1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks at B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio, 3 00:00:21,493 --> 00:00:32,053 Speaker 1: straight down the Middle of Trust to get inside the 4 00:00:32,093 --> 00:00:36,213 Speaker 1: game from every end Goal. It's Rugby Direct with Elliot 5 00:00:36,213 --> 00:00:39,293 Speaker 1: Smith and Liam Nabier powered by News Talks B. 6 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:43,133 Speaker 2: Welcome into Rugby Direct powered by habitat Physio, book today 7 00:00:43,253 --> 00:00:46,253 Speaker 2: and stay in the Game. Elliot Smith back with you 8 00:00:46,373 --> 00:00:51,253 Speaker 2: for a late week podcast. No, Liam is part of 9 00:00:51,293 --> 00:00:53,413 Speaker 2: the podcast still. I've seen some of the feedback on 10 00:00:53,453 --> 00:00:56,213 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts. He is still on the podcast. But when 11 00:00:56,213 --> 00:00:59,133 Speaker 2: you break your wrist in ten places, you have a 12 00:00:59,133 --> 00:01:02,813 Speaker 2: few specialist appointments to go through as well as other 13 00:01:02,893 --> 00:01:05,373 Speaker 2: things as well. And that coincided with going to two 14 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:08,293 Speaker 2: podcasts a week. And it's here to stay. Our shit 15 00:01:08,413 --> 00:01:12,333 Speaker 2: jewels have been clashing over the last week while and 16 00:01:12,853 --> 00:01:15,053 Speaker 2: Nape's still not back in the office, So for those 17 00:01:15,093 --> 00:01:17,653 Speaker 2: of you out there worried about Liam, Hopefully once he's 18 00:01:17,693 --> 00:01:19,613 Speaker 2: back in the office and in the next couple of weeks, 19 00:01:19,653 --> 00:01:22,853 Speaker 2: we're back to some normality on Rugby Direct. But we 20 00:01:22,893 --> 00:01:25,453 Speaker 2: do appreciate you listening, Elligot Smith. As I said, with you, 21 00:01:25,693 --> 00:01:28,173 Speaker 2: Mark Kelly, our producer is going to chip in with 22 00:01:28,213 --> 00:01:30,373 Speaker 2: a bit here and there today as well. Of course 23 00:01:30,413 --> 00:01:33,253 Speaker 2: you would have heard our earlier podcast in the week 24 00:01:33,293 --> 00:01:36,733 Speaker 2: when the All Blacks assistant coaches were named. Feels like 25 00:01:36,773 --> 00:01:41,813 Speaker 2: it's been a relatively straightforward procession in terms of the 26 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:44,373 Speaker 2: acceptance of those names. I don't think too many people 27 00:01:44,453 --> 00:01:47,293 Speaker 2: have quibbled with the people that they put in place, 28 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:52,053 Speaker 2: so I think universally everyone's happy with Neil Barnes in particular, 29 00:01:52,173 --> 00:01:56,613 Speaker 2: and his straightforward, no bullshit style of talking that I 30 00:01:56,613 --> 00:01:58,973 Speaker 2: think is going to be outstanding for the All Blacks 31 00:01:59,013 --> 00:02:01,733 Speaker 2: over the next couple of that he isn't long. May 32 00:02:01,773 --> 00:02:05,853 Speaker 2: that be retained when he does media, and hopefully that 33 00:02:06,173 --> 00:02:08,613 Speaker 2: flows through to the other coaches as well. I thought 34 00:02:08,613 --> 00:02:11,533 Speaker 2: it was refreshing Neil Barnes. He spoke after we did 35 00:02:11,533 --> 00:02:14,213 Speaker 2: the podcast the other day, but he cut through the 36 00:02:14,213 --> 00:02:17,053 Speaker 2: crap and I just thought it was what we needed 37 00:02:17,093 --> 00:02:19,573 Speaker 2: to hear. It was reassuring. The proof is going to 38 00:02:19,573 --> 00:02:21,333 Speaker 2: be in the pudding with the coaching, of course, but 39 00:02:22,053 --> 00:02:25,053 Speaker 2: he strikes me, and I'm not sure anyone would disagree 40 00:02:25,093 --> 00:02:28,773 Speaker 2: listening to this coach that just likes the basics, and 41 00:02:28,853 --> 00:02:30,853 Speaker 2: I think that's what's deserted the All Blacks over the 42 00:02:30,933 --> 00:02:34,973 Speaker 2: last couple of years is the basics and hopefully this 43 00:02:35,013 --> 00:02:36,773 Speaker 2: will be the start of getting it back together. He's 44 00:02:36,813 --> 00:02:38,893 Speaker 2: got a lot of work on his plate, Neil Barnes 45 00:02:38,893 --> 00:02:41,213 Speaker 2: as he gets down to business with the All Blacks 46 00:02:41,693 --> 00:02:44,133 Speaker 2: and Jason Ryan are the only assistants currently in the 47 00:02:44,213 --> 00:02:46,813 Speaker 2: country along with tan Umonger. But he's got a job 48 00:02:46,813 --> 00:02:49,693 Speaker 2: to focus on with Morena Pacifica, so there's a lot 49 00:02:49,733 --> 00:02:51,533 Speaker 2: of work on his plate to connect with the Super 50 00:02:51,613 --> 00:02:55,213 Speaker 2: Rugby franchises. It was encouraging to hear that he was 51 00:02:55,253 --> 00:02:58,013 Speaker 2: in strong alignment with Jason Ryan, and having interviewed Jason 52 00:02:58,093 --> 00:03:01,133 Speaker 2: Ryan for a couple of years now, I think they 53 00:03:01,173 --> 00:03:04,173 Speaker 2: will go well together in the All Blacks setup as well. 54 00:03:04,253 --> 00:03:07,973 Speaker 2: So universally pretty pleased, I think everyone with the names 55 00:03:08,093 --> 00:03:11,293 Speaker 2: that were named by the New Zealand Rugby Steve Lancaster 56 00:03:11,653 --> 00:03:14,213 Speaker 2: on behalf of Dave Rennie. It did throw up a 57 00:03:14,213 --> 00:03:17,053 Speaker 2: couple of other questions though, and one of those is 58 00:03:17,093 --> 00:03:21,213 Speaker 2: around Winda Pacifica and where they go to next. They 59 00:03:21,253 --> 00:03:23,093 Speaker 2: said in their media release when they announced that tana 60 00:03:23,173 --> 00:03:26,693 Speaker 2: Umage was leaving that they would start a recruitment process. 61 00:03:26,733 --> 00:03:28,453 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be very, very important, and 62 00:03:28,493 --> 00:03:30,853 Speaker 2: remembering this is going to be the franchise that has 63 00:03:31,013 --> 00:03:34,973 Speaker 2: Ardi Savilla during next year's Rugby World Cup build up, 64 00:03:35,213 --> 00:03:36,653 Speaker 2: so they need to manage him well. They need to 65 00:03:36,653 --> 00:03:39,333 Speaker 2: have the right coach in charge. I think Orlando Sokai 66 00:03:39,413 --> 00:03:43,653 Speaker 2: would probably be a real contender for that role. Potentially 67 00:03:43,773 --> 00:03:46,613 Speaker 2: he's been around the traps for a bit and moved 68 00:03:46,693 --> 00:03:49,973 Speaker 2: up the ranks coach Wellington to an NPC title. Maybe 69 00:03:50,173 --> 00:03:53,813 Speaker 2: Selta mup Asuur former coach of Sarmore, could be in 70 00:03:53,853 --> 00:03:56,853 Speaker 2: the conversation as well. Maybe Tom Commentry wants to step 71 00:03:56,933 --> 00:03:59,373 Speaker 2: up to head coaching, but he's always been comfortable enough 72 00:03:59,413 --> 00:04:01,853 Speaker 2: as an assistant. But I think from one to sake 73 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:03,293 Speaker 2: they need to get that right and I think it's 74 00:04:03,293 --> 00:04:07,493 Speaker 2: probably better having that pacifica voice leading the team as 75 00:04:07,493 --> 00:04:09,773 Speaker 2: they head into twenty seven and beyond. So watch the 76 00:04:09,773 --> 00:04:14,013 Speaker 2: space Tartanaki also having to figure out their coach as 77 00:04:14,053 --> 00:04:17,653 Speaker 2: well for the NPC. Although Neil Barnes did do the 78 00:04:17,693 --> 00:04:21,653 Speaker 2: launch video. The draw video very entertaining. If you haven't 79 00:04:21,693 --> 00:04:25,893 Speaker 2: seen it, search up the Tartanuki social media and hunted out. 80 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:29,333 Speaker 2: He draws every team that scheduled to play this year. 81 00:04:29,333 --> 00:04:30,893 Speaker 2: It's pretty special while worth the watch, but he of 82 00:04:30,973 --> 00:04:34,173 Speaker 2: course will not be coaching them. We'll get into NPC 83 00:04:34,333 --> 00:04:36,973 Speaker 2: in just a moment. Mark Kelly Fervent fan of Bay 84 00:04:36,973 --> 00:04:38,893 Speaker 2: of Plenty, is going to jump on give us his 85 00:04:38,933 --> 00:04:41,533 Speaker 2: take on the NPC draw which threw up a few surprises. 86 00:04:41,773 --> 00:04:44,013 Speaker 2: But first on Rugby directs bit of a treat for you, 87 00:04:44,173 --> 00:04:46,533 Speaker 2: we're going to hear from Peyton Spencer the Blues Fallback, 88 00:04:46,613 --> 00:04:49,573 Speaker 2: joining us on the podcast ahead of his first start 89 00:04:49,693 --> 00:04:52,013 Speaker 2: in the Blues Jersey and fifteen against the Fiji and 90 00:04:52,093 --> 00:04:55,413 Speaker 2: Drewer on Saturday at Eden Park. All great pleasure to 91 00:04:55,453 --> 00:04:59,333 Speaker 2: be talking to Peyton Spencer on new Stalk zbb's Rugby 92 00:04:59,373 --> 00:05:03,613 Speaker 2: Direct podcast or Peyton, welcome to the show and congratulations 93 00:05:03,613 --> 00:05:07,173 Speaker 2: on making your debut last weekend. Has it sun Ken 94 00:05:07,213 --> 00:05:08,733 Speaker 2: that you now are super rug me play? 95 00:05:11,333 --> 00:05:12,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's so good yet to 96 00:05:12,773 --> 00:05:17,413 Speaker 3: be honest, Yeah, obviously a pretty pretty surreal and special moment, 97 00:05:18,413 --> 00:05:21,453 Speaker 3: not for not for just me but my family as well, 98 00:05:21,493 --> 00:05:25,373 Speaker 3: I guess, but yeah, just just proud and yes. 99 00:05:26,373 --> 00:05:27,933 Speaker 2: How did you feel you came through? I think it 100 00:05:27,973 --> 00:05:30,053 Speaker 2: was about twenty nine minutes half an hour. How did 101 00:05:30,093 --> 00:05:31,973 Speaker 2: you feel you came through that game against war Tis. 102 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:36,533 Speaker 3: Uh, Yeah, no, well, I wasn't expecting to get so 103 00:05:37,013 --> 00:05:39,573 Speaker 3: much minutes, to be honest, I was just on the 104 00:05:39,573 --> 00:05:43,373 Speaker 3: bench and then I didn't didn't realize that Zon went down, 105 00:05:43,973 --> 00:05:46,733 Speaker 3: and before I knew it, I was I was already 106 00:05:46,773 --> 00:05:49,253 Speaker 3: on the field. So I think I think it was 107 00:05:49,253 --> 00:05:50,813 Speaker 3: a pretty good thing. You know, it didn't give me 108 00:05:50,853 --> 00:05:56,013 Speaker 3: time to you know, focus on my nerves too much. Yeah, 109 00:05:56,293 --> 00:05:56,613 Speaker 3: did it. 110 00:05:56,573 --> 00:05:58,813 Speaker 2: Fly by once you're out there? Did it go fast? 111 00:06:00,773 --> 00:06:04,613 Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely, definitely. I just spoke to be out there, 112 00:06:04,653 --> 00:06:06,413 Speaker 3: so definitely when time time flew. 113 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:09,093 Speaker 2: You had to wait away while for for a super 114 00:06:09,133 --> 00:06:13,453 Speaker 2: rugby debut the last couple of years. You know, what's 115 00:06:13,493 --> 00:06:18,293 Speaker 2: the process been like to get to this point for you? 116 00:06:18,413 --> 00:06:21,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been you know, it's been a tough couple 117 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:26,373 Speaker 3: a couple of years, you know, with with injuries and whatnot. 118 00:06:28,213 --> 00:06:32,853 Speaker 3: But yeah, just you know, stayed in it and finally 119 00:06:32,853 --> 00:06:35,733 Speaker 3: managed to have a good, you know, pretty good preseason 120 00:06:37,253 --> 00:06:41,813 Speaker 3: this year. You know, finally gathered a bit of confidence 121 00:06:41,893 --> 00:06:45,213 Speaker 3: back and and yeah, just said full belief in my 122 00:06:45,253 --> 00:06:49,413 Speaker 3: ability and and yeah, managed to finally get that debut 123 00:06:49,493 --> 00:06:50,013 Speaker 3: under the belt. 124 00:06:50,093 --> 00:06:52,373 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and how did you feel as a team coming 125 00:06:52,373 --> 00:06:54,933 Speaker 2: off that one? You know, came from behind to win it. 126 00:06:55,773 --> 00:06:58,013 Speaker 2: Those are the games that you've got to take and 127 00:06:58,413 --> 00:07:01,173 Speaker 2: and claim, you know, very important competition points, aren't they? 128 00:07:02,173 --> 00:07:05,453 Speaker 3: Oh yeahred percent? Yeah it was. It was a massive 129 00:07:05,453 --> 00:07:08,573 Speaker 3: one for the boys obviously, you know, got we had 130 00:07:08,573 --> 00:07:10,533 Speaker 3: two weeks then until our by week, and we wanted 131 00:07:10,573 --> 00:07:14,413 Speaker 3: to we wanted to finish off strong, hopefully getting onto 132 00:07:14,453 --> 00:07:18,413 Speaker 3: the you know, top of that that leaderboard. So you 133 00:07:18,493 --> 00:07:21,253 Speaker 3: had to come come back from what twenty twenty odd 134 00:07:21,253 --> 00:07:25,133 Speaker 3: points down and to to want to end when when 135 00:07:25,173 --> 00:07:27,853 Speaker 3: I was a bonus point as well was now is massive. 136 00:07:28,333 --> 00:07:30,813 Speaker 2: And obviously a few changes this week as you play 137 00:07:30,893 --> 00:07:34,133 Speaker 2: the drawer, you're obviously getting a start. How exciting is 138 00:07:34,133 --> 00:07:35,773 Speaker 2: that prospect come Saturday night? 139 00:07:37,053 --> 00:07:41,133 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't too sure what 140 00:07:41,173 --> 00:07:43,693 Speaker 3: was going to happen with too naming, But yeah, when 141 00:07:43,693 --> 00:07:46,133 Speaker 3: I saw my fim my name in the in the 142 00:07:46,173 --> 00:07:50,373 Speaker 3: starting lineup, I was you know, you know obviously to 143 00:07:50,493 --> 00:07:53,813 Speaker 3: get that that privilege to put on the fifteen jersey. 144 00:07:55,573 --> 00:07:57,933 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm just gonna go out there and do 145 00:07:57,933 --> 00:07:59,693 Speaker 3: do what I can do. My best and yeah, just 146 00:07:59,973 --> 00:08:00,933 Speaker 3: enjoy the moment. 147 00:08:00,853 --> 00:08:03,453 Speaker 2: With your listens from last week that you'll take into 148 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:07,773 Speaker 2: to this week. What specifically you're looking to improve on individually. 149 00:08:11,253 --> 00:08:13,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not too not too sure. I have a 150 00:08:14,013 --> 00:08:17,853 Speaker 3: few things. I feel like, just finding my feet, finding 151 00:08:17,853 --> 00:08:19,773 Speaker 3: my feet still, you know, getting used to the speed 152 00:08:20,293 --> 00:08:26,293 Speaker 3: the physicality of of super rugby. So yeah, hopefully you 153 00:08:26,453 --> 00:08:29,293 Speaker 3: find in the first first few few minutes. 154 00:08:29,333 --> 00:08:31,893 Speaker 2: And then yeah, on the way, what do you expect 155 00:08:31,893 --> 00:08:34,133 Speaker 2: from the drawer this week? They're being sort of wee 156 00:08:34,213 --> 00:08:36,493 Speaker 2: bit up and down this season, but they can be 157 00:08:36,493 --> 00:08:38,813 Speaker 2: pretty dangerous when they get born hand. 158 00:08:39,493 --> 00:08:41,893 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like you never know what you're 159 00:08:41,893 --> 00:08:47,013 Speaker 3: gonna get with Fuji. Obviously, their their skills and skill 160 00:08:47,133 --> 00:08:51,613 Speaker 3: skills and everything is you know, next level obviously some 161 00:08:51,653 --> 00:08:56,213 Speaker 3: big boys, so physicality is going to be a big one. 162 00:08:58,013 --> 00:09:00,053 Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like, yeah, we're just focusing on 163 00:09:00,253 --> 00:09:02,453 Speaker 3: focusing on our game. You know what we need to do, 164 00:09:02,533 --> 00:09:04,333 Speaker 3: We know what we need to do to win, obviously, 165 00:09:06,013 --> 00:09:07,933 Speaker 3: but yeah, we know, we know some of their strengths, 166 00:09:09,133 --> 00:09:12,413 Speaker 3: so obviously will be looking out for that. But yeah, 167 00:09:12,413 --> 00:09:14,653 Speaker 3: pretty much just mainly focus on on what we have 168 00:09:14,773 --> 00:09:16,293 Speaker 3: to do and hopefully get a job done. 169 00:09:16,613 --> 00:09:19,293 Speaker 2: And how special seeing on the TV coverage last week 170 00:09:19,333 --> 00:09:22,333 Speaker 2: to have your parents over there in Sydney for your debut. 171 00:09:23,893 --> 00:09:26,973 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, obviously it was. It was special heads 172 00:09:27,573 --> 00:09:32,853 Speaker 3: you know, all of my family over over to watch. Now, 173 00:09:32,853 --> 00:09:36,053 Speaker 3: it was very special to have them there, you know, 174 00:09:36,053 --> 00:09:39,493 Speaker 3: obviously watching my debut. To see them after the game, 175 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:41,973 Speaker 3: you know, go to spend time with them, just to 176 00:09:41,973 --> 00:09:45,053 Speaker 3: share the moment with with them was you know, it's 177 00:09:45,093 --> 00:09:46,333 Speaker 3: cool as a very special moment. 178 00:09:46,693 --> 00:09:48,533 Speaker 2: And and just personally do you see yourself as a 179 00:09:48,533 --> 00:09:50,293 Speaker 2: as a teen to fifteen in the way you can 180 00:09:50,333 --> 00:09:53,253 Speaker 2: play with you primarily sort of focusing on on fullback 181 00:09:53,293 --> 00:09:53,613 Speaker 2: for now? 182 00:09:56,293 --> 00:10:01,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, for now I would say I'm primarily focusing on 183 00:10:01,293 --> 00:10:05,653 Speaker 3: on being out the back at full back, fullback or wing. 184 00:10:05,733 --> 00:10:08,453 Speaker 3: You know, I haven't played. I mean I wouldn't say 185 00:10:08,533 --> 00:10:12,093 Speaker 3: no to plane sin, but yeah, yeah, right now I'm 186 00:10:12,733 --> 00:10:15,053 Speaker 3: focusing on being being on the outside. 187 00:10:15,613 --> 00:10:17,853 Speaker 2: Good man, Well, wishing the best of luck from fullback 188 00:10:17,893 --> 00:10:19,973 Speaker 2: this week against the Drawer. Thanks to your time, Peyton. 189 00:10:20,053 --> 00:10:21,773 Speaker 2: Nice to catch up and best of luck this week. 190 00:10:21,813 --> 00:10:22,493 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. 191 00:10:22,693 --> 00:10:25,013 Speaker 2: Great to catch up with Peyton Spencer. What a nice 192 00:10:25,013 --> 00:10:27,933 Speaker 2: shack man and really looking forward to see where he 193 00:10:27,973 --> 00:10:31,893 Speaker 2: goes on his Rugby Jersey junior brother in the next week, 194 00:10:31,933 --> 00:10:34,093 Speaker 2: while and looking forward to seeing get his first start 195 00:10:34,133 --> 00:10:37,213 Speaker 2: on Saturday live commentary of course of that game on 196 00:10:37,293 --> 00:10:42,213 Speaker 2: gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Let's get into the NPC and 197 00:10:42,533 --> 00:10:45,613 Speaker 2: the draw that has been released and look a few surprises. 198 00:10:45,653 --> 00:10:49,773 Speaker 2: We've gone away from the provincial grounds that have especially 199 00:10:49,773 --> 00:10:53,013 Speaker 2: for Wellington been their home for the last couple of seasons, 200 00:10:53,013 --> 00:10:55,573 Speaker 2: played at Jerry Collins Stadium and port Or for a 201 00:10:55,573 --> 00:10:57,493 Speaker 2: couple of seasons. They're playing all their home games at 202 00:10:57,573 --> 00:11:01,773 Speaker 2: Henry Stadium this year, which seems suboptimal. I'd have to 203 00:11:01,813 --> 00:11:04,733 Speaker 2: be honest. Now, at Jerry Colin Stadium it provided a 204 00:11:04,773 --> 00:11:06,693 Speaker 2: little bit of an issue because they couldn't have games 205 00:11:06,733 --> 00:11:09,253 Speaker 2: at night there and that flows on to the rest 206 00:11:09,253 --> 00:11:13,053 Speaker 2: of the drawer. I'm sure. But you know, we've cried 207 00:11:13,093 --> 00:11:15,053 Speaker 2: out for years for the NPC to go to smaller 208 00:11:15,133 --> 00:11:18,573 Speaker 2: venues and now they seem to be going back. Auckland 209 00:11:18,613 --> 00:11:20,453 Speaker 2: Rugby have yet to announce whithery're attacking a game to 210 00:11:20,493 --> 00:11:22,533 Speaker 2: or high school. Canterbury is going to play all their 211 00:11:22,573 --> 00:11:26,373 Speaker 2: games in one New Zealand stadium in the center of 212 00:11:26,413 --> 00:11:28,253 Speaker 2: the city rather than take a game to rng Eura, 213 00:11:28,293 --> 00:11:31,293 Speaker 2: which they have in the path. So look on the 214 00:11:31,293 --> 00:11:33,573 Speaker 2: surface of it, pretty disappointing what we've seen there. I'm 215 00:11:33,573 --> 00:11:36,413 Speaker 2: sure there are legitimate reasons for it, but we've been 216 00:11:36,413 --> 00:11:39,613 Speaker 2: crying out for years Mark around taking these games, especially 217 00:11:39,613 --> 00:11:43,093 Speaker 2: the ones in the big centers, to smaller venues, and 218 00:11:43,413 --> 00:11:45,053 Speaker 2: now we seem to have gone back to the start. 219 00:11:45,053 --> 00:11:46,293 Speaker 2: What he made to the draw. 220 00:11:46,533 --> 00:11:49,093 Speaker 4: It's idiol elliot, I'll tell you that much Afray. It's 221 00:11:49,173 --> 00:11:52,493 Speaker 4: as you said, that one Canterbury game that they're playing 222 00:11:52,573 --> 00:11:57,253 Speaker 4: Ring Euro it's a sellout. It's incredible scenes. Jerry Colin 223 00:11:57,293 --> 00:11:59,773 Speaker 4: Stadium has been a phenomenal place. It seems to always 224 00:11:59,853 --> 00:12:03,013 Speaker 4: just absolutely bucket down with rain when they do play there. 225 00:12:03,413 --> 00:12:05,933 Speaker 4: And I've been to the last couple of Auckland games 226 00:12:05,933 --> 00:12:09,133 Speaker 4: at Auckland Grammar and they're still only sort of four 227 00:12:09,173 --> 00:12:11,973 Speaker 4: or five thousand, but it feels like a it feels 228 00:12:11,973 --> 00:12:15,013 Speaker 4: like a proper sort of big crowd, and I there's 229 00:12:15,333 --> 00:12:17,213 Speaker 4: lots of list as, no big bay of plenty steamers. 230 00:12:17,253 --> 00:12:20,453 Speaker 4: Then we played the toting of Domain. I think our 231 00:12:21,053 --> 00:12:22,853 Speaker 4: capacity is about four and a half thousand, and it 232 00:12:22,853 --> 00:12:24,933 Speaker 4: feels like it's ten, twelve to fifteen sort of thing 233 00:12:25,533 --> 00:12:28,053 Speaker 4: with the draw for just speaking as a Steamers fan, 234 00:12:28,093 --> 00:12:30,213 Speaker 4: we've actually only got I think I believe two games 235 00:12:30,213 --> 00:12:32,573 Speaker 4: at the toting Of domain this year. The rest of 236 00:12:32,613 --> 00:12:34,893 Speaker 4: them are in Roade Vegas at the Honey Pit Rotoro 237 00:12:34,933 --> 00:12:37,653 Speaker 4: International Stadium, and again just because we don't have lights 238 00:12:37,653 --> 00:12:41,533 Speaker 4: in Totinger, but you'll see the crowds drop off probably 239 00:12:41,613 --> 00:12:45,373 Speaker 4: eighty percent ninety because nobody in Rotoroa really supports the bay. 240 00:12:45,493 --> 00:12:47,373 Speaker 4: Nobody makes that fifty minute drive. 241 00:12:48,653 --> 00:12:50,853 Speaker 2: But so that's that just quart a gouple of strays. 242 00:12:50,893 --> 00:12:53,413 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, no I don't I don't mind Roada Vegas, 243 00:12:54,293 --> 00:12:58,653 Speaker 4: but it's yeah, the schedule's weird. There's a couple of 244 00:12:58,693 --> 00:13:00,453 Speaker 4: two or five games and then they'll just have a 245 00:13:00,453 --> 00:13:02,893 Speaker 4: big gap from that two to seven and there'll be 246 00:13:02,933 --> 00:13:06,333 Speaker 4: two games at ten past seven. And I do get 247 00:13:06,613 --> 00:13:10,893 Speaker 4: slightly worried with Tea and said sort of now producing 248 00:13:10,893 --> 00:13:13,893 Speaker 4: it and chucking on their platforms with sort of the 249 00:13:13,973 --> 00:13:16,853 Speaker 4: last what's particularly this last series with the black Cats 250 00:13:16,853 --> 00:13:19,493 Speaker 4: black Caps South Africa, it seemed like they really took 251 00:13:19,533 --> 00:13:23,373 Speaker 4: their hands off the wheels as a production value. So 252 00:13:23,973 --> 00:13:26,413 Speaker 4: I hope it's a lot better than what they've kind 253 00:13:26,413 --> 00:13:29,733 Speaker 4: of done with cricket in the last year. But yeah, 254 00:13:29,773 --> 00:13:31,493 Speaker 4: exciting that's free to there. What is the first time 255 00:13:31,493 --> 00:13:35,133 Speaker 4: in thirty years, Yeah, of the MPC. Yeah, so there's 256 00:13:35,173 --> 00:13:38,133 Speaker 4: a lot to play for. But it doesn't make any 257 00:13:38,173 --> 00:13:41,093 Speaker 4: sense to me why teams like Auckland and Wellington have 258 00:13:41,213 --> 00:13:44,533 Speaker 4: gone back to thirty thousand seat plus stadiums when they 259 00:13:44,573 --> 00:13:47,013 Speaker 4: only get five to seven thousand people. 260 00:13:47,133 --> 00:13:48,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was such a great year of NPC 261 00:13:49,453 --> 00:13:51,093 Speaker 2: last year as well. People think it's the best one 262 00:13:51,093 --> 00:13:53,493 Speaker 2: in the years and it was genuinely it was great 263 00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:56,533 Speaker 2: contests and highly entertaining rugby and a lot of that 264 00:13:56,573 --> 00:13:58,853 Speaker 2: is because it's played during the day. You know, the 265 00:13:58,893 --> 00:14:00,853 Speaker 2: games at night, you know, just don't have that switch 266 00:14:00,893 --> 00:14:04,053 Speaker 2: on factor and all the attendance factor. I would have 267 00:14:04,053 --> 00:14:06,493 Speaker 2: been putting more games in the day. You can stagger them. 268 00:14:06,493 --> 00:14:07,813 Speaker 2: You can have a one o'clock kick off, you have 269 00:14:07,853 --> 00:14:10,213 Speaker 2: a three o'clock kickoff in maybe a four thirty or 270 00:14:10,253 --> 00:14:11,213 Speaker 2: five o'clock kickoff. 271 00:14:11,373 --> 00:14:13,613 Speaker 4: You couldn't agree more. And it's one of those things. 272 00:14:13,653 --> 00:14:15,973 Speaker 4: Particularly in the last what ten to fifteen years, the 273 00:14:16,413 --> 00:14:20,653 Speaker 4: Super rugby sort of provinces haven't been sort of I 274 00:14:20,733 --> 00:14:24,053 Speaker 4: say shotgunning the players sort of thing like now, if 275 00:14:24,093 --> 00:14:25,893 Speaker 4: you've grown up in Total or we've grown up in 276 00:14:25,973 --> 00:14:28,733 Speaker 4: Napier or Tartanaki, you actually go home and play for 277 00:14:28,773 --> 00:14:32,093 Speaker 4: your province now and you've seen that with the results Auckland. 278 00:14:32,133 --> 00:14:34,133 Speaker 4: What haven't made the top eight in the last two years. 279 00:14:34,253 --> 00:14:37,053 Speaker 4: I think they've crushed the format New Zealand rugby and 280 00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:40,093 Speaker 4: with the quarterfinals and all that sort of stuff, but 281 00:14:40,373 --> 00:14:42,813 Speaker 4: they just haven't sort of worked out the venues where 282 00:14:42,933 --> 00:14:45,613 Speaker 4: I believe if there's an opportunity to play in a 283 00:14:45,653 --> 00:14:48,613 Speaker 4: stadium less than sort of fifteen thousand people, that's where 284 00:14:48,693 --> 00:14:49,893 Speaker 4: you should be playing every time. 285 00:14:49,893 --> 00:14:53,333 Speaker 2: Aukland should be playing at Trusts Stadium. They should not 286 00:14:53,333 --> 00:14:54,013 Speaker 2: be playing at Eden. 287 00:14:54,013 --> 00:14:56,813 Speaker 4: Come with how many great first fifteen venues there are, 288 00:14:56,853 --> 00:15:00,573 Speaker 4: from Grandma to dilwor the Kings to Saint Kence. You 289 00:15:00,613 --> 00:15:03,053 Speaker 4: could check that on. It'd be great viewing on television 290 00:15:03,053 --> 00:15:05,933 Speaker 4: with the estory in the background. Like there's plenty of options. 291 00:15:05,973 --> 00:15:08,813 Speaker 4: And I just don't understand when the last time I 292 00:15:08,813 --> 00:15:11,573 Speaker 4: went to Auckland MPC game was a couple of years 293 00:15:11,573 --> 00:15:15,333 Speaker 4: ago and against Southland, and one stand was you could 294 00:15:15,373 --> 00:15:17,053 Speaker 4: sit there for the Rugby and the other stand there's 295 00:15:17,053 --> 00:15:20,933 Speaker 4: an art show on and it's unbelievable. But there was 296 00:15:20,933 --> 00:15:22,973 Speaker 4: the day that the triple head with a Heartland game. 297 00:15:23,013 --> 00:15:24,493 Speaker 4: I think it was a fair Apartment Cup and then 298 00:15:24,493 --> 00:15:29,253 Speaker 4: into an NPC. But yes, strange strange decisions, but the 299 00:15:29,293 --> 00:15:31,253 Speaker 4: one I just throw out my favorite game. I'm already 300 00:15:31,293 --> 00:15:35,133 Speaker 4: looking forward to Round two. Shield up for grabs, Otaga Canterbury. 301 00:15:35,613 --> 00:15:38,133 Speaker 4: Canterbury take that shield, that'd be great. I love that 302 00:15:38,133 --> 00:15:40,493 Speaker 4: they're playing the Steamers the following week when you get 303 00:15:40,493 --> 00:15:43,013 Speaker 4: your hotes up. We don't have a great track there 304 00:15:43,253 --> 00:15:45,173 Speaker 4: playing in Canterbury. I think we've won about twice in 305 00:15:45,253 --> 00:15:45,853 Speaker 4: twenty years. 306 00:15:45,893 --> 00:15:48,613 Speaker 2: But once it gets to one New Zealand Stadium made 307 00:15:48,653 --> 00:15:49,973 Speaker 2: it stay fortress. 308 00:15:50,093 --> 00:15:52,133 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I actually for the first couple of weeks, 309 00:15:52,133 --> 00:15:54,093 Speaker 4: I think that's going to be well supported down there. 310 00:15:54,213 --> 00:15:55,613 Speaker 4: Canterbury Rugby, I think so. 311 00:15:55,813 --> 00:15:58,693 Speaker 2: And look, I'm I'm into minds like I think it's 312 00:15:58,693 --> 00:16:01,253 Speaker 2: going to be a big NBC sorry, big super season 313 00:16:01,293 --> 00:16:04,213 Speaker 2: once it kicks off there with Super Round. But I 314 00:16:04,213 --> 00:16:05,813 Speaker 2: think for the first year or so, there's still going 315 00:16:05,853 --> 00:16:08,213 Speaker 2: to be that novelty factor of going to the stadium. Absolutely, 316 00:16:08,373 --> 00:16:10,893 Speaker 2: it may be physical out maybe by the second year 317 00:16:10,933 --> 00:16:12,973 Speaker 2: and when NPC twenty twenty seven rolls around, it may 318 00:16:13,013 --> 00:16:15,453 Speaker 2: be an issue, but I think it's it's going to 319 00:16:15,453 --> 00:16:17,773 Speaker 2: be a success down there and can't wait. And incidentally, 320 00:16:17,813 --> 00:16:20,253 Speaker 2: before we wrap this up, not on NPC, but they 321 00:16:20,253 --> 00:16:24,973 Speaker 2: have an Outscribe playing the halftime show of the opening 322 00:16:25,253 --> 00:16:27,173 Speaker 2: Crusader's Warritars game in the Super Round. 323 00:16:27,293 --> 00:16:27,693 Speaker 3: Huge. 324 00:16:28,093 --> 00:16:31,613 Speaker 4: I can't wait there. It's one of Canterbury's favorite sons, 325 00:16:31,693 --> 00:16:32,413 Speaker 4: isn't it. Well. 326 00:16:33,053 --> 00:16:36,013 Speaker 2: His first album is definitely his most successful, was called 327 00:16:36,053 --> 00:16:36,733 Speaker 2: The Crusader. 328 00:16:36,813 --> 00:16:39,653 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it makes sense. It's like the Warriors bringing 329 00:16:39,653 --> 00:16:41,093 Speaker 4: out Savage home. 330 00:16:41,053 --> 00:16:42,173 Speaker 2: Game into that stuff. 331 00:16:42,453 --> 00:16:45,813 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they don't do it enough in Super Rugby. 332 00:16:45,893 --> 00:16:47,613 Speaker 4: I know they've kind of worked out in the last 333 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:50,653 Speaker 4: particularly this season with the sort of kid zones and whatnot. 334 00:16:50,693 --> 00:16:52,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look I like the Exponents playing at the 335 00:16:53,013 --> 00:16:54,613 Speaker 2: Chiefs home game like they did in ninety six. That 336 00:16:54,693 --> 00:16:57,813 Speaker 2: was cool, But yeah, they've no no on You know, 337 00:16:58,173 --> 00:17:01,493 Speaker 2: Scribe is twenty years from his heyday, but he's still 338 00:17:01,533 --> 00:17:04,173 Speaker 2: resonant with a lot of the people, especially the Three. 339 00:17:04,373 --> 00:17:09,213 Speaker 4: Usually some of his songs are still when they're on a. 340 00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:13,413 Speaker 2: If any How, I got the skills set that's the 341 00:17:13,453 --> 00:17:16,933 Speaker 2: saying that has written exactly exactly right. Enough about scribe, 342 00:17:17,053 --> 00:17:20,253 Speaker 2: let's get into some tipping. Liam and I both got 343 00:17:20,293 --> 00:17:24,973 Speaker 2: four each last weekend. He picked the Chiefs to beat 344 00:17:24,973 --> 00:17:27,813 Speaker 2: the Brumbies. I picked the drawer to beat the Reds. 345 00:17:27,853 --> 00:17:30,333 Speaker 2: Otherwise we were the same four or four lims ahead 346 00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:33,173 Speaker 2: by one and the overall standings. Although having said that, 347 00:17:33,533 --> 00:17:36,373 Speaker 2: Liam's tips have been done by mules on occasion the season, 348 00:17:36,373 --> 00:17:38,053 Speaker 2: and now they're going to be done by you. So 349 00:17:38,573 --> 00:17:40,973 Speaker 2: a lot apprecia for Liam to maintain that slender one 350 00:17:41,013 --> 00:17:44,533 Speaker 2: point lead. We start with Mowana Pacifica against the Highlanders 351 00:17:44,653 --> 00:17:48,213 Speaker 2: seven o five on Friday night. Commentating this game alongsid 352 00:17:48,213 --> 00:17:51,293 Speaker 2: pet A Latini for a Gold Sport on iHeartRadio. Hasn't 353 00:17:51,293 --> 00:17:53,973 Speaker 2: been a flash couple of weeks for Mowana Pacifica ship 354 00:17:54,013 --> 00:17:56,973 Speaker 2: fifty seven I think it was against Mowana after that 355 00:17:57,053 --> 00:18:00,653 Speaker 2: big loss to the Western Force and then the Hurricanes, 356 00:18:01,213 --> 00:18:04,893 Speaker 2: they're in a bit dire straits Mowana. Can they bounce 357 00:18:04,933 --> 00:18:06,813 Speaker 2: back though against the Highlanders. 358 00:18:07,213 --> 00:18:10,493 Speaker 4: Well, talk about struggling. Highlands are right up there as well. 359 00:18:10,773 --> 00:18:13,613 Speaker 4: What a record breaking fifty to seven loss last week 360 00:18:13,653 --> 00:18:17,133 Speaker 4: against the Really and they scored first. Yeah it was 361 00:18:17,373 --> 00:18:19,573 Speaker 4: so there was fifty unanswered. I think that the largest 362 00:18:19,613 --> 00:18:21,213 Speaker 4: loss ever in Super Rugby. 363 00:18:22,653 --> 00:18:24,133 Speaker 2: Well they drop for our fuck a Tabor for this 364 00:18:24,173 --> 00:18:24,653 Speaker 2: week as. 365 00:18:24,533 --> 00:18:25,413 Speaker 4: Well, interesting was it? 366 00:18:25,733 --> 00:18:28,693 Speaker 2: The younger is coming in at half back, Adam Lennox 367 00:18:28,693 --> 00:18:31,893 Speaker 2: off the bench. They've got a lot of injuries at Locke. 368 00:18:33,093 --> 00:18:35,933 Speaker 2: No Lucas Casey this week. What do you reckon? 369 00:18:36,013 --> 00:18:39,293 Speaker 4: I think the Landers will do it. My only issue 370 00:18:39,373 --> 00:18:42,973 Speaker 4: would be as currently in Auckland according this on the Thursday, 371 00:18:43,053 --> 00:18:46,213 Speaker 4: terrible weather. They used to sort of inside stuff. I 372 00:18:46,213 --> 00:18:49,013 Speaker 4: know they're Southern men whatnot, but they play in Forsyth 373 00:18:49,053 --> 00:18:52,533 Speaker 4: Bar where there's a roof. I think they Highlanders will 374 00:18:52,613 --> 00:18:54,733 Speaker 4: squeak by. I'll be a one to ten, one to 375 00:18:54,773 --> 00:18:57,213 Speaker 4: ten victory twelve. Sorry for the Landers. 376 00:18:57,253 --> 00:18:59,093 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to go more one to Pacifica. I 377 00:18:59,093 --> 00:19:02,293 Speaker 2: think there's too many injuries there for the Highlanders, although 378 00:19:02,373 --> 00:19:03,893 Speaker 2: Moe has got a couple of Smissy tip or Di 379 00:19:04,013 --> 00:19:05,573 Speaker 2: Low is out injured. But I'm going to go more 380 00:19:05,613 --> 00:19:06,133 Speaker 2: one at home. 381 00:19:06,293 --> 00:19:10,533 Speaker 4: Just the X factor, Caleb Tangata's unbelievable this season and 382 00:19:11,613 --> 00:19:13,133 Speaker 4: on that and that sort of back through, I think 383 00:19:13,133 --> 00:19:15,653 Speaker 4: they've still got something that can break open games and 384 00:19:15,693 --> 00:19:17,973 Speaker 4: so that it will be close. Mine will hang around 385 00:19:17,973 --> 00:19:20,213 Speaker 4: to about sixtieth minute and then run out of gas. 386 00:19:20,253 --> 00:19:22,773 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Brumbies. Wata's nine to thirty five. 387 00:19:23,053 --> 00:19:23,613 Speaker 4: Brumbies. 388 00:19:23,973 --> 00:19:26,253 Speaker 2: You can Yeah, I can't get past the Brumbies. Look, 389 00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:30,213 Speaker 2: the more they collect wins like this, the high they're 390 00:19:30,213 --> 00:19:31,213 Speaker 2: going to be on the table at the end of 391 00:19:31,213 --> 00:19:33,933 Speaker 2: the season. That's always been potentially their issues that they 392 00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:36,413 Speaker 2: haven't finished in the top two. They don't play that 393 00:19:36,453 --> 00:19:37,813 Speaker 2: extra week at home, they have to go on the 394 00:19:37,853 --> 00:19:40,413 Speaker 2: road in week two. The longer they can play at home, 395 00:19:40,493 --> 00:19:42,453 Speaker 2: the more dangerous start. It's kind of like the Crusaders. 396 00:19:42,493 --> 00:19:44,013 Speaker 2: You give them a home game, maybe not so much 397 00:19:44,053 --> 00:19:46,213 Speaker 2: with the new stadium, but no one wants to go 398 00:19:46,333 --> 00:19:48,733 Speaker 2: to a Canberra in June and June. 399 00:19:48,853 --> 00:19:51,053 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And you kind of saw that, not that 400 00:19:51,093 --> 00:19:53,013 Speaker 4: it was in June last week, but twenty four to 401 00:19:53,013 --> 00:19:56,613 Speaker 4: seven down against the Chiefs and Slippers, historic two three 402 00:19:56,733 --> 00:19:59,453 Speaker 4: game whatever it was, and they didn't give up. It 403 00:19:59,493 --> 00:20:01,813 Speaker 4: was bang bang tried two tries in three minutes and 404 00:20:01,853 --> 00:20:04,973 Speaker 4: then yeah, and they've kind of they had that huge 405 00:20:05,013 --> 00:20:08,293 Speaker 4: victory against the Crusaders and then that was massive again 406 00:20:08,413 --> 00:20:10,613 Speaker 4: in against the Chess. Yeah, I'm going Brumby. It's just yeah, 407 00:20:10,613 --> 00:20:12,253 Speaker 4: it's it's a fortress over there. 408 00:20:12,293 --> 00:20:15,093 Speaker 2: I'm with young Brumbies Hurricanes. Read this is at the 409 00:20:15,133 --> 00:20:19,613 Speaker 2: aforementioned Henry Stadium in Wellington for thirty five Saturday. Ross 410 00:20:19,613 --> 00:20:21,213 Speaker 2: Bond and Matt Buck have the call for you on 411 00:20:21,253 --> 00:20:22,773 Speaker 2: gold Sport and iHeart Radio. 412 00:20:22,573 --> 00:20:26,893 Speaker 4: The Happy Couple of Wellington. 413 00:20:26,973 --> 00:20:27,413 Speaker 3: That's right. 414 00:20:27,573 --> 00:20:29,893 Speaker 4: No, I think your Hurricanes at this point of the season. 415 00:20:29,933 --> 00:20:33,133 Speaker 4: What round seven are the form team, the favorite team 416 00:20:33,173 --> 00:20:36,813 Speaker 4: for me to win, to win the title. Yeah, I'm 417 00:20:36,853 --> 00:20:39,813 Speaker 4: going Hurricanes. Then would kill you if you and I 418 00:20:39,813 --> 00:20:43,173 Speaker 4: was thinking about just going all sort of underdogs just 419 00:20:43,213 --> 00:20:47,053 Speaker 4: to really screw with Liams. But no, I think Hurricanes 420 00:20:47,373 --> 00:20:49,693 Speaker 4: will do it easy Blues draw. I suspect the Blues 421 00:20:49,693 --> 00:20:52,733 Speaker 4: will do this easy draw. Don't travel particularly well. The 422 00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:55,373 Speaker 4: Blues have a couple of injuries. Papa is out, so 423 00:20:55,413 --> 00:20:58,333 Speaker 4: two two is out, Sullivan is out, They've got Peyton 424 00:20:58,373 --> 00:21:01,013 Speaker 4: Spencer starting, who we heard from before on the pod. 425 00:21:01,973 --> 00:21:03,133 Speaker 2: But I think they'll be too got. 426 00:21:02,973 --> 00:21:06,373 Speaker 4: At home, Yes, and it could one think that could 427 00:21:06,373 --> 00:21:10,013 Speaker 4: help for you. It's as mentioned before, it's absolutely teeming 428 00:21:10,053 --> 00:21:12,693 Speaker 4: down in Auckland currently whether it's not looking great on Friday, 429 00:21:12,773 --> 00:21:16,333 Speaker 4: and that's pretty much Lauatoka in a nutshell not probably 430 00:21:16,373 --> 00:21:18,973 Speaker 4: not one hundred percent humidity that they're used to. Yeah, 431 00:21:19,013 --> 00:21:21,253 Speaker 4: but yeah, the Blues will. They had a bit of 432 00:21:21,293 --> 00:21:24,253 Speaker 4: a scare last week against the Wortars and maybe that 433 00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:26,773 Speaker 4: sort of second half might have sort of kicked their 434 00:21:26,813 --> 00:21:29,013 Speaker 4: season back into tracks. So yeah, I'll be going bluesing 435 00:21:29,013 --> 00:21:29,533 Speaker 4: that one as well. 436 00:21:29,613 --> 00:21:32,093 Speaker 2: And the final game of the round Force the Chiefs. 437 00:21:33,253 --> 00:21:38,053 Speaker 2: This is in Perth on sayat Today Night Malcolm Jordan 438 00:21:38,133 --> 00:21:43,093 Speaker 2: with the call for you of that one. I think 439 00:21:43,133 --> 00:21:45,493 Speaker 2: the Chiefs win, but I think the Force will give 440 00:21:45,533 --> 00:21:47,933 Speaker 2: them a little bit of a scare. That Force I 441 00:21:48,013 --> 00:21:50,573 Speaker 2: have Zach Lomax. They don't have a lot about them necessarily, 442 00:21:50,613 --> 00:21:53,293 Speaker 2: but I just think two weeks on the road for 443 00:21:53,373 --> 00:21:56,133 Speaker 2: the Chiefs that sort of thing. I know they'll be 444 00:21:56,133 --> 00:21:58,573 Speaker 2: frustrated and probably come out hissing after last week, but 445 00:21:58,573 --> 00:22:01,013 Speaker 2: they've got a few injuries. You know, Daniel Rohn has 446 00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:03,613 Speaker 2: returned home to Bova's returned home. They're not the only one. 447 00:22:03,693 --> 00:22:07,693 Speaker 2: So I think the Chiefs win, but I'm hesitant to 448 00:22:07,733 --> 00:22:09,573 Speaker 2: go through plus at this point in time. 449 00:22:09,693 --> 00:22:13,813 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really excited to put my blue and gold 450 00:22:14,173 --> 00:22:17,373 Speaker 4: eye patch on Arcoy's getting a start at Lock. I 451 00:22:17,413 --> 00:22:21,973 Speaker 4: think I mean the Force Colors he was last year. 452 00:22:22,013 --> 00:22:24,173 Speaker 4: He was in the sort of realm of almost being 453 00:22:24,213 --> 00:22:25,773 Speaker 4: caught up to the All Blacks. He was called up 454 00:22:25,773 --> 00:22:28,733 Speaker 4: for the late into squads. At some point. It's finally 455 00:22:28,733 --> 00:22:32,653 Speaker 4: getting a proper go starting and he hasn't looked great 456 00:22:32,693 --> 00:22:35,893 Speaker 4: to start the LB first, to admit that. And also 457 00:22:36,093 --> 00:22:39,013 Speaker 4: Leroy Carter other steaming and that's a player that like 458 00:22:39,093 --> 00:22:40,613 Speaker 4: you might not think he's plaid there a lot, but 459 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:43,453 Speaker 4: for Steamers he's played there half a dozen times. Actually 460 00:22:43,493 --> 00:22:46,933 Speaker 4: Round one of NPC last year. I actually believe he 461 00:22:47,013 --> 00:22:50,413 Speaker 4: almost ruined David Haveli's All Blacks career because he ran 462 00:22:50,413 --> 00:22:52,893 Speaker 4: around them on two separate occasions to score in a 463 00:22:52,893 --> 00:22:55,333 Speaker 4: massive win for the Steamers in round one. And I 464 00:22:55,413 --> 00:22:58,453 Speaker 4: love it. I think he's I've been huge on this 465 00:22:58,533 --> 00:23:01,613 Speaker 4: hybrid player and we don't quite have one year in 466 00:23:02,053 --> 00:23:04,893 Speaker 4: Super rugby in New Zealand or an Indian rugby at all. 467 00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:06,773 Speaker 4: And I think he can play half back. Meagine him 468 00:23:06,773 --> 00:23:11,813 Speaker 4: at thirteen. Perfect player isn't just keep playing wherever somebody 469 00:23:11,853 --> 00:23:14,133 Speaker 4: gets injured or not playing well or whatever the cases. 470 00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:16,453 Speaker 2: I think there are questions around his defense and his 471 00:23:16,573 --> 00:23:20,093 Speaker 2: high ball ability on the wing, but boy, he's got 472 00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:21,813 Speaker 2: more pace than you can shake his stick. 473 00:23:21,653 --> 00:23:23,533 Speaker 4: Aut and he's strong and he loves getting in the 474 00:23:23,573 --> 00:23:26,853 Speaker 4: ruck and more of this. Yeah, it's what they call 475 00:23:26,893 --> 00:23:30,493 Speaker 4: him bumper. But yeah, I'm very, very excited to see 476 00:23:30,573 --> 00:23:33,413 Speaker 4: him and also just to keep on this Babel any 477 00:23:33,813 --> 00:23:36,533 Speaker 4: Steamers chat. Great to hear Emmony now that I was 478 00:23:36,893 --> 00:23:39,653 Speaker 4: resigned for a couple more years as well. I don't 479 00:23:39,693 --> 00:23:41,333 Speaker 4: know how much he'll play for the Steamers in the 480 00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:43,413 Speaker 4: coming years if he sticks around, there's all black jerseys. 481 00:23:43,413 --> 00:23:45,653 Speaker 2: Well, he's another one that can play fullback, wing and center. 482 00:23:46,213 --> 00:23:50,173 Speaker 4: And that's that's been from what's Craiden McMillan and Richard 483 00:23:50,173 --> 00:23:52,093 Speaker 4: what have done with the Steamers this year because we've 484 00:23:52,093 --> 00:23:56,573 Speaker 4: had so many outside backs with for Heir from the Hurricanes. 485 00:23:57,613 --> 00:24:01,733 Speaker 4: Who else we've had Bloody Nigel Yeah, he used to 486 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,253 Speaker 4: see there as well, and we've had sevens players galore, 487 00:24:04,293 --> 00:24:07,773 Speaker 4: Emony Leroy and just about fitting Cole Forbes another one. 488 00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:08,613 Speaker 2: Yeah. 489 00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:10,413 Speaker 4: So this is an esteemer's podcast. I'd love it to 490 00:24:10,413 --> 00:24:13,293 Speaker 4: be though, but yeah, it's exciting because that's what NPC 491 00:24:13,413 --> 00:24:15,213 Speaker 4: is for trialing it out sort of things, seeing what 492 00:24:15,213 --> 00:24:17,333 Speaker 4: they can do, and this is that next step for them, 493 00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:19,693 Speaker 4: and it's gonna be great to see how how Leuo 494 00:24:19,693 --> 00:24:20,973 Speaker 4: Okarta goes at third it is. 495 00:24:21,013 --> 00:24:23,013 Speaker 2: Indeed, you're a good band, producing Mark. Thank you very 496 00:24:23,093 --> 00:24:25,173 Speaker 2: much for joining us on at rge B direct, howored 497 00:24:25,173 --> 00:24:28,853 Speaker 2: by Habit Health. We're back next week of course, hopefully 498 00:24:28,893 --> 00:24:30,933 Speaker 2: Lim is with us as well. We'll see you next 499 00:24:30,973 --> 00:24:38,253 Speaker 2: time for more from News Talks ed B. 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