talking about

1047
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: it right, So how is it you can't have a

1048
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: renewable facility under fast I mean, what do you need

1049
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: to do well?

1050
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, that's under Parker's old fast

1051
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: track provisions, which that one I can't come on. This

1052
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 4: was a project, but by what I will say is

1053
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 4: like that was insanely stupid. And I mean what we've

1054
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 4: got under our fast tracked legislation because our priority is

1055
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 4: on economic growth that trumps everything. And I know people

1056
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: give me grief on that, but I'm sorry. We are

1057
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 4: over it and we have to grow.

1058
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 10: And so.

1059
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 4: Our our priority and fast track legislation is what's going

1060
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: to drive economic growth regionally or nationally. Projects of that

1061
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: should be approved. We need more wind farms in this country.

1062
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: That was a great location for it. You know, let's

1063
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: see what happens next with that project.

1064
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but then you've got these issues. For example, the

1065
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: Council's stopping the clock on building is one, and the

1066
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: fungal rate Court decision that came out yesterday on flu

1067
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: ride is another. How much resistance are you facing from

1068
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: people who will use every mechanism possible to stall you,

1069
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: slow you and run their own agenda.

1070
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: Well when we're pretty clear right about it or I am,

1071
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 4: which is that we're facing a massive culture in New

1072
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: Zealand of no everyone gets to weaponize the RMA, everyone

1073
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: gets to say no to everything, everyone gets to comment

1074
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: on everything, even if it's on people's own property rights.

1075
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 4: So you know, the council stuff's classic. I mean, Chris

1076
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: Penkas for some reporting, they're supposed to know a pre

1077
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: building consents. I think within twenty days buy and large

1078
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: up and down the country, and then what happens is

1079
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 4: they issue a request for more information about your debt,

1080
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: bracing or whatever it is that they're trying to get

1081
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: a building consent for, and then it gets stalled out

1082
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Speaker 4: and it's insanely stupid. I mean, it now takes us

1083
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Speaker 4: nineteen months to build a standard three to four bedroom

1084
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 4: house in this country and it's fifty percent more expensive

1085
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 4: than Australia, forget the land. So you know we have

1086
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 4: we've got housing crisis. But either you choose to get

1087
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: to the root cause the problem, which is it's this stuff.

1088
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: I know, it's insanely frustrating and it's bureaucracy and it's

1089
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 4: just treacl but we have to keep pushing against it.

1090
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Speaker 4: And that's why we're saying, look self certification of builders,

1091
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Speaker 4: certainly about embracing overseas products, the RMA reforms that we're

1092
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Speaker 4: going to do. I mean RMA has been religion for

1093
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: the last twenty years or so and just wittering and

1094
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: talking about it, but we've whacked and fast tracked within

1095
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: the first few weeks we kicked that off, get into

1096
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Speaker 4: government that's working well or will work well, and then

1097
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Speaker 4: the RMA reforms without yesterday is we're going to have

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Speaker 4: legislation the House by the end of this year. I

1099
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: mean normally it goes on for years, like decades, and

1100
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: you know the last lot made changes under Parker and

1101
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: the implementation was over a ten year period. I mean,

1102
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 4: you can't have that. We've got simplified, We have simplified

1103
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Speaker 4: planning laws big time to make things, get things done.

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Speaker 4: So but you're right, there's this, I mean there's just

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00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: a culture of no. And that's what I said earlier

1106
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Speaker 4: in the year. We have to fight that and say

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Speaker 4: let's start with yes and then then work from there,

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Speaker 4: not not no, which is what's been happening.

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Speaker 2: So another example was o ring A Toma Ricki. So

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00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: so the under the previous government literally literally know when

1111
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: got evicted. So the rules change and they can evic.

1112
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: So they're starting with people. And yet the other day

1113
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: you want to go because you're in India, of but anyway,

1114
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: there's a case I tom Riki go to the tenancy tribunal.

1115
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: This bloke's dealing with drugs. He's shooting people literally, this

1116
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: is kayang Aria. Sorry sorry my apologies. And so he's

1117
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: there is there's gun violences, threats, Yes, drugs is the

1118
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: usual thing. Anyway, There's there's a litany of stuff against

1119
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: the bloke. The tenancy tribunal goes, no, he can stay

1120
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Speaker 2: because you haven't proved any of it. I mean, you

1121
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: know that's what you're up against. So you go, yep,

1122
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: shouldn't trush. So what do you do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where you got to keep pushing and having that fight.

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00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we started that fight again early

1125
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Speaker 4: on and when we first came to power around you know,

1126
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Speaker 4: Chris Bishop did a good job on that around unruly tenants.

1127
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 4: There have been endless complaints and I think three people

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Speaker 4: or something ridiculous evicted from Crown government houses. These are

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Speaker 4: houses that your taxpayer colleagues citizens are paying for you

1130
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: in a tough time to get a state house. And

1131
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: if you don't treat it with respect, there's twenty thousand

1132
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: people on the wait lists who desperate would love to

1133
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Speaker 4: go at having a.

1134
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Speaker 2: State But you say that you agree, But by the

1135
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Speaker 2: time you get to the tenancy tribunal, Brian's there going, oh, no,

1136
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: you didn't prove, so he can stay. So the problem

1137
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: is not solved, is it.

1138
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Speaker 8: No?

1139
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Speaker 4: But then you've got to you've got to keep pushing

1140
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 4: at it, and you've got to keep taking on the

1141
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: it's a cultural problem we've got right in New Zealand.

1142
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 4: We are culturally saying no to stuff and finding excuses

1143
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: for stuff, and we've actually got to push back on

1144
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: the culture and when we need to, as we've been

1145
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 4: trying to do. Then you're rushing through a lot of

1146
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 4: legislation under urgency to come in over the top. So

1147
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 4: we know this is what we are going to do

1148
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 4: in this country. This is the law of the land.

1149
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 4: We expect it to be uphold. But that notion, whether

1150
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: it's been I've faced the same challenge on benefit sanctions. Right,

1151
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but if you're not out there looking for

1152
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 4: a job, which is your job, you're not going to

1153
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: get a resume together, you're not showing up to interviews,

1154
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 4: you're not many with your case manager, then we are

1155
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: sanctioning your benefits. Now, that's rights and responsibilities. That's a

1156
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: culture that we had growing up in New Zealand we

1157
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: need to put back into the country again. And that's

1158
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 4: where a lot of this gets into. It's culture of

1159
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: rights and responsibilities, and it's a culture of yes not no.

1160
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Speaker 2: I was reading Niicola Willis has got the red flag

1161
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: up at the moment on the cost of servicing dead.

1162
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: How worried are you it will approach in the middle

1163
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: of next year eleven billion dollars on the interest just

1164
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: as gone from ten to eleven billion dollars just to

1165
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: service and interests, and you're still not running surpluses, so

1166
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: you're adding to it. How big handbreak is that on success?

1167
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Speaker 4: Look, it's really hard. I mean, you know the story,

1168
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 4: but it's one of the things I don't think the

1169
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Speaker 4: public have registered from the last lot is that they

1170
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 4: inherited five billion of dead and I thought they run

1171
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Speaker 4: it up over one hundred and ten billion. We've now

1172
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Speaker 4: got an interest bill, which people's mortgages have been but

1173
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: now we've got ten to eleven billion of interest. Think

1174
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 4: about that. That's more than what we've probably spent on education, policing, justice,

1175
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 4: you know, at schools, hospitals, roads. We can't build because

1176
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 4: we're just paying a debt back and we've got nothing

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Speaker 4: for the debt that was run up by the last lot. Nothing,

1178
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 4: no better schools, roads, housing, nothing, nothing, productivity enhancing whatsoever.

1179
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: So that's why you'll hear me often say it and

1180
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: get pretty fired up about it's economic mismanagement and vandalism

1181
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 4: from the last lot, and they just sort of gas

1182
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: lighting and pretending it didn't happen. It did happen, and

1183
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: it's caused huge pain and suffering for us and then

1184
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: puts massive pressure on our books. So it's hard. I mean,

1185
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: it's hard, but we've got to get the books back

1186
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: into order over time. It's going to take time, there's

1187
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: no doubt about that. While we're also trying to sort

1188
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 4: of change the we're sort of like driving the car

1189
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 4: and changing the wheel. At the same time, we're trying

1190
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 4: to get the financial discipline place to get the books right.

1191
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: But that's not easy. I mean, it's easy to spend

1192
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: the money. It's easy to take on debt. It's the

1193
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 4: easiest option in the world. Debt is good if it's

1194
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 4: for productivity, enhancing infrastructure and good stuff like that. But

1195
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: it wasn't used in that way. It was just pure

1196
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: consumption and it was out of control, and it leads

1197
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 4: to the situation we've got now with a hangover of

1198
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: an interest bill that is money we can't spend setting

1199
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Speaker 4: the country up for even more success. So yep, that's

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Speaker 4: the reality of the cards that I've been dealt and

1201
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: my government's been dealt. We're working our way through it,

1202
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 4: but it does give people a sense of how difficult

1203
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 4: it is. But we're determined to put financial discipline back

1204
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: into the joint again.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. Prime Minster, Christopher lux Than thirteen to Wait.

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Speaker 2: Be turned away. Our reference briefly Fungaray District Council and

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Speaker 2: their session with fluoride or lack of it in the water.

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Speaker 2: They went to court with money. They didn't have your

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Speaker 2: money if you're in the region, and they hadn't set

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Speaker 2: any amount aside. They just decided or cocka Rulo decided

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Speaker 2: that he'd liked to go to jail rather than floridate

1214
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Speaker 2: the water. And so that went back and forth, and

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Speaker 2: they had all their angsty meetings that I outlined on

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Speaker 2: the program. The other day. They went to court, court

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Speaker 2: came back yesterday, just as Karen Grau, the council's refusal

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Speaker 2: demonstrated regard for legal obligations. No kidding, because Ashley Bloomfield,

1219
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Speaker 2: if you didn't know the story before he left, said

1220
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Speaker 2: a bunch of councils around the country. You got to

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Speaker 2: fluoridate the water. He was allowed to do that. He

1222
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Speaker 2: has the power to do that. Twenty four page judgment

1223
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: demonstrated a concerning public disregard for the legal obligations of

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Speaker 2: a local authority for four months. Cocker RULEO, funnily enough,

1225
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't comment. I wonder, why what a dick. So you've

1226
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: wasted everybody's money, you've wasted everybody's time, and then you

1227
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: won't even be held to account. So I hope you're

1228
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 2: happy fung array, and I hope you turn up and

1229
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: vote the appropriate way. Nine minutes away.

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Speaker 1: From it, the mate Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement,

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Speaker 1: Communities News togs Head be.

1232
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Speaker 2: Sicks away from it. The Jeremy Clarkson writing in the

1233
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: British Press is very funny because he's had a run

1234
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: in with Musk. Years ago. He reviewed an early Tesla

1235
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: and he said, and it was a straight up and

1236
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: down review. He said, basically, it doesn't work very well,

1237
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: doesn't drive very well, it's not a very good car.

1238
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: And Musk suedom and he lost. And so anyway, there's

1239
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: been this back and forth and anyway, rights over the

1240
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: weekend as cluts. And what makes it so juicy, this

1241
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: is the Musk demise at the moment, as everyone around

1242
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: America seems to be setting tesla's on fire. What makes

1243
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: it so juicy is that he's being pecked to death

1244
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: by the very people who put him on the pedestal

1245
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: in the first place. The eco hippies, the zero disciples

1246
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: of Ed Milliband and Al Gore. They love designed ear

1247
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: of electrical cars running on nothing but wind and sunshine.

1248
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: And they swooned when he provided a eco fresh starling

1249
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: communication technology to those poor beleaged soldiers in Ukraine. How

1250
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: do you feel now as you sit in your Tesla

1251
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: while an army of like minded souls kicked the door

1252
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: mirrors off. And what people don't seem to have understood

1253
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: and these idiots setting charges and cars and stuff on

1254
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: fire and booting them in, is that they're probably attacking

1255
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: their own because they've decided that just because you bought

1256
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: a Tesla, you must be a fan of Musk, which

1257
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: is not the case at all. It was an environmental

1258
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: decision for many people, of course, and they tend to

1259
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: be lefties and greenies. It's not just the left rights

1260
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: Clarks and that get their knickers at a twist. But

1261
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: they are by far the most rampant pro active, mainly

1262
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: because so few of them have jobs to distract them

1263
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 2: from whatever prevailing political wind blew through their tent flat

1264
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: that morning. Then you got all those deluded fools who

1265
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: bought one of the company's cars. They make their purchasing

1266
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: decision and good faith, and work hard to make the

1267
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: repayments each month, even though I think it's nothing more

1268
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: than a weeeled white good. It's their pride and joy.

1269
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: It's not fair for someone with hairy armpits and no

1270
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: job to set fire to it. Of course, I'd love

1271
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: to remind you all Tesla drivers that I warned you

1272
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: seventeen years ago that no good would come of your

1273
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: buying choice, but you didn't listen. You chose to believe

1274
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: mister Musk. So he's all coming. It's all coming right

1275
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: for Jeremy at the moment now, Mike, listen, lux and

1276
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: starting to hit a strike. I tend to agree Mike.

1277
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: Today's call with the primers to confirm what I've been saying.

1278
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: It's going to take a generation to get over the

1279
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: six years of economic and social vandalism by labor not

1280
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: one political term. Will you say that? But look at

1281
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: the poles. There's enough people in the polls at the

1282
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: moment to say we'll have some more of that labor please,

1283
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: and toss a little bit of green, Toss a little

1284
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: bit of the tomato to party. Mario on board. We're

1285
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: loving that. Look at the poles, Look at the numbers.

1286
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: Did the numbers lie? How do you sit here in

1287
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: the quagmire that we have economically knowing who did it

1288
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 2: and going, oh yeah, we'll have some more on that please.

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Speaker 2: So that's going to be a contest in the debate

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Speaker 2: next year. Mike Little Weimakarrera United has nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty registered members across all greats, turned down a further

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Speaker 2: thirty du to stretch facilities. Peter Little wymaka Little Wymac United,

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Speaker 2: She's hot in the Wymac newsw in a couple of moments,

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Speaker 2: and then Pete Murray for a song.

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Speaker 1: Cat Mike has game will be stateful, engaging and vital,

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Speaker 1: the mic casking, breakfast with the range rover, the law

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Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 2: He'd bakes.

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Speaker 7: You know how you say.

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Speaker 2: Lao Littil You fault. Now, there's been seventeen years since

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Speaker 2: Murray turd here. His first EP was released way back

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, but it was two thousand

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Speaker 2: and three when the oldum feeler with the hits on

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Speaker 2: Beautiful met A put a rocket under proceedings. He's at

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Speaker 2: last coming back. There's a fifty five day tour in

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Speaker 2: Australia which includes four stops here. He's got famous recently though,

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Speaker 2: as well for his appearance on the cover of Men's

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Speaker 2: Health All Ripped and is the beneficiary of healthy living

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Speaker 2: and good diet, So we've got to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Pete Murray's with us from the Mighty Byron Bay. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mike in sane back. First of all, Byron Bay,

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Speaker 2: have the Hemsworth wrecked it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 18: I don't think so.

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Speaker 24: All that's it's I think, look, I know the guys,

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Speaker 24: they're good fellas and they get a lot of attention

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Speaker 24: of course anywhere they go, but you know, being Byron

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Speaker 24: and so it's pretty hard to to not stand out

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Speaker 24: when you're Hemsworth, I guess.

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Speaker 18: But look, good guys, they're.

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Speaker 24: Lovely family, actually really nice, So no, I don't think

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Speaker 24: they pricked the place at all. It's a lot of

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Speaker 24: people have come and changed the place over time. For me,

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Speaker 24: it's really the thing I loved about when I first

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Speaker 24: moved here to Byron was that it was had such

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Speaker 24: a real bohemian feel, and that's kind of lost the

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Speaker 24: loot now because a lot of hippies that with it

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Speaker 24: were here can't afford to be in the place anymore.

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Speaker 24: And it needs to be the drumming circle up near

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Speaker 24: the main beach that the guy there'd be like, you know,

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Speaker 24: fifty to one hundred people just drumming and dancing and

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Speaker 24: you know, jingling and jangling, and it was just that

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Speaker 24: was kind of a lot of fun.

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Speaker 18: But we missed that.

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Speaker 24: And I first, when I first moved here, I had

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Speaker 24: a Coombe. I've still got my Combie in nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 24: So you'd be driving past Comby Homers all the time,

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Speaker 24: you know, doing the Combe sign. And there's not too

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Speaker 24: many combies left on the roads anymore.

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Speaker 2: So I was going to ask you about that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you have Byron Bay kred because you were in

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Speaker 2: Byron Bay before it became you know, Byron Bay, Well,

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Speaker 2: who knows.

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Speaker 18: I mean, I feel like I do.

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Speaker 24: I feel like I came here, you know, in the

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Speaker 24: early days when there weren't too many artists and well

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Speaker 24: known people living in the area or too much wealth

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Speaker 24: in the area. Well shouldn't say that's still very wealthy

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 24: place for a lot of peop people, but there was

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Speaker 24: also you know, the hippies could live here and the

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Speaker 24: people that were kind of made the town what it was.

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Speaker 24: I think they were able to live here and they

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Speaker 24: can't afford anymore, which is a shame. That's the thing

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Speaker 24: I really missed about the place now. But it's still

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Speaker 24: a beautiful part of the world. And that's why, you know,

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Speaker 24: people want to come and live here because it is

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Speaker 24: such a stunning place. So the beaches are incredible, and

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Speaker 24: you know, the town itself is just a beautiful town.

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Speaker 2: And was it creative and is it still creative for

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Speaker 2: a person like you?

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Speaker 24: Look, I think it's just evolved over time.

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Speaker 18: I think Byron and I came here in the early nineties.

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Speaker 24: For me, I came and saw this place and the

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Speaker 24: first time, you know, it's changed a little bit, still

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Speaker 24: the same at what it is, So I think it's

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Speaker 24: just evolved over time. I remember friends who were my wife,

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Speaker 24: for example, who was born and raised in this area.

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Speaker 24: You know, the Beach Hotel was the main hotel in

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Speaker 24: town there that looks over the ocean. There used to

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Speaker 24: be a bit of a rough, rough pub years ago,

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Speaker 24: I think, a bit of a bikey hang out.

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Speaker 18: But it's changed a bit now.

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Speaker 24: But it's like I said, it's evolved what it is,

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Speaker 24: but it still has this Really it's a peaceful spot

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Speaker 24: to be. Everyone sort of chills out when they come here,

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Speaker 24: and that's the that's the beautiful thing about it. I guess.

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Speaker 2: Was it affected by that big storm the other day

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 24: There was a few trees that were blown down here

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Speaker 24: wasn't as bad as what everyone was thinking. Unfortunately, I

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Speaker 24: wasn't even here well fortunately, but I think for me

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Speaker 24: being away, I was in West Australia doing a show

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Speaker 24: and I had my family over there so we had

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Speaker 24: a holiday when it was all coming through, it was

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Speaker 24: a bit hard not being here to help people and

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Speaker 24: just sort of hoping for the best. And you know,

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Speaker 24: but our place was fine. We had a massive gum

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Speaker 24: tree went down. Lots of gum trees went down actually

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Speaker 24: in those in that storm. So but look, I think

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Speaker 24: the place wasn't as bad as what they thought it

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Speaker 24: was going to be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, hold on, we'll come to this health kick

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Speaker 2: here on in just a couple of moments. Speak Murray

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Speaker 2: out of bar and By in Australia, eleven past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, cowed

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Speaker 1: by News Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: You talk to me thirteen past eight. Pete Murray's with us.

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Speaker 2: He's on his way here. I'll give you the other

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Speaker 2: dates and times of just a couple of months. Now

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Speaker 2: listen to this health business. And now you're big on health,

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01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: and well what have you done for yourself? And that

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: sort of culminated in the cover of Men's Health and

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: I come to that in a moment. But what have

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01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: you done for yourself? And what would you say to

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01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: people by way of a health journey as to its

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Speaker 2: value life wise?

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Speaker 24: Well, look for me, Mike, my dad died when I

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01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 24: was he was forty seven, I was eighteen. So for me,

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Speaker 24: I've always been involved in athletics and swimming and rugby.

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 24: That was they were my you know, three big sports.

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Speaker 24: I love them and I always remained sort of healthy.

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01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 24: I never wanted to be unfit so you know, when

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 24: dad died, it was even more of I guess a

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Speaker 24: factor for me to go make sure they look after

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Speaker 24: my health, make sure they eat well, and I look

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Speaker 24: after himself because his dad also had a stroke and

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01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 24: we started to go, Okay, there's a bit of hereditary

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01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 24: heart diseases, so we've got to be careful. I've been

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Speaker 24: tested and I'm fine. You know, they've been told I shouldn't,

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Speaker 24: I shouldn't drop out of a heart attack, so let's

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Speaker 24: hope that doesn't happen. But I feel healthy and fit,

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01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 24: and look, you know in Byron Bay have healthy food,

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01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 24: your organic food. We try to eat as organic food

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 24: as possible. And I think just keeping you know, as

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 24: you get older, you really got to keep up your

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01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 24: strength and your and your fitness, otherwise you start to

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01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 24: fall away. And it's harder as you get older, harder

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01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 24: to sort of keep to maintain that once you start

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01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 24: to lose it.

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Speaker 18: But I've always been kind of kept healthy and fit.

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Speaker 16: I just like it.

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Speaker 18: I feeling that way now.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the color of men's health. I mean a

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Speaker 2: lot of us, you know, are healthy and do well

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01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff, but we don't eat

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Speaker 2: up on the cover of Men's Healthy. You really, I

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: mean looking at you, you look not far shorter than

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01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: the donners. How did how did you get to that point?

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Speaker 18: Well? That was you know, that was just kind of

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Speaker 18: luck how that happened. I had.

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Speaker 24: I was buying some shoes off the trainers who I

1442
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 24: was doing that with M and Chief and the shoes

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01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 24: didn't arrive. So they've felt really bad. And the said, look,

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Speaker 24: can we can we at least off you a fitness program?

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Speaker 24: And and I said, well, look, you know what, You've

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Speaker 24: actually got a few of my friends on the cover

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Speaker 24: of Men's Health, So I'll take a fitness program for sure.

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Speaker 18: And they said, well, let's make let's make it our

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Speaker 18: goal to get you on the cover. So I did this.

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Speaker 18: It was diet. It was the biggest thing for me.

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Speaker 24: I'd always been sort of working hard with my training,

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01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 24: but I wasn't probably looking after the dietary side it

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Speaker 24: that well, to drop the fat.

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Speaker 18: You know.

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Speaker 24: So I've got a full carbs and all sugars, and

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 24: I don't have a lot of sugar anyway. But when

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01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 24: you cut all sugars out on your diet, man, do

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01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 24: you start craving sugar in the first week, I just

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 24: was dreaming of Mars bars and ice cream.

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Speaker 18: I couldn't get out of my head, you know, like

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Speaker 18: I never think about that stuff.

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Speaker 24: But once you drop all that stuff and then all

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Speaker 24: the carbs, I just really sort of had a really

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 24: lean diet, lean meat, salads and gus and that's what

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Speaker 24: I stuck too.

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Speaker 18: So that was with my training.

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Speaker 24: We just changed a bit to really sort of increase

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Speaker 24: my heart rate while I was still doing my strength work,

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Speaker 24: and the weight just dropped off. So in twelve weeks,

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Speaker 24: I was I think I was ninety three kilo, which

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Speaker 24: I'm normally at most of the time. I dropped down

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Speaker 24: to eighty one. So on that cover, I was like,

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Speaker 24: I was quite too lean for me, I thought, But

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Speaker 24: you know, sticking to that program, I just shreaded down

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 24: and you know, you've got to see six pack back

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 24: there again, which is nice. I've kind of maintained that

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Speaker 24: a bit now, not probably to that level, but I'm

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 24: still maintaining.

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Speaker 2: This because one of the things correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: Once you put the energy in the effort and you

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Speaker 2: don't want to go.

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Speaker 18: Back, correct, yeah you don't.

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Speaker 24: And I think, just like I said, with m got

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Speaker 24: me on this on this diet, which I still stick

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Speaker 24: to pretty much, you know, and just taking a lot

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01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 24: of sugars and carbs out and I like that.

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Speaker 18: So I like you feel a lot leaner. You're not

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Speaker 18: carrying you know, I think you carrying a bit of

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Speaker 18: weight around your face. Just don't do that anymore, you know.

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Speaker 24: So and at you're training, I just I have less

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Speaker 24: breaks in between the sets so that I kind of

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Speaker 24: keep the heart rate up and you just keep you

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Speaker 24: just keep burning that fuel and.

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Speaker 2: Good for your performance as well, apart from anything I'm assuming.

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Speaker 18: Oh absolutely, mat Yeah, we'll look, you know.

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Speaker 24: Coming into this tour that I'm about to do, it's

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Speaker 24: like I think it's fifty nine sixty dates out in

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 24: the New Zealand shows in there, so it's a lot

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01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 24: of shows coming up. And so you know, by the

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Speaker 24: time he gets to sort of halfway through there, you

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Speaker 24: start getting pretty tired.

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 18: That the travel starts to get to a little bit.

1503
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 18: But like I said, I eat well.

1504
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 24: And if I can get to the gym when I'm

1505
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 24: a camera of a land in the next place, I

1506
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 24: get to the gym and keep healthy, you always feel better.

1507
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: Now, listen, what is what the I haven't been to

1508
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: New Zealand for seventeen years. What's that about?

1509
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 18: Was that seventeen years?

1510
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's what i'm that's what i'm reading. You haven't

1511
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: been there for years. Clearly you're going to tell me

1512
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: that's not true.

1513
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 18: That's wrong.

1514
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 24: Well, the last time I played there, Well, let me

1515
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 24: just check this up. I'm trying to think last time

1516
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 24: I played there? That could be right.

1517
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 2: Well, well, hold on, don't come on this program and

1518
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: tell me I'm wrong. It's like, you know, twenty five

1519
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: minus seventeen, what have you got two thousand and seven,

1520
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, something like that?

1521
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 24: You know what?

1522
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 18: That might be right there? You go think of that long.

1523
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 24: But I think the last time I remember playing there

1524
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 24: was probably around that time. I think someone can correct

1525
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 24: me if I'm wrong here, some of them can make

1526
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 24: a call and let me know. But I think that

1527
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 24: was the last time I remember playing. I've been back

1528
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 24: there before, love New Zealand, getting back over and holiday

1529
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 24: with family just recently too. In fact, when COVID hit

1530
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 24: a few years back, I've got the last flight out

1531
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 24: of the place back to Australia. In fact, we were

1532
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 24: probably disappointed that we've got on that flight because it

1533
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 24: would have been nice to stay in New Zealand for

1534
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 24: that time.

1535
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 18: But yet playing shows. It's been a long time I've

1536
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 18: been back there years, could be right, So.

1537
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: I go back to the original question. What's with the

1538
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: seventeen years Pete since your last play to you?

1539
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 18: You know that's been too long, hasn't.

1540
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 24: We've got a correct that now, make sure I get

1541
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 24: back there and certain and I'm coming back to correct

1542
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 24: that now.

1543
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 18: So looking forward to it.

1544
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 24: Actually doing four shows over there in New Zealand. I

1545
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 24: May one, two, three and four. So yeah, it's gonna

1546
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 24: be good, fun.

1547
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: Brilliant to talk to you.

1548
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 5: Now.

1549
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: Listen, maybe when you get here, bring your guitar and

1550
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: come in and see us and sing us a song.

1551
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: That'll be nice.

1552
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 4: Ah.

1553
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 18: Absolutely yeah, I'm totally out for that, mate, that'd be great.

1554
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: Good on you go well, Pete Murray, so coming to

1555
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: the country. He's got that wrong. One, two, three and four.

1556
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: It is the thirtieth of April's in Queenstown. I mean,

1557
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: first of all, he didn't know when he was last year,

1558
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: so let's me. You know, it's a miracle who's coming. Mean,

1559
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 2: in fact, for all we know, he may not May

1560
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 2: just think he's coming. He may not dinner. So thirtieth

1561
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: of April's in Queenstown. Then it's one, two and three Littleton,

1562
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: Wellington and Auckland. If you're into a bit of Pete Murray,

1563
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: which we are, this is I am fire. This version

1564
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: he's done specially for us.

1565
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 3: I am fired.

1566
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 25: I will say.

1567
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 18: I'm here. Say just know that I'm not too far.

1568
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 25: I take my hand.

1569
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 18: I hope you can see me. I am fired. I'll

1570
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 18: stay the.

1571
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 20: Night and I'm staying, and feel.

1572
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 7: And I'm staying.

1573
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 25: Then I will never let you down.

1574
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 18: And I'm staying.

1575
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 25: Then I'll never let you down. Oh, I'll never let

1576
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 25: you down. No, I will never let you down.

1577
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: The mic Husking breakfast with the range Rover, the lawn

1578
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: news talks.

1579
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Speaker 13: Be Yeah.

1580
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Speaker 2: In every corner of the property market, you're gonna see

1581
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: one name time and time again. It's the bast of

1582
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 2: the beast. It's by real Estate humble beginnings to our

1583
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: position as New Zealand's large list largest locally owned, fully

1584
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,919
Speaker 2: serviced real estate agency. This is Bailey's. The've got expertise

1585
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 2: across that residential market. Commercial, yes, rural sectors, you bet.

1586
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 2: And they produce altogether better results for their client's time

1587
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Speaker 2: after time. It's why we love them. Whether you're on

1588
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: the farm, or in the warehouse or opening those doors

1589
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: to your dream home. The team of more than two

1590
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,839
Speaker 2: thousand professionals has got the skills, the knowledge, the networks

1591
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: to add value to your endeavors, which is why Bailey's

1592
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 2: is the country's most trusted real estate brand, backed by

1593
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: the proven track record of finding those buyers others can't

1594
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: and putting people at the heart of everything they do.

1595
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 2: They've done real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, and

1596
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 2: they're going to keep doing things all together better in

1597
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Speaker 2: every sector, for every KeyWe for the next fifty years

1598
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: and beyond. We love them. Bailey's dot Co dot NZ

1599
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: licensed under the Area Act of two thousand and eight.

1600
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Speaker 2: Discover the difference with Bailey's dot Co dot Nz. There'll

1601
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: be you glen one of those specials. If you wouldn't

1602
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: mind bought six of them, use one mask there will

1603
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: go fantastic. Mike Pete Murray opened for David grind too

1604
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: and six. Mike saw Pete Murray up for David grat

1605
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 2: the Civic approximately ten years ago. Well it wasn't a program.

1606
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: I wasn't. He wasn't ten years ago.

1607
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Speaker 18: It wasn't.

1608
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 2: We've just established that he was the main act for me,

1609
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: David Gray. Funnily enough, we had him on the program.

1610
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: Were we have David Graan in the program? Be over

1611
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: a decade ago now? And it was one of those

1612
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: interviews and I thought, David Gray, Okay, let's get anyway.

1613
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: It turns out to be a lovely bloke. I thought, Jeesey,

1614
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: you're a lovely bloke. I didn't say that in the

1615
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: interview because that would have been weird. He would have gone,

1616
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: what's this guy? This guy on a weirdo? Twenty fourteen?

1617
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: There you go? Eleven years ago? Is right, isn't it?

1618
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm good with time. I thought it was bad.

1619
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 7: I just put out a new album out recently.

1620
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: David Gray, Well, why isn't he on the program? Glenn?

1621
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 7: He's got an apartment?

1622
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: Where's Sam? What the hell's he doing? Sam? Where's David Gray?

1623
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: Breaking news? David Gray's got a new album, Sam's going?

1624
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: Who's David Gray? I mean, for goodness, sex were the

1625
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: nicest guy's've ever interviewed. I'm just saying this. I didn't

1626
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: think he was, but he turned out to be a

1627
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: bit bloke. By the way, fifth anniversary of the first lockdown,

1628
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: speaking of cheery news five years ago today we were

1629
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: locked down for the first time Level four until the

1630
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: twenty seven of the April. Anyway, the reason I tell

1631
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: you that, apart from the fact that's so suh, so

1632
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: much fun to wander down memory lane and tell our

1633
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 2: COVID stories. As Brook Vanvelden is reminding us that phase

1634
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: two of this inquiry, which is underway, she's encouraging the

1635
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: public to submit. Do you submit with a genuine belief

1636
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: that anything's going to happen out of this and things

1637
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: will be completely different next time? What do you reckon?

1638
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: Let me know Rod little Pee, Well, he's a good

1639
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 2: bloke as well. He probably knows David Gray anyway, he's

1640
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: with us after the news, which is next tier at

1641
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:33,480
Speaker 2: news talk, zb.

1642
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking break

1643
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: best with Bailey's real estate altogether, better across residential, commercial

1644
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: and rural news talks.

1645
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: Dead b right, So I referencedly and Lawson earlier on

1646
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: in the program. It's got to Fox in America. So

1647
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: it's a truly global story. There's a tremendous amount of

1648
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: interest in what has happened or what is happening. And

1649
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: this was the first article i'd really whereby times were

1650
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: in play. And it doesn't make it any better, but

1651
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: it's just an interesting comparison. It's the sort of data

1652
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: they're going to be looking at, and it does reference

1653
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: back to people like Perez, back to the whole vistappen

1654
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: versus whoever's alongside them. But let me come to that

1655
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: in just a couple of moments, because meantime, at twenty

1656
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: three minutes away from.

1657
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 22: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1658
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 22: mind for New Zealand business, we have.

1659
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: To go to Britain and my friend Rod Littles willis Rod,

1660
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: very good morning.

1661
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 14: To you, My good morning to you as well.

1662
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: Just quickly he throw airport. I've become fascinated with it

1663
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: over the weekend because first of all, everyone went, all

1664
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: that'll be terror, then it wasn't terror. And then the

1665
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: guy runs the airport said, oh, well, it's not really

1666
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: my fault because the power poles down the road. And

1667
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: then there was the report that was written ten years

1668
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: ago that said to tell you what you might be

1669
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 2: in trouble here and then so where does this go?

1670
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: And does anybody get held accountable or do we just

1671
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: ignore everything and it'll happen again.

1672
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 14: One does get held accountable in the enda, I mean,

1673
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 14: it was a remarkable story and full of non secreteurs. Yeah,

1674
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 14: there was a worry, as there would be. I don't

1675
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 14: blame people for worrying that it could possibly have been

1676
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 14: a foreign agent, i e.

1677
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 18: Russia.

1678
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 14: You know, I don't blame them for thinking that. But

1679
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 14: basically it was just a substation that went on fire.

1680
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 14: And quite clearly, I think Richard Tice of Reform UK

1681
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 14: had a point when he said that the airport might

1682
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 14: have been all right if it had had its regular

1683
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 14: non net zero backup stuff. Now Heathrowers said, look, that's

1684
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 14: not true. They switched to a biomass combined generator. That's

1685
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 14: not true. It just that they just said, it just

1686
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 14: takes a lot of time for us to sort out

1687
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 14: the the problems and to bring the back up into effect. Well,

1688
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 14: you know that's not a backup, is it.

1689
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 19: No.

1690
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 14: If you're in a hospital and you're on you're on

1691
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 14: my support and the electricity goes down, then something kicks in.

1692
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 14: Every hospital has that Heathrow doesn't for whatever reason. And

1693
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 14: I think that the boss of Heathrow Airport is going

1694
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 14: to be in the firing line. He was kind of

1695
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 14: held out to dry, hung out to dry by the

1696
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 14: Labor Party this afternoon. And I think that when push

1697
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 14: comes to shove, that's where the problem will be and

1698
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 14: that's who will face a cup for it. And you know,

1699
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 14: probably rightly.

1700
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: All right, the economy. So I'm watching Rachel Reeves over

1701
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: the weekend with Missus Crumbsburg, and a couple of things

1702
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 2: came up, not least of which were free tickets to

1703
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: the Sabrina Krpenter show. But be there as it may, Yes,

1704
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: where is she at in terms of one one thing?

1705
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm reading that the borrowing was higher than expected for Fibruary,

1706
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: so they're still not getting the under control and other

1707
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: things that she's going to get fifteen percent cat to

1708
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: the civil service. Where are we at economically? Is she

1709
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: in control of this or not?

1710
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 14: Not remotely in control of it? And in real trouble?

1711
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 14: And frankly, if a politician does not understand, after all

1712
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 14: we've been through, particularly in the early part the first

1713
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 14: one hundred days of Starma, that taking a free being

1714
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 14: a box of a Sabrina Carpenter concert doesn't play well

1715
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 14: with the audience. This woman has no grasp either of

1716
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 14: economics or of popular political support, just no grasp at all.

1717
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 14: So our economy is lamentable. I'm a nationalist, obviously, you know,

1718
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 14: we all love our country. But when an American commentator said,

1719
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 14: you know its economy is in free for there weren't

1720
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 14: far wrong. There is no growth whatsoever, but an awful

1721
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 14: lot of that is down to that budget which she

1722
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 14: produced in the early days of the Starmar administration, which

1723
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 14: which effectively disincentivized businesses from hiring anyone, from raising wages,

1724
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 14: et cetera, et cetera. She is a real problem. I

1725
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 14: don't think that the Office for Budget Responsibility, which is

1726
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 14: what this is all about this week, will do that much,

1727
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 14: either for or against her. But the knives around for

1728
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 14: I was talking to some people who do have the

1729
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 14: year of Kiars darm I really do, and they said, look,

1730
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 14: this is a pretty good cabinet apart from Reeves and Milliband,

1731
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 14: and that was it. That's that's where it is.

1732
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: And so do they shuffle her eventually or not?

1733
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 14: I think they do. I think given that I don't

1734
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 14: think Sir Kars Starmer has an ideological bone in his body.

1735
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 14: It isn't probably not a kind of a bond of

1736
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,440
Speaker 14: loyalty to anyone particularly. It really is a peculiar individual

1737
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 14: who is doing quite well at the moment. Nonetheless, I

1738
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 14: think that sooner or later they will have to get

1739
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 14: rid of her, and I think it's probably sooner rather

1740
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 14: than later. There has to be an upturn in this economy.

1741
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 14: We have to see a degree of growth. If we don't,

1742
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 14: she's failed on Labour's first test and therefore has to.

1743
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: Go give us an update on the war. So I

1744
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: know that you guys and the French are having a meeting,

1745
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: and where where is this going? Where are we are?

1746
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 2: We just standing by for whatever happens in Saudi Arrivia

1747
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: between the Russians and the Americans, and you get told

1748
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: what to do and et cetera.

1749
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 14: I think, Mike, you probably have a better idea of

1750
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 14: this than any of the government ministers involved. And then

1751
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 14: I do not. I just I'm sorry, mate, I just

1752
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 14: simply do not. It is good of Sakire starting to

1753
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 14: try to galvanize the Europeans, but galvanizing the Europeans is

1754
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 14: like trying to sort of taste custard on a wall.

1755
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 14: They are ungalvanizable, And you know, Coalition of the willing

1756
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 14: already gave you a clue as to the fact that

1757
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 14: the majority were actually not willing, and what they will do.

1758
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 14: As the Americans have said us, the Russians have sniggered,

1759
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 14: as the Ukrainians have said, what exactly you doing? There

1760
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 14: is no clear strategy involved, there's no clear purpose for

1761
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 14: what they're going to be doing. The heads of military

1762
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 14: meeting decided nothing at all. And you kind of feel

1763
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 14: for both Starma and Macron. And I'll tell you the truth, mate,

1764
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 14: I've never felt anything for Macron before in my life,

1765
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 14: but I do feel a degree of sympathy that they

1766
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 14: are trying to hold a kind of European military unity

1767
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 14: together in the face of what I suppose we might

1768
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 14: call reality.

1769
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, might we'll catch up this They

1770
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: appreciate it as always right little in Britain Tuesdays Thursdays.

1771
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: By the way, just before we leave that particular part

1772
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: of the world, I know, and I gave you Japanese

1773
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: numbers early on for Mount Fuji. So the tourism industry

1774
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: is booming I that London's is booming as well. One

1775
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: of these tourist attractions. I'll give you the numbers because

1776
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: they did a sort of a top twenty six point

1777
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: four to seven nine million visitors last year, which is

1778
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: an eleven percent increase. Overall, there's an uplift of three

1779
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: and a half percent on visitor numbers to the great

1780
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 2: visitor attractions of Britain Great Windsor Park or Windsor Great

1781
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: Park most visited outdoor attraction five point seven million people.

1782
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: That's a three percent increase. I won't give you all

1783
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: of them. Some of them aren't that some Paul's Cathedral

1784
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: surprises me. It's number twenty. I would have thought it

1785
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 2: was high. But the number seven is the National Gallery,

1786
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: the Tate Modern, which is a must that was visited

1787
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 2: last year by four point six million people. I mean

1788
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 2: that's tourism, isn't it. Win's a great Park five point six.

1789
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: As I told you, the National History Museum is number

1790
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: two at six point three. So what then is the

1791
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:46,480
Speaker 2: most popular.

1792
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 7: Tourist attraction Street Seat?

1793
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 2: Surely it's not a bad guess, but it's in Manchester,

1794
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 2: not London, but good go British Museum six point five

1795
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: million people went to the British Museum eight forty five.

1796
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1797
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: by News Talks at.

1798
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 2: B twelve I from nine year, just quickly on Lawson

1799
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 2: and this morning's commentary. If it's an interesting way of

1800
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,879
Speaker 2: putting it. If insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly

1801
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: and expecting different results. Red Bull's Young Driver program is

1802
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 2: a certified case. We're now in the seventh year of

1803
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: the brand trying to replace Daniel Ricardo in its flagship

1804
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: Red Bull burnt through Pierre Gasley, Alex Elbon, most recently

1805
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: Sogio Perez. Liam Lawson is the latest driver to step

1806
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: into F one's most heavily cursed seat. So the differences

1807
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: they've gone through in races, So in Australia for Staff

1808
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 2: and came third Lawson K eighteenth, the difference in time

1809
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 2: between them was over a second, almost one point one second.

1810
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: So the argument from Helmet Marco and Christian Horne has

1811
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: been very clear, you need to be within point three.

1812
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: Has he been within point three, Yes he has. He

1813
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: wasn't testing at Silverstone last year when they gave him

1814
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 2: the big test. They said stay within point three you've

1815
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: got the job. It's on drive to survive. You can

1816
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: see it there. He goes to point two. Hadn't driven

1817
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 2: the car, same car, hadn't driven the car for seven months,

1818
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 2: got in, got it within point two, so they know

1819
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: he can do it and that's the bit that will

1820
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: saver ultimately. China, we had two races in the Chinese

1821
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: Grand Prix. We had the sprint race in the Grand Prix.

1822
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: In the sprint race, Vestapan came second, Lawson came twentieth

1823
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: and it was point eight one to three, so nowhere

1824
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: close to point three. It was point eight. And the

1825
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: Grand Prix itself, Astappen was fourth, Lawson was twentieth. It

1826
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: was point seven five. Oh, so they've got timing problems.

1827
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: If you compare it to the average of twenty twenty

1828
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: fourth for Perez on average over all the races, it

1829
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 2: was point seven and that was enough to get them sacked.

1830
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: So the race results themselves. In Australia, Lawson didn't finish.

1831
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: In the sprint race, Lawson came fourteenth, thirty five seconds

1832
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 2: down on Verstapin, and in the Grand Prix he came twelfth.

1833
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Lawson elevated but sixty four and a half seconds down

1834
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: on Vistapen. If you want to go back to Perez,

1835
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: the average over the races was five point two one seconds.

1836
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 2: But it's all about the point, so you can look

1837
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: at the data, and data is what drives it. So

1838
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 2: it's not really an opinion based job. It's a job

1839
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: of numbers, and the numbers don't lie, and they know

1840
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: what he can do, and this is their conundrum. They

1841
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: know what he's done for the first two meetings, but

1842
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 2: they know what he can do, and both of them

1843
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 2: have a set of numbers around them. So that's where

1844
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 2: the that's where the pinch point comes. My guess is

1845
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: they'll let him do Japan and maybe then move on

1846
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 2: to Bahrain because he knows both tracks, and that would

1847
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 2: be a fair argument. You've been there before. You know Japan, well,

1848
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: you know bar Rain. Well let's see what you can

1849
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: do on tracks you know, and then we'll reassess. But

1850
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 2: let's see nine away from nine.

1851
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news dogs,

1852
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: there'd be the good point's been made to me a

1853
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: number of times over the last couple of days Mike

1854
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: regarding Liam Laws, and I hope that Red Bull are

1855
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: wrapping some support around him to protect him from the

1856
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: ridiculous social media speculation.

1857
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,799
Speaker 2: Despite his talent, there's nothing worse than the corrosive impact

1858
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: of their negative medias. And he's not been on social media.

1859
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: He said this over there was it China or Melbourne?

1860
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: Can't remember, but he's not been on social media for

1861
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks and wisely, so you also got

1862
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: to remember that these guys have lived this their entire life.

1863
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 2: This is not new. This is not like he wasn't

1864
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: a mechanic or working at McDonald's and they said, do

1865
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 2: you fancy driving a car? He's been in this environment

1866
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 2: his entire life, so they're toughened up to what they're

1867
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: in for. Obviously, there's a massive step from where they've

1868
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: been to where they are and f one, it's a

1869
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 2: whole different ballgame, and yes it breaks certain people, but

1870
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: nevertheless they are to some extent anyway reasonably used to it.

1871
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: And he's had helmet Marco and is he literally since

1872
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: he's been in a go kart, So this will be

1873
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 2: uncomfortable and not fun, but at least it won't be

1874
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 2: unheard off from his point of view. But I think

1875
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 2: they're reasonably good at protecting them and things like that.

1876
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: Five minutes away from nine.

1877
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

1878
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: Now George Clooney is he's been back on sixty minutes.

1879
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: He spoke about the government. He's promoting his Broadway show.

1880
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: He's talked about the government being full of lies and

1881
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: how they negotiate the facts and they're using the position

1882
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: of governments to you know, scare corporations and journalists. And

1883
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: he was asking about anyway they got around to asking

1884
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 2: him about Knife and Biden. You know that famous letter

1885
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 2: that he wrote.

1886
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 4: I make it kind of easy. I was raised to

1887
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 4: tell the truth.

1888
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 26: I had seen the president up close for this fundraiser,

1889
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 26: and I was surprised, and so I feel as if

1890
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 26: there was a lot of profiles and cowardice in my

1891
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 26: party through all of that, and I was not proud

1892
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 26: of that.

1893
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 4: And I also believed I had to tell the truth.

1894
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: So that's what he said. Did he talk about a

1895
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 2: show on Broadway at all? Do they get to that?

1896
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: Not really?

1897
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 7: Sorry, I haven't had time to watch the entire sixty minutes.

1898
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 2: Has he got us read here? He's died?

1899
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 7: He was normal, sort of salt and pepper, normal, sort

1900
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 7: of in you are a really good looking game.

1901
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: He is good look but I saw him with his

1902
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: new brown hair and he looks ridiculous, and a Mile

1903
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: doesn't like it at all. Why would the now highly

1904
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 2: discredited sixty Minutes be doing a total puff piece on

1905
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: George Clooney, a second rate movie star and failed political pundit.

1906
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 2: He fought hard for Sleepy Joe's election and then right

1907
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 2: after the debate dumped him like a dog. Later, I assume,

1908
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,919
Speaker 2: under orders from the Obama camp, pushed all out for Carmela,

1909
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: only to soon realize that that was not going to

1910
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 2: work out well. Sixty Minutes even fraudulently inserted fake answers

1911
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: into her disastrous interview aired just before election day and

1912
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: one of the most embarrassing and dishonest events in broadcast history.

1913
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 2: And now George Clooney again, his press agent should be

1914
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: making a fortune. The prize for this morning is who

1915
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 2: said that?

1916
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 24: Hmm?

1917
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: A guy who just can't let things go, who came

1918
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: out on truth social with that particular spray. So he's

1919
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 2: suing sixty Minutes at the moment. There's great ankst within

1920
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: sixty minutes over that aforementioned Carmel Harrison interview, there's great

1921
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: angst within sixty minutes as to whether there could be

1922
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 2: some sort of settlement over that, and that sort of

1923
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: means that you would acquiesce to basically illegal bully or

1924
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: whether they're going to fight it out in court. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that is us for a Tuesday morning, which means tomorrow

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Speaker 2: is Wednesday, which means we'll be here at the same time,

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Speaker 2: and there's no excuse why you shouldn't be either, So

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Speaker 2: six o'clock is start time. We'll see you then, as always,

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Speaker 2: happy days.

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Speaker 24: We did.

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Speaker 1: If you hold me for some BAZONI for more from

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Speaker 1: the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. It'd

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