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Speaker 1: The government is going to make it easier for community

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Speaker 1: clubs to serve Booze at President at present, a lot

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Speaker 1: of sports clubs, working men's clubs, aresays, sell liquor through

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Speaker 1: a club license, which is a lot more restrictive than

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Speaker 1: the standard on license. Now Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee

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Speaker 1: says she's going to change that. She's going to allow

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Speaker 1: the clubs to apply for a non license. Lucy Waters

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Speaker 1: is chief executive of Clubs n Z and with us now,

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Speaker 1: Hi Lucy, hello, how are you? And well? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with the current license?

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Speaker 2: Their current license for a club license? It only allows

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Speaker 2: clubs to sell or supply alcohol to their members, guests

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Speaker 2: of members or affiliated members, so members from a club

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Speaker 2: where they've got a reciprocal arrangement in place. And what

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Speaker 2: we find is that most people just don't realize that

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Speaker 2: these restrictions exist. And he might have someone that decides

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Speaker 2: to pop into their local club, support a community event,

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Speaker 2: see what it's all about, only to discover that they

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Speaker 2: actually can't be served because they're not a member.

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Speaker 1: How long have these rules been in place?

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Speaker 2: Forever? But well before my time.

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Speaker 1: I have never been a member of an RSA and

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Speaker 1: yet I've had a number of drinks and number of RSAs.

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Speaker 1: So how's that worked?

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Speaker 2: That is a good question, because under the settings they

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Speaker 2: should only be serving alcohol to the members, guests and members.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, is it possible that I have come in

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Speaker 1: as a guest of a member?

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Speaker 2: Very very possible. So if you've ever gone into a

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Speaker 2: club and you've been with someone else and you've been

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Speaker 2: signed in, then that that would be That would be fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I see. Now, why is it that clubs have

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Speaker 1: had to have these licenses rather than on licenses.

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Speaker 2: They are prevented under the current Sale and Supply of

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Speaker 2: alcohol from holding.

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Speaker 1: An online Why why? Lucy? That is a good question.

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Speaker 1: Isn't life in this country full of very good questions

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Speaker 1: about the stupid rules that we have?

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is so that that's one of the questions

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Speaker 2: we've been asking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So once this rule changes, does that mean that

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Speaker 1: you will be able to go into, for example, the

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Speaker 1: Fishing club in Tyrua and have a drink if you're

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Speaker 1: not a member or not a guest of a member.

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Speaker 2: If they choose to. So, if this all goes through,

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Speaker 2: the clubs will have a choice over whether they retain

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Speaker 2: their club license or whether they move to an unlicense.

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Speaker 2: So if they move to an unlicense, then they'll be

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Speaker 2: able to open the doors and in the public will

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Speaker 2: be able to begin enjoying the club.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we might actually decide at the Fishing Club

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Speaker 1: in Tyrue that we don't want everybody coming in so

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Speaker 1: much get the rules. But Lucy, is this potentially part

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Speaker 1: of the problem with Ari says and why they're dying.

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Speaker 2: We do think that, and this is an issue that

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Speaker 2: we've raised, is that that quite often if someone's new

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Speaker 2: to an risa, they're wanting to come in and experience it,

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Speaker 2: they come into this list of rules that they need

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Speaker 2: to comply with. So if we can start removing some

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Speaker 2: of those barriers open the doors up, then we feel

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Speaker 2: that the risas and our other clubs will be able

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Speaker 2: to look at their options and start modernizing and becoming

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Speaker 2: community facilities.

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Speaker 1: He is hoping. Lucy, thank you very much. Appreciate appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's Lucy Water. It's Club's New Zealand chief executive. For

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